Songs for each boyfriend!

[nicolasjz]

Can we find every song about each boyfriend of Stevie's?

What I have so far:
- High School sweetheart: I've Loved and I've Lost
- Lindsey: Long Distance Winner, Frozen Love, Landslide, Crystal, Dreams, I Don't Want to Know, The Chain, Silver Springs, Angel, Kind of Woman, Gold and Braid, That's Alright, and so many more I can't list them all :D
- Don Henley: The Highwayman, Ooh My love
- Walter Egan: N/A
- JD Souther: N/A
- Derek Taylor: Beautiful Child
- Paul Fishkin: Sleeping Angel
- Mick: Sara (bits of it), Storms, If You Ever Did Believe (not sure about this, can someone confirm?), Beauty and the Beast, Watch Chain, 24 Karat Gold
- Hernan Rojas: Destiny Rules
- Not at all sure about this one: Glen Parrish: If Anyone Falls (heard it somewhere, need confirmation about this whole relationship)
- Jimmy Iovine: Straight Back, Jimmy Come Back
- Joe Walsh: Has Anyone Ever Written For You, Long Way to Go
- Rupert Hine: Rooms on Fire
- Dallas Taylor: For What It's Worth
- Guy much younger than she: there are a few lyrics 1990s-onwards that hint at that relationship but nothing obvious.

Walter Egan and JD Souther are pretty much the only ones who don't have a song that I can think of ~ what did they do to deserve this? :D

As a bonus, these guys are only rumored to have had a thing with Stevie:
- Tom Petty: If You Were My Love, That Made Me Stronger, Hard Advice
- Prince: Thousand Days

[ahafan02]

I always thought 'Thousand Days" was about Lindsey after he left the band shortly after the release of TITN.

[nicolasjz]

I always thought 'Thousand Days" was about Lindsey after he left the band shortly after the release of TITN.

Billboard, 18 April 1998

"'Thousand Days' was written about my non-relationship with Prince," says Nicks, who had earlier composed "Stand Back" with him - although she notes he's never called her back "to set up his payment on 50%" of the latter. "Days" recounts an abortive, all-night '80s recording session with him at his Minneapolis home during a Fleetwood Mac tour, climaxing with Nicks "smoking my pot - he didn't agree with my lifestyle - and going to sleep on Prince's floor in his kitchen. I like him, but we were just so different there was no possible meeting ground."

[redbird]

Is "Angel" really about Lindsey? I thought it was about Mick.

Parts of "Sara" relate to Don Henley also, don't they? The part about "when you build your house", and also the possibility that she's talking at the end about a baby she aborted that was fathered by Don.

Isn't "Smile At You" about someone known also? And does anyone have a clue about "Violet and Blue"?

[nicolasjz]

Is "Angel" really about Lindsey? I thought it was about Mick.

Parts of "Sara" relate to Don Henley also, don't they? The part about "when you build your house", and also the possibility that she's talking at the end about a baby she aborted that was fathered by Don.

Isn't "Smile At You" about someone known also? And does anyone have a clue about "Violet and Blue"?

I thought I had read an interview where Stevie said Angel was about Lindsey but I can't find it anywhere so maybe I'm getting it wrong. "When you were good, you were very, very good" screams Lindsey though. It's possible the song is about both Lindsey and Mick, and we know it's also about the legend of Branwen in the Mabinogion.

Re Sara, Stevie has contradicted herself on the meaning of the "when you build your house" line:
Us Magazine, July 1990: [On whether the line in the song Sara, 'When you build your house, I'll come by' is about Don Henley, whom she was dating at the time?] (laughs) That is true. He did . And I was in it before he finished it.

[B]Entertainment Weekly, July 2009
When you build your house” was about when you get your act together, then let me know, because until you get your act together, I really can’t be around you.”

Entertainment Weekly: Some people have said it’s about Don Henley, whom you dated around that time too…
“He wishes! If Don wants to think the ‘house’ was one of the 90 houses he built—and he did build house after beautiful house, and once they were done, he would move because he wasn’t interested in them anymore [laughs]… No. He is one of my best friends in the world. If anything happened to me, he would be there, always. But if someone said that, they’re so full of s—!”

But yes, the song definitely contains elements about the abortion of her and Don's baby.

About Violet and Blue, I don't recall Stevie ever talking about its meaning but some ledgies have speculated, and I think they have a point, that it was about Tom Petty and the rumours of an affair between the two.

[sue]

Loving this thread........Great idea.

[~*BellaDonna*~]

I'm gonna play the "Captin Obvious" card..... Dreams, of course, was written for Lindsey...

[Macfan4life]

How Still My Love is a very intense song. It was written around the time of the Mick affair but its very harsh and could be about Lindsey. The part "They say your not the man for me" appears to be about someone that is not a good fit for Stevie. Mick and Lindsey would fit that puzzle. The part " you make it easy in the still of the night" I always imagine could be about the Mick affair and how they would secretly meet in the late nights. The part "you don't forget me" is something like from Silver Springs of intense harshness towards a jilted ex-lover. That part could be about Lindsey. Anyone know more about the song?

Blue Denim is about Lindsey too.

[WatchChain]

Can we find every song about each boyfriend of Stevie's?

What I have so far:
- Derek Taylor: Beautiful Child
As a bonus, these guys are only rumored to have had a thing with Stevie:
- Tom Petty: If You Were My Love, That Made Me Stronger, Hard Advice
- Prince: Thousand Days
- Mike Campbell: For What It's Worth

I am at least somewhat familiar with ALL of Stevie's rumoured boyfriends that you named. However, can someone tell me who Derek Taylor is ? It sounds like an interesting story. Derek Taylor, anyone, anyone?

Also, I always thought that Tom Petty and Stevie were just friends. Is there documentation that the high priestess took into relationship territory with Tom?

[bombaysaffires]

there are sooooooo many boyfriends she's had that we don't know about at all, so it's always fun to watch people guess.

No one would ever have known or guessed about Derek Taylor had she not spilled the beans. Ever.

There's that younger man she talked about dating, the one who was a waiter and who had two young kids. Which songs are about him?

We do know that she dated Hernan Rojas towards the end of Tusk and went off with him to Chile for 6 weeks where she wrote Bella Donna so I'm betting some parts of that are about him. And Destiny Rules he has said he believes are about him

"Six weeks in a foreign country
How the time flew
I didn't speak the language
But somehow I knew
That that would be the only time
That we could be alone and foolish
We said we'd never come home"

Ken writes in his book about her dating one of the recording engineers during the Rumours time after she and LB split.

I wouldn't say no songs are about JD Souther, we just don't know if any are. (I always thought Belle Fleur was)

Which ones are about Rupert Hine?

I always thought When I See You Again was about Kim and the divorce, but who knows. There have to have been more songs about that relationship.

[nicolasjz]

I am at least somewhat familiar with ALL of Stevie's rumoured boyfriends that you named. However, can someone tell me who Derek Taylor is ? It sounds like an interesting story. Derek Taylor, anyone, anyone?

Also, I always thought that Tom Petty and Stevie were just friends. Is there documentation that the high priestess took into relationship territory with Tom?

Derek Taylor was the Beatles' road manager. He and Stevie had a very short affair in the summer of 1977 while he was still married. He got married in 1958, hence the "you fell in love when I was only 10" line in Beautiful Child.
During a Rumours Tour show in Los Angeles Stevie dedicated Landslide to him using the nickname "Beauiful Child."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcHIIu-w6FM

Stevie has always said she and Tom were only friends but there were lots of rumours in the early 1980s as well as during Tom's divorce in the 1990s. Personally I believe her. Her rapport with Tom always seemed brotherly-sisterly much more than romantic.

[StreetAngel86]

How Still My Love is a very intense song. It was written around the time of the Mick affair but its very harsh and could be about Lindsey. The part "They say your not the man for me" appears to be about someone that is not a good fit for Stevie. Mick and Lindsey would fit that puzzle. The part " you make it easy in the still of the night" I always imagine could be about the Mick affair and how they would secretly meet in the late nights. The part "you don't forget me" is something like from Silver Springs of intense harshness towards a jilted ex-lover. That part could be about Lindsey. Anyone know more about the song?

Blue Denim is about Lindsey too.


To me, HSML has always been about Lindsey
especially because of the "well you go YOUR way" lol :lol:

i also think Nothing Ever Changes is about him :D

[sue]

[QUOTE=nicolasjz;1183830]Derek Taylor was the Beatles' road manager. He and Stevie had a very short affair in the summer of 1977 while he was still married. He got married in 1958, hence the "you fell in love when I was only 10" line in Beautiful Child.
During a Rumours Tour show in Los Angeles Stevie dedicated Landslide to him using the nickname "Beauiful Child."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcHIIu-w6FM



Derek Taylor was a journalist who became The Beatles Press officer and Publicist at the request of Brian Epstein...Later he also worked for The Beach Boys in a similar capacity.

He worked for Warner Bros in the late 70's maybe he met Stevie then...

[nicolasjz]

[QUOTE=nicolasjz;1183830]Derek Taylor was the Beatles' road manager. He and Stevie had a very short affair in the summer of 1977 while he was still married. He got married in 1958, hence the "you fell in love when I was only 10" line in Beautiful Child.
During a Rumours Tour show in Los Angeles Stevie dedicated Landslide to him using the nickname "Beauiful Child."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcHIIu-w6FM



Derek Taylor was a journalist who became The Beatles Press officer and Publicist at the request of Brian Epstein...Later he also worked for The Beach Boys in a similar capacity.

He worked for Warner Bros in the late 70's maybe he met Stevie then...

Publicist, right. My bad.

[Christopher]

"Ooh My Love" was inspired by Stevie's relationship w/Don Henley. This became known when Sara Fleetwood divulged her old rehearsal tapes for the Street Angel tour to the fan community a few years ago. "Ooh My Love" was rehearsed in '94 and Stevie is heard on the tape recordings saying this is another song inspired by her relationship with Don.

"For What It's Worth" was inspired by Stevie's (then secret) relationship with Dallas Taylor (former drummer for Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young) whilst on the Street Angel tour.

[sue]

[QUOTE=sue;1183843]

Publicist, right. My bad.

I'm sure he did muck in and do Roadying (is that a word),...and all sorts of other stuff.....George later called him the 5th Beatle.

[nicolasjz]

"For What It's Worth" was inspired by Stevie's (then secret) relationship with Dallas Taylor (former drummer for Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young) whilst on the Street Angel tour.

Wow, I was way off the mark :D

[nicolasjz]

We do know that she dated Hernan Rojas towards the end of Tusk and went off with him to Chile for 6 weeks where she wrote Bella Donna so I'm betting some parts of that are about him. And Destiny Rules he has said he believes are about him

"Six weeks in a foreign country
How the time flew
I didn't speak the language
But somehow I knew
That that would be the only time
That we could be alone and foolish
We said we'd never come home"


Forgot about that one!

[WildHearted]

Dallas Taylor: "For What It's Worth"

[redbird]

Just listening to the songs, I thought HSML was about Mick ("they say you're not the man for me" doesn't fit LB as well imo) and, yeah, Nothing Ever Changes was Lindsey. But so many options.

"You Could Be The One" also about LB I'd have to think.

[DauphineMarie]

Kind of Woman - Lindsey
HSML - I think it's about Mick and Lindsey actually... Like how Stevie's choice affected her relationship with Lindsey
Outside the Rain - I would say Jimmy Iovine, but to me this song is so much more than about one person, so I'm not too sure.
Nothing Ever Changes - Definitely Lindsey
Beauty and the Beast - Mick 1000%
Priest of Nothing/HAEWAFY - Joe Walsh

Just to name a few

[Frankenstein]

For JD Souther, he was supposedly the guy "undoing the laces" in Sara.

[priestofnothing]

Can we find every song about each boyfriend of Stevie's?


- Not at all sure about this one: Glen Parrish: If Anyone Falls (heard it somewhere, need confirmation about this whole relationship)



I thought If Anyone Falls was about Waddy? Doesn't it say something like that in the Timespace liner notes?

[lilyfee]

I thought If Anyone Falls was about Waddy? Doesn't it say something like that in the Timespace liner notes?

I think she might mention this in the music video commentary for this song... Waddy inspired it at least!

Jimmy Iovine -- Straight Back and Violet & Blue

[michelej1]

Yes, she said that she and Waddy were talking and they said something like, "if anyone falls in love, it will be one of us. At least I hope so." And she indicated that it wasn't necessarily romantic, just old friends commiserating about their love lives.

Michele

[michelej1]

Stevie on IAF

"This is the first song that I wrote with Sandy. I've probably prayed for so many years that I'd find somebody I could write songs with, and I finally found her. She lives in Houston, and she's totally crazy. She's a real brilliant musician and what she does for me is she writes a song, goes in with a band and records it, sends me the track. Track sounds great. I go in my bathroom, put it on my stereo, plug in my other tape recorder, sing along, record it right there. I play it for everybody the next day, everybody goes crazy, and that's it. It's over."

[OK . This liner note sounds less platonic than the quote I was trying to find of hers about Waddy]


There was a time when I was falling out of one love and into another, when nothing else seemed to matter except this person. I adored him. He was everything I wanted to be: a real rock and roller and a lover of the Stones, small and frail sometimes, but in many ways the strongest person I have ever known. His word was law. I became him. He became me and no one dared intrude upon this union. He is no longer with me, but his spirit twin never leaves him. I think sometimes I liked being on stage just to watch him. It was music combined with love, combined with the fact that when Waddy was beside me, I felt completely safe. It is to my great sorrow that we are no longer on stage together, but it is to my great joy that he always seems to be with me, even after all this time.

TIMESPACE

"I wrote this song about Mr. Waddy Wachtel, who I have always felt was the twin that we all have somewhere. It is to my great sorrow that he is no longer with me, but it is to my great joy that I had him as long as I did, some people are simply irreplaceable."

[michelej1]

^Stevester, could you try not to make it sound like Waddy died?

Michele

[bombaysaffires]

Stevie on IAF

"This is the first song that I wrote with Sandy. I've probably prayed for so many years that I'd find somebody I could write songs with, and I finally found her. She lives in Houston, and she's totally crazy. She's a real brilliant musician and what she does for me is she writes a song, goes in with a band and records it, sends me the track. Track sounds great. I go in my bathroom, put it on my stereo, plug in my other tape recorder, sing along, record it right there. I play it for everybody the next day, everybody goes crazy, and that's it. It's over."

[OK . This liner note sounds less platonic than the quote I was trying to find of hers about Waddy]



TIMESPACE

"I wrote this song about Mr. Waddy Wachtel, who I have always felt was the twin that we all have somewhere. It is to my great sorrow that he is no longer with me, but it is to my great joy that I had him as long as I did, some people are simply irreplaceable."

Where did he go? He's STILL with her....:shrug:

[bombaysaffires]

Stevie on IAF

TIMESPACE

"I wrote this song about Mr. Waddy Wachtel, who I have always felt was the twin that we all have somewhere. It is to my great sorrow that he is no longer with me, but it is to my great joy that I had him as long as I did, some people are simply irreplaceable."

Haven't he and his wife been together for like forever??

[michelej1]

Haven't he and his wife been together for like forever??

I don't know if they were together back in 1991. Remember Annie had that daughter Shannon, before she met Waddy and Shannon was still a little girl around the time of Waddy's Q & A here in 2001. So, I can only guess he got together with Annie in the mid-nineties.

Michele

[bombaysaffires]

Stevie on IAF

"This is the first song that I wrote with Sandy. I've probably prayed for so many years that I'd find somebody I could write songs with, and I finally found her. She lives in Houston, and she's totally crazy. She's a real brilliant musician and what she does for me is she writes a song, goes in with a band and records it, sends me the track. Track sounds great. I go in my bathroom, put it on my stereo, plug in my other tape recorder, sing along, record it right there. I play it for everybody the next day, everybody goes crazy, and that's it. It's over."

[OK . This liner note sounds less platonic than the quote I was trying to find of hers about Waddy]


There was a time when I was falling out of one love and into another, when nothing else seemed to matter except this person. I adored him. He was everything I wanted to be: a real rock and roller and a lover of the Stones, small and frail sometimes, but in many ways the strongest person I have ever known. His word was law. I became him. He became me and no one dared intrude upon this union. He is no longer with me, but his spirit twin never leaves him. I think sometimes I liked being on stage just to watch him. It was music combined with love, combined with the fact that when Waddy was beside me, I felt completely safe. It is to my great sorrow that we are no longer on stage together, but it is to my great joy that he always seems to be with me, even after all this time.

TIMESPACE

"I wrote this song about Mr. Waddy Wachtel, who I have always felt was the twin that we all have somewhere. It is to my great sorrow that he is no longer with me, but it is to my great joy that I had him as long as I did, some people are simply irreplaceable."


So If Anyone Falls was on the Wild Heart album.... she was with Jimmy during Bella Donna and the recording of Mirage.... and then somewhere clearly before doing the WH album the song was written. So was she falling out of love with Jimmy and into love with Waddy? Oh wait, Kim was in there somewhere...

The line she says "his word was law"....she uses that exact line in Doing the Best That I Can:

It was one for you it was three for me
It was very nice it was everything
So here it is in little pieces
I just played the part I didn't win or lose
Maybe next time I'll think about how I'm feeling
"cause I'm doing the best that I can
And the whispered secrets go on and on
No one says anything to anyone
You watch after her and your word is law
She thought she was out there but nobody saw
I didn't win or lose I just threw the cards
But I paid a price for it



So is I'm Doing the Best That I Can about the relationship with Waddy? Are the "whispered secrets" people talking about her and Waddy since they "didn't dare intrude on this union"?

[Macfanforever]

Thanks nicolasjz for starting this thread. Wow and thanks for the info guys.I always wonder on some of these tunes were about who.I had some right and some wrong.

[TheWILDheart]

Where did he go? He's STILL with her....:shrug:

He wasn't in 91 though. He didn't tour with Stevie for OSOTM, Timespace, Street Angel or Enchanted and didn't return to Stevie's touring band until 2001.

[SpyNote]

Where did he go? He's STILL with her....:shrug:

Didn't they have a brief falling-out around that time? I vaguely remember her saying she had a hard time getting him to tour with her again.

[sarafield]

I am at least somewhat familiar with ALL of Stevie's rumoured boyfriends that you named. However, can someone tell me who Derek Taylor is ? It sounds like an interesting story. Derek Taylor, anyone, anyone?

Also, I always thought that Tom Petty and Stevie were just friends. Is there documentation that the high priestess took into relationship territory with Tom?

In the Tom Petty biography, Tom said something like, "We were never what you'd call 'an item,' but we had our moments."

[bombaysaffires]

In the Tom Petty biography, Tom said something like, "We were never what you'd call 'an item,' but we had our moments."

there was recent quote by someone (I don't think it was Dave Stewart, but I can't recall now who it was) who said that the relationship between Stevie, Jimmy and Tom was quite complicated and interesting..... not sure what that means.... 3-some??:shrug:

Edited to add: It WAS Dave Stewart:

" I had no idea of the complexity of the relationships among Jimmy, Stevie Nicks and Tom Petty at the time. But I was soon to find out more than I ever imagined."
http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/magazine-feature/6859098/dave-stewart-memoir-excerpt-stevie-nicks-fling-tom-petty-song-jimmy-iovine

Now I gotta get his book!