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James89
09-19-2014, 05:45 PM
Prediction time! Now that we've heard a few songs from the album and we have seen how promotion has been getting along, how well do we think '24 Karat Gold ~ Songs From The Vault' will do on the US charts and how many copies will it sell in its first week?
MikeInNV
09-19-2014, 06:01 PM
The thing about chart position is that it's so variable depending on the competition that week. Just a few weeks ago, IYD's first-week numbers would have landed it at No. 2.
Another thing I'm wondering about is the vinyl release one week followed by the CD release a week later. Then you have to factor in the digital sales. Are the sales going to be split over a two-week period, thereby lessening the chart impact? I know that sort of thing isn't supposed to be important, but with all the buzz the album is getting, it deserves to make a splash.
James89
09-19-2014, 06:16 PM
The thing about chart position is that it's so variable depending on the competition that week. Just a few weeks ago, IYD's first-week numbers would have landed it at No. 2.
Another thing I'm wondering about is the vinyl release one week followed by the CD release a week later. Then you have to factor in the digital sales. Are the sales going to be split over a two-week period, thereby lessening the chart impact? I know that sort of thing isn't supposed to be important, but with all the buzz the album is getting, it deserves to make a splash.
The early vinyl release is really confusing me. I don't see the vinyl sales being allowed to make the album chart a week before the CD and digital release as it would probably debut at about #100 and that isn't good publicity. I think they will just combine it, if they can, to get the best first week sales figure and position they can get. Does anyone know if they can include vinyl sales in the total figure a week later? :shrug:
Macfanforever
09-19-2014, 06:40 PM
The early vinyl release is really confusing me. I don't see the vinyl sales being allowed to make the album chart a week before the CD and digital release as it would probably debut at about #100 and that isn't good publicity. I think they will just combine it, if they can, to get the best first week sales figure and position they can get. Does anyone know if they can include vinyl sales in the total figure a week later? :shrug:
Thats a good question James.The sales of vinyl,CD and digital downloads should be merged together when it hits the charts.
I have a good feeling this outing will sell great since Stevie is doing her saleswoman position routine to peddle her music and the FM tour will help sales too.I hope the rest of the band will let her plug and mention her album at the shows.
KarmaContestant
09-19-2014, 06:43 PM
The early vinyl release is really confusing me. I don't see the vinyl sales being allowed to make the album chart a week before the CD and digital release as it would probably debut at about #100 and that isn't good publicity. I think they will just combine it, if they can, to get the best first week sales figure and position they can get. Does anyone know if they can include vinyl sales in the total figure a week later? :shrug:
Billboard has a vinyl chart, too. It could be a strategy to top the vinyl charts one week, and instead of a week two drop, she gets a huge boost from digital and CD sales on the regular Rock charts..
http://www.billboard.com/biz/charts/vinyl-albums
I don't know what the rules are, though, about a staggered release or how it's counted.
Jondalar
09-19-2014, 06:45 PM
Billboard has a vinyl chart, too. It could be a strategy to top the vinyl charts one week, and instead of a week two drop, she gets a huge boost from digital and CD sales on the regular Rock charts..
http://www.billboard.com/biz/charts/vinyl-albums
I don't know what the rules are, though, about a staggered release or how it's counted.
I bought the vinyl and I don't even have a record player... :)
KenshiMaster16
09-19-2014, 07:07 PM
Seeing as it's basically a collection of rarities, I don't think this is gonna get Top 10. Top 20 is more of a probability. However, I still think this on the off chance can hit the Top 10. It just depends on whether people even realize it's out besides those who just scan through iTunes every Tuesday and still go into record shops (sorry, CD stores lol).
Hopefully all of the Mac publicity this year though makes people more aware of its release.
BlueDenimLamp
09-19-2014, 07:15 PM
Stevie's run on "The Voice" should start soon so that should help as well...She's also getting extra press from her art showing...
Jondalar
09-19-2014, 07:16 PM
With this album and IYDs, talking about sales will only disappoint. She is in her 60s and there is no place to promote. Look at the creative. She is still working on her legacy and these two albums are going in the positive column. Just thinking about sales is putting a damper on this. Sheryl Crows last album was a total bomb and she did get a lot of airplay on country stations. Just gotta enjoy the music.
She made this album for her true fans.
SpyNote
09-19-2014, 09:05 PM
Seeing as it's basically a collection of rarities, I don't think this is gonna get Top 10. Top 20 is more of a probability. However, I still think this on the off chance can hit the Top 10. It just depends on whether people even realize it's out besides those who just scan through iTunes every Tuesday and still go into record shops (sorry, CD stores lol).
Hopefully all of the Mac publicity this year though makes people more aware of its release.
I agree. Retrospectives always sell less than new work, though it can be argued that everything on 24 Karat Gold is new to the general public! If it debuts in the Top 10, I will be pleasantly surprised.
MikeInNV
09-19-2014, 09:12 PM
I agree. Retrospectives always sell less than new work, though it can be argued that everything on 24 Karat Gold is new to the general public! If it debuts in the Top 10, I will be pleasantly surprised.
I don't see this as a retrospective in the traditional sense. As you said, everything is new to the general public, and the superfans who have collected the demos all these years will be buying it anyway, so I don't think the audience is diminished much.
WildHearted
09-19-2014, 09:23 PM
I think she'll sell right around 60,000 but where that will land her on the charts is totally up in the air. I think definitely she'll make the top 10 though.
Although I will say, I think the "Songs From The Vault" clause in the title of the album might not do her any favors, sale-wise. It makes it seem like it's a compilation of deep cuts or something, not new material (which it IS, in the sense that it's never been released before).
Macfanforever
09-19-2014, 09:29 PM
Stevie's run on "The Voice" should start soon so that should help as well...She's also getting extra press from her art showing...
Yes .I forgot to mention that .
I do believe this release is going to do very well. There has never been a solo release as the band is about to go on a tour ( let alone a " reunion" tour) Stevie also mentions Fleetwood Mac more on these recent interviews than she has on past releases. I really doubt there will be a solo tour to promote this disc in 2015. I still think the New a Fleetwood Mac Album will be released in the late spring of 2015 and the MAC tour will continue ( assuming all in good health)
sorcerer999
09-19-2014, 09:52 PM
I really doubt there will be a solo tour to promote this disc in 2015.
Well, if this Sharon Celani Instagram account is indeed legit, then Stevie should do a solo tour to promote this record in summer 2015...or so she says.
Well, if this Sharon Celani Instagram account is indeed legit, then Stevie should do a solo tour to promote this record in summer 2015...or so she says.
I don't about how legit it is but I think Fleetwood Mac has to be touring somewhere if they release their new recordings. I guess we will see.:shrug:
tabruns
09-19-2014, 11:14 PM
I agree. Retrospectives always sell less than new work, though it can be argued that everything on 24 Karat Gold is new to the general public! If it debuts in the Top 10, I will be pleasantly surprised.
This isn't really a retrospective though in that these songs have largely not been officially released. Some of them are quite familiar to intense Nicks fans but to more casual listeners they'll all be brand new. Heck, I never heard of "Secret Love" before IYD...so even fans that own everything Nicks puts out may not have heard some of these demos.
HoursAndHours
09-20-2014, 11:49 AM
I don't about how legit it is but I think Fleetwood Mac has to be touring somewhere if they release their new recordings. I guess we will see.:shrug:
I thought they had two rounds of touring lined up. I guess I just assumed the new FM album would come out between the two tours, the first being a "reunion" tour and the second being a promotional tour for the new record. :shrug:
I thought they had two rounds of touring lined up. I guess I just assumed the new FM album would come out between the two tours, the first being a "reunion" tour and the second being a promotional tour for the new record. :shrug:
Exactly what I'm thinking. There will be no tour in 2015 to support 24 KG. The Fleetwood Mac tour will support it and then the new MAC album will be released and the tour will continue.
welcomechris
09-20-2014, 01:28 PM
Exactly what I'm thinking. There will be no tour in 2015 to support 24 KG. The Fleetwood Mac tour will support it and then the new MAC album will be released and the your will continue.
Stevie said 2 tours next year
pryderi
09-20-2014, 02:23 PM
I have this strange feeling we will all be surprised.
pryderi
09-20-2014, 02:34 PM
pleasantly suprised
He's So Unusual
09-21-2014, 12:43 PM
I'm predicting lower end of the top 10 on the Billboard 200 with little longevity. I doubt it will do much outside of the US. Anyway, the main thing is the music which is sounding really good so far.
Macfanforever
09-21-2014, 07:31 PM
Stevie said 2 tours next year
I hope so.But I hope she does not overdo herself.
James89
10-15-2014, 11:10 AM
Well it looks like the majority of the voters were right!
Stevie has debuted at #7 with sales of 33,000 so I think that falls under the 'around or more than 40,000 and will be around the top 5'. :)
tabruns
10-15-2014, 08:37 PM
I'd love to see "Blue Water" become an actual real country chart hit.
michelej1
10-15-2014, 08:59 PM
I'd love to see "Blue Water" become an actual real country chart hit.
I think it can. Like when is the next CMT show or something? She needs to perform Blue Water with Lady Antebellum on a nationally televised show, then get the country radio airplay. I think it could be a hit.
Michele
BlueDenimLamp
10-15-2014, 09:16 PM
I'd love to see "Blue Water" become an actual real country chart hit.
I think it can. Like when is the next CMT show or something? She needs to perform Blue Water with Lady Antebellum on a nationally televised show, then get the country radio airplay. I think it could be a hit.
Michele
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Honored to sing w/ good friend <a href="https://twitter.com/StevieNicks">@StevieNicks</a> on "Blue Water" off her
fantastic new album <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/24KaratGold?src=hash">#24KaratGold</a> Check it out! <a href="http://t.co/2Img7pp9nh">http://t.co/2Img7pp9nh</a></p>— Lady Antebellum (@ladyantebellum) <a href="https://twitter.com/ladyantebellum/status/519512557590437888">October 7, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
They did give her a shout out and it would be a smart move on her part to perform "Blue Water" with them at a televised country event or even just showing up at one of their concerts so the performance would end up on youtube...
tabruns
10-15-2014, 09:54 PM
I'm predicting lower end of the top 10 on the Billboard 200 with little longevity. I doubt it will do much outside of the US. Anyway, the main thing is the music which is sounding really good so far.
Interestingly, it's been doing quite well outside the US....top 20 debuts in Australia, UK, elsewhere
PenguinHead
10-18-2014, 12:25 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Honored to sing w/ good friend <a href="https://twitter.com/StevieNicks">@StevieNicks</a> on "Blue Water" off her
fantastic new album <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/24KaratGold?src=hash">#24KaratGold</a> Check it out! <a href="http://t.co/2Img7pp9nh">http://t.co/2Img7pp9nh</a></p>— Lady Antebellum (@ladyantebellum) <a href="https://twitter.com/ladyantebellum/status/519512557590437888">October 7, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
They did give her a shout out and it would be a smart move on her part to perform "Blue Water" with them at a televised country event or even just showing up at one of their concerts so the performance would end up on youtube...
Great idea! I hope she takes advantage of that opportunity. But given her track record of bad timing and missed or overlooked opportunities, I wouldn't bet on it.
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