Christine-Denis album?

[aleuzzi]

I just read the following tidbit in a FM article at khits.com:

Did you know?

• In the late-1970s Christine McVie laid down an album's worth of professionally recorded demos and full blown studio tracks both written and performed with then-boyfriend, the late Beach Boys drummer Dennis Wilson.
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How true is this? I apologize if this has been discussed and/or noticed here before.

[michelej1]

Well, Richard seems like he was pretty close to Dennis. This might be something he can elaborate on.

Michele

[aleuzzi]

Well, Richard seems like he was pretty close to Dennis. This might be something he can elaborate on.

Michele

Good point. I'll ask. But I've already asked him two questions without an answer.

[jbrownsjr]

I just read the following tidbit in a FM article at khits.com:

Did you know?

• In the late-1970s Christine McVie laid down an album's worth of professionally recorded demos and full blown studio tracks both written and performed with then-boyfriend, the late Beach Boys drummer Dennis Wilson.
...................

How true is this? I apologize if this has been discussed and/or noticed here before.

I've never heard any of this. This is exciting.

[FuzzyPlum]

I can't believe this would be true.
That's not something that can be hidden away with no mention for 35 years.
...however, if it were true then those recordings would be a treasure trove.
I've just asked 'Dickdash'

[aleuzzi]

Here's another tidbit on it from http://www.ask4direct.com/InfoRead.asp?id=WLER&InfoID=935907:


"In the late-'70s Christine McVie laid down an album's worth of professionally recorded demos and full-blown studio tracks both written and performed with then-boyfriend, the late Beach Boy Dennis Wilson.

McVie is in possession of the tapes and so far, has not allowed them to be released in any form."

And this tidbit, from http://www.1057thepoint.com/news/music-news/foo-fighters-drummer-teams-late-beach-boy-dennis-wilson-virtual-track:

"Prior to Wilson's drowning death in 1983, he was continuing to record, both in collaboration with longtime girlfriend Christine McVie, who controls the masters to their joint work, and with his brother Brian Wilson on a series of songs which exist in various states of completion."

[michelej1]

It's a shame for them never to see the light of day. If she's worried about the quality she could explain that they aren't finished and are not what they envisioned upon completion at all, but still let the world hear the raw material. I mean Dennis' fans would love it as much as her fans would.

Michele

[PenguinHead]

It's a shame for them never to see the light of day. If she's worried about the quality she could explain that they aren't finished and are not what they envisioned upon completion at all, but still let the world hear the raw material. I mean Dennis' fans would love it as much as her fans would.

Michele

I agree. Of course we would like to hear it. But just because we know it exists doesn't mean everyone is entitled to hear it or for it be released. If you started to create something, abandoned it in mid-process, leaving it unfinished/underdeveloped and substandard, why would you have any motivation to expose it the world?

No one predicted the internet, or that it would allow lots of unreleased stuff to be shared so freely and easily. We've come to expect that as the norm - nothing is off limits. Unless Christine or Dennis shared their work-in-progress by disseminating it on cassettes to all of their friends (like Stevie Nicks did ). Only if someone gets hold of track reels (if they even exist) and posts them online, will they ever see the light of day.

[aleuzzi]

I agree. Of course we would like to hear it. But just because we know it exists doesn't mean everyone is entitled to hear it or for it be released. If you started to create something, abandoned it in mid-process, leaving it unfinished/underdeveloped and substandard, why would you have any motivation to expose it the world?

No one predicted the internet, or that it would allow lots of unreleased stuff to be shared so freely and easily. We've come to expect that as the norm - nothing is off limits. Unless Christine or Dennis shared their work-in-progress by disseminating it on cassettes to all of their friends (like Stevie Nicks did ). Only if someone gets hold of track reels (if they even exist) and posts them online, will they ever see the light of day.

I agree. What happened with Jimi Hendrix's posthumous releases was unsavory. One difference: some of the music is "full-blown studio tracks."

However, I wonder why this information is surfacing now. I suspect Christine herself has informed journalists of the music and is putting out an initial buzz about it in her typical maybe/maybe not fashion. This is, remember, how news of her solo album began to surface.

A boy can dream, can't he?

[jbrownsjr]

I agree. What happened with Jimi Hendrix's posthumous releases was unsavory. One difference: some of the music is "full-blown studio tracks."

However, I wonder why this information is surfacing now. I suspect Christine herself has informed journalists of the music and is putting out an initial buzz about it in her typical maybe/maybe not fashion. This is, remember, how news of her solo album began to surface.

A boy can dream, can't he?

How did news of her solo album surface? I can't remember.

[chiliD]

It's a shame for them never to see the light of day. If she's worried about the quality she could explain that they aren't finished and are not what they envisioned upon completion at all, but still let the world hear the raw material. I mean Dennis' fans would love it as much as her fans would.

Michele

Christine is on a couple of the "bonus tracks" from Dennis' re-released "Pacific Ocean Blue" CD.

I swear I even hear her on the song "Love Surrounds Me" on the Beach Boys' Light Album:

http://eil.com/images/main/Beach+Boys+-+L.+A.+%5BLight+Album%5D+-+CD+ALBUM-438734.jpg

[macfan 57]

Christine is on a couple of the "bonus tracks" from Dennis' re-released "Pacific Ocean Blue" CD.

I swear I even hear her on the song "Love Surrounds Me" on the Beach Boys' Light Album:

http://eil.com/images/main/Beach+Boys+-+L.+A.+%5BLight+Album%5D+-+CD+ALBUM-438734.jpg

That is Chris on "Love Surrounds Me" from the Light Album. There is also another version of the same song with Chris on one of the bonus tracks from Pacific Ocean Blue. I think that's the only one of the bonus tracks that she's on. Here is a picture of her & Dennis that's in the booklet from the re-release. Here's also another picture of Christine
with Richard Dashut. She's wearing the same shirt in both pictures. They could be from the same studio sessions with Dennis. I hope Richard will answer the question about this possible album that Chris & Dennis were working on. I have a feeling that he may have been with them in the studio. Imagine a Christine McVie/Dennis Wilson album produced by Richard Dashut!

[aleuzzi]

How did news of her solo album surface? I can't remember.

It began with second- and third-hand reporting, little tidbits that did not come directly from Christine of her publicists. Not until the album was near release did she actually begin to acknowledge it was happening.

[jbrownsjr]

I remember seeing that photo of her on Sanctuary Records. "New Albums: Christine McVie"

We should have known she was going to get the bug to write again. I just wish she hadn't waited 10 years after, "In The Meantime"

Which keeps getting better to my ears.

[FuzzyPlum]

It's a shame for them never to see the light of day. If she's worried about the quality she could explain that they aren't finished and are not what they envisioned upon completion at all, but still let the world hear the raw material. I mean Dennis' fans would love it as much as her fans would.

Michele

If anything does exist...
...I'm thinking of the 'Free As A Bird'/'Real Love' Beatles recordings for Anthology. For those songs Jeff Lynne had very little to work with. However, if there's any seed of quality then with modern music technology you can make something worthwhile out of very little.

Bl**dy hell, I've just realised Anthology was nearly twenty years ago! Where did the time go?

[aleuzzi]

... I just wish he hadn't waited 10 years after, "In The Meantime"

Which keeps getting better to my ears.

It certainly does! Love it.

[PenguinHead]

I agree. What happened with Jimi Hendrix's posthumous releases was unsavory. One difference: some of the music is "full-blown studio tracks."

However, I wonder why this information is surfacing now. I suspect Christine herself has informed journalists of the music and is putting out an initial buzz about it in her typical maybe/maybe not fashion. This is, remember, how news of her solo album began to surface.

A boy can dream, can't he?

It was a good thing when Jimi Hendrix's family got full control of his estate. They have done a good job handling the the release of his unreleased material.

Why would you think Christine would be talking to the press about sessions she did with Dennis Wilson decades ago? How is that relative to where she is now?

[FuzzyPlum]

Hmmmm. I've twice now asked Richard about this (and I'm sure others have too) and so far he hasn't responded. This makes me think there could be some truth there after all. If there was no truth to it (or if he just didn't know) then I'd have expected him to come out and say so.

[michelej1]

Hmmmm. I've twice now asked Richard about this (and I'm sure others have too) and so far he hasn't responded. This makes me think there could be some truth there after all. If there was no truth to it (or if he just didn't know) then I'd have expected him to come out and say so.

With the number of questions he gets, it's hard for me to even conclude he saw the question, though it may have come from several people.

Michele

[aleuzzi]

Why would you think Christine would be talking to the press about sessions she did with Dennis Wilson decades ago? How is that relative to where she is now?

She might want to release them. Why wouldn't it be relative to where she is now? She's returned, she is determined to blaze. I seriously doubt this information would have just emerged without some sort of acknowledgment or prompting from her. Otherwise, we would have heard of it before. Just my read on it.

[FuzzyPlum]

With the number of questions he gets, it's hard for me to even conclude he saw the question, though it may have come from several people.

Michele

I seem to have a pretty good thing going with him now. He tends to answer about two thirds of the questions I ask (under the name 'Chucky-J'). There are certain questions that I ask over and over that he ignores. He will have definitely read that question as it was amongst about half a dozen I sent at around the same time (he answered four of them). I'll ask again but I dont think he'll reply.

[jbrownsjr]

I seem to have a pretty good thing going with him now. He tends to answer about two thirds of the questions I ask (under the name 'Chucky-J'). There are certain questions that I ask over and over that he ignores. He will have definitely read that question as it was amongst about half a dozen I sent at around the same time (he answered four of them). I'll ask again but I dont think he'll reply.

Which kind of questions does he ignore?

[chiliD]

If anything does exist...
...I'm thinking of the 'Free As A Bird'/'Real Love' Beatles recordings for Anthology. For those songs Jeff Lynne had very little to work with. However, if there's any seed of quality then with modern music technology you can make something worthwhile out of very little.


IMMEDIATELY several current...*ahem*..."artists" come to mind. cough...Taylor Swift...cough

[FuzzyPlum]

Which kind of questions does he ignore?

I've asked him lots of questions about Ken.
I've asked him several times about the idea of Tusk as a single album (I understand why he'd ignore that).
Twice asked about these Dennis Wilson recordings.
I asked a question about the Classic Albums: Rumours TV programme that he didnt answer.
I asked a question about the production of Behind The Mask that he didnt answer.
I cant think what else though I know theres a few more.

[jbrownsjr]

I've asked him lots of questions about Ken.
I've asked him several times about the idea of Tusk as a single album (I understand why he'd ignore that).
Twice asked about these Dennis Wilson recordings.
I asked a question about the Classic Albums: Rumours TV programme that he didnt answer.
I asked a question about the production of Behind The Mask that he didnt answer.
I cant think what else though I know theres a few more.

Thank you for sharing!

[chiliD]

I asked a question about the production of Behind The Mask that he didnt answer..

Probably didn't answer that because he had nothing to do with the production of Behind The Mask (would probably help if you read the liner notes first)

[FuzzyPlum]

Probably didn't answer that because he had nothing to do with the production of Behind The Mask (would probably help if you read the liner notes first)

Er no... it was about his thoughts on the production of Behind The Mask- being the first FM album he hadn't be involved with for such a long time.

[FuzzyPlum]

I've asked him lots of questions about Ken.
I've asked him several times about the idea of Tusk as a single album (I understand why he'd ignore that).
Twice asked about these Dennis Wilson recordings.
I asked a question about the Classic Albums: Rumours TV programme that he didnt answer.
I asked a question about the production of Behind The Mask that he didnt answer.
I cant think what else though I know theres a few more.

Oh yeah... I've asked him a few questions about the 'Trouble' video, particularly about Bob Weston. He hasn't replied.