View Full Version : Tusk - 2015 Deluxe & Expanded!!
justanotherliar
10-24-2015, 08:27 AM
My favourite FM album and one of the greatest released by anyone, ever, IMHO, gets another makeover. I've been a very good boy this year, Santa.:angel:
http://www.spincds.com/blog/2015/10/23/fleetwood-mac-tusk-deluxe-expanded-editions/
Wdm6789
10-24-2015, 09:20 AM
Will this be available in America? Will this be available on iTunes like the deluxe and super deluxe editions of Rumours?
Iamwilliame
10-24-2015, 09:53 AM
Yes!!!!!!!!
Richard B
10-24-2015, 09:56 AM
Awesome!
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sorcerer999
10-24-2015, 11:35 AM
This has just made my whole year!!!!!!! 5.1 DVD audio makes me sooooooo happy!!! My only nitpick would be I wish they would have released the "Tusk documentary" on DVD like they did with Rosebud...but still, this makes me very happy!!!
pattyfan
10-24-2015, 11:37 AM
For me, the live CD is the best part of this. :) Wow, another live version of Over and Over, plus Angel and You Make Loving Fun and Save Me a Place. :) :) Sooooo cool. Will this for sure be available in the US? I looked on Amazon but didn't see it.
Kevin
FuzzyPlum
10-24-2015, 12:14 PM
I know what I'm getting for Christmas.
WayOfTheDragon
10-24-2015, 01:45 PM
God, this is awesome!!! A 22-song live set from the Tusk tour?? I must have!!!! Somebody is listening to the fans :D
This has just made my whole year!!!!!!! 5.1 DVD audio makes me sooooooo happy!!! My only nitpick would be I wish they would have released the "Tusk documentary" on DVD like they did with Rosebud...but still, this makes me very happy!!!
agree. i kept reading and hoping that i would see it mentioned. it's most likely because that doc/live concert is warner bros property. i don't think this is warner releasing this. still, will be nice to hear some live stuff that's never been released even in bootleg form.
Nicks 2016
10-24-2015, 02:43 PM
Now there is something I want for Christmas.Lol.
Let's hope this available in Australia as well at the same time.
Come on JB Hi Fi you can do it again!!:]:]:]
Andy Man
10-24-2015, 04:36 PM
This sounds like a great release. The live tracks will be awesome to have.
I enjoy listening to the live album from the Rumours re-release, however I was sorely disappointed with the fact that there was no "You Make Loving Fun." It seemed very strange to me that the track was not a part of the release as it was a big single from the record. Additionally, it is one of the band's best live songs. Very glad to hear it will have a part of this. I hope a Tusk-era "Second Hand News" is also a part of this release.
I also hope that it is a new remaster of the album. I do enjoy the 2004 remaster, however I have always felt that it was a rather flat mix of the album. Hopefully with all the new technology since '04, Tusk will sound better than ever.
New interviews also sound great.
I am very happy with this news. My fav. Mac album getting the treatment it deserves. One hope that Mirage/Tango will also get similar releases at some point.
AliceLover
10-24-2015, 05:02 PM
Wow, can't wait for the live stuff.
Wdm6789
10-24-2015, 05:41 PM
I love some good live versions. More of Sara and Over and Over and You Make Loving Fun and Not That Funny. Was Blue Letter on there?
Andrew Smith
10-24-2015, 07:48 PM
This makes me so angry! Tusk was already remastered and expanded back in 2004 along with Rumours (which was also reissued yet again in 2013) and the self-titled album which was originally released in 1975.
What about the album in the Fleetwood Mac catalogue that WMG own the rights to that have been completely neglected all together? I'm talking about:
Then Play On (1969)
Kiln House (1970)
Future Games (1971)
Bare Trees (1972)
Penguin (1973)
Mystery To Me (1973)
Heroes Are Hard To Find (1974)
And then from the Buckingham/Nicks era:
Fleetwood Mac Live (1980)
Mirage (1982)
Tango In The Night (1987)
Behind The Mask (1990)
UndoingTheLaces
10-24-2015, 08:41 PM
I'm so excited. I'm sure there will be many surprises. Being a Sara fanatic I'm hoping the Melbourne live version will be on their in stunning clarity and perhaps a version of the album mix that goes on as long as the Cleaning Lady version does. One can dream. :)
michelej1
10-24-2015, 09:50 PM
I can't wait to get my hands on this. Now, most people might think, "Wow, we're on tour playing before people who like our music. If we have a new album collection coming out soon, just before the holidays, we might want to mention that to someone, when we're onstage." But no, not our guys.
Michele
vivfox
10-25-2015, 01:25 AM
One of my 3 all time favorite Rhiannon's was recorded June 22, 1980 in London. I pray this is the version they chose. I would L-O-V-E to have a digital copy.
PenguinHead
10-25-2015, 04:20 AM
I can't wait to get my hands on this. Now, most people might think, "Wow, we're on tour playing before people who like our music. If we have a new album collection coming out soon, just before the holidays, we might want to mention that to someone, when we're onstage." But no, not our guys.
Michele
What I articulated from your post is the feeling the band are missing the opportunity to market this new expanded version of Tusk as their tour wraps up. I suspect the band itself had little or nothing to do with with this project/compilation.
It appears that Warner licensed the material to Spin, an independent company that specializes in repackaging material to specific markets. Many companies like this are industries unto themselves. Just look at Spin's website and you'll understand the concept. It's all legitimate and credible, but absent of direct artist involvement.
No doubt, it will be interesting to hear the live material. On their LIVE album, some songs were heavily polished up post-production. Much like the (disappointingly skimpy) bonus live disc from most current reissue of Rumours, we'll get the unvarnished, more raw performances. Also, an alternative reconstruction of the Tusk album with demos, early versions and outtakes is very intriguing.
Macfan4life
10-25-2015, 05:11 AM
This is so amazing its hard to believe.
Can you imagine next year having the same thing for Mirage. Unheard demos, expanded tracks and a full Mirage tour concert?
Dream on silly dreamer :eek:
PenguinHead
10-25-2015, 05:28 AM
This is so amazing its hard to believe.
Can you imagine next year having the same thing for Mirage. Unheard demos, expanded tracks and a full Mirage tour concert?
Dream on silly dreamer :eek:
That would be amazing, and justly deserved. But ambivalent members of Fleetwood Mac won't be championing the movement. It's at the will of Warner Brothers to licence it off to a third party who cares more about it than they do. Someone will also have to wave a big check at Stevie and Lindsey to motivate them to get off their asses and re-release the Buckingham Nicks album, replete with outtakes, demos and live performance recordings.
nodmod
10-25-2015, 05:36 AM
The details posted on the Spin CD website for the single disc of Tusk lists this as being remastered by Lindsey Buckingham
https://www.spincds.com/coming-soon/tusk-deluxe-edition-5cd-1dvd-a-2-vinyl-47197
"TUSK will be available on December 4 with this 1 disc version fully remastered this year by Lindsey Buckingham.
In addition to the 1 disc there will be a 3 Disc Expanded Edition and a Deluxe (5-CD/2-LP/1-DVD Edition)."
Would be good to know if this is accurate or that this is a re-hash of the 2004 remastering?
shackin'up
10-25-2015, 06:58 AM
Would be good to know if this is accurate or that this is a re-hash of the 2004 remastering?
Exactly. And was the 2004 release remastered by Lindsey? Does Lindsey actually 'remaster'?
nodmod
10-25-2015, 07:04 AM
Exactly. And was the 2004 release remastered by Lindsey? Does Lindsey actually 'remaster'?
The 2004 release was remastered by Bill Ingot and Dan Hersch at Digiprep as listed in the CD booklet
I will be VERY surprised if Lindsey remastered this, maybe he has had a hand in picking the tracks and over-seeing the release, someone should ask Mick about this in the Meet n' Greet sessions
lbfan
10-25-2015, 07:59 AM
Is the European standard for DVD-A the same as the American (I know DVD video comes in Region 1 versus Region 2, and machines are not compatible, just wondering about the audio versions)?
If the DVD-A is the same, then Americans can purchase on-line from the UK with no compatibility issues.
Perhaps Richard Dashut had a hand in the re-mastering. I suggested this several times on his blog as his contribution to the legacy (he never responded).
SisterNightroad
10-25-2015, 08:48 AM
This is awesome but am I the only one thinking that a remastered DVD of the Tusk Documentary (or Largo or Cleveland shows) is missing?
Also I agree with Penguin head and others, the band itself has little to do with the remastering; they probably don't know even if they wear underpants.
I know that one of the previous Rumours reissue was kind of supervised by Lindsey I think; I've read in an interview in which they asked him about it that in his opinion Rumous didn't need another reissue but he had to give the project his Ok.
estranged4life
10-25-2015, 04:39 PM
Would be good to know if this is accurate or that this is a re-hash of the 2004 remastering?
it is a fresh remastering, I would personally prefer something with a great dynamic ranger between 14-17 (The 2011 HDTracks version wasn't too bad with a 13-16 range).
Anything but a rehash is all one would hope for...
starshine
10-25-2015, 05:01 PM
It does sound great but they don't mention much about Stevie's songs outtakes or nothing really--I do hope its great. It would be nice it they'd include outtake photos as well since they've had tons of photos taken that we not ever seen before. Either way it does sound great!!:D:shrug:
Andrew Smith
10-25-2015, 05:13 PM
The 2004 release was remastered by Bill Ingot and Dan Hersch at Digiprep as listed in the CD booklet
I will be VERY surprised if Lindsey remastered this, maybe he has had a hand in picking the tracks and over-seeing the release, someone should ask Mick about this in the Meet n' Greet sessions
The 2013 reissue of Rumours used the 2004 remastering for the main album so I guess that the 2004 remastering of Tusk will be used for this new re-release as well, but obviously I can't be 100% sure.
Andrew Smith
10-25-2015, 05:16 PM
Exactly. And was the 2004 release remastered by Lindsey? Does Lindsey actually 'remaster'?
No, as far as I know Lindsey doesn't carry out (re)mastering work himself, although he is a bit of a studio fanatic and has been involved with mixing before, as well as producing Fleetwood Mac albums as well as his solo albums.
michelej1
10-25-2015, 08:55 PM
Fleetwood Mac’s Underrated ‘Tusk’ Will be Explored in Expanded Reissue
By Nick DeRisoOctober 25, 2015 11:57 AM Ultimate Classic Rock
Read More: Fleetwood Mac's Underrated 'Tusk' Will be Explored in Expanded Reissue | http://ultimateclassicrock.com/fleetwood-mac-tusk-reissue/?trackback=tsmclip
An expanded reissue of Fleetwood Mac‘s underrated 1979 double album Tusk is on the way. Available in a variety of formats on Dec. 4, the set promises to shed to new light on the group’s most ambitious project.
Tusk ended up selling more than four million copies, reaching No. 1 on the U.K. album charts behind favorites like “Sara,” the title track and “Think About Me.” Still, in following the blockbuster Rumours, that was considered a disappointment in some circles. The Grammy-nominated album’s more experimental touches also confused a faction of newer fans.
It’s all explored across a forthcoming 5CD/1DVD/2 LP deluxe edition of Tusk, which will also be available in a 3CD expanded edition, and a 1CD remaster.
The deluxe version includes the original remastered music, an alternate version of the complete album substituting session outtakes – most of which are previously unheard – as well as singles, demos and remixes. Highlights include an early version of “That’s Enough for Me,” which was then titled “Out on the Road.” Two additional discs focus on performances from Fleetwood Mac’s 1979 dates in support of Tusk, recorded in London, St. Louis and Tuscon. This edition is completed with a 5.1 surround mix on DVD-audio, a two-disc vinyl set, and an elegant booklet with expanded liner notes and new interviews.
The expanded edition includes the remastered original album, the alternate edition of sessions outtakes, as well as the singles, demos and remixes. Meanwhile, the reunited Tusk-era lineup continues a hugely successful world tour. Lindsey Buckingham, Mick Fleetwood, Christine McVie, John McVie and Stevie Nicks recently sold out six shows at the O2 Arena in London.
Read More: Fleetwood Mac's Underrated 'Tusk' Will be Explored in Expanded Reissue | http://ultimateclassicrock.com/fleetwood-mac-tusk-reissue/?trackback=tsmclip
SpyNote
10-25-2015, 10:44 PM
So this is where Ken Caillat's mixes went. :thumbsup: I remember when he posted about these mixes (White Album, Tusk) on Facebook. He said that Warner Bros. passed on the DVD-A format (because the format died in the US) so these were shelved. It's nice to have these on disc.
Wdm6789
10-26-2015, 06:12 AM
This will be on iTunes right?
FuzzyPlum
10-26-2015, 09:02 AM
I recall there being a recent Richard Dashut reference to a 'home studio'.
I wonder whether RD had any involvement in the new Tusk work.
KenshiMaster16
10-26-2015, 09:51 AM
Tracklisting for the new TUSK package is out. :blob2:
Disc One: Original Album Remastered
01. “Over & Over”
02. “The Ledge”
03. “Think About Me”
04. “Save Me A Place”
05. “Sara”
06. “What Makes You Think You’re The One”
07. “Storms”
08. “That’s All For Everyone”
09. “Not That Funny”
10. “Sisters Of The Moon”
11. “Angel”
12. “That’s Enough For Me”
13. “Brown Eyes”
14. “Never Make Me Cry”
15. “I Know I’m Not Wrong”
16. “Honey Hi”
17. “Beautiful Child”
18. “Walk A Thin Line”
19. “Tusk”
20. “Never Forget”
Disc Two: Singles, Outtakes, Sessions
01. “Think About Me” – Single Version
02. “That’s All For Everyone” – Remix
03. “Sisters Of The Moon” – Remix
04. “Not That Funny” – Remix
05. “Sara” – Single Version
06. “Walk A Thin Line” – Song #3
07. “Honey Hi” – Alternate Version
08. “Storms” – Alternate Version
09. “Save Me A Place” *
10. “Never Make Me Cry”
11. “Out On The Road” (aka “That’s Enough For Me”) – Alternate Version *
12. “I Know I’m Not Wrong” – Lindsey’s Song #1 (Demo)
13. “I Know I’m Not Wrong” *
14. “I Know I’m Not Wrong” *
15. “I Know I’m Not Wrong” *
16. “I Know I’m Not Wrong” *
17. “I Know I’m Not Wrong” *
18. “Tusk” – Demo *
19. “Tusk” – “Stage Riff” (Demo) *
20. “Tusk” Outtake Track *
21. “Tusk” Outtake Mix *
22. “Tusk” – USC Version *
Disc Three: The Alternate Tusk
01. “Over & Over” *
02. “The Ledge”
03. “Think About Me” *
04. “Save Me A Place” *
05. “Sara”
06. “What Makes You Think You’re The One” *
07. “Storms” *
08. “That’s All For Everyone” *
09. “Not That Funny” *
10. “Sisters Of The Moon”
11. “Angel” *
12. “That’s Enough For Me” *
13. “Brown Eyes” *
14. “Never Make Me Cry” *
15. “I Know I’m Not Wrong” *
16. “Honey Hi” *
17. “Beautiful Child” *
18. “Walk A Thin Line” *
19. “Tusk” *
20. “Never Forget” *
Disc Four: Tusk Tour Live 1
01. Intro *
02. “Say You Love Me” *
03. “The Chain” *
04. “Don’t Stop” *
05. “Dreams” *
06. “Oh Well” *
07. “Rhiannon” *
08. “Over And Over” *
09. “That’s Enough For Me” *
10. “Sara” *
11. “Not That Funny” *
12. “Tusk” *
Disc Five: Tusk Tour Live 2
01. “Save Me A Place” *
02. “Landslide” *
03. “What Makes You Think You’re The One” *
04. “Angel” *
05. “You Make Loving Fun” *
06. “I’m So Afraid” *
07. “World Turning” *
08. “Go Your Own Way” *
09. “Sisters Of The Moon” *
10. “Songbird” *
* Previously Unreleased
haleyd
10-26-2015, 10:19 AM
So am I understanding this correctly, this will NOT be available in the US? I will be absolutely devastated if that's the case. 😏😔
SisterNightroad
10-26-2015, 10:59 AM
Disc Four: Tusk Tour Live 1
01. Intro *
02. “Say You Love Me” *
03. “The Chain” *
04. “Don’t Stop” *
05. “Dreams” *
06. “Oh Well” *
07. “Rhiannon” *
08. “Over And Over” *
09. “That’s Enough For Me” *
10. “Sara” *
11. “Not That Funny” *
12. “Tusk” *
Disc Five: Tusk Tour Live 2
01. “Save Me A Place” *
02. “Landslide” *
03. “What Makes You Think You’re The One” *
04. “Angel” *
05. “You Make Loving Fun” *
06. “I’m So Afraid” *
07. “World Turning” *
08. “Go Your Own Way” *
09. “Sisters Of The Moon” *
10. “Songbird” *
* Previously Unreleased
http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxuynhMIir1rn95k2o1_250.jpg
vivfox
10-26-2015, 11:42 AM
Very excited about the Alternate Tusk tracks and the Live CD from the Tusk Tour.
Sanne2
10-26-2015, 02:21 PM
So still no 16 min. demo of Sara?
I'm also hoping for a nice booklet with lots of unpublished photos.
KarmaContestant
10-26-2015, 03:46 PM
So still no 16 min. demo of Sara?
Knowing Stevie's tendency to exaggerate, I doubt a 16 minute version ever existed, unless it was one of those "work tapes" filled with blather and stoned giggles.
SisterNightroad
10-26-2015, 04:29 PM
When talking about music she rarely exaggerates, if she said that there's a version of 16 minutes with more verse then it exists.
Like when she talked about the original version of Silver Spring that was almost 7 minutes long and it was glorious, it's been released on the Rumours reissue and it was a glorious 6 minutes and 20 seconds that went straight on my favourites' playlist.
It's when she talks about past events that she recounts her very personal view...
WayOfTheDragon
10-26-2015, 05:13 PM
A soundboard live version of "That's Enough For Me"? Yet another reason why I must have this!! :blob2:
Disc Four: Tusk Tour Live 1
01. Intro *
02. “Say You Love Me” *
03. “The Chain” *
04. “Don’t Stop” *
05. “Dreams” *
06. “Oh Well” *
07. “Rhiannon” *
08. “Over And Over” *
09. “That’s Enough For Me” *
10. “Sara” *
11. “Not That Funny” *
12. “Tusk” *
Hawkeye
10-26-2015, 05:18 PM
Wow, it will be worth all of this to finally have sisters of the moon live on an official CD somewhere. And really that whole St. Louis show is incredible, even if some will say rightfully, later tusk shows were a bit more epic, St. Louis is probably best for mass ears.
And I'm really curious about what this "alternative" tusk. How alternative is it. They aren't demos and outakes or else they'd be labeled as such. I would hope and assume they wouldn't waste a disk where the songs are all essentially identical?
pattyfan
10-26-2015, 06:01 PM
Three questions...
So will this be available in the US? I guess we can always order it here from the UK and pay through the nose shipping. :)
Was That's All for Everyone ever played live? And why was that put on here when they could have put on a live version of Think About Me (maybe from the Hollywood Bowl?)
Will the Dreams version have Stevie going for the high notes on "It's only right..." and "It's only me"? (I'm saying no way. :) )
Kevin
Wdm6789
10-26-2015, 06:08 PM
Why is there six I Know I'm Not Wrongs? Do we really need six of those? Wait, there's the regular album version and the alternate album version, so eight. Do we really need eight I Know I'm Not Wrongs? And seven Tusks? Really? Can we have more sessions and outtakes of other songs instead?
WayOfTheDragon
10-26-2015, 06:10 PM
Was That's All for Everyone ever played live?
It was rehearsed in a very rough form, on one of the early Tusk tour rehearsals (where they also tried out Honey Hi & Brown Eyes), which is circulating on a bootleg in soundboard quality. But none of these songs ever made it to the Tusk tour setlist, afaik.
mylittledemon
10-26-2015, 08:59 PM
So am I understanding this correctly, this will NOT be available in the US? I will be absolutely devastated if that's the case. 😏😔
If you pre-order from Spin they will ship to America. I don't see what you're devastated about.
olive
10-26-2015, 09:10 PM
If you pre-order from Spin they will ship to America. I don't see what you're devastated about.
it's only with shipping to Boston it was $99.78
nicole21290
10-26-2015, 09:15 PM
Ah, with shipping this will be a neat $158 for me to get. Like Fleetwood Mac haven't gotten enough of my money in the latter months of this year. :laugh:
jbrownsjr
10-26-2015, 10:12 PM
Why wouldn't they release that in the states?
pattyfan
10-26-2015, 11:43 PM
Ah, with shipping this will be a neat $158 for me to get. Like Fleetwood Mac haven't gotten enough of my money in the latter months of this year. :laugh:
I just checked and it will only be $115 all the way to California, which is I think as far away from the UK as you can be in the US, except for possibly Hawai'i. :)
Kevin
Danigirl
10-26-2015, 11:46 PM
Finally, some unreleased demos! I'm so curious to listen to the demos, I am very curious as to how they evolved being that Lindsey was so innovative in the studio (and bathroom).
Justin Reach
10-27-2015, 04:54 AM
And I'm really curious about what this "alternative" tusk. How alternative is it. They aren't demos and outakes or else they'd be labeled as such. I would hope and assume they wouldn't waste a disk where the songs are all essentially identical?
I assume that the versions of The Ledge, Sara and Sisters Of The Moon will be the versions from the previous remaster on the disc because they don't have a *
Wdm6789
10-27-2015, 06:13 AM
Why is there six I Know I'm Not Wrongs? Do we really need six of those? Wait, there's the regular album version and the alternate album version, so eight. Do we really need eight I Know I'm Not Wrongs? And seven Tusks? Really? Can we have more sessions and outtakes of other songs instead?
^ Still curious about this.
Also, why is this not available in the US? I'm pretty much only concerned about iTunes, I need this on my iTunes.
shackin'up
10-27-2015, 07:21 AM
Why is there six I Know I'm Not Wrongs? Do we really need six of those? Wait, there's the regular album version and the alternate album version, so eight. Do we really need eight I Know I'm Not Wrongs? And seven Tusks? Really?
Well, eh... Yes. I do. For me, it's basicly the reason to purchase this.
haleyd
10-27-2015, 11:12 AM
If you pre-order from Spin they will ship to America. I don't see what you're devastated about.
Because if I'm reading this all correctly then it's my understanding that the format won't work properly in the States. If I'm wrong (and I hope I am) then disregard my comment lol!
Not to mention the shipping cost basically doubles the price 😏
haleyd
10-27-2015, 11:15 AM
I just checked and it will only be $115 all the way to California, which is I think as far away from the UK as you can be in the US, except for possibly Hawai'i. :)
Kevin
Oh great, I'm in CA too. That's more than double the price with shipping!
shackin'up
10-27-2015, 01:32 PM
A soundboard live version of "That's Enough For Me"? Yet another reason why I must have this!! :blob2:
Rotterdam, june 80 I presume. 'The Concert I Did Not Attend'.
SisterNightroad
10-27-2015, 02:26 PM
Rotterdam, june 80 I presume. 'The Concert I Did Not Attend'.
The press release says the live songs are from "London, Tucson, and St. Louis."
Andrew Smith
10-27-2015, 02:47 PM
Will this be available in America? Will this be available on iTunes like the deluxe and super deluxe editions of Rumours?
I imagine the iTunes edition will just be the same as the 3CD Expanded Edition, which means none of the live material on CD 4 & 5 of the Deluxe Edition.
I hope I'm wrong.
jbrownsjr
10-27-2015, 02:47 PM
Rotterdam, june 80 I presume. 'The Concert I Did Not Attend'.
The shame you must feel!! lol
wheart
10-27-2015, 02:59 PM
unless they include a full concert from the Tusk tour, I'm not all interested.
mylittledemon
10-27-2015, 03:51 PM
it's only with shipping to Boston it was $99.78
Yeah looks like 20 pounds to ship no matter where it is in the world. But considering the quantity of stuff in the set, I don't think the price is that outrageous.
olive
10-27-2015, 04:00 PM
Yeah looks like 20 pounds to ship no matter where it is in the world. But considering the quantity of stuff in the set, I don't think the price is that outrageous.
$30.60 american is , to some
shackin'up
10-27-2015, 04:17 PM
Yeah looks like 20 pounds to ship no matter where it is in the world. But considering the quantity of stuff in the set, I don't think the price is that outrageous.
To the Netherlands it seems to be 10 quid.
AncientQueen
10-27-2015, 04:31 PM
Angel Live from 1980, maybe St. Louis? My poor heart, I only have this lousy audio that everyone has and it is my favorite FM moment. Now that in good quality would be so awesome....
Macfanforever
10-27-2015, 05:50 PM
I hope it makes the stores like FYE and Best Buys and the record shop in the casino here in the states.I'm not in the mood to shell out a kings ransom for shipping for it.20 pounds is alot of cash even over there.Since I worked in warehouses some of my life and doing USPS,UPS,Fedex processing too .In reality it probably actually cost them 4 pounds $6 US bucks to ship it.Hell of a mark up.
Fannymac
10-27-2015, 06:00 PM
Amazon is picking up a lot more imports.....I just got the COMPLETELY UNDER THE COVERS 4 disc boxed set from Susanna Hoffs and Matthew Sweet for $33.99.
jbrownsjr
10-27-2015, 06:52 PM
Just wait for the USA release. It will be less costly.
SpyNote
10-27-2015, 07:39 PM
I'm really surprised there isn't an official press release about this. It's really just the indie blogs reporting.
SpyNote
10-27-2015, 08:01 PM
Disc Two: Singles, Outtakes, Sessions
05. “Sara” – Single Version
I'm cautiously optimistic about this. The actual single version (NOT the hack job that appeared on the first pressing of the Tusk CD) is already available on CD via one of the Time/Life CD compilations. But it would be nice if they got this one right and actually included the version that was originally on the Sara 45.
Wdm6789
10-28-2015, 06:07 AM
What is this alternate Tusk? Why is there no alternate Sara?
mylittledemon
10-28-2015, 06:13 AM
$30.60 american is , to some
Cheap shipping seems to be a luxury only afforded within the U.S. nowadays. 20 pounds is spot on accurate a price if it's covering a tracked-for service. I mean, crap in one hand and wish in the other and see which one fills up quicker. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to get the set for less than 50 bucks, but that's just not being realistic. I'll probably wait until it's been out for awhile and then snag one on eBay.
To the Netherlands it seems to be 10 quid.
Well you're only just round the corner! ;)
vivfox
10-28-2015, 12:34 PM
I'm really surprised there isn't an official press release about this. It's really just the indie blogs reporting.
It trended in the number one spot on FB this morning.
Richard B
10-28-2015, 01:08 PM
Amazon.com (USA) started putting up the individual song tracks from this deluxe edition as pre-orders, so the actual deluxe box set will probably be posted very soon. There is no way this is a UK release only.
ON EDIT:
Here it is (for digital version): http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01777NP0A/ref=dm_ws_sp_ps_dp
Box Set: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0178JP1FY/ref=ox_sc_imb_mini_detail?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
soul_drifter333
10-28-2015, 01:31 PM
WOW! Can't wait!!
Amazon.com (USA) started putting up the individual song tracks from this deluxe edition as pre-orders, so the actual deluxe box set will probably be posted very soon. There is no way this is a UK release only.
ON EDIT:
Here it is (for digital version): http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01777NP0A/ref=dm_ws_sp_ps_dp
Box Set: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0178JP1FY/ref=ox_sc_imb_mini_detail?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
pattyfan
10-28-2015, 02:41 PM
Amazon.com (USA) started putting up the individual song tracks from this deluxe edition as pre-orders, so the actual deluxe box set will probably be posted very soon. There is no way this is a UK release only.
ON EDIT:
Here it is (for digital version): http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01777NP0A/ref=dm_ws_sp_ps_dp
Box Set: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0178JP1FY/ref=ox_sc_imb_mini_detail?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
Yaaay. Thanks for posting. You made my day :)
Kevin
on edit...
I just looked at the price. It's actually a few dollars more than if I order it from the UK site. $119.98
:(
sigh....
Richard B
10-28-2015, 03:10 PM
Yaaay. Thanks for posting. You made my day :)
Kevin
on edit...
I just looked at the price. It's actually a few dollars more than if I order it from the UK site. $119.98
:(
sigh....
Hang tight. Amazon has their pre-order price guarantee on this item and they just posted it today, which will always be the list price. Towards mid-late November, I bet you anything it will drop as did the Rumors Deluxe Box Set did as well. I got mine for $70 bucks back then.
iamnotafraid
10-28-2015, 03:40 PM
yes! yes!! yes!!!
This is something to be excited about!!!
pattyfan
10-28-2015, 04:10 PM
Hang tight. Amazon has their pre-order price guarantee on this item and they just posted it today, which will always be the list price. Towards mid-late November, I bet you anything it will drop as did the Rumors Deluxe Box Set did as well. I got mine for $70 bucks back then.
Good to know :) Thanks (fingers crossed...) :)
Kevin:blob2:
stevierocks87
10-28-2015, 04:21 PM
The live disc and "alternative" album sound promising, but yet again another missed opportunity to release the Tusk Live show/documentary. If it's not happening with this I doubt it ever will. Why is it so hard to get archive live footage out of this band?!
MikeVielhaber
10-28-2015, 05:46 PM
Hang tight. Amazon has their pre-order price guarantee on this item and they just posted it today, which will always be the list price. Towards mid-late November, I bet you anything it will drop as did the Rumors Deluxe Box Set did as well. I got mine for $70 bucks back then.
Can you point me to where this is posted on Amazon? I don't see it.
Amazon.com (USA) started putting up the individual song tracks from this deluxe edition as pre-orders, so the actual deluxe box set will probably be posted very soon. There is no way this is a UK release only.
For those of us in the U.S. too poor to buy the BIG box with the LPs, I wonder if Amazon will carry the 3 CD ediion?
Richard B
10-28-2015, 06:03 PM
Can you point me to where this is posted on Amazon? I don't see it.
Are you talking about the price guarantee?
If so, if you click the product link: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0178JP1FY/ref=ox_sc_imb_mini_detail?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
then right under the price in the upper right corner is the price guarantee link, which drops you down a bit on the page to say this:
Special Offers and Product Promotions
Includes FREE MP3 version of this album Here's how (restrictions apply)
Pre-order Price Guarantee! Order now and if the Amazon.com price decreases between your order time and the end of the day of the release date, you'll receive the lowest price. Here's how (http://www.amazon.com/gp/promotions/details/popup/AWT354OR7BM1U) (restrictions apply)
MikeVielhaber
10-28-2015, 06:06 PM
Are you talking about the price guarantee?
If so, if you click the product link: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0178JP1FY/ref=ox_sc_imb_mini_detail?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
then right under the price in the upper right corner is the price guarantee link, which drops you down a bit on the page to say this:
Special Offers and Product Promotions
Includes FREE MP3 version of this album Here's how (restrictions apply)
Pre-order Price Guarantee! Order now and if the Amazon.com price decreases between your order time and the end of the day of the release date, you'll receive the lowest price. Here's how (http://www.amazon.com/gp/promotions/details/popup/AWT354OR7BM1U) (restrictions apply)
No, I meant the product page. I couldn't find it. Thanks for posting!
Richard B
10-28-2015, 06:13 PM
For those of us in the U.S. too poor to buy the BIG box with the LPs, I wonder if Amazon will carry the 3 CD ediion?
I don't see the 3 CD version of the Expanded, but I do see the pre-order for the Expanded digital version: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01777O982/ref=dm_ws_sp_ps_dp
Richard B
10-28-2015, 06:16 PM
No, I meant the product page. I couldn't find it. Thanks for posting!
No problem! Also note that if you buy the big deluxe box via Amazon, you get the digital downloads for free too (if that matters).
On another note, I wish they put the 5.1 surround mix on Blu-ray and not DVD-A. Blu-ray audio is really the best format now. I have a DVD-A player, but blu-ray is really far more accessible for people. Kinda surprised actually...well maybe not.
TheWILDheart
10-29-2015, 05:08 PM
Does anyone know where the link has gone to pre-order in the UK? The first link is dead? :(
Machu
10-29-2015, 06:42 PM
I will be getting that for sure. Maybe they can work on remastering Mirage since Tusk will have been remastered twice now. But there's probably the "Ultimate Mega Edition" of Rumours to work on first. Hehe
Richard B
10-29-2015, 10:01 PM
For those of us in the U.S. too poor to buy the BIG box with the LPs, I wonder if Amazon will carry the 3 CD ediion?
Here's the 3-CD Expanded Tusk: http://www.amazon.com/Tusk-Expanded-3CD-Fleetwood-Mac/dp/B0178JP1EA/ref=sr_1_1_twi_aud_2?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1446173997&sr=1-1&keywords=tusk+expanded+3
Macfanforever
10-29-2015, 11:35 PM
Amazon.com (USA) started putting up the individual song tracks from this deluxe edition as pre-orders, so the actual deluxe box set will probably be posted very soon. There is no way this is a UK release only.
ON EDIT:
Here it is (for digital version): http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01777NP0A/ref=dm_ws_sp_ps_dp
Box Set: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0178JP1FY/ref=ox_sc_imb_mini_detail?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
Thanks RichardB for the heads up.
I'll take the hard copy.No Digital for me.
Here's the 3-CD Expanded Tusk: http://www.amazon.com/Tusk-Expanded-3CD-Fleetwood-Mac/dp/B0178JP1EA/ref=sr_1_1_twi_aud_2?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1446173997&sr=1-1&keywords=tusk+expanded+3
Thank you, Richard B! I just preordered.
Phil Lee
10-30-2015, 10:46 AM
Here's a link to it on Amazon.co.uk:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0178JP1FY/
I found a number of links to buy it here:
http://www.superdeluxeedition.com/news/fleetwood-mac-tusk-8-disc-super-deluxe-edition-box-set/
BlueDenimLamp
10-30-2015, 11:00 AM
Rolling Stone (http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/fleetwood-mac-prep-massive-tusk-reissue-20151030) Has a detailed track listing/ dates songs were recorded and (cities) for the live tracks...
Street_Dreamer
10-30-2015, 11:17 AM
Pre-ordered... but I wish it were Mirage or Tango In The Night...
WayOfTheDragon
10-30-2015, 11:31 AM
Rolling Stone (http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/fleetwood-mac-prep-massive-tusk-reissue-20151030) Has a detailed track listing/ dates songs were recorded and (cities) for the live tracks...
I'm glad they're using a lot of tracks from the later months of the tour. I'm excited to hear the tracks from Wembley and Tuscon.
Disc Four: Tusk Tour Live I *
1. Intro (Wembley, 06/26/80)
2. "Say You Love Me"(Wembley, 06/26/80)
3. "The Chain" (Wembley, 06/20/80)
4. "Don't Stop" (Wembley, 06/27/80)
5. "Dreams" (Wembley, 06/20/80)
6. "Oh Well" (Wembley, 06/20/80)
7. "Rhiannon" (Tuscon, 08/28/80)
8. "Over And Over" (St. Louis, 11/05/79)
9. "That's Enough For Me" (Wembley, 06/21/80)
10. "Sara" (Tuscon, 08/28/80)
11. "Not That Funny" (St. Louis, 11/05/79)
12. "Tusk" (St. Louis, 11/05/79)
Disc Five: Tusk Tour Live II *
1. "Save Me A Place" (St. Louis, 11/05/79)
2. "Landslide" (Omaha, 08/21/80)
3. "What Makes You Think You're The One" (St. Louis, 11/05/79)
4. "Angel" (St. Louis, 11/05/79)
5. "You Make Loving Fun" (Wembley, 06/20/80)
6. "I'm So Afraid" (St. Louis, 11/05/79)
7. "World Turning" (Wembley, 06/22/80)
8. "Go Your Own Way" (Wembley, 06/22/80)
9. "Sisters Of The Moon" (Wembley, 06/22/80)
10. "Songbird" (Wembley, 06/27/80)
Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/fleetwood-mac-prep-massive-tusk-reissue-20151030#ixzz3q4LwW4Oe
WayOfTheDragon
10-30-2015, 11:40 AM
8. "Over And Over" (St. Louis, 11/05/79)
Also, if these dates are correct, they're releasing St. Louis tracks from a different night than the circulating soundboard bootleg (my copy of the bootleg says it's from November 6th).
The Nov. 5th tracks were used in the Tusk doc video, right?
SisterNightroad
10-30-2015, 11:55 AM
Also, if these dates are correct, they're releasing St. Louis tracks from a different night than the circulating soundboard bootleg (my copy of the bootleg says it's from November 6th).
The Nov. 5th tracks were used in the Tusk doc video, right?
The tusk documentary should have tracks from both nights, while the circulating soundboard bootleg is from the 6th november.
However Angel from the documentary should be from the 5th November because it's different from the bootleg and also Mike Bise said it.
olive
10-30-2015, 12:12 PM
Also, if these dates are correct, they're releasing St. Louis tracks from a different night than the circulating soundboard bootleg (my copy of the bootleg says it's from November 6th).
The Nov. 5th tracks were used in the Tusk doc video, right? l
and there's that boot leg of stevie yelling to kick some ass from Bristol Ct it's From Colt State Park in Bristol Rhode Island I know I was there so I wouldn't assume the bootleg info is correct
vivfox
10-30-2015, 12:30 PM
I'm glad they're using a lot of tracks from the later months of the tour. I'm excited to hear the tracks from Wembley and Tuscon.
Disc Four: Tusk Tour Live I *
1. Intro (Wembley, 06/26/80)
2. "Say You Love Me"(Wembley, 06/26/80)
3. "The Chain" (Wembley, 06/20/80)
4. "Don't Stop" (Wembley, 06/27/80)
5. "Dreams" (Wembley, 06/20/80)
6. "Oh Well" (Wembley, 06/20/80)
7. "Rhiannon" (Tuscon, 08/28/80)
8. "Over And Over" (St. Louis, 11/05/79)
9. "That's Enough For Me" (Wembley, 06/21/80)
10. "Sara" (Tuscon, 08/28/80)
11. "Not That Funny" (St. Louis, 11/05/79)
12. "Tusk" (St. Louis, 11/05/79)
Disc Five: Tusk Tour Live II *
1. "Save Me A Place" (St. Louis, 11/05/79)
2. "Landslide" (Omaha, 08/21/80)
3. "What Makes You Think You're The One" (St. Louis, 11/05/79)
4. "Angel" (St. Louis, 11/05/79)
5. "You Make Loving Fun" (Wembley, 06/20/80)
6. "I'm So Afraid" (St. Louis, 11/05/79)
7. "World Turning" (Wembley, 06/22/80)
8. "Go Your Own Way" (Wembley, 06/22/80)
9. "Sisters Of The Moon" (Wembley, 06/22/80)
10. "Songbird" (Wembley, 06/27/80)
Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/fleetwood-mac-prep-massive-tusk-reissue-20151030#ixzz3q4LwW4Oe
Any track recorded in May or June of 1980 should be outstanding as they were at their prime, as far as my tastes are concerned. But I am really worried about the Tuscon gig songs because at that point in the tour, the band was exhausted and their performances suffered, IMO. The Hollywood Bowl show bootlegs recorded just a few days later showcased very tired Rhiannon's. And ANY live Rhiannon is always gonna be my most desired track on a record. I was always let down by that pitiful one they put on FM Live back in 1980.
sanders8323
10-30-2015, 12:47 PM
The version of Rhiannon on FM Live is from the Rumours tour if I'm not mistaken. By the time the Tusk tour came around she wasn't even going for the high notes anymore, not even at the latter part of the Rumours tour.
SisterNightroad
10-30-2015, 12:52 PM
The version of Rhiannon on FM Live is from the Rumours tour if I'm not mistaken. By the time the Tusk tour came around she wasn't even going for the high notes anymore, not even at the latter part of the Rumours tour.
True! It's from London 1977.
Fannymac
10-30-2015, 05:15 PM
Pre-ordered... but I wish it were Mirage or Tango In The Night...
I agree......as much as I love TUSK (it's my all-time favorite album!), I REALLY think it's time for MIRAGE and TANGO to get the remastered treatment! I want "Ricky" on CD!!!!
Any track recorded in May or June of 1980 should be outstanding as they were at their prime, as far as my tastes are concerned. But I am really worried about the Tuscon gig songs because at that point in the tour, the band was exhausted and their performances suffered, IMO. The Hollywood Bowl show bootlegs recorded just a few days later showcased very tired Rhiannon's. And ANY live Rhiannon is always gonna be my most desired track on a record. I was always let down by that pitiful one they put on FM Live back in 1980.
Wow. Amazing how tastes can differ. IMO, that Rhiannon on the Live album is by far one of the best versions. I highly disagree that one could call it "pitiful", with all due respect :)
michelej1
10-30-2015, 08:41 PM
Ultimate Classic Rock
Fleetwood Mac Reveal Full Details of Expanded ‘Tusk’ Reissue
By Jeff GilesOctober 30, 2015 10:22 AM
Read More: Fleetwood Mac Reveal Full Details of Expanded 'Tusk' Reissue | http://ultimateclassicrock.com/fleetwood-mac-tusk-reissue-2015/?trackback=tsmclip
Fleetwood Mac fans planning on shelling out for the remastered and expanded edition of Tusk can now take a look at exactly what they’ll be getting.
The band has revealed the complete track listing for the upcoming reissue, which — as previously reported — gives the original LP a fresh audio scrub while bundling in single edits, outtakes, live performances from the Tusk tour and a complete alternate version of the album.
Due Dec. 4, the expanded Tusk — available for pre-order now — will be available in a variety of configurations, starting with a five-CD deluxe edition that packs in a two-LP vinyl remaster as well as a DVD featuring a 5.1 surround mix. More budget-conscious buyers can opt for a three-disc version that leaves out the live recordings, or just remain content with a single-disc remaster of the original LP. The band, meanwhile, remains on the road behind its On With the Show tour. Following that, a new album is possible.
Fleetwood Mac, ‘Tusk’ Deluxe Edition Track Listing
Disc One: Original Album Remastered
“Over & Over”
“The Ledge”
“Think About Me”
“Save Me A Place”
“Sara”
“What Makes You Think You’re The One”
“Storms”
“That’s All For Everyone”
“Not That Funny”
“Sisters of the Moon”
“Angel”
“That’s Enough For Me”
“Brown Eyes”
“Never Make Me Cry”
“I Know I’m Not Wrong”
“Honey Hi”
“Beautiful Child”
“Walk a Thin Line”
“Tusk”
“Never Forget”
Disc Two: Singles, Outtakes, Sessions
“Think About Me” (Single Remix)
“That’s All for Everyone” (Remix)
“Sisters of the Moon” (Remix)
“Not That Funny” (Single Remix)
“Sara” (Single Edit)
“Walk a Thin Line” (Song #3 – 03/13/79)
“Honey Hi” (Alternate Version – 10/18/78)
“Storms” (Alternate Version – 11/30/78)
“Save Me a Place” (2nd Version -10/10/78)
“Never Make Me Cry” (Version – 04/17/79)
“Out On The Road” (aka “That’s Enough For Me” – Demo – 12/19/78)
“I Know I’m Not Wrong” – Lindsey’s Song #1 (Demo)
“I Know I’m Not Wrong” (10/10/78 Version)
“I Know I’m Not Wrong” (11/3/78 Version)
“I Know I’m Not Wrong” (4/25/79 Version)
“I Know I’m Not Wrong” (8/13/79 Version)
“I Know I’m Not Wrong” (1/23/79 Version)
“Tusk” (Demo – 01/15/79)
“Tusk” “Stage Riff” (Demo – 01/30/79)
“Tusk” (Outtake Track – 02/01/79)
“Tusk” (Outtake Mix – 01/23/79)
“Tusk” (USC Version – 06/04/79)
Disc Three: The Alternate ‘Tusk’
“Over & Over” (04/02/79)
“The Ledge” (03/13/79)
“Think About Me” (02/18/79)
“Save Me a Place” (10/18/78)
“Sara” (03/10/79)
“What Makes You Think You’re the One” (02/24/79)
“Storms” (06/02/79)
“That’s All for Everyone” (10/20/78)
“Not That Funny” (05/19/79)
“Sisters of the Moon” (11/12/78)
“Angel” (04/02/79)
“That’s Enough for Me” (09/29/78)
“Brown Eyes” (with Lindsey & Peter Green, 09/20/78)
“Never Make Me Cry” (02/08/79)
“I Know I’m Not Wrong” (11/02/78)
“Honey Hi” (10/11/78)
“Beautiful Child” (10/09/78)
“Walk a Thin Line” (04/06/79)
“Tusk” (07/19/79)
“Never Forget” (06/29/78)
Disc Four: Tusk Tour Live I
Intro (Wembley, 06/26/80)
“Say You Love Me” (Wembley, 06/26/80)
“The Chain” (Wembley, 06/20/80)
“Don’t Stop” (Wembley, 06/27/80)
“Dreams” (Wembley, 06/20/80)
“Oh Well” (Wembley, 06/20/80)
“Rhiannon” (Tuscon, 08/28/80)
“Over and Over” (St. Louis, 11/05/79)
“That’s Enough for Me” (Wembley, 06/21/80)
“Sara” (Tuscon, 08/28/80)
“Not That Funny” (St. Louis, 11/05/79)
“Tusk” (St. Louis, 11/05/79)
Disc Five: Tusk Tour Live II
“Save Me a Place” (St. Louis, 11/05/79)
“Landslide” (Omaha, 08/21/80)
“What Makes You Think You’re the One” (St. Louis, 11/05/79)
“Angel” (St. Louis, 11/05/79)
“You Make Loving Fun” (Wembley, 06/20/80)
“I’m So Afraid” (St. Louis, 11/05/79)
“World Turning” (Wembley, 06/22/80)
“Go Your Own Way” (Wembley, 06/22/80)
“Sisters of the Moon” (Wembley, 06/22/80)
“Songbird” (Wembley, 06/27/80)
Read More: Fleetwood Mac Reveal Full Details of Expanded 'Tusk' Reissue | http://ultimateclassicrock.com/fleetwood-mac-tusk-reissue-2015/?trackback=tsmclip
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Rolling Stone
Fleetwood Mac Prep Massive 'Tusk' Reissue
5-CD deluxe edition features dozens of unreleased demos, live tracks and an 'Alternate Tusk'
By Daniel Kreps October 30, 2015
Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/fleetwood-mac-prep-massive-tusk-reissue-20151030#ixzz3q6bpUjrS
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Fleetwood Mac will revisit their 1979 epic Tusk this December with an ultra-deluxe reissue featuring dozens of unreleased alternate takes and live renditions of the album's tracks. In addition to the completely remastered original album and the demo recordings and single remixes that were previously included in the 2004 reissue, the new 5-CD/2-LP/1-DVD edition will also feature an "Alternate Tusk," a disc that reassembles the album's original track listing using different takes of each song.
The reissue also zeroes in on two tracks – "I Know I'm Not Wrong" and "Tusk" – to show how the album developed over the course of two years: In the former case, the song appears six times, first as Lindsey Buckingham's home demo, then its maturation over the course of five recording sessions stretched across a 10-month period. Five attempts at "Tusk" – from demo to the USC Marching Band – are also included. (A seventh version of "I Know I'm Not Wrong" and a sixth take on "Tusk" are similarly featured on the "Alternate Tusk" disc.)
On top of the largely unreleased "Alternate Tusk," the Tusk super deluxe reissue will boast two CDs' worth of unreleased live tracks culled from Fleetwood Mac's yearlong Tusk tour. The deluxe edition also includes a 2-LP of the original album as well as a DVD-audio of Tusk with a 5.1 surround mix. Rhino will release the 5-CD/2-LP/1-DVD edition – as well as a 3-CD reissue (minus the live CDs, vinyl and DVD) and a digital version – on December 4th. Pre-order now at Amazon.
Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/fleetwood-mac-prep-massive-tusk-reissue-20151030#ixzz3q6bdijYs
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vivfox
10-31-2015, 12:08 AM
Wow. Amazing how tastes can differ. IMO, that Rhiannon on the Live album is by far one of the best versions. I highly disagree that one could call it "pitiful", with all due respect :)
I know a lot of people like it but before that performance was known to us I had been listening to the Live Rhiannon's from Sin City (August 1977) & Albatross, But Not Around My Neck Please (1976) bootlegs and these 2 versions were a billion times better. The live Rhiannon experience is the most important part of the show for me. I wish Stevie would give up the crack head dance in GDW and throw all her energy back into Rhiannon like she did in the old days.
PenguinHead
10-31-2015, 12:29 AM
I'm really interested in the alternate Tusk album, as well as the live performances.
I think the live songs will expose, if untouched, the level of post-production that was done on some of the songs on the LIVE album. At the time of its released, I recall Christine describing the album as "warts and all." But some of those warts were covered over in the studio. Yet that's typical of many live albums.
pattyfan
10-31-2015, 01:35 AM
I agree. The first live version of Rhiannon I ever got was the Sin City bootleg and, as I've posted before here, it is still my favorite by far. When I heard the Fleetwood Mac Live version, I was disappointed, though I don't think that version is bad. It just isn't nearly as good as what I was expecting. But I have to say that about Landslide from Fleetwood Mac Live too. I've always thought it was really really weak compared to many other versions I've heard. Stevie's voice does not seem to be in good shape on that version, and I've always wondered why they chose that version.
Kevin
iamnotafraid
10-31-2015, 01:58 AM
The deluxe 5CD/1DVD/2LP set has made it to #49 on
Amazon's Top 100 Chart. Not bad at all for FM's best
album.
More importantly the excellent new CD released today
Elvis with The Royal Philharmonic Orchestra, If I Can Dream
is at #2.
I know a lot of people like it but before that performance was known to us I had been listening to the Live Rhiannon's from Sin City (August 1977) & Albatross, But Not Around My Neck Please (1976) bootlegs and these 2 versions were a billion times better. The live Rhiannon experience is the most important part of the show for me. I wish Stevie would give up the crack head dance in GDW and throw all her energy back into Rhiannon like she did in the old days.
Now THAT i agree with! I still check the current Rhiannon clips to see what she does at the end but I've given up hope. It will never be what it was.
chiliD
10-31-2015, 12:27 PM
Only part of this set that would inspire me to buy are the two live discs.
But, the whole thing is pissin' me off...first they're on their, what?, 4th reissue of Rumours?? Now, this is the 2nd (of how many more?) reissue of Tusk...how about releasing an album of NEW material, people??
Only part of this set that would inspire me to buy are the two live discs.
But, the whole thing is pissin' me off...first they're on their, what?, 4th reissue of Rumours?? Now, this is the 2nd (of how many more?) reissue of Tusk...how about releasing an album of NEW material, people??
same.
although we know at least one band member who is much more frustrated about no new album than both of us added together.
Justin Reach
10-31-2015, 01:19 PM
Hmm, where does the remix of That's All For Everyone come from on disc 2? As far as i know it was never used on a single a or b side was it? On that disc there's also the single mix of Not That Funny, i don't think that's been released before has it?
BigAl84
10-31-2015, 01:46 PM
All things aside, as somebody who remembers the draught between 1997-2003 where there was literally nothing new until TISL, the past couple of years has been a really cool time to be a fan. Officially released soundboard recordings from the tusk tour? That idea would of been laughed out of the room back in the day...
Not sure if anyone has gone back to Mick's (first) book but I skimmed through the Tusk tour part and during the Wembley shows he was ill and said that some of the shows were great and others were not. I hope whoever put this together did a good job and picked the good shows lol.
SorcererJP
10-31-2015, 02:08 PM
It's also on Dutch bol.com as well:
http://www.bol.com/nl/p/tusk/9200000051345293/
Only 93 euro's :-)
Dunno if they ship abroad ...
Edit: Yes, they do.
vivfox
10-31-2015, 03:25 PM
Hmm, where does the remix of That's All For Everyone come from on disc 2? As far as i know it was never used on a single a or b side was it? On that disc there's also the single mix of Not That Funny, i don't think that's been released before has it?
In 1980 WB released a 4 song EP with a remix of That's All For Everyone and a SOTM remix and I forget the other 2 songs on there.
shackin'up
10-31-2015, 07:17 PM
It's also on Dutch bol.com as well:
http://www.bol.com/nl/p/tusk/9200000051345293/
Only 93 euro's :-)
Dunno if they ship abroad ...
Edit: Yes, they do.
Then I hope Kroese Nijmegen sells it for 75-80
Then I hope Kroese Arnhem sells it for 75-80
Not quite, but: http://www.kroese-online.nl/artikel/3460688/Fleetwood_Mac/Tusk_-deluxe-
BigAl84
11-01-2015, 09:59 AM
Just a heads up...the deluxe set can be ordered on amazon uk for about 70.00 us dollars shipped. A better deal than the current us price.
James Kirk
11-01-2015, 10:40 AM
In 1980 WB released a 4 song EP with a remix of That's All For Everyone and a SOTM remix and I forget the other 2 songs on there.
Hi Vivfox, is this the one you were thinking of?
Still gets some play at my place, really get a kick out of it. It will be nice to have the different versions on CD.
Justin Reach
11-01-2015, 11:11 AM
Hi Vivfox, is this the one you were thinking of?
Still gets some play at my place, really get a kick out of it. It will be nice to have the different versions on CD.
I wonder if That's All For Everyone was being considered for a single release at this point and that's why there was a remix?
James Kirk
11-01-2015, 11:23 AM
I wonder if That's All For Everyone was being considered for a single release at this point and that's why there was a remix?
You bring up an interesting point. I wonder. I cant imagine them remixing a track and NOT releasing it but you never know.
pattyfan
11-01-2015, 12:03 PM
I have a quick question. People in this thread were saying that the version of Rhiannon used for the Fleetwood Mac Live double album wasn't from the Tusk tour at all but rather from the Rumours too. I didn't remember that, so I went back to look at the linear notes and it only says that it's from London, as was the version of Landslide that they used too. There is no date given for any of the tracks. So I'm just curious how you guys found out that it wasn't from the Tusk tour. Thanks. :)
Kevin
SisterNightroad
11-01-2015, 12:30 PM
I have a quick question. People in this thread were saying that the version of Rhiannon used for the Fleetwood Mac Live double album wasn't from the Tusk tour at all but rather from the Rumours too. I didn't remember that, so I went back to look at the linear notes and it only says that it's from London, as was the version of Landslide that they used too. There is no date given for any of the tracks. So I'm just curious how you guys found out that it wasn't from the Tusk tour. Thanks. :)
Kevin
The "discographies" part of this very site, here: http://discog.fleetwoodmac.net/discog.php?pid=37
and also someone copied it on wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_(Fleetwood_Mac_album)
vivfox
11-01-2015, 01:49 PM
Hi Vivfox, is this the one you were thinking of?
Still gets some play at my place, really get a kick out of it. It will be nice to have the different versions on CD.
YES, this is it. 6 songs listed but my old memory only recalled 4. LOL
WayOfTheDragon
11-01-2015, 01:53 PM
I have a quick question. People in this thread were saying that the version of Rhiannon used for the Fleetwood Mac Live double album wasn't from the Tusk tour at all but rather from the Rumours too. I didn't remember that, so I went back to look at the linear notes and it only says that it's from London, as was the version of Landslide that they used too. There is no date given for any of the tracks. So I'm just curious how you guys found out that it wasn't from the Tusk tour. Thanks. :)
Kevin
Since we know the performance was recorded in London, it could have been from either April 1977 or June 1980. But the way she performed Rhiannon after 1977 was different from the early Rumours shows. Her voice sounded different, she wasn't trying to hit as many of the high notes, and she was doing different ad libs at the end of the song. None of the 1980 Rhiannons sound like the version on the Live album- but the Live album version fits in perfectly with how the song sounds on other Rumours shows from that time (such as the Nashville soundboard bootleg from May '77).
With Landslide it's harder to tell, but if I remember right, the audience applause at the end sounds like it's coming from a smaller theater audience as opposed to the Wembley Arena (they played Wembley in '80 but played the Rainbow Theatre in '77).
vivfox
11-01-2015, 05:18 PM
Since we know the performance was recorded in London, it could have been from either April 1977 or June 1980. But the way she performed Rhiannon after 1977 was different from the early Rumours shows. Her voice sounded different, she wasn't trying to hit as many of the high notes, and she was doing different ad libs at the end of the song. None of the 1980 Rhiannons sound like the version on the Live album- but the Live album version fits in perfectly with how the song sounds on other Rumours shows from that time (such as the Nashville soundboard bootleg from May '77).
I would agree with all of this.
Phil Lee
11-02-2015, 05:52 AM
The price has dropped to £44.99 on Amazon.co.uk so I just pre-ordered.
UndoingTheLaces
11-02-2015, 11:31 PM
Hi Vivfox, is this the one you were thinking of?
Still gets some play at my place, really get a kick out of it. It will be nice to have the different versions on CD.
I have this but haven't listened to it in ages. I don't have a good turntable anymore. I recall this version of Sisters is pretty amazing. It has the cold ending, doesn't it?
The price has dropped to £44.99 on Amazon.co.uk so I just pre-ordered.
Mee too........I can't wait for this!
James Kirk
11-03-2015, 10:25 AM
I have this but haven't listened to it in ages. I don't have a good turntable anymore. I recall this version of Sisters is pretty amazing. It has the cold ending, doesn't it?
Hi UndoingTheLaces, yes, you are correct, it has the cold ending. Still sounds fantastic too. Just listened to it this morning to refresh my memory. That version really rocks! Its a good one.
SisterNightroad
11-03-2015, 10:48 AM
I have this but haven't listened to it in ages. I don't have a good turntable anymore. I recall this version of Sisters is pretty amazing. It has the cold ending, doesn't it?
Hi UndoingTheLaces, yes, you are correct, it has the cold ending. Still sounds fantastic too. Just listened to it this morning to refresh my memory. That version really rocks! Its a good one.
Can I ask what is the "cold" ending?
James Kirk
11-03-2015, 11:16 AM
Can I ask what is the "cold" ending?
Hi SisterNightroad, sure thing, a cold ending is when they just basically stop playing as opposed to having the song fade out.
On the Album version of "Sisters" the fade out begins at approximately 4:24 and continues down to 4:43.
The remix version does not fade out and they stop playing at about 4:41 so it is an abrupt ending right on Lindsey's guitar solo, its kinda cool actually.
SisterNightroad
11-03-2015, 01:02 PM
Hi SisterNightroad, sure thing, a cold ending is when they just basically stop playing as opposed to having the song fade out.
On the Album version of "Sisters" the fade out begins at approximately 4:24 and continues down to 4:43.
The remix version does not fade out and they stop playing at about 4:41 so it is an abrupt ending right on Lindsey's guitar solo, its kinda cool actually.
Oh, yeah, I understood what version you're talking about!
Thanks.
shackin'up
11-03-2015, 03:06 PM
Not quite, but: http://www.kroese-online.nl/artikel/3460688/Fleetwood_Mac/Tusk_-deluxe-
Maar dat zal echt de laagste prijs zijn in NL
But that'll be the lowest prize in the Netherlands.
Fannymac
11-03-2015, 03:23 PM
Available domestically at Amazon now! Due out December 4th!
Fannymac
11-03-2015, 03:24 PM
Available domestically at Amazon now! Due out December 4th.
Available domestically at Amazon now! Due out December 4th!
thanks! contents of all 5 CDs are available as download for $37. i'm going with that.
shackin'up
11-04-2015, 02:01 PM
It's also on Dutch bol.com as well:
http://www.bol.com/nl/p/tusk/9200000051345293/
Only 93 euro's :-)
Dunno if they ship abroad ...
Edit: Yes, they do.
If you order at Amazon.co.uk you pay 48 pound 16, which means 68 euro 16 including shipment to The Netherlands. 2-3 businessdays. That's almost 18 euro's cheaper than Kroese Nijmegen, and even 25 euro's cheaper than bol.com
Nicks 2016
11-05-2015, 03:26 AM
https://www.jbhifi.com.au/FileLibrary/ProductResources/Images/156480-L-HI.jpg
Now showing available in Australia at JB Hi Fi release date 4th December.:blob2:
Saying price will be $149.00
nicole21290
11-05-2015, 05:37 AM
http://www.mojo4music.com/22268/listen-to-unreleased-fleetwood-mac-sara/
Naturally, it won't let me listen to it from 'my country/location'. Because the internet is evil. Enjoy, though! :laugh:
Sanne2
11-05-2015, 06:00 AM
If you order at Amazon.co.uk you pay 48 pound 16, which means 68 euro 16 including shipment to The Netherlands. 2-3 businessdays. That's almost 18 euro's cheaper than Kroese Nijmegen, and even 25 euro's cheaper than bol.com
The Bol.com price dropped to €76,99
nicole21290
11-05-2015, 06:13 AM
Had a quick look at the pre-order on iTunes and two of the tracks have times already up; one is Sara and so I assume we'll hear the other soon enough as well.
http://s2.postimg.org/ioqnxqy7t/Screen_Shot_2015_11_05_at_10_11_53_pm.png
MoonSister75
11-05-2015, 08:08 AM
http://www.mojo4music.com/22268/listen-to-unreleased-fleetwood-mac-sara/
Naturally, it won't let me listen to it from 'my country/location'. Because the internet is evil. Enjoy, though! :laugh:
Oh thank you!!! :angel:
Just listening now.... It has a beautiful ending to it. It certainly makes me want to buy the box set, without question :D
SisterNightroad
11-05-2015, 09:42 AM
Oh my god I can't listen to it either!!!
Please someone describe this in detail!!!!!
Danielle
11-05-2015, 10:06 AM
Oh my god I can't listen to it either!!!
Please someone describe this in detail!!!!!
Install Hola and you'll be able to listen to it; it's fast and simple: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/unlimited-free-vpn-hola/gkojfkhlekighikafcpjkiklfbnlmeio
SisterNightroad
11-05-2015, 10:18 AM
Install Hola and you'll be able to listen to it; it's fast and simple: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/unlimited-free-vpn-hola/gkojfkhlekighikafcpjkiklfbnlmeio
Thank you so much Danielle, I think I'll make you a saint!
deribish
11-05-2015, 11:05 AM
It's up at Rolling Stone... and it's amazing:
www.rollingstone.com/music/news/hear-fleetwood-macs-real-pretty-live-sara-from-new-tusk-box-set-20151105
WayOfTheDragon
11-05-2015, 11:41 AM
It's up at Rolling Stone... and it's amazing:
www.rollingstone.com/music/news/hear-fleetwood-macs-real-pretty-live-sara-from-new-tusk-box-set-20151105
I love the guitar solo at the end.
jcfree
11-05-2015, 12:07 PM
Wow, this live version of Sara is just amazing!
SorcererJP
11-05-2015, 12:17 PM
Had the same problem overhere (The Netherlands), thanks for the Hola-link.
This Sara is beautiful. Wow, that promises a lot for the rest of those two live CD's (only reason I'll buy it while it will be on Spotify too probably).
deribish
11-05-2015, 12:30 PM
Christine is doing some kick-ass rhythmic parts during the verses -- in a style I've never heard before. The arrangement and everything is different. It's great to hear!
sorcerer999
11-05-2015, 12:45 PM
Repeating my comments from a thread in the Stevie forum regarding this song - Nice! She's starting to sing it pretty much the way she would perform it on the "Bella Donna" tour. You can hear the evolution.
Interesting to hear that Christine jumps the gun and hits a sour note after the "I think I had met my match" part. Oops.
The musical ending with Lindsey's guitar solo and Christine's chord arrangement is EVERYTHING!!! I'm so glad they released this version and extremely psyched for this boxed set!
SorcererJP
11-05-2015, 01:00 PM
If you pre-order on iTunes yo get Sara tomorrow already so an add on FB said ...
WayOfTheDragon
11-05-2015, 01:22 PM
Christine is doing some kick-ass rhythmic parts during the verses -- in a style I've never heard before. The arrangement and everything is different. It's great to hear!
Yes... I love the sound of the tack piano.
He's So Unusual
11-05-2015, 04:34 PM
I can't wait to get this.
BigAl84
11-05-2015, 05:27 PM
If I saw Lindsey on the street today, I would BEG BEG BEG him to bring back the tack piano and all of that awesome guitar work which is largely missing in action in today's live approach. Besides, I think the tack piano would sound less dated than the cheezy synth they have going on now.
BigAl84
11-05-2015, 05:38 PM
Even though I'm sure they had a crew assembling this while they were on the road i'm still impressed that:
1. They actually were able to put this together while on the road and actually get it released. I'm sure they had to listen to tapes and give their final blessings to which recordings were released. I didn't think they had it together enough to actually pull it off while on the road, despite many cooks in the kitchen helping them.
2. Stevie & her camp actually ok'd the release of her songs. Given her protective nature of her past and the preservation of her legacy, I didn't think anything would be released without being completely polished and overhauled/corrected in the studio, which is exactly what they did for the live 80 album! Based on what we hear on Sara - it sounds mostly untouched for the most part.
3. Shocked that they even had tapes in the vault that were able to be mastered for release. I remember years ago Ken Caillat put up a list in his QA of all of the recordings in the vault which he could pull from WB - I don't even recall if Tucson etc were in the vault!
shackin'up
11-05-2015, 06:05 PM
It is the sexiest Sara ever. My goodness how beautiful phrased and paced. The keyboards are spectacular and combined with Lindsey's mournful and emotional endtones this is my favorite version for sure. Tears. Damn wat a singer she was. The way she sings it here, man. Sex on a stick. I'm 15 again.
vivfox
11-05-2015, 06:13 PM
It is the sexiest Sara ever. The way she sings it here, man. Sex on a stick. I'm 15 again.
Great quote, Gerald. In all the bootlegs I have heard I have never heard Lindsey do such a long solo at the end of Sara like he did in Tuscon. Great, great version and crystal clear.
AnthonyMI
11-05-2015, 06:29 PM
I was just listening to Mirage tour Sara and you can tell... they were totally phoning it in compared to the Tusk tour. NO COMPARISON. Im assuming that this LIVE version is not sweetened and the only instruments on it are a piano, guitar, bass and a drum kit. With just those instruments it sounds like an entire orchestra is playing. Anyone know if there were supplemental musicians on this? Lindsey's guitar guy? or someone else on keys?
I also have a 1979 Saint Louis show bootleg... totally different. Great playing, but this blows it away.
Wdm6789
11-05-2015, 06:49 PM
I like this live version, but does anyone else think Christine must have been extra drunk? The piano sounds so off during the "and he was just like a great dark....." And the "hold on the night is coming....." parts. I don't think there is enough piano on this version, everything else kinda drowns it out. They should have turned it up on the soundboard. Everything else sounds awesome though. I like piano heavy Sara performances.
sorcerer999
11-05-2015, 07:05 PM
I like this live version, but does anyone else think Christine must have been extra drunk? The piano sounds so off during the "and he was just like a great dark....." And the "hold on the night is coming....." parts. I don't think there is enough piano on this version, everything else kinda drowns it out. They should have turned it up on the soundboard. Everything else sounds awesome though. I like piano heavy Sara performances.
:nod: The most glaring thing that I noticed is that she plays the wrong chord after Stevie sings "I think I had met my match" but then quickly realizes what she's done and goes back to playing it correctly. It adds a bit of color to the "live experience" and makes me think that they indeed DID NOT do any "touch ups" whilst remastering these tapes...and I'm so thankful! :)
AliceLover
11-05-2015, 07:23 PM
Even though I'm sure they had a crew assembling this while they were on the road i'm still impressed that:
1. They actually were able to put this together while on the road and actually get it released. I'm sure they had to listen to tapes and give their final blessings to which recordings were released. I didn't think they had it together enough to actually pull it off while on the road, despite many cooks in the kitchen helping them.
2. Stevie & her camp actually ok'd the release of her songs. Given her protective nature of her past and the preservation of her legacy, I didn't think anything would be released without being completely polished and overhauled/corrected in the studio, which is exactly what they did for the live 80 album! Based on what we hear on Sara - it sounds mostly untouched for the most part.
3. Shocked that they even had tapes in the vault that were able to be mastered for release. I remember years ago Ken Caillat put up a list in his QA of all of the recordings in the vault which he could pull from WB - I don't even recall if Tucson etc were in the vault!
I'd love to see that list of live recordings in the fault from Ken....
Wdm6789
11-05-2015, 07:25 PM
:nod: The most glaring thing that I noticed is that she plays the wrong chord after Stevie sings "I think I had met my match" but then quickly realizes what she's done and goes back to playing it correctly. It adds a bit of color to the "live experience" and makes me think that they indeed DID NOT do any "touch ups" whilst remastering these tapes...and I'm so thankful! :)
When Stevie goes into the "and he was just like a great dark wing" and "hold on the night is coming" the piano sounds all weird and I can barely heard it. I am not an expert on instrument mechanics, but what it sounds like to me is one of the chords broke in the piano or something and Christine keeps playing it.
Those are my favorite parts of the song, specifically the piano on those two parts of the song. So I'm kinda bummed that the piano sounds so weird in this performance. The live version of Sara was what I was most looking forward to from the deluxe Tusk. I reviewed the track listing multiple times and took note of the asterisks. There doesn't seem to be any out takes or unleaded versions of Sara. There is also not an unreleased version of Sara on the "alternate Tusk."
Alright, update: I just listened to it again, the piano sounds awesome, it could be a little louder, but it sounds great. Except for those two parts. Why did Christine do those all weird in this performance?
shackin'up
11-05-2015, 08:07 PM
Great quote, Gerald. In all the bootlegs I have heard I have never heard Lindsey do such a long solo at the end of Sara like he did in Tuscon. Great, great version and crystal clear.
I played it for the seventh time now, and tear up every single time. The exhausted lush feel of this version is breathtaking. At this moment I can not imagine I heard something more livedthrough, raw and deeply pretty before. And the imperfections simply add to that. And the tones Lindsey plays from 6.30 on are pure gritty melancholy. For now, it is the most beautiful musical thing I have ever experienced.
deribish
11-05-2015, 09:45 PM
Christine is almost playing a guitar part during the "great dark wing" verse parts. It's unlike any version i've ever heard. It's so percussive, full, lush and honest. unlike the current overly produced live version which (apart from Stevie's vocal) feels synthetic and phoned in
Wdm6789
11-05-2015, 10:01 PM
Christine is almost playing a guitar part during the "great dark wing" verse parts. It's unlike any version i've ever heard. It's so percussive, full, lush and honest. unlike the current overly produced live version which (apart from Stevie's vocal) feels synthetic and phoned in
I like the more traditional Sara piano track. I don't understand what's going on with the piano in those two verses. The rest of the song sounds amazing.
Macfanforever
11-05-2015, 10:02 PM
I dont see and links on those sites or I'm blind.
nicole21290
11-05-2015, 10:19 PM
I just bought Sara from iTunes, so that's an option now (at least down here) if you can't stream it...
fleetwoodguy79
11-05-2015, 10:29 PM
This is all far too good to be true! Here I thought that we would never see a release of these live performances, and wow we get the 5.1 mix of the album!? Ken did that YEARS ago! Someone pinch me!
I so also love this version of Sara and it's wonderful to hear a different era of the band on the Tusk tour than what we already have on Live '80 and a few of the soundboard recordings that have been circulating. Absolutely wonderful.
Curious - does anyone have any sound clips of any of the Wembly shows in circulation? I'd be curious to hear a bootleg performance in anticipation of the box set coming in the next few weeks!
Someone already said it here - it's a REALLY cool time to be a fan! :) hope you all are having a great week!
bombaysaffires
11-05-2015, 10:59 PM
there's definitely another guitar in there; it's not just Lindsey. It seems louder than Lindsey's lead. it annoys me. His lead needs to be a lot louder.
jbrownsjr
11-05-2015, 11:42 PM
Wow, I can really feel the strings of the tack piano. Sounds acoustically amazing. Lindsey and Christine are really playing off each other. It's so good!!!! I love how they make it interesting for each other by improvising. Stevie sounds so good. Why did this not go on the live album? I wish they would do more backing vocals.
jbrownsjr
11-06-2015, 12:18 AM
They blew the accompaniment at 2:03.. but like any pro.. you keep going... and that's that...
StreetAngel86
11-06-2015, 03:12 AM
This is so amazing its hard to believe.
Can you imagine next year having the same thing for Mirage. Unheard demos, expanded tracks and a full Mirage tour concert?
Dream on silly dreamer :eek:
OH HELL YESSSSSSSSSS
my fave FM record besides SYW :D:D:D
soooo many outtakes
so many live shows
SOOOOO much to choose from :eek:
Someone will also have to wave a big check at Stevie and Lindsey to motivate them to get off their asses and re-release the Buckingham Nicks album, replete with outtakes, demos and live performance recordings.
MAYBE for their 50th?????
come on people MAKE IT HAPPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN :nod::nod::nod::nod:
goldenground
11-06-2015, 04:08 AM
I absolutely love this live version. The crystal clear quality is just stunning. Although I was expecting that final and soaring 'Sara' near the end, Lindsey's guitar solo more than made up for it :nod:
MoonSister75
11-06-2015, 04:38 AM
For now, it is the most beautiful musical thing I have ever experienced.
I agree. I listened to this many times last night, including just before I went to bed. I felt that as though I'd gone to sleep wrapped up in the sweetest music I'd ever heard. Incredibly gorgeous combination of vocal, piano and guitar arrangement. Fleetwood Mac (this line-up) at it's best.
100X better than the studio version IMHO. This has always been a very special song to me, so to have this version is just wonderful, what a treat!
And I LOVE ALL the imperfections.
I'm now VERY excited to hear the other tracks on the Live CD's :blob2:
shackin'up
11-06-2015, 06:43 AM
there's definitely another guitar in there; it's not just Lindsey. It seems louder than Lindsey's lead. it annoys me. His lead needs to be a lot louder. no. I my opinion it is not an extra guitar. What you hear is what jbrownjr calls 'the strings of the tack piano', I think.
shackin'up
11-06-2015, 06:48 AM
Wow, I can really feel the strings of the tack piano. Sounds acoustically amazing. Lindsey and Christine are really playing off each other. It's so good!!!! I love how they make it interesting for each other by improvising. Stevie sounds so good. Why did this not go on the live album? I wish they would do more backing vocals.
Well, more backingvocals could have caused less focus on the instrumental improvising. I really love the fact that they leave the singing to Stevie this time. She doesn't just sing the song here. She's telling the story as if she's coming to terms with it at the moment she performs it. It's gorgeous to the absolute max.
jbrownsjr
11-06-2015, 10:57 AM
no. I my opinion it is not an extra guitar. What you hear is what jbrownjr calls 'the strings of the tack piano', I think.
Yes, yes yes!!:blob2:
jbrownsjr
11-06-2015, 11:09 AM
Well, more backingvocals could have caused less focus on the instrumental improvising. I really love the fact that they leave the singing to Stevie this time. She doesn't just sing the song here. She's telling the story as if she's coming to terms with it at the moment she performs it. It's gorgeous to the absolute max.
You're right.. I've listened to it again and again.... I miss the days of improv'd music with these guys...
It never really died... swallow all your pride...
shackin'up
11-06-2015, 11:34 AM
You're right.. I've listened to it again and again.... I miss the days of improv'd music with these guys...
It never really died... swallow all your pride...
You know? Normally she irritates the **** out of me when she changes lyrics (Normally to lesser poetics). But the different colors, phrasing, lyrics and tones in this one are giddimn spot on here.
SorcererJP
11-06-2015, 03:31 PM
While commuting to work this morning I discovered that it's on Spotify as well. Have listened to it only headphones a couple of times the train. Tonight I played it a couple times on my Sonos. Somehow it sounds a bit distorted, but still gorgeous. Played it back to back with the known Sara of the live-album and there she sounds a bit more tired or something, her voice is different, arrangements similar but different as well. Looking forward to the rest of the live stuff ...
gldstwmn
11-06-2015, 03:52 PM
Why is there six I Know I'm Not Wrongs? Do we really need six of those? Wait, there's the regular album version and the alternate album version, so eight. Do we really need eight I Know I'm Not Wrongs?
Because Papa was holed up in his house in Brentwood in the bathroom with tons of tile, a microphone gaffer taped to the floor, a drumstick and a Kleenex box on a chair. Not to mention his alt takes on the last Tusk reissue were gorgeous and really shows that if he actually wants, he could make pop music at the levels of anyone in this business today or yesterday. He just finds the idea abhorrent. What I want to know is if there's really a xylophone on That's All For Everyone or is he just fooling us with another instrument. This would make a fantastic Richard Dashut question. Someone please ask. I'm too lazy.
gldstwmn
11-06-2015, 04:05 PM
Because if I'm reading this all correctly then it's my understanding that the format won't work properly in the States. If I'm wrong (and I hope I am) then disregard my comment lol!
Not to mention the shipping cost basically doubles the price
I played the Rolling Stone post of Sara on my '93 era stereo and it sounded crisp, clear and absolutely beautiful FWIW. I played it using iTunes. And I'm picky when it comes to the live shows.
shackin'up
11-06-2015, 07:07 PM
While commuting to work this morning I discovered that it's on Spotify as well. Have listened to it only headphones a couple of times the train. Tonight I played it a couple times on my Sonos. Somehow it sounds a bit distorted, but still gorgeous. Played it back to back with the known Sara of the live-album and there she sounds a bit more tired or something, her voice is different, arrangements similar but different as well. Looking forward to the rest of the live stuff ...
The spotifyversion sounds different. The Mojo version and the iTunes sound more distinctive.
PenguinHead
11-06-2015, 09:03 PM
I recall there being a recent Richard Dashut reference to a 'home studio'.
I wonder whether RD had any involvement in the new Tusk work.
Hmm...normally I would say no. But Richard made a sly reference of being back in LA, and that something was brewing. It's very feasible that he would be asked to assist in the production of this project.
PenguinHead
11-06-2015, 09:24 PM
Very excited about the Alternate Tusk tracks and the Live CD from the Tusk Tour.
Me too! Interesting to see the inclusion of a live version of That's Enough for Me. The only live performance of it that I know of is a one-off bootleg performance in Amsterdam.
bombaysaffires
11-06-2015, 10:09 PM
no. I my opinion it is not an extra guitar. What you hear is what jbrownjr calls 'the strings of the tack piano', I think.
I understand what you're saying. But piano strings resonate, they don't strum. There's a strumming sound in the mix that sounds like either another guitar or an electronic keyboard.
vivfox
11-06-2015, 10:30 PM
Me too! Interesting to see the inclusion of a live version of That's Enough for Me. The only live performance of it that I know of is a one-off bootleg performance in Amsterdam.
That is because we have a bootleg of that performance. It could have easily been performed at multiple shows during that time period.
secondhandchain
11-06-2015, 10:32 PM
Lindsey's got a Gypsy like solo at the ending. Great version of this song. So much improv and wonderful improv at that.
nicole21290
11-19-2015, 02:38 AM
http://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2015/nov/19/fleetwood-mac-tusk-unreleased-alternate-version
Fleetwood Mac – hear an unreleased version of Tusk
We’ve got an alternate version of the brilliant title track from Tusk – have a listen and let us know what you think
http://s9.postimg.org/46x55zkl7/2772.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/46x55zkl7/)
As regular readers of Guardian Music will know, we love our Fleetwood Mac. Specifically, we love the version of Fleetwood Mac whose members did blizzards of cocaine and kept divorcing each other. Imagine our excitement, then, at news of a deluxe edition of Tusk, the bizarre album with which they chose to follow Rumours. The 5CD edition – the one we’re putting on the Christmas list – has the original album, a load of demos, an “Alternate Tusk” album of outtakes, and a double-disc live set from the band’s 1979-80 tour. The 3CD edition dispenses with the live set.
Here, we’ve got the “Alternate Tusk” version of the title track, the bonkers tune for which the group hired the University of Southern California Trojan marching band and recorded them at Dodger Stadium in Los Angeles. But how does this rendition compare? Have a listen and let us know in the comments below.
Sadly, owing to record company restrictions, this recording is only available to hear in the UK.
MoonSister75
11-19-2015, 04:28 AM
^^^ Thanks Nicole :angel:
Just what I needed to hear first thing this morning, after a very weird sleep, and not much of it :shrug:
I guess this will be probably be available in other countries later today, as Sara was.
It's interesting reading some of the comments at the bottom of the article.
Wdm6789
11-19-2015, 07:47 AM
I'm kinda bummed that the only unreleased version of Sara on Tusk Deluxe was the live version we got a few weeks ago. I was hoping there would be an alternate Sara on the "Alternate Tusk" and I was really hoping there was going to be some Sara outtakes, particularly one that was only Christine on piano and Stevie singing. Six freaking outtakes of I Know I'm Not Wrong and five outtakes of Tusk, but not one outtake of Sara?
haleyd
11-19-2015, 09:30 AM
I'm sorry if this is a dumb question, but I'm totally confused... What's the difference between the Expanded and Deluxe versions? And which one are we pre-ordering on Amazon? To me it sounded like there's 5 discs but then I read more and it talks about the track listing for 10 Discs? Can someone explain this to someone who's brain is clearly not working? Thanks!
KarmaContestant
11-19-2015, 11:59 AM
I'm sorry if this is a dumb question, but I'm totally confused... What's the difference between the Expanded and Deluxe versions? And which one are we pre-ordering on Amazon? To me it sounded like there's 5 discs but then I read more and it talks about the track listing for 10 Discs? Can someone explain this to someone who's brain is clearly not working? Thanks!
The DELUXE EDITION delves deep into the vaults with five CDs including the remastered original album, an alternate version of the complete album made up of session outtakes, most of which have never been released, as well as an additional selection of singles, demos and remixes, including an outtake of “Think About Me,” an early version of “That’s Enough For Me” called “Out On The Road,” plus several incarnations of “I Know I’m Not Wrong.”
Also included are two discs loaded with 22 unreleased performances from the band’s 1979 Tusk tour with selections from concerts in London, Tucson, and St. Louis. It includes live versions of album tracks like “Sara, “Over And Over” and “Save Me A Place,” as well as favorites like “Landslide,” “You Make Loving Fun,” “Rhiannon,” “Don’t Stop” and “Go Your Own Way.”
Completing the Deluxe Edition is a 5.1 surround mix of Tusk on DVD-Audio and vinyl of the original album on 2-LPs. The collection comes housed in an elegant box reminiscent of the acclaimed Rumours Deluxe Edition with a booklet that has extended liner notes that feature new interviews with all the band members.
So, the Deluxe is:
*Tusk CD, Remastered
*Tusk CD, Alternate
*Tusk CD, Singles/Outtakes/Rarities
*Tusk CD, Live disc 1
*Tusk CD, Live disc 2
*Tusk DVD, 5.1 surround sound version
*Tusk 2LP, vinyl
The EXPANDED EDITION features 3 CDs including the remastered original album, an alternate version of the complete album made up of session outtakes, most of which have never been released, as well as an additional selection of singles, demos and remixes, including an outtake of “Think About Me,” an early version of “That’s Enough For Me” called “Out On The Road,” plus several incarnations of “I Know I’m Not Wrong.
The expanded is:
*Tusk CD, Remastered
*Tusk CD, Alternate
*Tusk CD, Singles/Outtakes/Rarities
https://www.spincds.com/blog/2015/10/23/fleetwood-mac-tusk-deluxe-expanded-editions/
deribish
11-19-2015, 02:22 PM
new article on TUSK deluxe. plus, NEW LIVE "Tusk"
http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/6769970/fleetwood-mac-tusk-lindsey-buckingham-interview-alternate-song-premiere
It's not that different is it? (just some weird extra background noises and a cool mix)
haleyd
11-19-2015, 07:02 PM
The DELUXE EDITION delves deep into the vaults with five CDs including the remastered original album, an alternate version of the complete album made up of session outtakes, most of which have never been released, as well as an additional selection of singles, demos and remixes, including an outtake of “Think About Me,” an early version of “That’s Enough For Me” called “Out On The Road,” plus several incarnations of “I Know I’m Not Wrong.”
Also included are two discs loaded with 22 unreleased performances from the band’s 1979 Tusk tour with selections from concerts in London, Tucson, and St. Louis. It includes live versions of album tracks like “Sara, “Over And Over” and “Save Me A Place,” as well as favorites like “Landslide,” “You Make Loving Fun,” “Rhiannon,” “Don’t Stop” and “Go Your Own Way.”
Completing the Deluxe Edition is a 5.1 surround mix of Tusk on DVD-Audio and vinyl of the original album on 2-LPs. The collection comes housed in an elegant box reminiscent of the acclaimed Rumours Deluxe Edition with a booklet that has extended liner notes that feature new interviews with all the band members.
So, the Deluxe is:
*Tusk CD, Remastered
*Tusk CD, Alternate
*Tusk CD, Singles/Outtakes/Rarities
*Tusk CD, Live disc 1
*Tusk CD, Live disc 2
*Tusk DVD, 5.1 surround sound version
*Tusk 2LP, vinyl
The EXPANDED EDITION features 3 CDs including the remastered original album, an alternate version of the complete album made up of session outtakes, most of which have never been released, as well as an additional selection of singles, demos and remixes, including an outtake of “Think About Me,” an early version of “That’s Enough For Me” called “Out On The Road,” plus several incarnations of “I Know I’m Not Wrong.
The expanded is:
*Tusk CD, Remastered
*Tusk CD, Alternate
*Tusk CD, Singles/Outtakes/Rarities
https://www.spincds.com/blog/2015/10/23/fleetwood-mac-tusk-deluxe-expanded-editions/
Ok, Thank you so much! I don't know why that was so confusing to me!!!! lol
Ok, Thank you so much! I don't know why that was so confusing to me!!!! lol
you can also order all the same stuff as on 5 CDs for deluxe but as MP3 for $37.99 - someone posted this link much earlier in this thread http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01777NP0A/ref=dm_ws_sp_ps_dp
iamnotafraid
11-19-2015, 07:46 PM
you can also order all the same stuff as on 5 CDs for deluxe but as MP3 for $37.99 -
Don't do it!!!
MP3's say what? You'll miss the reason
this set was released.
Don't do it!!!
MP3's say what? You'll miss the reason
this set was released.
what, WB to make some extra money? ;)
Nicks 2016
11-20-2015, 01:24 AM
Recieved notification today from JB Hi FI that the Australian release has been delayed until 11th December.:shrug:
Nicks 2016
11-20-2015, 02:26 AM
Australia! Listen to an exclusive and unreleased alternate version of ‘Tusk’, taken from the upcoming Tusk releases via Rhythms Magazine. :]:]:]
https://rhythms.com.au/news/fleetwood-mac-deluxe-tusk-stream/
KarmaContestant
11-20-2015, 11:50 AM
Don't do it!!!
MP3's say what? You'll miss the reason
this set was released.
:thumbsup: My thoughts exactly.
olive
11-20-2015, 02:11 PM
what, WB to make some extra money? ;)
exactly!
10 characters
shackin'up
11-20-2015, 05:54 PM
Australia! Listen to an exclusive and unreleased alternate version of ‘Tusk’, taken from the upcoming Tusk releases via Rhythms Magazine. :]:]:]
https://rhythms.com.au/news/fleetwood-mac-deluxe-tusk-stream/
The 'Buck Going Mental' -version.
iamnotafraid
11-21-2015, 03:04 AM
:thumbsup: My thoughts exactly.
Yep.
I'm going to buy Elle the mp3's for Christmas.
And to think in 2015 I'll finally have pristine vinyl of
the Mac's Tusk. Yes!!!
sweetdudejim
11-23-2015, 11:33 PM
Hey there, does anybody know if the "Sisters Of The Moon" remix on disc two is the same as the single version which appeared on the 2004 Tusk remaster?
jessej
11-24-2015, 03:52 AM
I dont know , fingers crossed its different and the live version is kick ass !
SisterNightroad
11-24-2015, 10:17 AM
Ultimate Classic Rock has included the Tusk reissue among the reissues of the year:
Reissue of the Year: 2015 Ultimate Classic Rock Awards
From Bob Dylan and Led Zeppelin to Fleetwood Mac and Bruce Springsteen, the idea behind 2015’s best reissues was to grab a classic album or period (say, Springsteen’s classic The River album from 1980) and add a whole bunch of outtakes, alternate versions and live cuts from the era to document the process of the making of the LP (the Boss even included the original single-record version of the album).
Fleetwood Mac, 'Tusk: Deluxe Edition'
Fleetwood Mac's double-LP 1979 classic is expanded to five CDs with an alternate version of the entire album, demos, outtakes and live performances from the 1979-80 tour.
Read More: Reissue of the Year: 2015 Ultimate Classic Rock Awards | http://ultimateclassicrock.com/2015-ucr-awards-reissue/?trackback=tsmclip
KarmaContestant
11-24-2015, 11:49 AM
Hey there, does anybody know if the "Sisters Of The Moon" remix on disc two is the same as the single version which appeared on the 2004 Tusk remaster?
I don't know, but I sure do wish they'd give us the mix with the end lyric about choices and voices.
jbrownsjr
11-24-2015, 01:24 PM
The 'Buck Going Mental' -version.
And then some!!!!
SisterNightroad
11-24-2015, 03:00 PM
I don't know, but I sure do wish they'd give us the mix with the end lyric about choices and voices.
Yes, I've been wanting that since the first time I've listened to Sisters of the moon 3rd and fourth demo.
KarmaContestant
11-24-2015, 04:44 PM
Yes, I've been wanting that since the first time I've listened to Sisters of the moon 3rd and fourth demo.
Yes! And while I haven't looked at any of the tracklistings for this box, I am going to assume that no Tusk-era versions of Beauty & The Beast or The Dealer are included.
michelej1
11-24-2015, 10:16 PM
Yep.
I'm going to buy Elle the mp3's for Christmas.
I think Elle would prefer compact discs. She likes to collect memorabilia.
Michele
PenguinHead
11-24-2015, 10:25 PM
The price of the Deluxe Tusk reissue is a bit hard to swallow, but being rabid fan, I can not settle for the lesser format versions, sans the live tracks.
I initially was resolved to suck it up and pay full price. I pre-ordered it from my local record store, but there are no obligations for me to purchase it. It was priced at $125.
Looking for better options, I was able to purchase it for $80 with free shipping at Target (with my Target Red Card). By no means am I motivated to endorse any merchandiser, but I just want to share my experience with people who might be daunted by the prospect of shelling out so much cash. 80 bucks is still a lot of money but it's the best deal I've seen so far.
michelej1
11-24-2015, 10:59 PM
[Vote for Best Reissue of the Year]
Reissue of the Year: 2015 Ultimate Classic Rock Awards
By Ultimate Classic Rock Staff November 23, 2015 4:22 PM
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With the golden era of reissues now behind us, and with most of music’s greatest artists from the past now collected on box sets of every size and shape, what’s left? Some of classic rock’s biggest names expanded their back catalogs in 2015 by digging deep in their vaults for new looks at old works.
From Bob Dylan and Led Zeppelin to Fleetwood Mac and Bruce Springsteen, the idea behind 2015’s best reissues was to grab a classic album or period (say, Springsteen’s classic The River album from 1980) and add a whole bunch of outtakes, alternate versions and live cuts from the era to document the process of the making of the LP (the Boss even included the original single-record version of the album).
But which of these 15 reissues was the year’s best? Depends. Do you prefer exhaustive chronicles of a particular period of an artist’s prolific career (see the latest volume of Dylan’s Bootleg Series) or just newly remastered vinyl that reveals fresh perspectives on music that’s now more than 40 years old (see Lynyrd Skynyrd‘s six-LP box set)?
For the next several weeks, your vote counts in the 2015 Ultimate Classic Rock Awards. Vote now for the Reissue of the Year (and all of the other categories while you’re at it). The polls will stay open until 11:59PM ET on Jan. 4, 2016. And you can vote once an hour every day until then, just in case you have some free time during the holidays.
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The Beatles, '1+' 7.79%
David Bowie, 'Five Years: 1969-1973' 1.74%
Bob Dylan, 'The Cutting Edge: 1965-1966'' 2.65%
Fleetwood Mac, 'Tusk: Deluxe Edition' 3.07%
Judas Priest, 'Defenders of the Faith: 30th Anniversary Edition' 6.8%
Led Zeppelin Reissues 20.9%
'Lynyrd Skynyrd' (Six-LP Box) 2.74%
Paul McCartney Deluxe Editions 1.99%
Van Morrison Expanded Reissues 0.66%
Jimmy Page, 'Sound Tracks' 0.17%
The Rolling Stones, 'Sticky Fingers (Deluxe Edition)' 5.47%
Rush Vinyl Reissues 39.72%
Bruce Springsteen, 'The Ties That Bind' 4.64%
The Velvet Underground, 'Loaded: 45th Anniversary Edition' 0.66%
Roger Waters, 'Amused to Death' Expanded Reissue 1%
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Villavic
11-28-2015, 10:12 AM
What about the album in the Fleetwood Mac catalogue that WMG own the rights to that have been completely neglected all together? I'm talking about:
Then Play On (1969)
Kiln House (1970)
Future Games (1971)
Bare Trees (1972)
Penguin (1973)
Mystery To Me (1973)
Heroes Are Hard To Find (1974)
And then from the Buckingham/Nicks era:
Fleetwood Mac Live (1980)
Mirage (1982)
Tango In The Night (1987)
Behind The Mask (1990)
At the Meet&greet, Mick said Tusk is his favorite (band) album. But i think the "White to Tusk" era is the most succesful commercially, so I don't thin the record company will release them. I'd love and still hope to get a deluxe or remastered Tango or Mirage some day (specially Mirage since the cd quality sucks), but I find it very difficult.
Wdm6789
11-28-2015, 11:17 AM
Deluxe Mirage would be awesome. I hope we get this someday. I don't think it's likely, but I'm hopeful. The full set from the Mirage tour would be awesome to have on my iTunes, live Hold Me, I can never have enough live versions of Sara, and live Eyes of The World.
PenguinHead
11-29-2015, 01:13 AM
Yes! And while I haven't looked at any of the tracklistings for this box, I am going to assume that no Tusk-era versions of Beauty & The Beast or The Dealer are included.
How developed did those songs get in the Tusk sessions? Seems like they might have been contenders early on, but were dropped in their rudimentary stage. Then Stevie stashed them in her "vault" for future reference.
All the digs that her 24 Karat Gold songs were "left in the vault for good reason"(inferring that they were substandard) are ignorant, revealing a complete misunderstanding of the creative process.
iamnotafraid
11-29-2015, 01:25 AM
Looking for better options, I was able to purchase it for $80 with free shipping at Target (with my Target Red Card). . 80 bucks is still a lot of money but it's the best deal I've seen so far.
I've seen it at Pop Market for $84.00 with free shipping.
With a coupon code it could be had for 15% less than that.
I'm not sure if they charge tax or not.
____________________________________________
The track listing for the DVD-A is interesting.
Unless the songs are listed twice because of
5.1 or 2.0 options.
If that's not it, would they dare release the
outtakes in 5.1? I doubt it.
PenguinHead
11-29-2015, 01:38 AM
At the Meet&greet, Mick said Tusk is his favorite (band) album. But I think the "White to Tusk" era is the most succesful commercially, so I don't thin the record company will release them. I'd love and still hope to get a deluxe or remastered Tango or Mirage some day (specially Mirage since the cd quality sucks), but I find it very difficult.
I believe that Mirage and Tango will eventually get the deluxe treatment. Fleetwood Mac has massive universal appeal. Yet, despite the all the years the Rumours era band has been together, they haven't been the most productive/prolific band, with only five studio albums to their credit. Mirage and Tango were prominent and successful albums, even if they didn't match the massive commercial success of Rumours.
I see so many deluxe albums being released by groups and artists of lesser stature and/or obscurity. If there is a niche market for these releases, there is certainly a market for Mirage and Tango. It will be interesting to see how the new release of Tusk will be received. Is there the possibility it will make the charts? TUSK IS HERE...AGAIN!
vivfox
11-29-2015, 01:50 PM
I believe that Mirage and Tango will eventually get the deluxe treatment. Fleetwood Mac has massive universal appeal. Yet, despite the all the years the Rumours era band has been together, they haven't been the most productive/prolific band, with only five studio albums to their credit.
Do you think that even if we were lucky enough to have 30 albums from them, their live show would still be the same as it is now?
Macfan4life
11-29-2015, 02:12 PM
I know its expensive but the live tracks are what sold it for me. I wonder how many of these new Tusk editions they will sell? A big seller will make Lindsey so happy. Its Lindsey's, Mick's, and Christine's favorite Mac album.
BTW: I would pay double or triple for Mirage demos, re-mastered tracks, and live tracks
jessej
12-01-2015, 02:46 AM
Was hoping for another track aside from Sara and Tusk before release date ;) .... Oh well , cant wait till friday to download the lot on itunes ! Most excited bout the live tracks
gldstwmn
12-01-2015, 02:30 PM
new article on TUSK deluxe. plus, NEW LIVE "Tusk"
http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/6769970/fleetwood-mac-tusk-lindsey-buckingham-interview-alternate-song-premiere
It's not that different is it? (just some weird extra background noises and a cool mix)
Lindsey sounds like he was having a breakdown here... :sorry: It is a nice crisp mix though.
KarmaContestant
12-01-2015, 07:21 PM
How developed did those songs get in the Tusk sessions? Seems like they might have been contenders early on, but were dropped in their rudimentary stage. Then Stevie stashed them in her "vault" for future reference.
All the digs that her 24 Karat Gold songs were "left in the vault for good reason"(inferring that they were substandard) are ignorant, revealing a complete misunderstanding of the creative process.
Beauty & The Beast was rather far along; the version commonly known as "the blues outtake" is from Tusk. I'm not sure how far they came on The Dealer, but there's a demo out there that sounds great. Both can be heard on YouTube. :)
KarmaContestant
12-02-2015, 02:45 PM
I gave the tracklisting of this box set a good look today, and it's rather disappointing from the perspective of a Stevie fan. In all honesty, were I not getting it as a Christmas gift, I probably would pass at this point.
Any other Stevie fans feeling a bit 'meh' about it?
onlynow
12-03-2015, 12:48 PM
I gave the tracklisting of this box set a good look today, and it's rather disappointing from the perspective of a Stevie fan. In all honesty, were I not getting it as a Christmas gift, I probably would pass at this point.
Any other Stevie fans feeling a bit 'meh' about it?
I am mainly just curious to know if the previously unreleased Beautiful Child version has different lyrics or sounds vastly different.
KarmaContestant
12-03-2015, 02:13 PM
I am mainly just curious to know if the previously unreleased Beautiful Child version has different lyrics or sounds vastly different.
I'm guessing that it's probably not all that different from what we already know and have, but maybe it will be a surprise! :woohoo:
SisterNightroad
12-03-2015, 03:20 PM
Fleetwood Mac, ‘Tusk: Deluxe Edition': Album Review
By Michael Gallucci December 3, 2015 11:25 AM
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Had Fleetwood Mac played it safe after Rumours, they probably could have made another gajillion-selling album. Instead, they handed the reins to singer and guitarist Lindsey Buckingham and allowed him to steer the follow-up to one of the 20th century’s biggest LPs to wherever he wanted (with a few detours along the way).
The result was 1979’s double-LP Tusk, a much-delayed, over-budget and sprawling masterwork that often played out like Fleetwood Mac’s version of the Beatles‘ White Album: three distinct singer-songwriters hashing out their solo compositions while the rest of the group played backing band. And it was, if you believed what you read at the time, a total bomb.
But 36 years later, Tusk stands as one of rock’s most underrated and rewarding albums, a complex and layer-revealing work that offers new perspectives and treasures with each listen. A new five-disc Deluxe Edition doesn’t so much give fresh insight to the record as it provides a behind-the-scenes peek at its formation and development, as well as the occasional struggles the band endured during its long and difficult birth.
The original two-LP set is expanded with discs of single remixes, outtakes, session leftovers, live cuts from the 1979-80 tour in support of the album and the entire record made up of mostly previously unreleased versions of the 20 songs. It’s as often fascinating as it is repetitive: Even for an album built on textures and detailed studio assembling, multiple takes on the title track and “I Know I’m Not Wrong” begin to get tedious after the fourth pass.
Still, alternate versions of “Over & Over” (the ambiance-soaked Christine McVie ballad that opens the album), “The Ledge,” “That’s All for Everyone” and “Brown Eyes” (with early member Peter Green prominently sitting in) show just how meticulous the recordings were … and just how much the band was slowly unraveling. Buckingham is clearly in control here, injecting flashes of weirdness and brilliance into the project. Stevie Nicks‘ contributions tend to be the least affected by his mad-scientist tinkering, but even they go deeper than Rumours‘ most intricate tracks.
Tusk: Deluxe Edition doesn’t show us much in the way of how skeletal demos evolved into multi-layered art pieces, though — it’s not that kind of box. If anything, it leads us to believe that most of these songs were fully structured by the time Fleetwood Mac began recording. And radio mixes of “Think About Me” and “Not That Funny” prove that even after the LP’s release, some cuts took on even newer forms.
It’s a lot to get through — more than 80 songs in all — and parts of it seem like padding (the live tracks, mostly from 1975’s self-titled album, Rumours and Tusk, sound diluted without their studio adornments). But the original album is worth diving into again, if only to revisit one of the era’s most undervalued works, a bold record made by a superstar band willing to risk its place at the top for its art.
Read More: Fleetwood Mac, 'Tusk: Deluxe Edition': Album Review | http://ultimateclassicrock.com/fleetwood-mac-tusk-deluxe/?trackback=tsmclip
Wdm6789
12-03-2015, 05:47 PM
Seriously, it's completely ridiculous they put like seven outtakes of I Know I'm Not Wrong and Tusk in the deluxe package. One of each would have been enough, that's a lot of space they could have used for outtakes and/or alternate versions of other songs. Sara, for instance, the only unreleased version of Sara in the deluxe package is the live track we got a month ago.
BigAl84
12-03-2015, 05:54 PM
You're making a huge assumption that there are a ton of outtakes in the vault they could of used instead. Between this set and the 2004 set, the barrel my be scraped clean.
BigAl84
12-03-2015, 05:57 PM
Oh hey....an entire tusk concert officially released and mostly untouched...c'mon that is one of the biggest gems and surprises to happen in a while.
shackin'up
12-03-2015, 07:14 PM
Oh hey....an entire tusk concert officially released and mostly untouched...c'mon that is one of the biggest gems and surprises to happen in a while.
Absolutely. And Lindsey recorded so much versions of his songs because that is the way he writes them. Recording. I LOVE the fact that we get insight in all those renditions. And I also understand that it is not for everybody. Bad luck. I'm happy.
BigAl84
12-03-2015, 08:21 PM
FYI - you can preview all of the tracks on amazon.co.uk
I was bummed to find out that the autorip mp3 version is only sent to those with UK mailing addresses and credit cards. If you're in the US and ordered off of amazon.co.uk for the better price, you're going to have to wait until the set to arrive in the mail!
bombaysaffires
12-03-2015, 08:35 PM
Seriously, it's completely ridiculous they put like seven outtakes of I Know I'm Not Wrong and Tusk in the deluxe package. One of each would have been enough, that's a lot of space they could have used for outtakes and/or alternate versions of other songs. Sara, for instance, the only unreleased version of Sara in the deluxe package is the live track we got a month ago.
and not really a lot of Angels. Nothing at all on the last Tusk package, though there were versions of all her other songs. I would love to hear her songwriting demo of it that she brought to the band.
Absolutely. And Lindsey recorded so much versions of his songs because that is the way he writes them. Recording. I LOVE the fact that we get insight in all those renditions. And I also understand that it is not for everybody. Bad luck. I'm happy.
Amen to that! This is like a dream come true for my favorite MAC album released as a true "Box Set". After listening to the samples, I know I'm Not Wrong on the alternative disc with Stevie very prominent really gets me excited.
SorcererJP
12-04-2015, 12:30 AM
Tusk de Luxe is in Spotify, as well as the expanded version:
https://open.spotify.com/album/1d075yQcykHjerQ2BN0ABn
SisterNightroad
12-04-2015, 06:57 AM
I also am happy to hear different takes on the same song, but 6 on the same disc is truly a lot even for a fan. It means that of the 22 songs contained on that disc, more than 1/3 of the space is occupied by the same song (even if in different versions).
SisterNightroad
12-04-2015, 08:37 AM
FYI - you can preview all of the tracks on amazon.co.uk
I was bummed to find out that the autorip mp3 version is only sent to those with UK mailing addresses and credit cards. If you're in the US and ordered off of amazon.co.uk for the better price, you're going to have to wait until the set to arrive in the mail!
I just finished listening to the all the previews of the tracks and for now the only one that left me baffled was Dreams live in Wembley...just WTF?
MusicInferno
12-04-2015, 09:50 AM
I love the alternate "Brown Eyes", it's a totally new song.
That "Never Forget" version sounds even better with the "cold" intro instead of the fade-in.
Montclare
12-04-2015, 10:28 AM
Was just looking at the top rock albums on Itunes- Tusk Deluxe is #24. Tusk itself is #117. I didn't even see Rumours on the list. First time I've ever seen Tusk above Rumours.
Josh2003
12-04-2015, 10:34 AM
Does anyone know of any retailers where you can order the physical, deluxe version of the Tusk reissue, that will also allow you to download a digital version of the songs without having to pay for the digital-only version? Warner Brothers did this with 24 Karat Gold...if you bought the physical copy, you could download all the songs the day it was released.
I ask because I would like to physical copy for the LPs, the art, and the discs to listen to in my car (yes, still old school). However, my laptop is newer and does not have a disc drive, leaving me no way to put the songs on my computer or iPhone...and I certainly don't want to pay for both the deluxe version and the digital version.
Thanks!
Aussie W/Heart
12-04-2015, 11:03 AM
Tusk de Luxe is in Spotify, as well as the expanded version:
https://open.spotify.com/album/1d075yQcykHjerQ2BN0ABn
Thanks Sorcerer, so far 3 hours of bliss listening to Tusk de LUXE... i especially loved i think it was the 3rd last Tusk outtake, sounds a lot like Jim Morrison and The Doors influence :D
Every song is just so freaking brilliant :D
MoonSister75
12-04-2015, 01:19 PM
Does anyone know of any retailers where you can order the physical, deluxe version of the Tusk reissue, that will also allow you to download a digital version of the songs without having to pay for the digital-only version? Warner Brothers did this with 24 Karat Gold...if you bought the physical copy, you could download all the songs the day it was released.
I ask because I would like to physical copy for the LPs, the art, and the discs to listen to in my car (yes, still old school). However, my laptop is newer and does not have a disc drive, leaving me no way to put the songs on my computer or iPhone...and I certainly don't want to pay for both the deluxe version and the digital version.
Thanks!
I purchased the physical copy at Amazon, and all the songs are available to listen to and download from my Amazon account today.
Someone mentioned in another thread that they live in the US but ordered from Amazon UK and don't have access to the digital copy, so you would need to make sure you ordered through Amazon US. It should say "includes free MP3 version of this album"
I hope this helps.
Just started working my way through some of the songs this morning, there's certainly enough of them....drowning in the sea of Tusk ;)
Very happy with a version of Beautiful Child, and live Sisters of the Moon.
SisterNightroad
12-04-2015, 01:26 PM
Just started working my way through some of the songs this morning, there's certainly enough of them....drowning in the sea of Tusk ;)
Very happy with a version of Beautiful Child, and live Sisters of the Moon.
Does it include the lyrics of Cecilia at the ending?
MoonSister75
12-04-2015, 02:01 PM
Does it include the lyrics of Cecilia at the ending?
Possibly....I can't actually make out what she is saying at the end. It could be lyrics from Cecilia, but I don't know them well enough of the top of my head. Maybe someone else can confirm this, or I'll maybe I'll work out what she's saying after a few more listens.
SisterNightroad
12-04-2015, 02:15 PM
Possibly....I can't actually make out what she is saying at the end. It could be lyrics from Cecilia, but I don't know them well enough of the top of my head. Maybe someone else can confirm this, or I'll maybe I'll work out what she's saying after a few more listens.
Usually it is something like this:
where are the wild/white birds flown?
have they gone/flown so very far?
no, they're just asleep
therein
MoonSister75
12-04-2015, 02:29 PM
Usually it is something like this:
where are the wild/white birds flown?
have they gone/flown so very far?
no, they're just asleep
therein
Yes that's exactly what she's saying at the end - she sings it twice. It sounds like she sings "white birds" and "flown so very far". Thanks for that, much easier to hear when you can see the words.
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