Unpopular Stevie opinions

[Artemis]

What opinions do you have about Stevie which generally are pretty unpopular / others won't neccessarily agree with? I had this idea earlier in the day while listening to The Wild Heart. I know everyone obsesses over the dressing room version, but, I think the studio version is sublime (even when she's ranting about angels and children) and the superior version.

Others I thought of...

The original version of Silver Springs (chorus of Stevie's et all) is the best. It beats The Dance one hands down.

TOSOTM and SA should basically not exist. Terrible albums with a handful of good songs.

The best version of Twisted is on 24 Karat Gold.

Stevie's songs saved SYW from being terrible, and Silver Girl isn't all that bad either.

Moonlight > Lady From The Mountains.

Do you guys have any unpopular opinions on Stevie?

[michelej1]

Silver Springs on The Dance wasn't that special. The song was much more rousing and dynamic on the actual tour.

Michele

[Macfan4life]

Sure I have unpopular or unconventional opinions that maybe are not the majority opinions here.

I love Street Angel
I don't care for TISL
I love TOSOTM
I don't care for 24 K gold but I like the original demos better (especially all the beautiful worlds)
I like the pre-Betty Ford clinic Stevie the most
Most of Rock a little does not appeal to me
I love Sometimes Its a Bitch and Desert Angel


LOL am I right? These opinions are unpopular here LOL :)

[Frankenstein]

I Will Run To You is far superior to SDMHA.

I've never really liked any of Stevie's music videos.

Watch Chain is one of the best songs on 24KG.

Gate and Garden is a good song.

Moonlight is not a bad song but I really wish she would have recorded it just like the demo or have left it in the vault.

I hated Stevie's hair from RAL until SA :D

She Loves Him Still and Hard Advice are about Joe Walsh (is that an unpopular opinion?)

The Practical Magic version of Crystal is my favorite.

That's all I have for now, I'll probably think of more later...

[Macfan4life]

I Will Run To You is far superior to SDMHA.

I've never really liked any of Stevie's music videos.

Watch Chain is one of the best songs on 24KG.

Gate and Garden is a good song.

Moonlight is not a bad song but I really wish she would have recorded it just like the demo or have left it in the vault.

I hated Stevie's hair from RAL until SA :D

She Loves Him Still and Hard Advice are about Joe Walsh (is that an unpopular opinion?)

The Practical Magic version of Crystal is my favorite.

That's all I have for now, I'll probably think of more later...
You are right. The Practical Magic version of Crystal is amazing. One of the few remakes that is better IMHO of course ;)

[WildHeart97]

I love TOSOTM and RAL (RAL's my second favorite album, and I love every track)
I love Stevie's versions of I Still Miss Someone and Just Like a Woman
I love Too Far From Texas, That Made Me Stronger, Kick It, and Gate and Garden.
I like IYD, but it's my second least favorite album of hers (after Street Angel).
I love the new tracks on Timespace.

[WildHearted]

Others I thought of...

The original version of Silver Springs (chorus of Stevie's et all) is the best. It beats The Dance one hands down.


I agree with this. In fact, the original SS is one of my fav Stevie/FM recordings ever.


I so do love the 24 KG version of Twisted, but the Twister soundtrack version is still my fav.

[sorcerer999]

The original version of Silver Springs (chorus of Stevie's et all) is the best. It beats The Dance one hands down.


I love TOSOTM

I like the pre-Betty Ford clinic Stevie the most



Watch Chain is one of the best songs on 24KG.

Gate and Garden is a good song.

I hated Stevie's hair from RAL until SA :D

The Practical Magic version of Crystal is my favorite.

^^^ I agree wholeheartedly with EVERY one of these statements!!!

I'll add that I think TISL is far superior to IYD and that 24KG is superior to both (How's THAT for a very unpopular opinion? :laugh:)

[jrpjr]

All of her videos are horrible. "Talk to me" is the only one that is watchable. You would think that during that time, the mid 80's, when it was all about "the video," Stevie would have put some thought into making a KILLER video for some of her singles. The "Stand Back" video???? That could have been made to be a classic. "Gypsy " is sooooooooooooo good, I'm surprised she didn't use the same production people to do something for her solo stuff.

[StreetAngel86]

TOSOTM and SA should basically not exist. Terrible albums with a handful of good songs.


These are 2 of Stevie's BEST albums :nod:

I don't like 70s/early 80s Stevie's voice

[SisterNightroad]

I don't know if these are truly unpopular, but:

1) I find the 1983 Landover video performance much better than the Us festival one

2) I think the album version of Sara is much better than any live rendition

3) I don't like The other side of the mirror (yet)

[TheWILDheart]

I'm not keen on OSOTM and really dislike 24KG, but I love Street Angel.

Pretty much all of Stevie's cover songs suck, except "Free Fallin'"

Red Rocks is TERRIBLE.

I find most of Stevie's album covers boring as hell and in some cases, WTF? TISL being the exception.

The Chris Lord-Alge single remix of Blue Denim is better than both the album version and Enchanted version.

I honestly cannot remember the last time I listened to the studio version of "Edge of Seventeen", but I have 30-odd live versions that are in heavy rotation.

I absolutely love "Gate & Garden", "No Questions Asked" and "Paper Doll" which always seem to get a lot of hate.

"When I See You Again" is the worst Mac Stevie song.

[sorcerer999]

Red Rocks is TERRIBLE.

"When I See You Again" is the worst Mac Stevie song.

I don't think either of these are really "unpopular opinions". I think MOST people here would agree with you. :nod::laugh:

[redbird]

I love "Too Far From Texas", and (I don't know if this is as unpopular, but maybe) the Sheryl Crow songs on Trouble in Shangri-La are 4 of my 7 favorite tracks off of it, and there's only one song on that album that Crow produced that I don't like ("That Made Me Stronger", which I don't like because of the lyrics). I think Sheryl's smokey So-Cal cowgirl thing worked really well for Stevie.

I like Trouble much more than In Your Dreams, but I don't know if that's incredibly unpopular.

I never liked any "Crystal".

Oh, and I think "Affairs of the Heart" is okay and "Paper Doll" and "No Questions Asked" are quite enjoyable.

[michelej1]

I love "Too Far From Texas", .

I like it, too and when I first got the album, I liked it most. But that changed over the next 2 years. I still like TFFT, but it's like #7 for me on TISL, not #1.

Michele

[SisterNightroad]

You can count me too am0ng those that love Too far from Texas!
And also, Rumours Silver Springs is the best for me too.

[louielouie2000]

1) I think the Wild Heart album is awful.
2) I really dig the back to basics rock sound of the Street Angel album.
3) I also agree that the Practical Magic Crystal is the best Crystal.
4) I don't want Dave Stewart anywhere near a FM album, even if it's just to produce Stevie's songs.
5) I'm ready for Stevie to retire her solo career, and dedicate her remaining years to FM.
6) The vocal coach Stevie has used the past 2 decades totally destroyed the quality of Stevie's voice. She belts/shouts everything now, and there is no nuance left to her voice, and her gorgeous tone has been ruined.
7) I would prefer Stevie never tour again- I'd much rather her put time into recording.
8) I respect Lindsey as an artist more than I do Stevie.
9) Everyone around here is always harping about Stevie wearing color- but I prefer Stevie in black.
10) The whole Stevie/Lindsey romance thing is played out, and I have zero interest in it. In fact, the focus on it rather angers me.

[johnnystorms]

1) I think the Wild Heart album is awful.
2) I really dig the back to basics rock sound of the Street Angel album.
3) I also agree that the Practical Magic Crystal is the best Crystal.
4) I don't want Dave Stewart anywhere near a FM album, even if it's just to produce Stevie's songs.
5) I'm ready for Stevie to retire her solo career, and dedicate her remaining years to FM.
6) The vocal coach Stevie has used the past 2 decades totally destroyed the quality of Stevie's voice. She belts/shouts everything now, and there is no nuance left to her voice, and her gorgeous tone has been ruined.
7) I would prefer Stevie never tour again- I'd much rather her put time into recording.
8) I respect Lindsey as an artist more than I do Stevie.
9) Everyone around here is always harping about Stevie wearing color- but I prefer Stevie in black.
10) The whole Stevie/Lindsey romance thing is played out, and I have zero interest in it. In fact, the focus on it rather angers me.

you're breaking my "Wild Heart" louie2K!!
1. I love me some WH, to me it's the seminal Stevie solo record
6. her vocals on the recording of IYD n 24K seem to recapture a bit of the nuance.. especially the breathiness and falsetto - flirting... though the touring voice is indeed too harsh for my taste.. I think the last great touring vocals were SA/Dance/ and Enchanted
9. she is striking in black, but I absolutely worship her in Ivory ala the Sorcerer video! I also think she is stunning in the wine-y/red colors and I would kill to see her rocking a rich chocolate brown palette

[redbird]

I like it, too and when I first got the album, I liked it most. But that changed over the next 2 years. I still like TFFT, but it's like #7 for me on TISL, not #1. I think it's tied in the middle of the pack for me (and I only ever listen to seven songs off that album anyway, but I so love those seven songs). It's just a simple cowboy song, but I always liked Stevie's country side.

Re. The Wild Heart, the synths are just too much for me but I like the songs underneath for the most part.

[bombaysaffires]

Red Rocks is TERRIBLE.

The Chris Lord-Alge single remix of Blue Denim is better than both the album version and Enchanted version.



Amen to both of these!

Also agree the FM version (B-side of GYOW) is the best, best version of Silver Springs.

I think Stevie squandered her talent (most especially her voice) for bullsht partying and it pisses me off.

Her voice hasn't been great for years. Her voice now can't hold a candle to her mid 70s to about 1982/3 voice.

I think she can be a TOTAL b*tch when she puts her mind to it, and I think she puts her mind to it way more than people here think.

I think she and Lindsey personally can't be in room together for very long before a fight of some sort breaks out.

I wouldn't be surprised if she hooked up with John. :eek:

[Macfanforever]

Since I'm a mellow light rock person.I know I beached about Stevie's You Can't Fix This 100 times on here .I'll give it another chance if there is a remix to mellow the noise down for I can hear Stevie instead of the racket of noise.I love to find the stems for the song.

Ooh Some of the comments hurt here almost like my two bee stings I received this week.Everybody has a right to give a opinion on things.

More likely I enjoy the rest of her work and FM's work.

[cactusjack]

All of her videos are horrible. "Talk to me" is the only one that is watchable. You would think that during that time, the mid 80's, when it was all about "the video," Stevie would have put some thought into making a KILLER video for some of her singles. The "Stand Back" video???? That could have been made to be a classic. "Gypsy " is sooooooooooooo good, I'm surprised she didn't use the same production people to do something for her solo stuff.

aren't Talk To Me, I Can't Wait, Sometimes It's A Bitch basically the same video?

[jrpjr]

aren't Talk To Me, I Can't Wait, Sometimes It's A Bitch basically the same video?

hahaha. Yes, you are correct. Pefect examples, zero brainstorming. Such a shame as her record sales began to drop, a good video certainly would have/could have boosted sales. Visuals stay in your mind. But I'm not Stevie's marketing person, but if I had been..................

[StreetAngel86]

4) I don't want Dave Stewart anywhere near a FM album, even if it's just to produce Stevie's songs.


PREACH:nod:


5) I'm ready for Stevie to retire her solo career, and dedicate her remaining years to FM.


I would rather her quit FM and focus her remaining years on getting out Vaults 2 and 3 and touring for those

[On Ice]

Great Thread!

My #1 is that Stevie is billed as a living legend. One common thread throughout her career is that she has been consistently inconsistent. She's only written and released a handful of truly classic songs and possessed a truly killer voice for 4 short years. Disclaimer: Love her to bits despite all of the flaws (deeply rooted to boot)

#2 That her concerts are wonderful. As with #1, she has truly shone at a handful of concerts others she has been non-present or having lots of voice issues.

#3 That Edge of Seventeen is great live: I haven't yet heard a live version that comes close to the studio. I remember hearing WWD concert video and thinking wtf has she lowered the just like the white winged dove, as with dreams live, the lowering zaps the song of its power.

#4 Street Angel has some of her strongest vocals: This period showed promise for her voice, powerful, lush and with awesome tone. The way she showed up for Rick Vito's Desiree was just stellar and I remember thinking, she's back!

#5 That bringing out Beautiful Child and Storms was a bold move. To me, both of these amazing songs fell flat on latter year Mac tours and she really ought to have bowed out of both of these tours because she was not on in her game.

[On Ice]

Agree totally:
Amen to both of these!

Also agree the FM version (B-side of GYOW) is the best, best version of Silver Springs.

I think Stevie squandered her talent (most especially her voice) for bullsht partying and it pisses me off.

Her voice hasn't been great for years. Her voice now can't hold a candle to her mid 70s to about 1982/3 voice.

I think she can be a TOTAL b*tch when she puts her mind to it, and I think she puts her mind to it way more than people here think.

I think she and Lindsey personally can't be in room together for very long before a fight of some sort breaks out.

I wouldn't be surprised if she hooked up with John.

[SisterNightroad]

I think Stevie squandered her talent (most especially her voice) for bullsht partying and it pisses me off.

Her voice hasn't been great for years. Her voice now can't hold a candle to her mid 70s to about 1982/3 voice.

I think she can be a TOTAL b*tch when she puts her mind to it, and I think she puts her mind to it way more than people here think.

I think she and Lindsey personally can't be in room together for very long before a fight of some sort breaks out.

I wouldn't be surprised if she hooked up with John. :eek:

These aren't "Unpopular Stevie opinions", these are exactly the very same things all fans keep complaining about since the dawn of time.

[KarmaContestant]

*Street Angel is a great album
*It's time to say goodbye to the Fleetwood Mac tour machine and spend time recording and releasing music. Probably not that unpopular of an opinion.
*I Will Run To You is better than SDMHA
*Stevie is generally awful when performing live in concert (there are stellar moments - but I said "generally")

[michelej1]

1) 9) Everyone around here is always harping about Stevie wearing color- but I prefer Stevie in black.


Well, that's a new one. I don't mind the black now, but if she'd only worn black in the early days I think that would have been AWFUL and I would have missed all the colors we have in the past photos. But for today's Stevie, I don't care. Even if she only wears black, she could change up the cut, though.

Michele

[Macfanforever]

I agree with Louie2K. I like her in black.She the woman in black like Johnny Cash was the man in black.

The problem with SDMHA live is I rather hear Tom's parts from Tom only.

[editme2]

Great thread.....I love Stevie and all her faults, but here are a few of my unpopular opinions:

1. Stevie is good songwriter, but she has "borrowed" many of her best lines from the poetry and prose of other people—without giving proper credit.

2. Stevie isn't that great live anymore. Everything is choreographed. No spontaneity. Same setlist year after year. Boring.

3. Stevie isn't the Queen of Rock. That title belongs to Joan Jett. She may not share Stevie's popularity, but she's a better performer and she truly lives and breathes rock 'n' roll. Just watch her recent induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

4. Stevie hasn't written a truly great song since "Wild Heart."

5. Stevie is prone to exaggeration. What would be considered normal, minor pain and discomfort for us regular folks is seen as traumatic and earth-shattering in Stevie's world.

6. Dave Stewart coddles Stevie too much and has fostered and encouraged her lazy songwriting in recent years.

Yikes! I feel horrible even writing these things....But there it is.....

[Danigirl]

Iwouldn't be surprised if she hooked up with John. :eek:
I think she did. Post Mick/Sara affair. I sense her and John very touchy in say the Tusk photo shoot/ Tusk recording sessions.

[singertobe]

1. Her music videos for IYD seemed incredibly lazy, especially the one for Moonlight.
2. I don't understand WHY she is friends with some of the newer singers that she's friends with. (Perry, Gaga, etc)
3. I don't think her mentoring advice on the Voice was all that good.:distress:

[Travis]

I love "Sister Honey", "Desert Angel" and "Whole Lotta Trouble."

I have no real interest in seeing Stevie or the Mac again live.

I never listen to "In Your Dreams" and "24 KG"

I love Louise Goffin's version of "If You Ever Did Believe." The Jimmy Iovine produced track is leaps and bounds better than Stevie's 98 recording.

Bella Donna is overrated. Good album but it ranks #4 for me with WH, RAL and OSOTM taking the top 3 spots.

Lindsay Lohan. Yes, she needs to get her act together but there was a long time Stevie didn't have her act together either so it bothered me to hear Stevie talk about her the way she did.

[TheWILDheart]

I love IYD, but I feel it might have been a fluke after 24KG. That album is sloppy, poorly recorded, lazy and the production is terrible. Even the good songs are ruined by distortion on the recordings. "Starshine" could've been one of her best album openers, but then her vocals kick in and make the whole track sound like some dodgy radio/youtube rip - muffled, flat, distorted, badly mixed. Which is real shame, because she has some great vocal moments on 24KG.
For those reasons, I really REALLY hope and pray that Stevie doesn't work with Dave again.

I also think that "That Made Me Stronger" and "Silver Girl" are better than 90% of 24KG.

[Vanessa]

RAL is my favourite Stevie album
I like Docklands (i try to ignore the laundromat lyric)
I don't like In Your Dreams (the album)
I like all of SYW and I love Silver Girl
I love OSOTM
As confusing as it is I love the Scarlet version of Stand Back
I don't like her duets with Don Henley and Tom Petty

[David A]

1. I think SN solo career is extremely over rated, FM career is one thing, but her solo career is/was a success but not to the extreme that many seem
2. I think she knows a lot more about Lindsey's dark side than any of us will ever know , thank goodness
3. Never understood why she was unhappy with Tango when she wasnt even there, she got paid from it and yet she bitches, weird
4. I actually liked the Enchanted box set, never thought I would, but I did
5. She is insane for not wanting to record with FM one last time, tour ok, I get that, but to record, she loves money and she could make some good cash on it, even if she was to just give them crap songs, but if she wants to tour the small venues and make nothing then thats fine, and yes I am aware LB tours small venues but his ego isnt anywhere near the size of Stevies so I doubt he cares, and I know SN does, so thats mind boggling

[TheWILDheart]

5. She is insane for not wanting to record with FM one last time, tour ok, I get that, but to record, she loves money and she could make some good cash on it, even if she was to just give them crap songs, but if she wants to tour the small venues and make nothing then thats fine, and yes I am aware LB tours small venues but his ego isnt anywhere near the size of Stevies so I doubt he cares, and I know SN does, so thats mind boggling

I honestly believe that the lack of new material from La Nicks is just because she doesn't write much anymore and what she does isn't all that good. And she knows it.

It took Dave Stewart to really craft her songs on IYD - almost everything on that record was a co-write and the songs that weren't were all old demo's. Everything she's done post-SYW has either required assistance or been something she's pulled out of the vault.

[Macfanforever]

My gripe is with her and FM is to try to play different music then what they play regularly .They dont want to change .

[singertobe]

Lindsay Lohan. Yes, she needs to get her act together but there was a long time Stevie didn't have her act together either so it bothered me to hear Stevie talk about her the way she did.

I know right? But then she feels sorry for Britney? Lindsay is the one who had all those problems with her parents. She has more reasons to be messed up than Britney.

[turquoise5]

1. She has a blind spot when it comes to her brother Chris. He is just a hanger-on.

2. Street Angel is better than Rock a Little and TOSOTM.

3. The Twister soundtrack has the best version of Twisted, and it's due to Lindsey's influence.

4. I have no interest in seeing either Stevie or the Mac live again, they stick to the same set too much. I only saw them this time around because Christine rejoined.

5. Seems like her good songwriting days are over - the days when she wrote the words and the music and collaboration, or singing someone else's work, was very rare. I wish she would write about what's happening in her life now...like how it is to be a single older woman.

6. Wild Heart is a near perfect album. If Nothing Ever Changes was off it and Violet & Blue was on it, that would be my perfect Stevie album.

7. The shades have got to go.

8. Watchdevil on 24K Gold is not memorable, but the demo is wonderful.

[johnnystorms]

1. She has a blind spot when it comes to her brother Chris. He is just a hanger-on.

2. Street Angel is better than Rock a Little and TOSOTM.

3. The Twister soundtrack has the best version of Twisted, and it's due to Lindsey's influence.

4. I have no interest in seeing either Stevie or the Mac live again, they stick to the same set too much. I only saw them this time around because Christine rejoined.

5. Seems like her good songwriting days are over - the days when she wrote the words and the music and collaboration, or singing someone else's work, was very rare. I wish she would write about what's happening in her life now...like how it is to be a single older woman.

6. Wild Heart is a near perfect album. If Nothing Ever Changes was off it and Violet & Blue was on it, that would be my perfect Stevie album.

7. The shades have got to go.

8. Watchdevil on 24K Gold is not memorable, but the demo is wonderful.

TOTALLY agree with 3 and 7, 1 is tough because he's her brother and I respect the family loyalty.

[michelej1]

Well, #1 is tough because it's not an unpopular opinion. I don't think there are a lot of people who think Chris is not a hanger on.

I loved it on Crystal Visions when she talked about her handsome brother and my eyes kind of jumped out of the sockets and were yanked back in when Chris came onscreen.

I was like, "What? You have another brother I didn't know about?? Chris had that second younger half-brother she never talks about, but I didn't know you did too!"

But it's sweet to love your brother. I had a younger brother named "Chris" myself.

Michele

[welcomechris]

Great thread.....I love Stevie and all her faults, but here are a few of my unpopular opinions:

1. Stevie is good songwriter, but she has "borrowed" many of her best lines from the poetry and prose of other people—without giving proper credit.

2. Stevie isn't that great live anymore. Everything is choreographed. No spontaneity. Same setlist year after year. Boring.

3. Stevie isn't the Queen of Rock. That title belongs to Joan Jett. She may not share Stevie's popularity, but she's a better performer and she truly lives and breathes rock 'n' roll. Just watch her recent induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

4. Stevie hasn't written a truly great song since "Wild Heart."

5. Stevie is prone to exaggeration. What would be considered normal, minor pain and discomfort for us regular folks is seen as traumatic and earth-shattering in Stevie's world.

6. Dave Stewart coddles Stevie too much and has fostered and encouraged her lazy songwriting in recent years.

Yikes! I feel horrible even writing these things....But there it is.....

No, Joan Jett is extremely overrated. Stevie is and always will be the queen of rock.

Has Anyone Ever Written, Rooms On Fire, Blue Denim, Twisted, Love Is, Trouble In Shangri La, Sorcerer, For What It's Worth, You May Be The One, Hard Advice....

She's never stopped being a good songwriter


Oh and I think Sheryl Crow just ruined "Candlebright"

[Newzchspy]

1) I think the IYD and 24 K album are awful.
2) Red Rocks was the epitome of rock indulgence
3) I really Liked SA as it represents Stevie in her innocence before overproduction
4) Keep Dave Stewart away from anything FM or Stevie; He just plain sucks ! (and stay away from Sheryl Crow too)
5) Stevie needs to get back to her solo career and stop F'In around with FM and Dave Stewart
6) I believe that Stevie undoubtedly does her best work with Lindsey B at the helm.
7) Black or color, I'll take Stevie anyway I can get her!!!
8) Stevie and Lindsey broke up, what? 40 years ago??? He's married with kids and is NOT going to run off into the sunset with Stevie............... (and quite frankly, I'll bet that other than on stage, she probably can't stand his moodiness.
9) Lindsey is one great guitarist, one of the greatest of the past century(and one of the most underrated as far as pure talent while not being able to read a note or lick of music)
Now who can disagree with this ^ ^ ^ ???
10) Most of us will be pushing up daisies by the time Stevie writes her autobio.....

[mitzo]

She seems unable to write a song anymore by herself.
Her early solo move into "rock" ruined her music... especially the Tom Petty thing.
She is only really good on ballads, where her writing and vocals shine brilliantly.
I love When I See You Again for its bizarre and raw and almost avante-garde atmosphere and I suspect those who hate it of being unintelligent or dull
The Second Time is beautiful.
Stevie seems to have borderline personality, or at least, extreme self absorption.
She ruined her solo career by not using consistent artistic production.
Say You Will is probably the best Stevie solo album... her nine songs are fantastic, largely due to Lindsey's production.
Not a fan of TISL.
I turned away from her on hearing Belladonna, came back briefly after hearing Nightbird on radio (bought Wild Heart and deemed the album to be a throwaway except for B&TB and Nightbird), and was rehooked only by TITN and her 3 widely-panned tunes there.
Stevie live (I have seen her four times solo) is disappointing. The band drowns her out and the cacophonous boredom of Stand Back and E of 17 eat up far too much time.

[iamnotafraid]

After reading this thread I don't feel so bad
about the way I feel about her now.

[johnnystorms]

She seems unable to write a song anymore by herself.
Her early solo move into "rock" ruined her music... especially the Tom Petty thing.
She is only really good on ballads, where her writing and vocals shine brilliantly.
I love When I See You Again for its bizarre and raw and almost avante-garde atmosphere and I suspect those who hate it of being unintelligent or dull
The Second Time is beautiful.
Stevie seems to have borderline personality, or at least, extreme self absorption.
She ruined her solo career by not using consistent artistic production.
Say You Will is probably the best Stevie solo album... her nine songs are fantastic, largely due to Lindsey's production.
Not a fan of TISL.
I turned away from her on hearing Belladonna, came back briefly after hearing Nightbird on radio (bought Wild Heart and deemed the album to be a throwaway except for B&TB and Nightbird), and was rehooked only by TISL and her 3 widely-panned tunes there.
Stevie live (I have seen her four times solo) is disappointing. The band drowns her out and the cacophonous boredom of Stand Back and E of 47 eat up far too much time.

you're "not a fan of TISL" but you were re-hooked by TISL??? did I have too many cocktails?

[mitzo]

you're "not a fan of TISL" but you were re-hooked by TISL??? did I have too many cocktails?

I meant TITN, edited.

[He's So Unusual]

1. Whole Lotta Trouble is one of her best singles
2. Her "thing" with Lindsey on stage is affected and mostly put on to please the fans of the on-going soap opera
3. She comes across far too serious at times
4. Rock a Little is her best album
5. The Highwayman is one of her worst songs
6. Stand Back sounds awful live

[Hawkeye]

1. My biggest unpopular stevie opinion at least around here is that her solo set lists since 2005 have actually been quite incredible and brave. Even her inclusion of random cover songs is something I love. And this opinion got stronger once she released IYD and played 9 our of 13 of the songs at some point. Her solo sets are by far better then what fleetwood Mac does and even what Lindsey does solo!

2. I think mable Normans my be my favorite stevie solo song ever.

3. And right up there with it is I Don't Cate. (Nothing has confused me more in the past year then all the people I've read state "well I love pretty much all of 24KG...except for I Don't Care.

4. I love Stevie's personality just as much as her songs. Even these days

5. TheOther Side of the Mirror is an absolute embarrassment of an album. Not sure if this is unpopular but I feel it's generally more liked then street Angel and even rock a little. The whole vibe, feel and sound of the album is like nothing she did before or after and thank god for that. That being said I love doing the best I can and long way to go. And rooms on fire is fine. The rest is terrible

6. I can't stand the TISL version of planets. I love all versions of it in demo form.

7. Similarly I just can't embrace how if you were my love came out. I try to like it as much as many here do but it just doesn't work for me.

[TheWILDheart]

2. Her "thing" with Lindsey on stage is affected and mostly put on to please the fans of the on-going soap opera


Agreed. And I don't think that's an unpopular opinion. They held hands at the end of "Landslide" for like 20 seconds at Leeds and the crowd were screaming and cheering for them, but they barely looked at eachother. It was very obviously done for the reaction.

[TheWILDheart]

I have another...

"Mabel Normand" is pretty much the same as "The Nightmare", but worse. Incoherent rambling in no particular tune over the same looped riff.

[Hawkeye]

I have another...

"Mabel Normand" is pretty much the same as "The Nightmare", but worse. Incoherent rambling in no particular tune over the same looped riff.

everything I love about it! :laugh:

But seriously, i dont know if anyone else ever feels like I do, but sometimes my mind just wonders and its so hard for me to focus and I have thoughts on thoughts on thoughts. to hear Stevie incoherently ramble is truly very comforting to me. Her delivery of the ramble is what makes it all work.

[GypsySorcerer]

1)
6) The vocal coach Stevie has used the past 2 decades totally destroyed the quality of Stevie's voice. She belts/shouts everything now, and there is no nuance left to her voice, and her gorgeous tone has been ruined.
10) The whole Stevie/Lindsey romance thing is played out, and I have zero interest in it. In fact, the focus on it rather angers me.

I agree with both of those. Also:

1) I wish she'd cut several inches off her hair and go back to the darker color she had during the TISL era. The overly bleached look ages her.
2) Overall, 24K Gold is a terrible album. Those songs were in the vault for a reason.
3) Other than a few exceptions (e.g. "Trouble in Shangri-La"), she hasn't written a truly great song since "Gypsy."

[Danielle]

I like all of Stevie's music. Really. A lot.

(I doubt anyone on TL will be able to top my unpopular opinion.) :laugh:

[welcomechris]

1. My biggest unpopular stevie opinion at least around here is that her solo set lists since 2005 have actually been quite incredible and brave. Even her inclusion of random cover songs is something I love. And this opinion got stronger once she released IYD and played 9 our of 13 of the songs at some point. Her solo sets are by far better then what fleetwood Mac does and even what Lindsey does solo!

2. I think mable Normans my be my favorite stevie solo song ever.

3. And right up there with it is I Don't Cate. (Nothing has confused me more in the past year then all the people I've read state "well I love pretty much all of 24KG...except for I Don't Care.

4. I love Stevie's personality just as much as her songs. Even these days

5. TheOther Side of the Mirror is an absolute embarrassment of an album. Not sure if this is unpopular but I feel it's generally more liked then street Angel and even rock a little. The whole vibe, feel and sound of the album is like nothing she did before or after and thank god for that. That being said I love doing the best I can and long way to go. And rooms on fire is fine. The rest is terrible

6. I can't stand the TISL version of planets. I love all versions of it in demo form.

7. Similarly I just can't embrace how if you were my love came out. I try to like it as much as many here do but it just doesn't work for me.

I think you need to chill out on the cocktails bud.... LOL :blob2::lol::lol:

I would love to hear Stevie's song "I Don't Cate"

Here's the lyrics to "I Don't Cate"

Would you like a drink?
Would you life another?
Well, Well
I Don't Cate!

Would like me to stay?
Would you like a tray?
Would you fall from grace just to hear me say
Well, Well.
I Don't Cate!

Here's the lyrics to "Mable Normans"

Another Show
She fell down the stairs
That dyslexic, domestic house wife
Happy, Mable Normans

Well, she ain't no Amelia Bedelia
But she sure knows how to bake a cake
Sometime's it just matters
How much frosting, You must put on
So you give that cake to your reptile
How bout' I get you a stepchild
And he called today...



Sorry I'm not drunk I just felt like spoofing stevie lyrics. You have to sing along to get it:lol:

[sorcerer999]

I think the version of "Sisters Of The Moon" the opens the Tusk Documentary is WAYYYYYYYYYY BETTER than the version on the Mirage Concert video.

Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the Mirage (speaking in tongues) version, but there's just something more magical and rocking on the Tusk version. It's "witchier" (is that even a word?:laugh:) everyone is screaming, and Stevie has the audience both captivated and in the palm of her hand. I love her walking to each side of the stage, staring out in the audience, the black shawl over her head, mouthing the words, "Would you be my, would you be my, would you be my..."

[James89]

I love her walking to each side of the stage, staring out in the audience, the black shawl over her head, mouthing the words, "Would you be my, would you be my, would you be my..."

Yeah, I love that part too. :)

[redbird]

I think the version of "Sisters Of The Moon" the opens the Tusk Documentary is WAYYYYYYYYYY BETTER than the version on the Mirage Concert video.

Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the Mirage (speaking in tongues) version, but there's just something more magical and rocking on the Tusk version. It's "witchier" (is that even a word?:laugh:) everyone is screaming, and Stevie has the audience both captivated and in the palm of her hand. I love her walking to each side of the stage, staring out in the audience, the black shawl over her head, mouthing the words, "Would you be my, would you be my, would you be my..."
I definitely agree!


Oh and also, I love "Freedom". I think it's kind of considered acceptable, one of the better songs from BTM, but I don't just tolerate it, I love it.

[Macfanforever]

I love Mabel Normand herself along with Carole Lombard.
Mabel Normand sounds great even as she fly's through the words.

[singertobe]

Great thread.....I love Stevie and all her faults, but here are a few of my unpopular opinions:

1. Stevie is good songwriter, but she has "borrowed" many of her best lines from the poetry and prose of other people—without giving proper credit.

2. Stevie isn't that great live anymore. Everything is choreographed. No spontaneity. Same setlist year after year. Boring.

3. Stevie isn't the Queen of Rock. That title belongs to Joan Jett. She may not share Stevie's popularity, but she's a better performer and she truly lives and breathes rock 'n' roll. Just watch her recent induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

4. Stevie hasn't written a truly great song since "Wild Heart."

5. Stevie is prone to exaggeration. What would be considered normal, minor pain and discomfort for us regular folks is seen as traumatic and earth-shattering in Stevie's world.

6. Dave Stewart coddles Stevie too much and has fostered and encouraged her lazy songwriting in recent years.

Yikes! I feel horrible even writing these things....But there it is.....

No, it belongs to Janis Joplin ;)

[Macfanforever]

I thought Pat Benetar is the queen of rock.Linda Ronstadt falls into the same dept too.
I like Joan Jett but Stevie should take the honors .

If Stevie told FM to go their own way."Pun intended" after the Tusk album and focus on her solo works.She probably be inducted in the R&R hall a fame a while ago.

I'm so happy that Linda got in there which was way over due.

The way things look .Taylor Swift probably get in there before Stevie herself.

[starshine]

Wow alot of great posts for this , I did agree with some of them as well. I'll give this a try :

1/Stevie has an inflated opinion of herself, and I think that Dave Stewart has helped this along.
2/I haven't seen Stevie or Mac live in sometime , Stevie since 08 Mac since 03. I agreed with some posters here. Same tired rundown set list and movements, boring outfits. I can watch on YouTube etc. Why spend all that money anymore. I can see/hear it in my own home.
3/I do LOVE BD/WH/Mirror--probably the most of her solo LP's. SA is OK better than RAL to me. I really haven't listened much to IYD or 24 K Gold that much. Did like the Box Set Enchanted but that's not something new. TISL is OK as well but hate the LP cover. Some outtake photos are much better than what is used.
4/ I love Stevie's voice 77-early 84 , haven't cared for it much really after that. Though I did LOVE the Street Angel tour. Enchanted as well Live, at least the set lists were different. Also loved the short tour with Don Henley.
5/I wished Stevie had released more LP's but other issue's got in the way (drugs etc).
6/I also think Stevie should re-issue all her catalog with outtakes etc. Or do large box sets for EACH solo record with outtakes/rare photos --this needs to be like a special BOOK you can order. With maybe 4 cds each as well as a DVD, need to have that HBO special 'official' re-issued again with all the songs from that concert. This could be done for ALL her solo LP's to current with extras you can order. Like posters and shirts .
7/I agree her brother doesn't know how to market items , but like someone posted --I do understand the family loyalty issue.
8/I really think Stevie is tired of all of 'this' and really wants to stop but doesn't know how or can't because so many people depend on her (family/employee's etc.).
9/I wish she cared as much as us fans do, but well maybe she does but it just doesn't appear so. Actions do speak louder than words. Even though I appreciate the releasing of 24 K Gold , I guess I'll always wish for something better, more special than can be done. Or that's possible. I still love some of the original outtakes (songs) etc. The Polaroid idea was nice BUT I would've LOVED to have seen more outtakes done from the LP sessions when these songs would've been recorded for. It would've been nice.
10/ I can't listen to Edge of 17 anymore , I've heard it way to much--guess I'm burned out on it. Like other songs I've just heard too much. (Stevie solo/Mac songs). Sorry!!
11/I can't give Stevie or Mac up at least not yet but I don't always 'agree' with the choices they make or love everything they do or release. Just the way it is.
12/hope this wasn't to boring, thanks for reading!!:D:shrug:

[bombaysaffires]

Wow alot of great posts for this , I did agree with some of them as well. I'll give this a try :

1/Stevie has an inflated opinion of herself, and I think that Dave Stewart has helped this along.

4/ I love Stevie's voice 77-early 84 , haven't cared for it much really after that.

5/I wished Stevie had released more LP's but other issue's got in the way (drugs etc).

6/I also think Stevie should re-issue all her catalog with outtakes etc. Or do large box sets for EACH solo record with outtakes/rare photos --this needs to be like a special BOOK you can order. With maybe 4 cds each as well as a DVD, need to have that HBO special 'official' re-issued again with all the songs from that concert. This could be done for ALL her solo LP's to current with extras you can order. .

8/I really think Stevie is tired of all of 'this' and really wants to stop but doesn't know how or can't because so many people depend on her (family/employee's etc.).

9/I wish she cared as much as us fans do, but well maybe she does but it just doesn't appear so. Actions do speak louder than words.

11/I can't give Stevie or Mac up at least not yet but I don't always 'agree' with the choices they make or love everything they do or release. Just the way it is.


Agree with all the above, and would add:

I think her voice was great going back to 1975.

I too think she'd like to cut back on some level.
\
Would LOVE new packages of the solo stuff. and the HBO show has got to be rereleased FFS. Maybe there's an issue over ownership? Maybe Modern owned it, or Warner's or somebody......although she was an owner/partner in Modern so....

That's another thing-- she created a whole record label for her solo work. Yes Paul Fishkin and Danny Goldberg were the business minded partners, but still. That was such an awesome thing and she never, ever, ever talks about it. I think it was totally ballsy and savvy and yet she always plays down her business savvy in favor of the airy-fairy princess. She can be both.

And I sooooo agree there's a crapload of wasted opportunities across her career because she was too infatuated with life in the fast lane.:mad:

[Artemis]

This is one of my favourite ever pictures of Stevie and I would absolutely love it if she cut her hair this short, it totally refreshes her.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_AGPrjH5BwHY/TIUM-PPEAKI/AAAAAAAAIV0/vPwE3rpUoeI/s400/Dave+Stewart+and+Stevie+Nicks+on+Piano.png

[bombaysaffires]

This is one of my favourite ever pictures of Stevie and I would absolutely love it if she cut her hair this short, it totally refreshes her.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_AGPrjH5BwHY/TIUM-PPEAKI/AAAAAAAAIV0/vPwE3rpUoeI/s400/Dave+Stewart+and+Stevie+Nicks+on+Piano.png

I've often wondered if her natural hair is in fact this short, and the rest is extensions. She admits to having extensions in in some of her videos and talks about them in a way that suggests she is familiar with wearing them and knows good ones from bad. At almost 70 there's no way her hair is as full and lush as it is in photographs. But some folks who've seen them live say when she flings her head/hair around you don't see evidence of extensions. Though if you have a really good hair stylist, you shouldn't be able to tell...:shrug:

[Macfanforever]

This is one of my favourite ever pictures of Stevie and I would absolutely love it if she cut her hair this short, it totally refreshes her.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_AGPrjH5BwHY/TIUM-PPEAKI/AAAAAAAAIV0/vPwE3rpUoeI/s400/Dave+Stewart+and+Stevie+Nicks+on+Piano.png

I would love the see her with her HBO show hair or Wildheart feathered hair.
I do love her current long hairstyle which women at that age have the granny short curly hair look.

On music.I always say she should try to sing something different then what she normally sings.Which she has at times .Try complete album of country.blues,jazz. opera ,classical music.old standards.disco,rap-hip hop etc.

OH .Did I say rap-hip hop.Gag me with a spoon.LOL..but some of you would enjoy it.

Those both would refresh her.

Like some said here she does not like changes.I'll not a fan of changes myself but sometimes its good for a change of things.

[SisterNightroad]

I'd like Stevie to cut it out with the blonde, it's starting to be yellowy. Probably she would look good as a brunette.

[Macfanforever]

I'd like Stevie to cut it out with the blonde, it's starting to be yellowy. Probably she would look good as a brunette.

Or a redhead like Florence.

[SisterNightroad]

I think auburn would be the best shade of red for her, showy but classy:

http://s8.postimg.org/a8ykmreb9/Auburn_hair_color_ideas_2014_04.jpg

[redbird]

I really admire a lot about The Wild Heart, but I skip "If Anyone Falls", "Stand Back", and "Beauty and the Beast" every time. I like "I Will Run To You" better than those three.

[bombaysaffires]

I really admire a lot about The Wild Heart, but I skip "If Anyone Falls", "Stand Back", and "Beauty and the Beast" every time. I like "I Will Run To You" better than those three.

:eek: :eek: :eek: :distress:

[mitzo]

I really admire a lot about The Wild Heart, but I skip "If Anyone Falls", "Stand Back", and "Beauty and the Beast" every time. I like "I Will Run To You" better than those three.

OK so three of her best ever songs...

[redbird]

OK so three of her best ever songs...

Yeah it's kind of like, people have different tastes and stuff :laugh:

I'm not a big synth fan or a big dance fan (though there'll be an occasional song that I dig), and while I get that "Beauty and the Beast" is very uniquely Stevie and that really does it for some people, it's too melodramatic (in a torpid, not fun way) for me. Stevie is a cat of many coats, if there's a coat that resembles me best it's probably easy breezy cowgirl Stevie, not gothic swimming in my own pain Stevie. Not that I don't appreciate a wide range of her songs, but these don't connect for me (OTOH I adore "Sable on Blond" so go figure).

(You know, I think it's funny how Stevie used to go on about how the relationship with Lindsey was getting too dark and intense so she had to fly out of there like the gemini that she is etc etc, but then she has this truckload of intensely angsty songs of her own unmatched by anyone this side of Jeff Morrissey. But that contradiction probably just makes her human.)

[Hawkeye]

OK so three of her best ever songs...

Don't you think your the last person who should be criticizing someone not loving generally loved songs! :laugh:

[michelej1]

But some folks who've seen them live say when she flings her head/hair around you don't see evidence of extensions. Though if you have a really good hair stylist, you shouldn't be able to tell...:shrug:

I don't see them with Stevie and she turns her head upside down too. There are a lot of rich artists out there who can pay for the best hair stylist, someone to travelw with them and attend to their locks daily, but their hair still doesn't look as natural as Stevie's.

I agree that it shouldn't be this thick at her age, though.

Michele

[mitzo]

Don't you think your the last person who should be criticizing someone not loving generally loved songs! :laugh:

True, but it is all about level of taste, isn't it?!

[SisterNightroad]

I don't see them with Stevie and she turns her head upside down too. There are a lot of rich artists out there who can pay for the best hair stylist, someone to travelw with them and attend to their locks daily, but their hair still doesn't look as natural as Stevie's.

I agree that it shouldn't be this thick at her age, though.

Michele
There are many ways, natural and not, to thicken someone's hair, for example henna, backing soda but also keratine treatment and silicones.
Stevie always had very thick hair, so it's not a surprise that she managed to mantain it so with a little external help.

[StreetAngel86]

I don't see them with Stevie and she turns her head upside down too. There are a lot of rich artists out there who can pay for the best hair stylist, someone to travelw with them and attend to their locks daily, but their hair still doesn't look as natural as Stevie's.

I agree that it shouldn't be this thick at her age, though.

Michele

idk i think her hair is naturally very long
and she probably doesn't wear extensions
maybe she just wears a halo to give her hair bulk
like Jane Fonda in Grace & Frankie :lol::lol::lol:

[jbrownsjr]

Stevie's piano playing is like nails on a chalk board.

I like Welcome To The Room Sara and When I See You Again.

Her relationship with Lindsey is nothing but PR that works very well. They have zero romantic feelings for each other. Writing about each other is still great inspiration, but nothing more. Guesting on each albums boosts sales.

I love her voice on the Mirage Tour and her SOTM screams.

I hate her tone quality these days. (Although I think her pitch is better than CM and LB on this tour) Of course, her range is much smaller.

The last few songs on IYD are killer and the beginning is horrible.

Love TOSOTM and Ohh My Love and Alice :)

[aleuzzi]

As good as the songs on Bella Donna are, the album as a whole does not cohere as a viable artist's statement. It feels like what it is: a cleverly arranged, well-performed bunch of songs most of which were written long before its release.

Imperial Hotel is one of her best songs.

Blue Denimn is better than anything on any of her solo albums before or after it--save Planets and Anna Belle Lee, which are its equal.

24 Carrot Gold is dull, primarily because the songs are too long. Stevie gets upset if her precious verses are cut but they often need to be to serve the progression of a song.

Lady is an instant classic worthy of the best cabaret songs, like Send in the Clowns.

Although her range has suffered and her tone is harsher than it's ever been, she sings more intelligently now than she ever has.

[jbrownsjr]

Although her range has suffered and her tone is harsher than it's ever been, she sings more intelligently now than she ever has.

It's true. As a singer I really understand what she's done and applaud her for it. Still, I don't like the tone.

[aleuzzi]

It's true. As a singer I really understand what she's done and applaud her for it. Still, I don't like the tone.

You get me....

[jbrownsjr]

You get me....

Who in the world do you think that you are fooling?
Well I've already done everything that you are doing
Well the two of us, well we must be...
A great temptation to have even started.


lol... love you Tony! :xoxo:

[The Juggler]

1. The whole "mystical Stevie" persona has been dead since 1982. She's been on performance auto-pilot since 1987. Her live performances on the Rock A Little tour are not rocky and coketastic, they are sloppy and messy with awful vocals.

2. Stevie's 1975-1983 voice is probably my favourite voice ever. Her low, raspy vocals these days aren't great. I wish she'd get the nose surgery which could improve her voice and range because it isn't in great shape unfortunately.

3. She hasn't written an excellent song since The Wild Heart.

4. I believe a lot of her songs are just spew, spur of the moment stuff that sometimes sticks. That's why she wrote so much in the 1970s, some of it was amazing. Some not so great.

5. Her 1990-1994 output is absolutely atrocious. Not one good song amongst the 20 or so songs from that period.

6. Her inflated ego since 1997 is very annoying. I love how innocent her early interviews are, she is genuine in them. Her recent interviews seem very outlandish and inflated.

7. Her songs on Say You Will are really quite great, but since then I think she's lost her ability to write. Her label making her wait for 10 years is only an excuse I'd say. The two news on 24KG are absolutely awful. Maybe that's the reason she's holding out on the new FM album?

8. She should never work with Mike Chapman or Dave Smith again. Both bring out the blandness in her writing and vocals.

But despite all that, I love her and I'm seeing her on both Friday and Saturday in Dublin:D

[jbrownsjr]

6. Her inflated ego since 1997 is very annoying. I love how innocent her early interviews are, she is genuine in them. Her recent interviews seem very outlandish and inflated.



She used to know who she was......

[aleuzzi]

Who in the world do you think that you are fooling?
Well I've already done everything that you are doing
Well the two of us, well we must be...
A great temptation to have even started.


lol... love you Tony! :xoxo:

Right back, doll!

[aleuzzi]

1. The whole "mystical Stevie" persona has been dead since 1982. She's been on performance auto-pilot since 1987. Her live performances on the Rock A Little tour are not rocky and coketastic, they are sloppy and messy with awful vocals.

2. Stevie's 1975-1983 voice is probably my favourite voice ever. Her low, raspy vocals these days aren't great. I wish she'd get the nose surgery which could improve her voice and range because it isn't in great shape unfortunately.

3. She hasn't written an excellent song since The Wild Heart.

4. I believe a lot of her songs are just spew, spur of the moment stuff that sometimes sticks. That's why she wrote so much in the 1970s, some of it was amazing. Some not so great.

5. Her 1990-1994 output is absolutely atrocious. Not one good song amongst the 20 or so songs from that period.

6. Her inflated ego since 1997 is very annoying. I love how innocent her early interviews are, she is genuine in them. Her recent interviews seem very outlandish and inflated.

7. Her songs on Say You Will are really quite great, but since then I think she's lost her ability to write. Her label making her wait for 10 years is only an excuse I'd say. The two news on 24KG are absolutely awful. Maybe that's the reason she's holding out on the new FM album?

8. She should never work with Mike Chapman or Dave Smith again. Both bring out the blandness in her writing and vocals.

But despite all that, I love her and I'm seeing her on both Friday and Saturday in Dublin:D

I'm in Dublin now and will, tragically, miss them by one friggin day! I've already seen them twice on this tour but seeing them in Dublin, the place where Christine reemerged, would be amazing. And, from what I have seen, Dubliners are die hard classic rock fans. ACDC was here the other day and I swear the city center went nuts.

[mitzo]

Stevie's piano playing is like nails on a chalk board.

I like Welcome To The Room Sara and When I See You Again.

Her relationship with Lindsey is nothing but PR that works very well. They have zero romantic feelings for each other. Writing about each other is still great inspiration, but nothing more. Guesting on each albums boosts sales.

I love her voice on the Mirage Tour and her SOTM screams.

I hate her tone quality these days. (Although I think her pitch is better than CM and LB on this tour) Of course, her range is much smaller.

The last few songs on IYD are killer and the beginning is horrible.

Love TOSOTM and Ohh My Love and Alice :)

I really agree with your first two points and your last point here. The piano has got to stop, and the TITN songs are fascinating. And the last part of IYD is super, but the first two thirds are filler at best.

[jbrownsjr]

I really agree with your first two points and your last point here. The piano has got to stop, and the TITN songs are fascinating. And the last part of IYD is super, but the first two thirds are filler at best.

The more I listen to IYD, the more I skip to the last 1/3. It's really good stuff.

[Macfanforever]

What I think what the problem is here is with these unpopular Stevie /FM topics and 24K opinions is everyone is pissed off about the upcoming FM album.If it happens.
At this point I dont care if it happens or not.I'm not going to hold the band or its members up to it.

Its great to vent out our opinions .

IYD is great.It sounds great.

The only song I had to skip on her CD's was "Sometimes it was a Beach" at work because of the women there did not like the cursing.

[TheWILDheart]

I wish Stevie had held the song "24 Karat Gold" for Fleetwood Mac. It would sound so amazing with Stevie-Lindsey-Christine harmonies.

[peer_gynt10]

Hm, I guess I have two 'unpopular' opinions about her:

1) I think it's great that she is the one delaying/jeopardizing another FM album. That band has f..ed her over so many times (3 songs per album during their heyday, even though she was the most popular member; never missing a chance to make her feel guilty for not being present during the TITN recording; Mick and Lindsey pointing fingers at her for not wanting to go back into the studio). If it wasn't for her, the current tour (and the last two ones) would never be such a commercial success.

2) Just like her fellow band members, she has become greedy and lazy. Same predictable set lists and inflated ticket prices. I know that most acts charge outrageous amounts for concert tickets nowadays, but I still refused to go and see FM when they came to Montreal.

[jbrownsjr]

2) Just like her fellow band members, she has become greedy and lazy. Same predictable set lists and inflated ticket prices. I know that most acts charge outrageous amounts for concert tickets nowadays, but I still refused to go and see FM when they came to Montreal.

The same predictable sets are maddening. I understand your sentiment. It's like their mgmt have FMAC robots and programmed them to do only these songs.

[Macfanforever]

Please put Beauty and the Beast back into the setlist Stevie.
I love that song.

[PenguinHead]

The same predictable sets are maddening. I understand your sentiment. It's like their mgmt have FMAC robots and programmed them to do only these songs.

Aren't some die-hard fans culpable in their yearnings for predictability?

"They have to open with The Chain....they have to close with Songbird....they have to play this or that song...otherwise it won't be worth it, and I'll be so pissed off... I paid "good" money to hear this and that..no one wants to hear anything unfamiliar or new....just the 40 year old "classics" everyone know. Anything unknown is opportunity for a bathroom break".

At the very least, Stevie/Fleetwood Mac could re-sequence their well-worn sets and it would seem fresh. As great as they are performing those songs, it's tiresome how they have uniformly stuck to the basic structure of their set for so long. Any slight deviation is just amazing! Granted, with three singer/songwriters, and a substantial amount of signature songs, it must be a difficult task to find a balance that meets audience expectations, while also being confident to perform new material and deep album tracks that have never made it to stage. Give some of them a new arrangement. Let Dreams get some sleep. Perform Big Love with a full band! Open with Love in Store or Blue Letter....just something less expected. (Opening with with Second Hand News was a refreshing change of pace -- nearly radical for this stone aged band).

An entertaining show is one with with inspired fresh twists, not the predictability of a church service. There are a lot of vintage bands out there who honor their past successes, but don't pander so heavily to them. There's no dispute that Fleetwood Mac's current set list is a fantastic treasure chest of songs circa 1975-1987. Yet it's as if the world stopped turning then. In consideration to a large portion of their audience -- light-weight fans who only may be familiar with the radio hits -- if you enjoy live music in general, hearing songs you don't know shouldn't be a disappointment. Why should the introductory process of discovery seem so offending? "I don't know this song, so it sucks!" Sorry to those who have such a limited, Disneyland mentality.

[johnnystorms]

yeah, even on The Dance tour, they did the 3 new songs (1 from each) and had that funky little "unplugged" segment for Say You Love Me... I remember how fondly that version of SYLM was received.

[PenguinHead]

The more I listen to IYD, the more I skip to the last 1/3. It's really good stuff.

I just played In Your Dreams the other day, and still take pleasure in the entirety of the album. 24 Karat Gold, in contrast, sounds so different. I love the vast distinction between the two. Uniformity has it's limits.

[jbrownsjr]

I just played In Your Dreams the other day, and still take pleasure in the entirety of the album. 24 Karat Gold, in contrast, sounds so different. I love the vast distinction between the two. Uniformity has it's limits.

I'm not looking for uniformity. I'm looking for good songs with a quality voice. Glad you enjoy.

[TheWILDheart]

yeah, even on The Dance tour, they did the 3 new songs (1 from each) and had that funky little "unplugged" segment for Say You Love Me... I remember how fondly that version of SYLM was received.

they still do that. They did it for "Without You" and "Gypsy" on the 2013 tour and are doing it for "Over My Head" on the current tour.

[Newzchspy]

6. Her inflated ego since 1997 is very annoying. I love how innocent her early interviews are, she is genuine in them. Her recent interviews seem very outlandish and inflated.



She used to know who she was......


She has a tendency to rewrite history and her own history (as MANY on here have noted over many years)..........

Consistency is not her forte......


FWIW, when I saw her do the Sound Stage thing in Chicago about 12 years ago and got to meet her and shake her hand as she walked up to the stage , I don't know if she was "scared" to be going on the stage or was so F'D up, BUT there was a glaze in her eyes as if she didn't know what Planet of the Universe she was on?? (However, every time she comes to town I have this insatiable appetite to indulge in her again and again).

[KarmaContestant]

The Sheryl Crow produced songs from Practical Magic and TISL are great, and excluding Planets of the Universe, all of Trouble In Shangri La should have been produced by Sheryl.

[Frankenstein]

24 Karat Gold (song) turned out well but I still prefer the demo. And I prefer the lyrics "You're like my 24 karat gold" to "You liked my...."

[David]

But for today's Stevie, I don't care. Even if she only wears black, she could change up the cut, though.

Michele
That's what I don't like—the cut, the design. I don't like the long sleeves (I miss her bare arms and the old danskins), I don't like the leather gloves, and I hate that ear monitor device hanging on her ample hip. I like the elegance of what she wore to her documentary premiere and to the Australian horse races. She could be a really cool clothes horse, but she dresses most of the time like a thrift-store shopper.

Oh, I also like this (https://rinburbs.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/screen-shot-2011-10-20-at-10-07-15-pm.png)outfit.

[michelej1]

That's what I don't like—the cut, the design. I don't like the long sleeves (I miss her bare arms and the old danskins), I don't like the leather gloves, and I hate that ear monitor device hanging on her ample hip. I like the elegance of what she wore to her documentary premiere and to the Australian horse races. She could be a really cool clothes horse, but she dresses most of the time like a thrift-store shopper.



Well, I can't give you bare arms, but you can have all the bare shoulders you want, thanks to the top with the holes that she loves so much lately. Michele

[Newzchspy]

Oh, I also like this (https://rinburbs.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/screen-shot-2011-10-20-at-10-07-15-pm.png)outfit.

Both HER and the OUTFIT ^ ^ ^ are doable .......................................:xoxo:

I am loving the "stacks" she's wearing too!!! No, no Stevie, just leave em on !!! :eek:

[Macfanforever]

I think Stevie referred to Dolly Parton's "Coat of Many Colors" in her interviews at times .


True story
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I love those early 1920's dresses and hats also the big southern belle dresses of any color.I rather see her in those them pants of any color.

[welcomechris]

Please put Beauty and the Beast back into the setlist Stevie.
I love that song.

I agree, Her vocal range fits the song better these days.

Sure I have unpopular or unconventional opinions that maybe are not the majority opinions here.

I love Street Angel
I love TOSOTM
I don't care for 24 K gold but I like the original demos better (especially all the beautiful worlds)
I like the pre-Betty Ford clinic Stevie the most
I love Sometimes Its a Bitch and Desert Angel


LOL am I right? These opinions are unpopular here LOL :)

I agree with these, but I really wish the demo songs would be stripped down, leaving the original vocals but putting new instrumentals and production. I love TOSOTM, The only song I do not care for is "Fire Burning". I love Sometimes Its a Bitch and Desert Angel, but I also really like "Love's A Hard Game To Play". Desert Angel could have had some better lyrics, but it's a good song and in the end, It's the message that makes a song good.

2) I really dig the back to basics rock sound of the Street Angel album.
4) I don't want Dave Stewart anywhere near a FM album, even if it's just to produce Stevie's songs.
6) The vocal coach Stevie has used the past 2 decades totally destroyed the quality of Stevie's voice. She belts/shouts everything now, and there is no nuance left to her voice, and her gorgeous tone has been ruined.
9) Everyone around here is always harping about Stevie wearing color- but I prefer Stevie in black.


I agree with all of these. Dave Stewart is great, but Fleetwood Mac is for Lindsey to produce. But Lindsey better cut this high pitched voice ****. Street Angel sounds back to the basics because it's basically a Songs From The Vault album. (I've listed songs Stevie did not write or co-write as "Covers")

1. Blue Denim - New Song
2. Greta - RAL Outtake
3. Street Angel - New Song
4. Docklands - Cover/OSOTM Outtake
5. Listen To The Rain - TimeSpace Outtake
6. Destiny - TWH Outtake
7. Unconditional Love - Cover
8. Love Is Like A River - RAL Outtake
9. Rose Garden - Fritz/BN Era. Outtake
10. Maybe Love Will Change Your Mind - Cover
11. Just Like A Woman - Cover
12. Kick It - New Song
13. Jane - TimeSpace Outtake
14. Inspiration - Cover
15. God's Garden - Cover

*Mirror, Mirror - RAL Outtake
*Thousand Days - RAL Outtake


Also, I have some more "Unpopular Opinions"

*Stevie should just join the Mac, record their album, Promote it, and THEN do your solo stuff (is this unpopular :lol:)
*Carousel and Twisted should not have been of the album, despite the great outcome of the recordings
*I hate "Italian Summer"
*"Sister Honey" and "Some Become Strangers" should have been left off RAL.
*I think Stevie's cover's of "I Still Miss Someone" and "Just Like A Woman" were better then any other recording of the songs (even the originals)
*Blue Water should have just been vocal and piano.
*A video for "24 Karat Gold" should have been made

[TheWILDheart]

4. Docklands - Cover/OSOTM Outtake
7. Unconditional Love - Cover
10. Maybe Love Will Change Your Mind - Cover
13. Jane - TimeSpace Outtake
14. Inspiration - Cover
15. God's Garden - Cover


None of these are covers, they were just written by other people. They're original songs. That'd be like saying "Talk To Me" and "Everyday" are covers.

Also, do we have any confirmation that "Jane" was considered for Timespace? I know there's a full version of "Listen To The Rain" from Timespace before it was insisted that Stevie drop it and record "Sometime's It's A Bitch" instead, but speculation aside, do we have any confirmation regarding "Jane"?

[sadmabelnormand]

Okay this is my first post, and as a Stevie fan I should do this.

1) I strongly dislike the studio version of Landslide
2) I used to hate Nightbird
3) I hate the demo Priest of Nothing
4)I love all of Stevie's songs from TITN
5) I *dont mind* Stevie's vocals from Red Rocks. The video is atrocious however.
6) I like only two songs from SA, the single edit of Blue Denim and Rose Garden.
7) I don't really like the version of Silver Springs from The Dance
8) Julia should have been on 24KT Gold instead of She Loves Him Still
9) Dave Stewart needs to stayhe hell away from another Stevie album

[sorcerer999]

Okay this is my first post, and as a Stevie fan I should do this.

WELCOME to the Ledge!!! I love your screen name!

[welcomechris]

None of these are covers, they were just written by other people. They're original songs. That'd be like saying "Talk To Me" and "Everyday" are covers.

Also, do we have any confirmation that "Jane" was considered for Timespace? I know there's a full version of "Listen To The Rain" from Timespace before it was insisted that Stevie drop it and record "Sometime's It's A Bitch" instead, but speculation aside, do we have any confirmation regarding "Jane"?

Maybe if you looked you'd see that I wrote Songs not written or co-written by Stevie are listed as Covers

Docklands is a real cover, I forgot who recorded it first but it wasn't Stevie.

Yes, a new demo of "Jane" was recorded in 1991. If was considered for Timespace or not, it was recorded and written then, and that was my point.

[welcomechris]

Okay this is my first post, and as a Stevie fan I should do this.

1) I strongly dislike the studio version of Landslide
2) I used to hate Nightbird
3) I hate the demo Priest of Nothing
4)I love all of Stevie's songs from TITN
5) I *dont mind* Stevie's vocals from Red Rocks. The video is atrocious however.
6) I like only two songs from SA, the single edit of Blue Denim and Rose Garden.
7) I don't really like the version of Silver Springs from The Dance
8) Julia should have been on 24KT Gold instead of She Loves Him Still
9) Dave Stewart needs to stayhe hell away from another Stevie album

Welcome to the ledge! All the bolded ones I agree with! I hate the studio version of Landslide, the Dance version is my favorite. She Loves Him Still should have stayed but Carousel should have gone.

[Travis]

Okay this is my first post, and as a Stevie fan I should do this.


4)I love all of Stevie's songs from TITN


Ahhh, "Tango in the Night." Took me a minute :)

[Macfanforever]

Okay this is my first post, and as a Stevie fan I should do this.

1) I strongly dislike the studio version of Landslide
2) I used to hate Nightbird
3) I hate the demo Priest of Nothing
4)I love all of Stevie's songs from TITN
5) I *dont mind* Stevie's vocals from Red Rocks. The video is atrocious however.
6) I like only two songs from SA, the single edit of Blue Denim and Rose Garden.
7) I don't really like the version of Silver Springs from The Dance
8) Julia should have been on 24KT Gold instead of She Loves Him Still
9) Dave Stewart needs to stayhe hell away from another Stevie album

Welcome to the Ledge .I love Nightbird especially the live version.

[sadmabelnormand]

Welcome to the ledge! All the bolded ones I agree with! I hate the studio version of Landslide, the Dance version is my favorite. She Loves Him Still should have stayed but Carousel should have gone.

I personally don't mind Carousel, but it should have been one of the deluxe tracks IMO.

Welcome to the Ledge .I love Nightbird especially the live version.

Now I love Nightbird! Up until a few months ago I absolutely hated it. I used to think the notes at the beginnings were someone banging on the synthesizer. And thanks everyone for the warm welcome!

[BlueDenimLamp]

Okay this is my first post, and as a Stevie fan I should do this.

9) Dave Stewart needs to stayhe hell away from another Stevie album
Sorry to disappoint you but Dave has just tweeted that he and Stevie might just be working on something in the near future.,


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/StandbackLiza">@StandbackLiza</a> I think so :)</p>&mdash; Dave Stewart (@DaveStewart) <a href="https://twitter.com/DaveStewart/status/623627307425513472">July 21, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[sorcerer999]

Sorry to disappoint you but Dave has just tweeted that he and Stevie might just be working on something in the near future.,


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/StandbackLiza">@StandbackLiza</a> I think so :)</p>&mdash; Dave Stewart (@DaveStewart) <a href="https://twitter.com/DaveStewart/status/623627307425513472">July 21, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Either SFTV Part 2 or he's producing her Mac songs...(not to open up a can of worms again)...or it's really all just speculation at this point. She could have mentioned to him in passing the idea to do SFTV Pt 2, but nothing could be set in stone. Who knows?

His simple reply of "I think so" won't hold much weight until there's an "official announcement".

[Straightback]

Let me first preface this by saying I'm very glad Stevie kicked her drug habits. Things could have taken a whole other turn as it has with so many other great artists, and I'm glad that's not the case with her.

That said....

I totally miss coked-out Stevie. I happened to catch the "I Can't Wait" video the other day (which I could watch on a 24-hour loop, BTW) and I was reminded how much I used to love watching her back in the day. I mean, it used to be nothing less than mesmerizing than watching Stevie in the clutches of full on manic, drug-fueled exorcism when she performed. I get that she's getting up in age, but even back in the 90s something happened and she just became more and more an immobile object fixed to the microphone.

[KenshiMaster16]

Unpopular opinions, eh?

- Stevie's best overall solo album? Trouble in Shangri-La
- Whole Lotta Trouble is loathsome.
- In Your Dreams, the track, should've been the lead single off of that project.
- Street Angel is an amazingly catchy record depending on which versions of tracks you put together. The rockier 'video' version of Blue Denim is exquisite.
- Lady is by far the worst single she's ever released. It's such a snore and reminds me of a performance you'd see at a retirement home during a talent show. The music video absolutely cements that image even further into my mind.
- As much as it seems to divide the community, given her current trend of revisiting the past and older material, Miss Nicks should totally consider bunking down with Lindsey and giving us a Buckingham Nicks II after a new Mac record and / or another solo outing. Given that's how their careers began, it would be a completely majestic turn for them to go out with that. (And, of course, finally releasing the original alongside of it as a double package deal)

[iamnotafraid]

Unpopular opinions, eh?

- Stevie's best overall solo album? Trouble in Shangri-La



It's intervention time.

[KenshiMaster16]

It's intervention time.

:rolleyes: No amount of coercion will change that opinion, I'm afraid. lol It's just the most perfect album to me and my most played start to finish. With only 1 flop (Love Changes), it's easily replaced with If You Ever Did Believe and becomes the best thing she's put out. Every other album of hers has multiple glaring additions that weigh them down, imo.

- Bella Donna is bogged down by both Think About It and The Highwayman.
- Wild Heart is bogged down by Gate And Garden and Nightbird.
- Rock A Little is bogged down by I Sing For The Things and The Nightmare.
- TOSOTM is bogged down by almost half that album. So many subpar tracks that era. So many more deserving demos that I've heard should've made it onto the finished product.
- Street Angel is mauled by Gretta and Destiny. Never, ever been a fan of re-using lyrics. Comes across as lazy to me and a cheat in songwriting 101 but hey, it's Stevie, she plays by her own rules.
- In Your Dreams is bogged down by Everybody Loves You and Cheaper Than Free. Can't stand either.
- 24 Karat is bogged down by Cathouse Blues (Yikes), Lady (Snore) and Carousel (Uh, I appreciate Stevie's fellow industry friends but this is a Stevie show, not Stevie Covers....)

lol Man, I'm gonna get a lot of flack. Bring it. :wavey:

[Macfanforever]

:rolleyes: No amount of coercion will change that opinion, I'm afraid. lol It's just the most perfect album to me and my most played start to finish. With only 1 flop (Love Changes), it's easily replaced with If You Ever Did Believe and becomes the best thing she's put out. Every other album of hers has multiple glaring additions that weigh them down, imo.

- Bella Donna is bogged down by both Think About It and The Highwayman.
- Wild Heart is bogged down by Gate And Garden and Nightbird.
- Rock A Little is bogged down by I Sing For The Things and The Nightmare.
- TOSOTM is bogged down by almost half that album. So many subpar tracks that era. So many more deserving demos that I've heard should've made it onto the finished product.
- Street Angel is mauled by Gretta and Destiny. Never, ever been a fan of re-using lyrics. Comes across as lazy to me and a cheat in songwriting 101 but hey, it's Stevie, she plays by her own rules.
- In Your Dreams is bogged down by Everybody Loves You and Cheaper Than Free. Can't stand either.
- 24 Karat is bogged down by Cathouse Blues (Yikes), Lady (Snore) and Carousel (Uh, I appreciate Stevie's fellow industry friends but this is a Stevie show, not Stevie Covers....)

lol Man, I'm gonna get a lot of flack. Bring it. :wavey:

I wont give you flack .Its your opinion and taste .Oh my gawd.Those are my favorite cuts.

[KenshiMaster16]

I wont give you flack .Its your opinion and taste .Oh my gawd.Those are my favorite cuts.

One man's trash is another man's treasure, so they say. :laugh:

[Feather Blade]

Unpopular opinions, eh?

- Stevie's best overall solo album? Trouble in Shangri-La
- Whole Lotta Trouble is loathsome.
- In Your Dreams, the track, should've been the lead single off of that project.
- Street Angel is an amazingly catchy record depending on which versions of tracks you put together. The rockier 'video' version of Blue Denim is exquisite.
- Lady is by far the worst single she's ever released. It's such a snore and reminds me of a performance you'd see at a retirement home during a talent show. The music video absolutely cements that image even further into my mind.
- As much as it seems to divide the community, given her current trend of revisiting the past and older material, Miss Nicks should totally consider bunking down with Lindsey and giving us a Buckingham Nicks II after a new Mac record and / or another solo outing. Given that's how their careers began, it would be a completely majestic turn for them to go out with that. (And, of course, finally releasing the original alongside of it as a double package deal)

I like the way you think, that is an intriguing idea. Especially with the first album as a package deal.

[James89]

I agree with Trouble in Shangri-La being her best album. The production, vocals, lyrics, everything just makes it magic and I'm blown away every time I listen to it.

[welcomechris]

I agree with Trouble in Shangri-La being her best album. The production, vocals, lyrics, everything just makes it magic and I'm blown away every time I listen to it.

I love it also, but I stick with Bella Donna as my favorite. She sounds young and innocent. It's beautiful.

[Macfanforever]

One man's trash is another man's treasure, so they say. :laugh:

Hahahahahha,Yea .I agree.

[iamnotafraid]

:rolleyes: No amount of coercion will change that opinion, I'm afraid. lol...

I've requested contact information from Michele and all
moderators so we can get you the help you need. With the
right medication and psychological help from me you'll be
fine. It's all going to be okay.

[sorcerer999]

- Bella Donna is bogged down by both Think About It and The Highwayman.
- Wild Heart is bogged down by Gate And Garden and Nightbird.
- Rock A Little is bogged down by I Sing For The Things and The Nightmare.
- TOSOTM is bogged down by almost half that album. So many subpar tracks that era. So many more deserving demos that I've heard should've made it onto the finished product.
- Street Angel is mauled by Greta and Destiny. Never, ever been a fan of re-using lyrics. Comes across as lazy to me and a cheat in songwriting 101 but hey, it's Stevie, she plays by her own rules.
- In Your Dreams is bogged down by Everybody Loves You and Cheaper Than Free. Can't stand either.


Aw, man! Those songs actually DRIVE the album for yours truly! LOL - But like you said...one man's trash, etc etc...I will say that I actually agree with you about TISL though. Not that it's her most overall perfect album, mind you, but it is "up there" for me as far as sheer cohesion and enjoyment. It was definitely a moment in time with my own personal "Stevie fandom" that I will always remember fondly. And I TOTALLY agree that "Love Changes" is the weakest think.

My "bog downs", "marrs" and "mauls" from the other records are
BD - "Outside The Rain" (never been a fan. yawn.)
WH - "I Will Run To You" (slices wrists)
RAL - "No Spoken Word" (uber UBER pretentious)
TOSOTM - "I Still Miss Someone" (unnecessary)
SA - Well, I can actually think of about SEVEN songs here. LOL
IYD - "New Orleans", "Cheaper Than Free" and to a certain extent, "Wide Sargasso Sea". (weak, lazy and juvenile lyrics)
24KG - "I Don't Care" & "The Dealer".

[welcomechris]

My drag downs

BD - The Highwayman
TWH - Gate And Garden
RAL - Some Become Strangers
TOSOTM - Cry Wolf
SA - Love Is Like A River
TISL - That Made Me Stronger
IYD - Cheaper Than Free
24KG - Cathouse Blues

[Artemis]

Ooh I've just thought of another one.

I LOVE LOVE LOVE I will run to you. I think it's a great song. I genuinely don't understand why people hate it so much. I'd love to see her and Tom sing it live today, I think they'd do it awesomely.

[Frankenstein]

Ooh I've just thought of another one.

I LOVE LOVE LOVE I will run to you. I think it's a great song. I genuinely don't understand why people hate it so much. I'd love to see her and Tom sing it live today, I think they'd do it awesomely.

It's one of my favorites too. I like it much more than SDMHA.

[welcomechris]

Ooh I've just thought of another one.

I LOVE LOVE LOVE I will run to you. I think it's a great song. I genuinely don't understand why people hate it so much. I'd love to see her and Tom sing it live today, I think they'd do it awesomely.

Me too!!! It's a shame it didn't become a big hit. It was a hit on the Mainstream Rock charts, reaching #35.


Also, I love "Maybe Love", "Blue Denim", "Whole Lotta Trouble", "I Still Miss Someone (Blue Eyes)", "Just Like A Woman", "Jane", and "Sable on Blonde".

[TheWILDheart]

I don't think there's anything that bogs down Bella Donna or TISL. I even love "Love Changes" and "That Made Me Stronger", which seem to get a lot of flack.

TWH has "I Will Run To You", which is a bit of a nothing-y song. It's perfectly pleasant and I don't think it's terrible. I'm kind of indifferent too it. I love "Gate & Garden" too.

RAL has "The Nightmare", which is a nightmare. I've replaced it with "Mirror Mirror" on my playlist.

OSOTM has "I Still Miss Someone". I agree that this is unnecessary. I also can't stand "Fire Burning".

SA has "Jane" and "Unconditional Love". I've never liked either. "Unconditional Love" came on shuffle the other day and I almost had to rip my own ears off just have to something to throw at the speakers.

IYD has "Cheaper Than Free". This song irritates me, because I love the music and guitar work on it, but the lyrics are just such utter tripe.

24KG? Well, let's not even go there :rolleyes:

[Artemis]

I think 24KG (the song) is the finest thing she's recorded as a solo artist since Stand Back. That is how highly I regard it.

I just wish wish wish she'd kept the "Set me free, let me be" lyric. It's that little touch better.

[Aussie W/Heart]

I agree 24 KG (the song) is perfect in everyway.. my favorite on the album along with Mable Normand and ATBW.. my 3 go to songs whilst driving to and from work everyday :eek: i think i need to give it a break before i completely overdose :D

[iamnotafraid]

Most unpopular Stevie opinions...

Well I guess I'd have to say that Barry was the best
thing that ever happened to her.

[redbird]

- Stevie's best overall solo album? Trouble in Shangri-La
I only listen to half that album, but if that half was its own album then I might just agree with you. The stuff on TISL that is good is so good. And anyway it's definitely among my favorites of her records, nothing weird about that opinion at all.

- Lady is by far the worst single she's ever released. It's such a snore and reminds me of a performance you'd see at a retirement home during a talent show. The music video absolutely cements that image even further into my mind.
I like the song but the video made me cringe. Goodness.

I think 24KG (the song) is the finest thing she's recorded as a solo artist since Stand Back. That is how highly I regard it.I don't know specifically how I'd rate it but it's a terrific song. I always loved the demo and I think she really did it justice (which I don't always feel about her old-demos-turned-new-tracks).

[Newzchspy]

Most unpopular Stevie opinions...

Well I guess I'd have to say that Barry was the best
thing that ever happened to her.

I think that BOTH Barry and Stevie would disagree :)

[Macfanforever]

I' have a brain fart.Whos Barry.

[Dreamz19]

It's one of my favorites too. I like it much more than SDMHA.

Same here. I always preferred it over SDMHA.

[Dreamz19]

I like a lot of the drag downs mentioned, but for me

BD - The Highwayman
TWH - I don't really consider any song a drag down on this album. I listen to NEC and IAF the least tho.
RAL - The Nightmare
TOSOTM - Fire Burning. I could probably add more since this is the only Stevie solo album I rarely listen to.
SA - Destiny and Jane
TISL - Love Changes and I Miss You
IYD - Cheaper Than Free
24KG - I Don't Care and Cathouse Blues

[iamnotafraid]

I think that BOTH Barry and Stevie would disagree :)

You're probably right. It was definitely a contentious relationship.
It seems she likes the ones who throw things at her. Whether it's
guitars or banana peels.

Macfanforever,
"Who's Barry?" Think the Street Angel period, or perhaps the
infamous limo tapes. I could go on, but his story kind of tears
me up. And I don't like to cry in front of you all.

[Macfanforever]

You're probably right. It was definitely a contentious relationship.
It seems she likes the ones who throw things at her. Whether it's
guitars or banana peels.

Macfanforever,
"Who's Barry?" Think the Street Angel period, or perhaps the
infamous limo tapes. I could go on, but his story kind of tears
me up. And I don't like to cry in front of you all.

OK thanks.I think I remember. I dont want you to zap out your computer keyboard or your Iphone when the waterfalls of tears flood them out.LOL.......