Lincoln,Nebraska

[teedeerocks]

Now didn't Stevie promise the audience a repeat whole show,start to finish,when Mick got sick earlier in the year? Doesn't look like their gonna get it.I bet they're pissed,even now.Do you think this will leave a bitter taste in Lincoln's fans mouthes?Speaking of mouthes - Stevie,open mouth,insert booted foot.

[Macfanforever]

Thats a good question.They might have issues and fuss on lugging their gear to do a makeup show.It took awhile to re-tour Aussie and NZ got canceled due to John's condition.

[iamnotafraid]

What's up with Lincoln, Nebraska?

First Lindsey and then the Mac.

They just can't catch a break.

I guess the stars are crazy.

[Macfan4life]

If you are a Mac fan and went to the concert in Lincoln, Nebraska.... ask yourself this question. Would it be better for the show to have been cancelled all together if Mick decided not to play? Or was it better to get 65 minutes of Fleetwood Mac live?

If I was at the show of course I would be disappointed. But I would be thankful I got to see half a show. It would have been easy to just cancel and move on. Fleetwood Mac did the unthinkable and perform 2 songs while their drummer and founding member was incapacitated backstage. Its really amazing. No band wants to look amateurish or foolish with spontaneously playing songs without key members. But they did it for one song.
I think Stevie's remarks were meant as an apology. I think it would be standard language for any situation like this.
Fleetwood Mac is famous for starting tours in the Midwest. I would not be surprised to see Lincoln in the next tour early on.

[estranged4life]

Now didn't Stevie promise the audience a repeat whole show,start to finish,when Mick got sick earlier in the year? Doesn't look like their gonna get it.I bet they're pissed,even now.Do you think this will leave a bitter taste in Lincoln's fans mouthes?Speaking of mouthes - Stevie,open mouth,insert booted foot.

a lot of bands say "we will be back to make up a show" just to calm the audience...so I usually cut the artist some slack in that regard since **** happens.

[Macfanforever]

Yea.I agree .They all say .We'll be back here next year". Nobody knows what the future holds.They probably swing by in 2017.

Did they offer a partial refund for the people that were there.That would be the right thing to do.Its BS if they didn't.Somebody should look into this.Also It would be good to let the fans hold their tix stubs from the show for a discount for their next show or better yet for another artist at the same venue.

[iamnotafraid]

...was it better to get 65 minutes of Fleetwood Mac live?

Fleetwood Mac did the unthinkable and perform 2 songs while their drummer and founding member was incapacitated backstage.

Unless Mick's life was in danger, I think the rest of
the band could have come up with something to
extend the show past 65 minutes. In fact this could
have been the show to be at had they chosen to
take a risk and continue.

USA TODAY CONCERT REVIEW, LINCOLN, NEBRASKA...
Last night's Fleetwood Mac Concert took a turn for the better
when Lindsey Buckingham walked over to bandmate Stevie
Nicks. The two could be heard arguing as a stunned audience
witnessed Mr. Buckingham's legendary temper. According to
eyewitnesses Ms. Nicks wanted to end the show as one of the
founding members of the group Mick Fleetwood (drummer) was
incapacitated (tacos?) half way through the set. Lindsey pulled
Stevie's in ear monitors off and as Christine McVie approached
Lindsey took his guitar and smashed the teleprompter Stevie had
relied on all night.

That must have worked. Because the band finished the set with
the most inspired versions of...

[Macfan4life]

Unless Mick's life was in danger, I think the rest of
the band could have come up with something to
extend the show past 65 minutes. In fact this could
have been the show to be at had they chosen to
take a risk and continue.

USA TODAY CONCERT REVIEW, LINCOLN, NEBRASKA...
Last night's Fleetwood Mac Concert took a turn for the better
when Lindsey Buckingham walked over to bandmate Stevie
Nicks. The two could be heard arguing as a stunned audience
witnessed Mr. Buckingham's legendary temper. According to
eyewitnesses Ms. Nicks wanted to end the show as one of the
founding members of the group Mick Fleetwood (drummer) was
incapacitated (tacos?) half way through the set. Lindsey pulled
Stevie's in ear monitors off and as Christine McVie approached
Lindsey took his guitar and smashed the teleprompter Stevie had
relied on all night.

That must have worked. Because the band finished the set with
the most inspired versions of...
Name any concert of any group where a member leaves the stage incapacitated and continues to play without them. How do you perform without a drummer? Even if Stevie got sick it would be disrespectful to the fans and the group to go on like nothing is happening.
Fleetwood Mac is the only band I know of that had one of their roadies fill in for the song he knows and plays during a sound check. He does a great job but still flubs the song and missed the beat about midway. Fleetwood Mac is a professional band. They are not going to play botched songs. They are also not going to play songs they have not practiced for the tour. Someone even wrote they should have played landslide again. Now isn't that silly? How about a puppet show? Charades? :eek:
The Rolling Stones would not perform if Charlie Watts was ill. The Eagles were not perform if Don Henley was ill. Not sure why FM should be held to a different standard.

[aleuzzi]

What's up with Lincoln, Nebraska?

First Lindsey and then the Mac.

They just can't catch a break.

I guess the stars are crazy.

And Danny Kirwan's meltdown!

[olive]

Name any concert of any group where a member leaves the stage incapacitated and continues to play without them. How do you perform without a drummer? Even if Stevie got sick it would be disrespectful to the fans and the group to go on like nothing is happening.
Fleetwood Mac is the only band I know of that had one of their roadies fill in for the song he knows and plays during a sound check. He does a great job but still flubs the song and missed the beat about midway. Fleetwood Mac is a professional band. They are not going to play botched songs. They are also not going to play songs they have not practiced for the tour. Someone even wrote they should have played landslide again. Now isn't that silly? How about a puppet show? Charades? :eek:
The Rolling Stones would not perform if Charlie Watts was ill. The Eagles were not perform if Don Henley was ill. Not sure why FM should be held to a different standard.


KISS did it no Paul Stanley , the lead singer and they pulled it off

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/kiss-performing-without-paul-stanley-first-video-footage-posted-online/

[jbrownsjr]

As soon as the show ends, the act stops between these two... or in this case... before the show eneded..


USA TODAY CONCERT REVIEW, LINCOLN, NEBRASKA...
Last night's Fleetwood Mac Concert took a turn for the better
when Lindsey Buckingham walked over to bandmate Stevie
Nicks. The two could be heard arguing as a stunned audience
witnessed Mr. Buckingham's legendary temper. According to
eyewitnesses Ms. Nicks wanted to end the show as one of the
founding members of the group Mick Fleetwood (drummer) was
incapacitated (tacos?) half way through the set. Lindsey pulled
Stevie's in ear monitors off and as Christine McVie approached
Lindsey took his guitar and smashed the teleprompter Stevie had
relied on all night.

That must have worked. Because the band finished the set with
the most inspired versions of... GO YOUR OWN WAY!!!

[FuzzyPlum]

As soon as the show ends, the act stops between these two... or in this case... before the show eneded..


USA TODAY CONCERT REVIEW, LINCOLN, NEBRASKA...
Last night's Fleetwood Mac Concert took a turn for the better
when Lindsey Buckingham walked over to bandmate Stevie
Nicks. The two could be heard arguing as a stunned audience
witnessed Mr. Buckingham's legendary temper. According to
eyewitnesses Ms. Nicks wanted to end the show as one of the
founding members of the group Mick Fleetwood (drummer) was
incapacitated (tacos?) half way through the set. Lindsey pulled
Stevie's in ear monitors off and as Christine McVie approached
Lindsey took his guitar and smashed the teleprompter Stevie had
relied on all night.

That must have worked. Because the band finished the set with
the most inspired versions of... GO YOUR OWN WAY!!!


How things can so easily be exaggerated. I dont recall having the feeling there was any bad blood between Stevie and Lindsey that night. Their 'arguing' was, I'm sure just frantic discussions because they just didnt know what to do. Did anyone see him 'pull Stevie's in-ear monitors off'? I bet he just took them out. If that happened then there'd definately be film of it somewhere.

That said, they should have strung it along a bit more. They could have played a couple more songs. No chance they'll be back there in a hurry.

[vivfox]

How things can so easily be exaggerated. I dont recall having the feeling there was any bad blood between Stevie and Lindsey that night. Their 'arguing' was, I'm sure just frantic discussions because they just didnt know what to do. Did anyone see him 'pull Stevie's in-ear monitors off'?

That person was having fun. There was no such article published. It is a joke.:laugh:

[Macfanforever]

It would be strange to hear FM drumless on stage.Without Mick It would be odd.

I guess they called it a game like they do with baseball when they have mid game rain outs.65 minute is better then nothing like pulling out two hours before the show starts while fans are traveling from 100 of miles away from the venue and find out the the show was canceled last minute.I've been through that.

They could get away having Brett fill in for Chris when her hand was bothering her.She should have no issues on just singing her songs without playing them.

Mick is a trooper .He tried his best to do the 65 minutes before he could not go on.I've done that by hanging on being sick at the job.The boss was happy but the co-workers were not.

I'm glad that none of the rest of the band catch what Mick had that night.It would be more cancellations down the line.

[FuzzyPlum]

That person was having fun. There was no such article published. It is a joke.:laugh:

Doh.
I feel a bit silly :shrug:

[jbrownsjr]

How things can so easily be exaggerated. I dont recall having the feeling there was any bad blood between Stevie and Lindsey that night. Their 'arguing' was, I'm sure just frantic discussions because they just didnt know what to do. Did anyone see him 'pull Stevie's in-ear monitors off'? I bet he just took them out. If that happened then there'd definately be film of it somewhere.

That said, they should have strung it along a bit more. They could have played a couple more songs. No chance they'll be back there in a hurry.

I'm almost 100% sure this was not true... I was playing along..

[jbrownsjr]

Doh.
I feel a bit silly :shrug:

ooopss... Nevermind.. lol:xoxo:

[FuzzyPlum]

OK, I'm over it.

[jbrownsjr]

I'm sure they still fight. But, I don't think an outburst would happen on stage. It would really make the presses, for one thing. And, they're too mature to be doing that in public.

[Macfan4life]

KISS did it no Paul Stanley , the lead singer and they pulled it off

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/kiss-performing-without-paul-stanley-first-video-footage-posted-online/
That's a great answer but not a fair analogy. Kiss was aware Paul Stanley was not to perform per doctors orders well before the show. The band was prepared to give some sort of mutated performance. A drummer is much more key. I am sure if the drummer was ill Kiss would not have been able to perform. Mick fell ill during the acoustic set so those songs were over.
But taking this even further. Many Mac concerts were cancelled in 1987 because Stevie was ill. Is it right for the Mac to perform without one of its members? Lets say they did but removed Stevie songs from the set. There are huge amounts of fans that go just to see Stevie. So many fans would be demanding refunds because all of Fleetwood Mac did not perform.

[elle]

we already have 15-page thread discussing this same thing when the show was first cut short, including which bands played with replacement drummer or other members, etc:

http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=54859&highlight=lincoln+nebraska&page=4

[teedeerocks]

Yea.I agree .They all say .We'll be back here next year". Nobody knows what the future holds.They probably swing by in 2017.

Did they offer a partial refund for the people that were there.That would be the right thing to do.Its BS if they didn't.Somebody should look into this.Also It would be good to let the fans hold their tix stubs from the show for a discount for their next show or better yet for another artist at the same venue.

According to all of the reports I read,there were NO refunds or partial refunds issued for that show.They could have given out free t-shirts or something...:shrug:

[iamnotafraid]

How do you perform without a drummer?


With Stevie on cowbell, who needs a drummer?

[Macfan4life]

Ha Ha
That reminds me of this SNL skit. We need more cowbell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCd0OjjCz88

[olive]

With Stevie on cowbell, who needs a drummer?

best answer

[olive]

That's a great answer but not a fair analogy. Kiss was aware Paul Stanley was not to perform per doctors orders well before the show. The band was prepared to give some sort of mutated performance. A drummer is much more key. I am sure if the drummer was ill Kiss would not have been able to perform. Mick fell ill during the acoustic set so those songs were over.


ok it's been done The WHO replace Keith Moon with a fan midway though a show

http://everyrecordtellsastory.com/2013/11/20/40-years-ago-today-keith-moon-replaced-by-fan-from-crowd/

[Macfan4life]

ok it's been done The WHO replace Keith Moon with a fan midway though a show

http://everyrecordtellsastory.com/2013/11/20/40-years-ago-today-keith-moon-replaced-by-fan-from-crowd/
And the WHO was out of their minds like their drummer. I doubt Mick wants anyone playing his drums let alone being able to play the songs. The WHO sounded like crap but everyone was so wasted they did not care.

[michelej1]

As soon as the show ends, the act stops between these two... or in this case... before the show eneded..



It was the tacos that gave you away. Otherwise, I wouldn't have known the difference.

Michele

[Macfanforever]

According to all of the reports I read,there were NO refunds or partial refunds issued for that show.They could have given out free t-shirts or something...:shrug:


To bad.I figure that.

I dont remember .Correct me if I'm wrong. I think at the tide flooded Stevie show at Jones Beach NY years ago and they offered partial refunds or full refunds at the show.I said screw that .I stayed and floated around "pun intended" in the water until the tides went out during Chris Isaak's set .The tides were all out after Stevie's third song in her set.That night also I earned a EO17 handshake from her.

[teedeerocks]

To bad.I figure that.

I dont remember .Correct me if I'm wrong. I think at the tide flooded Stevie show at Jones Beach NY years ago and they offered partial refunds or full refunds at the show.I said screw that .I stayed and floated around "pun intended" in the water until the tides went out during Chris Isaak's set .The tides were all out after Stevie's third song in her set.That night also I earned a EO17 handshake from her.

I never heard about the tide problem show - thanks for the info.Glad you got a handshake.Was it everything you thought it would be?:blob2:

[chiliD]

Name any concert of any group where a member leaves the stage incapacitated and continues to play without them..

Allman Brothers Band. On more than one occasion played an entire 3 hr show without Gregg Allman (due to effects of his therapy for Hep-C, prior to his liver transplant)

Little Feat. Drummer Richie Hayward couldn't make it through a show due to after effects of chemotherapy treatment; his roadie Gabe Ford filled in. After Richie died, Gabe Ford became Little Feat's full-time drummer.

I've played gigs where a key member of the band has been ill & gotten through the night. At a gig a few years ago, our bass player passed out on stage from effects of shortness of breath at the start of our 2nd set (we played 5 sets) We called 911...they wheeled him out on a gurney with an oxygen mask, and as they did he told me "Use my bass, finish the gig". So, I did, I switched to playing bass, we played the remaining sets. 3 hours after the gig ended, I got a phone call...our bass player had died.

It can be done, just whether the band can be flexible & spontaneous enough to get through it. (and we know how UNspontaneous Fleetwood Mac is)

[estranged4life]

Name any concert of any group where a member leaves the stage incapacitated and continues to play without them. How do you perform without a drummer?

http://www.mtv.com/news/1488205/lars-ulrich-falls-ill-but-metallica-get-some-all-star-temps/

[teedeerocks]

Sorry to hear about your bass player chiliD.It must have been a shock to you all and I'm glad you finished out the gig.:angel:

[iamnotafraid]

(and we know how UNspontaneous Fleetwood Mac is)

You said a mouthful brother.

Three singer songwriters that have been touring
for over forty years can't contribute 3 songs off
the cuff. Something's wrong there.