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sorcerer999
01-13-2015, 06:38 PM
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michelej1
01-13-2015, 06:40 PM
That is impressive.
Michele
W-O-W......gorgeous or what ???
Bur then we knew that....
Macfanforever
01-13-2015, 06:52 PM
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Wow .Its about _________ing time.
It will be in my mailbox soon.I end up getting RS and other mags when I was at FYE picking up 24K vinyl in December.They sign me up for ne of those 2 month trials which I'll drop before they charge me.
I'm so happy for her.
BTW .I wonder what the rest of Mac think about it.
Macfanforever
01-13-2015, 06:53 PM
I love that photo.
Also I'm a big fan of hats.
Macfanforever
01-13-2015, 06:57 PM
I wonder if this is a part of the surprise.
It surprised me.
michelej1
01-13-2015, 07:00 PM
I love that photo.
Also I'm a big fan of hats.
Yes, I think the hat is a good idea. Even though it's a western hat, it does remind me of the old days when she wore a flower hat. It makes a nice frame for her face and hair.
Michele
DauphineMarie
01-13-2015, 07:06 PM
damn...I approve!!!
EDIT - I wonder if that's the same hat from the 24KG polaroid..
tothegypsy
01-13-2015, 07:20 PM
Head over to RollingStone.com at 11amEST tomorrow for a HUGE Stevie Nicks surprise and a very, very special performance.
Just posted to her Facebook page
Macfanforever
01-13-2015, 07:21 PM
Yes, I think the hat is a good idea. Even though it's a western hat, it does remind me of the old days when she wore a flower hat. It makes a nice frame for her face and hair.
Michele
Yes I agree.Also I love those old fashion hat she wears.I love her wearing hats.
The hat in the photo looks like over sized cowboy hat alittlebit.
BlueDenimLamp
01-13-2015, 07:27 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Head over to <a href="http://t.co/WXCaxb69LP">http://t.co/WXCaxb69LP</a> at 11amEST tomorrow for a HUGE Stevie Nicks surprise and a very, very special performance</p>— Stevie Nicks (@StevieNicks) <a href="https://twitter.com/StevieNicks/status/555156434191536129">January 14, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
So much for waiting on Liz.
Wonder if this is related to the photo Liz posted
http://i1361.photobucket.com/albums/r663/Nicksiannation/10914098_1096129770413978_832768069_n_zpsa3245323.jpg
Lisa W
01-13-2015, 07:31 PM
Wow - this is gorgeous! So happy to see her get this opportunity again. Rock on Gold Dust Woman!!
Danielle
01-13-2015, 07:35 PM
That cover is gorgeous! I'm so happy that the "Stevie hype" didn't go away with the end of AHS Coven. It's a great time to be a fan and I couldn't be happier. :]
jkmaletic
01-13-2015, 08:09 PM
Well, it's about DAMN TIME!
I'm so happy for her and proud to be a fan. Look at her -- amazing.
Can't wait to buy the issue (or seven).
~Jamie
annabellee
01-13-2015, 08:15 PM
The RS Cover = WIN
The Hat = MEH
The Glove = FAIL
However, it is 2015, so Stevie on the Cover outweighs it all. You just have to, FAAAAAAALLLLLLLL.
mitzo
01-13-2015, 08:24 PM
Beautiful pic and nice to see her in RS but I am still hoping for more, like, some music.
bombaysaffires
01-13-2015, 08:31 PM
Love mama but can't help but wonder if part of her feels a need to reassert herself as the alpha female in FM. I mean why now? Why not have gone for this around the release of say ,,IYD. with the documentary and all?? I know it will inflame some but I see her ego all over this.
gssmith
01-13-2015, 08:31 PM
She looks beautiful! Could do with out the hat though, but oh well. The gloves look kind of cool I've always thought. Dolly wears them too. I think they are supposed to hide age spots/ wrinkles on the wrists.
Can't wait for tomorrow to see the new surprise.
wheart
01-13-2015, 08:42 PM
She looks amazing! I couldn't be happier with the pic! But I must say I think it is more than a little odd. Christine McVie returns to FM after 16 years, they're in the middle of an extremely popular world tour yet Stevie solo ends up on the cover of RS, not the Mac. I wonder what her band mates think of all this. Don't get me wrong...I think a Stevie cover has been way overdue but I find the timing very curious. :shrug:
StreetAngel86
01-13-2015, 08:48 PM
FRIGGING LOVE IT
she is WOWOWOWOWOWOWOW gorgeous .... duh
but the hat.
the hat makes it :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
Danielle
01-13-2015, 08:59 PM
"Stevie is very direct, very honest, very self-obsessed in a way. And I don't mean that in a bad way. She has her brand, you know? She's an icon. She's a genius. She's a lovely, kind, beautiful woman, and I love her to death." - Christine McVie, from the Rolling Stone article.
jkmaletic
01-13-2015, 09:02 PM
does anyone know when this will be available for purchase on newsstands? I assume it's the January 2015 Rolling Stone? Thanks.
bombaysaffires
01-13-2015, 09:06 PM
does anyone know when this will be available for purchase on newsstands? I assume it's the January 2015 Rolling Stone? Thanks.
I'd bet it's a Feb issue… January issue would be out by now. But I forget… does RS come out more than once a month??
SuiteShangriLa
01-13-2015, 09:07 PM
Another pic from the new Rolling Stone
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c170/SuiteShangriLa/open/7F48DB7C-BE12-446E-8BB2-2735749E3CE8.png.jpeg (http://s27.photobucket.com/user/SuiteShangriLa/media/open/7F48DB7C-BE12-446E-8BB2-2735749E3CE8.png.jpeg.html)
KarmaContestant
01-13-2015, 09:09 PM
Love mama but can't help but wonder if part of her feels a need to reassert herself as the alpha female in FM. I mean why now? Why not have gone for this around the release of say ,,IYD. with the documentary and all?? I know it will inflame some but I see her ego all over this.
Well, no one really decides they will be on the cover of Rolling Stone, except the editors of Rolling Stone. I'm sure she would have been delighted to be on the cover in 2011, but she wasn't asked. This year, she was, and who would turn that down?
goyourownway
01-13-2015, 09:12 PM
I took that pic and posted it on Instagram ... holy crap. I love social media!!
jkmaletic
01-13-2015, 09:15 PM
Well, no one really decides they will be on the cover of Rolling Stone, except the editors of Rolling Stone. I'm sure she would have been delighted to be on the cover in 2011, but she wasn't asked. This year, she was, and who would turn that down?
exactly. There's no ill will, ego, let me show the band who's boss, kind of thing going on here. As far as the timing, it is what it is. If anything, I would think it would help Fleetwood Mac with their sales, not that they need it.
annabellee
01-13-2015, 09:19 PM
http://s27.photobucket.com/user/SuiteShangriLa/media/open/7F48DB7C-BE12-446E-8BB2-2735749E3CE8.png.jpeg.html
The newer picture is soooo much better but I still hate the gloves!
bombaysaffires
01-13-2015, 09:22 PM
well, rarely do you just "end up" on the cover of Rolling Stone. Artists-- well, their managers, PR people, record labels, etc-- work hard to get them a cover. So I think it's a pretty safe bet that Rolling Stone didn't just approach her out of the blue… She's not exactly the hottest person in the biz right now with albums on the top of the charts and her face on every magazine out there (like she used to be, and like say Taylor Swift or Beyonce is now). Agreed it would take some time for them to get the interviews and write the piece, but not as long as you think. So it could well have been in some way prompted by the overwhelming amount of media attention dedicated to Christine since her return. Stevie wouldn't want to be overshadowed, nor would her management. See Chris' comment from the article that Stevie is a marketing genius, well aware of her brand and in her own way self-obsessed. She knows exactly what she's doing. Chris appears not to take any offense to it, nor do I. It just is what it is. Stevie is no naive babe in the woods… she's a very savvy veteran who has always been good at managing her career.
Danielle
01-13-2015, 09:29 PM
well, rarely do you just "end up" on the cover of Rolling Stone. Artists-- well, their managers, PR people, record labels, etc-- work hard to get them a cover. So I think it's a pretty safe bet that Rolling Stone didn't just approach her out of the blue… She's not exactly the hottest person in the biz right now with albums on the top of the charts and her face on every magazine out there (like she used to be, and like say Taylor Swift or Beyonce is now). Agreed it would take some time for them to get the interviews and write the piece, but not as long as you think. So it could well have been in some way prompted by the overwhelming amount of media attention dedicated to Christine since her return. Stevie wouldn't want to be overshadowed, nor would her management. See Chris' comment from the article that Stevie is a marketing genius, well aware of her brand and in her own way self-obsessed. She knows exactly what she's doing. Chris appears not to take any offense to it, nor do I. It just is what it is. Stevie is no naive babe in the woods… she's a very savvy veteran who has always been good at managing her career.
The article does mention a litttle bit of tension with FM (except for Chris) as Stevie was featured solo on the cover of the magazine in the middle of a FM tour.
I think it's good for her and good for the band.
MikeInNV
01-13-2015, 09:29 PM
I'd bet it's a Feb issue… January issue would be out by now. But I forget… does RS come out more than once a month??
Every two weeks.
Lisa W
01-13-2015, 09:34 PM
well, rarely do you just "end up" on the cover of Rolling Stone. Artists-- well, their managers, PR people, record labels, etc-- work hard to get them a cover. So I think it's a pretty safe bet that Rolling Stone didn't just approach her out of the blue… She's not exactly the hottest person in the biz right now with albums on the top of the charts and her face on every magazine out there (like she used to be, and like say Taylor Swift or Beyonce is now). Agreed it would take some time for them to get the interviews and write the piece, but not as long as you think. So it could well have been in some way prompted by the overwhelming amount of media attention dedicated to Christine since her return. Stevie wouldn't want to be overshadowed, nor would her management. See Chris' comment from the article that Stevie is a marketing genius, well aware of her brand and in her own way self-obsessed. She knows exactly what she's doing. Chris appears not to take any offense to it, nor do I. It just is what it is. Stevie is no naive babe in the woods… she's a very savvy veteran who has always been good at managing her career.
You are totally right that this takes a marketing push from managers, PR, etc. It is all the more impressive that it is happening when she is no longer under contract to Warners Bros. Kudos to whomever got this done.
bombaysaffires
01-13-2015, 09:40 PM
You are totally right that this takes a marketing push from managers, PR, etc. It is all the more impressive that it is happening when she is no longer under contract to Warners Bros. Kudos to whomever got this done.
yes… how often is a 66 almost 67 year old chick on the cover of Rolling Stone?? She's a smart cookie.
sorcerer999
01-13-2015, 09:41 PM
She looks amazing! I couldn't be happier with the pic! But I must say I think it is more than a little odd. Christine McVie returns to FM after 16 years, they're in the middle of an extremely popular world tour yet Stevie solo ends up on the cover of RS, not the Mac. I wonder what her band mates think of all this. Don't get me wrong...I think a Stevie cover has been way overdue but I find the timing very curious. :shrug:
Let's remember that 24KG is still very new...it's only a little over 3 months old, and Stevie has been using all of her downtime from Fleetwood Mac to promote it in some form or fashion. I bet she'll be doing more of it throughout the year whilst FMac take breaks.
STEVIE has a brand new product to promote. Fleetwood Mac does not.
If this tour wasn't another "oldies" set, and they were actually touring behind a new album, then I could see the likelihood of them all being featured on the cover of RS, but such is not the case.
teedeerocks
01-13-2015, 10:58 PM
well, rarely do you just "end up" on the cover of Rolling Stone. Artists-- well, their managers, PR people, record labels, etc-- work hard to get them a cover. So I think it's a pretty safe bet that Rolling Stone didn't just approach her out of the blue… She's not exactly the hottest person in the biz right now with albums on the top of the charts and her face on every magazine out there (like she used to be, and like say Taylor Swift or Beyonce is now). Agreed it would take some time for them to get the interviews and write the piece, but not as long as you think. So it could well have been in some way prompted by the overwhelming amount of media attention dedicated to Christine since her return. Stevie wouldn't want to be overshadowed, nor would her management. See Chris' comment from the article that Stevie is a marketing genius, well aware of her brand and in her own way self-obsessed. She knows exactly what she's doing. Chris appears not to take any offense to it, nor do I. It just is what it is. Stevie is no naive babe in the woods… she's a very savvy veteran who has always been good at managing her career.
Chris always said that she was glad Stevie is a "front and center" type of person b/c Chris DEFINITELY isn't and doesn't want to be.I bet Stevie's dad taught her alot of the "ins and outs" of business marketing and management,even if she is the product.
nicole21290
01-13-2015, 11:23 PM
With thanks to Alicia Bailey, whose scans allowed me to do this transcript just now...
http://buckingham-nicks.boards.net/thread/28/sn-rolling-stone-january-2015
Magic & Loss
Maker of myths, wearer of shawls: for Stevie Nicks, nothing - and everything - has changed.
By Brian Hiatt
Stevie Nicks got to sleep at home last night for once, her skinny, half-blind, half-hairless 16-year-old dog, Sulamith, snuggling at her feet, in a four-poster bed too tall for either of them. “I have to take, like, a running jump to get up there,” says Nicks, who, for all the potency of her presence, is five feet one without heels. She lives in an oceanside condo in Santa Monica, a “space pad” with floor-to-ceiling views of half of Los Angeles County. Her bedroom décor is spare: a Buddha statue on the polished hardwood floor, a vintage globe on a stand, a white stuffed rabbit perched on some pillows, a modest flatscreen, a rack of stage clothes in the corner that serves as the only reminder that she’s actually still on tour. Nicks made it back from a Fleetwood Mac show at the Forum around four in the morning, managing six and a half hours of sleep. She has another concert tonight, with no day off in between. Her back hurts. ‘We’re tired,” Nicks says, brightly, “because we’re very old.”
Today’s show is an Anaheim arena, an hour from home. Nicks, her long blond hair wrapped in yellow, blue and purple plastic curlers, has flopped onto a well-worn black leather massage chair, feet up, at the rear of her backstage dressing room. It’s early December, and the sun is setting in pastels among the palm trees outside. There are only a couple of hours left before Nicks has to be back onstage in her black corset and skirt, harmonizing once more on “The Chain” with a guy she dumped during the Ford administration.
The ex in question, Lindsey Buckingham, is a formidable frontman, a virtuosic guitar innovator, an obsessive studio genius à la Brian Wilson, a snappy dresser with first-class cheekbones. He would be the undisputed star of almost any other band. But Buckingham had the mixed fortune to join Fleetwood Mac with his beautiful girlfriend, an intuitive, mystical, prolific composer (she used to write a song a day) with a hoarse, trilling miracle of a voice and an unearthly, shamanic stage manner - a maker of myths, a wearer of shawls, a genre unto herself, a woman taken by the sky.
At the moment, Nicks is wearing black legging, fuzzy UGG-like black boots, and a selection form what may be the world’s leading leading collection of diaphanous black tops. She is gurgling scales along with a recording of her vocal coach while flipping through a new memoir by Janis Joplin’s road manager. “Look,” Nicks says, perking up. “I knew Janis wore sling-back heels.” Joplin was a formative influence, but Nicks has found a different, frillier balance between toughness and vulnerability. “I think Janis was not as comfortable with herself as a woman,” says Nicks’ close friend, singer-songwriter Vanessa Carlton (who had Nicks conduct her wedding). “But Stevie understands how much power there is in the feminine, and she’s not afraid of it.”
“Stevie is strong-willed,” says Heartbreakers guitarist Mike Campbell, a longtime friend and collaborator, “and at the same time, she’s vulnerable and fragile. And that’s a really great combination. She became this icon for girls - and probably most guys in the Seventies wished they had a girlfriend like Stevie Nicks.”
Nicks stands and plugs her iPod into her road-case-enclosed stereo, via a cord with a cute furry covering. “I have so many playlists,” she says. She selects one that kicks off with a deep cut from Aretha Franklin’s Who’s Zoomin’ Who. Nicks heads over to her makeup table, beside a klieg light, and points out a framed black-and-white picture by the mirror, in which a bright-eyed little girl stares down the camera with a defiant smirk. “This is me in third grade,” she says, “right before getting kicked out of Catholic School.” (In fact, she explains later, her parents let her quit, thought she clearly prefers the version where she’s expelled.)
The dressing room is more utilitarian than vibe-y, which seems rather un-Stevie: no candles, no drapes, no incense, just a dog bed for Sulamith, a Yorkie-Chinese Crested mix who truly fits into the “tired because she’s old” category. While Sulamith rests, Mana, a younger, more energetic little dog, does laps around the room, offering a rubber frog to visitors. Mana belongs to Karen Johnston, an unflappably loyal and good-humored brunette who’s been Nicks’ assistant for the past 26 years (Nicks treats that as an semi-official title, as in “This is Karen, my assistant of 26 years”). Johnston is also in all black and wears a helpful lint brush on her belt.
There are a couple of other pictures leaning against Nicks’ makeup mirror, each meant to inspire. One, taken in the late seventies, shows a pigtailed Nicks writing a never-to-be-released song with a tan, shirtless, hunky-looking George Harrison. The other is recent shot of a beaming Nicks posing with a veteran from the war in Iraq. Pfc. Vincent Mannion, one of the many injured servicemen she’s befriended during her visits to the Walter Reed hospital. When they first met, Mannion wasn’t expected to survive, but now he’s doing fine.
Nicks is, in her own way, also a survivor. She endured two rehab stints for two life-threatening addictions in two different decades; lost her best friend, Robin, to leukemia, which so rattled Nicks that she briefly married Robin’s widower in hopes of raising their child; faced numerous other deaths and illnesses around her, including the recent passing of her mother, and an 18-year-old godson from an overdose; and came to terms with the apparent inability of any man to live in the shadow of her career, leaving her to “depend on her music like a husband,” as she once sang.
Nicks made it through all of that and more to find herself, at age 66, an idol among millennials, and not just the women. Harry Styles went to two Forum shows in a row, paying homage to Nicks backstage. The latter-day L.A. band Haim unabashedly worship her, and Nicks reciprocates, hoping to work with them. “You can’t help but be in awe of her presence,” says Alana Haim. “She’s the most powerful person I’ve ever seen onstage.” Generational arbiter Tavi Gevinson, 18, declared, in her TED Talk, that “the lesson of all of this is just to be Stevie Nicks…because my favorite thing about her - other than, like everything - is that she has always been unapologetic about her flaws.” Indie-pop singer Sky Ferreira got her record deal partly on the strength of a “Stand Back” cover. “I’m heavily influenced by her,” Ferreira says. “And if other people are influenced by her, thank God, because that means there’s going to be better music.”
Next on the playlist is Nelly Furtado’s “Maneater”, thumping at an impressive volume. Nicks breaks into a funky, arm-waving dance from her makeup chair. Wincing slightly, she calls out to Johnston, ‘We don’t have an ice pack here do we? Because I need it.”
But her assistant had just been called out of the room on other business. “Um, Stevie?” Johnston says. “Lindsey has requested that we turn the music down.”
Nicks rolls her eyes, her expression matching the little girl’s the photograph. “OK, maybe we should go into a different tape, since he’s next door,” she says. “We can go with something that doesn’t have quite that much bang. All he’s probably hearing is the drum, like in a car. This is the first time he’s ever been next door to us. That can never happen again!”
She switches to a new playlist of singer-songwriters (Jackson Browne, Sting) and Lite FM-ish dude rock (Goo Goo Dolls, The Fray). Nicks has no fear of the uncool; She invited Kenny G to play on one of her albums, composes lyrics while listening to a New Age station on satellite radio and devoured the Twilight books by firelight, even writing a song inspired by Bella’s plight.
Nicks keeps adding her own perfect harmonies to the song on her playlist, rendering the chorus of “How to Save a Life” suddenly haunting (she thinks it’s about visiting a friend in rehab). “I never sing along to the melody,” she says. “I always go for the harmony. And that’s been since I was really little, because my granddad was a singer, and he would bring me 45s and he’d say, “You’re a harmony singer. You’re a perfect Everly Brother.” Her grandfather, A.J. Nicks, was a semipro country performer who wanted to take her on tour when she was five; her parents demurred.
After a few minutes, we hear pounding on the wall. The music still isn’t low enough. “Relations with Lindsey are exactly as they have been since we broke up,” says Nicks. “He and I will always be anatagonizing to each other, and we will always do things that will irritate each other, and we really know how to push each other’s buttons. We know exactly what to say when we really want to throw a dagger in. And I think that that’s not different now than it was when we were 20. And I don’t think it will be different when we’re 80.”
During tonight’s show, Nicks will sneeze in Buckingham’s face, possible giving him a cold she may be getting. It’s an accident, thought she can’t help giggling when she tells the story. There’s more tension than usual in the Mac tonight, largely because Stevie agreed to be on the cover of ROLLING STONE by herself in the middle of their tour. (“I told her, ‘I’m so proud of you,’” says guitarist Waddy Wachtel, an old friend of Nicks, “and “Oh, boy, they’re going to be pissed off!”) When Mick Fleetwood stops by Nicks’ dressing room to get his own makeup done, he shakes my hand, says hello and then pointedly ignores me for the rest of the night.
There are two members of Fleetwood Mac Stevie Nicks has never argued or had sex with: Christine McVie and her ex-husband John. The band’s lineup was highly unstable following its formation in 1967 as a blues act, in part because the band’s guitarists had a bad habit of going insane and/or joining cults. By the time Nicks and Buckingham came aboard, in 1975, founding members Fleetwood and John McVie had been joined by Christine, then John’s wife. Their only audition was nonmusical: Everyone wanted to make sure the two women would get along, which they did. McVie’s McCartney-like sense of melody had girded some of the band’s biggest hits, but she and Nicks were never competitive, mostly because they were so different. McVie’s aesthetic is more leather than lace, and she’s happily tethered to her keyboard onstage. She’s not a twirler.
“I’m a tomboy,” says McVie. “I love men. I love hanging around with men. And Stevie is kind of a girly girl.” (Another sign of their bond; McVie is also the only non-Stevie member of the Mac who agreed to talk for this story.). “Stevie is very direct, very honest, very self-obsessed in a way. And I don’t mean that in a bad way. She has her brand, you know? She’s an icon. She’s a genius. She’s a lovely, kind, beautiful woman, and I love her to death.”
Their friendship was cemented on the Rumours tour, as McVie and Nicks simultaneously weathered their intra-band breakups. “We would always try to have rooms right next door to each other,” recalls Nicks, “so we could sit on the floor and watch TV and talk, and not have any idea where Mick, Lindsey and John were, and not care. If we went to the hotel bar, the three guys would all be down there, and there would be all the chicks, and the two guys who didn’t really want to break up, and that wouldn’t go down well at all.”
When McVie left the band in 1997 to live a quiet life in the English countryside, “it was very hard for me”, says Nicks. “It became very much the boys’ club, a lot of testosterone.” But McVie unexpectedly un-retired this year, and her re-entry into the band has made Fleetwood Mac this season’s hottest classic-rock ticket, despite the fact that they played many of the same venues on their 2013 tour. “It’s as if those years never existed,” says McVie. “I’m going, ‘What the hell did I do for 15 years?’”
Nicks quit Fleetwood Mac once, in 1991 - but they reunited at Bill Clinton’s first inauguration, and then for good in 1997. She could have easily quit as early as 1981, when her first solo album, Bella Donna, was a smash, far outselling the Mac’s then-most-recent LP, Tusk. And it’s not like she hasn’t been tempted. Part of her has always wanted to run away from the machine, to just be an artist, to live by the beach and write. “There are all the little things,” Nicks says, “and the big things that I’ve always wanted to do but have always been on the back burner. But we choose to stay. Because we can’t do anything else. None of us are ever going to stand up and say, ‘I’m going to make my own choice for the first time in my life, and I’m going away, and I don’t know if I’m coming back.’”
When Nicks first began work on Bella Donna with producer Jimmy Iovine, who would become her boyfriend for a bit, she faced skepticism. “Believe it or not,” says Iovine, “people told me that no one could bear to listen to her on more than three songs on a record. Which sounded nuts.” Nicks has since released a total of eight solo albums, three more than Fleetwood Mac have managed since her solo career began. She rushed to record her most recent solo LP, 24 Karat Gold: Songs From The Vault, drawing from long-unrealized demos, in the mere nine weeks she had to spare before this tour (“She was saying, “You know, I’m not getting any younger,” says her producer Dave Stewart, “and I wanna put there down!”). “That was me listening to my own voice,” she says.
Despite her Eighties flirtation with pop stardom, Nicks is, as her friend and occasional duet partner Tom Petty puts it, “a true rock & roll chick, in the best way.” A rock singer needs a band, as Nicks noted when she saw Jefferson Airplane in the late Sixties. “Jefferson Airplane was a huge band, and Grace was definitely part of that band,” says Nicks. “It wasn’t Grace Slick and the Jefferson Airplane, it was the Jefferson Airplane. I liked that.”
Sometimes, though, Nicks could seem half-in, half-out. Petty was once hanging out at a Fleetwood Mac recording session when Christine McVie asked him to suggest a musical change to Nicks. “So I said, “Well, why don’t you just ask her,’” says Petty. “And she goes, ‘Oh, you know her so much better than we do,’ and I thought, ‘That’s strange.’”
Truth is, there was one offer that might have gotten Nicks to leave: “Had Tom Petty called me up one day and said, ‘If you want to leave Fleetwood Mac to be in the Heartbreakers, there’s a place for you’, I very well might have done it. Anytime. Today! Because it’s my favorite band.” For years, Petty told her that the Heartbreakers had a “no girls allowed” rule, but he recently gave her a platinum sheriff’s badge with the engraving, TO THE ONLY GIRL IN THE HEARTBREAKERS.
“Stevie and Lindsey both made really good records on their own, but when we all get excited is when they get together,” says Petty. “As with a lot of bands, when they realize that they’re gonna have to spend their lives together, they get a little grumpy with each other, because they know they’re joined at the hip.”
McVie’s songs are highlights on the current tour; In the row in front of me at one L.A. show, Red Hot Chilli Peppers drummer Chad Smith goes nuts when they play the MOR classic “Little Lies”. But the show’s core spectacle is still Nicks and Buckingham excavating and re-excavating their ancient romantic grievances. Whatever goes on up there - and it is reliably veers between spite (“Go Your Own Way”) and helpless affection (they do a hand-holding bit on “Landslide”) - Nicks insists that they never fake it, that it’s never just a Wild West show re-enactment of Seventies boomer dysfunction. (Relations did get so distant on their 2009 tour, however, that they mostly ignored each other onstage.) “You can go onstage and have a bit of a love affair,” Nicks says, “and when you go back to your separate dressing rooms, it’s over. But while you’re on the stage, it’s real. And if it isn’t real, people would really know it.”
Nicks stares herself down in a magnifying mirror, penciling a dramatic line just below her orbital ridge, as the playlist shifts to Jackson Browne’s “Somebody’s Baby”. She always does this part of her look herself, despite the presence of her longtime makeup artist. “It’s like an old movie star,” she says, perfecting the line. “You’re really creating an eyelid. It’s also Greta Garbo makeup, and Marlene Dietrich makeup. And that’s why, with these kind of eyes, you can never, ever do Botox.” She grabs her forehead just above her eyebrows. “Because it will drop this down and you will look like a freak. I did it once, and it was so awful for, like, four months. So you don’t look like yourself. You look like some relative that nobody spoke to. You see people my age that just look ghastly. Ghastly! You just want to go, “Really, stay in your house for four months! Don’t come out.””
Nicks has been doing her own eyes in this exact style since high school in the early Sixties, when she was a notably good girl (“If you were going out with somebody, you went to a movie and you came home and parked in the driveway, and you made out in a very not-a-big-deal way, and then you came in”). She wrote her first song, the break-up opus “I’ve Loved and I’ve Lost,” at age 16. Her mother, who worked until her husband’s success brought social pressure to stay home, encouraged independence: “You will go to school,” Nicks recalls being told, “and you will be independent, and you will never be dependent on a man. And you will have a really good education, and you will be able to stand in a room with a bunch of very smart men and keep up with them and never feel like a second-class citizen.”
Nicks grew up upper-middle class in Arizona, California, Texas, New Mexico and Utah, moving constantly, thanks to her father’s burgeoning career as a corporate executive - he eventually became president of Greyhound’s Armours-Dial. She went to two different high schools, first in an L.A. suburb and then in what is now Silicon Valley. At a youth-group social near the latter school, she met a gorgeous young guy named Lindsey, a year younger than her, harmonized with him on “California Dreamin’”, and thought nothing more of it until his band, Fritz, reached out with an offer to join. She accepted and was soon commuting to San Francisco from college in San Jose to open for the likes of Janis Joplin and the Airplane. Nicks immediately got more attention than her male bandmates, to their displeasure. “We were being booked like crazy,” she recalls. “But they’d all say, “We want to book the band with the blondy brown-haired girl.”
After a few years, producers took Buckingham and Nicks aside to let them know that they’d have a better chance as a duo. They dumped Fritz, spent a year demo’ing at Buckingham’s father’s coffee plant, and then moved to L.A. As Nicks recalls, there was something sexy in the shared betrayal. “It was like, ‘Well, we’ve done it now,’” she says. “‘We’ve completely screwed up their lives forever now. So why not?’ So we became a couple. And from the very beginning Lindsey was very controlling and very possessive. And after hearing all of the stories from my mother and how independent she was and how independent she made me, I was never very good with possessive people or with controlling people.”
They made a solid album together, Buckingham Nicks (with a topless cover that mortified Nicks), but it flopped. By the time Mick Fleetwood heard the demos for their second album and offered them slots in his band, Nicks was working as a waitress as a restaurant called Clementine’s, driving a car that couldn’t go in reverse. They had nearly broken up under the stress, with Nicks briefly moving out of their apartment. As Fleetwood Mac members, they were immediately put on salary, and Nicks decided she was rich and would be so forever. “I said, ‘That’s it. I’ve never looking at another price tag,’” she says, laughing. “And I meant it.” Their 1975 debut with Fleetwood Mac, which included both “Rhiannon” and “Landslide”, instantly redefined the band. For a while, they were happy. “How could you not be happy? You were going with a drop-dead-gorgeous man who sang like an angel, and the world was yours, and you were in a band that was already somewhat famous in Europe. I mean, things were looking up.”
But in 1976, after spending months helping each other record songs for Rumours about their troubled relationship, Buckingham and Nicks had a final fight. “I’m done”, she told him, though she vaguely remembers a few drunken lapses in the months that followed. Somehow, the band kept on, and Buckingham kept arranging and producing Nicks’ songs. “Lindsey has this phenomenal understanding of what Stevie means on her demos,” says McVie. “And I don’t. She comes to me with a song and I go, ‘I don’t know what the **** you mean.’”
Recording 1979’s Tusk was stressful. Nicks was carrying on an affair with the married Fleetwood and didn’t really understand Buckingham’s studio experimentation. At the same time, the band’s drug use was escalating. “That really didn’t help out irritability levels,” says Nicks. “If you’re not happy with someone, then just go do some coke and see how much unhappier you can be. But you think that crap is helping you, so you do it because you think you’re getting better. You think you’re, like, immortal, like you’re just going to live forever, when you’re doing coke in the beginning.”
Buckingham behaved badly on the Tusk tour, mocking Nicks’ shawl-dancing in front of a crowd, kicking her onstage, and even, as Nicks and McVie recall, throwing a Les Paul at Nicks’ head during the show. (“I’m not sure that happened,” Buckingham has said.”). That night, McVie slapped him, and Nicks was “ready to kick his ass.” “It was a very difficult thing for me to have had Stevie break up with me and still be in a band with her,” Buckingham told me in 2013, “and to have to produce her and in a sense be a [art of this engine that was helping her move even further away from me - to never get the closure you get when breaking up with someone by not seeing them. Because we had to continue to be in this pressure cooker and do the right thing for the band. It was a difficult emotional time for years, and I think it took its toll in terms of my emotional availability and my temper.”
For all of that - and a nasty confrontation when Buckingham left the band for a while in 1987 - Nicks never quite gave up on a possible future together until he had his first child in 1998. “Because we started out so young together, both Lindsey and I would always laughingly say - which we both knew was never going to happen - that, like, when we were 90, and everybody else was dead, maybe we would end up together in an old folks’ home, because of what we had gone though, just him and me, for a long, long, long time. So when his first child was coming, I think we were walking in an airport, and I said, “Well, I guess we’re never going to get to that old folks’ home.” And he’s like, ‘Yeah, I guess we never are.’ It was something that we said in kind of a poignant way.”
For all her crystal-visionary mysticism and chiffon-hoarding, Stevie Nicks is not, as best as can be determined, an actual witch - though she did tweak years of rumors by playing one on American Horror Story. She always kind of wanted to be one, but never the evil kind. “I had a great love for Halloween, and for being a witchy character, from when I was six years old,” says Nicks. “And my mom and I argued about it every single year, that she was very tired of making witch costumes.” When she was in fourth grade, her mom made her a yellow Martha Washington costume. Nicks dyed it black.
She’s never really had ‘crystal visions’, but there are times when lyrics come to her unbidden, as if she’s “channeling some poet”. She’s confident she’s lived before this life: “I was definitely a performer in another life. Maybe I was in vaudeville or a ballerina. I’m too comfortable onstage.” And more to the point, there have always been moments in her performances when she taps into the ineffable, when something…odd seems to happen. She would work herself into head-shaking, closed-eyes, barely controlled frenzies during the coda of “Rhiannon”, her signature tale of, well, a witch; and then there is a stunning 1982 performance of “Sisters of the Moon”, captured on film and available on YouTube, in which she begins to caterwaul what are either nonsense syllables or an ancient faerie language.
On the current tour, Nicks dips back into this territory most nights during “Gold Dust Woman” the darkest track on Rumours. Buckingham called it “evil”, and it was weirdly prophetic, with its image of a woman digging her grave with a coke spoon, well before Nicks’ and her bandmates’ drug use seemed problematic. The version they’re playing now can stretch past 11 minutes, and while the band slips into an ominous, psychedelic breakdown, Nicks loses herself in dance, silhouetted against the stage, her hair merging with a golden shawl to form a winglike nimbus. At the Forum, she banged her head, waved her arms, shook her hips as she glided across the stage. There, in the shadow, she could have been 27 again.(“It’s like, ‘How are you doing this?’ says Alana Haim, who’s witnessed this moment. “It’s the craziest thing I’ve ever seen”).
The magic comes with a price - in this case, Nicks’ back pains. She was especially heedless in L.A. “The adrenaline hits me, and it’s like I could twist my head right off my body,” she says after that show, the night before Anaheim. “And I really hurt my back. I need ice every single morning when I wake up. I go ‘You gold-dusted out las night’. It’s the drug-addict in ‘Gold Dust Woman’ who is breaking her back. She’s out there and she’s looking for drugs, and I’m trying to create that situation onstage so people get what it’s about, which was a very heavy, bad time in my life.”
By the mid-Eighties, Nicks was risking her life with each bump of cocaine - doctors found a permanent hole in the cartilage of her nose. As it turns out, the hole was created by another drug: She used to dissolve aspirin in her water and squirt the solution into her nose as a headache cure, not realizing aspirin is an acid. “I thought I was being the best, most hygienic nurse ever,” she says.
In any case, she was a mess by 1986 or so, and her friends were scared, even if they shared their habits. ‘All of us were drug addicts,” says Nicks. “But there was a point where I was the worst drug addict….I was a girl, I was fragile, and I was doing a lot of coke. And I had that hole in my nose. So it was dangerous.”
“I did all I could to talk her into getting some help and getting right,” says Petty. “I was very worried about her. To the point that if the phone did ring and they said, ‘Stevie died,’ I wouldn’t have been surprised.”
At the end of her 1986 Rock A Little tour, she checked herself into rehab, and as she recalls it, told them, “Here I am. Fix me. Here’s all my problems, just fix me.” They did, more or less, but then a psychiatrist she calls “Dr ****head” prescribed her Klonopin, which led to at least as bad an addiction and another, worse, rehab stint in 1993.
Nicks never considered herself an alcoholic, and she still smokes a bit of weed, albeit as a creativity aid. “When I’m writing I will allow myself to smoke a little bit of pot,” she says. “It’s my one little thing that I can do. If I’m sitting at the piano and I’m writing, then I’m not out driving around in a car. Nobody is here, nobody sees me. I am not smoking with anybody. It’s just me, and it’s my choice. I use it as a tool, and I’m very careful, you know? And I get results. However, if I thought it was going to lead me back to something worse, I’d stop.”
There are many rooms in Stevie Nicks’ house, and she lives in none of them. Nicks bought a suitable grand semi-mansion just a few miles away from her condo around 2005, and pretty quickly realized that it wasn’t meant to be her home. “This is way too much house for me”, she says, greeting me there on a Sunday evening. “When I came and looked at this house, there was a family with a set of twins and two other children living here. It was jumpin’, this house, you know? And I was like, “Oh, it’s so fantastic! And then of course when I moved in, there’s no furniture and the family was gone and I’m like, ‘What happened? It’s empty!’ I thought the family came with the house!”
So she switched to the condo, where she feels young and unburdened. But Kellianne, one her many godchildren, lives at the house, taking care of the property, and Nicks used it to record her 2011 album In Your Dreams. All the recording equipment is here, and there are three pianos in the stairwell, including a pristine white Steinway that belonged to Leon Russell - she’s trying to figure out if it would fit into her condo somewhere. The piano is decorated year-round for Halloween. Sitting atop it are a large sculpture of a dragon, two ghoulish skeleton dolls, a glittery skull and, for good measure, a pair of Vivienne Westwood high heels.
It’s the day after the Anaheim show, and Nicks has some errands to run at the big house before heading off to the next concert, in Arizona. There, she’ll have a chance to see her brother, who recently recovered from bladder cancer. She’s wearing prescription sunglasses and more silken black. On her neck is a diamond-encrusted version of her trademark moon necklace, given to her by the jeweler father of a young fan named Sara, who became a friend before she died of cancer in her early twenties. It has 32 stones, one for each show Sara attended.
“Karen, I need the burn cream,” Nicks says, turning to me. “We had a pretty terrible accident two hours ago.” The accident, it transpired, involved some overheated green squash soup, which Nicks was eating for “breakfast” in bed, along with some eggs around 4pm. It spilled on Nicks’ hand, so she’s slathering it with an ointment she calls “Iraqi burn cream.” “It’s what they they put on burns victims,” she says. “Everyone should have this.”
There are three fireplaces going, and crystal chandeliers hang in almost every room. Nicks shows me a nook in the library, a window seat where she’d perch for hours in contemplation after the death of her mother in 2011. You can see the ocean through the window, and, if you look hard enough, her condo. “This room is magical,” she says.
Losing her mother, even at age 84, was shattering. Nicks moved back into the big house and went into seclusion. “I had to really get over the fact that my little mother - who was always the one to give me advice, from the day I joined the band with Lindsey in 1968, who was the lady on the other end of the phone telling me what was the right thing to do - was gone. And I was just horrified. I realized at that point, when I started to come out of it, that I was going to try and be as great as I could be and do the best I can in my work and also not take anything for granted and do the things that I want to do.”
But lately, she’s been hearing her mother’s voice again. “She says stuff to me that nobody in my world who’s alive can think of to say. And I now know there’s the other side, because of my mother. I know my mom’s tone, and I know her philosophy, and when I hear her answer a question for me, I go, like “There is another world.” I am no longer thinking what people tell you, like, “There’s nothing”. Well, there is. There is totally something, and Mom is on the other side.”
Nicks’ own closest brush with being a mom was when Robin Snyder Anderson, her best friend since childhood, died of leukemia just after giving birth in 1982. Doctors managed to save the child, and a dazed, coked-up, grieving Nicks married Robin’s widower. It lasted all of three months. “He was like, ‘Well, there’s no time in your life for Matthew or me.’ And I thought to myself, ‘Well, boy, are you right. There’s not.” As she prepared to go on the road, she told him she wanted a divorce. But she later reunited with Matthew, now 32, and paid for his college. Nicks is also a nurturing godmotherly figure to many young women, including Fleetwood’s daughters, who range in age from 12 to 43. When Nicks took care of a drunken and upset Vanessa Carlton one night, she told her, “That’s what mommies do for their babies” - and she flew to New York at the end of 2014 to be around for the due date of Carlton’s child.
Nicks has dated her share of rock stars, including both Don Henley and Joe Walsh of The Eagles, but they weren’t any better at dealing with the demands of her career. “The rock & roll people I went with - they didn’t understand my life either,” she says. “You would think they would have, but they didn’t. They weren’t all that different than your normal lawyer, because they thought, in the egos of men, that I would be giving up a part of my life for them. And I wasn’t going to do that. I was also in a band that was equally as famous as their bands, so that wasn’t going to work for them, because they thought I should be taking the woman’s place there. That was everything that my mother taught me not to ever do.”
In the late Nineties, she tries dating a younger, nonfamous dude - a waiter, in fact - but that didn’t work either. “I was 50 and he was 30, and he was a very old 30 - he had two little boys and was a very nice man,” she recalls, sitting on a maroon couch in her living room, where a vocal mic is still rigged up overhead. On the glass coffee table are her burn cream; a water-damaged copy of an Oscar Wilde anthology she’s had for decades, filled with her old underlinings; two unlit candles; a book about Jimi Hendrix; and a bowl decorated with the lyrics of “Landslide” - a gift from the Dixie Chicks. “And he really cared about me.” But she found the situation embarrassing and tried to keep him under wraps. “One day, he came home and said, “I got two tickets for Bill Maher, will you go with me?” and I’m like, ‘Are you insane!? No, I’m not going. I’m famous! I’m Stevie Nicks! Everybody’s gonna spend the whole time taking pictures of us. And I can’t keep on making excuses about why you can’t go anywhere I can go. Like, can I take you to the Grammys? No. Can I go the market with you? No. Can we go to a movie together in downtown Santa Monica? No. All we can do is stay in.”
So she’s ruled out younger men and doesn’t particularly want to date older ones: “What if I fall in love with somebody and they die?” And she doesn’t hold out much hope for guys her age. “They wanna go out with somebody that’s 25,” she says. “That has been going on since the Bible, and I haven’t even read the Bible, but I know that. So what am I gonna do, compete with that? I’m not a competitor. So I don’t even wanna be in that situation.”
So, in short, ‘I’ve narrowed it down to nobody,” she says, and laughs hard. “Sounds like a good country song, doesn’t it?” She begins to sing: “I’ve narrowed it down to nobody/Nobody’s the right one for me.” Her most recent relationship ended in 2004, and if it turns out to be her final romance, she can deal with it. “I had a lot of great relationships,” she says. “A lot of great, totally sexy, totally romantic relationships. Don Henley flew me in a cranberry-colored jet to the Omni in Atlanta during Hotel California. I have had experiences that have been so amazing that if I never go out with anybody again, my memories are so full of incredibly beautiful, sensual, fantastic experiences that it’s OK… And my life today is great, and I have wonderful friends, and I have music.”
Nicks has a lot of plans for her future: She wants to do a TV show or movie based on the original Welsh Rhiannon myth. Maybe she’ll finally write the memoir people keep asking about, though it won’t be “the dirty sex book they want”. She wants to write novels, to produce young artists. She wants to spend time in the third home she has nearby, an opulent seaside trailer. “I have been so ensconced in being in Fleetwood Mac and being in my own solo work,” she says. “When I choose for all of that to come to an end, then that door will fly open for me. And I will walk into my trailer, and I will, like, fall to my knees on my cushy white rug and look out at the ocean and go, ‘I am finally free. I can now do all of those thing I’ve always wanted to do.’
“And then maybe I’ll take a break and move to Paris and live another couple of years there,” she continues. “And learn to speak French and go out with some really old guys from Paris that are 102. It’s all going to be good, and I did what I came here to do. My mom said, ‘You have always been on a mission. Your mission has been to entertain the world. And you have done it since you were five years old.’”
It’s getting late, and Nicks’ hairdresser has come by to prep her for her next day’s show. But before I go, she has her assistant bring out a stack of canvases: the drawings and paintings Nicks has been working on for decades. Nicks discovered a sudden talent for visual art around the time of Robin’s death, and she’s convinced it was a parting gift from her friend. There’s an outsider-art quality - and a distinct power - to her dream-logic compositions, which tend to be dominated by pretty but forlorn female faces, surrounded by abstract shapes (“This is really my forte - the stuff that looks like bones and teeth”) and interwoven crystalline structures. Nicks started many of them late at night in the early Eighties. More often than not, she was on drugs and feeling “alone and lost in a lot of ways.”
Sometimes she’d start a painting, then ruin it when she was “totally stoned” - she shows me one that’s slathered in muddy brown and glitter: “This is too much drugs,” she says. “Probably Klonopin.”
That one can’t be fixed. But when she gets the time, she likes to take out her other drawings and add to them, to fix them, to try to undo mistakes she made when she was young and high and lost. “I’m never finished with them” Nicks says, looking at a sad, beautiful face from long ago. “I can bring them back to life.”
michelej1
01-14-2015, 12:07 AM
Brilliant, thank you so much for transcribing and thanks to Alicia too. There are many good quotes here.
Don't you go thinking there was an adjoining door between the rooms, Nicole.
Michele
sorcerer999
01-14-2015, 12:26 AM
Brilliant, thank you so much for transcribing and thanks to Alicia too. There are many good quotes here.
Ditto!!! Great read! Thanks Nicole and Alicia!!! :)
WildHearted
01-14-2015, 12:36 AM
I was so confused at first because it sounded like the interview was taking place at Stevie's condo, since she kept describing it... but then all of a sudden Lindsey was next door, and I thought, "Did he rent the condo next door to her? Of all the condos in LA? Are they really that weird?" and forced myself to go back and read the whole thing again to clarify :lol: I'm relieved to find out I have extremely poor comprehension skills, somehow.
michelej1
01-14-2015, 12:59 AM
So, he sang like an angel?
Sneezed in his face :sorry: .
So, I was thinking that her mother was cool for letting her dress like a witch before, but now Stevie is more of a rebel and she fought with her mom and dyed the costume herself.
I like that Tom Petty contributed to the story.
Michele
WildHearted
01-14-2015, 01:10 AM
“This is me in third grade,” she says, “right before getting kicked out of Catholic School.” (In fact, she explains later, her parents let her quit, thought she clearly prefers the version where she’s expelled.)
God bless.
bombaysaffires
01-14-2015, 02:20 AM
funny how in one of the last big interviews she did, the interviewer came to her condo and her bed at that time was one of those memory foam, tempur-pedic beds, which was on the floor not in a bed frame. She said she was returning it, because when she sat up in it to read or do work or whatever she sank too far down in it. The reporter noted this was like the umpteenth bed she was returning because she couldn't find one that was just right (like Goldilocks). Girl has bed issues. :lol:
SpyNote
01-14-2015, 02:32 AM
Nicks has a lot of plans for her future: She wants to do a TV show or movie based on the original Welsh Rhiannon myth.
Think this may finally happen?
bombaysaffires
01-14-2015, 03:18 AM
thanks for typing this all out Nicole!! Wow. As always, a treasure trove of Stevie sh*t. Love it!
McVie is also the only non-Stevie member of the Mac who agreed to talk for this story.).
this seems like Chris sticking to her 'no drama' credo. I love her for that. **Though I don't know what a "non-Stevie member of the band" is.. I mean, isn't that everyone, by definition??
It's interesting with Lindsey banging on the wall in apparent irritation…. after all the "we talked like we hadn't talked before in 35 years and became great friends" in all the interviews last tour. :roll eyes:
.."But we choose to stay. Because we can’t do anything else. None of us are ever going to stand up and say, ‘I’m going to make my own choice for the first time in my life, and I’m going away, and I don’t know if I’m coming back.’”
um, this seems to fly in the face of the actual facts, like where Lindsey did just this, and then so did Chris until her current return. :eek:
There’s more tension than usual in the Mac tonight, largely because Stevie agreed to be on the cover of ROLLING STONE by herself in the middle of their tour. (“I told her, ‘I’m so proud of you,’” says guitarist Waddy Wachtel, an old friend of Nicks, “and “Oh, boy, they’re going to be pissed off!”) When Mick Fleetwood stops by Nicks’ dressing room to get his own makeup done, he shakes my hand, says hello and then pointedly ignores me for the rest of the night.
Seems a contrast to the tv interview where she and Mick were all hand-holdy and she combed his beard with her fingers.
the show’s core spectacle is still Nicks and Buckingham excavating and re-excavating their ancient romantic grievances
Love this description.
Whatever goes on up there - and it is reliably veers between spite (“Go Your Own Way”) and helpless affection (they do a hand-holding bit on “Landslide”) - Nicks insists that they never fake it, that it’s never just a Wild West show re-enactment of Seventies boomer dysfunction.
Color me still a bit skeptical on this one.
I'm not sure I ever got the feeling that Stevie's mom was all that independent, but maybe she was for her times. She seemed all about supporting her husband's career and all that. :shrug:
“Lindsey has this phenomenal understanding of what Stevie means on her demos,” says McVie. “And I don’t. She comes to me with a song and I go, ‘I don’t know what the **** you mean.’”
Love this quote! So Christine :D
“Gold Dust Woman” the darkest track on Rumours. Buckingham called it “evil”,
really? when/where was this quote given? does anyone have it?
By the mid-Eighties, Nicks was risking her life with each bump of cocaine - doctors found a permanent hole in the cartilage of her nose. As it turns out, the hole was created by another drug: She used to dissolve aspirin in her water and squirt the solution into her nose as a headache cure, not realizing aspirin is an acid. “I thought I was being the best, most hygienic nurse ever,” she says.
I find it curious that this new version of what happened to her nose has only come out in the last couple of years….. tho it sounds sufficiently wacky-Stevie thing to do…
she still smokes a bit of weed, albeit as a creativity aid.
ha ha, that's coz she was busted on the SYW documentary.:lol: she can't deny it. and of course, now it's legal and so very acceptable. LOL
In the late Nineties, she tries dating a younger, nonfamous dude - a waiter, in fact - but that didn’t work either. “I was 50 and he was 30, and he was a very old 30 - he had two little boys and was a very nice man,” she recalls, sitting on a maroon couch in her living room, where a vocal mic is still rigged up overhead... “And he really cared about me.” But she found the situation embarrassing and tried to keep him under wraps. “One day, he came home and said, “I got two tickets for Bill Maher, will you go with me?” and I’m like, ‘Are you insane!? No, I’m not going. I’m famous! I’m Stevie Nicks! Everybody’s gonna spend the whole time taking pictures of us. And I can’t keep on making excuses about why you can’t go anywhere I can go. Like, can I take you to the Grammys? No. Can I go the market with you? No. Can we go to a movie together in downtown Santa Monica? No. All we can do is stay in.”
I find this so sad. Really, she's embarrassed by the age difference? How "rebellious" is that?? I feel bad for that guy. "I'm famous!" "I'm Stevie Nicks!" Yes, but you're also just a person and this guy cares for you. Oy. :confused:
I'm always amazed at when this woman had time for all she did-- she was apparently always writing songs, but then she was up all night rearranging furniture and taking selfies, and here she says she was up all night painting. Good ole' cocaine. :roll eyes:
edited to add:
The ex in question, Lindsey Buckingham, is a formidable frontman, a virtuosic guitar innovator, an obsessive studio genius à la Brian Wilson, a snappy dresser with first-class cheekbones. He would be the undisputed star of almost any other band.
Snappy dresser? Not so's you notice lately. And what, no mention of the blue eyes??
Lisa W
01-14-2015, 03:37 AM
Ditto!!! Great read! Thanks Nicole and Alicia!!! :)
Please accept my thanks as well! This was a lot of work in such a short time!!
I also had to backtrack a few times to follow the changes in interview locations. Overall, a great piece, even if I already know so much of what was included. The Christine and Tom Petty comments were my favorite, as they were both so candid.
Nickingham
01-14-2015, 03:41 AM
Thank you for posting the pics and typing up the article guys! :thumbsup:
Wow, she looks gorgeous! I'm so happy Stevie is on RS again!
But that shirt..... :confused:
StreetAngel86
01-14-2015, 04:33 AM
Sometimes she’d start a painting, then ruin it when she was “totally stoned” - she shows me one that’s slathered in muddy brown and glitter: “This is too much drugs,” she says. “Probably Klonopin.”
FORGET the exhibitions of polaroids
THIS is the $h !t i want to see showcased
can you just imagine the progressive stages of addiction ... :lol:
this article was hilarious btw and kinda sad.
thanks nicole :nod:
Jondalar
01-14-2015, 05:45 AM
This cover is HUGE!!!!!! It is major for her and other aging female rockers!
StreetAngel86
01-14-2015, 05:48 AM
This cover is HUGE!!!!!! It is major for her and other aging female rockers!
whilst older rockers may be ageing
Mama is de-ageing ... or at the very least, ageing progressively slower than average joe (not walsh :shocked:)
twinmatrix
01-14-2015, 07:20 AM
Stupid question: can someone please tell me how I can buy a copy of the magazine?
I'm in the Netherlands, Europe.
I can only find digital copies on the internet and none of them feature Stevie Nicks... I'm confused. Would really like to physically buy this one, as apparently it also features Madonna. :)
Macfanforever
01-14-2015, 10:36 AM
Stupid question: can someone please tell me how I can buy a copy of the magazine?
I'm in the Netherlands, Europe.
I can only find digital copies on the internet and none of them feature Stevie Nicks... I'm confused. Would really like to physically buy this one, as apparently it also features Madonna. :)
You can have somebody send you a copy to you.Or scan it and email the requested pages to you which it would be free.
BlueDenimLamp
01-14-2015, 10:50 AM
Stevie's tweet says to go to RS at 11:00AM for a special surprise. Where are you supposed to go to? The link provided only has the current issue and I don't see anything about an upcoming Stevie Nicks surprise. Anyone know?
Stevie's tweet says to go to RS at 11:00AM for a special surprise. Where are you supposed to go to? The link provided only has the current issue and I don't see anything about an upcoming Stevie Nicks surprise. Anyone know?
no clue, I'm on RS.com, continually refreshing page, anxiously waiting
Jondalar
01-14-2015, 10:55 AM
People should be more excited!
Where is everyone?
People should be more excited!
Where is everyone?
SO FN EXCITED.... 3 minutes, but who's counting!
Danigirl
01-14-2015, 10:58 AM
"Stevie is very direct, very honest, very self-obsessed in a way. And I don't mean that in a bad way. She has her brand, you know? She's an icon. She's a genius. She's a lovely, kind, beautiful woman, and I love her to death." - Christine McVie, from the Rolling Stone article.
Gosh I love her.
Danigirl
01-14-2015, 11:01 AM
Sometimes she’d start a painting, then ruin it when she was “totally stoned” - she shows me one that’s slathered in muddy brown and glitter: “This is too much drugs,” she says. “Probably Klonopin.”
FORGET the exhibitions of polaroids
THIS is the $h !t i want to see showcased
can you just imagine the progressive stages of addiction ... :lol:
this article was hilarious btw and kinda sad.
thanks nicole :nod:
Bahahahahaha that would be awesome!
kak125
01-14-2015, 11:02 AM
i dont see anything on their site yet. wtf?
BlueDenimLamp
01-14-2015, 11:03 AM
I bet @Stevie Nicks posted the wrong link.
i dont see anything on their site yet. wtf?
dont see anything anywhere, wtf2!
kak125
01-14-2015, 11:05 AM
this is crap! how hard is it for them to update their site by 11? ridiculous!
olive
01-14-2015, 11:05 AM
i don't see anything about it
MoonSister75
01-14-2015, 11:08 AM
I bet @Stevie Nicks posted the wrong link.
That's very possible. It seems a bit odd that it's the main website address. Oh no...if so...where is this big surprise happening right now? :eek:
Macfanforever
01-14-2015, 11:10 AM
I kept refreshing and no updates.Maybe its on FB or elsewhere.
Johnny Stew
01-14-2015, 11:11 AM
Outstanding article! Stevie looks amazing in the new pics, and the interview was everything I'd want it to be -- candid, kooky, poignant, funny.
It's sad that the Male Maccers couldn't just be happy for her about this (well, Mick & Lindsey -- I'm sure John didn't give a hoot about it either way). Whether their faces were on the cover or not, the band was mentioned throughout the entire article. So it's fantastic publicity for Fleetwood Mac as a whole, and not just for Stevie.
Oh well.
Now I can't wait to see the surprise performance on RollingStone.com!
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/stevie-nicks-looks-back-inside-rolling-stones-new-issue-20150114
"Stevie Nicks Looks Back: Inside Rolling Stone's New Issue
The rock goddess appears solo on our cover for the first time since 1981 and performs an exclusive acoustic "Gypsy""
Macfanforever
01-14-2015, 11:14 AM
I'd checked Yahoo music an there is nothing in the RS section.
olive
01-14-2015, 11:15 AM
this was posted Jan 14 I hope it's not it
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/17-reasons-this-rhiannon-clip-is-the-coolest-thing-in-the-universe-20150114
DauphineMarie
01-14-2015, 11:16 AM
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/stevie-nicks-looks-back-inside-rolling-stones-new-issue-20150114
EXCLUSIVE GYPSY PERFORMANCE
Macfanforever
01-14-2015, 11:16 AM
This just popped up.
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/17-reasons-this-rhiannon-clip-is-the-coolest-thing-in-the-universe-20150114
olive
01-14-2015, 11:17 AM
this was posted Jan 14 I hope it's not it
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/17-reasons-this-rhiannon-clip-is-the-coolest-thing-in-the-universe-20150114
and it wasn't but they found a way to slip it in
olive
01-14-2015, 11:20 AM
This just popped up.
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/17-reasons-this-rhiannon-clip-is-the-coolest-thing-in-the-universe-20150114
this is it
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/stevie-nicks-looks-back-inside-rolling-stones-new-issue-20150114
paleshadow
01-14-2015, 11:23 AM
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/stevie-nicks-looks-back-inside-rolling-stones-new-issue-20150114
"Stevie Nicks Looks Back: Inside Rolling Stone's New Issue
The rock goddess appears solo on our cover for the first time since 1981 and performs an exclusive acoustic "Gypsy""
That was great! One of her better alone at the piano performances in a long time, and I think how Gypsy should be performed live from now on. :)
kak125
01-14-2015, 11:25 AM
That was great! One of her better alone at the piano performances in a long time, and I think how Gypsy should be performed live from now on. :)
i agree! i was pleasantly surprised by how good her voice sounded too. very nice!
BlueDenimLamp
01-14-2015, 11:26 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Stevie Nicks appears solo on our cover for the first time since 1981. See her perform “Gypsy” and preview the story: <a href="http://t.co/d0nz3iDRVJ">http://t.co/d0nz3iDRVJ</a></p>— Rolling Stone (@RollingStone) <a href="https://twitter.com/RollingStone/status/555397152252657664">January 14, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Danigirl
01-14-2015, 11:29 AM
"You Gold-Dusted out last night" ok this is my new favorite phrase.
louielouie2000
01-14-2015, 11:31 AM
i agree! i was pleasantly surprised by how good her voice sounded too. very nice!
Likewise. The woman has finally stopped shouting at us and is singing again. :thumbsup:
MoonSister75
01-14-2015, 11:35 AM
Well I'm very happy with the surprises - The cover of Rolling Stone, fantastic article to go with it and this acoustic Gypsy. Go Stevie!! It's understandable if the men of the mac are feeling a little envious, but this is great promotion for both FM and Stevie. :cool:
Danigirl
01-14-2015, 11:38 AM
Very natural and effortless singing. One of my favorites of her more recent performances. I like to see her give us "her" now not trying to imitate her singing from yesteryear.
deribish
01-14-2015, 11:40 AM
Isnt this lovely!
tabruns
01-14-2015, 11:41 AM
Love mama but can't help but wonder if part of her feels a need to reassert herself as the alpha female in FM. I mean why now? Why not have gone for this around the release of say ,,IYD. with the documentary and all?? I know it will inflame some but I see her ego all over this.
Are you kidding? Do you think Nicks can just pick and choose and inform RS when they will feature her?
The fact that she's a legacy artist and got on the cover at all is HUGE. I seriously doubt this has a thing at all to do with trying to assert anything over McVie. Come on.
BlueDenimLamp
01-14-2015, 11:42 AM
http://i1361.photobucket.com/albums/r663/Nicksiannation/lg5_zpsec9243d6.png
Stevie's popularity has certainly boosted the ratings here.
http://i1361.photobucket.com/albums/r663/Nicksiannation/lg6_zps377cd314.png
And it's still high.
sorcerer999
01-14-2015, 11:43 AM
I think this performance of "Gypsy" was really something exquisite!!! I agree with whoever said she should perform it like this from now on. The full band version with Fleetwood Mac (an example being the last Today show performance) has just lost all of its magic these days. With this intimate, stripped down version, quiet and reimagined vocals ~ the magic is back!!!
Jondalar
01-14-2015, 11:44 AM
That is a great cover. Reminds me of the Stepford Wives with a twist.
olive
01-14-2015, 11:49 AM
[QUOTE=tabruns;1158098 Do you think Nicks can just pick and choose and inform RS when they will feature her?
.[/QUOTE]
no that is what her publicist is paid to do
GypsySorcerer
01-14-2015, 11:50 AM
Yes, lovely, understated performance. She looks amazing, too. Great cover shot. Go Stevie! :thumbsup:
BlueDenimLamp
01-14-2015, 11:54 AM
http://i1361.photobucket.com/albums/r663/Nicksiannation/rs3_zps8f4cda9a.png
Rolling Stone has 4,180,000 (that's 4.18 million) followers on twitter...If this isn't great promotion I don't know what is.
bombaysaffires
01-14-2015, 12:26 PM
Love it. And Lindsey should love it too, because it clearly shows just how much work he puts into the arrangements of her songs to make them radio friendly.... She only gives him the bare bones to start with.
Lisa W
01-14-2015, 12:31 PM
This Gypsy performance is really lovely and I think it is the perfect complement to the article content. There is a real sorrow as she sings "I still see your bright eyes..." that got me choked up a bit. The first time I ever saw Stevie up close in person was just before she left Kim Anderson. Watching her sing this in such an intimate setting reminded me of how sad she looked that day.
Macfanforever
01-14-2015, 12:38 PM
I'm uploading my copy now and it should be done in an hour.
BlueDenimLamp
01-14-2015, 12:51 PM
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/4dSJQdDqv0s" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
It's up at Rolling Stone's channel.
If you use Downloader (http://www.clipconverter.cc/) you can down load a copy of "Gypsy" video from youtube.
jcalzaretta
01-14-2015, 12:55 PM
wonder if sales of Gypsy as a single increase now.
Macfanforever
01-14-2015, 01:30 PM
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/4dSJQdDqv0s" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
It's up at Rolling Stone's channel.
If you use Downloader (http://www.clipconverter.cc/) you can down load a copy of "Gypsy" video from youtube.
I figure sooner or later it would be up on YT.
Thanks for the link.
gssmith
01-14-2015, 02:03 PM
I think this performance of "Gypsy" was really something exquisite!!! I agree with whoever said she should perform it like this from now on. The full band version with Fleetwood Mac (an example being the last Today show performance) has just lost all of its magic these days. With this intimate, stripped down version, quiet and reimagined vocals ~ the magic is back!!!
I actually think this years version on tour is the best Gypsy has ever sounded live. I really love the "Hey baby!" high parts. I like this too. Her voice sounds great. I was worried she'd scream like in Lady.
Rachelclaire
01-14-2015, 02:32 PM
I love it, Stevie looks amazing and I loved her singing Gypsy, so beautiful. I am so happy for her. Brilliant day to be a fan. Loved that she admitted to smoking weed and playing music so loud it annoyed Lindsey. :lol: :lol::lol: My Queen rocks. xx
welcomechris
01-14-2015, 02:46 PM
She still smokes pot. Geesh alrighty then
Feather Blade
01-14-2015, 02:50 PM
Love that she has a cover and she looks lovely, however, a small nitpick. The hat is new, but we've seen the chain mail gloves on stage so many times, and I would dearly love to see her in something other than that same old black cold-shoulder top. She's been making a lot of appearances out & about these past couple of years, but it seems like it is always that same uniform. However, despite all my moaning and groaning about fashion choices, I am truly happy she's getting such good exposure. Take note rest of the band: Having new product equals more promotion. Sure wish they could all get together and work on getting a group effort out.
WildHearted
01-14-2015, 03:01 PM
I love this version of Gypsy - it's very reminiscent of the piano demo, which is a favorite of mine.
sorcerer999
01-14-2015, 03:17 PM
She still smokes pot. Geesh alrighty then
Nothing wrong with that. Contrary to right wing propaganda, pot is neither addictive nor a "gateway drug".
Jondalar
01-14-2015, 03:23 PM
Not sure if people realize how major this is.
Feather Blade
01-14-2015, 03:29 PM
Nothing wrong with that. Contrary to right wing propaganda, pot is neither addictive nor a "gateway drug".
Perhaps that was more a reference to the fact that those who have been through rehab are counseled to stay away from ALL chemicals. (though I'm just guessing at what he was saying, I could be wrong)
jkmaletic
01-14-2015, 03:34 PM
Nothing wrong with that. Contrary to right wing propaganda, pot is neither addictive nor a "gateway drug".
Exactly. I wished I liked pot because it's natural and non-addictive. Alcohol is what should be banned, not pot. It's so much more dangerous.
Great article. I concur with what she said about knowing there's another side now because of her Mother's passing.
Maybe Lindsey rents the condo next door? If he bought it, that'd be so weird. Actually it's weird either way, isn't it? :lol:
The GDW dance gives her a sore back - that blows. But my back hurts from pulling weeds yesterday, so I think she's got it a little better than me.
I wish she'd stop saying how "really old" they all are though. I mean, I get that they probably feel aches and pains more at their age, but I wouldn't say they're really old. It kind of contradicts what they are presenting on stage.
Jamie
louielouie2000
01-14-2015, 03:44 PM
Not sure if people realize how major this is.
The only thing this proves to me is that Stevie has the most powerful publicist in the entertainment industry. Because if you look at this article, it's honestly total fluff. Stevie isn't promoting anything, isn't heralding any awards, and isn't making some sort of grand proclamation to the world. Gotta give Liz Rosenberg credit where it's due- she has pretty much single handedly changed Stevie's image over this past decade. Stevie is taken more seriously and is more relevant now than she ever was at the height of her career. :)
Jondalar
01-14-2015, 03:52 PM
The only thing this proves to me is that Stevie has the most powerful publicist in the entertainment industry. Because if you look at this article, it's honestly total fluff. Stevie isn't promoting anything, isn't heralding any awards, and isn't making some sort of grand proclamation to the world. Gotta give Liz Rosenberg credit where it's due- she has pretty much single handedly changed Stevie's image over this past decade. Stevie is taken more seriously and is more relevant now than she ever was at the height of her career. :)
So u are saying that this is not her achievement.... It's Liz all the way.
BigAl84
01-14-2015, 04:05 PM
So u are saying that this is not her achievement.... It's Liz all the way.
To be honest, it pretty much is Liz all the way. I'm glad for Stevie, don't get me wrong.
twinmatrix
01-14-2015, 04:07 PM
You can have somebody send you a copy to you.Or scan it and email the requested pages to you which it would be free.
I'm actually interested in buying a physical copy but I don't know where people do that? Is it a UK newsstand magazine or? I'm a bit confused. ^^ thanks~
wheart
01-14-2015, 04:21 PM
Love that she has a cover and she looks lovely, however, a small nitpick. The hat is new, but we've seen the chain mail gloves on stage so many times, and I would dearly love to see her in something other than that same old black cold-shoulder top. She's been making a lot of appearances out & about these past couple of years, but it seems like it is always that same uniform. However, despite all my moaning and groaning about fashion choices, I am truly happy she's getting such good exposure. Take note rest of the band: Having new product equals more promotion. Sure wish they could all get together and work on getting a group effort out.
I know. just something we haven't seen ever before, or at least not for a long time would have been awesome but apparently this is what Stevie feels good in these days. I'm just grateful for the hat - new and a departure from the standard top hat she's been wearing. And it's not black! I also think her hair looks amazing.
Lisa W
01-14-2015, 05:10 PM
The only thing this proves to me is that Stevie has the most powerful publicist in the entertainment industry. Because if you look at this article, it's honestly total fluff. Stevie isn't promoting anything, isn't heralding any awards, and isn't making some sort of grand proclamation to the world. Gotta give Liz Rosenberg credit where it's due- she has pretty much single handedly changed Stevie's image over this past decade. Stevie is taken more seriously and is more relevant now than she ever was at the height of her career. :)
I totally agree that Liz Rosenberg is the instrumental party and deserves significant credit for securing this cover article. However, isn't she also the Fleetwood Mac publicist? If so, that may be another reason for the internal band tension - regardless of whether or not FM has a product to promote.
gldstwmn
01-14-2015, 05:13 PM
So how young was the waiter that they couldn't be seen together in public? :lol:
Dreamz19
01-14-2015, 05:14 PM
I actually think this years version on tour is the best Gypsy has ever sounded live. I really love the "Hey baby!" high parts. I like this too. Her voice sounds great. I was worried she'd scream like in Lady.
I love the current tour version of Gypsy as well. One of the highlights of the night for me.
BlueDenimLamp
01-14-2015, 05:19 PM
So how young was the waiter that they couldn't be seen together in public? :lol:
The article says .
"In the late Nineties, she tries dating a younger, nonfamous dude - a waiter, in fact - but that didn’t work either. “I was 50 and he was 30, and he was a very old 30 - he had two little boys and was a very nice man,” she recalls, sitting on a maroon couch in her living room, where a vocal mic is still rigged up overhead. On the glass coffee table are her burn cream; a water-damaged copy of an Oscar Wilde anthology she’s had for decades, filled with her old underlinings; two unlit candles; a book about Jimi Hendrix; and a bowl decorated with the lyrics of “Landslide” - a gift from the Dixie Chicks. “And he really cared about me.” But she found the situation embarrassing and tried to keep him under wraps. “One day, he came home and said, “I got two tickets for Bill Maher, will you go with me?” and I’m like, ‘Are you insane!? No, I’m not going. I’m famous! I’m Stevie Nicks! Everybody’s gonna spend the whole time taking pictures of us. And I can’t keep on making excuses about why you can’t go anywhere I can go. Like, can I take you to the Grammys? No. Can I go the market with you? No. Can we go to a movie together in downtown Santa Monica? No. All we can do is stay in.”
twinmatrix
01-14-2015, 05:24 PM
I love the current tour version of Gypsy as well. One of the highlights of the night for me.
I can't help but burst out laughing when she waves her hand like the queen singing "heey heey heey". Not sure if that's a good or a bad thing. :D
BlueDenimLamp
01-14-2015, 05:28 PM
From the RS article.
When Nicks took care of a drunken and upset Vanessa Carlton one night, she told her, “That’s what mommies do for their babies” - and she flew to New York at the end of 2014 to be around for the due date of Carlton’s child.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Congrats Vanessa and John! Sidney Aoibheann Carlton-McCauley was born yesterday at 1:42pm, weighing in… <a href="http://t.co/6jPArreE87">http://t.co/6jPArreE87</a></p>— Vanessa Carlton (@VanessaCarlton) <a href="https://twitter.com/VanessaCarlton/status/555485697868824576">January 14, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Seems Vanessa was a little late in presenting Stevie with her newest God Daughter (one would imagine)
So that's why she was in NYC for new years.
twinmatrix
01-14-2015, 05:28 PM
The article says .
"In the late Nineties, she tries dating a younger, nonfamous dude - a waiter, in fact - but that didn’t work either. “I was 50 and he was 30, and he was a very old 30 - he had two little boys and was a very nice man,” she recalls, sitting on a maroon couch in her living room, where a vocal mic is still rigged up overhead. On the glass coffee table are her burn cream; a water-damaged copy of an Oscar Wilde anthology she’s had for decades, filled with her old underlinings; two unlit candles; a book about Jimi Hendrix; and a bowl decorated with the lyrics of “Landslide” - a gift from the Dixie Chicks. “And he really cared about me.” But she found the situation embarrassing and tried to keep him under wraps. “One day, he came home and said, “I got two tickets for Bill Maher, will you go with me?” and I’m like, ‘Are you insane!? No, I’m not going. I’m famous! I’m Stevie Nicks! Everybody’s gonna spend the whole time taking pictures of us. And I can’t keep on making excuses about why you can’t go anywhere I can go. Like, can I take you to the Grammys? No. Can I go the market with you? No. Can we go to a movie together in downtown Santa Monica? No. All we can do is stay in.”
Hey, if Madonna can take someone who is young enough to be her son, it's OK for Stevie to date someone who is late 30s. :nod:
sorcerer999
01-14-2015, 05:38 PM
So essentially, Stevie was telling this man, "I'm embarrassed to be seen in public with you." I bet that made him feel soooooooooo special.
Our girl has the strangest insecurities, doesn't she? I would have been showing off my "younger man" if I were in her position! Kathy Griffin's new boyfriend is 20 years younger and I think they are adorable together!
welcomechris
01-14-2015, 06:21 PM
Nothing wrong with that. Contrary to right wing propaganda, pot is neither addictive nor a "gateway drug".
I don't want stevie hurting herself, it's very unhealthy to smoke pot.
But looking on the brightside Stevie is Writing
Jondalar
01-14-2015, 06:39 PM
The only thing this proves to me is that Stevie has the most powerful publicist in the entertainment industry. Because if you look at this article, it's honestly total fluff. Stevie isn't promoting anything, isn't heralding any awards, and isn't making some sort of grand proclamation to the world. Gotta give Liz Rosenberg credit where it's due- she has pretty much single handedly changed Stevie's image over this past decade. Stevie is taken more seriously and is more relevant now than she ever was at the height of her career. :)
I think your wrong about that. Stevie has to do TV shows and interviews because she has no other outlet to promote her music. She could of been a media whore in the 1980s like Madonna but chose not to.
All Stevie's networking has paid off. People like Adam Levine, Jimmy Iovine, Sharon Osborne... want her on their shows because she played her cards right and she has the music to back it up. Liz may helped with Dancing with the Stars, but Stevie has done most of it.
PenguinHead
01-14-2015, 07:21 PM
Nothing wrong with that. Contrary to right wing propaganda, pot is neither addictive nor a "gateway drug".
I'm very surprised that she was, for the very first time ever, so direct about it. She has always been so forthright about cocaine, but always avoided mentioning pot. Since pot is becoming more mainstream, acceptable and legal, maybe she feels more comfortable with revealing that she uses it. But it's really no surprise. And it's far less dangerous and harmful than alcohol. I would love to hang with her and Bill Maher and some cannabis.
PenguinHead
01-14-2015, 07:58 PM
I think your wrong about that. Stevie has to do TV shows and interviews because she has no other outlet to promote her music. She could of been a media whore in the 1980s like Madonna but chose not to.
The only thing this article promoted was Stevie's rock status as a cultural icon. There was very little serious discussion regarding her new album. It's indirect musical promotion at best.
She had this opportunity to promote her new album. So what does she do? She gives us a bare-bones performance of a 33-year old Fleetwood Mac song. Is this kind of promotion doing her any commercial favors? Relying heavily on past artistic achievements seems to take precedent over establishing new ones. Fleetwood Mac is doing that now. Why not? Milking the legacy of their cash cow is easy. They need very little promotion to do that.
KarmaContestant
01-14-2015, 08:01 PM
So essentially, Stevie was telling this man, "I'm embarrassed to be seen in public with you." I bet that made him feel soooooooooo special.
Our girl has the strangest insecurities, doesn't she? I would have been showing off my "younger man" if I were in her position! Kathy Griffin's new boyfriend is 20 years younger and I think they are adorable together!
:laugh: Poor Stevie, cougars weren't 'in' yet in the nineties.
BlueDenimLamp
01-14-2015, 08:23 PM
She's not happy with the camera "Being right in her face" (like in the "IYD" doc where they go on about the camera "Being right in their faces") gives the camera guy a look and gives her head a little shake.http://youtu.be/4dSJQdDqv0s?t=1m26s
Danigirl
01-14-2015, 08:46 PM
She's not happy with the camera "Being right in her face" (like in the "IYD" doc where they go on about the camera "Being right in their faces") gives the camera guy a look and gives her head a little shake.http://youtu.be/4dSJQdDqv0s?t=1m26s
Ya! I noticed that too.
bombaysaffires
01-14-2015, 08:52 PM
The only thing this article promoted was Stevie's rock status as a cultural icon. There was very little serious discussion regarding her new album. It's indirect musical promotion at best.
She had this opportunity to promote her new album. So what does she do? She gives us a bare-bones performance of a 33-year old Fleetwood Mac song. Is this kind of promotion doing her any commercial favors? Relying heavily on past artistic achievements seems to take precedent over establishing new ones. Fleetwood Mac is doing that now. Why not? Milking the legacy of their cash cow is easy. They need very little promotion to do that.
yep. she's been working a lot the last several years to solidify her legacy and her place in the pantheon of timeless rock icons.
She once said in an interview (late 90s I think) that she always wanted to be a beloved character in the history books.
This is what she's working towards with all this personal publicity. Otherwise, PenguinHead is right-- she could have talked a LOT more about 24k and sung one of the songs from it. She could easily have done Lady in its demo form, but she didn't.
bombaysaffires
01-14-2015, 08:56 PM
So essentially, Stevie was telling this man, "I'm embarrassed to be seen in public with you." I bet that made him feel soooooooooo special.
Our girl has the strangest insecurities, doesn't she? I would have been showing off my "younger man" if I were in her position! Kathy Griffin's new boyfriend is 20 years younger and I think they are adorable together!
right?
she has no issue being seen out in public with other women's husbands…..or dragging around behind Tom Petty for whole tours…..
Honestly, I think she was more embarrassed because he was a WAITER than anything else. She's STEVIE NICKS doncha know…she should be with someone equally famous and rich. Boinking is one thing, but taking him to the GRAMMYs? Are you kidding? I'm Stevie Nicks, I'm famous!!! :distress:
BigAl84
01-14-2015, 09:29 PM
It's great to see Stevie on the cover, I love it. I'm just really disappointed in the article and Stevie. There really is next to zero new information. The funny bits are awesome, but they're just funny bits. Definitely not any insights as to her future ambitions with Fleetwood Mac. She's ok with the attention she's given from the Mac but also talks out the other side of her mouth as if it's a burden...something she just has to do (because she doesn't have the guts to just say it doesn't make her happy any more and leave, money still talks). Get real..an eight page interview that says what exactly?
It's a shame that Christine came back for all the right reasons and with ambition to make new music while Stevie is almost in the opposite direction. I don't think Christine has much to worry about in terms of being able to stay committed to Fleetwood Mac...sounds like to me she came back after 15 years for one really long greatest hits tour and that could potentially be about it. The joke is on Chris this time, sadly. How about "Stevie Nicks Looking Forward" for a change!? Everyone in this band has moved on with their lives, found some happiness and figured out how to work with each other but Stevie keeps beating the same drum from the past.
I don't mean to just single Stevie out. Hello Lindsey, you should know by now that the number one way to get under Stevie's skin is to not even recognize her brand new solo album. Give the girl a bone and say something nice. Mend some fences. You're a married man, have you learned anything? They're both nearly 70 years old and still pushing the same buttons. Unbelievable.
From this article it sounds like as much as she likes being on stage with Christine, she'll be ready to shelve Fleetwood Mac for quite a while after this tour is over. How can they even begin to make a record if they can't even talk to each other and have assistants running messages between them. It's absurd and really sad. Sorry for the rant.
mitzo
01-14-2015, 09:29 PM
The only thing this article promoted was Stevie's rock status as a cultural icon. There was very little serious discussion regarding her new album. It's indirect musical promotion at best.
She had this opportunity to promote her new album. So what does she do? She gives us a bare-bones performance of a 33-year old Fleetwood Mac song. Is this kind of promotion doing her any commercial favors? Relying heavily on past artistic achievements seems to take precedent over establishing new ones. Fleetwood Mac is doing that now. Why not? Milking the legacy of their cash cow is easy. They need very little promotion to do that.
This is correct. I am puzzled and frankly a bit disappointed that 24KG was not front and centre in this piece. And that she chose to growl her way through Gypsy while plunking badly on a piano rather than performing something new .... with a band, or at least, an accompanist who can actually play piano.
teedeerocks
01-14-2015, 10:31 PM
What does self- obsessed in a good way mean?Maybe that Stevie is obsessed with maintaining her status and not going to the wayside? Also,That was very mature of Bucky to cause a stink about her music volume just in time to interrupt her Rolling Stone interview that he is not involved with:rolleyes:Some boys will be boys...
BlueDenimLamp
01-14-2015, 10:58 PM
What does self- obsessed in a good way mean?Maybe that Stevie is obsessed with maintaining her status and not going to the wayside? Also,That was very mature of Bucky to cause a stink about her music volume just in time to interrupt her Rolling Stone interview that he is not involved with:rolleyes:Some boys will be boys...
There’s more tension than usual in the Mac tonight, largely because Stevie agreed to be on the cover of ROLLING STONE by herself in the middle of their tour. (“I told her, ‘I’m so proud of you,’” says guitarist Waddy Wachtel, an old friend of Nicks,“and “Oh, boy, they’re going to be pissed off!) When Mick Fleetwood stops by Nicks’ dressing room to get his own makeup done, he shakes my hand, says hello and then pointedly ignores me for the rest of the night.
Mick ignored her the rest of the night...I wonder why?
Perhaps this (Rolling Stone) is in some way Stevie's response to Mick & LB's antics towards Stevie in the press since CM's return.
teedeerocks
01-14-2015, 11:27 PM
right?
she has no issue being seen out in public with other women's husbands…..or dragging around behind Tom Petty for whole tours…..
Honestly, I think she was more embarrassed because he was a WAITER than anything else. She's STEVIE NICKS doncha know…she should be with someone equally famous and rich. Boinking is one thing, but taking him to the GRAMMYs? Are you kidding? I'm Stevie Nicks, I'm famous!!! :distress:
You nailed it baby(I say half sadly) because I thought that(even though I have posted that I don't like her personality as of late)she had more integrity as a human being than that.Also notice she says that he really cared about her and not that she cared about him or they cared about each other:shrug:It must have been "wham bam thank you man" for her.Also.when she talked about that doctor and referred to him as Dr.___head,do you think she said d**k or s**t?
MikeInNV
01-14-2015, 11:43 PM
There’s more tension than usual in the Mac tonight, largely because Stevie agreed to be on the cover of ROLLING STONE by herself in the middle of their tour. (“I told her, ‘I’m so proud of you,’” says guitarist Waddy Wachtel, an old friend of Nicks,“and “Oh, boy, they’re going to be pissed off!) When Mick Fleetwood stops by Nicks’ dressing room to get his own makeup done, he shakes my hand, says hello and then pointedly ignores me for the rest of the night.
Mick ignored her the rest of the night...I wonder why?
Perhaps this (Rolling Stone) is in some way Stevie's response to Mick & LB's antics towards Stevie in the press since CM's return.
Mick ignored the journalist, not Stevie.
PenguinHead
01-15-2015, 12:52 AM
Mick ignored the journalist, not Stevie.
A case of finding drama where there is none. No doubt there is sometimes tension and irritation among the egos, but they are not emotionally thin-skinned juveniles. Dealing with Stevie's solo career is nothing new for Fleetwood Mac.
teedeerocks
01-15-2015, 01:03 AM
She's not happy with the camera "Being right in her face" (like in the "IYD" doc where they go on about the camera "Being right in their faces") gives the camera guy a look and gives her head a little shake.http://youtu.be/4dSJQdDqv0s?t=1m26s
I wouldn't have noticed that if you hadn't pointed it out.I didn't make the connection-I thought she conjoured something up in her mind related to the song(in the moment).Good eye Blue Denim!:thumbsup:
teedeerocks
01-15-2015, 01:10 AM
I wouldn't have noticed that if you hadn't pointed it out.I didn't make the connection-I thought she conjoured something up in her mind related to the song(in the moment).Good eye Blue Denim!:thumbsup:
Late thought:Maybe the camera guy is the 30 yo ex boyfriend trying to get some revenge on Mama:D
gypsyhelena
01-15-2015, 01:14 AM
The lighting makes her look really beautiful- I wonder whether it was orchestrated by Ms Nicks herself? I can just imagine her commanding the shoot assistants in the exact placement of each and every lamp involved in order to achieve maximum prettiness, and an atmosphere that's mysterious and ever so slightly witchy, yet still inviting :lol:
Tango
01-15-2015, 01:17 AM
The article says .
"In the late Nineties, she tries dating a younger, nonfamous dude - a waiter, in fact - but that didn’t work either. “I was 50 and he was 30, and he was a very old 30- he had two little boys and was a very nice man,” she recalls, sitting on a maroon couch in her living room, where a vocal mic is still rigged up overhead. On the glass coffee table are her burn cream; a water-damaged copy of an Oscar Wilde anthology she’s had for decades, filled with her old underlinings; two unlit candles; a book about Jimi Hendrix; and a bowl decorated with the lyrics of “Landslide” - a gift from the Dixie Chicks. “And he really cared about me.” But she found the situation embarrassing and tried to keep him under wraps. “One day, he came home and said, “I got two tickets for Bill Maher, will you go with me?” and I’m like, ‘Are you insane!? No, I’m not going. I’m famous! I’m Stevie Nicks! Everybody’s gonna spend the whole time taking pictures of us. And I can’t keep on making excuses about why you can’t go anywhere I can go. Like, can I take you to the Grammys? No. Can I go the market with you? No. Can we go to a movie together in downtown Santa Monica? No. All we can do is stay in.”
It's hard to read between the lines--hearing Stevie vs reading the print makes me wonder if Stevie SAID those comments to the "very nice man" or if she THOUGHT those comments, and expressed it differently. I tend to think she was saying the latter, but I'd have to ask her. ;) Nonetheless, I'm happy that Rolling Stone still sees Stevie relevant enough to grace the cover of their magazine! Congrats Stevie!
nicole21290
01-15-2015, 01:28 AM
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teedeerocks
01-15-2015, 01:58 AM
The lighting makes her look really beautiful- I wonder whether it was orchestrated by Ms Nicks herself? I can just imagine her commanding the shoot assistants in the exact placement of each and every lamp involved in order to achieve maximum prettiness, and an atmosphere that's mysterious and ever so slightly witchy, yet still inviting :lol:
I bet you're not far from the truth.In her 2013 interview about making the IYD doc she said she told DS that if his filming made her look like an "old hag " it was OUT.She said he could make her look interesting as long as she looked good.Also she made sure he knew which angles to shoot her from:rolleyes:Deep down inside,I believe she is a very insecure and frightened lady:("You can't see her soul unless she lets you see her soul"
twinmatrix
01-15-2015, 05:01 AM
I'm very surprised that she was, for the very first time ever, so direct about it. She has always been so forthright about cocaine, but always avoided mentioning pot. Since pot is becoming more mainstream, acceptable and legal, maybe she feels more comfortable with revealing that she uses it. But it's really no surprise. And it's far less dangerous and harmful than alcohol. I would love to hang with her and Bill Maher and some cannabis.
Ehh, contrary to popular belief, weed is actually damaging, CAN be addictive and harmful, just like alcohol. You can even overdose on weed quite easily by smoking too much in little time, mixing hasj with weed, eating spacecake while smoking, etc. My friend passed out in a club because he ate spacecake after smoking, he could've gotten seriously hurt. You can also get convulsions (happened to me), time skipping, unable to walk, etc. Although yes, alcohol is worse. But weed is not as "harmless" as people make it out to be. I've known several people actually addicted to weed and it destroys their lunges, lives and personality. And it might not be a "gateway" drug like meph, but of course if you have contacts with cannabis it does make it easier to try other, harder drugs. Plus smoking weed usually goes with cigarette smoking as well because the combination feels freaking great, which is extremely damaging too.
However, yes, it's by far the most "harmless" drug (excluding diazepam etc.), but it bugs me just a little bit when people claim it's "harmless". I don't want someone to try smoking weed because they read it's "harmless".
Source: Born & raised in the Netherlands and was involved in the hard drug scene when living in London.
welcomechris
01-15-2015, 06:25 AM
Gypsy already has 27 thousand views
MoonSister75
01-15-2015, 07:40 AM
Nothing wrong with that. Contrary to right wing propaganda, pot is neither addictive nor a "gateway drug".
For me, it was both of these things :shrug:
Ehh, contrary to popular belief, weed is actually damaging, CAN be addictive and harmful, just like alcohol. You can even overdose on weed quite easily by smoking too much in little time, mixing hasj with weed, eating spacecake while smoking, etc. My friend passed out in a club because he ate spacecake after smoking, he could've gotten seriously hurt. You can also get convulsions (happened to me), time skipping, unable to walk, etc. Although yes, alcohol is worse. But weed is not as "harmless" as people make it out to be. I've known several people actually addicted to weed and it destroys their lunges, lives and personality. And it might not be a "gateway" drug like meph, but of course if you have contacts with cannabis it does make it easier to try other, harder drugs. Plus smoking weed usually goes with cigarette smoking as well because the combination feels freaking great, which is extremely damaging too.
However, yes, it's by far the most "harmless" drug (excluding diazepam etc.), but it bugs me just a little bit when people claim it's "harmless". I don't want someone to try smoking weed because they read it's "harmless".
Source: Born & raised in the Netherlands and was involved in the hard drug scene when living in London.
I'd agree with you that cannabis shouldn't be considered totally safe. Some people don't have a problem with it, but others really do. I found it to be more detrimental to my state of mind, and more addictive (on a daily basis) than other recreational drugs.
twinmatrix
01-15-2015, 08:06 AM
^
Yeah, it totally depends on the individual.
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I shouldn't discuss drugs on a forum, sorry.
She looks fabulous in both photos and especially slim.
Touring obviously suits her.
Danielle
01-15-2015, 08:17 AM
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Thank you Nicole! She looks so youthful.
Aussie W/Heart
01-15-2015, 09:38 AM
I often wondered if our little rockin roll hippie still enjoyed a toke or 2, i liked to think she did anyway ;) Pretty cool she openly admitted it though. Anyway she is not a BIG pothead, like smoking all day everyday kinda thing.. Stevie is just a casual pot smoker by the sounds of it, like she said mainly to enhance her creativity and to chill out.. Nothing wrong with that!!
I loved reading the whole RS article, the cover shot is stunning :thumbsup:
Richard B
01-15-2015, 10:32 AM
I often wondered if our little rockin roll hippie still enjoyed a toke or 2, i liked to think she did anyway ;) Pretty cool she openly admitted it though. Anyway she is not a BIG pothead, like smoking all day everyday kinda thing.. Stevie is just a casual pot smoker by the sounds of it, like she said mainly to enhance her creativity and to chill out.. Nothing wrong with that!!
I always thought Lindsey was the big pothead. Also, I even wonder if she actually smokes it anymore. There are more advanced, better ways to use weed besides old school smoking. So maybe she vapes when necessary. Edibles too maybe?
aleuzzi
01-15-2015, 10:34 AM
Tom Petty's anecdote about Christine approaching him to suggest to Stevie a musical change is revealing. This tells me three things: that the band is not as close with her as she is with people outside of the band (the point made in the article); that Stevie does not react well to musical critique or advice; and that the band is, to some degree, wary of offending her.
Speaking of Christine, I thought she came off magnificently in the article. Very classy gal, that one.
Danigirl
01-15-2015, 11:45 AM
Ehh, contrary to popular belief, weed is actually damaging, CAN be addictive and harmful, just like alcohol. You can even overdose on weed quite easily by smoking too much in little time, mixing hasj with weed, eating spacecake while smoking, etc. My friend passed out in a club because he ate spacecake after smoking, he could've gotten seriously hurt. You can also get convulsions (happened to me), time skipping, unable to walk, etc. Although yes, alcohol is worse. But weed is not as "harmless" as people make it out to be. I've known several people actually addicted to weed and it destroys their lunges, lives and personality. And it might not be a "gateway" drug like meph, but of course if you have contacts with cannabis it does make it easier to try other, harder drugs. Plus smoking weed usually goes with cigarette smoking as well because the combination feels freaking great, which is extremely damaging too.
However, yes, it's by far the most "harmless" drug (excluding diazepam etc.), but it bugs me just a little bit when people claim it's "harmless". I don't want someone to try smoking weed because they read it's "harmless".
Source: Born & raised in the Netherlands and was involved in the hard drug scene when living in London.
Very interesting post! I really like getting a first hand opinion on this from someone who has been there done that.
Everything has the power to become harmful. Sex, food, porn, legal medications, Internet, coffee, pretty much anything can be abused. Cannabis is just grouped into the category 1 drugs here in the US, therefore it is slammed by those who are ignorant to its benefits and inclined to beleive the drawbacks outweigh those benefits. The truth of the matter is nothing is harmless, everything can be abused. Whether one does end up abusing cannabis depends on a plethora of factors unrelated to the chemical makeup of the substance. Cannabis is addictive, psychologically addictive, which varies considerably to the other forms of addiction.
bombaysaffires
01-15-2015, 03:36 PM
Tom Petty's anecdote about Christine approaching him to suggest to Stevie a musical change is revealing. This tells me three things: that the band is not as close with her as she is with people outside of the band (the point made in the article); that Stevie does not react well to musical critique or advice; and that the band is, to some degree, wary of offending her.
Speaking of Christine, I thought she came off magnificently in the article. Very classy gal, that one.
^ All of this.
BlueDenimLamp
01-15-2015, 04:26 PM
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Look! More goodies from Rolling Stone.
Roy Bittan.
"I go way back with Jimmy Iovine. He was the assistant engineer on Born to Run, and we developed a friendship and always had a real musical affinity. When he branched out into the production world he'd occasionally call me up to work on something. He needed someone to fill some gaps on Stevie's record Bella Donna and really interpret her songs. I hopped on a plane for L.A. and immediately started to run a fever, about 101 degrees. I was delirious when we began recording, but sometimes when you don't quite feel 100 percent your artistic guard is down.
"We recorded live at first, with Russ Kunkel, Waddy Wachtel, Benmont Tench and Bob Blaub. Stevie called it hear 'Dream Band.' The first one we did was "Edge of Seventeen." We did the whole album in a matter of two or three days, playing live first and overdubbing later. She's the only artist I toured with other than Bruce. She asked me to go on the road, and I had some time off – I couldn't pass up the opportunity. It gave me a chance to reinterpret some of the Fleetwood Mac stuff. We began 'Rhiannon' real slow, almost a classical version of it. Then after the first verse the whole band would kick in. It was a fantastic experience."
Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/roy-bittan-e-street-band-side-projects-20150115#ixzz3OvZIcnBG
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teedeerocks
01-15-2015, 06:55 PM
I always thought Lindsey was the big pothead. Also, I even wonder if she actually smokes it anymore. There are more advanced, better ways to use weed besides old school smoking. So maybe she vapes when necessary. Edibles too maybe?
She is old school:cool:
BlueDenimLamp
01-15-2015, 07:08 PM
I always thought Lindsey was the big pothead. Also, I even wonder if she actually smokes it anymore. There are more advanced, better ways to use weed besides old school smoking. So maybe she vapes when necessary. Edibles too maybe?
An excerpt from a Waddy Wachtel interview.
Waddy No, Keith . . . he had met them, and he brought them down to make a record. And so we were working at a studio called "Sound City." And that's where I was doing my stuff— and that's where we did the Buckingham Nicks record. And we became very tight friends, you know. Stevie was very innocent at that point. And Lindsey and I were addicted to the music. And Lindsey . . . he had like a four track tape machine— Ampex tape machine. And they made some great demos, and so we went in the studio and we recorded their album. And from then on, the three of us were always together basically. I was always at their house. We were sitting around on the floor, smoking hash.
blackcat Mick [Fleetwood] talks about that in his book! I figured you were one of the people that Stevie was stepping over, when she'd come home from work.
Waddy Very very very possible, yes. (laughing)
blackcat She said, ah . . .everyone would be kind of sick, laying around. And she said something like, "That's because you're all laying around, smoking hash, while I'm out working all day."
Waddy (laughing) That's right. That's right!
teedeerocks
01-15-2015, 07:18 PM
With thanks to Alicia Bailey, whose scans allowed me to do this transcript just now...
http://buckingham-nicks.boards.net/thread/28/sn-rolling-stone-january-2015
Magic & Loss
Maker of myths, wearer of shawls: for Stevie Nicks, nothing - and everything - has changed.
By Brian Hiatt
Stevie Nicks got to sleep at home last night for once, her skinny, half-blind, half-hairless 16-year-old dog, Sulamith, snuggling at her feet, in a four-poster bed too tall for either of them. “I have to take, like, a running jump to get up there,” says Nicks, who, for all the potency of her presence, is five feet one without heels. She lives in an oceanside condo in Santa Monica, a “space pad” with floor-to-ceiling views of half of Los Angeles County. Her bedroom décor is spare: a Buddha statue on the polished hardwood floor, a vintage globe on a stand, a white stuffed rabbit perched on some pillows, a modest flatscreen, a rack of stage clothes in the corner that serves as the only reminder that she’s actually still on tour. Nicks made it back from a Fleetwood Mac show at the Forum around four in the morning, managing six and a half hours of sleep. She has another concert tonight, with no day off in between. Her back hurts. ‘We’re tired,” Nicks says, brightly, “because we’re very old.”
Today’s show is an Anaheim arena, an hour from home. Nicks, her long blond hair wrapped in yellow, blue and purple plastic curlers, has flopped onto a well-worn black leather massage chair, feet up, at the rear of her backstage dressing room. It’s early December, and the sun is setting in pastels among the palm trees outside. There are only a couple of hours left before Nicks has to be back onstage in her black corset and skirt, harmonizing once more on “The Chain” with a guy she dumped during the Ford administration.
The ex in question, Lindsey Buckingham, is a formidable frontman, a virtuosic guitar innovator, an obsessive studio genius à la Brian Wilson, a snappy dresser with first-class cheekbones. He would be the undisputed star of almost any other band. But Buckingham had the mixed fortune to join Fleetwood Mac with his beautiful girlfriend, an intuitive, mystical, prolific composer (she used to write a song a day) with a hoarse, trilling miracle of a voice and an unearthly, shamanic stage manner - a maker of myths, a wearer of shawls, a genre unto herself, a woman taken by the sky.
At the moment, Nicks is wearing black legging, fuzzy UGG-like black boots, and a selection form what may be the world’s leading leading collection of diaphanous black tops. She is gurgling scales along with a recording of her vocal coach while flipping through a new memoir by Janis Joplin’s road manager. “Look,” Nicks says, perking up. “I knew Janis wore sling-back heels.” Joplin was a formative influence, but Nicks has found a different, frillier balance between toughness and vulnerability. “I think Janis was not as comfortable with herself as a woman,” says Nicks’ close friend, singer-songwriter Vanessa Carlton (who had Nicks conduct her wedding). “But Stevie understands how much power there is in the feminine, and she’s not afraid of it.”
“Stevie is strong-willed,” says Heartbreakers guitarist Mike Campbell, a longtime friend and collaborator, “and at the same time, she’s vulnerable and fragile. And that’s a really great combination. She became this icon for girls - and probably most guys in the Seventies wished they had a girlfriend like Stevie Nicks.”
Nicks stands and plugs her iPod into her road-case-enclosed stereo, via a cord with a cute furry covering. “I have so many playlists,” she says. She selects one that kicks off with a deep cut from Aretha Franklin’s Who’s Zoomin’ Who. Nicks heads over to her makeup table, beside a klieg light, and points out a framed black-and-white picture by the mirror, in which a bright-eyed little girl stares down the camera with a defiant smirk. “This is me in third grade,” she says, “right before getting kicked out of Catholic School.” (In fact, she explains later, her parents let her quit, thought she clearly prefers the version where she’s expelled.)
The dressing room is more utilitarian than vibe-y, which seems rather un-Stevie: no candles, no drapes, no incense, just a dog bed for Sulamith, a Yorkie-Chinese Crested mix who truly fits into the “tired because she’s old” category. While Sulamith rests, Mana, a younger, more energetic little dog, does laps around the room, offering a rubber frog to visitors. Mana belongs to Karen Johnston, an unflappably loyal and good-humored brunette who’s been Nicks’ assistant for the past 26 years (Nicks treats that as an semi-official title, as in “This is Karen, my assistant of 26 years”). Johnston is also in all black and wears a helpful lint brush on her belt.
There are a couple of other pictures leaning against Nicks’ makeup mirror, each meant to inspire. One, taken in the late seventies, shows a pigtailed Nicks writing a never-to-be-released song with a tan, shirtless, hunky-looking George Harrison. The other is recent shot of a beaming Nicks posing with a veteran from the war in Iraq. Pfc. Vincent Mannion, one of the many injured servicemen she’s befriended during her visits to the Walter Reed hospital. When they first met, Mannion wasn’t expected to survive, but now he’s doing fine.
Nicks is, in her own way, also a survivor. She endured two rehab stints for two life-threatening addictions in two different decades; lost her best friend, Robin, to leukemia, which so rattled Nicks that she briefly married Robin’s widower in hopes of raising their child; faced numerous other deaths and illnesses around her, including the recent passing of her mother, and an 18-year-old godson from an overdose; and came to terms with the apparent inability of any man to live in the shadow of her career, leaving her to “depend on her music like a husband,” as she once sang.
Nicks made it through all of that and more to find herself, at age 66, an idol among millennials, and not just the women. Harry Styles went to two Forum shows in a row, paying homage to Nicks backstage. The latter-day L.A. band Haim unabashedly worship her, and Nicks reciprocates, hoping to work with them. “You can’t help but be in awe of her presence,” says Alana Haim. “She’s the most powerful person I’ve ever seen onstage.” Generational arbiter Tavi Gevinson, 18, declared, in her TED Talk, that “the lesson of all of this is just to be Stevie Nicks…because my favorite thing about her - other than, like everything - is that she has always been unapologetic about her flaws.” Indie-pop singer Sky Ferreira got her record deal partly on the strength of a “Stand Back” cover. “I’m heavily influenced by her,” Ferreira says. “And if other people are influenced by her, thank God, because that means there’s going to be better music.”
Next on the playlist is Nelly Furtado’s “Maneater”, thumping at an impressive volume. Nicks breaks into a funky, arm-waving dance from her makeup chair. Wincing slightly, she calls out to Johnston, ‘We don’t have an ice pack here do we? Because I need it.”
But her assistant had just been called out of the room on other business. “Um, Stevie?” Johnston says. “Lindsey has requested that we turn the music down.”
Nicks rolls her eyes, her expression matching the little girl’s the photograph. “OK, maybe we should go into a different tape, since he’s next door,” she says. “We can go with something that doesn’t have quite that much bang. All he’s probably hearing is the drum, like in a car. This is the first time he’s ever been next door to us. That can never happen again!”
She switches to a new playlist of singer-songwriters (Jackson Browne, Sting) and Lite FM-ish dude rock (Goo Goo Dolls, The Fray). Nicks has no fear of the uncool; She invited Kenny G to play on one of her albums, composes lyrics while listening to a New Age station on satellite radio and devoured the Twilight books by firelight, even writing a song inspired by Bella’s plight.
Nicks keeps adding her own perfect harmonies to the song on her playlist, rendering the chorus of “How to Save a Life” suddenly haunting (she thinks it’s about visiting a friend in rehab). “I never sing along to the melody,” she says. “I always go for the harmony. And that’s been since I was really little, because my granddad was a singer, and he would bring me 45s and he’d say, “You’re a harmony singer. You’re a perfect Everly Brother.” Her grandfather, A.J. Nicks, was a semipro country performer who wanted to take her on tour when she was five; her parents demurred.
After a few minutes, we hear pounding on the wall. The music still isn’t low enough. “Relations with Lindsey are exactly as they have been since we broke up,” says Nicks. “He and I will always be anatagonizing to each other, and we will always do things that will irritate each other, and we really know how to push each other’s buttons. We know exactly what to say when we really want to throw a dagger in. And I think that that’s not different now than it was when we were 20. And I don’t think it will be different when we’re 80.”
During tonight’s show, Nicks will sneeze in Buckingham’s face, possible giving him a cold she may be getting. It’s an accident, thought she can’t help giggling when she tells the story. There’s more tension than usual in the Mac tonight, largely because Stevie agreed to be on the cover of ROLLING STONE by herself in the middle of their tour. (“I told her, ‘I’m so proud of you,’” says guitarist Waddy Wachtel, an old friend of Nicks, “and “Oh, boy, they’re going to be pissed off!”) When Mick Fleetwood stops by Nicks’ dressing room to get his own makeup done, he shakes my hand, says hello and then pointedly ignores me for the rest of the night.
There are two members of Fleetwood Mac Stevie Nicks has never argued or had sex with: Christine McVie and her ex-husband John. The band’s lineup was highly unstable following its formation in 1967 as a blues act, in part because the band’s guitarists had a bad habit of going insane and/or joining cults. By the time Nicks and Buckingham came aboard, in 1975, founding members Fleetwood and John McVie had been joined by Christine, then John’s wife. Their only audition was nonmusical: Everyone wanted to make sure the two women would get along, which they did. McVie’s McCartney-like sense of melody had girded some of the band’s biggest hits, but she and Nicks were never competitive, mostly because they were so different. McVie’s aesthetic is more leather than lace, and she’s happily tethered to her keyboard onstage. She’s not a twirler.
“I’m a tomboy,” says McVie. “I love men. I love hanging around with men. And Stevie is kind of a girly girl.” (Another sign of their bond; McVie is also the only non-Stevie member of the Mac who agreed to talk for this story.). “Stevie is very direct, very honest, very self-obsessed in a way. And I don’t mean that in a bad way. She has her brand, you know? She’s an icon. She’s a genius. She’s a lovely, kind, beautiful woman, and I love her to death.”
Their friendship was cemented on the Rumours tour, as McVie and Nicks simultaneously weathered their intra-band breakups. “We would always try to have rooms right next door to each other,” recalls Nicks, “so we could sit on the floor and watch TV and talk, and not have any idea where Mick, Lindsey and John were, and not care. If we went to the hotel bar, the three guys would all be down there, and there would be all the chicks, and the two guys who didn’t really want to break up, and that wouldn’t go down well at all.”
When McVie left the band in 1997 to live a quiet life in the English countryside, “it was very hard for me”, says Nicks. “It became very much the boys’ club, a lot of testosterone.” But McVie unexpectedly un-retired this year, and her re-entry into the band has made Fleetwood Mac this season’s hottest classic-rock ticket, despite the fact that they played many of the same venues on their 2013 tour. “It’s as if those years never existed,” says McVie. “I’m going, ‘What the hell did I do for 15 years?’”
Nicks quit Fleetwood Mac once, in 1991 - but they reunited at Bill Clinton’s first inauguration, and then for good in 1997. She could have easily quit as early as 1981, when her first solo album, Bella Donna, was a smash, far outselling the Mac’s then-most-recent LP, Tusk. And it’s not like she hasn’t been tempted. Part of her has always wanted to run away from the machine, to just be an artist, to live by the beach and write. “There are all the little things,” Nicks says, “and the big things that I’ve always wanted to do but have always been on the back burner. But we choose to stay. Because we can’t do anything else. None of us are ever going to stand up and say, ‘I’m going to make my own choice for the first time in my life, and I’m going away, and I don’t know if I’m coming back.’”
When Nicks first began work on Bella Donna with producer Jimmy Iovine, who would become her boyfriend for a bit, she faced skepticism. “Believe it or not,” says Iovine, “people told me that no one could bear to listen to her on more than three songs on a record. Which sounded nuts.” Nicks has since released a total of eight solo albums, three more than Fleetwood Mac have managed since her solo career began. She rushed to record her most recent solo LP, 24 Karat Gold: Songs From The Vault, drawing from long-unrealized demos, in the mere nine weeks she had to spare before this tour (“She was saying, “You know, I’m not getting any younger,” says her producer Dave Stewart, “and I wanna put there down!”). “That was me listening to my own voice,” she says.
Despite her Eighties flirtation with pop stardom, Nicks is, as her friend and occasional duet partner Tom Petty puts it, “a true rock & roll chick, in the best way.” A rock singer needs a band, as Nicks noted when she saw Jefferson Airplane in the late Sixties. “Jefferson Airplane was a huge band, and Grace was definitely part of that band,” says Nicks. “It wasn’t Grace Slick and the Jefferson Airplane, it was the Jefferson Airplane. I liked that.”
Sometimes, though, Nicks could seem half-in, half-out. Petty was once hanging out at a Fleetwood Mac recording session when Christine McVie asked him to suggest a musical change to Nicks. “So I said, “Well, why don’t you just ask her,’” says Petty. “And she goes, ‘Oh, you know her so much better than we do,’ and I thought, ‘That’s strange.’”
Truth is, there was one offer that might have gotten Nicks to leave: “Had Tom Petty called me up one day and said, ‘If you want to leave Fleetwood Mac to be in the Heartbreakers, there’s a place for you’, I very well might have done it. Anytime. Today! Because it’s my favorite band.” For years, Petty told her that the Heartbreakers had a “no girls allowed” rule, but he recently gave her a platinum sheriff’s badge with the engraving, TO THE ONLY GIRL IN THE HEARTBREAKERS.
“Stevie and Lindsey both made really good records on their own, but when we all get excited is when they get together,” says Petty. “As with a lot of bands, when they realize that they’re gonna have to spend their lives together, they get a little grumpy with each other, because they know they’re joined at the hip.”
McVie’s songs are highlights on the current tour; In the row in front of me at one L.A. show, Red Hot Chilli Peppers drummer Chad Smith goes nuts when they play the MOR classic “Little Lies”. But the show’s core spectacle is still Nicks and Buckingham excavating and re-excavating their ancient romantic grievances. Whatever goes on up there - and it is reliably veers between spite (“Go Your Own Way”) and helpless affection (they do a hand-holding bit on “Landslide”) - Nicks insists that they never fake it, that it’s never just a Wild West show re-enactment of Seventies boomer dysfunction. (Relations did get so distant on their 2009 tour, however, that they mostly ignored each other onstage.) “You can go onstage and have a bit of a love affair,” Nicks says, “and when you go back to your separate dressing rooms, it’s over. But while you’re on the stage, it’s real. And if it isn’t real, people would really know it.”
Nicks stares herself down in a magnifying mirror, penciling a dramatic line just below her orbital ridge, as the playlist shifts to Jackson Browne’s “Somebody’s Baby”. She always does this part of her look herself, despite the presence of her longtime makeup artist. “It’s like an old movie star,” she says, perfecting the line. “You’re really creating an eyelid. It’s also Greta Garbo makeup, and Marlene Dietrich makeup. And that’s why, with these kind of eyes, you can never, ever do Botox.” She grabs her forehead just above her eyebrows. “Because it will drop this down and you will look like a freak. I did it once, and it was so awful for, like, four months. So you don’t look like yourself. You look like some relative that nobody spoke to. You see people my age that just look ghastly. Ghastly! You just want to go, “Really, stay in your house for four months! Don’t come out.””
Nicks has been doing her own eyes in this exact style since high school in the early Sixties, when she was a notably good girl (“If you were going out with somebody, you went to a movie and you came home and parked in the driveway, and you made out in a very not-a-big-deal way, and then you came in”). She wrote her first song, the break-up opus “I’ve Loved and I’ve Lost,” at age 16. Her mother, who worked until her husband’s success brought social pressure to stay home, encouraged independence: “You will go to school,” Nicks recalls being told, “and you will be independent, and you will never be dependent on a man. And you will have a really good education, and you will be able to stand in a room with a bunch of very smart men and keep up with them and never feel like a second-class citizen.”
Nicks grew up upper-middle class in Arizona, California, Texas, New Mexico and Utah, moving constantly, thanks to her father’s burgeoning career as a corporate executive - he eventually became president of Greyhound’s Armours-Dial. She went to two different high schools, first in an L.A. suburb and then in what is now Silicon Valley. At a youth-group social near the latter school, she met a gorgeous young guy named Lindsey, a year younger than her, harmonized with him on “California Dreamin’”, and thought nothing more of it until his band, Fritz, reached out with an offer to join. She accepted and was soon commuting to San Francisco from college in San Jose to open for the likes of Janis Joplin and the Airplane. Nicks immediately got more attention than her male bandmates, to their displeasure. “We were being booked like crazy,” she recalls. “But they’d all say, “We want to book the band with the blondy brown-haired girl.”
After a few years, producers took Buckingham and Nicks aside to let them know that they’d have a better chance as a duo. They dumped Fritz, spent a year demo’ing at Buckingham’s father’s coffee plant, and then moved to L.A. As Nicks recalls, there was something sexy in the shared betrayal. “It was like, ‘Well, we’ve done it now,’” she says. “‘We’ve completely screwed up their lives forever now. So why not?’ So we became a couple. And from the very beginning Lindsey was very controlling and very possessive. And after hearing all of the stories from my mother and how independent she was and how independent she made me, I was never very good with possessive people or with controlling people.”
They made a solid album together, Buckingham Nicks (with a topless cover that mortified Nicks), but it flopped. By the time Mick Fleetwood heard the demos for their second album and offered them slots in his band, Nicks was working as a waitress as a restaurant called Clementine’s, driving a car that couldn’t go in reverse. They had nearly broken up under the stress, with Nicks briefly moving out of their apartment. As Fleetwood Mac members, they were immediately put on salary, and Nicks decided she was rich and would be so forever. “I said, ‘That’s it. I’ve never looking at another price tag,’” she says, laughing. “And I meant it.” Their 1975 debut with Fleetwood Mac, which included both “Rhiannon” and “Landslide”, instantly redefined the band. For a while, they were happy. “How could you not be happy? You were going with a drop-dead-gorgeous man who sang like an angel, and the world was yours, and you were in a band that was already somewhat famous in Europe. I mean, things were looking up.”
But in 1976, after spending months helping each other record songs for Rumours about their troubled relationship, Buckingham and Nicks had a final fight. “I’m done”, she told him, though she vaguely remembers a few drunken lapses in the months that followed. Somehow, the band kept on, and Buckingham kept arranging and producing Nicks’ songs. “Lindsey has this phenomenal understanding of what Stevie means on her demos,” says McVie. “And I don’t. She comes to me with a song and I go, ‘I don’t know what the **** you mean.’”
Recording 1979’s Tusk was stressful. Nicks was carrying on an affair with the married Fleetwood and didn’t really understand Buckingham’s studio experimentation. At the same time, the band’s drug use was escalating. “That really didn’t help out irritability levels,” says Nicks. “If you’re not happy with someone, then just go do some coke and see how much unhappier you can be. But you think that crap is helping you, so you do it because you think you’re getting better. You think you’re, like, immortal, like you’re just going to live forever, when you’re doing coke in the beginning.”
Buckingham behaved badly on the Tusk tour, mocking Nicks’ shawl-dancing in front of a crowd, kicking her onstage, and even, as Nicks and McVie recall, throwing a Les Paul at Nicks’ head during the show. (“I’m not sure that happened,” Buckingham has said.”). That night, McVie slapped him, and Nicks was “ready to kick his ass.” “It was a very difficult thing for me to have had Stevie break up with me and still be in a band with her,” Buckingham told me in 2013, “and to have to produce her and in a sense be a [art of this engine that was helping her move even further away from me - to never get the closure you get when breaking up with someone by not seeing them. Because we had to continue to be in this pressure cooker and do the right thing for the band. It was a difficult emotional time for years, and I think it took its toll in terms of my emotional availability and my temper.”
For all of that - and a nasty confrontation when Buckingham left the band for a while in 1987 - Nicks never quite gave up on a possible future together until he had his first child in 1998. “Because we started out so young together, both Lindsey and I would always laughingly say - which we both knew was never going to happen - that, like, when we were 90, and everybody else was dead, maybe we would end up together in an old folks’ home, because of what we had gone though, just him and me, for a long, long, long time. So when his first child was coming, I think we were walking in an airport, and I said, “Well, I guess we’re never going to get to that old folks’ home.” And he’s like, ‘Yeah, I guess we never are.’ It was something that we said in kind of a poignant way.”
For all her crystal-visionary mysticism and chiffon-hoarding, Stevie Nicks is not, as best as can be determined, an actual witch - though she did tweak years of rumors by playing one on American Horror Story. She always kind of wanted to be one, but never the evil kind. “I had a great love for Halloween, and for being a witchy character, from when I was six years old,” says Nicks. “And my mom and I argued about it every single year, that she was very tired of making witch costumes.” When she was in fourth grade, her mom made her a yellow Martha Washington costume. Nicks dyed it black.
She’s never really had ‘crystal visions’, but there are times when lyrics come to her unbidden, as if she’s “channeling some poet”. She’s confident she’s lived before this life: “I was definitely a performer in another life. Maybe I was in vaudeville or a ballerina. I’m too comfortable onstage.” And more to the point, there have always been moments in her performances when she taps into the ineffable, when something…odd seems to happen. She would work herself into head-shaking, closed-eyes, barely controlled frenzies during the coda of “Rhiannon”, her signature tale of, well, a witch; and then there is a stunning 1982 performance of “Sisters of the Moon”, captured on film and available on YouTube, in which she begins to caterwaul what are either nonsense syllables or an ancient faerie language.
On the current tour, Nicks dips back into this territory most nights during “Gold Dust Woman” the darkest track on Rumours. Buckingham called it “evil”, and it was weirdly prophetic, with its image of a woman digging her grave with a coke spoon, well before Nicks’ and her bandmates’ drug use seemed problematic. The version they’re playing now can stretch past 11 minutes, and while the band slips into an ominous, psychedelic breakdown, Nicks loses herself in dance, silhouetted against the stage, her hair merging with a golden shawl to form a winglike nimbus. At the Forum, she banged her head, waved her arms, shook her hips as she glided across the stage. There, in the shadow, she could have been 27 again.(“It’s like, ‘How are you doing this?’ says Alana Haim, who’s witnessed this moment. “It’s the craziest thing I’ve ever seen”).
The magic comes with a price - in this case, Nicks’ back pains. She was especially heedless in L.A. “The adrenaline hits me, and it’s like I could twist my head right off my body,” she says after that show, the night before Anaheim. “And I really hurt my back. I need ice every single morning when I wake up. I go ‘You gold-dusted out las night’. It’s the drug-addict in ‘Gold Dust Woman’ who is breaking her back. She’s out there and she’s looking for drugs, and I’m trying to create that situation onstage so people get what it’s about, which was a very heavy, bad time in my life.”
By the mid-Eighties, Nicks was risking her life with each bump of cocaine - doctors found a permanent hole in the cartilage of her nose. As it turns out, the hole was created by another drug: She used to dissolve aspirin in her water and squirt the solution into her nose as a headache cure, not realizing aspirin is an acid. “I thought I was being the best, most hygienic nurse ever,” she says.
In any case, she was a mess by 1986 or so, and her friends were scared, even if they shared their habits. ‘All of us were drug addicts,” says Nicks. “But there was a point where I was the worst drug addict….I was a girl, I was fragile, and I was doing a lot of coke. And I had that hole in my nose. So it was dangerous.”
“I did all I could to talk her into getting some help and getting right,” says Petty. “I was very worried about her. To the point that if the phone did ring and they said, ‘Stevie died,’ I wouldn’t have been surprised.”
At the end of her 1986 Rock A Little tour, she checked herself into rehab, and as she recalls it, told them, “Here I am. Fix me. Here’s all my problems, just fix me.” They did, more or less, but then a psychiatrist she calls “Dr ****head” prescribed her Klonopin, which led to at least as bad an addiction and another, worse, rehab stint in 1993.
Nicks never considered herself an alcoholic, and she still smokes a bit of weed, albeit as a creativity aid. “When I’m writing I will allow myself to smoke a little bit of pot,” she says. “It’s my one little thing that I can do. If I’m sitting at the piano and I’m writing, then I’m not out driving around in a car. Nobody is here, nobody sees me. I am not smoking with anybody. It’s just me, and it’s my choice. I use it as a tool, and I’m very careful, you know? And I get results. However, if I thought it was going to lead me back to something worse, I’d stop.”
There are many rooms in Stevie Nicks’ house, and she lives in none of them. Nicks bought a suitable grand semi-mansion just a few miles away from her condo around 2005, and pretty quickly realized that it wasn’t meant to be her home. “This is way too much house for me”, she says, greeting me there on a Sunday evening. “When I came and looked at this house, there was a family with a set of twins and two other children living here. It was jumpin’, this house, you know? And I was like, “Oh, it’s so fantastic! And then of course when I moved in, there’s no furniture and the family was gone and I’m like, ‘What happened? It’s empty!’ I thought the family came with the house!”
So she switched to the condo, where she feels young and unburdened. But Kellianne, one her many godchildren, lives at the house, taking care of the property, and Nicks used it to record her 2011 album In Your Dreams. All the recording equipment is here, and there are three pianos in the stairwell, including a pristine white Steinway that belonged to Leon Russell - she’s trying to figure out if it would fit into her condo somewhere. The piano is decorated year-round for Halloween. Sitting atop it are a large sculpture of a dragon, two ghoulish skeleton dolls, a glittery skull and, for good measure, a pair of Vivienne Westwood high heels.
It’s the day after the Anaheim show, and Nicks has some errands to run at the big house before heading off to the next concert, in Arizona. There, she’ll have a chance to see her brother, who recently recovered from bladder cancer. She’s wearing prescription sunglasses and more silken black. On her neck is a diamond-encrusted version of her trademark moon necklace, given to her by the jeweler father of a young fan named Sara, who became a friend before she died of cancer in her early twenties. It has 32 stones, one for each show Sara attended.
“Karen, I need the burn cream,” Nicks says, turning to me. “We had a pretty terrible accident two hours ago.” The accident, it transpired, involved some overheated green squash soup, which Nicks was eating for “breakfast” in bed, along with some eggs around 4pm. It spilled on Nicks’ hand, so she’s slathering it with an ointment she calls “Iraqi burn cream.” “It’s what they they put on burns victims,” she says. “Everyone should have this.”
There are three fireplaces going, and crystal chandeliers hang in almost every room. Nicks shows me a nook in the library, a window seat where she’d perch for hours in contemplation after the death of her mother in 2011. You can see the ocean through the window, and, if you look hard enough, her condo. “This room is magical,” she says.
Losing her mother, even at age 84, was shattering. Nicks moved back into the big house and went into seclusion. “I had to really get over the fact that my little mother - who was always the one to give me advice, from the day I joined the band with Lindsey in 1968, who was the lady on the other end of the phone telling me what was the right thing to do - was gone. And I was just horrified. I realized at that point, when I started to come out of it, that I was going to try and be as great as I could be and do the best I can in my work and also not take anything for granted and do the things that I want to do.”
But lately, she’s been hearing her mother’s voice again. “She says stuff to me that nobody in my world who’s alive can think of to say. And I now know there’s the other side, because of my mother. I know my mom’s tone, and I know her philosophy, and when I hear her answer a question for me, I go, like “There is another world.” I am no longer thinking what people tell you, like, “There’s nothing”. Well, there is. There is totally something, and Mom is on the other side.”
Nicks’ own closest brush with being a mom was when Robin Snyder Anderson, her best friend since childhood, died of leukemia just after giving birth in 1982. Doctors managed to save the child, and a dazed, coked-up, grieving Nicks married Robin’s widower. It lasted all of three months. “He was like, ‘Well, there’s no time in your life for Matthew or me.’ And I thought to myself, ‘Well, boy, are you right. There’s not.” As she prepared to go on the road, she told him she wanted a divorce. But she later reunited with Matthew, now 32, and paid for his college. Nicks is also a nurturing godmotherly figure to many young women, including Fleetwood’s daughters, who range in age from 12 to 43. When Nicks took care of a drunken and upset Vanessa Carlton one night, she told her, “That’s what mommies do for their babies” - and she flew to New York at the end of 2014 to be around for the due date of Carlton’s child.
Nicks has dated her share of rock stars, including both Don Henley and Joe Walsh of The Eagles, but they weren’t any better at dealing with the demands of her career. “The rock & roll people I went with - they didn’t understand my life either,” she says. “You would think they would have, but they didn’t. They weren’t all that different than your normal lawyer, because they thought, in the egos of men, that I would be giving up a part of my life for them. And I wasn’t going to do that. I was also in a band that was equally as famous as their bands, so that wasn’t going to work for them, because they thought I should be taking the woman’s place there. That was everything that my mother taught me not to ever do.”
In the late Nineties, she tries dating a younger, nonfamous dude - a waiter, in fact - but that didn’t work either. “I was 50 and he was 30, and he was a very old 30 - he had two little boys and was a very nice man,” she recalls, sitting on a maroon couch in her living room, where a vocal mic is still rigged up overhead. On the glass coffee table are her burn cream; a water-damaged copy of an Oscar Wilde anthology she’s had for decades, filled with her old underlinings; two unlit candles; a book about Jimi Hendrix; and a bowl decorated with the lyrics of “Landslide” - a gift from the Dixie Chicks. “And he really cared about me.” But she found the situation embarrassing and tried to keep him under wraps. “One day, he came home and said, “I got two tickets for Bill Maher, will you go with me?” and I’m like, ‘Are you insane!? No, I’m not going. I’m famous! I’m Stevie Nicks! Everybody’s gonna spend the whole time taking pictures of us. And I can’t keep on making excuses about why you can’t go anywhere I can go. Like, can I take you to the Grammys? No. Can I go the market with you? No. Can we go to a movie together in downtown Santa Monica? No. All we can do is stay in.”
So she’s ruled out younger men and doesn’t particularly want to date older ones: “What if I fall in love with somebody and they die?” And she doesn’t hold out much hope for guys her age. “They wanna go out with somebody that’s 25,” she says. “That has been going on since the Bible, and I haven’t even read the Bible, but I know that. So what am I gonna do, compete with that? I’m not a competitor. So I don’t even wanna be in that situation.”
So, in short, ‘I’ve narrowed it down to nobody,” she says, and laughs hard. “Sounds like a good country song, doesn’t it?” She begins to sing: “I’ve narrowed it down to nobody/Nobody’s the right one for me.” Her most recent relationship ended in 2004, and if it turns out to be her final romance, she can deal with it. “I had a lot of great relationships,” she says. “A lot of great, totally sexy, totally romantic relationships. Don Henley flew me in a cranberry-colored jet to the Omni in Atlanta during Hotel California. I have had experiences that have been so amazing that if I never go out with anybody again, my memories are so full of incredibly beautiful, sensual, fantastic experiences that it’s OK… And my life today is great, and I have wonderful friends, and I have music.”
Nicks has a lot of plans for her future: She wants to do a TV show or movie based on the original Welsh Rhiannon myth. Maybe she’ll finally write the memoir people keep asking about, though it won’t be “the dirty sex book they want”. She wants to write novels, to produce young artists. She wants to spend time in the third home she has nearby, an opulent seaside trailer. “I have been so ensconced in being in Fleetwood Mac and being in my own solo work,” she says. “When I choose for all of that to come to an end, then that door will fly open for me. And I will walk into my trailer, and I will, like, fall to my knees on my cushy white rug and look out at the ocean and go, ‘I am finally free. I can now do all of those thing I’ve always wanted to do.’
“And then maybe I’ll take a break and move to Paris and live another couple of years there,” she continues. “And learn to speak French and go out with some really old guys from Paris that are 102. It’s all going to be good, and I did what I came here to do. My mom said, ‘You have always been on a mission. Your mission has been to entertain the world. And you have done it since you were five years old.’”
It’s getting late, and Nicks’ hairdresser has come by to prep her for her next day’s show. But before I go, she has her assistant bring out a stack of canvases: the drawings and paintings Nicks has been working on for decades. Nicks discovered a sudden talent for visual art around the time of Robin’s death, and she’s convinced it was a parting gift from her friend. There’s an outsider-art quality - and a distinct power - to her dream-logic compositions, which tend to be dominated by pretty but forlorn female faces, surrounded by abstract shapes (“This is really my forte - the stuff that looks like bones and teeth”) and interwoven crystalline structures. Nicks started many of them late at night in the early Eighties. More often than not, she was on drugs and feeling “alone and lost in a lot of ways.”
Sometimes she’d start a painting, then ruin it when she was “totally stoned” - she shows me one that’s slathered in muddy brown and glitter: “This is too much drugs,” she says. “Probably Klonopin.”
That one can’t be fixed. But when she gets the time, she likes to take out her other drawings and add to them, to fix them, to try to undo mistakes she made when she was young and high and lost. “I’m never finished with them” Nicks says, looking at a sad, beautiful face from long ago. “I can bring them back to life.”
I find it interesting that she is reading a memoir about Janis Joplin but is so adament against putting out her own story.She can't be reading it to get career "pointers" so she must be on a smut search just like every day people are when they read memoirs.Seems to me she can dish it out but can't take it:nod:
KarmaContestant
01-15-2015, 07:39 PM
For me, it was both of these things :shrug:
No offense - really, truly - but that's not because of the weed.
I smoke pot because I can. I live in state where it's legal. I can go to any number of dispensaries any day of the week and buy as much as I want. No way would I smoke it every day, or even every other day, or even every week, or even every month. It's just too much of a brain fog, which can be totally appealing. I can see that, but that's not appealing to me at all. The occasional joint for a party, to be shared, is enough for me. At some points in my life, before it was legal, I smoked it because I had friends who smoked it. Never have I ever smoked weed, or had alcohol, in my 41 years and thought "I need something stronger. This isn't enough."
The notion of any drug being a gateway drug is a flawed one. Someone people are looking for escapism from an unhappy life. Some people are weak willed. Some people are genetically predisposed to be addicted to something, anything, drugs, sex, gambling, food.
The only gateway is the human condition.
Edit: I walked away after this post to unload the dishwasher, and worried the entire time that someone, anyone, would take offense to my words and think that I am attempting to invalidate their own personal experiences with my own. I'm not. I guess I'm arguing what may be a case of semantics, but it irks me when media outlets talk about 'gateway drugs' as if anyone, everyone who smokes pot has some switch flipped in their brains where they suddenly become completely incapable of resisting harder drugs of any and all varieties. Smoking pot won't make anyone a homeless heroin prostitute. Not everyone who drinks will become a raging alcoholic passed out on their lawn from guzzling Listerine. It's the human condition that causes those things. It's choices we make, ourselves, willingly, to conform, to escape, because we simply cannot be *just ourselves*, or because we are genetically predisposed to addiction.
galestreet
01-15-2015, 07:49 PM
I love Molly and Mike kinda like I like Stevie:angel:
michelej1
01-16-2015, 01:11 AM
[From a 2011 Rolling Stone interview I just saw]
BY COLLEEN NIKA | September 14, 2011
http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/exclusive-anna-sui-discusses-her-spring-2012-show-and-punk-rock-heritage-20110914
In anticipation of her Spring 2012 season, Anna Sui spoke to Rolling Stone about her latest collection, her punk rock heritage, why she hates Fleetwood Mac (but loves Stevie Nicks), and why the next revolution, live-tweeted or not, won't likely take place in her own neighborhood.
Who is the ultimate Anna Sui muse? Is she a singer?
Anita Pallenberg, but she's not a musician! But, weirdly, I'd have to say Stevie Nicks is probably the one. I have a funny story here, though. A long time ago, I mentioned in the press that I hated Fleetwood Mac, because they were a part of the stadium rock mainstream that I was railing against in the 1970s. She read it and called me. She thought it was so funny I would say that publicly, so she invited me to watch her perform. I've always loved her aesthetic; she's a true style icon. I did a whole collection based on her Rolling Stone covers!
Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/exclusive-anna-sui-discusses-her-spring-2012-show-and-punk-rock-heritage-20110914#ixzz3OxhqOQ6u
Follow us: @rollingstone on Twitter | RollingStone on Facebook
Rachelclaire
01-16-2015, 01:41 AM
Has anyone seen this?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2912497/I-worst-drug-addict-Stevie-Nicks-recalls-cocaine-habit-discusses-dating-60-Rolling-Stone.html
I don't think that they could have mentioned that she smokes pot anymore times.
MoonSister75
01-16-2015, 04:44 AM
No offense - really, truly - but that's not because of the weed.
I smoke pot because I can. I live in state where it's legal. I can go to any number of dispensaries any day of the week and buy as much as I want. No way would I smoke it every day, or even every other day, or even every week, or even every month. It's just too much of a brain fog, which can be totally appealing. I can see that, but that's not appealing to me at all. The occasional joint for a party, to be shared, is enough for me. At some points in my life, before it was legal, I smoked it because I had friends who smoked it. Never have I ever smoked weed, or had alcohol, in my 41 years and thought "I need something stronger. This isn't enough."
The notion of any drug being a gateway drug is a flawed one. Someone people are looking for escapism from an unhappy life. Some people are weak willed. Some people are genetically predisposed to be addicted to something, anything, drugs, sex, gambling, food.
The only gateway is the human condition.
Edit: I walked away after this post to unload the dishwasher, and worried the entire time that someone, anyone, would take offense to my words and think that I am attempting to invalidate their own personal experiences with my own. I'm not. I guess I'm arguing what may be a case of semantics, but it irks me when media outlets talk about 'gateway drugs' as if anyone, everyone who smokes pot has some switch flipped in their brains where they suddenly become completely incapable of resisting harder drugs of any and all varieties. Smoking pot won't make anyone a homeless heroin prostitute. Not everyone who drinks will become a raging alcoholic passed out on their lawn from guzzling Listerine. It's the human condition that causes those things. It's choices we make, ourselves, willingly, to conform, to escape, because we simply cannot be *just ourselves*, or because we are genetically predisposed to addiction.
It's fine, I'm not offended, and interested in others point of view. I really tried to say in my post that everyone's experience with it is different. For many people they have no problem at all with cannabis, and I understand it's benefit for medical uses and pain relief. I wasn't trying to paint it in a terrible light. I was just stating my experience.
It does have addictive qualities to it like alcohol, caffeine, nicotine, prescription drugs and illegal drugs. It's the only thing in my life I found hard to stop doing on a nightly basis, but I did manage to stop after 3 years (in the end it just took a week of not being able to get to sleep) and I felt so much better and so much happier once I did. I haven't gone anywhere near it for 18years. It really doesn't suit me and I was making me feel truly horrible. I understand this doesn't happen with many people, I just thought that it was important to put my experience across. I have never craved anything else on a nightly basis - alcohol, cigarette etc so there was something particularly addictive about pot for me.
I knew many others who also craved, and so smoked it, every night. It also lead me into smoking cigarettes and made it easier for me to try other drugs. I haven't heard the media hype about gateway drugs and I understand that it's probably being blown out of all proportion - I definitely wasn't supporting right wing propaganda :shrug:, just being honest about my experience . I hope this explains my post a bit better.
I agree with you it should be personal choice and not dictated by governments. For people that can take it or leave it, and when it doesn't cause negative effects on their brain and emotions, there isn't a problem.
teedeerocks
01-16-2015, 07:12 AM
It's fine, I'm not offended, and interested in others point of view. I really tried to say in my post that everyone's experience with it is different. For many people they have no problem at all with cannabis, and I understand it's benefit for medical uses and pain relief. I wasn't trying to paint it in a terrible light. I was just stating my experience.
It does have addictive qualities to it like alcohol, caffeine, nicotine, prescription drugs and illegal drugs. It's the only thing in my life I found hard to stop doing on a nightly basis, but I did manage to stop after 3 years (in the end it just took a week of not being able to get to sleep) and I felt so much better and so much happier once I did. I haven't gone anywhere near it for 18years. It really doesn't suit me and I was making me feel truly horrible. I understand this doesn't happen with many people, I just thought that it was important to put my experience across. I have never craved anything else on a nightly basis - alcohol, cigarette etc so there was something particularly addictive about pot for me.
I knew many others who also craved, and so smoked it, every night. It also lead me into smoking cigarettes and made it easier for me to try other drugs. I haven't heard the media hype about gateway drugs and I understand that it's probably being blown out of all proportion - I definitely wasn't supporting right wing propaganda :shrug:, just being honest about my experience . I hope this explains my post a bit better.
I agree with you it should be personal choice and not dictated by governments. For people that can take it or leave it, and when it doesn't cause negative effects on their brain and emotions, there isn't a problem.
I don't think pot is a gateway drug and it's definitely not a problem for alot of people.But for Stevie(or others like her) I think it is a potential problem as she has an obvious addictive personality - just ask Betty Ford (please,I know she's gone).People with any addiction will always try to justify or make light of what they're doing - ie:I'll just smoke 5 cigs a day or I'll make just 1 bet or have 1 beer.Having said that,she is a big girl and can make her own decisions and I wasn't appalled or shocked to find this little tidbit out.
wheart
01-16-2015, 08:34 AM
I was a little disappointed with the article - I think it was geared towards younger fans who don't know the Stevie's very colorful past. In terms of that, it's a nice overview but for die hards, it's one gigantic rehash. I agree with other folk's sentiments regarding the lack of focus on 24K Gold. It would have been nice if it were mentioned more than just in passing. But still, Stevie on the cover of RS is a cause celebration in my world! The one thing I did love was the part about Lindsey objecting to her loud music playing in the dressing room. Who knows how much of it is really true and/or staged but it made for an amusing read. I could so see him banging on the wall!!
twinmatrix
01-16-2015, 09:53 AM
Hope I can find a copy soon~.
jkmaletic
01-16-2015, 10:28 AM
I feel so dumb thnking Lindsey is next door to her in a condo - it's a dressing room.
Dumb, Jamie. :rolleyes:
in my defense though, I was reading this lengthy thing from my phone.
wheart
01-16-2015, 12:02 PM
I feel so dumb thnking Lindsey is next door to her in a condo - it's a dressing room.
Dumb, Jamie. :rolleyes:
in my defense though, I was reading this lengthy thing from my phone.
no, I got confused too because the interview started in her condo and then suddenly they were in her dressing room at the venue.
reebokandlace
01-16-2015, 01:05 PM
Oh big deal she smokes pot. Pot is only an issue if you have health issues regarding smoking or you are a mamsy pamsy. Sounds like a lot of people listen to media and government propoganda regarding it being a gateway drug. Remember those old videos they used to show us in middle school of people smoking pot, which then led to LSD and god forbid if you drop acid you will jump out of a highrise window! Priceless. Grow up. No one has ever died from overdosing on marijuana. Fact. Dispute it all you want, there is not one medical case of THC overdose because it would take 5kilos of pot to kill you, even concentrated 5 kilos is an incredible amount to concentrate and that much consumption of concentrate is nearly impossible. Even water can kill you if you drink 25 gallons at once. No one has ever tried. No one ever will. Stupid propaganda.
I give her a lot of credit for keeping the interview real. She has walked thru some scary addictions and come out on the otherside relatively unscathed. I just wish she would stop blaming the doctor for the klonopin. It annoys me she wont take responsibility for taking a prescription drug. The same way it annoys me when she says "we didnt know coke was dangerous". Obviously Tom Petty knew it was dangerous and that she was using too much, he said he "wouldn't be surprised if....."
If i took all the coke that she did and put it in a pile, i could write a book about all the people who died trying to climb that mountain. At some point i hope she can stand up and say, if not publically, at least to herself " i have no one to blame but myself for every line and every pill i ever took". Pleading ignorant is pitiful.
I can only hope she allows herself time to pursue other artistic adventures, painting, writing the book, whatever. Time is short. Much of her life is behind her and the sands of time in her hour glass are fewer than what has passed....
James89
01-16-2015, 02:05 PM
At some point i hope she can stand up and say, if not publically, at least to herself " i have no one to blame but myself for every line and every pill i ever took". Pleading ignorant is pitiful.
I agree. I still can't understand how she thought the klonopin was okay during the 1987-93 days as she looked awful but unfortunately she couldn't see it.
I think she looked beautiful in the Seven Wonders video and then it all got gradually worse with the Tango in the Night tour video where I think she looked awful. The hair was terrible and she didn't move a lot at all. It's just sad to watch. I don't think I've ever seen anyone transform like that, from the sexy energetic rock icon as late as 1983 to a couch potato in 1987.
I think she looks better now! :nod:
WildHearted
01-16-2015, 02:16 PM
I feel so dumb thnking Lindsey is next door to her in a condo - it's a dressing room.
Dumb, Jamie. :rolleyes:
in my defense though, I was reading this lengthy thing from my phone.
No, it's not you - the way it was written was confusing. I thought the same thing at first and had to go back and read more carefully to figure out what was going on :lol:
rainy_sunday
01-16-2015, 04:09 PM
Love the cover, pure gold. She is still relevant, one of the last of the true rockers!
soul_drifter333
01-16-2015, 06:14 PM
New ABC News article on old repeated news. :thumbsup:
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/stevie-nicks-opens-past-cocaine/story?id=28271403
Macfan4life
01-16-2015, 07:29 PM
It's great to see Stevie on the cover, I love it. I'm just really disappointed in the article and Stevie. There really is next to zero new information. The funny bits are awesome, but they're just funny bits. Definitely not any insights as to her future ambitions with Fleetwood Mac. She's ok with the attention she's given from the Mac but also talks out the other side of her mouth as if it's a burden...something she just has to do (because she doesn't have the guts to just say it doesn't make her happy any more and leave, money still talks). Get real..an eight page interview that says what exactly?
It's a shame that Christine came back for all the right reasons and with ambition to make new music while Stevie is almost in the opposite direction. I don't think Christine has much to worry about in terms of being able to stay committed to Fleetwood Mac...sounds like to me she came back after 15 years for one really long greatest hits tour and that could potentially be about it. The joke is on Chris this time, sadly. How about "Stevie Nicks Looking Forward" for a change!? Everyone in this band has moved on with their lives, found some happiness and figured out how to work with each other but Stevie keeps beating the same drum from the past.
I don't mean to just single Stevie out. Hello Lindsey, you should know by now that the number one way to get under Stevie's skin is to not even recognize her brand new solo album. Give the girl a bone and say something nice. Mend some fences. You're a married man, have you learned anything? They're both nearly 70 years old and still pushing the same buttons. Unbelievable.
From this article it sounds like as much as she likes being on stage with Christine, she'll be ready to shelve Fleetwood Mac for quite a while after this tour is over. How can they even begin to make a record if they can't even talk to each other and have assistants running messages between them. It's absurd and really sad. Sorry for the rant.
That is how Rolling Stone writes. It has always driven me crazy. The interview bounces all over the place. Its not a question and answer session or real interview. Its a story that the writer sort of paints a picture or tells a story. IMHO they have always written articles like this
Macfanforever
01-16-2015, 09:01 PM
After trekking out in the freezing cold to pay some bills and my property taxes" rent" as I call it.I made my way down to my local grocery store to do my shopping.I said to myself I better look for Stevie's RS at the racks.They had it there so I grab one for now since I supposed too get the copy in the mail from that mag preview plan from FYE .I would not hold my breath with them and miss out on this.
Now I have something good to read in bed tonight then reading geek books.LOL......
Walmart and BJs did not have Stevie's RS but they had truck loads of her friend Tom Petty with a special issue on the racks.
Danielle
01-16-2015, 09:03 PM
An outtake from the photographer's instagram:
http://s25.postimg.org/isaolvw0v/10919723_540985066004014_2005734938_n.jpg
Jondalar
01-16-2015, 09:09 PM
After trekking out in the freezing cold to pay some bills and my property taxes" rent" as I call it.I made my way down to my local grocery store to do my shopping.I said to myself I better look for Stevie's RS at the racks.They had it there so I grab one for now since I supposed too get the copy in the mail from that mag preview plan from FYE .I would not hold my breath with them and miss out on this.
Now I have something good to read in bed tonight then reading geek books.LOL......
Walmart and BJs did not have Stevie's RS but they had truck loads of her friend Tom Petty with a special issue on the racks.
Where is the new Rolling Stone two stores on had Rolling Stone with Nicki Minja on the cover. WTF
Macfanforever
01-16-2015, 10:17 PM
Where is the new Rolling Stone two stores on had Rolling Stone with Nicki Minja on the cover. WTF
I did not see Nicki's issue tonight in the racks here .All others I've seen was Tom Petty.
It looks like your stores did not receive Stevie's issues yet.
I was thinking of they had Nicki Minaj on the cover a week before Stevie was strange.
I might want to check the Tom Petty issue out in the meantime.It might have some Stevie info in it.
Macfanforever
01-16-2015, 10:19 PM
An outtake from the photographer's instagram:
http://s25.postimg.org/isaolvw0v/10919723_540985066004014_2005734938_n.jpg
Wow.Thanks. .I hope the photog keeps them coming.
Straightback
01-16-2015, 11:03 PM
From Huffington Post
Sorry guys, but if you're crushing on Stevie Nicks you're out of luck.
In an interview with Rolling Stone, the 66-year-old singer/songwriter opened up about her love life ... or lack thereof.
"What if I fall in love with somebody and they die?" she said, adding that guys her age "want to go out with somebody that's 25."
"That has been going on since the Bible, and I haven't even read the Bible, but I know that. So what am I gonna do, compete with that? I'm not a competitor. So I don't even wanna be in that situation ... I've narrowed it down to nobody."
Nicks may have backed off from the dating scene, but she's certainly been busy. She released a new album, “24 Karat Gold: Songs From The Vault," this past October, which is made up of unrecorded songs she wrote between 1969 and 1995. When she's not working on her music, Nicks serves as a mentor to younger women like Vanessa Carlton, Sheryl Crow, Tavi Gevinson and the Haim sisters.
“I’m looking for the great people, the legends,” she told The Huffington Post. “These, I think, are legendary women. I want to do what I can do to help them stay on track.”
bombaysaffires
01-16-2015, 11:18 PM
An outtake from the photographer's instagram:
http://s25.postimg.org/isaolvw0v/10919723_540985066004014_2005734938_n.jpg
ok well I can see why she rejected this one..the eye on the left (really her right eye) shows a little line under it. she's super critical
olive
01-16-2015, 11:42 PM
ok well I can see why she rejected this one..the eye on the left (really her right eye) shows a little line under it. she's super critical
That's why god made photoshop
olive
01-17-2015, 11:23 AM
https://www.yahoo.com/music/stevie-nicks-reveals-i-was-the-worst-drug-addict-108281329281.html
wheart
01-17-2015, 02:41 PM
An outtake from the photographer's instagram:
http://s25.postimg.org/isaolvw0v/10919723_540985066004014_2005734938_n.jpg
this would have made a nice addition to the article. The other pic current pic they included was nice enough but she's wearing the same thing as she is wearing on the cover, sans the hat. This would have mixed things up a bit
twinmatrix
01-17-2015, 02:49 PM
An outtake from the photographer's instagram:
http://s25.postimg.org/isaolvw0v/10919723_540985066004014_2005734938_n.jpg
Not to sound mean but that picture is really bad. I'm fine with wrinkles, aged skin, etc. but LOOK AT HER EXPRESSION! :p It's like she's falling forward thinking "oh **** I'm gonna break a hip". And then that other eye hidden, you can only see a creepy red line. Just no no no lol.
jkmaletic
01-17-2015, 03:24 PM
I did not see Nicki's issue tonight in the racks here .All others I've seen was Tom Petty.
It looks like your stores did not receive Stevie's issues yet.
I was thinking of they had Nicki Minaj on the cover a week before Stevie was strange.
I might want to check the Tom Petty issue out in the meantime.It might have some Stevie info in it.
The Barnes and Noble had it near me, but they had to retrieve it from "the back" (they hadn't yet put the new issues on the shelf). For them, it arrived Thursday and I bought it yesterday (Friday). So I would call Barnes and Noble or your local bookstore and have them check the back if it's not yet on the shelf.
Jamie
ragrsrocalot
01-17-2015, 04:25 PM
The QUEEN of ROCK and ROLL!!! :angel:
Stevie looks amazing as usual. Very interesting article. Love her honesty always. :D
Macfanforever
01-17-2015, 11:56 PM
The Barnes and Noble had it near me, but they had to retrieve it from "the back" (they hadn't yet put the new issues on the shelf). For them, it arrived Thursday and I bought it yesterday (Friday). So I would call Barnes and Noble or your local bookstore and have them check the back if it's not yet on the shelf.
Jamie
Thats good to know.I'm glad my store was right on top of things and get the new issues on display.I probably would had to my local mall today"Saturday" to search for it.
Or drive to B&N and get it.
So far it never showed up in the mail yet.We'll see Tuesday .
SuiteShangriLa
01-18-2015, 01:12 AM
Got myself a couple copies today at B&N. Went back to the magazine racks and didn't find it. So I was going up to the front counters to ask about it and there it was by the check out. Yaaaay!!
Jondalar
01-18-2015, 06:47 AM
I did not see it anywhere at Barnes and Noble.
cliffdweller
01-18-2015, 09:22 AM
From Huffington Post“I’m looking for the great people, the legends,” she told The Huffington Post. “These, I think, are legendary women. I want to do what I can do to help them stay on track.”
Vanessa Carlton is far from legendary. I do not get Stevie's great admiration for her as an "artist." I can't stand it when they duet together. I can't stand Carlton's mealy, mousey vocals. I wish Stevie would collaborate with some women who can stand toe to toe with her like Florence Welch or someone of that caliber. I'd like to have my socks knocked off, not watch/listen idly while she babysits some young no-talent ingenue. So incredibly boring....
DauphineMarie
01-18-2015, 02:20 PM
I did not see it anywhere at Barnes and Noble.
I found mine at Barnes and Noble at the very front at checkout.
Macfanforever
01-18-2015, 03:42 PM
I found mine at Barnes and Noble at the very front at checkout.
I did not see it anywhere at Barnes and Noble.
Check your grocery store like Shop Rite if you have one where I got mine up in the checkout line.
Also check news stands and drug stores.
I'm still surprised the biggest store in this country "Walmart" does not have it stocked.
I have a feeling all of those Tom Petty specials are not selling.All the places had his issue will stocked and it looks like they are not moving off the racks.
starshine
01-18-2015, 03:59 PM
Checked Mejiers also yesterday and it wasn't out yet either.
Jondalar
01-18-2015, 04:05 PM
Checked Mejiers also yesterday and it wasn't out yet either.
I checked Meijetd too. I don't think Niki Minjas issue sold very well. It looked liked none of them sold at Meijers, Barnes and Noble or Walk Mart.
michelej1
01-18-2015, 04:14 PM
[Oh, you like crime, Stevie]
Jan 17 2015 21:48:37
By Jon Bream Star Tribune (Minneapolis)
Jan. 17--When she gets tired during the Fleetwood Mac tour, singer Stevie Nicks likes to put her feet up and watch some TV.
JON BREAM
"If I can, I curl up with my little 16-year-old dog and a hot water bottle and a cup of chai tea and watch 'Law and Order' or 'NCIS' or 'NCIS: LA' or 'Criminal Minds' or any of those crazy shows. Maybe because they completely take your mind off of everything. That's really fun for me. Not that I specifically like crime, because I don't. We feel like we know all those characters so well. So that is relaxing for me."
Macfanforever
01-18-2015, 04:15 PM
An outtake from the photographer's instagram:
http://s25.postimg.org/isaolvw0v/10919723_540985066004014_2005734938_n.jpg
I wonder if this was takin towards the end of the shoot .Maybe she was getting tired or tired from the night before of work .She looks tired in this photo.
Macfanforever
01-18-2015, 04:20 PM
[Oh, you like crime, Stevie]
Jan 17 2015 21:48:37
By Jon Bream Star Tribune (Minneapolis)
Jan. 17--When she gets tired during the Fleetwood Mac tour, singer Stevie Nicks likes to put her feet up and watch some TV.
JON BREAM
"If I can, I curl up with my little 16-year-old dog and a hot water bottle and a cup of chai tea and watch 'Law and Order' or 'NCIS' or 'NCIS: LA' or 'Criminal Minds' or any of those crazy shows. Maybe because they completely take your mind off of everything. That's really fun for me. Not that I specifically like crime, because I don't. We feel like we know all those characters so well. So that is relaxing for me."
Also she likes CSI too.I enjoy these shows too.Its whats left of good scripted TV.
I did not her dog is that old.
I'm so happy that she finds time to watch the tube.Probably more then I do since I'm on this thing online.
I got my copy at a Target which is not near where I live, but I was out doing some errands in another city in my state yesterday, saw it & bought it. Anyway, I think that this may be as close to a biography as we'll get even though I think this is pretty much all known.
Now why was she blasting her music? Yeah I think she may have been trying to get under Lindsey's skin. Now don't get me wrong; I love Stevie, love her music, but why couldn't RS have done a story on Fleetwood Mac, especially since they, as a whole band, are touring. :shrug:
I hope my dog lives to 16 years old; he's 11 now & he always seems to get sick, but you'd never know that he's 11, still acts like a puppy. :nod:
Hope Stevie gets to do everything she'd like to do as she mentioned in the article.
Lee :)
gypsyhelena
01-18-2015, 09:17 PM
Vanessa Carlton is far from legendary. I do not get Stevie's great admiration for her as an "artist." I can't stand it when they duet together. I can't stand Carlton's mealy, mousey vocals. I wish Stevie would collaborate with some women who can stand toe to toe with her like Florence Welch or someone of that caliber. I'd like to have my socks knocked off, not watch/listen idly while she babysits some young no-talent ingenue. So incredibly boring....
A Florence Welch and Stevie Nicks collab would be wonderful. Passionate, dark and witchy... And it'd be especially interesting to hear how their voices go together, seeing as they both have voices that aren't 'traditionally pretty'. I can just imagine the wailing and the twirling of chiffon... :rolleyes:
totallycait
01-18-2015, 10:00 PM
That is how Rolling Stone writes. It has always driven me crazy. The interview bounces all over the place. Its not a question and answer session or real interview. Its a story that the writer sort of paints a picture or tells a story. IMHO they have always written articles like this
It depends. This is a profile. Their other standard feature is The Rolling Stone Interview, which is the kind of dry Q&A you're referring to.
I am ecstatic that she's on the cover, and I think the description of her in the first few paragraphs is one of the most accurate ever.
michelej1
01-18-2015, 10:03 PM
Stevie's going to make me buy a hot water bottle.
Michele
teedeerocks
01-18-2015, 10:59 PM
I wonder if this was takin towards the end of the shoot .Maybe she was getting tired or tired from the night before of work .She looks tired in this photo.
And very puffy or bloated,like she just woke up.But if I woke up looking like that I wouldn't complain
teedeerocks
01-18-2015, 11:04 PM
Check your grocery store like Shop Rite if you have one where I got mine up in the checkout line.
Also check news stands and drug stores.
I'm still surprised the biggest store in this country "Walmart" does not have it stocked.
I have a feeling all of those Tom Petty specials are not selling.All the places had his issue will stocked and it looks like they are not moving off the racks.
I know.I checked Walmart b/c I had shopping to do and nothing.So I went to my local trading post and they had tons so if you have a shop like that around you,you have a good chance.The clerk says Rolling Stone doesn't sell the way it used to b/c of the internet and has not seen so many hard copies sold in years:angel:
Macfanforever
01-19-2015, 02:58 AM
I know.I checked Walmart b/c I had shopping to do and nothing.So I went to my local trading post and they had tons so if you have a shop like that around you,you have a good chance.The clerk says Rolling Stone doesn't sell the way it used to b/c of the internet and has not seen so many hard copies sold in years:angel:
I can see why they are not selling .Look at the newsstand price .$4.99 a copy.
teedeerocks
01-19-2015, 08:55 AM
I can see why they are not selling .Look at the newsstand price .$4.99 a copy.
And skimpy as hell!I was shocked b/c the last RS I actually looked at was in newspaper-style,not magazine style.Just not the same......oops I just showed my age:p
Machu
01-19-2015, 11:37 AM
I wonder if this was takin towards the end of the shoot .Maybe she was getting tired or tired from the night before of work .She looks tired in this photo.
I'd say it just hasn't been retouched like the others. If that's the "before" pic then she looks great! Better than Madonna's unretouched photos at least.
Jondalar
01-19-2015, 12:15 PM
Stevie is trending on Yahoo, yet again.
welcomechris
01-19-2015, 12:18 PM
Funny how Gypsy sales haven't increased at all. It's not even on iTunes Rock Singles
BlueDenimLamp
01-19-2015, 12:23 PM
Stevie is trending on Yahoo, yet again.
http://i1361.photobucket.com/albums/r663/Nicksiannation/sny_zpsd72b7c90.png
Right you are.
Macfanforever
01-19-2015, 12:41 PM
I'd say it just hasn't been retouched like the others. If that's the "before" pic then she looks great! Better than Madonna's unretouched photos at least.
OK.She does look great there even tired.
And skimpy as hell!I was shocked b/c the last RS I actually looked at was in newspaper-style,not magazine style.Just not the same......oops I just showed my age:p
Its like all mags .I agree .They ruined TV Guide when they went to the bigger format and loaded it with the fluff.
They are getting thinner and thinner with more averts and they are killing themselves in the long run.
twinmatrix
01-19-2015, 01:50 PM
I'd say it just hasn't been retouched like the others. If that's the "before" pic then she looks great! Better than Madonna's unretouched photos at least.
Madonna looks beautiful unretouched
teedeerocks
01-19-2015, 03:34 PM
http://i1361.photobucket.com/albums/r663/Nicksiannation/sny_zpsd72b7c90.png
Right you are.
Why is she trending?She's not trending now in my neck of the woods.Maybe she was earlier and I missed it.
MikeInNV
01-19-2015, 03:45 PM
Why is she trending?She's not trending now in my neck of the woods.Maybe she was earlier and I missed it.
When I got up this morning, she was No. 3 and Fleetwood Mac was No. 4. When I clicked on each, the Stevie stories were all related to the RS article, and for FM it was Mick falling ill at the Lincoln show.
J.Miller
01-19-2015, 10:25 PM
At first when I saw Stevie being on the cover I thought it was not real. As I read on in this thread I became very thrilled that Stevie is going to be on the cover of RS. I have read the article and have seen the Gypsy video numerous times. I was hoping for this when Stevie released her last two albums. This is really a surprise. Now to find that copy of Rolling Stone.
Machu
01-19-2015, 10:52 PM
Madonna looks beautiful unretouched
I will say that wasn't very nice of me. But of course, beauty is subjective.
KarmaContestant
01-19-2015, 11:10 PM
Stevie's going to make me buy a hot water bottle.
Michele
:laugh: My grandma had one when I was a kid. That thing was awesome! But then the heating pad was invented.
Is this issue out in Canada yet or am I just having bad luck? I went to two stores today trying to find it, but all they had were the ones with Nicki Minaj on the cover.
Macfanforever
01-20-2015, 03:01 PM
I just got my mailed copy today.I'm surprised it does not looked like it went through the wringer like most mags do by the time they are delivered.
I will archive the other copy.
Macfanforever
01-20-2015, 03:12 PM
:laugh: My grandma had one when I was a kid. That thing was awesome! But then the heating pad was invented.
Stevie's going to make me buy a hot water bottle.
Michele
I could of used one when I was eating those freeze dried chicken ramen noodle soups for lunch like they were going out of style.
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I was lucky the lunch rooms at the jobs sites had microwave ovens to heat the water.
Now everything adds up when you get old and with high blood pressure now I stay away from those soups because of the high salt content.
I still could use one for hot cocoa or tea.
michelej1
01-20-2015, 10:16 PM
I could of used one when I was eating those freeze dried chicken ramen noodle soups for lunch like they were going out of style.
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I was lucky the lunch rooms at the jobs sites had microwave ovens to heat the water.
Now everything adds up when you get old and with high blood pressure now I stay away from those soups because of the high salt content.
I still could use one for hot cocoa or tea.
No not as a thermos, but more to apply to your body parts for warmth or pain relief. Michele
Macfanforever
01-20-2015, 10:47 PM
No not as a thermos, but more to apply to your body parts for warmth or pain relief. Michele
Oops Ok.Need one for my always cold hands and feet this time of the year.never mind my aching back.
Macfanforever
01-20-2015, 10:54 PM
I just got my mailed copy today.I'm surprised it does not looked like it went through the wringer like most mags do by the time they are delivered.
I will archive the other copy.
I just notice the cover is alittle different with her name text at the bottom on the mailed issue.They swopped the store bar code with the mailing addy so they crammed the print to the right in order to fit it.It looks like crap .
teedeerocks
01-21-2015, 12:36 AM
My local Walmart now has the Stevie RS just to let you know so those who said their local Walmart didn't have it before,they might now:]
Danielle
01-21-2015, 11:19 AM
Another gorgeous outtake:
http://s25.postimg.org/q7f7t5dcv/00001.png
bombaysaffires
01-21-2015, 03:01 PM
Another gorgeous outtake:
http://s25.postimg.org/q7f7t5dcv/00001.png
great shot of her and not a typical Stevie pose.. but, seriously, when I looked really quickly at first it appeared as if there was a chunk missing out of the leg on the right (her left leg, actually)....:lol: something about the way the top hangs down wider than her leggings and then the top of the boot jutting out. :eek:
SisterNightroad
01-21-2015, 03:18 PM
great shot of her and not a typical Stevie pose.. but, seriously, when I looked really quickly at first it appeared as if there was a chunk missing out of the leg on the right (her left leg, actually)....:lol: something about the way the top hangs down wider than her leggings and then the top of the boot jutting out. :eek:
Stevie really slim down these past months!
I haven't noticed since she wears all those loose-fitting tops but her legs are slender...
wheart
01-21-2015, 04:56 PM
Another gorgeous outtake:
http://s25.postimg.org/q7f7t5dcv/00001.png
WOW! very nice. looks like she's got the tall boots on with leggings. that's somewhat different. Usually it's the pants. I'm glad they did her hair big for this photo shoot! :thumbsup:
annabellee
01-21-2015, 07:31 PM
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ON THE EDGE OF SEVENTY.
THAT should have been the cover story. Sorry if I didn't read through the thread and someone else posted. If so, then consider this a bump!
J.Miller
01-21-2015, 09:36 PM
After a long days work my wife(LauraTN) went to Barnes&Nobel and picked up two copies. Thanks,honey. The extra copy I will try to find a frame for.
bombaysaffires
01-21-2015, 09:46 PM
Love her charm of her signature wild heart with wings done in diamonds...
bombaysaffires
01-22-2015, 01:57 AM
“You can go onstage and have a bit of a love affair,” Nicks says, “and when you go back to your separate dressing rooms, it’s over. But while you’re on the stage, it’s real. ”
Re-reading the article, I think this says it all.
The Catdancer
01-22-2015, 07:10 AM
“You can go onstage and have a bit of a love affair,” Nicks says, “and when you go back to your separate dressing rooms, it’s over. But while you’re on the stage, it’s real. ”
Re-reading the article, I think this says it all.
But didn't she say that the whole lovey-dovey thing during the SYW tour was an act??? So now it was all real? I don't think she herself knows the difference anymore... :rolleyes:
bombaysaffires
01-22-2015, 03:53 PM
But didn't she say that the whole lovey-dovey thing during the SYW tour was an act??? So now it was all real? I don't think she herself knows the difference anymore... :rolleyes:
hmmm… I don't recall, but she could have
Lindsey certainly did.
Macfanforever
01-23-2015, 02:18 PM
Alittle time off on the keyboard here.As I was paying my gas bill Wednesday I grabbed another copy of RS while I was at ShopRite.I think it was their last copy.They still had a couple of strays of Nicki M RS still there from the week before.
I cant miss out of this op of having her on the cover .It maybe the last time for my lifetime.Hope I'm wrong.
Wow.I love that last outtake.
Inside .Madonna looks cute with her hat too.
I was thinking I hope she put the word in for having the Mac on the cover soon.
rainy_sunday
01-27-2015, 10:06 AM
I second that. Nothing against Vanessa tho.
A Florence Welch and Stevie Nicks collab would be wonderful. Passionate, dark and witchy... And it'd be especially interesting to hear how their voices go together, seeing as they both have voices that aren't 'traditionally pretty'. I can just imagine the wailing and the twirling of chiffon... :rolleyes:
APerfectLie
01-27-2015, 10:16 PM
Anyone know where I can get a poster of the cover? My bf has a poster Zac Efron's RS cover hanging in our closet so I feel Zac needs some company :P
sorcerer999
01-28-2015, 01:02 AM
My bf has a poster Zac Efron's RS cover hanging in our closet so I feel Zac needs some company :P
Zac Efron in the closet, huh? :D
Danielle
02-02-2015, 09:04 PM
Peggy Sirota has shared larger copies of two of the outtakes she'd posted on instagram:
http://s25.postimg.org/q595z2qcf/002.jpg
http://s25.postimg.org/9607jtf4v/001.jpg
michelej1
02-03-2015, 03:07 PM
^This is really funny, because it looks like the men are reacting to Stevie's straddled position.
Michele
soul_drifter333
02-04-2015, 08:20 PM
^ Like the many, many men before them have. :sorry:
^This is really funny, because it looks like the men are reacting to Stevie's straddled position.
Michele
bombaysaffires
02-05-2015, 12:53 AM
she used to wow them by doing a split right there on the floor…. now it's straddling. whatever it takes. :D
olive
02-05-2015, 09:20 AM
^This is really funny, because it looks like the men are reacting to Stevie's straddled position.
Michele
even funnier because they are probably gay :]
olive
02-05-2015, 03:35 PM
“You can go onstage and have a bit of a love affair,” Nicks says, “and when you go back to your separate dressing rooms, it’s over. But while you’re on the stage, it’s real. ”
Re-reading the article, I think this says it all.
what is there to read (into )
they are ex lovers who are part of a multi million dollar business they do their part , they get their pay check and go home it's a job and all the professional life / stage show is an illusion , isn't that what most people are paying for
Macfanforever
02-18-2015, 11:36 PM
Stevie's cover story was in RS's correspondence section this week.
Some nice words from 3 fans.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b82/steviefan1/StevieNickscorrrs1229_zps200f787c.jpg (http://s17.photobucket.com/user/steviefan1/media/StevieNickscorrrs1229_zps200f787c.jpg.html)
Danielle
02-19-2015, 06:14 AM
Thank you, Skip. :)
bombaysaffires
02-19-2015, 03:48 PM
what is there to read (into )
they are ex lovers who are part of a multi million dollar business they do their part , they get their pay check and go home it's a job and all the professional life / stage show is an illusion , isn't that what most people are paying for
thank you, that was exactly my point. :thumbsup:
gldstwmn
02-21-2015, 11:59 AM
But didn't she say that the whole lovey-dovey thing during the SYW tour was an act???
You have to remember that whatever happened right before that tour with the album made Stevie never want to record with Lindsey again. Not on a serious level anyway. That's the real burning question of the Fleetwood Mac saga in this century. What exactly did happen? "I hear the islands calling. I hear angry words flying across the ocean like some seabirds - never stopping. I feel my blood racing. I can't believe what you are saying. I used to love you so much."
I think she might have told him she didn't like his production and he might have told her he thought her songs sucked. Or vice versa. What a phone call that must have been. Yikes.
gldstwmn
02-21-2015, 12:01 PM
^ Like the many, many men before them have. :sorry:
+10........ :laugh: :thumbsup:
teedeerocks
02-21-2015, 04:03 PM
^ Like the many, many men before them have. :sorry:
All I can say is.........BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAA/snort snort!She looks so prim and proper in that photo,considering her position.A follow-up song to "Fall From Grace" perhaps."Sometimes,you just f**k with grace".:nod:
bombaysaffires
02-21-2015, 05:56 PM
You have to remember that whatever happened right before that tour with the album made Stevie never want to record with Lindsey again. Not on a serious level anyway. That's the real burning question of the Fleetwood Mac saga in this century. What exactly did happen? "I hear the islands calling. I hear angry words flying across the ocean like some seabirds - never stopping. I feel my blood racing. I can't believe what you are saying. I used to love you so much."
I think she might have told him she didn't like his production and he might have told her he thought her songs sucked. Or vice versa. What a phone call that must have been. Yikes.
no the conversation I really want to know about is the one around the time he left.
i can't find the audio, but there *is* audio somewhere of her saying that she and Lindsey had the conversation (then) that they never should have had. She says she said things to him she wishes she hadn't but can never take back and he said things to her he can never take back, and that their relationship couldn't be ever back on track because of it.
michelej1
02-21-2015, 09:42 PM
no the conversation I really want to know about is the one around the time he left.
i can't find the audio, but there *is* audio somewhere of her saying that she and Lindsey had the conversation (then) that they never should have had. She says she said things to him she wishes she hadn't but can never take back and he said things to her he can never take back, and that their relationship couldn't be ever back on track because of it.
She said in 1991,
It was horrifying for both of us. We said too much to each other. We said all the things that we had wanted to say for the last ten years, and we screamed at each other. Those things in a relationship that you try to never say just in case you do get back together? We said those things. Lindsey and I had been going together from about 1971 to 1976. But we never really broke up until that moment. We've since patched up our friendship, because Lindsey is far too important to my life not to do that, but the creative ties are behind us.
teedeerocks
02-22-2015, 12:43 AM
She said in 1991,
When Stevie said that they screamed at each other things that you try to never say to someone just in case you get back together makes me think that they were throwing stones at each other about sexual things - unsatisfactory sexual things,if you get my drift....
gldstwmn
02-22-2015, 11:24 AM
no the conversation I really want to know about is the one around the time he left.
i can't find the audio, but there *is* audio somewhere of her saying that she and Lindsey had the conversation (then) that they never should have had. She says she said things to him she wishes she hadn't but can never take back and he said things to her he can never take back, and that their relationship couldn't be ever back on track because of it.
I do think that was all about their personal relationship and all the things they had ever wanted to say but couldn't because of their huge success. At that point, she was still willing to work with him. He'd just produced a top ten album for Fleetwood Mac.
The second fight is all about their musical relationship, which is far more interesting to me at this point. None of them has ever really said anything about what went down with Say You Will/Double Suicide. I'm intrigued.
gldstwmn
02-22-2015, 11:25 AM
When Stevie said that they screamed at each other things that you try to never say to someone just in case you get back together makes me think that they were throwing stones at each other about sexual things - unsatisfactory sexual things,if you get my drift....
Lousy lovers...
David
02-22-2015, 12:22 PM
You have to remember that whatever happened right before that tour with the album made Stevie never want to record with Lindsey again. Not on a serious level anyway. That's the real burning question of the Fleetwood Mac saga in this century. What exactly did happen?
I think she was mad that he ran her vocal through a phaser or a flanger, which only emphasized an already nasal noise. If he had done that to me, I'd have walloped him one.
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