Fleetwood Mac Life Magazine Special Edition

[Wdm6789]

Apparently it's all about the band. I'm surprised that no one brought it up yet.

[Danielle]

"christineperfekt" shared beautiful pictures on tumblr today:


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[michelej1]

They are great pictures. Thank you. Michele

[jbrownsjr]

Amazing pics!! How can you get a copy of this issue?

[nicole21290]

A number of people managed to find it in Barnes & Noble today, I believe.

[jbrownsjr]

A number of people managed to find it in Barnes & Noble today, I believe.

Thanks! I will go there, today.

[WayOfTheDragon]

I saw it at Barnes and Noble the other day. Lots of good pictures!

[bombaysaffires]

that first pic looks like it might have been taken during the Tusk rehearsals..rehearsals were held in a large soundstage, and there were lots of bicycles around for burning off some energy or boredom during breaks. Both Lindsey's and Stevie's hair are from the Tusk era. The "abc" logo in the background on the fence looks like it was on a studio lot.

[jbrownsjr]

that first pic looks like it might have been taken during the Tusk rehearsals..rehearsals were held in a large soundstage, and there were lots of bicycles around for burning off some energy or boredom during breaks. Both Lindsey's and Stevie's hair are from the Tusk era. The "abc" logo in the background on the fence looks like it was on a studio lot.

Agreed, plus Christine was playing a lot of guitar around that time.

[Wdm6789]

I cannot find the magazine at my Barnes and Noble, does anyone know where it is? I see a life magazine about Abraham Lincoln and one about secret societies, but no Fleetwood Mac. Can anyone help?

[Keith]

I stopped at the market after work and I saw a copy as I was ready to check out. Of course, I bought it not realizing it was all about Fleetwood Mac and $13.99 - just finished it and worth every penny. A very nice surprise this evening.. :nod:

[aleuzzi]

So I bought it tonight at Barnes and Noble. Great photos. Many are new to my eyes.

The text was decent--until it wasn't. Ken Caillat's assessment of Tusk as a musical failure is taken as an unchallenged truth. Likewise, his bashing of Mick, Stevie, and Christine as crazy coke-heads is pretty rude. Carol Ann Harris's Storms is quoted frequently as a reliable, unbiased source. And there are plenty of snide remarks about the band's excesses, courtesy of J.I. Baker, who doesn't have a clear point of view about his subject, alternating between awe and derision.

The text won't do any damage among us hardcore fans. But it will further perpetuate the myths and stereotypes about these musicians in the eyes of the general public. Subpar journalism.

[michelej1]

Wow, we're compiling quite a collection of Lindsey on Bike photos.

Michele

[Sanne2]

So I bought it tonight at Barnes and Noble. Great photos. Many are new to my eyes.

The text was decent--until it wasn't. Ken Caillat's assessment of Tusk as a musical failure is taken as an unchallenged truth. Likewise, his bashing of Mick, Stevie, and Christine as crazy coke-heads is pretty rude. Carol Ann Harris's Storms is quoted frequently as a reliable, unbiased source. And there are plenty of snide remarks about the band's excesses, courtesy of J.I. Baker, who doesn't have a clear point of view about his subject, alternating between awe and derision.

The text won't do any damage among us hardcore fans. But it will further perpetuate the myths and stereotypes about these musicians in the eyes of the general public. Subpar journalism.

Wow that's dissapointing. I still want the magazine for the pictures, I'll be at an airport next week I hope I can find it there.

[wheart]

I found it odd that they used such an old pic as the cover photo, not sure if it's Rumors or Mirage...but a recent photo would have been more appropriate. They're still a working, relevant band. Why freeze them in time like that with a super old photo??

[Wdm6789]

Where is it at in Barnes and Noble? I cannot find it.

[vivfox]

Where is it at in Barnes and Noble? I cannot find it.

In the back of the store.

[gssmith]

Where is it at in Barnes and Noble? I cannot find it.

It is on the left side

[Moz]

Does anyone know if this issue is available in Canada?

[paleshadow]

[QUOTE=wheart;1165517]I found it odd that they used such an old pic as the cover photo, not sure if it's Rumors or Mirage...but a recent photo would have been more appropriate. They're still a working, relevant band. Why freeze them in time like that with a super old photo??[/QUOTET

The back cover had a recent picture, and from what I remember the inside photos went in a chronological order, so it seems like it was purposeful.

[Fannymac]

So I bought it tonight at Barnes and Noble. Great photos. Many are new to my eyes.

The text was decent--until it wasn't. Ken Caillat's assessment of Tusk as a musical failure is taken as an unchallenged truth. Likewise, his bashing of Mick, Stevie, and Christine as crazy coke-heads is pretty rude. Carol Ann Harris's Storms is quoted frequently as a reliable, unbiased source. And there are plenty of snide remarks about the band's excesses, courtesy of J.I. Baker, who doesn't have a clear point of view about his subject, alternating between awe and derision.

The text won't do any damage among us hardcore fans. But it will further perpetuate the myths and stereotypes about these musicians in the eyes of the general public. Subpar journalism.

I found mine at Rite-Aid.

And I agree.....great pictures, lousy copy. It's amazingly biased against the band, particularly from a "life-long fan." And it's not just TUSK that the author slams.....he pretty much says everything after RUMOURS sucked, calling MIRAGE the work of a "tired" Fleetwood Mac "cover band."
I also thought the fact that the majority of quotes were taken from Ken Caillat's and Carol Ann Harris' (VERY biased) books smacked of yellow journalism. In fact, the only real even handed quotes in the entire article seemed to come from Keith Olson.
All in all, nice batch of photos, but the copy shows just how low Life has sunk!

[aleuzzi]

I found mine at Rite-Aid.

And I agree.....great pictures, lousy copy. It's amazingly biased against the band, particularly from a "life-long fan." And it's not just TUSK that the author slams.....he pretty much says everything after RUMOURS sucked, calling MIRAGE the work of a "tired" Fleetwood Mac "cover band."
I also thought the fact that the majority of quotes were taken from Ken Caillat's and Carol Ann Harris' (VERY biased) books smacked of yellow journalism. In fact, the only real even handed quotes in the entire article seemed to come from Keith Olson.
All in all, nice batch of photos, but the copy shows just how low Life has sunk!

Thank you for confirming my reaction. I was beginning to think no one else felt this way. Yeah, the way Mirage and Tango are pretty much written off and even Say You Will is dismissed as "underwhelming." Keith Olsen and Ray Lindsey are the only quoted people without a seeming agenda.

[PenguinHead]

I love seeing pictures of Christine playing guitar. I wonder how good her chops were, and why that side of her was rarely seen in the context of the group. Even Stevie, who has some ability in both guitar and piano, could have contributed something, in a limited capacity, to their live shows back in the day. Her tambourine is more of a visual prop now.

[HomerMcvie]

Even Stevie, who has some ability in both guitar and piano, could have contributed something, in a limited capacity, to their live shows back in the day. Her tambourine is more of a visual prop now.
Sorry, no. She's an amateur at BEST. A world class rock band doesn't let someone who can barely play a chord, perform in front of 20K people. THEY know it. She knows it.

And didn't they used to(still?) tape the jingles on her tambourine down, so they couldn't be heard through her vocal mic?

[cactusjack]

what a load of rubbish. I'm not going to bust a gut to buy this now.

I'm so over Rumours.

[sleepless child]

I found it by accident in the Pittsburgh airport. I was very surprised to see the whole magazine was devoted to the band. I thought it was just going to be an article. a lot of photos we have already seen. a few we haven't. Most of the text is stuff we already know but there are a few quotes from Ken Calliet and Keith Olsen.

[Macfan4life]

Sorry, no. She's an amateur at BEST. A world class rock band doesn't let someone who can barely play a chord, perform in front of 20K people. THEY know it. She knows it.

And didn't they used to(still?) tape the jingles on her tambourine down, so they couldn't be heard through her vocal mic?
I think they only taped the tambourine during the Clinton inauguration or special events :eek:

[Montclare]

And didn't they used to(still?) tape the jingles on her tambourine down, so they couldn't be heard through her vocal mic?

I always found it funny that during EOTW in the Mirage tour, it was clearly Christine that was playing the tambourine, not Stevie.

[HomerMcvie]

I always found it funny that during EOTW in the Mirage tour, it was clearly Christine that was playing the tambourine, not Stevie.

(this is a drummer joke, BUT)

Do you know what you call someone who likes to hang out with musicians?

Stevie!:wavey:

[seekerj]

Sorry, no. She's an amateur at BEST. A world class rock band doesn't let someone who can barely play a chord, perform in front of 20K people. THEY know it. She knows it.

And didn't they used to(still?) tape the jingles on her tambourine down, so they couldn't be heard through her vocal mic?

Hmmm, Christine doesn't agree. From Contemporary Keyboard, 10/1980:

"She isn't a great player, but what she plays you can elaborate on. Still, I think she should play onstage. She's getting better all the time, and if she would play piano on one song, it'd be ****in' great! Then she'd be known as a musician as well as just a singer."

http://bla.fleetwoodmac.net/index.php?page=index_v2&id=11&c=2

And, she sounded just fine playing the acoustic guitar rhythm parts on Go Your Own Way on that Rumours rehearsal tape where eventually Lindsey gives the guitar to Ray. I still wonder why he did that, if maybe his motive wasn't entirely musical.

The Leather And Lace demo with her plucking the guitar was fine, too. Her rhythm guitar on her version of Free Fallin' wasn't terrible, either.

I mean, yeah, she doesn't have the abilities that others with more experience have, but an amateur at best??

She herself has said that she isn't a musician. She uses the instruments for what she needs them for in order to write songs. So if she isn't putting herself in that category, what are you arguing with???? Why are you throwing her into that category and then saying she doesn't belong there??!!!!

[SteveMacD]

Where is it at in Barnes and Noble? I cannot find it.
In the back of the store.
It is on the left side
Just to recap:

It's back and to the left.

Back and to the left.

Back and to the left.

Back and to the left.

[aleuzzi]

Hmmm, Christine doesn't agree. From Contemporary Keyboard, 10/1980:

"She isn't a great player, but what she plays you can elaborate on. Still, I think she should play onstage. She's getting better all the time, and if she would play piano on one song, it'd be ****in' great! Then she'd be known as a musician as well as just a singer."

http://bla.fleetwoodmac.net/index.php?page=index_v2&id=11&c=2

And, she sounded just fine playing the acoustic guitar rhythm parts on Go Your Own Way on that Rumours rehearsal tape where eventually Lindsey gives the guitar to Ray. I still wonder why he did that, if maybe his motive wasn't entirely musical.

The Leather And Lace demo with her plucking the guitar was fine, too. Her rhythm guitar on her version of Free Fallin' wasn't terrible, either.

I mean, yeah, she doesn't have the abilities that others with more experience have, but an amateur at best??

She herself has said that she isn't a musician. She uses the instruments for what she needs them for in order to write songs. So if she isn't putting herself in that category, what are you arguing with???? Why are you throwing her into that category and then saying she doesn't belong there??!!!!

Honestly, the term for Stevie's abilities on guitar and keyboards IS amateur. It's not a slight or dismissal of her abilities as a musician (she is a unique songwriter and equally distinctive singer who can also harmonize like no other). While it is true that she can manage to work her way around a keyboard or guitar to get the right chords for structuring songs, she can't really play either of these instruments beyond base-level proficiency, which is the definition of an amateur.

Moreover, she has a VERY difficult time singing and playing piano at the same time. Whenever she steps towards a piano to accompany herself I want to yell out, Noooooo, don't do it! Her performances of Rhiannon at the piano are embarrassing because she can't get the coordination right to both sing and play at the same time.

All this aside, she has gone far, very far, with what she does know. Her amateur instrumental skills have actually helped her find inventive ways to maneuver for chords, and thus have contributed to her unusual harmonic and melodic styles.

But Christine's 1979 interview is an example of Christine either being magnanimous and/or passive aggressive in a back-handed complement kind of way. The assessment of Stevie's abilities there seems indulgent, a tad condescending, which is how the entire band has made her feel at one time or another. I can't say I really blame them: Stevie has had plenty of time and opportunity to learn an instrument more fluently.

[Montclare]

Hmmm, Christine doesn't agree. From Contemporary Keyboard, 10/1980:

"She isn't a great player, but what she plays you can elaborate on. Still, I think she should play onstage. She's getting better all the time, and if she would play piano on one song, it'd be ****in' great! Then she'd be known as a musician as well as just a singer."

http://bla.fleetwoodmac.net/index.php?page=index_v2&id=11&c=2

And, she sounded just fine playing the acoustic guitar rhythm parts on Go Your Own Way on that Rumours rehearsal tape where eventually Lindsey gives the guitar to Ray. I still wonder why he did that, if maybe his motive wasn't entirely musical.

The Leather And Lace demo with her plucking the guitar was fine, too. Her rhythm guitar on her version of Free Fallin' wasn't terrible, either.

I mean, yeah, she doesn't have the abilities that others with more experience have, but an amateur at best??

She herself has said that she isn't a musician. She uses the instruments for what she needs them for in order to write songs. So if she isn't putting herself in that category, what are you arguing with???? Why are you throwing her into that category and then saying she doesn't belong there??!!!!

Any links to her playing guitar? I've only seen pictures of her with one, never heard her play it.

[Feather Blade]

Just to recap:

It's back and to the left.

Back and to the left.

Back and to the left.

Back and to the left.

*Applause from Kevin Costner* ;)

[PenguinHead]

Honestly, the term for Stevie's abilities on guitar and keyboards IS amateur. It's not a slight or dismissal of her abilities as a musician (she is a unique songwriter and equally distinctive singer who can also harmonize like no other). While it is true that she can manage to work her way around a keyboard or guitar to get the right chords for structuring songs, she can't really play either of these instruments beyond base-level proficiency, which is the definition of an amateur.


I believe if Stevie had the ambition, she could have been a professional musician. But her main focus was to be a singer/songwriter/visual performer. I find her solo outings singing and playing piano to be interesting, but a bit disconcerting. She has found the confidence to do it, but she just doesn't have the chops.

[Frankenstein]

Just got it today. Haven't had time to actually read it but I skimmed through and was disturbed that the section about Chris was titled Enter Christine, Perfectly. :laugh:

[jbrownsjr]

I believe if Stevie had the ambition, she could have been a professional musician. But her main focus was to be a singer/songwriter/visual performer. I find her solo outings singing and playing piano to be interesting, but a bit disconcerting. She has found the confidence to do it, but she just doesn't have the chops.

It takes a lot of practice and patience. I don't think she could go beyond a beginner level. I've heard her piano enough to want her to write the way she knows how. She is much better suited writing the way she started her career.

[PenguinHead]

Just got it today. Haven't had time to actually read it but I skimmed through and was disturbed that the section about Chris was titled Enter Christine, Perfectly. :laugh:

I just got mine today, at a Wallgreen store. Lots of great photos - some that are familiar, and others I've never seen before. The article was a fair assessment, if not a comprehensive compendium of the band's history.

"Consider 1988 to 2013 to be the vacant years for the band. Billy Burnette and Rick Vito, surely capable musicians, joined, and the forgettable Behind the Mask was released in 1990. The equally forgettable Time was released in 1995 with (sorry forgettable) new members Bekka Bramlett on vocals and Dave Mason on guitar."

Though I appreciate and enjoy both of those albums for what they are, I can't strongly dispute those facts. Although many solo albums and several compilations filled those vacant years, it's rather disappointing to be reminded of their scant album output.

Their Dance tour, as well as their two recent live tours have given them paychecks, and have given their fans some great live performances. Yet, they have been resting on those laurels for a very long time. But those shows are a brief moment in time. Those memories fade in time, while their albums become lasting objects of their artistic legacy. I hope the last opportunity they have to give life-long loyal fans one more album of new music isn't lost.

[elle]

"Consider 1988 to 2013 to be the vacant years for the band. Billy Burnette and Rick Vito, surely capable musicians, joined, and the forgettable Behind the Mask was released in 1990. The equally forgettable Time was released in 1995 with (sorry forgettable) new members Bekka Bramlett on vocals and Dave Mason on guitar."

Though I appreciate and enjoy both of those albums for what they are, I can't strongly dispute those facts. Although many solo albums and several compilations filled those vacant years, it's rather disappointing to be reminded of their scant album output.

Their Dance tour, as well as their two recent live tours have given them paychecks, and have given their fans some great live performances. Yet, they have been resting on those laurels for a very long time.

But those shows are of the moment and fade into memories, while their albums become lasting objects of their artistic legacy. I hope the last opportunity they have to give life-long loyal fans one more album of new music isn't lost.

Say You Will was released in 2003. it's their second most progressive album, right after Tusk. i wouldn't consider that part of "vacant years" by any stretch.

[aleuzzi]

I just got mine today, at a Wallgreen store. Lots of great photos - some that are familiar, and others I've never seen before. The article was a fair assessment, if not a comprehensive compendium of the band's history.

"Consider 1988 to 2013 to be the vacant years for the band. Billy Burnette and Rick Vito, surely capable musicians, joined, and the forgettable Behind the Mask was released in 1990. The equally forgettable Time was released in 1995 with (sorry forgettable) new members Bekka Bramlett on vocals and Dave Mason on guitar."

Though I appreciate and enjoy both of those albums for what they are, I can't strongly dispute those facts. Although many solo albums and several compilations filled those vacant years, it's rather disappointing to be reminded of their scant album output.

Their Dance tour, as well as their two recent live tours have given them paychecks, and have given their fans some great live performances. Yet, they have been resting on those laurels for a very long time. But those shows are a brief moment in time. Those memories fade in time, while their albums become lasting objects of their artistic legacy. I hope the last opportunity they have to give life-long loyal fans one more album of new music isn't lost.

I don't think Tusk was artistically disappointing, and the outright dismissal of Mirage and Tango is neither a fair nor accurate assessment. I also agree with Elle--Say You Will, despite the absence of Christine, was still a substantial record--hardly "underwhelming" as said in the article.

I do agree, however, that too many years separate the very few records we do have, and thus the growth and viability of the band as the makers of new music has been seriously undermined by their own lack of sustained effort.

[PenguinHead]

Say You Will was released in 2003. it's their second most progressive album, right after Tusk. i wouldn't consider that part of "vacant years" by any stretch.

Say You Will is certainly the anomaly -- the band's only Buckingham Nicks-like album, released in the "vacant years." Like Tusk, it might get more recognition and appreciation in later years. However it is an easily overlooked album, especially now that Christine is back in the band.

[PenguinHead]

It takes a lot of practice and patience. I don't think she could go beyond a beginner level. I've heard her piano enough to want her to write the way she knows how. She is much better suited writing the way she started her career.

It was implied it would take a lot of dedication to become a professional player and that Stevie never had that ambition. Her skill level is enough for her to form the rudimentary basis of her songs.

[HomerMcvie]

It takes a lot of practice and patience. I don't think she could go beyond a beginner level. I've heard her piano enough to want her to write the way she knows how. She is much better suited writing the way she started her career.

So that's why all her songs are in "F" or "Am"?:lol:

Oh wait, there are other issues...

#range

[nicole21290]

Well, fans aren't the only ones who thought it wasn't exactly fantastic...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just read the Life Magazine article on Fleetwood Mac.I was there.(Although you wouldn't know it from reading life.)Tabloid crap!Really Ken??</p>&mdash; Richard Dashut (@RichardDashut) <a href="https://twitter.com/RichardDashut/status/598733183706730497">May 14, 2015</a></blockquote>
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[Danielle]

Well, fans aren't the only ones who thought it wasn't exactly fantastic...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just read the Life Magazine article on Fleetwood Mac.I was there.(Although you wouldn't know it from reading life.)Tabloid crap!Really Ken??</p>&mdash; Richard Dashut (@RichardDashut) <a href="https://twitter.com/RichardDashut/status/598733183706730497">May 14, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Oddly enough, Christine called it "wonderful" on her IG account. :shrug: Maybe whoever is behind her account didn't take the time to read it.

[jbrownsjr]

It was implied it would take a lot of dedication to become a professional player and that Stevie never had that ambition. Her skill level is enough for her to form the rudimentary basis of her songs.

I disagree, it takes more than dedication and ambition to be good. Her skill level on the piano pushing a chord. It's not that difficult. I think she's tried both guitar and piano and knows she's just not cut out for it. (This was way back in the early to mid 70's.)

Her singing at the piano in the recent RS posts sound horrible to me as well.
I love her singing with an ensemble.

I look at someone like Joni Mitchell who wasn't trained in notes, chords or tunings.. She just picks up a guitar and naturally knows what she wants out of it. Not a lifetime of dedication or practice. Much like Lindsey, she's a natural. Stevie isn't.

[bombaysaffires]

Well, fans aren't the only ones who thought it wasn't exactly fantastic...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just read the Life Magazine article on Fleetwood Mac.I was there.(Although you wouldn't know it from reading life.)Tabloid crap!Really Ken??</p>&mdash; Richard Dashut (@RichardDashut) <a href="https://twitter.com/RichardDashut/status/598733183706730497">May 14, 2015</a></blockquote>
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well we knew by his own accounts that Richard feels his role as a producer has been marginalized by Lindsey, and now, perhaps also by Ken (I don't know what Ken is quoted as saying in the article). By writing his book, Ken has gotten his version of his role in producing FM music on record. Other than his obvious credits on the albums and the Grammy on his shelf at home, the specifics of Richard's contributions to the process remain ill-defined. This seems to bother him a lot. He clearly feels dissed by LB whom he feels has at best minimized and at worst completely dismissed his contributions. And this may have some truth to it. Ken also hasn't really said a whole lot to illuminate just what Richard's role was. Richard could rectify this by telling his own story.:shrug:

He also contributed to his own situation by not going on to establish his credentials outside of FM and turning down chances to work with other bands or other producers (Ken went on to produce other major acts, and, both Ken and Jimmy Iovine asked Richard to work with them). It seems he turned much of that work down out of a sense of loyalty to LB, a sense of loyalty that perhaps was not reciprocated.... hence his feeling of being somewhat discarded or pushed aside. Again, that may be true, and his loyalty may have been misguided, but nevertheless nothing purely "happens" to us, we usually in some way contribute. Maybe he naively thought his relationship with LB would remain the same forever and ever.... maybe, because of his admitted self-esteem issues, he didn't have the self-confidence to take on other jobs. :shrug:

He should either just write the damn book telling his version of events, without bitterness, just record his memories....or let it go. Even in his current more mellow approach to life I don't see LB doling out much credit to others regarding production and arrangement of FM songs. His own need for recognition in doing that overshadows that. Richard seems like he's somehow just waiting for Lindsey to "speak the truth" about Richard's role, and I just don't see that happening. He either needs to get it out of his system and document it somehow, which is kinda what the blog seemed to be to me, or move on.

[elle]

The text was decent--until it wasn't. Ken Caillat's assessment of Tusk as a musical failure is taken as an unchallenged truth. Likewise, his bashing of Mick, Stevie, and Christine as crazy coke-heads is pretty rude. Carol Ann Harris's Storms is quoted frequently as a reliable, unbiased source. And there are plenty of snide remarks about the band's excesses, courtesy of J.I. Baker, who doesn't have a clear point of view about his subject, alternating between awe and derision.

The text won't do any damage among us hardcore fans. But it will further perpetuate the myths and stereotypes about these musicians in the eyes of the general public. Subpar journalism.

And I agree.....great pictures, lousy copy. It's amazingly biased against the band, particularly from a "life-long fan." And it's not just TUSK that the author slams.....he pretty much says everything after RUMOURS sucked, calling MIRAGE the work of a "tired" Fleetwood Mac "cover band."
I also thought the fact that the majority of quotes were taken from Ken Caillat's and Carol Ann Harris' (VERY biased) books smacked of yellow journalism. In fact, the only real even handed quotes in the entire article seemed to come from Keith Olson.
All in all, nice batch of photos, but the copy shows just how low Life has sunk!

Thank you for confirming my reaction. I was beginning to think no one else felt this way. Yeah, the way Mirage and Tango are pretty much written off and even Say You Will is dismissed as "underwhelming." Keith Olsen and Ray Lindsey are the only quoted people without a seeming agenda.

I found it by accident in the Pittsburgh airport. I was very surprised to see the whole magazine was devoted to the band. I thought it was just going to be an article. a lot of photos we have already seen. a few we haven't. Most of the text is stuff we already know but there are a few quotes from Ken Calliet and Keith Olsen.

I just got mine today, at a Wallgreen store. Lots of great photos - some that are familiar, and others I've never seen before. The article was a fair assessment, if not a comprehensive compendium of the band's history.

"Consider 1988 to 2013 to be the vacant years for the band. Billy Burnette and Rick Vito, surely capable musicians, joined, and the forgettable Behind the Mask was released in 1990. The equally forgettable Time was released in 1995 with (sorry forgettable) new members Bekka Bramlett on vocals and Dave Mason on guitar."

Well, fans aren't the only ones who thought it wasn't exactly fantastic...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just read the Life Magazine article on Fleetwood Mac.I was there.(Although you wouldn't know it from reading life.)Tabloid crap!Really Ken??</p>&mdash; Richard Dashut (@RichardDashut) <a href="https://twitter.com/RichardDashut/status/598733183706730497">May 14, 2015</a></blockquote>
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guess Richard Dashut didn't like what Ken Caillat had to say, and agreed with all of you who read the text and thought it was biased against the band. :shrug:


my disclosure - i haven't looked for the magazine (no interest in collectibles such as physical pics, text, etc about the band), so i can't judge what the text actually said.

[elle]

a series of tweets from RD's ex-assistant Stacy -


@Stacy_B · 3 hours ago
Don't believe everything you read.
With that being said, the LIFE magazine edition on FM is complete BS.

@Stacy_B · 2 hours ago
Literally bullsh*t. All of it, bunch of lies. Trust me, I know what the heck happened in the 70's-90's w/ FM & Richard. That story is a lie.

@Stacy_B · 2 hours ago
@kenboggle well, Ken did a Ken again & threw everyone under the bus but made himself look like the important guy who did all the work. LIES.

@Stacy_B · 2 hours ago
@sherrisurfs76 its cool to see them on the cover & all but totally not cool to have your best friend & collaborator talked down on publicly.

@Stacy_B · 2 hours ago
Okay, rant over.
I just wanted to clear the air, but if you'd been following the blog, you already know the truth ;)

[SpyNote]

He should either just write the damn book telling his version of events, without bitterness, just record his memories....or let it go. Even in his current more mellow approach to life I don't see LB doling out much credit to others regarding production and arrangement of FM songs. His own need for recognition in doing that overshadows that. Richard seems like he's somehow just waiting for Lindsey to "speak the truth" about Richard's role, and I just don't see that happening. He either needs to get it out of his system and document it somehow, which is kinda what the blog seemed to be to me, or move on.

Seriously. He's going about all this the wrong way. Write the damn book or move on!

[SpyNote]

a series of tweets from RD's ex-assistant Stacy -


@Stacy_B · 3 hours ago
Don't believe everything you read.
With that being said, the LIFE magazine edition on FM is complete BS.

@Stacy_B · 2 hours ago
Literally bullsh*t. All of it, bunch of lies. Trust me, I know what the heck happened in the 70's-90's w/ FM & Richard. That story is a lie.

@Stacy_B · 2 hours ago
@kenboggle well, Ken did a Ken again & threw everyone under the bus but made himself look like the important guy who did all the work. LIES.

@Stacy_B · 2 hours ago
@sherrisurfs76 its cool to see them on the cover & all but totally not cool to have your best friend & collaborator talked down on publicly.

@Stacy_B · 2 hours ago
Okay, rant over.
I just wanted to clear the air, but if you'd been following the blog, you already know the truth ;)

She seems a little bitter. Just an observation.

[Frankenstein]

a series of tweets from RD's ex-assistant Stacy -


Ex-assistant??

[PenguinHead]

I disagree, it takes more than dedication and ambition to be good. Her skill level on the piano pushing a chord. It's not that difficult. I think she's tried both guitar and piano and knows she's just not cut out for it. (This was way back in the early to mid 70's.)

Her singing at the piano in the recent RS posts sound horrible to me as well.
I love her singing with an ensemble.

I look at someone like Joni Mitchell who wasn't trained in notes, chords or tunings.. She just picks up a guitar and naturally knows what she wants out of it. Not a lifetime of dedication or practice. Much like Lindsey, she's a natural. Stevie isn't.

You're right. Dedication and ambition has its limits when you don't have the intrinsic natural talent. It's fine that Stevie uses her limited instrumental skills to construct her songs, but when she goes public with them, she doesn't do herself any favors. But I admire her attempts. Time makes her bolder.

[aleuzzi]

well we knew by his own accounts that Richard feels his role as a producer has been marginalized by Lindsey, and now, perhaps also by Ken ... Other than his obvious credits on the albums and the Grammy on his shelf at home, the specifics of Richard's contributions to the process remain ill-defined. This seems to bother him a lot. He clearly feels dissed...

He should either just write the damn book telling his version of events, without bitterness, just record his memories....or let it go. Even in his current more mellow approach to life I don't see LB doling out much credit to others regarding production and arrangement of FM songs. His own need for recognition in doing that overshadows that. Richard seems like he's somehow just waiting for Lindsey to "speak the truth" about Richard's role, and I just don't see that happening. He either needs to get it out of his system and document it somehow, which is kinda what the blog seemed to be to me, or move on.

What is interesting here is how similar Richard's feelings, as you aptly explain them, resemble Bob Welch's. You change Lindsey to Fleetwood and the McVies, and Rumours to 1971-74 and you've got pretty much the same thing going on.

[elle]

well we knew by his own accounts that Richard feels his role as a producer has been marginalized by Lindsey, and now, perhaps also by Ken (I don't know what Ken is quoted as saying in the article).

i never got that vibe from Richard or his blog, where did you see this?

there were tweets from Stacy after one of LB's interviews (Andy Greenwald podcast i believe) complaining that Lindsey didn't talk about Richard in that interview. that is all. in his blog or tweets Richard never said anything like that, just the opposite.

unlike Lindsey, Richard actually has producer credits on Rumours.

[bombaysaffires]

i never got that vibe from Richard or his blog, where did you see this?

there were tweets from Stacy after one of LB's interviews (Andy Greenwald podcast i believe) complaining that Lindsey didn't talk about Richard in that interview. that is all. in his blog or tweets Richard never said anything like that, just the opposite.

unlike Lindsey, Richard actually has producer credits on Rumours.

on his blog mostly.....which I can't go back to and quote to you :(

one in particular i recall was after the podcast aired, with its discussion of making Tusk, a comment to the effect of yes I was there too remember i was the guy on the other end of the talk-back mic... I just remember it because the line about the talk-back mic was so pointed. eta: the recent twitter exchange with Ken, where Ken essentially responds that he wasn't deliberately leaving out Richard. something like "i tell the reporters when I say "I" I mean "Dashut and I"

[elle]

on his blog mostly.....which I can't go back to and quote to you :(

one in particular i recall was after the podcast aired, with its discussion of making Tusk, a comment to the effect of yes I was there too remember i was the guy on the other end of the talk-back mic... I just remember it because the line about the talk-back mic was so pointed. eta: the recent twitter exchange with Ken, where Ken essentially responds that he wasn't deliberately leaving out Richard. something like "i tell the reporters when I say "I" I mean "Dashut and I"

it's interesting because again - both Ken and Richard actually HAVE producing credit on Tusk (same as Rumours). neither one of them has to prove that they were actually producing it, it's all right there in the liner notes etc. and they are getting producing money for these albums, whatever that is (didn't SN once said how that's large chunk?).

LB does not have producing credit (by name) on Rumours, or Tusk (where he does have special thanks). for LB, all we have is what he and others say he did on those albums, production-wise. RD and KC are listed by name as producers.

http://www.discogs.com/Fleetwood-Mac-Tusk/release/2089217

[michelej1]

it's interesting because again - both Ken and Richard actually HAVE producing credit on Tusk (same as Rumours). neither one of them has to prove that they were actually producing it, it's all right there in the liner notes etc. and they are getting producing money for these albums, whatever that is (didn't SN once said how that's large chunk?).

http://www.discogs.com/Fleetwood-Mac-Tusk/release/2089217

She said that Lindsey gets producing money, which is why he has so much of it -- and I have no doubt that he does -- at least from Tusk on -- whatever the liner notes say.

Michele

[elle]

She said that Lindsey gets producing money, which is why he has so much of it -- and I have no doubt that he does -- at least from Tusk on -- whatever the liner notes say.

Michele

interesting, i was wondering how that works - can someone who is not officially a producer be getting "producing money"? my assumption would be whoever is listed as a producer (on all docs, contracts, liner notes, etc) would be getting whatever producing money is, and that's it.

[Street_Dreamer]

Anyone else see this? I picked up a copy today. Just thumbing through it, seems like the same old same old rehashing of everything, specifically the Rumours album. Unsurprisingly, everything after Lindsey leaving is glossed over and given a few pithy (and disrespectful) comments.

[Macfanforever]

I got my copy about a month in a half ago at my local ShopRite supermarket at the cash out line.

I have not have a chance to read it but I glance at the pix.

As of now. They soldout of the FM book.

I was at Walmart last night and they have a RS "Rollingstone" special book of U2 for the same ripoff price of the FM Life book.