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James89
10-14-2014, 04:49 PM
Well it looks like '24 Karat Gold' will be at #8 on the Billboard 200 on sales of approximately 26,000, according to Hits Daily Double. That is precisely HALF of what 'In Your Dreams' sold 3 years ago. :shocked:

Personally, even though I know there has been very little promotion for this album, I am disappointed by this figure and thought the album would sell about 35-40,000.

At least this is another top 10 album in the bag for Stevie but I'm sure she'll be disappointed with that figure. I know though that the music business is in a terrible way but for an act like Stevie that is low.

For me, this album blows IYD out of the water and that's why I'm slightly disappointed as I want as many people as possible to hear this great record. :)

DauphineMarie
10-14-2014, 04:58 PM
Well it looks like '24 Karat Gold' will be at #8 on the Billboard 200 on sales of approximately 26,000, according to Hits Daily Double. That is precisely HALF of what 'In Your Dreams' sold 3 years ago. :shocked:

Personally, even though I know there has been very little promotion for this album, I am disappointed by this figure and thought the album would sell about 35-40,000.

At least this is another top 10 album in the bag for Stevie but I'm sure she'll be disappointed with that figure. I know though that the music business is in a terrible way but for an act like Stevie that is low.

For me, this album blows IYD out of the water and that's why I'm slightly disappointed as I want as many people as possible to hear this great record. :)

I still think it's pretty good. Technically, it charted higher than Rock a Little. But it sort of p!sses me off though that Barbie got to #1. :mad:

Jondalar
10-14-2014, 05:01 PM
Well it looks like '24 Karat Gold' will be at #8 on the Billboard 200 on sales of approximately 26,000, according to Hits Daily Double. That is precisely HALF of what 'In Your Dreams' sold 3 years ago. :shocked:

Personally, even though I know there has been very little promotion for this album, I am disappointed by this figure and thought the album would sell about 35-40,000.

At least this is another top 10 album in the bag for Stevie but I'm sure she'll be disappointed with that figure. I know though that the music business is in a terrible way but for an act like Stevie that is low.

For me, this album blows IYD out of the water and that's why I'm slightly disappointed as I want as many people as possible to hear this great record. :)

She did a lot more promotion for In Your Dreams the week it came out, and album sales are awful. She promoted IYD to death.

James89
10-14-2014, 05:09 PM
I still think it's pretty good. Technically, it charted higher than Rock a Little. But it sort of p!sses me off though that Barbie got to #1. :mad:

'Rock a Little' had longevity and sold well over a million copies. Though it only reached #12, it was around Christmas time which meant that sales were high.

I hope it doesn't plummet next week even though there's no reason why it shouldn't. IYD only dropped 10 places in its second week which is impressive for an act like Stevie but '24 Karat Gold' could well miss out on the top 40 in its second week and that would be embarrassing. :shocked:

Jondalar
10-14-2014, 05:19 PM
'Rock a Little' had longevity and sold well over a million copies. Though it only reached #12, it was around Christmas time which meant that sales were high.

I hope it doesn't plummet next week even though there's no reason why it shouldn't. IYD only dropped 10 places in its second week which is impressive for an act like Stevie but '24 Karat Gold' could well miss out on the top 40 in its second week and that would be embarrassing. :shocked:

rock a little went platinum after a month, shipments counted back then not actual sales

louielouie2000
10-14-2014, 05:43 PM
I'm honestly shocked the album broke the top 10- I wasn't expecting that. I'm proud of our girl. :thumbsup:

welcomechris
10-14-2014, 05:53 PM
I'm honestly shocked the album broke the top 10- I wasn't expecting that. I'm proud of our girl. :thumbsup:

I knew she'd hit the top ten, and I was hoping it would sell more then IYD or at least just as much :distress:

Jondalar
10-14-2014, 05:56 PM
I'm honestly shocked the album broke the top 10- I wasn't expecting that. I'm proud of our girl. :thumbsup:

Yeah, me too. It's very hard to sale records nowadays, especially for a 66 female rocker.

sorcerer999
10-14-2014, 05:58 PM
I'm also very happy! Number 8 is nothing to scoff at! Nobody buys music anymore. Everyone steals, borrows, and copies. The music industry SUCKS now...so the low sales here are not surprising!

Nothing presented here (being that Stevie debuted at #8) should be a negative reflection on her or this fabulous record she has given us!

I'm amazed and on cloud nine! So happy for her!!!:]:nod:

BlueDenimLamp
10-14-2014, 06:05 PM
HA! And to think it's being said elsewhere that Stevie's career is going down in flames...As I questioned quite a while back...What effect will her not being able to fully promote "24K" have on sales?

welcomechris
10-14-2014, 06:07 PM
Hopefully she'll peak higher when she decides to promote the album

BombaySapphire3
10-14-2014, 06:10 PM
Top ten is quite good for someone in Stevie's generation of rockers..to put it in perspective her biggest rival at the height of her solo career Pat Benatar has not seen the Billboard 200 top 10 since her Get Nervous album in 1982.

mitzo
10-14-2014, 06:13 PM
So the 26,000 is sales for the first week? Includes downloads and vinyls and everything?

This could conceivably hit 100K sales over time. I mean, I bought 3 versions myself....

James89
10-14-2014, 06:16 PM
Hopefully she'll peak higher when she decides to promote the album

With the FM tour in full swing she simply doesn't have the time. The FM tour has a weeks break at the start of November before they go to Canada but I doubt she'll do the rounds in that time.

I wonder if Mick will help her out when doing his book promotion? I know he's promoting his book and I wonder if he'll mention the fact that he's the subject of a couple of tracks on the album. :shrug:

BombaySapphire3
10-14-2014, 06:19 PM
With the FM tour in full swing she simply doesn't have the time. The FM tour has a weeks break at the start of November before they go to Canada but I doubt she'll do the rounds in that time.



The ongoing Fleetwood Mac tour will make her many millions ..24KG maybe some pocket change.

James89
10-14-2014, 06:29 PM
So the 26,000 is sales for the first week? Includes downloads and vinyls and everything?

This could conceivably hit 100K sales over time. I mean, I bought 3 versions myself....

The only way this album will sell 100,000 or more is with longevity.

IYD managed 16 weeks on the Billboard 200 due to all of the shows she was on at the time. I remember that whenever she was on say 'American Idol', the album would be back up to #150 or so.

If this album gets no more promotion then it's going to be a pretty steep decline in sales from now on.

We will be able to see how no promotion is affecting the albums sales next week. If it is still within the top 40 then I predict it'll last about 6 weeks in total on the Billboard 200. If it is at about #60 or lower then it'll last only a couple of weeks.

I predict that it'll be at around #35 next week and it'll last about 6 weeks on the Billboard 200. I don't think it'll get to 100,000 very easily. I hope it does though! :)

Christopher
10-14-2014, 06:31 PM
:thumbsup:24 Karat Gold selling @26K is great! It's exactly where, initially, I expected her first week sales to be 3.5 yrs after IYD. Record sales (as everyone should understand) are even more is the toilet than 2011, so most acts are selling half of what they sold previously. So the sheer fact that she pulled off another top 10 record is really incredible -- Her 6th solo top 10 album & her 7th top 10 album with FM = 13 top 10 records between solo & FM - I wonder if that's a record (solo & group top 10 albums)??

Pre-promotion was decent. Post-promotion will be non-existent. Esp. since it's now all about the FM tour. But , make no mistake aboit it, 24 Karat Gold will be an important part of Stevies' recording legacy

He's So Unusual
10-14-2014, 06:35 PM
Sales are rubbish at the moment, but a top 10 album is a top 10 album. Go Stevie!

Christopher
10-14-2014, 06:40 PM
The ongoing Fleetwood Mac tour will make her many millions ..24KG maybe some pocket change.

It's all about her legacy now. 24 Karat Gold is IMPORTANT in the breadth of Stevies solo recording catalog. What other 66 something are still hitting the top 10 with original material without having to resign her creativity doing a cringe-worthy predictable "duets", or "covers" ?? They're are only a handful, and even less woman in that category.

PenguinHead
10-14-2014, 06:57 PM
HA! And to think it's being said elsewhere that Stevie's career is going down in flames...As I questioned quite a while back...What effect will her not being able to fully promote "24K" have on sales?

Who is saying her career is going down in flames? :shrug:

James89
10-14-2014, 07:00 PM
It's all about her legacy now. This record is IMPORTANT in the landscape & scope of her recording output. What other 65+something are still hitting the top 10 with original material (not some predictable "covers" or "duets" b.s.) Bruce, TP, Cher, Stevie ...even Jackson Brown couldn't quite keep up with "The reingning Queen of Rock 'n Roll.)

Cher sold a lot more than Stevie and Barbra's new album is doing INCREDIBLY well. I do think that it has a lot to do with the young and successful artists that she's duetting with though.

Bob Seger is predicted to sell about 50,000 copies of his new album next week. I wonder if he's been promoting it?

What really gets to me is the fact that if Stevie promoted this album then it could've sold about 40,000 and would've gone top 5 which would've made her look fantastic and would've shown how incredibly popular she still is. (Though top 10 is still pretty good).

The fact is, 26,000 copies of '24 Karat Gold' were bought from people who either heard a song off of the album and liked it or from people who just like Stevie and the album itself. It wasn't Stevie trying really hard to promote it or someone pushing the fact that 'The new album from Stevie Nicks is out now. BUY IT!!!'

The fact that Stevie can put together an album in two months, go on a phenomenally successful tour, throw out a solo record, do very little/no promotion for it and it goes top 10!
Now THAT is pretty cool. :cool:

Jondalar
10-14-2014, 07:04 PM
Cher sold a lot more than Stevie and Barbra's new album is doing INCREDIBLY well. I do think that it has a lot to do with the young and successful artists that she's duetting with though.

Bob Seger is predicted to sell about 50,000 copies of his new album next week. I wonder if he's been promoting it?

What really gets to me is the fact that if Stevie promoted this album then it could've sold about 40,000 and would've gone top 5 which would've made her look fantastic and would've shown how incredibly popular she still is. (Though top 10 is still pretty good).

The fact is, 26,000 copies of '24 Karat Gold' were bought from people who either heard a song off of the album and liked it or from people who just like Stevie and the album itself. It wasn't Stevie trying really hard to promote it or someone pushing the fact that 'The new album from Stevie Nicks is out now. BUY IT!!!'

The fact that Stevie can put together an album in two months, go on a phenomenally successful tour, throw out a solo record, do very little/no promotion for it and it goes top 10!
Now THAT is pretty cool. :cool:

Cher and Barbara are also movie stars. They have a much larger fan base.

Top 5 doesn't matter. Top 10 only matters with singles. Albums are different - Top 10 does not count as much. Longevity counts.

James89
10-14-2014, 07:12 PM
Cher and Barbara are also movie stars. They have a much larger fan base.

Top 5 doesn't matter. Top 10 only matters with singles. Albums are different - Top 10 does not count as much. Longevity counts.

And I doubt this album will have much longevity. There's no way of guessing how long it'll stay around on the charts but I hope her legendary status will help the album stay around for a while.

Jondalar
10-14-2014, 07:16 PM
And I doubt this album will have much longevity. There's no way of guessing how long it'll stay around on the charts but I hope her legendary status will help the album stay around for a while.

In this case, I don't care. She came up with a great product. If people, fans alike, want to bird**** all over it than they are daft.

Songs for Seagull by Joni Mitchell never went gold. Many great albums have not. Street Angel went Gold. Doesn't make sense.

BlueLight
10-14-2014, 07:28 PM
I am thrilled - and Stevie should be too. No need to repeat all of the great comments on this thread, but bottom line for me is that the record industry is dying a slow death in terms of album sales. For Stevie to create, as she correctly called it, a great album, in such a short period of time, and for it to debut in the Top 10 while she's on a world tour with her band, is truly a great accomplishment. :thumbsup: It's an important record for her legacy, and hopefully a sign of things to come.

James89
10-14-2014, 07:31 PM
In this case, I don't care. She came up with a great product. If people, fans alike, want to bird**** all over it than they are daft.

Songs for Seagull by Joni Mitchell never went gold. Many great albums have not. Street Angel went Gold. Doesn't make sense.

That was only shipments. I think they were predicting it to sell a hell of a lot more than it did. It's only sold about 30k more than IYD!

I'm just interested in album sales and I agree that this is a fantastic album. Now that Stevie doesn't seem to care about sales, I hope there'll be a 'Vol 2' and hopefully it'll be just as good as this one.

Also, in the commentary video posted on YouTube for 'All The Beautiful Worlds', Stevie says that it'll be great on stage. Is that her admitting an upcoming solo tour? :shrug:

Jondalar
10-14-2014, 07:35 PM
That was only shipments. I think they were predicting it to sell a hell of a lot more than it did. It's only sold about 30k more than IYD!

I'm just interested in album sales and I agree that this is a fantastic album. Now that Stevie doesn't seem to care about sales, I hope there'll be a 'Vol 2' and hopefully it'll be just as good as this one.

Also, in the commentary video posted on YouTube for 'All The Beautiful Worlds', Stevie says that it'll be great on stage. Is that her admitting an upcoming solo tour? :shrug:

Street Angel only went gold right after the Dance. The Other Side of the Mirror went platinum. TimeSpace went platinum. The Dance helped her out a lot.

welcomechris
10-14-2014, 07:36 PM
That was only shipments. I think they were predicting it to sell a hell of a lot more than it did. It's only sold about 30k more than IYD!

I'm just interested in album sales and I agree that this is a fantastic album. Now that Stevie doesn't seem to care about sales, I hope there'll be a 'Vol 2' and hopefully it'll be just as good as this one.

Also, in the commentary video posted on YouTube for 'All The Beautiful Worlds', Stevie says that it'll be great on stage. Is that her admitting an upcoming solo tour? :shrug:

She said herself in January

I'm Looking forward to 2 tours next year

BlueLight
10-14-2014, 07:36 PM
That was only shipments. I think they were predicting it to sell a hell of a lot more than it did. It's only sold about 30k more than IYD!

I'm just interested in album sales and I agree that this is a fantastic album. Now that Stevie doesn't seem to care about sales, I hope there'll be a 'Vol 2' and hopefully it'll be just as good as this one.

Also, in the commentary video posted on YouTube for 'All The Beautiful Worlds', Stevie says that it'll be great on stage. Is that her admitting an upcoming solo tour? :shrug:

She also noted that these were the best songs "for this year, for 2014," and that he she has many, many more songs in the vault. I wouldn't be surprised if she went back to Nashville in late 2015. :thumbsup:

BlueDenimLamp
10-14-2014, 07:37 PM
Who is saying her career is going down in flames? :shrug:

"People are not thrilled by her anymore, she is going down in flames and her fans are applauding"

The quote is in the "Stevie's not on board" thread

James89
10-14-2014, 07:42 PM
"People are not thrilled by her anymore, she is going down in flames and her fans are applauding"

The quote is in the "Stevie's not on board" thread

Well that's bull****. You can't have a ruined career and have a top 10 album that's had little/no promotion. This person needs to get their facts and figures correct before they make silly comments like that.

tabruns
10-14-2014, 09:33 PM
Street Angel only went gold right after the Dance. The Other Side of the Mirror went platinum. TimeSpace went platinum. The Dance helped her out a lot.

Yeah it definitely goosed her sales. It was great to see those certifications roll in.

When Street Angel peaked at something like 45 I honestly thought Nicks would never see another Top 10 album, so the fact that she's on track to achieve 3 in a row is very impressive.

PenguinHead
10-14-2014, 10:00 PM
:. But , make no mistake aboit it, 24 Karat Gold will be an important part of Stevies' recording legacy

It's already an important part of her legacy. It's fine to monitor and obsess over sales and charts figures, but the quality/integrity of the music is what matters most. Stevie has succeeded on that front.

I wonder if there are any other plans to promote the album; maybe Dave has some creative idea planned. The reviews have been good, so that's promotion in itself. I wish Rolling Stone would feature her on the cover, as sort of a updated full circle version of her cover in 1981.

James89
10-15-2014, 10:11 AM
Well as usual, Billboard is quite a bit different to Hits Daily Double!

Apparently, the album has debuted at #7 with sales of 33,000, not #8 with sales of 26,000. That's a bit of a difference.

Oh well, even better news! :]

JimSATX
10-15-2014, 10:14 AM
From Billboard:

Rock legend Stevie Nicks nets her sixth top 10 solo album, as her quasi-archival release 24 Karat Gold: Songs From the Vault set starts at No. 7 (33,000). The set consists of newly-recorded material that was written and recorded in demo versions in earlier years. 24 Karat Gold follows Nicks' In Your Dreams, which debuted (and peaked) at No. 6 back in 2011 (52,000 sold in its first week).

gypsy333
10-15-2014, 10:43 AM
Congratulations Stevie!!!

Jondalar
10-15-2014, 10:47 AM
Great news! Bet the extra figures were from the Warner Brother site.

James89
10-15-2014, 10:48 AM
Great news! Bet the extra figures were from the Warner Brother site.

Could well be. :)

Tango
10-15-2014, 10:52 AM
Thanks for the news James89! Way to go Stevie! :thumbsup: What's good for Stevie is good for Fleetwood Mac, too.

Johnny Stew
10-15-2014, 10:58 AM
Way to go, Stevie! :thumbsup:

Christopher
10-15-2014, 11:00 AM
From Billboard:
Rock legend Stevie Nicks nets her sixth top 10 solo album, as her quasi-archival release 24 Karat Gold: Songs From the Vault set starts at :thumbsup:. The set consists of newly-recorded material that was written and recorded in demo versions in earlier years. 24 Karat Gold follows Nicks' In Your Dreams, which debuted (and peaked) at No. 6 back in 2011 (52,000 sold in its first week).

That's more like it! #7 is a solid, and respectable debut for "24 Karat Gold!" Stevie should be very proud. :thumbsup: :D

James89
10-15-2014, 11:06 AM
That's more like it! #7 is a solid, and respectable debut for "24 Karat Gold!" Stevie should be very proud. :thumbsup: :D

I actually think she might be surprised by this. I'm very pleased. I just pray for a respectable second week! :)

DauphineMarie
10-15-2014, 11:24 AM
http://41.media.tumblr.com/6d3bd77a7a1c8a73f901bec905cbeb6a/tumblr_mn98x0Ligv1qcaugio6_400.jpg

GOOO Stevie!
(credit to goldduststevie (http://goldduststevie.tumblr.com/))

SpyNote
10-15-2014, 11:27 AM
Way to go, Stevie! :thumbsup:

Agreed! Another Top 10 album for Stevie. As long as she keeps recording music, this will give her peers more reason to induct her into the RRHoF as a solo artist one day.

There's nothing to be disappointed about because 1) 24 Karat Gold was marketed as a retrospective and 2) albums don't sell nearly what they used to anymore. It is very rare, even for the biggest acts, to hit gold status today. People who are comparing sales figures from 10 years ago have not adjusted to the reality that music sales have been steadily going down. Artists only sell a fraction of what they used to. Stevie is also a legacy artist, so her sales are not going to be what they used to be (something fans have always, understandably, had a hard time accepting).

I completely disagree about the promotion. Reprise did a great job with keeping fans occupied. They offered different versions of the album, released three digital singles with accompanying musics videos, and issued numerous samples of the album up until its release. Stevie also did video commentary for the album. And now she's on The Voice, the most popular reality TV show on primetime TV. Everyone's been working pretty hard.

Hawkeye
10-15-2014, 11:53 AM
^^^^^^it would be really great if 24 karat gold could get any sort of mention on said #1 reality show. Kind of pointless just to have her on there giving her crazy commentaries with no mention of her new album.

DauphineMarie
10-15-2014, 11:59 AM
^^^^^^it would be really great if 24 karat gold could get any sort of mention on said #1 reality show. Kind of pointless just to have her on there giving her crazy commentaries with no mention of her new album.

I'm hoping she'll make a comment like "You know, when I was your age in 1971 and living with this gorgeous guy with blue eyes, I wrote a song called Lady which I recently released on an album (hint hint) and your performance reminded me of that song - Snoopy thanks you" or something along those lines. ;)

BombaySapphire3
10-15-2014, 02:00 PM
Good news! this means the album charted higher than Rock a Little and The Other Side of the Mirror and ties Tango in the Night which despite it's multi- platinum sales and bumper crop of hit single only made it to number 7.

sorcerer999
10-15-2014, 07:55 PM
TISL was #5
IYD was #6
24KG is #7

...I'm sensing a pattern here! :lol:

#7 is awesome news!!! Go Stevie!!!

Jondalar
10-16-2014, 04:58 AM
TISL was #5
IYD was #6
24KG is #7

...I'm sensing a pattern here! :lol:

#7 is awesome news!!! Go Stevie!!!

Yeah but out of those three albums, 24k had the least promotion. TISL had The Dance behind it and huge VH1 promotion.

Funny how things works. This is the album people should hear.

Macfanforever
10-16-2014, 11:19 AM
I'm glad that she's got what she's got.She had to weed through the young artists to get there.

I always said IYD would of done better if she did not bother touring with Rod before the release.She was sick and could not promote it when it was released.

jwd
10-16-2014, 02:59 PM
TISL was #5
IYD was #6
24KG is #7

...I'm sensing a pattern here! :lol:

#7 is awesome news!!! Go Stevie!!!

All the same baby, all the same. Top 10 is an awesome achievement for her.

jcalzaretta
10-16-2014, 04:31 PM
and Rumours at 83

Greatest Hits at 121

VBoFM at 148

Jondalar
10-16-2014, 04:43 PM
it bothers me she only has 10 reviews in Metacritic. Some people aren't even review album.

michelej1
10-16-2014, 06:53 PM
It actually took me two years to get into this album. But I think it holds up over time. The only songs I don't like now, I didn't like 10 years ago either: That Made Me Stronger and Every Day. I don't like FFG, but I realize it needs to be there. An album needs a rocker. To me whether it's FFG or I Don't Care doesn't make much difference.

I think the other 10 songs on the album are pretty timeless and I'm still fond of the maligned Too Far From Texas. In fact, it was the first song that I liked on the album, before the others turned my head.

Michele

James89
10-20-2014, 02:00 PM
Bad news I'm afraid. Hits Daily Double has had an album sales update and '24 Karat Gold' is currently at #47. That's a colossal drop from its debut.

I know that HDD counts album sales from different sources as they update so there is every chance that the album could increase from this number.

There will likely be another update in a few hours so I'll keep everyone updated. I hope it rises from this position though otherwise the album won't last very long at all. :distress:

Jondalar
10-20-2014, 02:03 PM
Bad news I'm afraid. Hits Daily Double has had an album sales update and '24 Karat Gold' is currently at #47. That's a colossal drop from its debut.

I know that HDD counts album sales from different sources as they update so there is every chance that the album could increase from this number.

There will likely be another update in a few hours so I'll keep everyone updated. I hope it rises from this position though otherwise the album won't last very long at all. :distress:

Well it's not like 5000 copies for 14 place was a lot anyway.

James89
10-20-2014, 02:10 PM
Well it's not like 5000 copies for 14 place was a lot anyway.

That's the UK. I'm talking about the US.

Jondalar
10-20-2014, 02:11 PM
That's the UK. I'm talking about the US.

More good news :(

pryderi
10-20-2014, 08:13 PM
From Billboard:

Rock legend Stevie Nicks nets her sixth top 10 solo album, as her quasi-archival release 24 Karat Gold: Songs From the Vault set starts at No. 7 (33,000). The set consists of newly-recorded material that was written and recorded in demo versions in earlier years. 24 Karat Gold follows Nicks' In Your Dreams, which debuted (and peaked) at No. 6 back in 2011 (52,000 sold in its first week).

It's ironic that she has 33,809 youtube subscribers.

Bandon
10-20-2014, 08:25 PM
The only way Stevie is going to sell albums big time these days without hit singles like Babs is by way of FM...period. Figures crossed. :nod: