Julia & SVTV 2 [Archive]

welcomechris

11-05-2014, 05:45 PM

So now we know "Julia" was cut from the 24K gold list. We still don't know if she tried recording it, but we know it was on her "list".

Q
"Your new album is amazing and I'm thrilled with the song selection. I do have one question -- do you have any plans to re-record "Julia" sometime in the future? It's long been a fan favorite, and many of us were very surprised you didn't include it on 24 Karat Gold."

A
It was on the original list. It's kind of like why the songs that DID make the record didn't make it back in '75. You have to start cutting songs. When I do '24 Karat Gold- Part 2 Songs from the Vault,' Julie will definitely be on it!

Will she have time to record another album? Maybe after the FM tour she'll do another Nashville record and release it while she's on her solo tour! And yay for Julia!

Fannymac

11-06-2014, 12:21 PM

I was glad to see the mention of a Vol. 2 as well! If "At The Fair" and "What Has Rock & Roll Ever Done For You" don't show up on the Fleetwood Mac album, I'm pretty sure they would make it on to a second edition of VAULT!

Macfanforever

11-06-2014, 12:26 PM

Maybe she will round up Lindsey and the Mac to rerecord "Wildheart" like the dressingroom demo with "Cant Go Back". for the second 24K.

SpyNote

11-06-2014, 12:35 PM

Since 24 Karat Gold was Stevie's last record for Warner Bros., I wonder if they will renew her contract or if she even wants a new recording contract with them.

Macfanforever

11-06-2014, 12:41 PM

Since 24 Karat Gold was Stevie's last record for Warner Bros., I wonder if they will renew her contract or if she even wants a new recording contract with them.

Maybe she will move on and go indy.

The only good thing with WB is wide distribution.

The Mac has been married to WB for over 40 plus years I'll be surprised if they divorce .

Christopher

11-06-2014, 01:01 PM

Since 24 Karat Gold was Stevie's last record for Warner Bros., I wonder if they will renew her contract or if she even wants a new recording contract with them.
I don't see Stevie signing another big (5 record obligation) recording contract at this point in her career. I could see her signing a 1, or 2 off recording obligation that tied in another studio album with a compilation release aftwards. Stevie seems to have a good relationship with the WBR studio heads, plus, she's a legendary act/icon. So I can see Stevie doing another "Songs From The Vault 2" quickly if she really wants to. Most everyone here knows she has more than enough high quality songs still left to easily fill 12-16 solid songs on future release, and then some.
She's still hoarding the sacred "Rhiannon" songs (Forest Of The Black Roses, Forsaken Love, Maker Of Birds) by 2016 she may be ready to let those be recorded alongside the likes of "Chanel, Chanel, China Doll, Christian, All The Kings Horses, The Charmed Ones, Something Exquisite, You Like Me, Space Needle, Have No Heart, Love and War, Night Gallery, Sanctuary, She Calls Him Missing, Joan Of Arc, At The Fair, etc., and on & on...

Jondalar

11-08-2014, 08:33 PM

Can you imagine Julia or Joan of Arc produced by the 24k gang? They would end up terrific! If they can make Starshine and 24k work, I'm sure those song would be stellar.

UndoingTheLaces

11-10-2014, 12:20 AM

Maybe she will round up Lindsey and the Mac to rerecord "Wildheart" like the dressingroom demo with "Cant Go Back". for the second 24K.

I would love for them to do it, mashup style. I think the lyrics can go great as a call and response type thing. "She was just a dream maker, dreamer of sighs, shadow on the one who used to cry" and "where is the reason, don't blame it on me, blame it on my wild heart". Soooo good together.

Turn It On

11-10-2014, 02:08 AM

Can you imagine Julia or Joan of Arc produced by the 24k gang? They would end up terrific! If they can make Starshine and 24k work, I'm sure those song would be stellar.

God, they would murder Joan of Arc. The Tango version is perfection, she's be mad to touch it.

Macfanforever

11-10-2014, 02:29 AM

I would love for them to do it, mashup style. I think the lyrics can go great as a call and response type thing. "She was just a dream maker, dreamer of sighs, shadow on the one who used to cry" and "where is the reason, don't blame it on me, blame it on my wild heart". Soooo good together.

Yes I agree.That sounds great .The dressing room demo sticks into my head then the studio cut.

straightback818

11-10-2014, 02:55 PM

StreetAngel86

11-10-2014, 06:04 PM

Can you imagine Julia or Joan of Arc produced by the 24k gang? They would end up terrific! If they can make Starshine and 24k work, I'm sure those song would be stellar.

don't even go there :eek:
I need Joan to be a Mac song though :thumbsup:

i just want Something Exquisite and Have No Heart and Prettiest Girl and Space Needle
please and thank you

ps - i second the Mirror Mirror redo ... it needs more exposure

sorcerer999

11-10-2014, 08:38 PM

God, they would murder Joan of Arc. The Tango version is perfection, she's be mad to touch it.

This is how I feel about "Julia". All the Bella Donna session versions (especially take 9, for me) is PERFECTION!!! So when I heard that it was the one song they recorded but left off of "24 Karat Gold", I breathed a sigh of relief, assuming they dropped it because they couldn't make it as good as the original versions.

But then she says that she will revisit it for SFTV part 2...and once again, I get extremely nervous. Can she TRULY outdo the masterful artistry that was the original? Maybe?

I was really afraid that ATBW and IYWML wouldn't measure up to their original counterparts...but she proved me wrong there, so who knows? Different strokes for different folks!

SFTV part 2 will be another exciting project for us to look forward to! If I were to venture a guess, I'm thinking it will be a late 2016 or early to mid 2017 release on that one. I don't care which songs she revisits, as long as they are great, like most of this record is.

However, now that all my favorite demos have been recorded on EVERY project of hers from TISL, SYW, IYD and 24KG, there are only 2 left from my personal TOP 10 Stevie demos, and they are "Night Gallery" and "Forsaken Love". Both of these need to end up on some sort of project, whether solo or with Fleetwood Mac before she retires...or else I will die an unhappy, incomplete man! LOL! I feel there's a lot of hope for "Night Gallery" but unless the Rhiannon project get manifested in some form or fashion, I don't think "Forsaken Love" has a chance, which is sad. Although, she did let "Blue Water" see the light of day and it was from the "Goldfish/Ladybug" project apparently, even though we didn't know.

UndoingTheLaces

11-10-2014, 11:04 PM

I would love for her to do Castaway. It's the one song of hers that doesn't have some emotional connection to me but I play constantly because it's so much fun to listen to and to sing along to. But I wouldn't want to Nashville treatment, I'd want Dave Stewart to be all over it.

Frankenstein

11-11-2014, 01:02 AM

I would kill to see Mirror Mirror, the wild youtube demo, finally get a true home, with a little cleaning up it would be an EPIC song, even a title track...
Mirror Mirror: Songs From the Vault 2!
The guitar in that song gets me going man

I was listening to this song the other day and thought the same thing.

If she does indeed do SFTV 2 I really hope Julia is on it. As well as: Cecilia, All The King's Horses, Forsaken Love and Sanctuary.

DauphineMarie

11-11-2014, 09:04 AM

I was listening to this song the other day and thought the same thing.

If she does indeed do SFTV 2 I really hope Julia is on it. As well as: Cecilia, All The King's Horses, Forsaken Love and Sanctuary.

All these, as well as Rock a Bye Baby, Christian (Spinning Wheels), and Ooh Ooh Baby, and One More Tomorrow

welcomechris

11-11-2014, 09:42 AM

Castaway: Songs from the Vault 2

1. All The Kings Horses
2. Sanctuary
3. Julia
4. The Maker's Of Birds
5. Forest of the Black Roses
6. Frustrated Love
7. Love You Enough
8. Wild Heart/Can't Go Back (Bonus Track)
9. Something Exquisite
10. Castaway
11. Joan of Arc
12. You Like Me (Bonus Track)
13. One More Tomorrow
14. Chanel, Chanel
15. Farewell Failure
16. Ooh Ooh Baby

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sorcerer999

11-11-2014, 11:53 AM

^^^ Beautiful artwork and great design! Great job, Welcomechris!

However I don't like the title "Castaway". That really DOES make me think of them as "throwaway" tracks that weren't good enough, instead of 24 karat "golden tracks" that are rediscovered treasures. I love the song, though, and agree it would be nice to hear that one recorded properly. :nod:

Oh yeah, and your tracklist omits "Night Gallery", and we can't have that now can we? :lol::D

Mirror Mirror: Songs From the Vault 2!

That would be a nice contender for a title, even though (like "Julia") I think the B-side version that was on the "Blue Denim" cassingle, is perfection for me.

All these, as well as Rock a Bye Baby, Christian (Spinning Wheels), and Ooh Ooh Baby, and One More Tomorrow

I ADORE "Rock A Bye Baby" and would also love to hear this one redone!!! :]

DauphineMarie

11-11-2014, 06:51 PM

lol I made some cover art too - this is my favourite thing to do ever

https://38.media.tumblr.com/be6f9d459786e9af1fcfd95ad5e3d3bd/tumblr_newfecIeE41rhboumo2_500.jpg

https://38.media.tumblr.com/8f4a8b3680aba65f0a06d0321278244a/tumblr_newfecIeE41rhboumo1_500.jpg

tabruns

11-11-2014, 07:49 PM

I think Songs From The Vault II should be titled "Something Exquisite" and it should coincide with Nicks launching a perfume of the same name. :D

sorcerer999

11-19-2014, 01:04 AM

Today on my lunch break, I was surfing the web and going through one of the EXTENSIVE websites that lists all of Stevie's songs, demos, outtakes, etc. I decided to compile a list of unreleased Stevie songs that I think are pretty solid and enjoyable. This is a list of songs that I personally think she could do a great job, musically and vocally, with Songs From The Vault Part II. Surprisingly, out of the hundred or so songs I scanned through (and believe me, I've listened to ALL OF THEM throughout the years) I could only come up with a list of 20 songs that I personally enjoy. So I narrowed it down to 16 choices like the current deluxe track list of 24KG. My perfect track list for SFTV Part 2 would be...

1. Castaway
2. Mirror, Mirror
3. Baby Doll
4. Night Gallery
5. Cecelia
6. Maker Of Birds
7. Spinning Wheels (Christian)
8. Love You Enough
9. China Doll
10. Julia
11. Forest Of The Black Roses
12. Joan Of Arc
13. Forsaken Love
14. Impossible Task
15. Sanctuary
16. Rock A Bye Baby

I've said before that I think both "Julia" and "Mirror, Mirror" are perfection in their already completed forms, but she seems intent on re-recording the former for Part 2, and it also got me wondering if she could do a better job with the latter as well.

The other four tracks on my list of 20 are...

1. The Charmed Ones
2. Have No Heart
3.Something Exquisite
4. Space Needle

So if she is intent on saving my three favorite "Rhiannon" songs for some sort of special project (that will NEVER see the light of day :rolleyes:) then she could add three of these other four and I'd be cool! :lol:

This post, of course, is ALL just wishful dreaming on my part. And one can dream, right? Hell, she's recorded so many of my favorite demos on her past four projects, so I'll continue to "go on dreaming!" :D

PenguinHead

11-19-2014, 01:39 AM

[QUOTE=Fannymac;1152458]I was glad to see the mention of a Vol. 2 as well! If "At The Fair" and "What Has Rock & Roll Ever Done For You" don't show up on the Fleetwood Mac album, I'm pretty sure they would make it on to a second edition of VAULT![QUOTE]

Those songs would be good editions to a Fleetwood Mac album. I don't know why she couldn't have just handed over a selected batch of demos to Lindsey and the band when they were recording, so they could at least work on some arrangements. When she eventually makes it into the studio, she can pick and refine the the ones that appeal to her. But that's way too functional and co- operational for her.

PenguinHead

11-19-2014, 02:00 AM

I've said before that I think both "Julia" and "Mirror, Mirror" are perfection in their already completed forms, but she seems intent on re-recording the former for Part 2, and it also got me wondering if she could do a better job with the latter as well.

I'm hoping for a second edition box set with material that didn't make it on Enchanted. Shes still has a lot of stray songs, including ones that were made or released before and after 1998, such as If You Ever Did Believe, At Last, You Can't Fix This, Needles and Pins, Not Fade Away, It Seems So Easy etc... I agree that Mirror Mirror and at least one selected take of Julia are worthy of release (as well as the original All The Beautiful Worlds). Fill out the set with songs from Soundstage Sessions, Trouble in Shangrila, and In Your Dreams, 24 Karat Gold and other rare songs I can't remember at the moment...another great collection to add to her legacy.

sorcerer999

11-19-2014, 12:43 PM

I agree that Mirror Mirror and at least one selected take of Julia are worthy of release (as well as the original All The Beautiful Worlds).

You know, it's interesting ~ up until the release of 24KG, I'd always considered ATBW to be a "finished" song. It was never one of my favorites, though...but I still thought it was "complete".

This original version came up on my iPod yesterday and as I was listening, for the first time it just didn't sound "complete". I missed the synth in the verses and bridge, the piano "plunking" was lazy and the drum beat was just lackluster and plain. Her vocal was always stellar, but I noticed for the first time that she's basically shouting. And I had to turn it off...and put the REAL version on!!! :nod:

I'm so glad she re-recorded it...and made it one of the best songs she's ever done! Like "Secret Love", she made one of my least favorite demos (or outtakes, in this case) and made it one of my absolute favorite! :]

...and, as usual, I've totally gotten off topic. :sorry:

JeremyGloff

11-21-2014, 09:35 PM

I agree 100%! I never really liked ATBW that much but I love love love the 24K version. It's like the original was close to complete but missing something that's there in the official version to me. :)

welcomechris

02-17-2015, 09:08 AM

1. All The Kings Horses
2. City of Hope
3. Julia
4. Jimmy, Come On Back
5. Something Exquisite
6. The Maker Of Birds
7. Forest Of The Black Roses
8. Forsaken Love
9. The Kennedy's
10. Castaway
11. Sanctuary
12. Joan Of Arc
13. Ooh Ooh Baby

What do you guys think?

Jondalar

02-17-2015, 06:29 PM

Forsaken Love, Night Gallery, Forest of Black Roses = a truly GOTHIC MASTERPIECE with Three Birds of Rhiannon closing the album.

Machu

02-17-2015, 08:01 PM

8. Wild Heart/Can't Go Back (Bonus Track)

What a GREAT idea! She should totally record that version of Wild Heart for a second volume. :nod: I would think she knows at least a little that the version has a bit of a cult following. It's even been covered many times.

welcomechris

02-17-2015, 08:06 PM

What a GREAT idea! She should totally record that version of Wild Heart for a second volume. :nod: I would think she knows at least a little that the version has a bit of a cult following. It's even been covered many times.

Just that demo version of wild heart has over 1 million views on YouTube

bombaysaffires

02-17-2015, 08:24 PM

Forsaken Love, Night Gallery, Forest of Black Roses = a truly GOTHIC MASTERPIECE with Three Birds of Rhiannon closing the album.

Have No Heart is certainly gothic as well

bombaysaffires

02-17-2015, 08:25 PM

What a GREAT idea! She should totally record that version of Wild Heart for a second volume. :nod: I would think she knows at least a little that the version has a bit of a cult following. It's even been covered many times.

she'd have to get Lindsey's permission for that, or at least list him as a co-writer.

it's one thing to co-opt his chord progressions, but to use his actual music…..

Jondalar

02-17-2015, 08:35 PM

Have No Heart is certainly gothic as well

I love that song and it is Gothic.

Machu

02-17-2015, 09:40 PM

she'd have to get Lindsey's permission for that, or at least list him as a co-writer.

it's one thing to co-opt his chord progressions, but to use his actual music…..

The "Dressing Room" version of the song has been recorded/covered several times. If they can get permission, I'm sure Stevie can.

bombaysaffires

02-17-2015, 10:00 PM

The "Dressing Room" version of the song has been recorded/covered several times. If they can get permission, I'm sure Stevie can.

we don't know that they have. it could just as likely be that Lindsey didn't go after them. I would actually be very curious to know.

David

02-22-2015, 12:18 PM

She's still hoarding the sacred "Rhiannon" songs (Forest Of The Black Roses, Forsaken Love, Maker Of Birds) by 2016 she may be ready to let those be recorded alongside the likes of "Chanel, Chanel, China Doll, Christian, All The Kings Horses, The Charmed Ones, Something Exquisite, You Like Me, Space Needle, Have No Heart, Love and War, Night Gallery, Sanctuary, She Calls Him Missing, Joan Of Arc, At The Fair, etc., and on & on...
"Something Exquisite" — is that the one that goes "I just can't seem to get back to the crystal"? One of my favorites!!