Rumours officially 20xplatinum from RIAA!

[James89]

At last! 'Rumours' has been certified 20xplatinum by the RIAA. The album was last certified in 2003.

There are also many other FM titles that need re-certifying so I hope the RIAA can get to work on those.

Great news! :thumbsup:

[bethelblues]

That's great news! I can't believe Eagles Greatest Hits is 29x platinum. And that was released before Rumours?

[louielouie2000]

Pretty impressive- Rumours is only the 10th album to be certified Double Diamond in the history of the RIAA. :thumbsup:

[MikeVielhaber]

That's great news! I can't believe Eagles Greatest Hits is 29x platinum. And that was released before Rumours?

It was released about a year prior. It was also released just prior to their biggest album, Hotel California. It is a greatest hits album though. I have no idea how it's sold so much. It was alone at the top of all time US charts until Michael Jackson died pushing Thriller into a tie. But again that's a studio album against a greatest hits.

[MikeVielhaber]

Pretty impressive- Rumours is only the 10th album to be certified Double Diamond in the history of the RIAA. :thumbsup:

Yes, and 3 of those are double albums which count twice as much. So they've really sold...or shipped....half of that.

[Macfanforever]

Thats great news.I guess all 5 now can pick up the framed platinum disc's .

[jbrownsjr]

Impressive!!!

[Jondalar]

That's great news! I can't believe Eagles Greatest Hits is 29x platinum. And that was released before Rumours?

It's a greatest though. Not the same thing as a regular album.

[Macfanforever]

Not to sway off topic.Michael Jackson is probably up there with his albums by now along with the Beatles and Elvis .



I would like to find a list of this info.

I wonder were the rest of FM albums sit with RIAA.

[Jondalar]

Why was this the only one certified. Landslide should of been certified platinum.
Crystal Visions Gold.

[welcomechris]

Great news! Rumours is #10 on iTunes Rock!

[jwd]

At last! 'Rumours' has been certified 20xplatinum by the RIAA. The album was last certified in 2003.

There are also many other FM titles that need re-certifying so I hope the RIAA can get to work on those.

Great news! :thumbsup:

I'm curious to know what each band member made off those 20 million copies sold, if there's even a quantitative way of calculating it.

[jcalzaretta]

Hold on. 11 years and it only sold 1M? I heard at least 3M. I think that number is wrong.

[jcalzaretta]

11 years. That is 1748 records a week. We know it sells that much a week and in some instances more. After Glee 11,000 in a week. So I do wonder if this number is right. It seems low.

[Richard B]

Good for them. Now I hope everyone understands why Rumours will always be blitzed out on tours, remasters/rehashings and recycled articles.

[Bandon]

This means their still running head-to-head with Miss ShawniaTwang...ugh.

[aleuzzi]

Help me out with the numbers. 20x platinum means 40million copies, right?

[kak125]

It means 20 million copies.

[Macfanforever]

This means their still running head-to-head with Miss ShawniaTwang...ugh.

I love Shania and her music .I did not know she sold that many albums.

Does anybody have the link on this info.

Thanks in advance.

[bethelblues]

How many albums has FM sold all together? Wikipedia has 100M, but on tv they say 75M.

[tabruns]

US sales *certifications alone* (not actual sales, which are higher):

Fleetwood Mac (white album) - 5 million
Rumours - 20 million
Tusk - 2 million
Mirage - 2 million
Live - 500,000
Tango In The Night - 3 million
Greatest Hits - 8 million
Behind The Mask - 500,000
The Dance - 5 million
Say You Will - 500,000
Live In Boston - 100,000 (platinum for video longform)
Very Best of Fleetwood Mac - 1 million

So roughly 48 million alone in just United States certification sales. But we know actual sales are higher...I think Soundscan had "Say You Will" at 900,000, for example.

[aleuzzi]

US sales *certifications alone* (not actual sales, which are higher):

Fleetwood Mac (white album) - 5 million
Rumours - 20 million
Tusk - 2 million
Mirage - 2 million
Live - 500,000
Tango In The Night - 3 million
Greatest Hits - 8 million
Behind The Mask - 500,000
The Dance - 5 million
Say You Will - 500,000
Live In Boston - 100,000 (platinum for video longform)
Very Best of Fleetwood Mac - 1 million

So roughly 48 million alone in just United States certification sales. But we know actual sales are higher...I think Soundscan had "Say You Will" at 900,000, for example.
Thanks. This is helpful. I also just read that worldwide Rumours has sold about 40 million.

[MikeVielhaber]

US sales *certifications alone* (not actual sales, which are higher):

Fleetwood Mac (white album) - 5 million
Rumours - 20 million
Tusk - 2 million
Mirage - 2 million
Live - 500,000
Tango In The Night - 3 million
Greatest Hits - 8 million
Behind The Mask - 500,000
The Dance - 5 million
Say You Will - 500,000
Live In Boston - 100,000 (platinum for video longform)
Very Best of Fleetwood Mac - 1 million

So roughly 48 million alone in just United States certification sales. But we know actual sales are higher...I think Soundscan had "Say You Will" at 900,000, for example.
They aren't necessarily higher. I'm sure it's a case by case basis. Rumours was just certified 20 times platinum. Because that certification is up to date it's likely higher than the amount sold. After all, these are certifications for shipments, not sales.

Example, I was looking at a few of those other top albums. Double Live by Gartha Brooks is 21X platinum. It counts twice because it is a double album so that's really 10.5 million shipped. The actual Nielsen soundscan number is about 6 million.

[HomerMcvie]

Good for them. Now I hope everyone understands why Rumours will always be blitzed out on tours, remasters/rehashings and recycled articles.

Yes. We do. Because, "this isn't about art" - Stevie


#cashgrabforinfinity :lol:

[jwd]

US sales *certifications alone* (not actual sales, which are higher):

Fleetwood Mac (white album) - 5 million
Rumours - 20 million
Tusk - 2 million
Mirage - 2 million
Live - 500,000
Tango In The Night - 3 million
Greatest Hits - 8 million
Behind The Mask - 500,000
The Dance - 5 million
Say You Will - 500,000
Live In Boston - 100,000 (platinum for video longform)
Very Best of Fleetwood Mac - 1 million

So roughly 48 million alone in just United States certification sales. But we know actual sales are higher...I think Soundscan had "Say You Will" at 900,000, for example.


Any certifications for Mac's early records? Maybe I'm thinking they were just charting on Billboard when the Stevie/Lindsey incarnation was taking off.

Did Bob Welch's album French Kiss go gold or platinum?

[michelej1]

Yahoo Australia 10/24/14

https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/25339896/rumours-passes-20-million-sales-in-us/

Fleetwood Mac's Rumours album has now sold over 20 million copies in the US.

Rumours, which was released in 1977, has been given its twentieth platinum certificate, indicating sales of over twenty million units.

That moves the record into a tie for eighth place with Shania Twain on the list of the biggest selling albums of all-time in the US.

Rumours was the 11th studio album by the rock band and produced hits songs such as Go Your Own Way, Dreams, Don't Stop and You Make Loving Fun.

It won the Grammy for Best Album in 1978.

[StevieNicksfann]

US sales *certifications alone* (not actual sales, which are higher):

Fleetwood Mac (white album) - 5 million
Rumours - 20 million
Tusk - 2 million
Mirage - 2 million
Live - 500,000
Tango In The Night - 3 million
Greatest Hits - 8 million
Behind The Mask - 500,000
The Dance - 5 million
Say You Will - 500,000
Live In Boston - 100,000 (platinum for video longform)
Very Best of Fleetwood Mac - 1 million

So roughly 48 million alone in just United States certification sales. But we know actual sales are higher...I think Soundscan had "Say You Will" at 900,000, for example.

Can someone verify Tango In The Night? I was a DJ back then and followed charts pretty faithfully and I could have sworn Tango was more like &x platinum. It was touted as the best selling album they had after Rumours (sales-wise not time-wise). Also, I believe Tusk sold 4 million copies but maybe that's really 2 million counted twice for the double album. All the others seem right based on my memory which could very well be off.

[tabruns]

They aren't necessarily higher. I'm sure it's a case by case basis. Rumours was just certified 20 times platinum. Because that certification is up to date it's likely higher than the amount sold. After all, these are certifications for shipments, not sales.

Example, I was looking at a few of those other top albums. Double Live by Gartha Brooks is 21X platinum. It counts twice because it is a double album so that's really 10.5 million shipped. The actual Nielsen soundscan number is about 6 million.

True, sometimes it is the case that album sales are actually lower, because a record company has an album certified based on shipments. So Stevie's Street Angel has been certified Gold although it hasn't yet actually passed 500,000 in sales.

Most of the time however certification lags behind sales, so normally certifications do indicate the bare minimum of what a record sold. Say You Will, for example, is definitely closer to 1,000,000 in sales than 500,000....but if you went by certification alone, you'd think 500,000 because it's only been certified Gold.

[tabruns]

Can someone verify Tango In The Night? I was a DJ back then and followed charts pretty faithfully and I could have sworn Tango was more like &x platinum. It was touted as the best selling album they had after Rumours (sales-wise not time-wise). Also, I believe Tusk sold 4 million copies but maybe that's really 2 million counted twice for the double album. All the others seem right based on my memory which could very well be off.

I've seen Tango In The Night mentioned as having sold 8 million copies worldwide. Lindsey and Mick have both said that Tango is their second highest selling album, after Rumours.

Lindsey has various referred to Tusk as selling 6 or 8 million copies but who knows what he was basing that on - I assume worldwide sales. It's been certified double platinum, but it's although it's a double album I *think* it was certified PRIOR to double albums being counted twice certification-wise. If that's correct, then if it were re-certified now it would be 4 million, possibly more (US sales alone).

[tabruns]

All the certifications I listed btw came directly from RIAA's website.

But it only means that's what the album was *last* certified at. In some cases, its been a Lonnnnnnnnnng time since it was last certified.

[James89]

'Tusk' definitely sold more than 2 million copies in the US so if they then counted the double album then it would've been 4xPlatinum but I think it was just before that came in.

'Tango in the Night' has sold over 12 million copies worldwide and 'Greatest Hits' has sold very close to 20 million.

[welcomechris]

Let's Fix This

Future Games: 500,000
Bare Trees: 1,000,000
Mystery To Me: 500,000
Fleetwood Mac: 5,000,000
Rumours: 20,000,000
Tusk: 2,000,000
Mirage: 2,000,000
Tango In The Night: 3,000,000
Behind The Mask: 500,000

[welcomechris]

Greatest Hits: 8,000,000
Very Best Of: 1,000,000
Time: 50,000 (As of 2004)
25 Years: The Chain: 80,000 (As of 2004)
Say You Will: 900,000 (As of 2004)
Dance: 5,000,000
Extended Play: 9,000 (As of 2014)

[Macfan4life]

I thought Tusk sold 4 million copies? I also thought Tango sold more than 3 million.

Glad to see several of the early albums Gold. Also good to see Behind the Mask Gold.

Anyone know if Christine McVie 1984 has ever been near Gold status? I have never found that out.

[MikeVielhaber]

I thought Tusk sold 4 million copies? I also thought Tango sold more than 3 million.

Glad to see several of the early albums Gold. Also good to see Behind the Mask Gold.

Anyone know if Christine McVie 1984 has ever been near Gold status? I have never found that out.

certified 4X platinum, but each album counts twice for a double album so it actually sold around 2 million.

[Macfan4life]

certified 4X platinum, but each album counts twice for a double album so it actually sold around 2 million.
Oh....that explains it ;)

[David]

Question: Why do they keep releasing Rumours every other year in some package or other?

Answer: Because it's still selling.

[michelej1]

Question: Why do they keep releasing Rumours every other year in some package or other?

Answer: Because it's still selling.

But other things might sell, if they'd just give them a try. Tango was the #2 album. Why not just see if repackaging it would stir any interest anywhere.

We know they like to make money, so it's shocking to me that they (or the record company) seemingly shut the door on so many varieties of profit and just focus on one. We'd also buy video. Old video from Rumours, Gypsy video. New concert video. They will sell a lot fewer tour programs now than they would have if they'd had a program to start off with. I mean, they just overlook huge revenue possibilities.

Michele

[bombaysaffires]

But other things might sell, if they'd just give them a try. Tango was the #2 album. Why not just see if repackaging it would stir any interest anywhere.

We know they like to make money, so it's shocking to me that they (or the record company) seemingly shut the door on so many varieties of profit and just focus on one. We'd also buy video. Old video from Rumours, Gypsy video. New concert video. They will sell a lot fewer tour programs now than they would have if they'd had a program to start off with. I mean, they just overlook huge revenue possibilities.

Michele

wonder how much of that is part of the band politics of getting all the disparate opinions/managers/lawyers/band members/ hairstylists to come to some agreement:mad:

[mitzo]

Aren't worldwide sales figures more what we want rather than just US?

[Jondalar]

Aren't worldwide sales figures more what we want rather than just US?

No - who cares what it sold anywhere else. The United States is the only country that counts.

[welcomechris]

I think worldwide they've sold 105 Million.

[SisterNightroad]

No - who cares what it sold anywhere else. The United States is the only country that counts.
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[tabruns]

Yes, and 3 of those are double albums which count twice as much. So they've really sold...or shipped....half of that.

Yeah I never really understood this, as it seems (IMO) to really inflate how popular a double album actually was. On the other hand, you are paying more for it since its a double, but I always thought the better way to certify double albums would be to count them at 1.5 times the sales. That way it accounts for the higher cost/higher profits, but it doesn't double the actual units sold.