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StevieNicksfann
03-30-2015, 09:12 PM
Any news on the fate of these two songs? I am hoping they return but regardless, can someone ask Mick at a meet and greet or let him know the fans miss these songs? :)
PenguinHead
03-31-2015, 12:24 AM
I am hoping they return but regardless, can someone ask Mick at a meet and greet or let him know the fans miss these songs? :)
Is that a question?
It's matter of personal choice, but if I had a chance to meet Mick, I would not squander the brief moment with comment like that. It's a back handed complaint about a decision he didn't make.
jbrownsjr
03-31-2015, 03:44 AM
How is asking about the setlist change a complaint?
MikeVielhaber
03-31-2015, 04:06 AM
How is asking about the setlist change a complaint?
Saying you miss the songs, implying you want them back, could be construed as a complaint. But on the other hand all they did was shrink their set so I think there's good reason for complaint and not because of the specific songs being cut.
ViscountViktor
03-31-2015, 05:12 AM
They cut Seven Wonders because Stevie can't sing it anymore: it was getting quite painful to listen to in the last couple of shows.
Songbird, I can see that returning for Europe, Christine's hands probably just need a rest!
JohnL
03-31-2015, 06:01 AM
They cut Seven Wonders because Stevie can't sing it anymore: it was getting quite painful to listen to in the last couple of shows.
Songbird, I can see that returning for Europe, Christine's hands probably just need a rest!
I will tell you that Seven Wonders was AWESOME when I saw them in Tampa in December. She had no trouble belting out that song. I loved it.
MikeVielhaber
03-31-2015, 06:13 AM
They cut Seven Wonders because Stevie can't sing it anymore: it was getting quite painful to listen to in the last couple of shows.
Songbird, I can see that returning for Europe, Christine's hands probably just need a rest!
Then they should replace it something she can sing. Is it so hard to have rehearsed some alternates?
lulu28
03-31-2015, 07:35 AM
I will tell you that Seven Wonders was AWESOME when I saw them in Tampa in December. She had no trouble belting out that song. I loved it.
It was great in Knoxville too. It sounds like she might have already been suffering from a sore throat that night, but she didn't have any problem with the song. We might have been the last ones to get to see her perform it on stage. I hope not!!! :(
The Highwayman
03-31-2015, 09:13 AM
I will tell you that Seven Wonders was AWESOME when I saw them in Tampa in December. She had no trouble belting out that song. I loved it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJMP-uoPfoQ
Yeah, pretty good performance. Dunno how hard it was for her to sing it, though.
jbrownsjr
03-31-2015, 09:16 AM
I saw it 3 times in LA and it was great! Thought she struggled with SOTM a bit.
michelej1
03-31-2015, 02:45 PM
It's matter of personal choice, but if I had a chance to meet Mick, I would not squander the brief moment with comment like that. It's a back handed complaint about a decision he didn't make.
Seeing that the meet and greets cost $750 and up, I think Mick can stand to hear a complaint or two in exchange. Besides, if he responds with substantive information that might help fans understand and accept choices that have been made and give HIM insight into the fan response that can be a good thing. Michele
Having been to a few Meet & Greets in the US, my opinion is that Mick would not mind that question at all. I assume any Ledgie would ask it in a respectful manner! If anyone gets the chance - please ask!
Macfan4life
03-31-2015, 06:29 PM
I think Seven Wonders was cut to shorten the set. Stevie always does this every tour. I will NEVER forgive her for dropping Stop Dragging My Heart Around midway/late Enchanted Tour :eek:
I think Songbird was cut for a different reason. I saw Chris wearing a black glove during parts of the Miami show. Her hand may be hurt and playing a piano alone may be risky, may cause her pain, or could make her condition worse. I would not expect to see Songbird again until maybe she fully recovers. Carpal tunnel is a bitch. I suffered with it before. It actually never goes away but gets aggravated and comes back.
The Highwayman
03-31-2015, 06:36 PM
I think Seven Wonders was cut to shorten the set. Stevie always does this every tour. I will NEVER forgive her for dropping Stop Dragging My Heart Around midway/late Enchanted Tour :eek:
I saw Stevie midway/late through Enchanted Tour (well, late July) and I didn't miss SDMHA one bit. I never liked it when she sang that with anyone other than Tom...well, Dave Grohl too I suppose. I mean, Waddy just can't sing.
I saw Stevie midway/late through Enchanted Tour (well, late July) and I didn't miss SDMHA one bit. I never liked it when she sang that with anyone other than Tom...well, Dave Grohl too I suppose. I mean, Waddy just can't sing.
I saw a couple of Enchanted shows later in the tour, and Waddy wasn't there. It was Frank Sims (?). But now I'm curious as to who sang Tom's parts...
On topic - I think "Seven Wonders" has sounded great every time I've heard it on this tour; if she's struggling with anything, it's "SotM".
And I'd rather see them stop adding shows than cut songs from the existing dates. Get off the damn road and get into the studio already! :nod:
The Highwayman
03-31-2015, 10:10 PM
I saw a couple of Enchanted shows later in the tour, and Waddy wasn't there. It was Frank Sims (?). But now I'm curious as to who sang Tom's parts...
On topic - I think "Seven Wonders" has sounded great every time I've heard it on this tour; if she's struggling with anything, it's "SotM".
And I'd rather see them stop adding shows than cut songs from the existing dates. Get off the damn road and get into the studio already! :nod:
Oh yeah. Well it was a long time ago, I forgot, no Waddy.
I do agree about 'Seven Wonders'. I haven't seen FM live this tour (or ever, sadly) but I've seen some performances of it on Youtube, and enjoyed them all. Whether or not it's hard for Stevie to sing it now, I hope it comes back at some point. It's a great song.
PenguinHead
03-31-2015, 10:33 PM
Saying you miss the songs, implying you want them back, could be construed as a complaint.
Class or crass?
Thank you for understanding what I meant. If I had a once in a lifetime opportunity to have a brief intimate moment with someone of stature, I'd rather use it give praise and show respect.
PenguinHead
03-31-2015, 10:52 PM
Seeing that the meet and greets cost $750 and up, I think Mick can stand to hear a complaint or two in exchange. Besides, if he responds with substantive information that might help fans understand and accept choices that have been made and give HIM insight into the fan response that can be a good thing. Michele
You got me! :laugh: I can't dispute that. Good job!
aleuzzi
03-31-2015, 11:49 PM
I think Christine's dropping of Songbird has to do with her hand.
Maybe Seven Wonders was dropped because Stevie is trying to preserve her voice a bit. It must be really tough to sing night after night the way she is doing and not risk some decline in energy, etc. Her soar throat issue has happened on several of the band's big tours before. So maybe she's using a tad of prevention as medicine, scaling back a wee bit.
I personally wouldn't mind seeing some of the vocals dropped in favor of instrumental extensions on the songs, a little bit of jamming and some inspired set-piece solos maybe? I wish.
jbrownsjr
04-01-2015, 08:22 AM
I think Christine's dropping of Songbird has to do with her hand.
Maybe Seven Wonders was dropped because Stevie is trying to preserve her voice a bit. It must be really tough to sing night after night the way she is doing and not risk some decline in energy, etc. Her soar throat issue has happened on several of the band's big tours before. So maybe she's using a tad of prevention as medicine, scaling back a wee bit.
I personally wouldn't mind seeing some of the vocals dropped in favor of instrumental extensions on the songs, a little bit of jamming and some inspired set-piece solos maybe? I wish.
That would mean they would have to improvise??? yikes!!! can you imagine... ???? :laugh:
aleuzzi
04-01-2015, 04:21 PM
That would mean they would have to improvise??? yikes!!! can you imagine... ???? :laugh:
In the words of Christine, albeit in another context: "that is pretty weird."
Macfan4life
04-01-2015, 05:25 PM
I saw Stevie midway/late through Enchanted Tour (well, late July) and I didn't miss SDMHA one bit. I never liked it when she sang that with anyone other than Tom...well, Dave Grohl too I suppose. I mean, Waddy just can't sing.
Waddy was not on the Enchanted Tour
StevieNicksfann
04-01-2015, 08:55 PM
I think Christine's dropping of Songbird has to do with her hand.
Maybe Seven Wonders was dropped because Stevie is trying to preserve her voice a bit. It must be really tough to sing night after night the way she is doing and not risk some decline in energy, etc. Her soar throat issue has happened on several of the band's big tours before. So maybe she's using a tad of prevention as medicine, scaling back a wee bit.
I personally wouldn't mind seeing some of the vocals dropped in favor of instrumental extensions on the songs, a little bit of jamming and some inspired set-piece solos maybe? I wish.
In terms of voice durability, I think Silver Springs is a tougher song to sing night after night which is why I fear Seven Wonders got dropped for some other reason. I hope it's not because she feels fans weren't feeling it or that they didn't respond to the song. As I've said in another thread, my brother has not heard that song in over 20 years and it was the main reason he'd spend over $200 to see a fleetwood mac concert especially since by deleting that song, there's no difference in terms of Stevie's songs from the last tour. As much as I love SOTM, dropping that and keeping Seven Wonders would at least keep this tour different for Stevie material - not to mention it was a top 20 hit vs SOTM. I hope she puts the song back!
michelej1
04-01-2015, 09:09 PM
In terms of voice durability, I think Silver Springs is a tougher song to sing night after night which is why I fear Seven Wonders got dropped for some other reason.
SS may cause more of a strain, but it's more expected by the audience than Seven Wonders.
Michele
aleuzzi
04-02-2015, 01:16 PM
As much as I love SOTM, dropping that and keeping Seven Wonders would at least keep this tour different for Stevie material - not to mention it was a top 20 hit vs SOTM. I hope she puts the song back!
It would also be more of a balance in terms of album representation. Putting Seven Wonders back in would mean there were at least five songs from the set that post-date Tusk. That kind of balance is important.
wheart
04-02-2015, 01:42 PM
I saw a couple of Enchanted shows later in the tour, and Waddy wasn't there. It was Frank Sims (?). But now I'm curious as to who sang Tom's parts...
On topic - I think "Seven Wonders" has sounded great every time I've heard it on this tour; if she's struggling with anything, it's "SotM".
And I'd rather see them stop adding shows than cut songs from the existing dates. Get off the damn road and get into the studio already! :nod:
Pretty sure Frank sang Tom's parts on SDMHA. Sounded way better than Waddy.
StevieNicksfann
04-03-2015, 09:56 AM
SS may cause more of a strain, but it's more expected by the audience than Seven Wonders.
Michele
Hence my comment that I fear Seven Wonders got dropped for some other reason...
The Juggler
04-03-2015, 11:57 AM
I'd say it's Stevie herself who got sick of it, from the videos I watched she's going through the motions with the song. She didn't even write it, so I'd say she is just bored with it.
Pity for the likes of me, who was looking forward to hearing it.
BlueDenimLamp
04-03-2015, 12:00 PM
Hence my comment that I fear Seven Wonders got dropped for some other reason...
Got tired of paying Sandy Stewart.
twinmatrix
04-03-2015, 01:08 PM
I'd say it's Stevie herself who got sick of it, from the videos I watched she's going through the motions with the song. She didn't even write it, so I'd say she is just bored with it.
Pity for the likes of me, who was looking forward to hearing it.
+1 Seven Wonders is beautiful... so is Songbird. :(
michelej1
04-03-2015, 01:44 PM
I'd say it's Stevie herself who got sick of it, from the videos I watched she's going through the motions with the song. She didn't even write it, so I'd say she is just bored with it.
But she seemed to really like linking it to American Horror Story. Michele
twinmatrix
04-03-2015, 02:42 PM
But she seemed to really like linking it to American Horror Story. Michele
I'm sad that is gone. I was going to shout COVEN!!! before the song started and record her saying "American Horror Story", my favorite TV show. :(
dontlookdown
04-03-2015, 05:05 PM
Mixed feelings about Seven Wonders. It was for the most part, written by Sandy Stewart.
So that alone can make it a contender for one of the first to go on this tour.
It also has always been considered one of the worst studio vocal performances by Stevie Nicks on a Fleetwood Mac album. I know people love it, but it's not even close to an "essential" Fleetwood Mac or Stevie Nicks song.
The arrangement on this tour sounded great but I sort of see it as a bathroom/drink break opportunity; and on this tour no song should qualify for that.
I wince when I hear it on Tango In The Night. (But I wince when I hear every Stevie Nicks song on that album). I guess for me, it's just not up to the standards of the rest of the set list -- a disposable Fleetwood Mac track, if there can be one.
The bigger mystery for me is why they cut Sara from this year's tour. Last year it was about as perfect as it's been since 1979. I loved the new arrangement and the weaving of vocals from Lindsey at the end. I think it was triumphant and I won't be surprised if it finds it's way back in the set list on the next leg overseas.
I'm not sure that the solo piano is the issue with Songbird. From a few youtube videos I heard, it sounded like Chris was really struggling with her voice at points with this song. Maybe they felt it was better to end on more of an up/energetic note.
I would vote for the return of Sara and Sad Angel. Seven Wonders can be put to bed for good as far as I'm concerned.
Macfanforever
04-03-2015, 06:07 PM
I love Sevenwonders and glad to hear it live months ago.Songbird is OK.
I'm still shock that Hold Me did not make the setlist.
Macfanforever
04-03-2015, 06:16 PM
I think Christine's dropping of Songbird has to do with her hand.
Maybe Seven Wonders was dropped because Stevie is trying to preserve her voice a bit. It must be really tough to sing night after night the way she is doing and not risk some decline in energy, etc. Her soar throat issue has happened on several of the band's big tours before. So maybe she's using a tad of prevention as medicine, scaling back a wee bit.
I personally wouldn't mind seeing some of the vocals dropped in favor of instrumental extensions on the songs, a little bit of jamming and some inspired set-piece solos maybe? I wish.
More likely Stevie is saving her voice.
Its still a mystery to me about what happen to Chris's hand.
They always can play a medley of tunes.
michelej1
04-03-2015, 10:49 PM
I don't miss 7W as a song, but when something happens that brings them to the attention of a new audience like American Horror Story or the pony moonwalking commercial, I think they should capitalize on it.
That's why I'm eager for Everywhere to get to the UK.
Michele
seekerj
04-04-2015, 08:07 AM
It also has always been considered one of the worst studio vocal performances by Stevie Nicks on a Fleetwood Mac album.
By whom?? Lindsey wouldn't even let her rerecord the vocal when she realized she sang the wrong words because he thought that vocal take was so great.
AncientQueen
04-04-2015, 08:15 AM
By whom?? Lindsey wouldn't even let her rerecord the vocal when she realized she sang the wrong words because he thought that vocal take was so great.
By me, for example :). I hated it from the day TITN came out and that has never changed. I'm actually glad it is no longer on the setlist, even Stevie reading from a telephone book would please me more.
Richard B
04-04-2015, 10:09 AM
A shame about Seven Wonders getting dropped. AHS made it popular again. On YouTube, I think the music video has more views than any other FM video since AHS. Go figure. I also liked it back on the Shake The Cage Tour.
Anyway. If she's bored with it, why drop it and not put something else in its place? Say You Will would be fun, especially with Christine adding something to it too. Even Sad Angel would be nice to hear again.
mottabam
04-04-2015, 11:37 AM
Mixed feelings about Seven Wonders. It was for the most part, written by Sandy Stewart.
So that alone can make it a contender for one of the first to go on this tour.
It also has always been considered one of the worst studio vocal performances by Stevie Nicks on a Fleetwood Mac album. I know people love it, but it's not even close to an "essential" Fleetwood Mac or Stevie Nicks song.
The arrangement on this tour sounded great but I sort of see it as a bathroom/drink break opportunity; and on this tour no song should qualify for that.
I wince when I hear it on Tango In The Night. (But I wince when I hear every Stevie Nicks song on that album). I guess for me, it's just not up to the standards of the rest of the set list -- a disposable Fleetwood Mac track, if there can be one.
The bigger mystery for me is why they cut Sara from this year's tour. Last year it was about as perfect as it's been since 1979. I loved the new arrangement and the weaving of vocals from Lindsey at the end. I think it was triumphant and I won't be surprised if it finds it's way back in the set list on the next leg overseas.
I'm not sure that the solo piano is the issue with Songbird. From a few youtube videos I heard, it sounded like Chris was really struggling with her voice at points with this song. Maybe they felt it was better to end on more of an up/energetic note.
I would vote for the return of Sara and Sad Angel. Seven Wonders can be put to bed for good as far as I'm concerned.
I enjoyed those two selections on the 2013 tour. Would also like to hear Ms. Fantasy live at some point in the future.
FuzzyPlum
04-04-2015, 02:18 PM
It also has always been considered one of the worst studio vocal performances by Stevie Nicks on a Fleetwood Mac album.
-- a disposable Fleetwood Mac track, if there can be one.
By me, for example :). I hated it from the day TITN came out and that has never changed. I'm actually glad it is no longer on the setlist, even Stevie reading from a telephone book would please me more.
Everyone is entitled to have their own opinion...
...but you are wrong, Seven Wonders is absolutely brilliant ;)
secondhandchain
04-04-2015, 02:20 PM
By whom?? Lindsey wouldn't even let her rerecord the vocal when she realized she sang the wrong words because he thought that vocal take was so great.
I agree that it's one of the worst (embarrassingly so) vocal performances of SN on a FM album. She's had some pretty bad ones (Rock A little album) on her own, but this is her at her worst vocal excess phase.
secondhandchain
04-04-2015, 02:22 PM
I never heard she sang the wrong words on Seven Wonders. Does anyone know this story? Is this why she sounds marbled mouthed on some parts?
dontlookdown
04-04-2015, 02:38 PM
Since Tango In The Night, Stevie's voice has improved markedly on all of her albums and Fleetwood Mac's.
I've even noticed great leaps between Trouble In Shangri La and In Your Dreams. And also from In Your Dreams to 24k Gold.
So much more depth, character and control.
It's shocking to go back to Rock a Little and TITN now.
She really re-launched her career by taking care of her voice.
Now we need to get Lindsey to work on his. :)
sywlindseyfan
04-04-2015, 02:52 PM
Has anybody heard if Chris is playing Songbird again yet?
Macfan4life
04-04-2015, 04:53 PM
I don't miss 7W as a song, but when something happens that brings them to the attention of a new audience like American Horror Story or the pony moonwalking commercial, I think they should capitalize on it.
That's why I'm eager for Everywhere to get to the UK.
Michele
I'm with you. I cant wait to see Everywhere performed in England. I wonder how many dancing ponies will be there.
Dodfather
04-04-2015, 08:25 PM
Nooooooo! I've been trying to stay away from tour news in anticipation of the NZ dates. I'll be absolutely gutted if neither of those tunes are in the setlist in November. Both of them are ones I never, ever thought I'd see live, Seven Wonders especially is one of my favourites, so if they're still cut... damnit. Very silly choice to make since they're both so popular.
nicole21290
04-05-2015, 02:11 AM
Still out, as of Vancouver tonight. This is Lindsey's setlist:
http://40.media.tumblr.com/87d0d688d8c2dd306b31e8b8774c2bb1/tumblr_nmbn986hw71tlsa43o1_500.jpg
FuzzyPlum
04-05-2015, 05:33 AM
I never heard she sang the wrong words on Seven Wonders. Does anyone know this story? Is this why she sounds marbled mouthed on some parts?
When listening to the demo made by Sandy Stewart Stevie misheard the words 'all the way down you held the line' and instead sang 'all the way down to Emmeline'. After singing it this way it was kept in which allowed Stevie to receive a writers credit.
I think she sings it just great- when you say 'marble-mouthed' are you referring to the second 'well you know I'm sorry but...' ? I've always loved that part of the song.
So hope this is back in for Europe.
johnnystorms
04-05-2015, 05:53 AM
I can't fathom why it's considered a "horrible" vocal. I think it's a great, emphatic vocal, one of the best she's done.
jcalzaretta
04-05-2015, 08:27 AM
I saw this show 5 times - in full. Seven Wonders was amazing each time and was very well received.
pattyfan
04-05-2015, 01:34 PM
I am not a big fan of Seven Wonders but I don't hate it either. However, I really enjoyed it live because it was something different. Ditto Little Lies. (By different, I mean something that they haven't played so much live).
For me knowing that Seven Wonders and Songbird were in the original setlists and have now been dropped makes me much less inclined to see them live again. I have never missed a Mac or SN/LB solo show in the Bay Area, but I saw them twice this tour already and now that the show will be two songs shorter, I'm for sure not going to go.
That said, I hope everyone enjoys their shows. :)
Kevin
BlueLight
04-05-2015, 02:13 PM
Still out, as of Vancouver tonight. This is Lindsey's setlist:
http://40.media.tumblr.com/87d0d688d8c2dd306b31e8b8774c2bb1/tumblr_nmbn986hw71tlsa43o1_500.jpg
Thanks for posting! Interesting that the two songs are simply scratched out. Perhaps an indication that they aren't permanently dropped?
nicepace
04-05-2015, 04:43 PM
I really think they ought to replace the two songs, not just drop them. Especially "Songbird." It's been so long since Chris performed, it seems a real shame for her part of the show to be reduced. A lot of fans would like to hear "Hold Me," for instance, or how about one of those lovely ballads from 'Tusk' that are being praised in another thread?
FuzzyPlum
04-05-2015, 05:02 PM
I really think they ought to replace the two songs, not just drop them. Especially "Songbird." It's been so long since Chris performed, it seems a real shame for her part of the show to be reduced. A lot of fans would like to hear "Hold Me," for instance, or how about one of those lovely ballads from 'Tusk' that are being praised in another thread?
If they are able to replace them they shouldn't drop them.
They must be dropped either due to Christine's hand injury and protection for Stevie's voice or because they are so exhausted and need to cut the set down. I don't think they are cut because they particularly want to cut those songs.
By the way, has Seven Wonders been a comfort break/drinks break song? If not, what song/songs are the closest in this regard?
Hawkeye
04-05-2015, 05:25 PM
Maybe this means absolutely nothing. But songbird is just crossed out in red and seven wonders is crossed out in red and black.
WayOfTheDragon
04-05-2015, 07:11 PM
By the way, has Seven Wonders been a comfort break/drinks break song? If not, what song/songs are the closest in this regard?
My bathroom break moment is usually during either Never Going Back Again or the Big Love intro speech. I wouldn't leave during Seven Wonders because it's such a rarity to hear live.
pattyfan
04-05-2015, 07:42 PM
If I remember correctly, a lot of people left for a bathroom break during I Know I'm Not Wrong and/or Sisters of the Moon. Go figure.
Kevin
HomerMcvie
04-05-2015, 11:17 PM
By the way, has Seven Wonders been a comfort break/drinks break song? If not, what song/songs are the closest in this regard?
Big Love is my pee song. I've heard it too many times. Now, if they'd do the full band version, I would stay and pee my pants!!! :blob2::blob2::woohoo:
StevieNicksfann
04-06-2015, 12:04 AM
Everyone is entitled to have their own opinion...
...but you are wrong, Seven Wonders is absolutely brilliant ;)
I agree. Seven Wonders is (in spite of the shape her voice was in at the time) one of her best vocals ever. So much personality in it. That song is brilliant and even her rendition of it now sounded inspired. My only criticism is that it sounds like they were playing it slow. But nevertheless, I wish it were still in the set.
wheart
04-06-2015, 11:36 AM
My bathroom break moment is usually during either Never Going Back Again or the Big Love intro speech. I wouldn't leave during Seven Wonders because it's such a rarity to hear live.
Yup! I went during the Big Love intro speech and didn't even miss one note of the song. I got back to my seat just as the song began. Of course I didn't plan it that way but it was amusing nonetheless.
Fannymac
04-06-2015, 01:30 PM
"Songbird" is such an iconic way to close the show.....personally, I wouldn't mind if Chris just stood there with someone else playing behind her!
MikeVielhaber
04-06-2015, 05:56 PM
"Songbird" is such an iconic way to close the show.....personally, I wouldn't mind if Chris just stood there with someone else playing behind her!
It wouldn't be quite as iconic then, now would it?
golden braid
04-07-2015, 04:24 AM
I spoke to Sharon after the Bakersfield show last night and I asked her what happened to Songbird and Seven Wonders. She said that the band is just tired after performing so many shows with such a long set list. She added that Seven Wonders is hard for Stevie to sing also. She said that they've been considering doing the songs again each night but then the set list is too long. I told her I loved hearing Seven Wonders but it probably won't help.
MikeVielhaber
04-07-2015, 04:46 AM
I spoke to Sharon after the Bakersfield show last night and I asked her what happened to Songbird and Seven Wonders. She said that the band is just tired after performing so many shows with such a long set list. She added that Seven Wonders is hard for Stevie to sing also. She said that they've been considering doing the songs again each night but then the set list is too long. I told her I loved hearing Seven Wonders but it probably won't help.
Maybe what they should do is not do so many shows. Rather than just cutting 2 songs from the set, one of which doesn't involve the whole band and is pretty non-strenuous. You know, this audience is still going to be here if you took a break to do an album. If they're willing to come back after only 3-4 months at these prices and with the exact same setlist except fewer songs then they'll still be there in a year with a new set list.
twinmatrix
04-07-2015, 07:12 AM
You guys take bathroom breaks during a concert? Da**** lol.
Hope they add SEVEN WONDERS and Songbird back in for Europe leg. :c
wheart
04-07-2015, 08:12 AM
I spoke to Sharon after the Bakersfield show last night and I asked her what happened to Songbird and Seven Wonders. She said that the band is just tired after performing so many shows with such a long set list. She added that Seven Wonders is hard for Stevie to sing also. She said that they've been considering doing the songs again each night but then the set list is too long. I told her I loved hearing Seven Wonders but it probably won't help.
Interesting. That makes sense I guess. They did all seem a bit sluggish on the clips from the 4/4 show.
FuzzyPlum
04-07-2015, 11:50 AM
Hmmm.
I can kind of understand Chris feeling it a bit as she isn't used to touring and she's older than the other two vocalists. Stevie's on the stage for less time than the other two though and is singing far less lead then she has done on the last few tours. Its a bit disappointing.
We know Lindsey can handle the exertion as he's already said as much in recent interviews. Perhaps if they are cutting Chris and Stevie songs they should allow Lindsey and extra one.
StevieNicksfann
04-07-2015, 12:24 PM
I spoke to Sharon after the Bakersfield show last night and I asked her what happened to Songbird and Seven Wonders. She said that the band is just tired after performing so many shows with such a long set list. She added that Seven Wonders is hard for Stevie to sing also. She said that they've been considering doing the songs again each night but then the set list is too long. I told her I loved hearing Seven Wonders but it probably won't help.
Thank you for taking the initiative to find out! I agree it's disappointing that Seven Wonders is the casualty when it is such a rarity. And although I also love Sisters, even that would be a better choice in terms of chart position as well as making this tour different with respect to Stevie's material.
I also agree it's a shame that Songbird is cut when people haven't seen Christine in 16 years. I hate to say it but cutting I Know I'm Not Wrong would be better to shorten the set and add Songbird and/or Seven Wonders back
nicepace
04-07-2015, 06:05 PM
I am really disappointed to hear that they have dropped "Songbird" in the interest of shortening the show and not because (as we had speculated) that Christine had hurt her hand. Personally I think that cutting "Songbird" is a bad mistake. It is such an iconic song for Christine, and for so many years was their last encore song. I would have been dreadfully disappointed if they had ended the show I saw with any other song.
To clarify, I'm glad Christine hasn't hurt her hand, but am sorry to see "Songbird" go.
jbrownsjr
04-07-2015, 09:45 PM
I am really disappointed to hear that they have dropped "Songbird" in the interest of shortening the show and not because (as we had speculated) that Christine had hurt her hand. Personally I think that cutting "Songbird" is a bad mistake. It is such an iconic song for Christine, and for so many years was their last encore song. I would have been dreadfully disappointed if they had ended the show I saw with any other song.
To clarify, I'm glad Christine hasn't hurt her hand, but am sorry to see "Songbird" go.
They cut Songbird from the Dance Cd, too. ehhhhh That's an important tune. :(
aleuzzi
04-07-2015, 10:36 PM
I also agree it's a shame that Songbird is cut when people haven't seen Christine in 16 years. I hate to say it but cutting I Know I'm Not Wrong would be better to shorten the set and add Songbird and/or Seven Wonders back
Agreed. But if Christine wants one of her songs dropped, "over My Head"--as pleasant as it is--would be more preferable than "Songbird."
secondhandchain
04-07-2015, 10:46 PM
I just don't understand why the booked a tour this big and long. They are coming back to LA at the forum for a fifth show. They are in your 60's, 70's. Are they trying to drive Chris out of the band again?
vivfox
04-07-2015, 11:05 PM
Agreed. But if Christine wants one of her songs dropped, "over My Head"--as pleasant as it is--would be more preferable than "Songbird."
OMH was a huge radio hit. Songbird was just an album cut.
vivfox
04-07-2015, 11:07 PM
I just don't understand why the booked a tour this big and long. They are coming back to LA at the forum for a fifth show. They are in your 60's, 70's. Are they trying to drive Chris out of the band again?
Do you know how thrilling it must be for them to sell out 5 nights at The Forum? I bet Christine is thrilled and astonished she was missed so much.
michelej1
04-08-2015, 12:44 PM
OMH was a huge radio hit. Songbird was just an album cut.
True, but Songbird has gained status as a setpiece, coming at the end of the show, no matter what it meant for the album.
Michele
TheWILDheart
04-10-2015, 07:01 AM
Do you know how thrilling it must be for them to sell out 5 nights at The Forum? I bet Christine is thrilled and astonished she was missed so much.
They've sold out all 6 nights at the O2 Arena in London - that's 108,000 tickets!
Dodfather
04-11-2015, 01:19 AM
I would remove I Know I'm Not Wrong or Big Love (obviously not fair to remove both for Lindsey) and also Sisters Of The Moon or Over My Head.
If Sisters stays then maybe re-order the setlist so that there's more than one song (Say You Love Me) between that and Seven Wonders, giving Stevie's voice a longer chance to rest. Maybe move it towards the end, between I'm So Afraid and Go Your Own Way.
Either way, removing Seven Wonders would be a huge mistake for the European and Aus/NZ legs - Tango was a huge album in both territories.
As for Songbird, taking that out at all is just ridiculous.
Danielle
04-11-2015, 01:21 AM
According to twitter, Songbird was back at The Forum tonight.
Fannymac
04-13-2015, 02:53 PM
It was.....and it was AMAZING!!!!!!:blob2::blob1::blob2:
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