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Montclare
02-24-2015, 09:24 PM
Album #4, also my fourth favorite Lindsey album. I went with Right Place to Fade (probably one of my top three LB solo songs), Gift of Screws, and Wait for You. I also like Bel Air Rain. What are your top three?

elle
02-24-2015, 09:38 PM
Album #4, also my fourth favorite Lindsey album. I went with Right Place to Fade (probably one of my top three LB solo songs), Gift of Screws, and Wait for You. I also like Bel Air Rain. What are your top three?

my favorite 4 songs on GOS are 3 of the original GOS songs (Wait For You, GOS, and Twist of Fate), and Underground.

i can't stand Did You Miss Me, and TPT chorus makes me want to jam something through my ears... although guitarwork on that song is sublime.

Montclare
02-24-2015, 10:28 PM
Elle, you're probably the perfect person to ask this- the songs that were originally intended for the first incarnation of GOS that either wound up on the studio release, or UTS or SWS, do you know if they were re-recorded or if he went with the original recordings? I ask because I know some were worked on as early as 1995, but then weren't actually released for years. I can't quite tell when listening. I would figure things such as She Smiled Sweetly would be recorded more recently since he didn't sound the same in 2011 as he did in 1995, but can't tell on all of them.

michelej1
02-24-2015, 10:43 PM
I put Did You Miss Me among my three. My musical tastes are shallow, what can I say.

Michele

Hawkeye
02-25-2015, 03:11 AM
Bel Air Rain gift of Screws and Right Place to Fade. All right in a row, what a 10 minute span of audio bliss. Lindsey followed up his worst album, UTS with his best!

nicole21290
02-25-2015, 07:08 AM
Next to impossible for me, this one. Ended up going off instinct and plumped for 'Love Runs Deeper', 'Right Place to Fade' and 'Treason'.

'Underground', 'Wait for You' and 'Bel Air Rain' are also A+ for me, and I ADORE the verses, especially lyrically, in both 'Did You Miss Me' and 'Great Day'.

wondergirl9847
02-25-2015, 03:50 PM
Love Runs Deeper - What a stomper! I love this song...it's one of those turn-it-up-in-your-car type of songs.

Right Place to Fade - "I'm a little lost, let me find my way, I'm a little dead, let me live...been livin' in the past, let me rise today....led a selfish life, help me give...." The lyrics hit me in the gut, even if they sound like "twist of fate". :laugh:

Treason - Lindsey has really brought a spiritual-ness to his music and lyrics lately. VERY interesting to me. This song really does sound like an old church hymn or something. It's very uplifting and powerful.

Just went back to read the entries and Nicole...you and I have the same songs picked out. Nice!! :D We have great taste, obviously. ;)

bombaysaffires
02-25-2015, 08:51 PM
I voted for GOS, Bel Air Rain and Great Day which I like but actually intended my 3rd to be Wait For You.

This album is second only to Out of the Cradle as his best solo work

elle
02-25-2015, 10:11 PM
Elle, you're probably the perfect person to ask this- the songs that were originally intended for the first incarnation of GOS that either wound up on the studio release, or UTS or SWS, do you know if they were re-recorded or if he went with the original recordings? I ask because I know some were worked on as early as 1995, but then weren't actually released for years. I can't quite tell when listening. I would figure things such as She Smiled Sweetly would be recorded more recently since he didn't sound the same in 2011 as he did in 1995, but can't tell on all of them.

good question! i know there are several fans who just occasionally visit here who know this much better than me... but yeah She Smiled Sweetly was completely re-recorded. i think all other ones he put out (other than I Am Waiting) he reworked some parts but the main recording / instruments / vocals stayed from the original.

it would be nice if someone who actually knows exactly would post here and let us know.

Montclare
02-25-2015, 10:53 PM
good question! i know there are several fans who just occasionally visit here who know this much better than me... but yeah She Smiled Sweetly was completely re-recorded. i think all other ones he put out (other than I Am Waiting) he reworked some parts but the main recording / instruments / vocals stayed from the original.

it would be nice if someone who actually knows exactly would post here and let us know.

Thank you! I remember reading somewhere that Mick and John's parts on GOS were recorded during the Say You Will sessions. Reading up on the history of these albums, I feel like I'm trying to put a puzzle together, trying to figure what goes where.

elle
02-25-2015, 11:04 PM
Thank you! I remember reading somewhere that Mick and John's parts on GOS were recorded during the Say You Will sessions. Reading up on the history of these albums, I feel like I'm trying to put a puzzle together, trying to figure what goes where.

no they were recorded some time in the mid 90s i believe. they didn't do much to GOS songs during SYW sessions, i don't think.

Peacekeeper is completely reworked, and i like faster original recording much better, but that one was not a part of that 2001 CD-R LB supposedly gave to WBs.

nicole21290
02-26-2015, 12:09 AM
Interestingly (to me), Stevie was also apparently around during those sessions per Neale Heywood's 2000 Q&A:

Hi Neale,
My e-mail address reflects my light side, and I love it, too, thanks! In regards to the subject of LB's record becoming a Fleetwood Mac record...is SN on the record at all? I read that all the other Mac's worked on the record (GOS's) at some point, but never heard anything about SN. And, by the way, have you heard any of SN's new record? Thanks for the time you're taking, this is cool! (Desiree, Virginia, USA)

Hi Desiree, how are you?
You know I thought that Stevie had done some harmony stuff on the record, I saw her a few times during the recordings so I think she is on there but I could be wrong. I've not heard any of her new record, I live in Colorado now so i'm not in the neighborhood anymore. All the best Ms. Dreamer.

louielouie2000
02-26-2015, 01:39 PM
It was tough to chose just 3 favorites from GOS, this was just such a strong album as a whole work.

Great Day: Lindsey almost never writes songs in a narrative, linear, story telling fashion. I love that about this one. Such a neat pace setting song for an album opener.

Bel Air Rain: What is there to say about this song? Possibly the finest song of Lindsey's entire career. It showcases his experimental sounds, dynamic finger picking, and superb songwriting together in one stunning package.

Love Runs Deeper: I love the charging pace of this one. It's such a foot tapper. I've assumed this one is about Fleetwood Mac, or possibly his relationship with Stevie. Either way, that's another reason I'm partial to it.

sanders8323
02-26-2015, 09:24 PM
About re-working some of the songs, this is pretty much everything, but even still, I'm probably missing some things.

Murrow Turning Over in His Grave: no changes
Miranda: backing vocals from Stevie, heavier drums, vocals more layered/up front in the mix
Red Rover: no changes
Peacekeeper: completely remixed/Stevie backing vocals
Come: no changes, except for cutting out that little drum fill Mick does at the VERY end of the GOS version
Steal Your Heart Away: Stevie backing vocals, some vocals more in the background in the ending part of the song..."alone we suffer" being an example, bongos in the intro seem more prominent in the original version
Bleed to Love Her: slightly earlier fade out for SYW, Stevie backing vocals
Say Goodbye: seems more heavily produced, vocals more layered, Stevie backing vocals
To Try for the Sun: the ending coda--->"mirror mirror in the sky, would you look what's happening here below, no one knows where to go, would you give us a sign where to go," has been cut out, vocals are more pronounced and upfront in the mix, guitar seems cleaned up a bit, maybe redone
Down on Rodeo: no changes
Someone's Gotta Change Your Mind: no changes
Wait for You: no changes
Twist of Fate: title changed to "The Right Place to Fade" even though he's clearly singing the former title, why not re-record that line??? more percussion in the verses in the original version, last chorus extended---one more line of "waiting for the light that might light our way", also the whoo hoo hoo's, there's one more round of those in the original, the "ba ba ba ba baa's are extended a bit and there is more pronounced guitar over that part in the original
Gift of Screws: the line, "that's right, yeah"...the "yeah" is more monotone rather than more exciting in the original version. the ending drum solo is slightly extended on the official release
She Smiled Sweetly: completely reworked

Songs not yet officially released: Blue Turns to Grey, Deep Dense, My Little Demon (studio version), Given Thing, Steve's Riff (Wear You Down), The Singer Not the Song, Gotta Get Away

Love Minus Zero/No Limit: anyone know if this was recorded during the SYW sessions, or was this from the original GOS sessions?
I Am Waiting: believe this was recorded during the SYW sessions and saved for UTS

elle
02-27-2015, 06:27 PM
About re-working some of the songs, this is pretty much everything, but even still, I'm probably missing some things.

Murrow Turning Over in His Grave: no changes
Miranda: backing vocals from Stevie, heavier drums, vocals more layered/up front in the mix
Red Rover: no changes
Peacekeeper: completely remixed/Stevie backing vocals
Come: no changes, except for cutting out that little drum fill Mick does at the VERY end of the GOS version
Steal Your Heart Away: Stevie backing vocals, some vocals more in the background in the ending part of the song..."alone we suffer" being an example, bongos in the intro seem more prominent in the original version
Bleed to Love Her: slightly earlier fade out for SYW, Stevie backing vocals
Say Goodbye: seems more heavily produced, vocals more layered, Stevie backing vocals
To Try for the Sun: the ending coda--->"mirror mirror in the sky, would you look what's happening here below, no one knows where to go, would you give us a sign where to go," has been cut out, vocals are more pronounced and upfront in the mix, guitar seems cleaned up a bit, maybe redone
Down on Rodeo: no changes
Someone's Gotta Change Your Mind: no changes
Wait for You: no changes
Twist of Fate: title changed to "The Right Place to Fade" even though he's clearly singing the former title, why not re-record that line??? more percussion in the verses in the original version, last chorus extended---one more line of "waiting for the light that might light our way", also the whoo hoo hoo's, there's one more round of those in the original, the "ba ba ba ba baa's are extended a bit and there is more pronounced guitar over that part in the original
Gift of Screws: the line, "that's right, yeah"...the "yeah" is more monotone rather than more exciting in the original version. the ending drum solo is slightly extended on the official release
She Smiled Sweetly: completely reworked

Songs not yet officially released: Blue Turns to Grey, Deep Dense, My Little Demon (studio version), Given Thing, Steve's Riff (Wear You Down), The Singer Not the Song, Gotta Get Away

Love Minus Zero/No Limit: anyone know if this was recorded during the SYW sessions, or was this from the original GOS sessions?
I Am Waiting: believe this was recorded during the SYW sessions and saved for UTS

this is great read - thank you! :wavey:

sanders8323
02-27-2015, 08:24 PM
this is great read - thank you! :wavey:

Sure thing elle. Yeah I guess it's enjoyable if you're more of a "Mac nerd" per se, or if you're more into technicalities. This is just from what I recall in hearing these original mixes, which it has been a couple years since I have heard them.

Montclare
02-27-2015, 10:43 PM
About re-working some of the songs, this is pretty much everything, but even still, I'm probably missing some things.

Murrow Turning Over in His Grave: no changes
Miranda: backing vocals from Stevie, heavier drums, vocals more layered/up front in the mix
Red Rover: no changes
Peacekeeper: completely remixed/Stevie backing vocals
Come: no changes, except for cutting out that little drum fill Mick does at the VERY end of the GOS version
Steal Your Heart Away: Stevie backing vocals, some vocals more in the background in the ending part of the song..."alone we suffer" being an example, bongos in the intro seem more prominent in the original version
Bleed to Love Her: slightly earlier fade out for SYW, Stevie backing vocals
Say Goodbye: seems more heavily produced, vocals more layered, Stevie backing vocals
To Try for the Sun: the ending coda--->"mirror mirror in the sky, would you look what's happening here below, no one knows where to go, would you give us a sign where to go," has been cut out, vocals are more pronounced and upfront in the mix, guitar seems cleaned up a bit, maybe redone
Down on Rodeo: no changes
Someone's Gotta Change Your Mind: no changes
Wait for You: no changes
Twist of Fate: title changed to "The Right Place to Fade" even though he's clearly singing the former title, why not re-record that line??? more percussion in the verses in the original version, last chorus extended---one more line of "waiting for the light that might light our way", also the whoo hoo hoo's, there's one more round of those in the original, the "ba ba ba ba baa's are extended a bit and there is more pronounced guitar over that part in the original
Gift of Screws: the line, "that's right, yeah"...the "yeah" is more monotone rather than more exciting in the original version. the ending drum solo is slightly extended on the official release
She Smiled Sweetly: completely reworked

Songs not yet officially released: Blue Turns to Grey, Deep Dense, My Little Demon (studio version), Given Thing, Steve's Riff (Wear You Down), The Singer Not the Song, Gotta Get Away

Love Minus Zero/No Limit: anyone know if this was recorded during the SYW sessions, or was this from the original GOS sessions?
I Am Waiting: believe this was recorded during the SYW sessions and saved for UTS

Thank you for this!

GypsySorcerer
02-28-2015, 09:24 PM
Gift of Screws, Love Runs Deeper, and Bel Air Rain. Really solid album. :nod: