View Full Version : I just remembered why Landslide sucked at the show I attended.
PenguinHead
12-12-2014, 01:55 AM
I'm sitting here watching Blake Shelton's Not So Family Christmas TV show. He started the show by saying to the studio audience "you might be so moved by one of these Christmas classics that we're going to do, that you all actually start singing along with us here on the stage. But don't do that. Because if you do, the mikes will pick up your voices and you'll screw everything up."
That's sort of what has happened to Landslide. In earlier times, you could barely hear a pin drop from the audience; it was a dramatic moment, where everyone was silently focused on Stevie, paying reverence the song and the intense emotion being channeled. But now it's just become an audience participation sing along and sounds like a karaoke performance. I could barely hear Stevie over thousands of off key voices. Unwelcome to the choir sir! And welcome to the social media age where everyone gets to play a part! It ruined the moment.
Macfan4life
12-12-2014, 07:42 AM
This is the case with ALL concerts. They were talking about this on the Howard Stern show a few months ago where some of the hosts attended an Eagles concert in New York. The young people in front of them seemed to not care about the music. They were texting during the show, taking selfies, and talking the entire show.
I never like to ruin anyone else's fun during a concert though. If you like to sing, go for it. But I also find it annoying when someone is loudly singing next to you. The only more annoying thing is when they loudly sing and don't even know the words :eek:
Flashback 1983. My first concert was the Wild Heart tour. Stevie thanked the audience for being so quiet during Beauty and the Beast. I wish I had those statements on tape but after the song she openly appreciated how respectful and quiet everyone was. Its common during songs like that were people shout out all kinds of things during the quiet moments of the song.
MikeInNV
12-12-2014, 09:50 AM
I'm sitting here watching Blake Shelton's Not So Family Christmas TV show. He started the show by saying to the studio audience "you might be so moved by one of these Christmas classics that we're going to do, that you all actually start singing along with us here on the stage. But don't do that. Because if you do, the mikes will pick up your voices and you'll screw everything up."
That's sort of what has happened to Landslide. In earlier times, you could barely hear a pin drop from the audience; it was a dramatic moment, where everyone was silently focused on Stevie, paying reverence the song and the intense emotion being channeled. But now it's just become an audience participation sing along and sounds like a karaoke performance. I could barely hear Stevie over thousands of off key voices. Unwelcome to the choir sir! And welcome to the social media age where everyone gets to play a part! It ruined the moment.
I've definitely had that happen, but at the show I attended last week, I thought the audience was surprisingly quiet during Landslide, and the fact that I would even notice such a thing really shows what a marked change it was.
louielouie2000
12-12-2014, 10:57 AM
But now it's just become an audience participation sing along and sounds like a karaoke performance. I could barely hear Stevie over thousands of off key voices. Unwelcome to the choir sir! And welcome to the social media age where everyone gets to play a part! It ruined the moment.
The first time I heard Landslide live in person was during the Enchanted tour in 1998- well before the social media era. Even then, it was a big old sing along. For me, it was a very touching, poignant moment- that old song having the same spontaneous effect on thousands of people. I thought it was great, and I truly felt the love. However, I can also see how it could sour some people who are there simply to hear the music.
bethelblues
12-12-2014, 12:25 PM
I think Landslide has consistently been one of Stevie's best vocal performances. She's grown with the song, her voice has changed, but her tone quality is still quite lovely. I like how she does the song now over both the studio version as well as performances in the 70s. Also--how great is it that she's allowed the song to age? So many singers are afraid to do that and try to do everything they can to keep what they once had, be it vocally or in the original recording. I've always wondered why she's never done Landslide as an encore, but maybe that explains it...she likes a more quiet audience at the end who are not singing along with her.
bombaysaffires
12-12-2014, 12:36 PM
I love the version of Landslide on the Live album… it has that quiet reverence feel to it, and even at the end, when she's done, it's like the audience isn't entirely sure she's finished, and then when they figure out she is they burst into raucous applause and cheering. The quiet gives the song a poignancy it just doesn't have with the rowdier versions. Which are fun, I get that, but it's a qualitatively different experience.
bethelblues
12-12-2014, 01:11 PM
Your post reminded me of this version on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLobSQlet3s
The quiets really make it sound so distinct from her current version. In some ways, it's more introspective, for sure.
bombaysaffires
12-12-2014, 02:31 PM
this reminds me how great it sounded with Christine playing on Landslide as well.
MikeInNV
12-12-2014, 02:47 PM
I think Landslide has consistently been one of Stevie's best vocal performances. She's grown with the song, her voice has changed, but her tone quality is still quite lovely. I like how she does the song now over both the studio version as well as performances in the 70s. Also--how great is it that she's allowed the song to age? So many singers are afraid to do that and try to do everything they can to keep what they once had, be it vocally or in the original recording. I've always wondered why she's never done Landslide as an encore, but maybe that explains it...she likes a more quiet audience at the end who are not singing along with her.
She did during the Timespace/Whole Lotta Trouble tour in 1991.
Macfanforever
12-12-2014, 04:05 PM
Wow I never look at this this way.How many shows we heard somebody bellowing out."I LOVE YOU STEVIE" in the quiet parts of the song.
That could throw her off in concentrating singing the tune.She's a pro and marches on with the song.
michelej1
12-12-2014, 04:06 PM
Oh, Beauty and the Beast is the famous one for them screaming things during the quiet parts, because it's not gentle, supportive stuff, it's more along the lines of, "Hey Stevie! I'll be your beast" or "I'm a beast in bed, baby."
Michele
Macfanforever
12-12-2014, 04:12 PM
Oh, Beauty and the Beast is the famous one for them screaming things during the quiet parts, because it's not gentle, supportive stuff, it's more along the lines of, "Hey Stevie! I'll be your beast" or "I'm a beast in bed, baby."
Michele
Yes.I agree.Songbird is another tune thats quiet and has fans giving their love to Chris as she sings Songbird.
nicole21290
12-12-2014, 06:40 PM
I cannot explain how irritated I get when I find a wonderfully filmed, recorded video of Love Is (another regular victim) and it has some audience member screaming and shouting all over it. Ugh.
bethelblues
12-12-2014, 10:26 PM
Has Anyone Ever Written Anything For You? is another.
SteveMacD
12-12-2014, 11:34 PM
this reminds me how great it sounded with Christine playing on Landslide as well.
There is a bootleg from one of the last two nights of the BTM tour, after it was announced Christine and Stevie would no longer be touring with the band, when Lindsey joined them on stage for "Landslide" and it was just the three of them. Gooseflesh.
WayOfTheDragon
12-13-2014, 12:44 AM
This reminded me of a Rumours tour show I haven't heard in years (I think it was the Philadelphia show)... during Landslide, some guy in the audience started shouting "Take it off!" at Stevie, and it is clearly heard on the bootleg.
PenguinHead
12-13-2014, 01:01 AM
I think Landslide has consistently been one of Stevie's best vocal performances. She's grown with the song, her voice has changed, but her tone quality is still quite lovely. I like how she does the song now over both the studio version as well as performances in the 70s. Also--how great is it that she's allowed the song to age? So many singers are afraid to do that and try to do everything they can to keep what they once had, be it vocally or in the original recording. I've always wondered why she's never done Landslide as an encore, but maybe that explains it...she likes a more quiet audience at the end who are not singing along with her.
The Landslide featured on the LIVE album is like no other Landslide.
PenguinHead
12-13-2014, 01:12 AM
The first time I heard Landslide live in person was during the Enchanted tour in 1998- well before the social media era. Even then, it was a big old sing along. For me, it was a very touching, poignant moment- that old song having the same spontaneous effect on thousands of people. I thought it was great, and I truly felt the love. However, I can also see how it could sour some people who are there simply to hear the music.
I prefer if the love was appropriately shown after the song, not during it. I'd rather hear just Stevie singing the song sans the audience participation. It really sucks how society standards have drastically shifted in the last twenty years. To quote Stevie: "How will we feel twenty years from now?" Well I feel like we're living in a new naval-gazing "ME" generation, facilitated by technology/social media.
michelej1
12-13-2014, 01:51 AM
There is a bootleg from one of the last two nights of the BTM tour, after it was announced Christine and Stevie would no longer be touring with the band, when Lindsey joined them on stage for "Landslide" and it was just the three of them. Gooseflesh.
Yes. I think Stevie left center stage for a second to go over to Christine at the piano.
Michele
nicole21290
12-13-2014, 03:16 AM
Yes. I think Stevie left center stage for a second to go over to Christine at the piano.
Michele
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sd6fcI8ZGi4
Beautiful version of that song. I know you're very keen on that moment, but I must say it's the dedication and the significant lyrical changes which get me all verklempt. It's actually particularly interesting to me when you contrast it with Lindsey's AHI dedication only a decade later.
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michelej1
12-13-2014, 03:36 PM
when you contrast it with Lindsey's AHI dedication only a decade later.
I like to compare it to AHI the way she doesn't introduce Lindsey, she comes out with him and says, "Need I say more."
Then in AHI she's like, what can I say, but Lindsey's microphone cord gets stuck and he doesn't come across the stage to her and she says, "can I say it yet?" Then she walks over towards him to help escort him over.
As for 1990, I had tickets for the Cow Palace but I didn't go, because I didn't feel like flying. This was before the terrorist attacks, before flying to Northern California was even a hassle. You could breeze through security, so I don't know what my deal was exactly. I did not know that Lindsey would appear. When I heard, I kicked myself many times, but I did get to see him in Los Angeles and I was prepared for him to be there, so it was very exciting. I don't know how much more exciting it would have been if he'd just walked out and I hadn't expected him at all.
Michele
jbrownsjr
12-13-2014, 04:15 PM
There is a bootleg from one of the last two nights of the BTM tour, after it was announced Christine and Stevie would no longer be touring with the band, when Lindsey joined them on stage for "Landslide" and it was just the three of them. Gooseflesh.
I love Chris's keyboards on this during BTM.
twinmatrix
12-14-2014, 07:28 AM
The Landslide featured on the LIVE album is like no other Landslide.
Which LIVE album?
nicole21290
12-14-2014, 08:21 AM
Which LIVE album?
This one, I would assume?
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PenguinHead
12-22-2014, 01:12 AM
This one, I would assume?
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Thanks for clarifying. But it's not rocket science to understand that Fleetwood Mac has an live album entitled LIVE.:shrug:
StreetAngel86
12-22-2014, 01:59 AM
Oh, Beauty and the Beast is the famous one for them screaming things during the quiet parts, because it's not gentle, supportive stuff, it's more along the lines of, "Hey Stevie! I'll be your beast" or "I'm a beast in bed, baby."
Michele
:lol::lol::lol::lol:
B&TB was one of those songs here where it was dead quiet.
give you chills kinda quiet.
i am not a landslide fan.
but Live ... the audience singing along really sets the mood and makes the song emotional for me. you can't tell ppl to STFU. they wont.
nicole21290
12-22-2014, 02:08 AM
Thanks for clarifying. But it's not rocket science to understand that Fleetwood Mac has an live album entitled LIVE.:shrug:
They asked. No harm in providing an answer, even if they could've found it themselves.
PenguinHead
12-22-2014, 03:23 AM
They asked. No harm in providing an answer, even' if they could've found it themselves.
You're right. No harm intended. I guess that with three live albums it can be confusing.
LIVE
The Dance
Live in Boston
secret love
12-22-2014, 03:27 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sd6fcI8ZGi4
Beautiful version of that song. I know you're very keen on that moment, but I must say it's the dedication and the significant lyrical changes which get me all verklempt. It's actually particularly interesting to me when you contrast it with Lindsey's AHI dedication only a decade later.
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Thank you Nicole for teaching me a new word! Yiddish for "choked up with emotions"! :thumbsup:
secret love
12-22-2014, 03:38 AM
I'm sitting here watching Blake Shelton's Not So Family Christmas TV show. He started the show by saying to the studio audience "you might be so moved by one of these Christmas classics that we're going to do, that you all actually start singing along with us here on the stage. But don't do that. Because if you do, the mikes will pick up your voices and you'll screw everything up."
That's sort of what has happened to Landslide. In earlier times, you could barely hear a pin drop from the audience; it was a dramatic moment, where everyone was silently focused on Stevie, paying reverence the song and the intense emotion being channeled. But now it's just become an audience participation sing along and sounds like a karaoke performance. I could barely hear Stevie over thousands of off key voices. Unwelcome to the choir sir! And welcome to the social media age where everyone gets to play a part! It ruined the moment.
Sorry, but I have to disagree. Landslide is a song I watched on YouTube regularly last year - 2013 audience recordings and again this year - audience recordings from 2014.
Landslide for me is the one song that Stevie manages to still sing so beautifully and so perfectly that it does not age, apart from the line "Children get older and I'm getting older, too".
The sing a long is something I really hope Australian fans will participate in late next year when the band will hopefully be touring here, 2 years late, might I add.
Cancer was a good excuse until John was better. Now that he has been in remission for possibly a full year or more, there really was no excuse for not touring Australia first starting September 30, 2014. The Sydney weather was lovely. Melbourne is always four seasons in one day any time of year, but the lovely old Parliament and big four Banks buildings are just gorgeous. I can just see Stevie and Mick and Christine and John travelling past Flinders Street station on an old tram together. They are not as famous here. A lot of people my age (I'm 21) do not know who they are, full stop.
They could get away with more public appearances and receive less media attention here in Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, especially Darwin and Adelaide (smaller cities), Perth, Canberra. Not sure if Canberra has an appropriate venue. Hobart in Tasmania? Will that be one of the token half-dozen shows we get?
I feel like this band treats us Aussies like chopped liver. We're an optional add on to a North American world and they can and would give us short shrift if they were sick of touring by the end of September 2015. Australia and New Zealand shows are still more of an if than a when for me, but November 2015 sounded good.
I am sure it must bore Americans to tears to hear me complain but I was due to see them in 2013. They would have been so close that I could have caught one train then a taxi or a bus to them! :cool:
Instead, two years late, they might decide to drop in for a dozen shows. Gee, thanks guys, no new album and you left us hanging for two years! Look, Christine is fine and I'm thankful for her participation but I could nearly boo the three amigos Stevie, Lindsey and Mick with their stacks of cash and Cheshire fat cat grins! John gets a get out of gaol free card because he nearly died. :lol:
Is that joke in poor taste?
KarmaContestant
12-22-2014, 11:26 AM
Wow I never look at this this way.How many shows we heard somebody bellowing out."I LOVE YOU STEVIE" in the quiet parts of the song.
True story: 8 years ago my now-husband and I went to a Fiona Apple concert, but not together. He was with a friend, and so was I, and it was a coincidence that we were both there. Anyway, at some point, he screamed out "I LOVE YOU FIONA" during a quiet moment, and then the best thing ever happened - she responded - with "Whatever dude."
:laugh:
michelej1
12-23-2014, 02:26 PM
^I'm in some pain about The Affair right now and can barely think about anything even tangentially related to it without being depressed, BUT have people who don't watch that show heard Fiona Apple's theme song? It rocks.
She remade her song Container for the theme and its mysterious and seductive. Basically, I'm just a wave and I've got nothing else to do but wreak havoc and devastation and sink right back into the ocean as if I'd never been there.
Yum.
Michele
secret love
12-23-2014, 05:26 PM
^I'm in some pain about The Affair right now and can barely think about anything even tangentially related to it without being depressed, BUT have people who don't watch that show heard Fiona Apple's theme song? It rocks.
She remade her song Container for the theme and its mysterious and seductive. Basically, I'm just a wave and I've got nothing else to do but wreak havoc and devastation and sink right back into the ocean as if I'd never been there.
Yum.
Michele
It might just be a personal bugbear, but it bothers me when people say or write "yum" when discussing anything other than food or drink.
Not sure why, but I think it is because it sounds like sexual innuendo to me, so if people say it around me in public, I feel a little uncomfortable. I don't mind you saying it here on the Ledge - but I am just trying to start a conversation about this.
Is it just me or is that use of "yum" giving the word sexual connotations?
michelej1
12-23-2014, 05:29 PM
It might just be a personal bugbear, but it bothers me when people say or write "yum" when discussing anything other than food or drink.
Not sure why, but I think it is because it sounds like sexual innuendo to me, so if people say it around me in public, I feel a little uncomfortable. I don't mind you saying it here on the Ledge - but I am just trying to start a conversation about this.
Is it just me or is that use of "yum" giving the word sexual connotations?
I don't think it has sexual connotations, but if it did, it wouldn't deter my use of it.
Lindsey Buckingham in the Seven Wonders video. YUM!
By the way, the corporate name of the company that owns Pizza Hut, Taco Bell and Kentucky Fried Chickens is Yum! Brands.
They spell it with the exclamation mark.
Michele
Macfanforever
12-23-2014, 06:19 PM
True story: 8 years ago my now-husband and I went to a Fiona Apple concert, but not together. He was with a friend, and so was I, and it was a coincidence that we were both there. Anyway, at some point, he screamed out "I LOVE YOU FIONA" during a quiet moment, and then the best thing ever happened - she responded - with "Whatever dude."
:laugh:
Hahahaha.Wow.I bet he felt good after that.
I would feint if Stevie say something like I love you to back at me in return.
nicole21290
12-23-2014, 06:27 PM
^I'm in some pain about The Affair right now and can barely think about anything even tangentially related to it without being depressed, BUT have people who don't watch that show heard Fiona Apple's theme song? It rocks.
She remade her song Container for the theme and its mysterious and seductive. Basically, I'm just a wave and I've got nothing else to do but wreak havoc and devastation and sink right back into the ocean as if I'd never been there.
Yum.
Michele
One hundred percent agreed with you here. I put that theme song on my iPod about a half hour after the premiere of that show, I loved it so much. So gloriously atmospheric.
jbrownsjr
12-23-2014, 07:01 PM
One hundred percent agreed with you here. I put that theme song on my iPod about a half hour after the premiere of that show, I loved it so much. So gloriously atmospheric.
It took me a few listens, but now I am hooked on that song. I love the show, too.
jbrownsjr
12-23-2014, 07:32 PM
^I'm in some pain about The Affair right now and can barely think about anything even tangentially related to it without being depressed, BUT have people who don't watch that show heard Fiona Apple's theme song? It rocks.
She remade her song Container for the theme and its mysterious and seductive. Basically, I'm just a wave and I've got nothing else to do but wreak havoc and devastation and sink right back into the ocean as if I'd never been there.
Yum.
Michele
I just finished the season. So dark. Love the theme.
michelej1
12-23-2014, 07:43 PM
I love the show, too.
No. Don't talk to me. We cannot survive a disagreement of this magnitude.
Michele
jbrownsjr
12-23-2014, 11:19 PM
No. Don't talk to me. We cannot survive a disagreement of this magnitude.
Michele
We'll always have Paris.
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