Glenn Frey passes away

[bombaysaffires]

So my phone has been pinging all day with news app updates about the passing of Eagles co founder Glenn Frey at age 67. :angel:

Bowie was 69.

The members of FM are at ages on either side of both of these guys.

I'm sure they are saddened by the loss of another one of their contemporaries, but I wonder if it makes them think more about their own mortality as it relates to getting projects (either band or solo) done sooner rather than later.

I know that may seem a bit selfish, as I and many others would really really love to get one more album out of this band, but I wonder if it makes them more motivated as well. :shrug:

[James89]

Omg, I'm really devastated. I only saw the Eagles documentary the other day and I was so blown away by what amazing musicians they all were. Also, Glenn did a UK interview not so long back with Joe and I thought they looked amazing.

A fantastic band that won't be the same. I'm so sad. I REALLY hope these great people we're losing will make the five members of FM realise that life is short and they are extremely lucky to not only be alive but have the enormous following they have so make music and do what you do best before it's too late!

RIP Glenn Frey. :(

[WildHearted]

Message from Stevie:

"I’m sure more words will come later. Seeing though my tears to this white paper is almost impossible right now. For now…just this…
Take it easy, Mr Frey~
As you fly~
Take it easy~
Stevie Nicks (Brokenhearted)"

[michelej1]

^Touching. I can't even believe it. I wonder if he died despite surgery or if surgical complications caused it. I always think of the Eagles hand in hand with FM. Michele

[KarmaContestant]

I almost feel bad for even saying this, but I hope the recent passing of Bowie, Frey, Cole and Haggarty really lights a fire under the asses of Fleetwood Mac, and especially Stevie Nicks.

In 10, 20 years from now, no one is going to care about the touring they're doing. Well, no one except those who went to see the shows. But the albums? The albums are their enduring legacy, forever.

And there aren't enough of them.

[SpyNote]

It's crazy that all these deaths are happening all at once (more or less). We're all getting older...

Don Henley's official statement:

“He was like a brother to me; we were family, and like most families, there was some dysfunction. But, the bond we forged 45 years ago was never broken, even during the 14 years that the Eagles were dissolved. We were two young men who made the pilgrimage to Los Angeles with the same dream: to make our mark in the music industry — and with perseverance, a deep love of music, our alliance with other great musicians and our manager, Irving Azoff, we built something that has lasted longer than anyone could have dreamed. But, Glenn was the one who started it all. He was the spark plug, the man with the plan. He had an encyclopedic knowledge of popular music and a work ethic that wouldn’t quit. He was funny, bullheaded, mercurial, generous, deeply talented and driven. He loved is wife and kids more than anything. We are all in a state of shock, disbelief and profound sorrow. We brought our two-year ‘History of the Eagles Tour’ to a triumphant close at the end of July and now he is gone. I’m not sure I believe in fate, but I know that crossing paths with Glenn Lewis Frey in 1970 changed my life forever, and it eventually had an impact on the lives of millions of other people all over the planet. It will be very strange going forward in a world without him in it. But, I will be grateful, every day, that he was in my life. Rest in peace, my brother. You did what you set out to do, and then some.”

[elle]

I almost feel bad for even saying this, but I hope the recent passing of Bowie, Frey, Cole and Haggarty really lights a fire under the asses of Fleetwood Mac, and especially Stevie Nicks.

also Mott the Hoople / Bowie drummer Dale Griffin at 67, today.

[MikeInNV]

^Touching. I can't even believe it. I wonder if he died despite surgery or if surgical complications caused it. I always think of the Eagles hand in hand with FM. Michele

This article says he had been in the hospital since October 27 and that he was scheduled for surgery but developed pneumonia and was never able to have it.

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/music/la-me-ln-eagles-founding-member-glenn-frey-dead-at-67-20160118-story.html

[Macfanforever]

Oh my god.I dont believe this.I'm speechless.

[bombaysaffires]

Message from Stevie:

"I’m sure more words will come later. Seeing though my tears to this white paper is almost impossible right now. For now…just this…
Take it easy, Mr Frey~
As you fly~
Take it easy~
Stevie Nicks (Brokenhearted)"

where was this posted?

[michelej1]

It's crazy that all these deaths are happening all at once (more or less). We're all getting older...

Don Henley's official statement:

“He was like a brother to me; we were family, and like most families, there was some dysfunction.

I was just laughing because they were recounting that point in the documentary where Glenn threatened to beat Don Felder up during a live performance. He told him that after the show was over he was going to get him and Don must not have thought he was kidding, because as soon as the gig was over he ran and got in his car and drove away as fast as he could.

No, you do love and hate each other at the same time. Michele

[michelej1]

This article says he had been in the hospital since October 27 and that he was scheduled for surgery but developed pneumonia and was never able to have it.

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/music/la-me-ln-eagles-founding-member-glenn-frey-dead-at-67-20160118-story.html

Man, when your immune system is down, you die of pneumonia or infection more often than you do of the original ailment. It's very scary as these people get older and more vulnerable.

Michele

[michelej1]

Stevie comment about Frey in 1981:

STEVIE NICKS: When I was going out with Don, it was five years ago and I was much less busy, Fleetwood Mac was much less popular, we were just beginning. When I was with Lindsey, we lived together and were famous. It was the opposite extreme. I’ll never forget the day I was up at Don’s house having dinner with him and his manager, Irving Azoff, who is now my manager five years later, and Glenn Frey of the Eagles walked in and looked at me and said, "Spoiled yet." Like no mention of Fleetwood Mac. I was not even in the league of a singer. I was nothing more than a girl. My claws went out and I wanted to get out of there.

HIGH TIMES: I don’t know him well, but that sounds typical of Glenn Frey.

STEVIE NICKS: He’s witchy! And I love Glenn, and that was a long time ago. That was my first taste of what it was like to be a happening girl rock and roll singer. Going out with a very famous man rock and roll singer and have people not relate to me like I even had a job. I went out with John David Souther for a while, who is very, very, very male chauvinistic and very sweet and cute and wonderful but very Texas, and I found when I was with him, I didn’t mention Fleetwood Mac ever. It didn’t help my status with the man to bring up anything I did, so I didn’t. And then you start saying, "But I work too. I’m happening. I write songs, but you aren’t giving me a break."

[crystalline_]

So my phone has been pinging all day with news app updates about the passing of Eagles co founder Glenn Frey at age 67. :angel:

Bowie was 69.

The members of FM are at ages on either side of both of these guys.

I'm sure they are saddened by the loss of another one of their contemporaries, but I wonder if it makes them think more about their own mortality as it relates to getting projects (either band or solo) done sooner rather than later.

I know that may seem a bit selfish, as I and many others would really really love to get one more album out of this band, but I wonder if it makes them more motivated as well. :shrug:

Seems a tad melodramatic, no? These people were fighting illness, not age. A 45 year old could get liver cancer (like Bowie) or pneumonia (like Glenn) similar to how a 90 year old can be the picture of health.

[michelej1]

Seems a tad melodramatic, no? These people were fighting illness, not age. A 45 year old could get liver cancer (like Bowie) or pneumonia (like Glenn) similar to how a 90 year old can be the picture of health.

Well, you can get it at any age, but there's no escaping the fact that it happens more frequently with age. Whether it's pneumonia or liver cancer or a fall, it's going to start happening to more and more of their contemporaries on a regular basis now.

Dennis Wilson drowning was a shock. Overdoses, car accidents, flukes took their friends away then. But now they have reached the age where losing a peer isn't a shock, it's just nature and instead of happening once every 2 years, it will be happening once a month. I mean at this point we'll be lucky to get out of January without someone else dropping dead who is connected to who they were.

Michele

[Macfanforever]

Cancer and other illnesses can kill at any age.I lost my sister at 56 with breast cancer in 2007.I lost my friend at 29 with a heart attach in his sleep in 1992.I just found out last week my ex -bosses son died in his sleep with sleep apnea and he was 45.

Its really sad that we are seeing a great generation of artists and band members are passing away at a young age.

RIP Glenn..................................

[elle]

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[StreetAngel86]

i don't like that all these 'legends' are dying this side of 60/that side of 70

as much as i'd like to believe Stevie is immortal
i think she's used up a LOT of her 9 lives
and that she's still here for a reason.

Bowie worked right up til the end because he knew what was coming

but i think FM in particular, especially after what happened to John should get their asses moving on something

music lives forever
but concerts can be forgotten
they def have another record in them :thumbsup:

where was this posted?

Stevie's twitter posted it

[bombaysaffires]

music lives forever
but concerts can be forgotten
they def have another record in them :thumbsup:



and ya can't take all that tour money with ya when you go......

(and if you leave a pile to your kids or god kids they'll all just be lazy arses and blow it doing nothing. Sting recently said he's giving it all away, his kids won't be getting any big wads of cash when he goes. I'm sure they're doing fine now but not when he goes)

[vivfox]

I mean at this point we'll be lucky to get out of January without someone else dropping dead who is connected to who they were.

News just came in that Dallas Taylor died yesterday. If I remember correctly, he was one of the inspirations for the song, Beautiful Child.

[SteveMacD]

News just came in that Dallas Taylor died yesterday. If I remember correctly, he was one of the inspirations for the song, Beautiful Child.
He died a year ago.

[vivfox]

He died a year ago.

Some stupid FB article posted it as if it just happened.Thank you for the correction.

[Macfanforever]

i don't like that all these 'legends' are dying this side of 60/that side of 70

as much as i'd like to believe Stevie is immortal
i think she's used up a LOT of her 9 lives
and that she's still here for a reason.

Bowie worked right up til the end because he knew what was coming

but i think FM in particular, especially after what happened to John should get their asses moving on something

music lives forever
but concerts can be forgotten
they def have another record in them :thumbsup:



Stevie's twitter posted it

We lost so many .It's so sad and nobody today can fill their shoes or maybe the last 20 years.

They dont make artists and bands like they use too.

[HomerMcvie]

Stevie comment about Frey in 1981:

STEVIE NICKS: When I was going out with Don, it was five years ago and I was much less busy, Fleetwood Mac was much less popular, we were just beginning. When I was with Lindsey, we lived together and were famous. It was the opposite extreme. I’ll never forget the day I was up at Don’s house having dinner with him and his manager, Irving Azoff, who is now my manager five years later, and Glenn Frey of the Eagles walked in and looked at me and said, "Spoiled yet." Like no mention of Fleetwood Mac. I was not even in the league of a singer. I was nothing more than a girl. My claws went out and I wanted to get out of there.

HIGH TIMES: I don’t know him well, but that sounds typical of Glenn Frey.

STEVIE NICKS: He’s witchy! And I love Glenn, and that was a long time ago. That was my first taste of what it was like to be a happening girl rock and roll singer. Going out with a very famous man rock and roll singer and have people not relate to me like I even had a job. I went out with John David Souther for a while, who is very, very, very male chauvinistic and very sweet and cute and wonderful but very Texas, and I found when I was with him, I didn’t mention Fleetwood Mac ever. It didn’t help my status with the man to bring up anything I did, so I didn’t. And then you start saying, "But I work too. I’m happening. I write songs, but you aren’t giving me a break."

Without sounding crass, a "youngin'" posted on FB earlier, that Stevie used to "bang" Frey. I wrote, "I'm almost certain that you're wrong, it was Henley and Walsh". Yet he insisted that she was doing Frey, too. Am I wrong? I've always tried to keep track of her...well, somewhat. There's no sexual history between SN and Frey, RIGHT????

[michelej1]

Bowie worked right up til the end because he knew what was coming



That Bowie exit was amazing. I mean, they were already going to do a tribute for him here in Echo Park just because of the new album release on his birthday. They didn't know he was sick when it was organized. He planned it that way and, obviously, it was important for him to leave fresh new art behind in his wake. People were talking about his new music just days before they had to mourn his legacy.

Michele

[Macfanforever]

Sorry but I just want to cross post this piece with Glenn and the girls inducting Linda Ronstadt into the hall a fame from the other Glenn Frey thread.



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Has anybody heard or read anything if Linda or her PR person made a statement on this. I feel for her.

[He's So Unusual]

Another legend gone

R.I.P.

[Wdm6789]

So sad. David Bowie and Glenn fry are two of my favorite musicians. Eagles are my other favorite band. The reality of it is, this is only going to keep happening. This makes me that much more grateful I got to see Christine.

[landslide95]

Really sad that Glenn is gone, what a great talent.

Not to sound rude, but was never a fan of Bowie, however I respect him as an artist. RIP.

[Missy]

It certainly feels like the end of an era. I hope that there are a few young and original artists who can keep creating something interesting in the future. But I don't know if they'll ever achieve the same 'legendary' status previous performers did.

as much as i'd like to believe Stevie is immortal
i think she's used up a LOT of her 9 lives
and that she's still here for a reason.

I can see Stevie moving into a 'mentoring' role. Well, she already does that. Even though she didn't have her own children, she seems like she has a maternal side and has become an inspiration for young performers.

[bombaysaffires]

Some stupid FB article posted it as if it just happened.Thank you for the correction.

yeah several places posted it on the anniversary of his death as if it just happened. A friend sent me this one this morning and before my coffee I totally fell for it-- it does say 1 year ago but also splashes 'Breaking News' across his photo..
http://hollywoodlife.com/2016/01/18/dallas-taylor-dead-crosby-stills-nash-young-drummer-illness-66/

For What It's Worth is the song she wrote for him. BC was for the Beatles guy.

[vivfox]

yeah several places posted it on the anniversary of his death as if it just happened. A friend sent me this one this morning and before my coffee I totally fell for it-- it does say 1 year ago but also splashes 'Breaking News' across his photo..
http://hollywoodlife.com/2016/01/18/dallas-taylor-dead-crosby-stills-nash-young-drummer-illness-66/

For What It's Worth is the song she wrote for him. BC was for the Beatles guy.

Thank you for the correction.

[vivfox]

I feel very lucky to have been born in 1962. The best music of last century occurred in my youth. At age 18 in 1980 I was lucky enough to see a triple bill of The Eagles, Heart & The Little River Band performing in the Yale Bowl all in their prime.

[Macfanforever]

I feel very lucky to have been born in 1962. The best music of last century occurred in my youth. At age 18 in 1980 I was lucky enough to see a triple bill of The Eagles, Heart & The Little River Band performing in the Yale Bowl all in their prime.

I agree 100 percent.Great era .I never got to see any of them.
at that time was probably seeing Kenny Rogers and other great true country artists and bands then.

[jbrownsjr]

I feel very lucky to have been born in 1962. The best music of last century occurred in my youth. At age 18 in 1980 I was lucky enough to see a triple bill of The Eagles, Heart & The Little River Band performing in the Yale Bowl all in their prime.

Agreed. I've seen so many amazing concerts. And for low amounts of money. I'm glad I'm old.

I saw Christine at a bar in Cleveland. One of the best shows I've ever seen in my life. Then I saw Lindsey at a bar in Cleveland and he sweated all over me when he shook his head. lol

[Steviegirl]

I feel very lucky to have been born in 1962. The best music of last century occurred in my youth. At age 18 in 1980 I was lucky enough to see a triple bill of The Eagles, Heart & The Little River Band performing in the Yale Bowl all in their prime.

Most definitely. We've been very lucky. Live music (and great albums) were accessible and affordable and all around us.

We have a wonderful local program on NPR that plays great new music by both new and older artists as well as a variety of other cool things. They did a beautiful tribute to David Bowie, and last night, they announced Glenn Frey's passing and played a few of his songs. The dj then said, as sad as it is, that those of us who were lucky enough to grow up in that glorious heyday will probably get our share of heartbreaking news in the coming months. I realize it's possible that everyone will live into their late 90s, and I hope they do, but we all really did have a lot of GREAT singers and musicians in our lives, and it's very much like a huge extended family, so it's really painful when we get this news.

[rubylounge]

So sad to hear that Glenn Frey passed away. Always loved him and The Eagles. I regret not ever seeing them live when they were in LA at The Forum in 2014.
Another one of Stevie's ~"Poet, Priest and Legend"~ Rest in Peace Glenn. :angel:

[Aurora]

These are people .....Humans they have given & given....
Decades maybe now it's time for them to give......
Time , a precious commodity......to themselves
Friends, family.......
They have Just given a world wide tour......
Do You not think maybe they deserve a vacation
To read to relax to enjoy their. Time with things& people
That come second to the recording, the touring.
It takes more than you know out of them.
They are all young at heart.....
All have other dreams/projects on the back burner......
While they are able ... They should now be as selfish as they want with their Time......
It belongs to them.....
They have enjoyed loved succedded at what they set out to do...yet now ....maybe just maybe ......
They have other gifts other dreams to pursue......
I hate Hearing all this pushing to get them to record.....if they really really want that , it will happen.
Otherwise be grateful for all these decades & that they are all with us & still preforming.
That itself is Amazing!

[vivfox]

Then I saw Lindsey at a bar in Cleveland and he sweated all over me when he shook his head. lol

Let me guess, you never took another shower again.:laugh::xoxo:

[jbrownsjr]

Let me guess, you never took another shower again.:laugh::xoxo:

I wasn't gay yet.. wink wink

[David]

Well, you can get it at any age, but there's no escaping the fact that it happens more frequently with age. Whether it's pneumonia or liver cancer or a fall, it's going to start happening to more and more of their contemporaries on a regular basis now.
Was Frey in the hospital for treatment for colitis? Did I read that somewhere last week? If so, he must have had colitis issues for decades. Remember the Get Tough on Toxics concert in Long Beach in 1986? It was an Eagles reunion of sorts: Glenn couldn't attend because he was in the hospital with a colitis problem, so he was beamed in live via video.

[michelej1]

Was Frey in the hospital for treatment for colitis? Did I read that somewhere last week? If so, he must have had colitis issues for decades. Remember the Get Tough on Toxics concert in Long Beach in 1986? It was an Eagles reunion of sorts: Glenn couldn't attend because he was in the hospital with a colitis problem, so he was beamed in live via video.

Yes, they said colitis with ulcers and pneumonia.

Michele

[MikeInNV]

Yes, they said colitis with ulcers and pneumonia.

Michele

Also rheumatoid arthritis, and apparently some of the medications used to treat arthritis and colitis have immune-suppressing effects, making pneumonia more difficult to fend off and treat. Terrible combination.

[Macfanforever]

I dont know if this was posted here.The freaking side effects will kill you.

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http://radio.com/2016/01/21/glenn-frey-cause-of-death/


Eagles Manager Claims Glenn Frey’s Death was Caused by Arthritis Medication

“He died from complications of ulcer and colitis after being treated with drugs for his rheumatoid arthritis which he had for over 15 years.” January 21, 2016 6:32 PM

By Jeff Cornell

Irving Azoff, longtime manager of The Eagles has revealed Glenn Frey‘s death was caused in part by medications he took to fight rheumatoid arthritis. The iconic singer and songwriter passed away at the age of 67 on Monday (Jan. 18), due to “complications from rheumatoid arthritis, acute ulcerative colitis and pneumonia.”

Azoff told TheWrap that the medications prescribed to Frey can lead to “disaster.” “The colitis and pneumonia were side effects from all the meds,” he said. “He died from complications of ulcer and colitis after being treated with drugs for his rheumatoid arthritis which he had for over 15 years.”


TheWrap reports that the medications for rheumatoid arthritis or ulcerative colitis can compromise the immune system’s ability to fight off pneumonia.

Glenn Frey is best known for co-writing some of The Eagles’ biggest songs including “Taking It Easy,” “Heartache Tonight” and “New Kid in Town,” as well as solo hits like “The Heat is On” and “Smuggler’s Blues.” .

[Wdm6789]

I feel very lucky to have been born in 1962. The best music of last century occurred in my youth. At age 18 in 1980 I was lucky enough to see a triple bill of The Eagles, Heart & The Little River Band performing in the Yale Bowl all in their prime.


That must have been so amazing. I'm so jealous of those of you that got to experience this music in it's prime, when it was the current music. I'm in my late 20s and I do love being a 90s kid, but I often wish I got to experience youth in the 70s and 80s, you guys had the best music. Today's music is garbage.

[Macfan4life]

Also rheumatoid arthritis, and apparently some of the medications used to treat arthritis and colitis have immune-suppressing effects, making pneumonia more difficult to fend off and treat. Terrible combination.
Yes this is horrible. It was kept secret but Glen was in the hospital since November. The side effects of this arthritis medicine killed him. It caused all kinds of complications. Just makes you so angry.
My mother was one diabetes medicine that they found out years later destroyed the heart. Sometimes the medicine for the disease kills you faster than the disease.

[Macfan4life]

Agreed. I've seen so many amazing concerts. And for low amounts of money. I'm glad I'm old.

I saw Christine at a bar in Cleveland. One of the best shows I've ever seen in my life. Then I saw Lindsey at a bar in Cleveland and he sweated all over me when he shook his head. lol
Do you mean Christine's 1984 solo tour?
I agree...it was one of the best concerts my entire life. Gosh I wish I could relive that experience. Me and my friends were so close that Eddy Quintela winked at us when he was playing keyboards :eek:

[Macfanforever]

That must have been so amazing. I'm so jealous of those of you that got to experience this music in it's prime, when it was the current music. I'm in my late 20s and I do love being a 90s kid, but I often wish I got to experience youth in the 70s and 80s, you guys had the best music. Today's music is garbage.


Agree 100 percent.I'm so glad reading this from some of the 20 somethings .My niece and nephews are in their 20's and enjoy the classic stuff.They cant stand the currents.

Thanks to autotune and other electronic computer gadgetry in the studio or on stage .It ruined a generation or two of youth which could have potential with the right training in voice and writing skills .They could stick out.

The Buckingham/Nicks school of voice and writing will be a good place to start.LOL....

I cant see any artists or bands of today sticking out with longevity like the Eagles and of course FM in 20 plus years.Or I should say a very few currents will stick out and not to condemn them all.

[HomerMcvie]

Today's music is garbage.

It really is true. At least 90% of today's music is CRAP.

The 60's were important, because there was so much innovation happening in the music. The 80's were okay, BUT, the 70's were the decade that American Music really hit it's stride. IMO, the 70's was as good as we'll ever get.

[elle]

It really is true. At least 90% of today's music is CRAP.

The 60's were important, because there was so much innovation happening in the music. The 80's were okay, BUT, the 70's were the decade that American Music really hit it's stride. IMO, the 70's was as good as we'll ever get.

while i think there's great music out there now the same as before, it's much more dispersed and harder to catch on, probably.

here's Bowie being asked about Britney and NSYNC, listing new groups at the time that were kinda underground and how they are not given enough chance to bubble up on the surface i guess since music on the radio is crap (that was 2002). of course, David Bowie pushed and helped groups like Arcade Fire (probably before LB ever heard of them):
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[Macfanforever]

while i think there's great music out there now the same as before, it's much more dispersed and harder to catch on, probably.

here's Bowie being asked about Britney and NSYNC, listing new groups at the time that were kinda underground and how they are not given enough chance to bubble up on the surface i guess since music on the radio is crap (that was 2002). of course, David Bowie pushed and helped groups like Arcade Fire (probably before LB ever heard of them):
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I cant catch on with the new stuff .I just lost interest .Its just a mix bag .Rock is boring ,R&B in now rap,country is not country.

Radio is the big problem They only play the crap and leave the good stuff aside.Thank goodness for the college stations and Youtube and some internet stations .They play the good stuff.

1990's was the start of the decline of interest.It really nose dive in the 2000's for me.

[HomerMcvie]

1990's was the start of the decline of interest.It really nose dive in the 2000's for me.

It's so funny that you say that. Because circa 1990, I was still listening to rock, or TRYING to! Then, I went out and bought Nirvana's Nevermind, and Pearl Jam's Ten.

...And I TRIED to like them both. I really did. For MONTHS. I couldn't. I HATED THEM BOTH EQUALLY!!! If "this" is what rock had become, I was over it. And it was because of both of those albums, that I began listening to country. My beloved FM and Eagles weren't doing sh*t, and this CRAP is what I was left with??? I had to walk down a different avenue, and I did for quite a few years. At least until FM and The Eagles got back together.

[FuzzyPlum]

It's so funny that you say that. Because circa 1990, I was still listening to rock, or TRYING to! Then, I went out and bought Nirvana's Nevermind, and Pearl Jam's Ten.

...And I TRIED to like them both. I really did. For MONTHS. I couldn't. I HATED THEM BOTH EQUALLY!!! If "this" is what rock had become, I was over it. And it was because of both of those albums, that I began listening to country. My beloved FM and Eagles weren't doing sh*t, and this CRAP is what I was left with??? I had to walk down a different avenue, and I did for quite a few years. At least until FM and The Eagles got back together.

Perhaps you should revisit Peal Jam and Nirvana. Brilliant, hard hitting and emotion-filled rock. Ahhh.... those were the days. And from roughly that time period I'd recommend 'The Bends' by Radiohead. They really don't make (much) rock like that anymore- though Arctic Monkeys and a few other bands are knocking around today. Simon Cowell and the likes have a lot to answer for.'

[FuzzyPlum]

Perhaps you should revisit Peal Jam and Nirvana. Brilliant, hard hitting and emotion-filled rock. Ahhh.... those were the days. And from roughly that time period I'd recommend 'The Bends' by Radiohead. They really don't make (much) rock like that anymore- though Arctic Monkeys and a few other bands are knocking around today. Simon Cowell and the likes have a lot to answer for.'

PS
I'd really recommend looking up a live performance on YouTube of a Pearl Jam song called Yellow Ledbetter (which they normally close their show with) that's what rock & roll is all about. (and they change the lyrics that are song on a regular basis).

[Wdm6789]

It really is true. At least 90% of today's music is CRAP.

The 60's were important, because there was so much innovation happening in the music. The 80's were okay, BUT, the 70's were the decade that American Music really hit it's stride. IMO, the 70's was as good as we'll ever get.


Totally agree, 70s was the best decade for music.

[estranged4life]

http://www.theverge.com/2016/1/22/10816404/2015-album-sales-trends-vinyl-catalog-streaming

2015 may have been a good year for the music industry, but it wasn't a great year for music released in 2015. For the first time since Nielsen began tracking music sales in the US, catalog albums (an industry term for anything released over 18 months ago) outsold new releases.

There are a number of factors that add up to catalog albums taking the sales crown. Music streaming was up 92 percent from 2014 and physical album sales for new releases dropped 14 percent, while catalog album sales only decreased by 2 percent.

Add in the revival of vinyl records to that — 12 million units were sold in the format, with records from Pink Floyd, The Beatles, and Miles Davis making up three of the five best-selling vinyl albums — and catalog albums had the juice to top new releases, despite Adele selling 7.4 million units of 25 in 2015. (And if you're thinking older people are carrying the vinyl revolution, think again; Taylor Swift's 1989 was the second biggest vinyl album of 2015.)

Catalog music is also dominating music streaming as well, with new releases only making up 30 percent of audio and video streaming volume. 2015 may have just been a bad year for new music from the biggest stars, with no albums from Beyoncé, Taylor Swift, Rihanna, Kanye West, and Frank Ocean (Frank, where are you????) or everyone could have just been playing 21 on repeat waiting for Adele to finally release her new record. Either way, America wasn't really in love with what 2015 had to offer.

New albums still have a slight lead when it comes to digital sales, and if the numbers hold steady throughout 2016, it can maintain that lead. But it's clear the immediate future of music consumption may be led by catalog releases as more and more people embrace streaming as a viable music source and vinyl sales continue to grow.

[HomerMcvie]

Perhaps you should revisit Peal Jam and Nirvana. Brilliant, hard hitting and emotion-filled rock. Ahhh.... those were the days. And from roughly that time period I'd recommend 'The Bends' by Radiohead. They really don't make (much) rock like that anymore- though Arctic Monkeys and a few other bands are knocking around today. Simon Cowell and the likes have a lot to answer for.'

Honestly, it's the "singing" I can't stand. There's no melody. There's no harmony. WHY do these guys keep YELLING at me?

If there's no melody or harmony, I wanna punch someone...

[FuzzyPlum]

Honestly, it's the "singing" I can't stand. There's no melody. There's no harmony. WHY do these guys keep YELLING at me?

If there's no melody or harmony, I wanna punch someone...


Oh, but there really is so much melody and harmony, there really, really is.

try 'Creep' by Radiohead;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EauYsKAK5Zc

or 'Daughter' by Pearl Jam;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIJwXgNdWbI

or 'All apologies' by Nirvana;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LFVQpDKHk4

[vivfox]

Oh, but there really is so much melody and harmony, there really, really is.

try 'Creep' by Radiohead;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EauYsKAK5Zc

or 'All apologies' by Nirvana;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LFVQpDKHk4

Two great songs. I never ignore modern music. I love the radio and am constantly turning the dial to EVERY station when I am in the car. There are plenty of great new songs to enjoy. I'd hate to be stuck in the past musically.

[FuzzyPlum]

Two great songs. I never ignore modern music. I love the radio and am constantly turning the dial to EVERY station when I am in the car. There are plenty of great new songs to enjoy. I'd hate to be stuck in the past musically.

Ha, modern music. To think these are more than twenty years old.
I used to love Pearl Jam (and Nirvana, Smashing Pumkins etc) as a teenager and back then they used to be super-cool grungers with their long hair, cut-off jeans and lumber jack shirts. You see them today and they're still great but they're grown-up respectable parents with sensible haircuts and tidy clothes.

[Macfanforever]

I enjoys these tunes.


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[elle]

Ha, modern music. To think these are more than twenty years old.
I used to love Pearl Jam (and Nirvana, Smashing Pumkins etc) as a teenager and back then they used to be super-cool grungers with their long hair, cut-off jeans and lumber jack shirts. You see them today and they're still great but they're grown-up respectable parents with sensible haircuts and tidy clothes.

also Soundgarden and STP (however much hipsters of the time were apparently spitting on STP but i loved their songs and they were great in concert).

many of those from the 90s who survived are ageing nicely and figured out how to still stay relevant and making new music. catching Chris Cornell when he does solo acoustic tours is a special treat - his shows make it very clear why live shows are worth it as opposed to just listening to the recordings, and of course his is still one of the best voices in rock!

[elle]

Honestly, it's the "singing" I can't stand. There's no melody. There's no harmony. WHY do these guys keep YELLING at me?

If there's no melody or harmony, I wanna punch someone...

lol no wonder you don't like Nicks much! :p

seriously though, so many of the grunge era songs have plenty of melody. that said, hey what do i know, i like LB, and while he is a good example of melodic rock he also loves yelling and screaming and i enjoy that too! :cool: :thumbsup:

of course, one cannot usually understand a word of what Vedder's singing. ;)

[FuzzyPlum]

of course, one cannot usually understand a word of what Vedder's singing. ;)

How dare you.
(apologies for hijacking this Glenn Frey thread)

Cornell has a great voice- You Know My Name is one of the best Bond songs ever. However, I'd personally take Eddie Vedders voice any day.

How could you not understand these;

a bit of Elvis;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eeoQEsekmw

a bit of Dylan/Jimi;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHBSvpzI7Tw
(warning: some shouting).

How can anyone not love those?

Back on topic:
Though I appreciate the Eagles and respect their songwriting skills, I can't say I've ever been a big, big fan. Mainy because I dont find there to be enough angst/grit in their music. I've only ever been able to listen to them in short doses- usually in the car on a hot, sunny day.
Nevertheless Glenn's passing is a real shock- they are a band I've never seen but would have liked to have done (just to say I've seen them as they are one of the truly iconic bands). Its a shame to hear he suffered so much pain. I know he had a pretty damned good life though.

[SisterNightroad]

It's so funny that you say that. Because circa 1990, I was still listening to rock, or TRYING to! Then, I went out and bought Nirvana's Nevermind, and Pearl Jam's Ten.

...And I TRIED to like them both. I really did. For MONTHS. I couldn't. I HATED THEM BOTH EQUALLY!!! If "this" is what rock had become, I was over it. And it was because of both of those albums, that I began listening to country. My beloved FM and Eagles weren't doing sh*t, and this CRAP is what I was left with??? I had to walk down a different avenue, and I did for quite a few years. At least until FM and The Eagles got back together.
Couldn't stand even Smashing Pumpkins?
It was also the time of the spreading of heavy metal.

[elle]

extending the apologies below...
How dare you.
(apologies for hijacking this Glenn Frey thread)

Cornell has a great voice- You Know My Name is one of the best Bond songs ever. However, I'd personally take Eddie Vedders voice any day.

How could you not understand these;

a bit of Elvis;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eeoQEsekmw

a bit of Dylan/Jimi;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHBSvpzI7Tw
(warning: some shouting).

How can anyone not love those?


oh i love Eddie! that doesn't mean i can understand every word he's singing (or even the whole strings of words lol).

i love that they do covers. i was at a PJ show the day Lou Reed died, and they did several things to honor him, including a cover of his I'm Waiting for the Man. it was great and so utterly appropriate.

[Macfanforever]

Me too with apologies of hijacking .

I saw this piece on ET on Glenn the other day.

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[Missy]

I don't know all of their work but some songs I still like very much. Especially those cowritten by Frey. My 15 year old of course is always playing Hotel California on his guitar.

I cannot believe some of the negative articles being written about the band while there are glowing tributes to Bowie. I'm a big Bowie fan but there were artistic mistakes he made in his career, songs and albums that badly misfired. Every long term artist has those moments.

Many grunge music artists however were closet fans of Bowie and Fleetwood Mac. I believe that helped them survive the 90s cultural shifts. Have to admit that's how I probably became aware if them, because I missed their first phase.

[elle]

Many grunge music artists however were closet fans of Bowie and Fleetwood Mac. I believe that helped them survive the 90s cultural shifts. Have to admit that's how I probably became aware if them, because I missed their first phase.

i had to laugh at your use of the word closet. you mean Nirvana covering in 1993, at the top of their fame and influence, a 1970 Bowie song is defined as a "closet fan"?

even Trent Reznor grew up on Bowie. (not grunge but 90s, and recorded and toured with Bowie towards the end of 90s, which of course most NIN fans didn't exactly appreciate. ;) )

and then of course, Pumpkins and Hole covers of FM songs.

[elle]

i had to laugh at your use of the word closet. you mean Nirvana covering in 1993, at the top of their fame and influence, a 1970 Bowie song is defined as a "closet fan"?

even Trent Reznor grew up on Bowie. (not grunge but 90s, and recorded and toured with Bowie towards the end of 90s, which of course most NIN fans didn't exactly appreciate. ;) )

and then of course, Pumpkins and Hole covers of FM songs.

btw really nice write-up from Trent on Bowie in RS commemorative issue:
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/trent-reznor-recalls-how-david-bowie-helped-him-get-sober-20160126?page=2

about the Eagles, i think i read that in some article somewhere recently, how grunge / 90s rockers kinda brought back FM (well and there was Bill Clinton!) from the laughing stock they became at the end of the 80s (I'd rather jack and all that) but that renewed appreciation never happened in that way for the Eagles.

[Missy]

Though it probably wasn't cool at first, I think over time it became more acceptable to like FM or Bowie. Courtney Love, Smashing Pumpkins, Red Hot Chili Peppers - big fans of Fleetwood Mac.

I remember that godawful song 'I'd Rather Jack (than Fleetwood Mac)'. Was there ever anything worse than Stock Aitken and Waterman? But it seemed like most of the top ten were songs by them at one point - in Australia anyway. There's a lot of nostalgia about the 80s now, but not all of it was that good. I was in my teens but listening to a lot of 60s and 70s music instead.

Of course Stevie was around in the 80s but going through her Klonopin phase. After Bowie and Jagger did 'Dancing In The Streets' - well it seemed like it couldn't get any worse. But let's face it if you have a career for 30-40 years, you're not always going to get it right.

I should have been more of a grunge fan but wasn't really, except for that which was more tuneful and melodic. I will listen to any genre if it has a good melody and lyrics. Doesn't matter if it's Frank Sinatra or Black Sabbath. But if I had to pick a specific era I would still say 1970s were the best.