Carousel snippet is up

[Josh2003]

Isn't this the Vanessa Carlton song?

http://t.co/y7RrPIrzyd

[Christopher]

Ugh, It's the Vanessa Carlton song :distress:

[Josh2003]

Yep:


http://youtu.be/H1BQcvKImdk

[loverly13]

So does this mean she let Vanessa record her demo first?

[Josh2003]

I believe Vanessa wrote this one.

Interesting choice, and I really like the way this one sounds. To me it sounds much more polished and "interesting" than the other snippets we've heard.

[sorcerer999]

Ooooh, snap!!! Better late than never, I guess! Now I feel bad for b*tching earlier! :laugh:

Sooooooooooo...is this a Stevie song then? If these are "songs from the vault" then why would she do a Vanessa Carlton cover? Hmmmm

[BlueDenimLamp]

Per Metro Lyrics (http://www.metrolyrics.com/carousel-lyrics-vanessa-carlton.html)

"Carousel"

Songwriters
CARLTON, VANESSA

Published by
Lyrics © Universal Music Publishing Group

Looks like Stevie covered a Vanessa Carlton song...

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I wouldn't be surprised if Stevie is putting the royalties from "Carousel" into a trust fund for her future god child...

[sorcerer999]

Per "Metro Lyrics"

"Carousel"

Songwriters
CARLTON, VANESSA

Published by
Lyrics © Universal Music Publishing Group

Looks like Stevie covered a Vanessa Carlton song...

Lame. I was really hoping (for the first time ever) that EVERY song on this album would have been written solely by Stevie...

BUT...if Stevie's new version is great, then I won't complain. :D

[mitzo]

Sounds melodic and pleasant and a bit less harsh than other snippets (seems like a duet). I can live with this on the album.

[BombaySapphire3]

Very strange..I like the song but when I think of the originals that were jettisoned for it:distress:And how could the copyright be 1981 was Vanessa writing songs before she could even speak.:shrug:

[markolas]

Lame.

Yeah, this annoys me greatly. Especially since there is apparently ALSO AN UNRELEASED STEVIE SONG WITH THE SAME TITLE!!

So, basically she could've recorded two other unreleased songs and she chose to record "Twisted" (a song I never cared for to begin with) for the 3rd time, and a Vanessa Carlton song (why Stevie is so obsessed with her I'll never know).

Yes, I'm being an EVIL, EVIL Ledgie by daring to criticize her.

[markolas]

When is the next song going to be available on iTunes? I want to hear this whole album now, damn it.

[WildHearted]

It's like Stevie knew we were excited to have an album w/ tracks only written by Stevie... :lol:

[sorcerer999]

When is the next song going to be available on iTunes? I want to hear this whole album now, damn it.

"Starshine" on the 16th. :]

[markolas]

It's like Stevie knew we were excited to have an album w/ tracks only written by Stevie... :lol:

She's trolling us with this.

[welcomechris]

Oh no the white rabbit song?

[Rachelclaire]

It is midnight here in the UK and well past my bed time, I am so glad I stayed up. Love this, my favorite snippet so far. xx

[Danielle]

I'd rather have a previously unreleased demo but I'm not complaining, it's a beautiful song and her voice is great.

[welcomechris]

Is Vanessa singing backup on this?

[BlueLight]

I wonder if this song qualifies as one that Stevie "performed live but was never properly recorded"? :laugh: I would've preferred another demo (and an album made up entirely of Stevie-penned songs), but I'm digging the sound of this one.

[loverly13]

I love the song, and Stevie's voice on it. It just confused the hell out of me how it's on a concept album of previously unreleased demos.

[BlueDenimLamp]

I wonder if this song qualifies as one that Stevie "performed live but was never properly recorded"? :laugh: I would've preferred another demo (and an album made up entirely of Stevie-penned songs), but I'm digging the sound of this one.

Stevie performed it live but it was on Vanessa's last album so I don't think that's the one...

[markolas]

I'm unfamiliar with the song (never paid any attention to Vanessa Carlton), but I do like it and think Stevie sounds great on it.

[Jondalar]

I like it a lot but I thought all the songs were going to be hers. Maybe she added additional lyrics like Seven Wonders to get a writing credit.

[sorcerer999]

Or maybe it's a "mash up" of Vanessa's song and the "Carousel" song Stevie wrote it 1981? :laugh: Doubtful.

[michelej1]

Heck, I'd just as soon have Stevie sing A Thousand Miles.

Michele

[jkmaletic]

Is Vanessa singing backup on this?

Sounds like it.

Stevie must've identified with this song and decided to record it. I don't have a problem with that at all. The snippet sounds pretty.
But my favorite snippets so far are "All the Beautiful Worlds" and "If You Were My Love".

Jamie

[BlueLight]

Stevie performed it live but it was on Vanessa's last album so I don't think that's the one...

Oh, I know. I was just amused by interpreting her comment as a dig at Vanesa's recording. :p But still, I'm happy with how this song sounds!

[BombaySapphire3]

Stevie performed it live but it was on Vanessa's last album so I don't think that's the one...

The One was on Vanessa's album prior to White Rabbits on the Run..Stevie sang on that as well.

[PenguinHead]

I love the song, and Stevie's voice on it. It just confused the hell out of me how it's on a concept album of previously unreleased demos.

Yes, a very odd, out of left field song inclusion! How, in Stevie's twisted mind, did this make any sense? (Is this song only on the deluxe version?) I'm sure Stevie will make it her own, much like she has done with other cover songs.

There's a lot of disappoint and indignation from some Ledgies who feel this robs them of other vault songs. I understand that. Yet, this is Stevie's choice, not ours. Try to appreciate this album for what it is, and let go of your personal expectations. You'll be happier with the outcome.

[Machu]

Strange choice since this is supposed to be a "vault" album but I think as long as Vanessa sticks to backup I'll be super happy (Not that I dislike Vanessa, but I mostly don't care for featured vocalists on Stevie songs. It just feels...wrong. :shrug:) Anyways, it's a good song and it sounds promising. :cool: I just hope it doesn't feel too out of place.

[tabruns]

The song sounds nice. I admit to being baffled by including a cover on an album of "Songs from the Vault", but maybe Stevie is interpreting "songs from the vault" as simply songs she's never properly recorded but wants to?

With "Twisted," my guess is like others that she hasn't had a recorded version that she likes yet.

[BombaySapphire3]

Yes, an oddity song inclusion! How, in Stevie's crazy mind, did this make sense? Is this song only on the deluxe version? I'm sure Stevie will make it her own, much like she has done with other cover songs.



Nope it is not a bonus song it is on the actual album.I think what happened is that the song did not do well as a single when Vanessa released it so Stevie felt it needed to be heard so she likely promised Vanessa she would one day record it:shrug:Of course of have no way of knowing for certain but that is my educated guess as to how it ended up on 24KG.

[HoursAndHours]

Interesting! I really hope there's liner notes. ;)

My current speculation (and this is how evil these clips may be) is that maybe Stevie wrote the chorus, and didn't want writing credit for whatever reason - she "gave" that to Vanessa Carlton. I would bet this version has significant differences - is representative of the original version by Stevie. But who knows, I hope there's at least some type of explanation or "origins story" with the hard copy of the record.

[sorcerer999]

Interesting! I really hope there's liner notes. ;)

My current speculation (and this is how evil these clips may be) is that maybe Stevie wrote the chorus, and didn't want writing credit for whatever reason - she "gave" that to Vanessa Carlton. I would bet this version has significant differences - is representative of the original version by Stevie. But who knows, I hope there's at least some type of explanation or "origins story" with the hard copy of the record.

I like the way you think! :xoxo:

[Rod~A~Little]

I've taken a different approach to this snippet. I decided to wait and hear what my Ledgies had to say first...then listening.

Vanessa opened for Stevie on one of her tours and she almost put me to sleep. Why Stevie why? I'm not looking forward to this but I've got to listen.

Here we go...

[Lisa W]

Nope it is not a bonus song it is on the actual album.I think what happened is that the song did not do well as a single when Vanessa released it so Stevie felt it needed to be heard so she likely promised Vanessa she would one day record it:shrug:Of course of have no way of knowing for certain but that is my educated guess as to how it ended up on 24KG.
I think your educated guess makes a lot of sense...

[loverly13]

I think your educated guess makes a lot of sense...

That is sort of what I'm thinking. Why day in a press release that the album consists of songs written between 1969-1987 + two from 1994 and 1995 and then have a "cover" of a fairly recently released Vanessa Carlton track? I'm sure that question will be asked by more than just us ledgies; there's got to be some sort of explanation that we'll get.

Either way, I have adored the song for ages and I'm going to admit I kind of like Vanessa Carlton. Not everything, but after knowing she had Stevie's endorsement, I was motivated to check out more of her stuff. That last album she put out definitely has a lot of Stevie imprints on it. I wouldn't be surprised if she wrote some of Carousel to begin with.

[APerfectLie]

Well Vanessa doesn't say anything about Stevie writing any of it:

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[HoursAndHours]

Well Vanessa doesn't say anything about Stevie writing any of it:

Right. The guessing about any of it being written by Stevie is due to her having a song of the same title (formerly listed on Nicksfix.com), long before the days of Vanessa Carlton being a known musician; and also holding a copyright of a song also titled Carousel effective 1981.

Of course, they may be two totally different things, and it really may just be a cover, but given the theme of this album, I would not be at all surprised if it she did turn out to have a a hand in writing it. We'll know for certain on the 30th, I suppose. :shrug:

[MoonSister75]

hmmm...interesting.. I like it, and I like that it's an unexpected cover. Or maybe there is a story behind it, and Stevie has written some of this version. It's strange how she also has a copyright of a song with the same name. From what Stevie says in the Sunset Sessions video, she has a real connection with this song, so it makes sense that she wants to record it.

I really like what she did with Vanessa Carlton and Circle Dance, so I'm happy to have this is on the album. I'm not particularly a fan of Vanessa's solo work, and I only know a few of her songs, but I like her collaborations with Stevie. The only part I'm not keen on is the white rabbits line - I'm trying to imagine Stevie singing it. Maybe it will grow on me. The song itself is sweet, catchy and is already stuck in my head. Also, I prefer Stevie singing the lead on this :)

[StreetAngel86]

I wouldn't be surprised if Stevie is putting the royalties from "Carousel" into a trust fund for her future god child...


honey, that was the proviso on her covering it :laugh::laugh::laugh:

i liked the snippet.
but now that i know it's a cover ... :rolleyes:

I wonder if this song qualifies as one that Stevie "performed live but was never properly recorded"? :laugh: I would've preferred another demo (and an album made up entirely of Stevie-penned songs), but I'm digging the sound of this one.


well ... she COVERED The Rose
WHY didnt she record that instead lol
although i would have preferred Space effing Needle

STEVIE ... if you're TROLLING us ... please appease :)

[studyinscarlet]

We got this instead of 'Forest'? :shrug:

[Dex]

We got this instead of 'Forest'? :shrug:

You can't do that, though. You could say "we got this instead of Forest!?" about literally any Stevie song ever released, but to do so would make your brain eat itself. Stevie does what she does.

I'm not that disappointed about the inclusion of this song, because I more or less look at this release as I would any other Stevie album, and she's always thrown another songwriter into the mix. But I do think Vanessa's songwriting and Stevie's voice aren't an ideal match. I'm not expecting this to be an album highlight.

[studyinscarlet]

You can't do that, though. You could say "we got this instead of Forest!?" about literally any Stevie song ever released, but to do so would make your brain eat itself. Stevie does what she does.

I'm not that disappointed about the inclusion of this song, because I more or less look at this release as I would any other Stevie album, and she's always thrown another songwriter into the mix. But I do think Vanessa's songwriting and Stevie's voice aren't an ideal match. I'm not expecting this to be an album highlight.

Let's just say it's a personal complaint then. ;)

[wheart]

so when I first read in this thread that Carousel was penned by VC I was a little bummed but now that I've listened to it a few times, I don't really care. I think it sounds great...good vocal, pretty harmonies and a catchy hook. All this in 14 seconds!

I did say I giving up the snippets but I just can't. No Stevie willpower I guess. :laugh:

[ViscountViktor]

OK - it's not an old demo, but we've got plenty of those to celebrate on this album anyway!

And the actual song - I really like it, I think Stevie sounds great, like the harmonies, quite catchy.

The excitement builds!:blob2:

[Keith]

very nice song, but I was hoping Carousel was either "Spinning Wheel" or "At the Fair."

Keith, the dreamer.

[KarmaContestant]

Yes, I'm being an EVIL, EVIL Ledgie by daring to criticize her.

:laugh: The Ledge - where we all wish Stevie had died after 1984. :sorry: :p :] (I actually read that on a Facebook group)


On topic, the song sounds good, but I'm not a fan of Vanessa, and thus, her work is largely unfamiliar to me.

[DauphineMarie]

For some reason I have a feeling this is really Stevie's song.. to me "It's hard to know what's good for you, I know she let you down, but the fever breaks when it's too much to take, so you can put your weapons down" sounds like a Stevie line.. Maybe it's just me, but if you look at the video, there is some definite Stevie influence... Like that whole white winged dove thing with the dress, and you can't forget that shawl action :laugh: My guess is Stevie wrote it, gave it to Vanessa, Vanessa changed most of the words, and kept the Stevie influence. :shrug:

[Dex]

For some reason I have a feeling this is really Stevie's song.. to me "It's hard to know what's good for you, I know she let you down, but the fever breaks when it's too much to take, so you can put your weapons down" sounds like a Stevie line.. Maybe it's just me, but if you look at the video, there is some definite Stevie influence... Like that whole white winged dove thing with the dress, and you can't forget that shawl action :laugh: My guess is Stevie wrote it, gave it to Vanessa, Vanessa changed most of the words, and kept the Stevie influence. :shrug:

Well, the song was released on a Vanessa album from a few years ago. Here's the album booklet which includes the writing credits. It says "All songs written by Vanessa Carlton except:" and then lists a few co-writes.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-UJbansYWmkg/Uad_aYTptmI/AAAAAAAAnIQ/A4qSZ9oSwQQ/s1600/RabbitsontheRun7.jpg

No mention of Stevie at all. It seems illegal and also just plain unlikely that Stevie would've written or co-written a song and gone uncredited.

[APerfectLie]

Right. The guessing about any of it being written by Stevie is due to her having a song of the same title (formerly listed on Nicksfix.com), long before the days of Vanessa Carlton being a known musician; and also holding a copyright of a song also titled Carousel effective 1981.

Of course, they may be two totally different things, and it really may just be a cover, but given the theme of this album, I would not be at all surprised if it she did turn out to have a a hand in writing it. We'll know for certain on the 30th, I suppose. :shrug:

Does anyone have a source for this? I have found no copyrights for this. All I know is that it used to be some mystery demo that started showing up on lists "years ago" but there seem to be no legit sources, nor anyone saying they actually heard the demo. I would love to believe that Stevie gave some or part of her demo to Vanessa, but I don't see Vanessa leaving the Stevie part out of the story. Why wouldn't Stevie want to be credited? Why wouldn't Vanessa say, "and I just couldn't write a song and Stevie Nicks gave me this demo and I wrote another song but kept the chorus"? I definitely want to believe some of this actually came from Stevie's vault, but so far I see nothing that indicates that.

[DauphineMarie]

Well, the song was released on a Vanessa album from a few years ago. Here's the album booklet which includes the writing credits. It says "All songs written by Vanessa Carlton except:" and then lists a few co-writes.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-UJbansYWmkg/Uad_aYTptmI/AAAAAAAAnIQ/A4qSZ9oSwQQ/s1600/RabbitsontheRun7.jpg

No mention of Stevie at all. It seems illegal and also just plain unlikely that Stevie would've written or co-written a song and gone uncredited.

Okay so those are the facts, but how can Stevie's version have a copyright date of 1981? This one is just baffling. And I thought there was a list going around that had Carousel listed as a demo with a date from 1981, but that no one had heard it.

[BlueDenimLamp]

Okay so those are the facts, but how can Stevie's version have a copyright date of 1981? This one is just baffling.

Why is it baffling???

What's baffling to me is that fans are having a hard time grasping that Stevie wrote a song in 1981 titled "Carousel" and then in 2014 covered a different song with the same title( "carousel" ) written by another artist...The fact the 2 songs share the same title is probably just a coincidence...How many songs with the title "Lady" are there???

[michelej1]

but the fever breaks when it's too much to take, so you can put your weapons down"

To me, that part doesn't sound like Stevie at all.

Maybe the first part of the sentence does a bit.

Michele

[ricohv]

To me, that part doesn't sound like Stevie at all.

Maybe the first part of the sentence does a bit.

Michele

I agree! Ricoh

[BombaySapphire3]

I don't think Stevie had a hand in writing the song.I am sticking with my guess that she loved the song and Vanessa's album but when neither did well in sales or airplay she told Vanessa something along the lines of 'this needs to be heard one day I will record it and put it on my album"

[DauphineMarie]

To me, that part doesn't sound like Stevie at all.

Maybe the first part of the sentence does a bit.

Michele

I agree with that, but to me the phrasing at least does.

[DauphineMarie]

Why is it baffling???

What's baffling to me is that fans are having a hard time grasping that Stevie wrote a song in 1981 titled "Carousel" and then in 2014 covered a different song with the same title( "carousel" ) written by another artist...The fact the 2 songs share the same title is probably just a coincidence...How many songs with the title "Lady" are there???

I understand that, but because these are "songs from the vault, all these songs were written from 1968 til blah blah blah" it makes no mention of a song written in 2011 by a different recording artist. That's all I'm saying though.

[Lisa W]

I don't think Stevie had a hand in writing the song.I am sticking with my guess that she loved the song and Vanessa's album but when neither did well in sales or airplay she told Vanessa something along the lines of 'this needs to be heard one day I will record it and put it on my album"
I absolutely agree. I also recall Stevie describing how she heard Vanessa's Carousel song for the first time during a Nicks family Christmas gathering, so it is probably very special to her for that reason as well.

[BlueDenimLamp]

I absolutely agree. I also recall Stevie describing how she heard Vanessa's Carousel song for the first time during a Nicks family Christmas gathering, so it is probably very special to her for that reason as well.

Doesn't the story go that while staying with the Nicks' for the holidays she didn't know any Christmas songs so she played them "Carousel"...

[Lisa W]

Doesn't the story go that while staying with the Nicks' for the holidays she didn't know any Christmas songs so she played them "Carousel"...
Yes, that is what I heard as well. Stevie asked Vanessa to play a Christmas carol and Vanessa replied that she did not know any because she was Jewish. Stevie then asked her to play a Jewish Christmas carol.....
The Carousel song is what Vanessa offered up instead.

[Lisa W]

Doesn't the story go that while staying with the Nicks' for the holidays she didn't know any Christmas songs so she played them "Carousel"...
Here is a link to the YouTube video that has the Nicks' Christmas story about the Carousel song. I think it helps to show how much the song means to Stevie. I'm new at this posting stuff so hopefully the link comes through clearly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tXWvRpbjxE

[hightower_1001]

I wonder if Vanessa will get any royalties from having her song covered on Stevie's album?

[BlueDenimLamp]

I wonder if Vanessa will get any royalties from having her song covered on Stevie's album?

Yes.......

[olive]

Stevie then asked her to play a Jewish Christmas carol.....
.

I hope that is not true That's just ignorant .

[BombaySapphire3]

I hope that is not true That's just ignorant .

Well this is Stevie Nicks we're discussing here..I'm sure she didn't mean anything by it.

[HoursAndHours]

Why is it baffling???

What's baffling to me is that fans are having a hard time grasping that Stevie wrote a song in 1981 titled "Carousel" and then in 2014 covered a different song with the same title( "carousel" ) written by another artist...The fact the 2 songs share the same title is probably just a coincidence...How many songs with the title "Lady" are there???

It's a bit baffling to me as to why it would be included on an album of "vault" songs. But maybe it's really just an important song to her. Maybe she wanted to record it for IYD and didn't, and so it feels like a "vault" song to her. :shrug:

I like the song, so I'm happy about it, it just seems extremely out of place on this record.

[olive]

Well this is Stevie Nicks we're discussing here..I'm sure she didn't mean anything by it.
she gets a free pass ?

[DauphineMarie]

It's a bit baffling to me as to why it would be included on an album of "vault" songs. But maybe it's really just an important song to her. Maybe she wanted to record it for IYD and didn't, and so it feels like a "vault" song to her. :shrug:

I like the song, so I'm happy about it, it just seems extremely out of place on this record.

Yes thank you, this was my intention. I can't wait to see what the liner notes for this one are.. :nod:

[BombaySapphire3]

she get a free pass ?

I'm just saying it is probably just something dippy that she said but without malice aforethought.

[Jondalar]

Vanessa seems like a sweet young girl. Best of luck to her.

[thedancingcow]

I haven't heard Vanessa's version, but I like what I'm hearing with the snippet. But yeah, count me in as those who think it's a little odd to have a cover song on an album that's supposed to be all about vault songs. And it's not like this one was set to be a bonus track, as it's on the regular album.

But hey, as long as it sounds good, that's all I really care about.

[Nickingham]

I don't like Vanessa's voice. Never got into her music. But the song sounds okay with Stevie singing it.

If this was a regular album, I wouldn't mind if Carousel was on it. Stevie has included other peoples song's on all her previous albums.
But if an album is titled '24KG Songs From The Vault', and it's being promoted as demo's that weren't officially recorded before, one would think that it is mainly comprised of said demo's, no? No. And this is why it strikes me as being odd.

And I'm still not understanding why Twisted is on there. Third time's a charm?
Stevie could have recorded two other demo's in their place.
Maybe we'll get lucky and she'll make 24KG: part 2. Some of those songs are too good to be left in the vault!

[michelej1]

I don't think Stevie had a hand in writing the song.I am sticking with my guess that she loved the song and Vanessa's album but when neither did well in sales or airplay she told Vanessa something along the lines of 'this needs to be heard one day I will record it and put it on my album"

"'This needs to be heard. One day I will record it and put it on my album, because no one ever listens to any of your releases."

Michele

[PenguinHead]

she gets a free pass ?

It was a funny and innocent joke; no free pass needed. If someone doesn't have the ability to discern humor from insensitivity and insult, I feel very sorry for them.

[PenguinHead]

You can't do that, though. You could say "we got this instead of Forest!?" about literally any Stevie song ever released, but to do so would make your brain eat itself. Stevie does what she does.

I'm not that disappointed about the inclusion of this song, because I more or less look at this release as I would any other Stevie album, and she's always thrown another songwriter into the mix. But I do think Vanessa's songwriting and Stevie's voice aren't an ideal match. I'm not expecting this to be an album highlight.

Thank you! To asume that Stevie chose this song over another vault song doesn't make sense to me. Likely there was no Sophie's Choice moment, picking one over another. She recorded all the vault songs she wanted to record (or re-record, which was the case for Twisted) and she just decided to add this song to the project. I'm not too crazy about the song's inclusion, as it does break ranks with the much vaunted vault concept. But that's just how Stevie rolls, sometimes throwing curve balls.

[studyinscarlet]

Doesn't the story go that while staying with the Nicks' for the holidays she didn't know any Christmas songs so she played them "Carousel"...

She couldn't sing "Jingle Bells'? :D

[tabruns]

Maybe Stevie included "Carousel" as a wedding gift to Carlton? Carlton will get royalties from it.

[hightower_1001]

Maybe Stevie included "Carousel" as a wedding gift to Carlton? Carlton will get royalties from it.

That's what I think. She did it for Vanessa as a favor or a gift and Vanessa will get royalties from the sales. Yeah, it doesn't make sense that she would include it on an album of her own unreleased songs but maybe Stevie didn't care. :shrug:

[olive]

That's what I think. She did it for Vanessa as a favor or a gift and Vanessa will get royalties from the sales. Yeah, it doesn't make sense that she would include it on an album of her own unreleased songs but maybe Stevie didn't care. :shrug:

maybe she just likes it

[michelej1]

Maybe Stevie included "Carousel" as a wedding gift to Carlton? Carlton will get royalties from it.

Should have given her a waffle iron.

Michele

[StreetAngel86]

Should have given her a waffle iron.

Michele

a foreman grill :laugh:

[olive]

It was a funny and innocent joke; no free pass needed. If someone doesn't have the ability to discern humor from insensitivity and insult, I feel very sorry for them.

as a Jew who has had to endure every form of ignorance and racism over my religion I'm a bit touchy .

[BlueDenimLamp]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/StevieNicks">@StevieNicks</a> has an album comin! 24 Karat Gold. Lady is an amazing song. Here's a clip Ms. Nicks singing Carousel. <a href="http://t.co/vQoxLLUByn">http://t.co/vQoxLLUByn</a></p>&mdash; Vanessa Carlton (@VanessaCarlton) <a href="https://twitter.com/VanessaCarlton/status/508806651856822272">September 8, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I was wondering if Vanessa would tweet about Stevie's version of "Carousel"

[PenguinHead]

She couldn't sing "Jingle Bells'? :D

:laugh: Even better : Jingle Bell Rock

[PenguinHead]

as a Jew who has had to endure every form of ignorance and racism over my religion I'm a bit touchy .

I understand. Much respect to you!

[PenguinHead]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/StevieNicks">@StevieNicks</a> has an album comin! 24 Karat Gold. Lady is an amazing song. Here's a clip Ms. Nicks singing Carousel. <a href="http://t.co/vQoxLLUByn">http://t.co/vQoxLLUByn</a></p>&mdash; Vanessa Carlton (@VanessaCarlton) <a href="https://twitter.com/VanessaCarlton/status/508806651856822272">September 8, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I was wondering if Vanessa would tweet about Stevie's version of "Carousel"

The Examiner notes that this is Stevie's 1oth solo album, the first solo album after the "highly successful" In Your Dreams.

It's 12 albums if you include her 3 compilations and sessions album. Otherwise it's 8 albums. They were wrong twice!:laugh:

[Johnny Stew]

Prior to the release of 'In Your Dreams,' there was talk of 15 tracks having been recorded. I can't remember where that number came from, but I remember it being discussed several times here. When the track-listing for the regular and deluxe editions were announced, including 13 & 14 tracks respectively, some Ledgies pondered what became of the 15th track.

Is it at all possible that Stevie originally recorded "Carousel" in 2010, around the same time Vanessa recorded it for 'Rabbits On The Run,' and then opted to not release it? (Not entirely implausible, mind you, when you consider the fact that even after Stevie recorded and released "It's Only Love" on 'TISL,' Sheryl Crow also recorded it for her own album and released it less than a year later.)

If that's the case, it would be a "vault" song in a sense -- just not one written by Stevie herself.

[DauphineMarie]

Prior to the release of 'In Your Dreams,' there was talk of 15 tracks having been recorded. I can't remember where that number came from, but I remember it being discussed several times here. When the track-listing for the regular and deluxe editions were announced, including 13 & 14 tracks respectively, some Ledgies pondered what became of the 15th track.

Is it at all possible that Stevie originally recorded "Carousel" in 2010, around the same time Vanessa recorded it for 'Rabbits On The Run,' and then opted to not release it? (Not entirely implausible, mind you, when you consider the fact that even after Stevie recorded and released "It's Only Love" on 'TISL,' Sheryl Crow also recorded it for her own album and released it less than a year later.)

If that's the case, it would be a "vault" song in a sense -- just not one written by Stevie herself.

I thought about this possibility too. They could have even worked on it together, which is why Vanessa didn't give Stevie an album credit, much like Stevie didn't give Prince a writing credit for Stand Back. I just seriously doubt Stevie would do a cover, and not mention it when talking about the album. I go back to her statement, "These songs were written from 1969 through 1987 and 1995 and 1996" or something along those lines, and no mention of a cover. I understand that Stevie does what she wants to, no matter how trite it may seem to all of us, but I just don't see the role that this song plays in the "vault" theme. No matter what the reason though, I'm excited to see what Stevie will do with this song.

[gssmith]

I hope that is not true That's just ignorant .

People get so butt hurt. I thought it was funny

[gssmith]

It was a funny and innocent joke; no free pass needed. If someone doesn't have the ability to discern humor from insensitivity and insult, I feel very sorry for them.

Well said! Relax Oliver take a deep breath

[olive]

People get so butt hurt. I thought it was funny

AS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED as a Jew who has had to endure every form of ignorance and racism over my religion I'm a bit touchy .

[olive]

Well said! Relax Oliver take a deep breath

It's Olive and again .... as a Jew who has had to endure every form of ignorance and racism over my religion I'm a bit touchy .

[PenguinHead]

Well, the song was released on a Vanessa album from a few years ago. Here's the album booklet which includes the writing credits. It says "All songs written by Vanessa Carlton except:" and then lists a few co-writes.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-UJbansYWmkg/Uad_aYTptmI/AAAAAAAAnIQ/A4qSZ9oSwQQ/s1600/RabbitsontheRun7.jpg

No mention of Stevie at all. It seems illegal and also just plain unlikely that Stevie would've written or co-written a song and gone uncredited.

I never suspected Stevie had anything to do with song. Lots of interesting theories though! I will forever consider it as the bastard child; the interloper among her vault songs.

[wheart]

"'This needs to be heard. One day I will record it and put it on my album, because no one ever listens to any of your releases."

Michele

did Stevie really say that? Again, she probably didn't mean anything hurtful but that's really a terrible thing to say to a songwriter.

[michelej1]

did Stevie really say that? Again, she probably didn't mean anything hurtful but that's really a terrible thing to say to a songwriter.

No, she didn't say that. I made it up in response to something another poster wrote.

Michele

[olive]

did Stevie really say that? Again, she probably didn't mean anything hurtful but that's really a terrible thing to say to a songwriter.

I'm sure it was a joke :p

[tabruns]

The Examiner notes that this is Stevie's 1oth solo album, the first solo album after the "highly successful" In Your Dreams.

It's 12 albums if you include her 3 compilations and sessions album. Otherwise it's 8 albums. They were wrong twice!:laugh:

Well they probably meant highly successful as in it was a top 10 hit. It didn't go Gold but many albums these days don't.

[PenguinHead]

Well they probably meant highly successful as in it was a top 10 hit. It didn't go Gold but many albums these days don't.

Groovy! I can accept that reasoning!:lol:

[pwyll]

The One was on Vanessa's album prior to White Rabbits on the Run..Stevie sang on that as well.

Just listened to Vanessa's studio cut of this song and Stevie is DEFINITELY on that recording....singing the same low chorus vocal.

[welcomechris]

http://www.examiner.com/article/stevie-nicks-unveils-preview-of-new-song-carousel

Stevie Nicks unveils preview of new song 'Carousel'


Stevie Nicks continues to build anticipation for her upcoming studio album 24 Karat Gold: Songs from the Vault. The Fleetwood Mac star's latest teaser clip offering is a reworking of a song written by Vanessa Carlton called "Carousel."

Stevie Nicks unveils preview of new song 'Carousel' from upcoming album '24 Karat Gold'
Wikimedia Commons/Reprise
The two-time Grammy winner posted the video on Sept. 5 at her official Facebook page. The 15 second clip reveals the "Edge of 17" hitmaker performing the chorus of the mid-tempo ballad with Nick's singing, "And all you'll hear is the music/And beauty stands before you/And love comes back around again/It's a carousel, my friend."

Nicks and Carlton are friends and the pair have previously performed the song together live. The track is the only non-Nicks composition to be previewed from the album thus far.

With the exception of "Carousel," the album is a collection of self-penned songs, which the pop diva recorded over the years, but never released on an album. Co-produced by Nicks along with ex-Eurythmics co-frontman Dave Stewart and longtime Nick's bandmember and session guitarist Waddy Wachtel, the tracks were newly recorded in Nashville and mixed in Los Angeles.

Nicks previously previewed eight other tracks from the album earlier this month, including "The Dealer," "If You were My Love," "Mabel Normand," "Belle Fleur," "All the Beautiful Worlds," "Lady," "I Don't Care" and "Hard Advice." "24 Karat Gold" is available for pre-order and will be released Oct. 7 on the Reprise label. Click here for more information.

The diminutive songstress will hit the road this fall with the reunited Fleetwood Mac classic line-up, which will include the newly rejoined Christine McVie. The tour kicks off the tour in on Sept. 20 in Minneapolis, Minneapolis, at Target Centre and wrap up in on Dec. 14 in Dallas, Texas, at American Airlines Centre. For more information, click here.

Did you know? 24 Karat Gold: Songs from the Vault is Stevie Nicks 10th solo album and a follow up to her highly successful 2011 studio album In Your Dreams.

[tabruns]

"pop diva"? I'd never refer to Nicks as a "pop diva", the writer must be high. Nicks is a rock artist, one of the best of the modern rockers from the 70s/80s. And "10th solo album"?

1. Bella Donna
2. Wild Heart
3. Rock a Little
4. The Other Side of the Mirror
5. Timespace
6. Street Angel
7. Enchanted
8. Trouble in Shangri-La
9. Crystal Visions
10. The Soundstage Sessions
11. In Your Dreams
12. 24 Karat Gold

It's either Nicks' 12th album if you count them all, or her 11th if you eliminate the live album, or her 8th if you count only studio albums. I guess the writer got to 10 by counting the studio albums plus the two hits collections.....but that seems odd. How are 'Enchanted' and 'The Soundstage Sessions' "less official"? Oh well - I'd probably count it as her 8th album, thinking of the hits collections, the box set retrospective, and the live album as all "collections" albums of one kind or another.

[BlueDenimLamp]

Just listened to Vanessa's studio cut of this song and Stevie is DEFINITELY on that recording....singing the same low chorus vocal.

http://i1361.photobucket.com/albums/r663/Nicksiannation/P9290015_zps4190831e.jpg

Stevie is credited in the liner notes of "Heroes And Thieves" several times...Stevie is also responsible for sequencing "Heroes And Thieves" "Rabbits On The Run" and Vanessa's upcoming "Lieberman" LP...Vanessa refers to her as "The Mistress Of Song Order"

So now we know that Stevie had a wonderful reason for including "Carousel" on a record of old demos...

[BlueDenimLamp]

http://i1361.photobucket.com/albums/r663/Nicksiannation/fhjyfv_zpsd40d8e62.png

Ran across this. Stevie look like she's signing Vanessa's marriage certificate.