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DauphineMarie
03-26-2015, 10:50 PM
I was listening to a bootleg of the Wild Heart Tour show from Tulsa, Oklahoma on 11 November 1983, and Stevie announces that the new album is going to be called Rock a Little. Now I know she has said in multiple interviews that she knew what the new album was going to be called before Wild Heart came out, but I guess I don't know where Mirror, Mirror fits in. Was it the original working title for RAL? Was it a separate project? Was it done alongside the Wild Heart? I always thought that Mirror Mirror was the original title for Rock a Little, but I guess not now. Anyways, I guess I thought Mirror Mirror came first, and then was scrapped for RAL, but that's evidently not true.

Additionally, she improvises a "watch chain" and "I've always been a storm" during Sara from this show ;)

PenguinHead
03-26-2015, 11:49 PM
I was listening to a bootleg of the Wild Heart Tour show from Tulsa, Oklahoma on 11 November 1983, and Stevie announces that the new album is going to be called Rock a Little. Now I know she has said in multiple interviews that she knew what the new album was going to be called before Wild Heart came out, but I guess I don't know where Mirror, Mirror fits in. Was it the original working title for RAL? Was it a separate project?

Interesting mystery. How strange for her to share with an audience the title of an album that is two years away. We generally assumed the album was initially titled Mirror Mirror.

Perhaps it was just someone's assumption that got passed around for so long that it became our truth. Are there any official articles or press reports that state the original title was Mirror Mirror? I always thought she changed the title to Rock a Little because the song Mirror Mirror was withheld from the album.

Was the b-side Mirror Mirror released years later from that session, or a remake?

BlueLight
03-27-2015, 09:07 AM
Very interesting!

I believe the cassette B-side was indeed from those Jimmy Iovine sessions. From what I recall, the album originally had a 1984 release date, but that was bumped after she and Iovine parted ways.

Stevie referenced the Mirror Mirror title in several interviews. Here's one from an Atlantic Records interview:

"The Other Side of the Mirror came from…well first it was going to be Mirror Mirror, that was going to the name of Rock A Little. And then, because the song Mirror Mirror didn't end up going on the record because I didn't like the way it turned out, I changed it to Rock A Little because Rock A Little became the lead song."

BlueDenimLamp
03-27-2015, 09:55 AM
"Mirror Mirror" was to be the follow up to "Wild Heart" ..."Mirror Mirror" was all but finished and then Stevie changed her mind and scraped the whole project and started over with what is now "Rock A Little"...

Travis
03-27-2015, 10:29 AM
"Mirror Mirror" was to be the follow up to "Wild Heart" ..."Mirror Mirror" was all but finished and then Stevie changed her mind and scraped the whole project and started over with what is now "Rock A Little"...

Also interesting to note that during a RAL radio interview, she mentioned that she had the title "Rock A Little" in her head even before Bella Donna was released.

welcomechris
03-27-2015, 01:40 PM
Also interesting to note that during a RAL radio interview, she mentioned that she had the title "Rock A Little" in her head even before Bella Donna was released.

The song "Rock A Little" was written in 1981

MikeInNV
03-27-2015, 03:04 PM
I can't remember the source, but I knew the album's title was Rock A Little long before it was ever released.

Macfan4life
03-27-2015, 04:56 PM
I would love to hear the audio. I also remember hearing it was going to be called Rock A Little years before it was released. It was not until years after RAL was released that we learned the entire store and true story....How Jimmy quit the project, drugs were in the way, and most of the album was scrapped in 1984 to begin again.

I remember being 14 and a HUGE Stevie fan and opening up Rolling Stone magazine in a convenience store and reading a small article that Stevie was putting the finishing touches on her next solo album. This was mid 1984 and was so excited. It was a year and a half later that the album was released.

But back to the stage audio. In Nov 1983 she probably had rough tracks and was playing around more than serious album tracks. Names can change all the time. I think I remember that Tusk was not named until the album was finished and Stevie threatened to quit the band because of the name.

BlueDenimLamp
03-27-2015, 05:46 PM
"Mirror Mirror" was a separate project from "Rock A Little"...Stevie was unhappy with "Mirror Mirror" as whole and decided to start over with new songs this became "Rock A Little"...If Stevie had not scrapped "Mirror Mirror" it would have been her 3rd record and "Rock a little would have been the 4th

An excerpt from her wiki page...

Following the tour for The Wild Heart, Nicks commenced work on her third solo album. Originally titled Mirror Mirror, Nicks recorded songs for the album during 1984. However, Nicks was unhappy with the album, and opted to record a new batch of songs in 1985.[55] Rock A Little, as it was re-titled, was released November 18, 1985 to commercial success, supported by three successful singles. Stevie Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stevie_Nicks)

Back then Stevie had things planned out 2 or 3 records in advance...Perhaps FM should of put Stevie in charge of things back then maybe they might have made more records...

DauphineMarie
03-27-2015, 09:24 PM
I would love to hear the audio. I also remember hearing it was going to be called Rock A Little years before it was released. It was not until years after RAL was released that we learned the entire store and true story....How Jimmy quit the project, drugs were in the way, and most of the album was scrapped in 1984 to begin again.

I remember being 14 and a HUGE Stevie fan and opening up Rolling Stone magazine in a convenience store and reading a small article that Stevie was putting the finishing touches on her next solo album. This was mid 1984 and was so excited. It was a year and a half later that the album was released.

But back to the stage audio. In Nov 1983 she probably had rough tracks and was playing around more than serious album tracks. Names can change all the time. I think I remember that Tusk was not named until the album was finished and Stevie threatened to quit the band because of the name.

The audio is from the Tulsa, Oklahoma, 12 November 1983 show off of Ivory Keys... The track is called Band Introductions and Happy Birthday Wizard if you want to listen to it (fascinating stuff lol). But she says how much she writes, and that she's bummed out because she's already starting her new album, which is going to be called Rock a Little. So my guess is that she wanted to call it Rock a Little to begin with, moved on to Mirror Mirror, found it wasn't going well with Jimmy and scrapped the project, and then returned to Rock a Little. Because I would agree they're separate projects, but to announce in late '83 the name of "the next album" seems premature for either of them... However that doesn't explain why she would say that Rock a Little was "originally titled" Mirror Mirror, considering she had had the Rock a Little the concept in her head since 1981.

PenguinHead
03-27-2015, 10:47 PM
"Mirror Mirror" was to be the follow up to "Wild Heart" ..."Mirror Mirror" was all but finished and then Stevie changed her mind and scraped the whole project and started over with what is now "Rock A Little"...

Changed her mind? She was somewhat out of her mind. What else was scrapped, aside from Mirror Mirror? It must have been a very bad scene for Jimmy to walk out, having been so loyal to Stevie.

I don't think there were two separate projects. I assume that the Rock a Little album contains most of the material that was recorded for the originally named Mirror Mirror album. Perhaps some of the songs were reworked or remixed after Jimmy left. Maybe a few songs were cut, and others added.

Side note: Why does any song, initially slated as the title track, have to be banished from the album? Could it just be another album track?

DauphineMarie
03-27-2015, 11:19 PM
Changed her mind? She was somewhat out of her mind. What else was scraped, aside from Mirror Mirror? It must have been a very bad scene for Jimmy to walk out, having been so loyal to Stevie.

I don't think there were two separate projects. I assume that the Rock a Little album contains most of the material that was recorded for the originally named Mirror Mirror album. Perhaps some of the songs were reworked or remixed after Jimmy left. Maybe a few songs were cut, and others added.

Side note: Why does any song, initially slated as the title track, have to be banished from the album? Why can't it be just be another album track?

To your side note: I think that question supports the fact that though RAL and Mirror Mirror are similar in the way that certain tracks were believed to be included on both albums, the exclusion of the concept of the Mirror Mirror thing says that it was separate, and she wanted to use it later, as when she did for the Other Side of the Mirror.

PenguinHead
03-27-2015, 11:37 PM
To your side note: I think that question supports the fact that though RAL and Mirror Mirror are similar in the way that certain tracks were believed to be included on both albums, the exclusion of the concept of the Mirror Mirror thing says that it was separate, and she wanted to use it later, as when she did for the Other Side of the Mirror.

That makes perfect sense!;) When the Mirror Mirror concept wasn't fully realized on what became Rock a Little, she transferred it her proceeding album as The Other Side of the Mirror. In context, it's clear why she chose that title. But it's strange the song Mirror Mirror didn't make it on the album.
album.

Macfan4life
03-29-2015, 05:24 PM
Changed her mind? She was somewhat out of her mind. What else was scrapped, aside from Mirror Mirror? It must have been a very bad scene for Jimmy to walk out, having been so loyal to Stevie.

I don't think there were two separate projects. I assume that the Rock a Little album contains most of the material that was recorded for the originally named Mirror Mirror album. Perhaps some of the songs were reworked or remixed after Jimmy left. Maybe a few songs were cut, and others added.

Side note: Why does any song, initially slated as the title track, have to be banished from the album? Could it just be another album track?
I think you are part correct. Its probably wrong to use the word scrapped but many songs were not quite finished and without Jimmy they were not going to get finished. This is why there are so many RAL demos and some of them are so good like Running Through The Garden, Mirror Mirror, etc.

When Jimmy walked out and quit because of the non-stop party atmosphere, there was not a complete album and no single. This is when all these songs not written by Stevie were brought to her to sing i.e. some become strangers, Talk To Me, etc. There was a rush to get the album out since for almost 2 years nothing but rough cuts.

Macfan4life
03-29-2015, 05:25 PM
Changed her mind? She was somewhat out of her mind. What else was scrapped, aside from Mirror Mirror? It must have been a very bad scene for Jimmy to walk out, having been so loyal to Stevie.

I don't think there were two separate projects. I assume that the Rock a Little album contains most of the material that was recorded for the originally named Mirror Mirror album. Perhaps some of the songs were reworked or remixed after Jimmy left. Maybe a few songs were cut, and others added.

Side note: Why does any song, initially slated as the title track, have to be banished from the album? Could it just be another album track?
I think you are part correct. Its probably wrong to use the word scrapped but many songs were not quite finished and without Jimmy they were not going to get finished. This is why there are so many RAL demos and and some of them are so good like Running Through The Garden, Mirror Mirror, etc. Some of them are more than demos and completed tracks.

When Jimmy walked out and quit because of the non-stop party atmosphere, there was not a complete album and no single. This is when all these songs not written by Stevie were brought to her to sing i.e. some become strangers, Talk To Me, etc. There was a rush to get the album out since for almost 2 years nothing but rough cuts.

BlueLight
03-29-2015, 05:40 PM
I think you are part correct. Its probably wrong to use the word scrapped but many songs were not quite finished and without Jimmy they were not going to get finished. This is why there are so many RAL demos and and some of them are so good like Running Through The Garden, Mirror Mirror, etc. Some of them are more than demos and completed tracks.

When Jimmy walked out and quit because of the non-stop party atmosphere, there was not a complete album and no single. This is when all these songs not written by Stevie were brought to her to sing i.e. some become strangers, Talk To Me, etc. There was a rush to get the album out since for almost 2 years nothing but rough cuts.

This has always been my understanding. Not two separate albums, but definitely a different direction.

PenguinHead
03-29-2015, 10:18 PM
"Mirror Mirror" was a separate project from "Rock A Little"...Stevie was unhappy with "Mirror Mirror" as whole and decided to start over with new songs this became "Rock A Little"...If Stevie had not scrapped "Mirror Mirror" it would have been her 3rd record and "Rock a little would have been the 4th


It's a misunderstanding.

She did not dump an entire album of songs, then began an entire new album from the ground up. The Mirror Mirror/Rock a Little production was problematic for various reasons Stevie has never properly addressed. This was a very shaky and vulnerable time in her life, as it was the height of her cocaine addiction. Her erratic behavior made it very hard for Jimmy to work with her. Along with Mirror Mirror, a few songs were swapped out, and others were reworked.

For entertainment purposes, is it possible to speculate what songs would be on a Mirror Mirror album?
1. Mirror Mirror
2. Running Through the Garden
?

David
03-30-2015, 12:31 AM
The song "Rock A Little" was written in 1981

Does somebody have the August 1983 Jim Ladd Innerview audio around? I think Stevie says, "I'm already working on my next album, Jim." And he says, "I know you are." She says the concept at that time was "Rock a Little" and she starts singing, "Sometimes it rages, rock a little/Even when it's calm, the house still shook a little/Just like the sea, I rock a little."

Macfan4life
03-30-2015, 05:17 AM
It's a misunderstanding.

She did not dump an entire album of songs, then began an entire new album from the ground up. The Mirror Mirror/Rock a Little production was problematic for various reasons Stevie has never properly addressed. This was a very shaky and vulnerable time in her life, as it was the height of her cocaine addiction. Her erratic behavior made it very hard for Jimmy to work with her. Along with Mirror Mirror, a few songs were swapped out, and others were reworked.

For entertainment purposes, is it possible to speculate what songs would be on a Mirror Mirror album?
1. Mirror Mirror
2. Running Through the Garden
?
Reconsider Me - Stevie says how much she hated this song. I think Jimmy made her do it and she was backed up vocally by Don Henley. I think once Jimmy walked out, she tossed this song immediately.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNoaIr2OJNk

BlueLight
03-30-2015, 08:54 AM
Reconsider Me - Stevie says how much she hated this song. I think Jimmy made her do it and she was backed up vocally by Don Henley. I think once Jimmy walked out, she tossed this song immediately.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNoaIr2OJNk

Interesting - and so odd that she ultimately chose to include it in the boxed set.

BlueLight
03-30-2015, 08:55 AM
It's a misunderstanding.

She did not dump an entire album of songs, then began an entire new album from the ground up. The Mirror Mirror/Rock a Little production was problematic for various reasons Stevie has never properly addressed. This was a very shaky and vulnerable time in her life, as it was the height of her cocaine addiction. Her erratic behavior made it very hard for Jimmy to work with her. Along with Mirror Mirror, a few songs were swapped out, and others were reworked.

For entertainment purposes, is it possible to speculate what songs would be on a Mirror Mirror album?
1. Mirror Mirror
2. Running Through the Garden
?

This is one of my favorite pasttimes.

3. RAL
4. Thousand Days
5. Battle of the Dragon
6. She Loves Him Still
......

SisterNightroad
03-30-2015, 09:26 AM
I've always thought that if Rock a little was a different album (with Jimmy Iovine for example), Violet and blue would have been the best choice for the first single.

Other possible tracks, in addition to the ones you have already listed, could have been One More Big Time Rock And Roll Star and Thousand Days.
There is also the possibilty that Greta, Love Is Like A River and Listen To The Rain would have been released on this album instead of Street Angel.

DauphineMarie
03-30-2015, 06:58 PM
I've always thought that if Rock a little was a different album (with Jimmy Iovine for example), Violet and blue would have been the best choice for the first single.

Other possible tracks, in addition to the ones you have already listed, could have been One More Big Time Rock And Roll Star and Thousand Days.
There is also the possibilty that Greta, Love Is Like A River and Listen To The Rain would have been released on this album instead of Street Angel.

One More Big Time Rock And Roll Star was a given, because according to Stevie's afformentioned 1983 Jim Ladd interview, that was one of the first songs they had started for the album.

welcomechris
03-30-2015, 07:42 PM
Reconsider Me - Stevie says how much she hated this song. I think Jimmy made her do it and she was backed up vocally by Don Henley. I think once Jimmy walked out, she tossed this song immediately.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNoaIr2OJNk

She said she wasn't in a "reconsider me" mood at the time because Jimmy and her were fighting. She later thanked warren and the song was released as a single

StevieNicksfann
03-30-2015, 09:02 PM
This is one of my favorite pasttimes.

3. RAL
4. Thousand Days
5. Battle of the Dragon
6. She Loves Him Still
......

A full tracklisting for the Mirror Mirror album exists somewhere. There had been a press release made or someone leaked an officical tracklisting at the time that ultimately got revamped. I remember The Dealer was originally on the album.

bombaysaffires
03-30-2015, 09:16 PM
Reconsider Me - Stevie says how much she hated this song. I think Jimmy made her do it and she was backed up vocally by Don Henley. I think once Jimmy walked out, she tossed this song immediately.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNoaIr2OJNk

well…just to focus on that point for a moment, did he really walk out? It's often been said (including by her) that she fired him. And if I recall it was something about her being upset that he was giving more attention/spending more time/more focus on Tom and other projects than on hers…. but maybe someone here will remember better. Later she said (on her BTM among other places) that it was her drug use and the craziness of the entourage and all the people she'd have hanging around in the studio etc. that drove him away. Jimmy did a great job on BD of keeping the entourage out and keeping her focused on work. (He had the power then because she hadn't had all the solo success yet and was very nervous about how it all would go and was willing to listen to him).

PenguinHead
03-30-2015, 09:23 PM
Reconsider Me - Stevie says how much she hated this song. I think Jimmy made her do it and she was backed up vocally by Don Henley. I think once Jimmy walked out, she tossed this song immediately.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNoaIr2OJNk

She didn't say she hated the song; she said she wasn't in a "reconsider" state of mind at that time. She sure stays true to her emotions --if she is not feeling it, she won't sing it.
It's a great song, so she obviously felt the need to reconsidered the song decades later.

"How will you feel twenty years from now?"

PenguinHead
03-30-2015, 09:38 PM
I've always thought that if Rock a little was a different album (with Jimmy Iovine for example), Violet and blue would have been the best choice for the first single.

Other possible tracks, in addition to the ones you have already listed, could have been One More Big Time Rock And Roll Star and Thousand Days.
There is also the possibilty that Greta, Love Is Like A River and Listen To The Rain would have been released on this album instead of Street Angel.

Violet and Blue is such an overlooked song in her catalog. It got a lot of air play on local radio stations in New England.

How can I forget this song: One More Big Time Rock and Roll Star ...just what I need :rolleyes: I love the sarcasm of it. It's almost the opposite end of the Byrds song "So You Wanna be a Rock and Roll Star.

There was a very prolific era - as Stevie balanced solo her career with Fleetwood Mac. Almost every year, if it wasn't an album by the band, it was a Stevie album, or a Lindsey album, or a Christine album, or a Mick Fleetwood album. It was great time to be a fan!

Aside from Stevie's albums, there are quite amount of exclusive solo songs that found homes on soundtrack albums and b-sides etc... I love the Enchanted box set because it gathered a lot of those stray tracks. Since then, she has amassed quite a few more, such as At Last and Not Fade Away. It would be nice if all of those songs could be collected and featured on their own, for a double disc compilation. By collecting them on their own exclusive platform, they would gain more recognition (and appreciation) as a significant part of her legacy.

michelej1
03-30-2015, 11:41 PM
Later she said (on her BTM among other places) that it was her drug use and the craziness of the entourage and all the people she'd have hanging around in the studio etc. that drove him away. Jimmy did a great job on BD of keeping the entourage out and keeping her focused on work. (He had the power then because she hadn't had all the solo success yet and was very nervous about how it all would go and was willing to listen to him).

In one interview she said:

"In order to do an album with him, I had to change. I couldn't be Stevie Nicks from Fleetwood Mac. I had to be much stronger and much more in control of myself because he would not waste his time working with a flaky out of control girl singer from Fleetwood Mac. He had no reason to be in the studio with that person and it was made very clear to me from the very beginning that if I was going to do this, I was no longer the coddled, dependent baby of Fleetwood Mac. I had to go up and be very strong or we couldn't do this album."

PenguinHead
03-31-2015, 12:02 AM
well…just to focus on that point for a moment, did he really walk out? It's often been said (including by her) that she fired him. And if I recall it was something about her being upset that he was giving more attention/spending more time/more focus on Tom and other projects than on hers…. but maybe someone here will remember better. Later she said (on her BTM among other places) that it was her drug use and the craziness of the entourage and all the people she'd have hanging around in the studio etc. that drove him away. Jimmy did a great job on BD of keeping the entourage out and keeping her focused on work. (He had the power then because she hadn't had all the solo success yet and was very nervous about how it all would go and was willing to listen to him).

That sounds pretty accurate. I never knew those details of what went down between them.

PenguinHead
03-31-2015, 12:14 AM
In one interview she said:

Wow. That's a rare moment when she self-assessed herself with a level of clarity and objectivity.

Macfan4life
03-31-2015, 07:22 AM
She didn't say she hated the song; she said she wasn't in a "reconsider" state of mind at that time. She sure stays true to her emotions --if she is not feeling it, she won't sing it.
It's a great song, so she obviously felt the need to reconsidered the song decades later.

"How will you feel twenty years from now?"
OMG LOL ok you can splice it and dice it anyway you want. If she was not in the mood for the song, she did not like the song. She did not included it on RAL.

When I listen to the song, several things strike me. First you can tell it is a Jimmy song because Stevie is very disciplined with singing. Her voice is stronger than most other RAL songs and he holds her on time and on cue with lyrics and chorus. The other thing is the way she sings the song, I can pick up the vibe she does not like the song and almost feels forced to sing it. She lacks that passion Stevie can usually put into a song for the 80's Stevie.

Macfan4life
03-31-2015, 07:28 AM
She said she wasn't in a "reconsider me" mood at the time because Jimmy and her were fighting. She later thanked warren and the song was released as a single
Of course 20 years later she is not going to say she hated the song to include it in a boxed set. Looking back she probably sees its not that bad. She is bring politically correct today. If you don't feel a song, you don't like it. She did not include it in RAL. That would be rude to say about someone's song especially since you recorded it and 20 years later put it in a boxed set.

I think we can mutually agree she did not like the song in 1984/1985. It would be rude to say she hated it or thought it was terrible. "Not feeling it" is saying enough. You will never hear her say she hates any song she sings.

vivfox
03-31-2015, 09:02 AM
(Reconsider Me)Of course 20 years later she is not going to say she hated the song to include it in a boxed set.
You will never hear her say she hates any song she sings.

She told Haim never to record a song they don't like. She mentioned this song as the example. I wonder if the Haim girls know Stevie put it in her prized boxset?:laugh:

BlueLight
03-31-2015, 09:04 AM
A full tracklisting for the Mirror Mirror album exists somewhere. There had been a press release made or someone leaked an officical tracklisting at the time that ultimately got revamped. I remember The Dealer was originally on the album.

Interesting- do you recall when/where the tracklisting was released? I've seen some leaks referenced in some old fanzines or Rolling Stone columns (I think there are some Mike Bise threads on the Ledge about these), but haven't seen any official tracklisting.

BlueDenimLamp
03-31-2015, 10:23 AM
It's always been my impression that "Mirror Mirror" was to be her third album and that the project was far enough along that it was starting to be promoted and may have had a release date...A few years ago I ran across old MTV "Music News" footage on youtube and one of the things was an announcement that Stevie's new record would not be coming out because it was being shelved and she was starting over with new songs (not an exact quote but it was something along those lines) unfortunately I have never been able to locate for footage again...

I did some digging in the old threads here and it seems our memories were a bit better 10 years ago...The post following seems to confirm that "Mirror Mirror" was abandoned at the last minute...

From the "Rock A Little" a missed opportunity (http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=17915) thread (post #21)

"The album that eventually became "Rock a Little' was slated to be realeased in July of 1984 .She was so close to releasing it then that ads were taken out in Billboard and Rollingstone in June heralding the lp's release the following month.At the final hour the album was scrapped because Stevie felt the album did not sound right.I know that Joe Walsh had played on some of the tracks one of which surfaced as 'One More Big Time Rock and Roll Star' other tracks rumored to be on it were "Chanel Chanel' and "Battle of the Dragon'.After this stories appeared that Jiimy Iovine had been fired or quit.Later Iovine admitted he had bowed out due to Stevie's esculating cociane use,but it seemed he was called back in to doctor up some tracks toward the end of recording in 1985 .At this point in Stevie's life it would seem even Mother Theresa's patience would have been tried as her record producer.The cocaine and cognac had ceased to give and were now detracting from her art ,and of course as we all know the Klonopin that followed would be no panacea to her waning creativity.I do think TOSOTM was a better album however, her spacy vocals on it actually enhanced the 80s Euro- pop production .I think Rupert Hine had an understanding of what do do with Stevie's material .It's too bad, but not unpredictable ,that they had a falling out so vitriolic that they would never work together again"

.http://i1361.photobucket.com/albums/r663/Nicksiannation/rs_zpsmfpfyfd2.png

I believe these are the Rolling Stones mentioned...Who wants to buy them and look for the "Mirror Mirror" promotions??? http://backissues.com/issue/Rolling-Stone-June-7-1984----Issue-423

bombaysaffires
03-31-2015, 10:55 AM
She told Haim never to record a song they don't like. She mentioned this song as the example. I wonder if the Haim girls know Stevie put it in her prized boxset?:laugh:

I thought the box set was part of an obligation to the record company…. she owed them an album. Using a track that was fully finished and release-ready gives you another track to meet the quota. And it was never released before so it adds to the appeal for fans. Very pragmatic choice.

bombaysaffires
03-31-2015, 11:00 AM
In one interview she said:

ha, yes I recall her saying in a tv interview somewhere that he told her that this [BD] wasn't FM and that she had been spoiled in FM, that she had been protected "like the little baby egg" in FM and that wouldn't be the case on BD. She was so clearly coked out in that interview as well. Maybe Entertainment Tonight ? I can't recall, but probably have the video somewhere in a stack of VHS tapes. One day it would be fun to go back and watch those old interviews and compare the stories of events then to how she tells them now.

sorcerer999
03-31-2015, 11:44 AM
I've always thought that if Rock a little was a different album (with Jimmy Iovine for example), Violet and blue would have been the best choice for the first single.

"Violet & Blue" was recorded for The Wild Heart album, actually. I agree it would have made a great single and am always puzzled that it didn't make it on that album, while the lackluster "I Will Run To You" did make it.

I'm glad it at least made it onto the "Against All Odds" soundtracks in March of '84.

The Highwayman
03-31-2015, 12:23 PM
I like 'I Will Run to You' more than 'Violet and Blue', and I really do like the latter quite a bit. I do like 'Violet and Blue' more than 'Nothing Ever Changes' so maybe..

SisterNightroad
03-31-2015, 02:35 PM
"Violet & Blue" was recorded for The Wild Heart album, actually. I agree it would have made a great single and am always puzzled that it didn't make it on that album, while the lackluster "I Will Run To You" did make it.

I'm glad it at least made it onto the "Against All Odds" soundtracks in March of '84.
It's true.
I've always assumed that Stevie would have intended to re-record it for Rock A Little because the album was supposed to be released not long after Against all odds and, even after she changed her plans, during the 1986 tour she frequently quoted Violet and Blue when performing I need to know.

DauphineMarie
03-31-2015, 03:39 PM
On a somewhat related note, I wonder if the whole issue with Don't Come Around Here No More and Jimmy recording Dave Stewart's song written for Stevie with Tom made her angry enough...

And BlueDenimLamp I would love to see those articles! I will try to dig around in the Billboard magazine archives too to see if there's anything mentioned.

Fannymac
03-31-2015, 04:23 PM
I agree with everyone who's saying that these are one in the same, just an album that evolved over the years. You had Jimmy walk out around, what, 1983, early 1984? From there, she actually started work with Keith Olson, who also pulled out by Summer of '84....he had just finished the Joe Walsh album and went straight into Stevie's.....I remember the MTV News brief that quoted him as saying that if he stayed with the Stevie project, after all the craziness of Joe, it would have killed him (Supposedly Stevie wasn't too thrilled by this comment on national TV, and it put a real strain on their relationship for years).

Fannymac
03-31-2015, 04:29 PM
She told Haim never to record a song they don't like. She mentioned this song as the example. I wonder if the Haim girls know Stevie put it in her prized boxset?:laugh:

A number of artists have recorded "Reconsider Me" besides Stevie, but I gotta say....this is one of those rare cases where no one else's version comes even CLOSE to the original.....Warren's is GORGEOUS!

BlueLight
03-31-2015, 04:38 PM
Interesting- do you recall when/where the tracklisting was released? I've seen some leaks referenced in some old fanzines or Rolling Stone columns (I think there are some Mike Bise threads on the Ledge about these), but haven't seen any official tracklisting.

For ease of reference, here is one of the threads I was referencing, discussing potential tracks for inclusion on RAL:

http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=44774

UndoingTheLaces
04-01-2015, 08:57 PM
I was listening to a bootleg of the Wild Heart Tour show from Tulsa, Oklahoma on 11 November 1983, and Stevie announces that the new album is going to be called Rock a Little.

Does anyone have this or know where it could be downloaded? I'd love to hear that version of Sara.

DauphineMarie
04-01-2015, 09:21 PM
Does anyone have this or know where it could be downloaded? I'd love to hear that version of Sara.

http://stevienicksivorykeys.blogspot.com/2015/03/live-11121983-assembly-center-tulsa-ok.html

The whole show is WILD and fabulous.. It is truly a gem. She sings Happy Birthday to Wizard in true Stevie fashion, which in my opinion is my favourite part of the show. ;)
EDIT:: In the beginning, she talks about Scarlett from Gone With the Wind and making a dress out of drapes, and then she talks about Carol Ann who is at the show, who "lives here." :eek:

UndoingTheLaces
04-02-2015, 12:30 AM
Wow! Thank you very much. I can't wait to hear this. :blob1: