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secret love
12-20-2014, 08:07 AM
Hello all,

Just another setlist thread - but, do you think they will change the set up a bit for 2015 or at least for Europe and Australia/NZ (Oceania) ?

What could go and other than the Rumours staples what do you think is a new " must stay"? Seven Wonders?

Could Dreams finally be cut after surpassing its use-by date so much that is that song was a carton of milk, it would now be cottage cheese? :p
:sorry: but it's true!

Could three or four new songs be added a la The Dance? Say, How I Feel, Too Far Gone, Carnival Begin, Red Sun and Stevie's new one or similar? (My Mothers Rings> there was a brief mention of a different song title a while back, too)

Is The Dealer even in play as a possibility? Or Watch Chain? Twisted? (A new old song instead of Stand Back)

Would the encores change by the time they start Europe? Would the second last song change?

Anyway, your thoughts always amaze and interest me Ledgies.

Cheers
James

nicole21290
12-20-2014, 08:22 AM
Hello all,

Just another setlist thread - but, do you think they will change the set up a bit for 2015 or at least for Europe and Australia/NZ (Oceania) ?

No.

Thus rendering the rest of questions a touch irrelevant, unfortunately. Honestly, it would be lovely if they did but I think there's about a 0.01% chance of the setlist changing for next year.

welcomechris
12-20-2014, 08:31 AM
Hello all,

Just another setlist thread - but, do you think they will change the set up a bit for 2015 or at least for Europe and Australia/NZ (Oceania) ?

What could go and other than the Rumours staples what do you think is a new " must stay"? Seven Wonders?

Could Dreams finally be cut after surpassing its use-by date so much that is that song was a carton of milk, it would now be cottage cheese? :p
:sorry: but it's true!

Could three or four new songs be added a la The Dance? Say, How I Feel, Too Far Gone, Carnival Begin, Red Sun and Stevie's new one or similar? (My Mothers Rings> there was a brief mention of a different song title a while back, too)

Is The Dealer even in play as a possibility? Or Watch Chain? Twisted? (A new old song instead of Stand Back)

Would the encores change by the time they start Europe? Would the second last song change?

Anyway, your thoughts always amaze and interest me Ledgies.

Cheers
James

Sara was a lot more successful in Australia & NZ so I'd hope they switched Seven Wonders for sara

secret love
12-20-2014, 08:35 AM
No.

Thus rendering the rest of questions a touch irrelevant, unfortunately. Honestly, it would be lovely if they did but I think there's about a 0.01% chance of the setlist changing for next year.

Well we should still do this thread as a hypothetical then. Like all setlist threads!

It is unfortunate that they are continuing with a very stale set. I like the Christine songs added in and Seven Wonders as well as I Know I'm not Wrong but to be honest most of Stevie's songs especially Sisters of the Moon should be changed, except for Landslide/Rhiannon/Gold Dust Woman/Dreams.

The latter should have gone already a long time ago - Dreams should have had its last airings in 2003/2004 and could have been swapped for I Don't Want to Know or Secret Love (for 2013 Tour).

Anyway...my choices would be:
drop Dreams
Keep Seven Wonders
add in I Don't Want to Know
add in four new songs (Stevie can do The Dealer/Watch Chain/Twisted if she has nothing ready that is brand new)
Two of the new songs would be Too Far Gone and How I Feel by Christine with her singing presumably
The other one or two from Lindsey could be Carnival Begin, Red Sun, Is it Right, Hunger or Up Your Speed

All those titles are on ASCAP because Christine and Lindsey really have finished those and the only change would be putting Stevie Nicks' voice on them (forget about her if she doesn't want to participate, please! :lol:)

Yeah that's all I can think of for now. Don't know what to take out to add in 4-6 new songs.

Maybe trade the following new for the old that comes after them:
1. Red Sun for Big Love
2. Carnival Begin for I Know I'm Not Wrong
3. How I Feel for Sisters of the Moon
4. Angel for Dreams
5. Twisted for any Stevie song that is not the essential track that is, Gold Dust Woman
6. Too Far Gone added in to the set with nothing taken out (pushing set list from 23 songs to 24 songs)
7. Walk a Thin Line (25th song)
8. Think About Me (26th song)

If 26 was too much they could leave out the Tusk deep cuts or alternate them on a fortnightly basis with the new songs. :nod:

FuzzyPlum
12-20-2014, 08:46 AM
No I don't believe they will change the set.
I don't think they'd play any new material- if they were going to do the new material they'd have already played something on the US leg by now. As a hunch I'd guess they'd love to play something new but Stevie may be dead against it (as per album discussion).
If they change anything then the only likelihood may be bringing in one PG-era song as a nod to their UK/European roots; Oh Well for IKINW (but as they havent played any of that recently I honestly cant see it happening now).
95% sure there'll be no change.

Macfan4life
12-20-2014, 08:50 AM
There is no need to change the setlist. Its a great setlist. Just because we are in the age of social media and after 2 months of touring the fans are bored with the setlist after watching all the youtube shows...its crazy to think they must change a setlist after 2 months. Would I like to see a few changes...sure. But I give the current setlist a B++. My only regret is that Chris has no deep cuts like Stevie and Lindsey. Chris is also the only singer not singing anything off Tusk. But remember that Chris had most of the hits so she is letting them play out.

Wdm6789
12-20-2014, 09:33 AM
Brown Eyes would have been nice or Over and Over, unlikely, but Christine should have had a Tusk song in there. I hate that Mirage gets no love. Gypsy, of course, but this would have been the perfect opportunity to resurrect Hold Me. I also would much rather have Eyes of the World or Not That Funny with Christine on the keys over I Know I'm Not Wrong. Take out Silver Springs and replace with Sara, seeing Sara live in person with Christine on the piano would have been life completion for me lol. I know World Turning is a Lindsey and Christine song but Blue Letter would have been much more exciting to me since they have still done World Turning on tours without Christine.

WelshWitchPMD
12-20-2014, 10:05 AM
Mick has said that he would love to add Oh Daddy to the set list and that he is really pushing for it for next year.
He said this on November 1st so I'm sure things are subject to change. Maybe if someone is going to the Tampa meet and greet they might want to ask him.

bethelblues
12-20-2014, 10:17 AM
Why should they drop Dreams if she's singing it like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jl2W7cb9tmc

They are not going to change the set. I'd be shocked if they did.

Hold Me could be an interesting addition. As we know, Lindsey and Stevie missed opportunities to showcase their voices together before Chris returned. There really is no excuse that I Don't Want to Know, Angel, Crystal, and a few more of the Say You Will Songs haven't been done live.

I do not want to hear Eyes of the World or Not That Funny. I heard them in 2013...Lindsey has way better songs that should re-emerge: Blue Letter is fantastic--I agree with that mention. What Makes You Think of the One is a very good fast song. I've always felt he could do a Tusk medley of 2-3 songs, but the Mac sure doesn't like to do medleys and have never even tried to make them work.

I bet Christine wouldn't even be playing piano if they played Sara. Bret would continue.

I will always advocate for an expanded acoustic middle section. I want acoustic Gypsy so bad...it would give a whole new life to the song. I think an acoustic Honey Hi would be fantastic, with the three leads positioned very close to each other. Maybe that is also where Oh Daddy could fit in. In all likelihood, it will replace Over My Head, though OMH sounds pretty great. I'd LOVE if they added a song, or moved Don't Stop to after So Afraid and added Blue Letter to the encores.

BigAl84
12-20-2014, 10:43 AM
Why should they drop Dreams if she's singing it like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jl2W7cb9tmc




Agreed. I'm so glad I was at that show and able to see that awesome performance of dreams. It gives the Dance version a run for its money.

Macfan4life
12-20-2014, 11:02 AM
I have tickets for the next leg of the tour next year. So of course any change I would welcome. But I doubt it will happen. They would have to practice again. But who knows. I notice from watching several youtube videos shot behind Chris that she plays much less keyboards as one would think. Even the beginning of Say you love me seems programmed. I welcome any changes but doubt it will happen.

michelej1
12-20-2014, 03:31 PM
Mick has said that he would love to add Oh Daddy to the set list and that he is really pushing for it for next year.


I vote NO! I'd sooner they add Sugar Daddy than Oh, Daddy. I've endured that song enough for one lifetime and the set doesn't need another slow song.

Michele

SteveMacD
12-20-2014, 05:37 PM
Take out OMH and put in "Isn't It Midnight." Also, rearrange the list so it flows better.

James89
12-20-2014, 07:52 PM
Take out OMH and put in "Isn't It Midnight." Also, rearrange the list so it flows better.

OMG, completely agree! :thumbsup: I can't stop listening to Isn't it Midnight recently and I think it would work brilliantly live. It was fantastic live back in 1987 and I think it would be a welcome addition to the setlist now.

Over My Head is one of those songs live where I just lose interest. It sounds harsh but compared to a lot of the songs in the set I feel as though it takes all of the high energy away and sticks out awkwardly.

Isn't it Midnight would be amazing! :)

BLY
12-20-2014, 08:08 PM
The MAC needs to finish the album ( which can be done during the break) and add 4 new songs replacing;

Sisters of the Moon
Over My Head
I know I'm Not Wrong
Second Hand News

It can be done. The new album needs to be out for the second leg.

mottabam
12-21-2014, 06:44 PM
Take out OMH and put in "Isn't It Midnight." Also, rearrange the list so it flows better.

Would love to hear "Isn't it Midnight" or "Think About Me".

I have a floor ticket to Orlando on the next leg. Going to wait and see if any set list changes coming in 2015. If not, I'll most likely sell the ticket. Even though the band seemed to be playing better than ever I simply don't feel it will be worth the trek to see the exact same show with all the exact speeches and acoustic set again. This will be a first for me since 1982 if I only see them once this tour.

Wdm6789
12-21-2014, 06:50 PM
Would love to hear "Isn't it Midnight" or "Think About Me".

I have a floor ticket to Orlando on the next leg. Going to wait and see if any set list changes coming in 2015. If not, I'll most likely sell the ticket. Even though the band seemed to be playing better than ever I simply don't feel it will be worth the trek to see the exact same show with all the exact speeches and acoustic set again. This will be a first for me since 1982 if I only see them once this tour.


So you saw them on the Mirage tour? That is awesome. So you got to see Hold Me live, that is awesome as well. I'm really jealous. I wish we could see the video of the full Fleetwood Mac set from the US festival.

mottabam
12-21-2014, 07:01 PM
So you saw them on the Mirage tour? That is awesome. So you got to see Hold Me live, that is awesome as well. I'm really jealous. I wish we could see the video of the full Fleetwood Mac set from the US festival.

1 show for the Mirage tour. Had to absolutely BEG my uncle to take me. Although I can remember the stage, and the band of course, my recollection of the event now is somewhat foggy, I just remember being totally awestruck and in love with Stevie and the music in general. I wanted to go to the Tusk Tour but my parents said it was out of the question, I was only 11 years old then, they thought I was crazy liking "their" music. Ironically enough, the same uncle gladly took me to the Wildheart tour in 83? We missed Stevie's first solo tour. By the time of the Tango album I was driving all over the Northeast and beyond hitting multiple shows from there on out, FMAC and Stevie solo.

WayOfTheDragon
12-21-2014, 09:43 PM
I don't expect them to make any changes, but if it were up to me:

I'd add 2 more Christine songs. I wouldn't replace any of her songs that are already in the set, because they are all highlights on this tour (even Over My Head-- which I didn't think was going to be a high point-- sounds great on this tour: it totally captures a sunny, laid back, 70s California mood, and really sounds like classic Mac). As for which songs I'd add, Hold Me is my first choice, plus one of the following:

Isn't It Midnight
Think About Me
Brown Eyes
Never Make Me Cry
Love In Store
Honey Hi

There are just so many Chris songs I want to hear live, and that's not even counting the pre-1975 songs. And I'd like more Tusk and Mirage representation in the set, especially her songs. Songs such as Hold Me & Think About Me highlight the vocal interaction between Chris & Lindsey, so it makes sense to include songs like these. Part of the reason I like Little Lies so much on this tour is the interaction between the 3 voices (the end of Say You Love Me has it, too)-- and I'd like to see them milking that aspect as much as possible. Oh Daddy is my absolute least favorite choice-- I'd prefer something high-energy or something that wasn't on The Dance set list.

Also: I'd replace Silver Springs with Sara. I'd either get rid of Rhiannon entirely or have it in a very different version (such as a piano version with Christine on piano). I'd like to see Blue Letter as the first encore, in place of World Turning.

I like LB's song choices, though I'd change the acoustic set somehow to put in some variety. I vote for an acoustic version of Bleed To Love Her similar to his 2012 tour version.

PenguinHead
12-22-2014, 03:52 AM
OMG, completely agree! :thumbsup: I can't stop listening to Isn't it Midnight recently and I think it would work brilliantly live. It was fantastic live back in 1987 and I think it would be a welcome addition to the setlist now.

Over My Head is one of those songs live where I just lose interest. It sounds harsh but compared to a lot of the songs in the set I feel as though it takes all of the high energy away and sticks out awkwardly.

Isn't it Midnight would be amazing! :)

I agree! Isn't It Midnight is strong album track contender. Yet I think it is highly unlikely that any new songs will be performed; That presumption that those songs are fleshed out is pretty far out. I assume they are still on the drawing board. It's doubtful they will make any significant changes to the set list. You have to be nuts to assume they would even consider to perform any of Stevie's new solo songs. I congratulate them for vetoing Stand Back; it isn't missed. No particular song is vital to a great show.

Dreams really should be given a rest because it's tired and overworked. Stop dragging that song around!

My wish list...it was just a wish.

Isn't it Midnight
Warm Ways
You'll Never Make Me Cry
Hold Me
Why
Crystal
That's Alright
Straight Back
Frozen Love
Fireflies
I Don't Want to Know
Can't Go Back
Walk a Thin Line
Trouble
Tango In The Night
Sad Angel

secret love
12-22-2014, 03:54 AM
Agreed. I'm so glad I was at that show and able to see that awesome performance of dreams. It gives the Dance version a run for its money.

I have come to believe that Stevie has most probably had plastic surgery to repair the hole in her nasal septum. A deviated septum (is that the right name for it - who knows) would change her vocal quality. The Crystal Visions Tour performance of Dreams on the Live in Chicago DVD was extremely nasal.

She would not have lost her intense nasal twang without surgical repair of the hole in her nose. Good on her if she did get the surgery because ****, it worked, didn't it? :thumbsup:

secret love
12-22-2014, 04:02 AM
Would love to hear "Isn't it Midnight" or "Think About Me".

I have a floor ticket to Orlando on the next leg. Going to wait and see if any set list changes coming in 2015. If not, I'll most likely sell the ticket. Even though the band seemed to be playing better than ever I simply don't feel it will be worth the trek to see the exact same show with all the exact speeches and acoustic set again. This will be a first for me since 1982 if I only see them once this tour.

Count yourself lucky that you have seen them at all! In February 2004 I think they were in Sydney, well I was 10 years old and didn't know anything about them. In late 2009 again I wasn't a fan at 16 years old.

In 2013 I had four tickets as a birthday present from Dad.

Then John had to go and get cancer, the bastard!

Now they are delaying Australia to the very end of their tour as always because we are like the poor cousin of Canada to them, like some decaying long-fawned over 51st state of the USA.

John Howard would have married your ex President George W. Bush if he wasn't so stridently anti-gay. Howard who lauded himself as such a great believer in families, who believe in middle-class welfare and cutting boat people adrift, who believed in demonising gay men and women by specifically passing amendments to put in the Marriage Act a requirement for the two consenting adults to be opposite sexes.

Howard who honestly believed that the typographical error that led Bush and him to invade Iraq instead of IraN was an excuse for that horrible flawed War on Terror that looks to have achieved a little but not much with this ISIL death cult (our PM Tony Abbott's words, not my words) flourishing in Sydney and in Cairns.

Sorry. A bit too political there.

J

Ali
12-22-2014, 08:56 AM
I doubt they'll add anything new but they have to move Silver Springs. It's such a buzzkill in its current location. If it must be an encore, move it before World Turning.

wheart
12-23-2014, 08:48 AM
I highly doubt any changes will be made to the setlist but here are my suggestions:

Add: Hold Me, Brown Eyes, Beautiful Child, Why, Monday Morning or Blue Letter,Honey Hi, Oh Well

Drop: Seven Wonders, SOTM, Big Love, Second Hand News, I'm So Afraid, Little Lies

Macfanforever
12-23-2014, 12:07 PM
I hope they add "HOLD ME" and shorten World Turning.Sorry Mick.It gets boring at times.I do enjoy Mick's solo every time.

A big FAT NO on anything new from what ever was recorded already on the new album but open for surprises.

Andy Man
12-23-2014, 12:55 PM
I do not think that it will change at all. If it does, though, it will only slightly. Here is what I would like to see:

01. The Chain
02. You Make Loving Fun
03. Dreams
04. Second Hand News
05. Rhiannon
06. Everywhere
07. I Know I'm Not Wrong
08. Think About Me
09. Tusk
10. Sara
11. Say You Love Me
12. Seven Wonders
13. Big Love
14. Landslide
15. Never Going Back Again
16. Hold Me
17. Gypsy
18. Little Lies
19. Gold Dust Woman
20. I'm So Afraid
21. Go Your Own Way

22. World Turning
23. Don't Stop
24. Silver Springs

25. Songbird

The addition of a CM Tusk song, and Hold Me would be perfect!

jbrownsjr
12-23-2014, 01:11 PM
I do not think that it will change at all. If it does, though, it will only slightly. Here is what I would like to see:

01. The Chain
02. You Make Loving Fun
03. Dreams
04. Second Hand News
05. Rhiannon
06. Everywhere
07. I Know I'm Not Wrong
08. Think About Me
09. Tusk
10. Sara
11. Say You Love Me
12. Seven Wonders
13. Big Love
14. Landslide
15. Never Going Back Again
16. Hold Me
17. Gypsy
18. Little Lies
19. Gold Dust Woman
20. I'm So Afraid
21. Go Your Own Way

22. World Turning
23. Don't Stop
24. Silver Springs

25. Songbird

The addition of a CM Tusk song, and Hold Me would be perfect!

Love this!

secret love
12-23-2014, 05:16 PM
I do not think that it will change at all. If it does, though, it will only slightly. Here is what I would like to see:

01. The Chain
02. You Make Loving Fun
03. Dreams
04. Second Hand News
05. Rhiannon
06. Everywhere
07. I Know I'm Not Wrong
08. Think About Me
09. Tusk
10. Sara
11. Say You Love Me
12. Seven Wonders
13. Big Love
14. Landslide
15. Never Going Back Again
16. Hold Me
17. Gypsy
18. Little Lies
19. Gold Dust Woman
20. I'm So Afraid
21. Go Your Own Way

22. World Turning
23. Don't Stop
24. Silver Springs

25. Songbird

The addition of a CM Tusk song, and Hold Me would be perfect!

This would make a great set list and does not require massive changes...so it could still happen!

My wish though is for two or three new songs.

I would like one new song from Lindsey (even Miss Fantasy), one new song from Christine (preferably Too Far Gone from the 2014 studio sessions) and either Angel from Stevie or a song from 24 Karat Gold - maybe Twisted or The Dealer.

By the way, if the band drops this huge hit; then we will have confirmation that they have all gone senile!

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bethelblues
12-23-2014, 06:14 PM
I do not think that it will change at all. If it does, though, it will only slightly. Here is what I would like to see:

01. The Chain
02. You Make Loving Fun
03. Dreams
04. Second Hand News
05. Rhiannon
06. Everywhere
07. I Know I'm Not Wrong
08. Think About Me
09. Tusk
10. Sara
11. Say You Love Me
12. Seven Wonders
13. Big Love
14. Landslide
15. Never Going Back Again
16. Hold Me
17. Gypsy
18. Little Lies
19. Gold Dust Woman
20. I'm So Afraid
21. Go Your Own Way

22. World Turning
23. Don't Stop
24. Silver Springs

25. Songbird

The addition of a CM Tusk song, and Hold Me would be perfect!

Well done! You made slight and very feasible changes that make the set quite engaging for a second leg. With adjustments, I'm sure fans would be more than willing to attend a second go-around....otherwise I just don't see why you'd want to see the same exact show more than once (with no spontaneity at all). What annoys me is that Lindsey and Stevie haven't really shaken up their songs, when they have many to choose from.

Taking out Sisters of the Moon makes sense. I'd replace it with BEAUTIFUL CHILD over Sara...right now as she is singing, I think Beautiful Child is Stevie's best live song from Tusk. Rhiannon and Silver Springs also make sense...Rhiannon because it needs a rest (more than Dreams...see the Pittsburgh video on page 1 if you disagree), and Silver Springs because it's been in every tour since The Dance. Of course this is much less likely to happen than Sisters of the Moon, but could provide room for I DON'T WANT TO KNOW, the ever apt FIREFLIES, ANGEL, and/or CRYSTAL as an encore. That would be so welcome! And we're still getting Dreams, Gold Dust, Landslide, and Gypsy (the ACOUSTIC version would make my day).

Lindsey not doing many of his Tusk songs live, I just don't get it. It's his baby, the album. Why not do WHAT MAKES YOU THINK YOU'RE THE ONE as an uptempo song rather than I Know I'm Not Wrong or Not That Funny for every tour. THE LEDGE is so unique, it's like punk country. And WALK A THIN LINE is nice for a slow song. A medley could work, but experimentation and re-arranging take effort. Personally, I think a Say You Will song would be great for Second Hand News or Never Going Back Again. And BLUE LETTER would be a fantastic encore. Move Don't Stop to after So Afraid to be able to add a song at the end and make for greater highs at the end of the concert.

Obviously we want to hear everything from Christine. It's a win-win. Whether the set changes or whether it doesn't. She's killing it either way, and Over My Head sounds fantastic, especially the mini jam at the end; it's just not in the right place in the set. I'd love THINK ABOUT ME and HOLD ME because they feature all three voices together...and that's why LITTLE LIES is such a hit this tour. HONEY HI would be amazing in the acoustic section, another harmony song that would put all three singers front and center. I don't know why they don't really understand that this = concert showstopper. I love ISN'T IT MIDNIGHT as many others do too...if Christine wants a rocker substitution it would be perfect. Of course, WHY needs to return, but it deserves a better showcase that could really make the song resonate.

And this isn't even touching on bringing back an incredible Bob Welch or Peter Green song for old time's sake. There is an abundance of resources, one of the greatest back catalogues of any band. With all eras together it's Beatles/Stones caliber. It'll be disappointing if there's not one tweak or two.

Wdm6789
12-23-2014, 08:23 PM
See? Everyone wants Hold Me.

secret love
12-23-2014, 10:46 PM
See? Everyone wants Hold Me.

You can't always get what you want ...

WatchChain
12-26-2014, 10:59 AM
Fleetwood Mac played The Toyota Center on December 15. They have just announced a scheduled return to that same venue/city on March 3. If I am going to plop down $400 for two more seats a mere 11 weeks later, I think some changes to the set list are in order. If it's the same show, I'm afraid I'll have to sit this one out for the first time in my nearly 40 years as a Fleetwood Mac fan.

secret love
12-26-2014, 10:04 PM
Fleetwood Mac played The Toyota Center on December 15. They have just announced a scheduled return to that same venue/city on March 3. If I am going to plop down $400 for two more seats a mere 11 weeks later, I think some changes to the set list are in order. If it's the same show, I'm afraid I'll have to sit this one out for the first time in my nearly 40 years as a Fleetwood Mac fan.

I find it quite irritating when North American fans complain about a boring set list because they have seen the band half a dozen times over the past decade. Think of the Australians and the Kiwis/New Zealanders who missed out completely in 2013. For me and many others, that would have been the first time ever that we saw the band and they had even included two brand new songs and an old people comedy routine in the 2013 set list.

Unlikely now that I will ever hear Sad Angel or Without You performed live in front of my eyes!

I agree that the set list should be changed like it was for the second or third leg of Say You Will Tour in 2004 with additions like Red Rover, Don't Let me Down Again and the elusive Destiny Rules.

Great swaps or additions for 2015 would be Hold Me, Angel, Brown Eyes and Big Love performed as a group like the album version rather than the one man band version done in 1997, 2003, 2004, 2009, 2013 and 2014. If Christine's return really is so profound, the least Lindsey could do is sing Big Love with her and Stevie.

It seems highly unlikely, but two new songs as done in 2013 would also be welcome additions or swaps. The two titles that seem to get bandied about a lot for Christine in interviews are Too Far Gone and How I Feel, for Lindsey it is Red Sun and Carnival Begin. Stevie's only new song title I know of is My Mother's Rings but The Dealer or Lady would be a welcome addition to the 2015 set or could replace one of her more sedate and overused tunes.

bethelblues
12-27-2014, 09:00 AM
I agree that the set list should be changed like it was for the second or third leg of Say You Will Tour in 2004 with additions like Red Rover, Don't Let me Down Again and the elusive Destiny Rules.

Don't forget they also dropped Gypsy for Sara, which hadn't been performed in a long long time. They're not too good with cycling through all their great songs, are they?

secret love
12-28-2014, 07:45 AM
Don't forget they also dropped Gypsy for Sara, which hadn't been performed in a long long time. They're not too good with cycling through all their great songs, are they?

Not sure if you're being sarcastic or not, because Fleetwood Mac's setlist for 1997, 2003, 2004, 2009, 2013 and 2014 has contained all the same hit staples, just that in 2003 and 2004 there were eight new songs played from the Say You Will record (including the elusive duo Running Through the Garden and Destiny Rules which did not get much airtime from Stevie) and in 2009 and 2013 due to Christine's absence there were more deep cuts from Tusk like I Know I'm Not Wrong, Storms, Sisters of the Moon, Not That Funny...

I will say if I allowed myself a pure fantasy just for me set list and I had a cajillion dollars to make it a private party reality it would go something like this, somewhere bit hits and Rumours ...but not as predictable as the current setlist.

My Dream Set for 2015 On with the Show Tour by Fleetwood Mac

1. Say You Love Me
2. The Chain
3. You Make Loving Fun
4. Second Hand News
5. Dreams
6. I Don't Want to Know
7. Tusk
8. Brown Eyes
9. I Know I'm Not Wrong
10. Angel
11. Tango in the Night
12. Gold Dust Woman
13. Oh Daddy
14. Smile at You
15. Steal Your Heart Away
16. Bleed to Love Her
17. Too Far Gone (New Christine song)
18. Carnival Begin (New Lindsey song)
19. Little Lies
20. My Mother's Rings (New Stevie song)
21. Seven Wonders
22. Don't Stop
23. Go Your Own Way
24. Silver Springs
25. Songbird

PenguinHead
12-28-2014, 09:34 AM
Fleetwood Mac played The Toyota Center on December 15. They have just announced a scheduled return to that same venue/city on March 3. If I am going to plop down $400 for two more seats a mere 11 weeks later, I think some changes to the set list are in order. If it's the same show, I'm afraid I'll have to sit this one out for the first time in my nearly 40 years as a Fleetwood Mac fan.

I feel the same way. Yet Fleetwood Mac always sticks to their set-in-stone set list. If I were in a band, and was coming back around to the same venue/city, I'd feel the need to refresh the show, and not duplicate the same show to essentially the same audience.

For any tour, I think they see their set list like a play or a movie. Changing a scene or order of events just isn't an easy option. To be fair, most bands have a fixed set list when they tour. The difference is that some artists have more freedom to chose from a wider depth of their catalog in their set lists on their tours.

Artists like Tom Petty, Bruce Springsteen, or U2 -- because they have one main singer/songwriter -- have much more wiggle room. They don't have a "must play" list. Their sets aren't glutted with the same songs for decades, with the compulsion to drive all of their hits and familiar songs into the ground, and in the same sequence. Aside from a few classic hits, they are free to perform, among a few staples of well-known songs, deep tracks, cover songs, obscure songs, as well as new songs. Their fans understand and appreciate, expect and accept it.

Fleetwood Mac is a different animal, and their fan base has a slightly different dynamic. They have three distinct singer/songwriters, each with signature songs. That dynamic immediately constricts what they will perform. They have always been very conservative in their choices, with a tendency to stay on familiar grounds, rather than taking chances by venturing too far outside their comfort zone. Now, as a vintage band, their appeal generally leans to a vintage demographic. So they are less interested in testing their audiences, and more focused on pleasing them.

Macfan4life
12-28-2014, 09:47 AM
I don't think you can compare U2, Bruce Springsteen or Tom Petty to Fleetwood Mac and especially this tour. The Mac has 3 front singers and one went away for 10 years and they had a reunion in 1997 The Dance. That tour played the hits and it was a huge success. Then the singer who had the most hits with the Mac left for 16 years. She is back and playing the songs we have not heard live since the 1990's. Those other bands only had one singer who never left ;)

I saw them last year and seeing them again in 2015. If they play a few different songs, I would love that. But I am not expecting that. I am just so grateful to hear Chris's voice live again. She could talk for 90 minutes and I would still be happy. Is it my dream set list? No! But my dream set list would probably have people running for the aisles.
I feel like the band. It makes me so happy to see them so happy on stage. They sound amazing. The band has chemistry again with Chris singing and playing. We are the minority of the crazed fans. The vast majority of people buying tickets and going to the show are not Ledgies and they could not name one song prior to 1974 or any song off Tusk other than the hits. There is a demand for these songs and they are pleasing big time. I was just watching Youtube videos in Tampa. The entire arena was on its feet jumping up and down. It looked like a metal concert from the 1980's. As Lindsey said in the Red Beard interview.....the audience is on its feet the entire show "WE NEVER HAD THAT HAPPEN BEFORE.'

Ted57
12-28-2014, 11:25 AM
Having attended a couple shows in the first leg of the tour and with two more in March, I would naturally prefer to see at least a small change in the setlist. I seem to recall that they rehearsed several other songs back in August/September preparing for this tour so maybe they could add from that group. At the same time I am quite content to see these five musicians do whatever they want to do. I marvel at what they do at their age and with their history. They blow me away each and every time I see them. I was at the Tampa show and the energy there was off the charts. Lindsey is always on his game but the appreciation the audience had for him and his guitar that night was truly amazing!
It's probably a bit late at this point but I think it would be interesting if the Mac changed their setlist from show to show as Paul McCartney does, or at least did on his most recent tour. Paul interchanges about four songs from show to show. For example at the show I attended the opening song was Magical Mystery Tour while at alternating shows he opened with Eight Days a Week. The bad thing about doing this is that, for example, my favorite Beatle/McCartney song, Get Back, was not played at the concert I attended but was played at the venues before and after. I got stuck with I Saw Her Standing There in it's place. Imagine the disgruntled Mac fan whose favorite song is being played only at every other show and the show you attend happens to be the one where it is NOT played.:mad::eek:

Macfanforever
12-28-2014, 11:29 AM
You can't always get what you want ...

You never know.We got Sisters of the Moon maybe from all the requests on the internet and the meet and greets couple years ago and the Mac added it to the setlist.

michelej1
01-04-2015, 03:06 PM
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Those classic songs can be strangely underwhelming in concert but this tour should have more of a sense of occasion given the return of Christine McVie after a 16-year breather. Her change of heart opens up all sorts of possibilities. Will Bill Wyman resume his place on the bass for the Stones? Will Paul McCartney be giving Pete Best a call?


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Wdm6789
01-05-2015, 02:15 PM
If they can get Everywhere and Little Lies to work, what is preventing them from doing Hold Me? It would just need a little intro from Lindsey or Christine. Something like "here's a song from the Mirage album we haven't played since 1982, it's one of Christine's, you guys will remember it pretty quickly after we begin to play" or something like that.

chiliD
01-05-2015, 04:36 PM
... the Mac sure doesn't like to do medleys and have never even tried to make them work.

Oh...I don't know about that...the "Rattlesnake Shake > Fighting For Madge > Underway > Searching For Madge > Rattlesnake Shake" half-hour long medley was awesome in 1970. Oh, that's right...Lindsey Buckingham is no Peter Green. :shrug: :lol:

SteveMacD
01-10-2015, 12:04 AM
I'd love to hear an acoustic version of "Show Me A Smile." Just Lindsey on guitar and Christine on vocals.

SteveMacD
01-10-2015, 12:12 AM
Oh...I don't know about that...the "Rattlesnake Shake > Fighting For Madge > Underway > Searching For Madge > Rattlesnake Shake" half-hour long medley was awesome in 1970. Oh, that's right...Lindsey Buckingham is no Peter Green. :shrug: :lol:

Don't forget, Sentimental Lady -> Future Games or In The Back Of My Mind-> The Chain. Apparently, he's no Bob Welch or Rick Vito, either.

The only time Lindsey did that, to my knowledge, was that Rhiannon->GYOW->Don't Stop medley they did in 1998 at some award show.

BlueDenimLamp
01-10-2015, 12:38 AM
Oh...I don't know about that...the "Rattlesnake Shake > Fighting For Madge > Underway > Searching For Madge > Rattlesnake Shake" half-hour long medley was awesome in 1970. Oh, that's right...Lindsey Buckingham is no Peter Green . :shrug: :lol:

Don't forget, Sentimental Lady -> Future Games or In The Back Of My Mind-> The Chain. Apparently, he's no Bob Welch or Rick Vito, either.

The only time Lindsey did that, to my knowledge, was that Rhiannon->GYOW->Don't Stop medley they did in 1998 at some award show.

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Bob wasn't afraid to play the old Mac songs.

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Rick played them as well. What's LB's problem?
It would be great if FM played some of the early years / old blues tunes. This is a part of FM's history that's sadly been forgotten or simply ignored

FuzzyPlum
01-10-2015, 06:55 AM
I'd love to hear an acoustic version of "Show Me A Smile." Just Lindsey on guitar and Christine on vocals.

Oh yes please, that would be amazing.
Lindsey: 'Show Me A Smile? Who's that by?'

SteveMacD
01-11-2015, 01:14 AM
Not exactly relevant to this particular question, but I hope they add an August 6 show, preferably in New Orleans.

bethelblues
01-11-2015, 10:18 AM
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Bob wasn't afraid to play the old Mac songs.

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Rick played them as well. What's LB's problem?
It would be great if FM played some of the early years / old blues tunes. This is a part of FM's history that's sadly been forgotten or simply ignored

I think it's less LB is afraid to play the old Mac songs (he used to do them in the 70s) and more ego and the desire to get his own songs out there. You can find recordings of LB performing Green Manalishi, Oh Well, Hypnotized, Why, and others.

It's not just on LB. Stevie and Christine could take the vocals for one of the old songs. I always thought Christine would sound great on Black Magic Woman. It would be a nice way to interact with each other rather than just sing harmonies on someone else's song.

SteveMacD
01-11-2015, 12:42 PM
I think it's less LB is afraid to play the old Mac songs (he used to do them in the 70s) and more ego and the desire to get his own songs out there. You can find recordings of LB performing Green Manalishi, Oh Well, Hypnotized, Why, and others.

It's not just on LB. Stevie and Christine could take the vocals for one of the old songs. I always thought Christine would sound great on Black Magic Woman. It would be a nice way to interact with each other rather than just sing harmonies on someone else's song.
I Think Stevie could nail Hypnotized.

bethelblues
01-11-2015, 02:25 PM
Hypnotized is such an amazing song, one of the band's all-time best. I didn't like Lindsey's version. But would they ever do this again? They have enough background musicians now to nail it. Is there too much ill will toward Bob, old grudges, ego to only do their own material?

FuzzyPlum
01-11-2015, 02:43 PM
Hypnotized is such an amazing song, one of the band's all-time best. I didn't like Lindsey's version. But would they ever do this again? They have enough background musicians now to nail it. Is there too much ill will toward Bob, old grudges, ego to only do their own material?

I'd hazard a guess there's no chance. If they aren't going to play Hypnotized as a tribute after Bob's passing then they aren't going to start anytime soon. They still have it in their heads they must play 'hits'.
If Stevie quit (which I hope she doesn't) then a Mick, John, Lindsey, Christine lineup might have more scope for playing oldies.

elle
01-11-2015, 02:51 PM
they are not even doing their own material, aside from Rumours.

they just did 3 greatest hits tours in a row - if there ever was a time to do Oh Well, Black Magic Woman, Albatross, Hypnotized, etc, that would have been it (they did Oh Well in 2009, but not the latter 2 tours), so obviously it's not happening, unless they announce one huge all-FM-eras reunion. Mick had a lot of questions like that during m&gs, and what he would usually say is that he loves Peter and considers him the best guitarist that ever lived, and that he has tried that in the past, but Peter's health issues would not allow to reliably schedule any such performances or reunions.

so i don't really get all this righteousness and indignation of "why are they not doing other FM incarnations' songs". they are not doing even much of their own material, so why would one expect them to do someone else's? i just read on one of the other boards a question whether Peter Green's FM and BN FM should be considered 2 separate bands... in my opinion - yes. i was severely disappointed when i first heard that GH album in the early 90s featuring current FM incarnation - i expected songs similar to Peter Green era ones that i knew and loved, and that was nothing like what i heard. i listened to that album twice, couldn't believe my ears, and put it away for many many years, along with FM as a band i was absolutely not interested in.

elle
01-11-2015, 02:56 PM
I'd hazard a guess there's no chance. If they aren't going to play Hypnotized as a tribute after Bob's passing then they aren't going to start anytime soon. They still have it in their heads they must play 'hits'.
If Stevie quit (which I hope she doesn't) then a Mick, John, Lindsey, Christine lineup might have more scope for playing oldies.
they didn't play oldies as a foursome without Christine, who had by far the most hits in the current band, so i'm not really understanding your logic that they could easier play it without Stevie as a foursome? unless you think Stevie is the stumbling block (which i don't think she is, it's probably the whole band decision)?

FuzzyPlum
01-11-2015, 04:28 PM
they didn't play oldies as a foursome without Christine, who had by far the most hits in the current band, so i'm not really understanding your logic that they could easier play it without Stevie as a foursome? unless you think Stevie is the stumbling block (which i don't think she is, it's probably the whole band decision)?

There'd be a whole different dynamic with a Christine/Lindsey band. For Say You Will, Unleashed and 2013 they played up to the Stevie/Lindsey schtick. The draw of On With The Show is obviously Christine/the return to the 'classic' 5 piece. A Christine/Lindsey band would need a different angle. Such a band would be 75% blues-roots. Christine would need to play more of her own material and she has the pre-75 FM back-catalogue (as well as playing a couple of the new songs). Mick, John and Christine may be more inclined to persuade Lindsey to play an oldie.

elle
01-11-2015, 05:51 PM
There'd be a whole different dynamic with a Christine/Lindsey band. For Say You Will, Unleashed and 2013 they played up to the Stevie/Lindsey schtick. The draw of On With The Show is obviously Christine/the return to the 'classic' 5 piece.

see but they needed a schtick just because they were trying to make up some new excuse for touring greatest hits over and over again, the last 3 times.

they don't need any schtick if they have new music to tour (which they do!). if you envision next tour with Christine-Lindsey as only singer-songwriters, you would have all their hits and mainstays (which again, could easily be by numbers more than SN-LB led foursome if they choose to do them all since Christine has almost double the hits of the other 2), plus 6-8 new songs and you would have more than a full set.