The songs that didn't get picked for 24 Karat Gold

[KarmaContestant]

Here's a list I compiled of circulating demos, outtakes and unreleased songs performed live that didn't get picked for 24 Karat Gold. Some of these could be songs on 24 Karat Gold, but with new titles.

Please let me know if I missed any. I just went by what I've heard/have/know to be circulating.

All The King’s Horses http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSr96G09Lls
All These Years http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1xDnY4G0ys
Amber http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRS02FPTYEc
Anybody Out There http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oda_gIfg2T0
Are You Mine (cover) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrSYMxcn900
At The Fair http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8jSxkNrlBY
Baby Doll http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09CjhkCHLUY
Beautiful Ghost (not on YouTube)
Castaway http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBwQnCTzbyo
Cecelia http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMM-_X4pVT0
Chanel Chanel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ilu_Q0uFfcE
China Doll http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPw-0jnTM6I
Christian (Spinning Wheels) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCtK8TyQZeI
City of Hope / Charmed Ones http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wbn6aiTUqZ8
Dial The Number http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfPZ2Ey8Uwg
Don’t Treat Me Like A Stranger http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3f9-6IxVs2U
Farewell, Failure http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmlQ-iEZZSk
Forest of the Black Roses http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnAwva6b00c
Forsaken Love http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIjtcYpTd9k
Goldfish & Ladybug http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHv49ezuD3E
Gypsy Beggar http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mN2TRQvpqck
Have No Heart http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsuaTEE7Fos
I Need You http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gk1MeKwDA3M
Impossible Task http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFdj5XBU_xc
It’s Not A Dream http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoCWOUneh9k
Jimmy Come Back http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMvF_hWxlxE
Joan of Arc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaeSSbXSD8M
Julia http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vp3_bP8sc3U
Knocking On Doors (Not on YouTube)
Lily Girl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGZwgHUk_n4
Love And War http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LmAn-ydcAA
Love Don’t Fail Me Now (Not on YouTube)
Love You Enough / My Love Is Never Lost http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7IQUnYuPCI
Maker Of Birds / 3 Birds of Rhiannon http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dUMLNSaPk8
Melacine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5hoU5sgYJE
Night Gallery http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6r7u6F4HhwQ
Old Fashioned (Not on YouTube)
One More Tomorrow http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpqNkYCZdOA
Ooh, Ooh, Baby (Not on YouTube)
Prettiest Girl In The World http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpnzJmHBR-M
Priest of Nothing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJ-ZSWaX1T4
Rich Old Lady http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHTJhG2SbhQ
Rock-A-Bye Baby http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Us2XPdTVLS4
Sanctuary http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ktqe8ziQOQg
See The World Go By http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcVjZ_XWFrg
Something Exquisite http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gpLU9unx0Q
Space Needle http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIL1ougLsqc
Stay Away (Not on YouTube)
Takes A Long Time (Not on YouTube)
Telephone / You Won't Forget Me http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P3emYkPdhk
Tied Up In Promises (cover) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Nkgb4OvVoI
The Tragedy Of One's Own Soul (Not on YouTube)
What Has R&R Ever Done For You? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2Xz9zoNFTo
When Will We Love Again? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFfNIA_v0BY
You Like Me http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eObmreDWPC8

[HoursAndHours]

Here's a list I compiled of circulating demos, outtakes and unreleased songs performed live that didn't get picked for 24 Karat Gold. Some of these could be songs on 24 Karat Gold, but with new titles.

Please let me know if I missed any. I just went by what I've heard/have/know to be circulating.

Heartbreaker (Circles In Time)

Isn't this a Lindsey song?

[PenguinHead]

Here's a list I compiled of circulating demos, outtakes and unreleased songs performed live that didn't get picked for 24 Karat Gold. Some of these could be songs on 24 Karat Gold, but with new titles.

Please let me know if I missed any. I just went by what I've heard/have/know to be circulating. (updating with YouTube links in progress)

All The King’s Horses http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSr96G09Lls
All These Years http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1xDnY4G0ys
Amber http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRS02FPTYEc
Anybody Out There http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oda_gIfg2T0
Are You Mine (cover) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrSYMxcn900
At The Fair http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8jSxkNrlBY
Baby Doll http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09CjhkCHLUY
Beautiful Ghost (not on YouTube)
Castaway http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBwQnCTzbyo
Cecelia http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMM-_X4pVT0
Chanel Chanel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ilu_Q0uFfcE
China Doll http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPw-0jnTM6I
Christian (Spinning Wheels) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCtK8TyQZeI
City of Hope / Charmed Ones http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wbn6aiTUqZ8
Dial The Number http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfPZ2Ey8Uwg
Don’t Treat Me Like A Stranger http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3f9-6IxVs2U
Farewell, Failure http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmlQ-iEZZSk
Forest of the Black Roses http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnAwva6b00c
Forsaken Love http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIjtcYpTd9k
Goldfish & Ladybug http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHv49ezuD3E
Gypsy Beggar http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mN2TRQvpqck
Have No Heart
Heartbreaker (Circles In Time)
I Need You
Impossible Task
It’s Not A Dream
Jimmy Come Back
Joan of Arc
Julia
Knocking On Doors
Lily Girl
Love And War
Love Don’t Fail Me Now
Love You Enough / My Love Is Never Lost
Maker Of Birds / 3 Birds of Rhiannon
Melacine
Night Gallery
Old Fashioned
One More Tomorrow
Ooh, Ooh, Baby
Prettiest Girl In The World
Priest of Nothing
Rich Old Lady
Rock-A-Bye Baby
Sanctuary
See The World Go By
Something Exquisite
Space Needle
Stay Away
Takes A Long Time
Tied Up In Promises (cover)
The Tragedy Of One's Own Soul
What Has R&R Ever Done For You?
When Will We Love Again?
You Like Me
You Won’t Forget Me

She can record Songs from the Vault volume two, three, and four.

[BlueLight]

I haven't yet been able to process all of this, but wow, thank you for posting all of this!

[KarmaContestant]

Isn't this a Lindsey song?

Maybe, I don't know. It's not one I know much about, but she duets it with him. If it's a Lindsey song, let me know and I'll remove it. :)

[Artemis]

Looking at that list, there's only 5 songs I would have wanted to see:

Joan of Arc,
At The Fair,
Julia,
Rock A Bye Baby,
Space Needle

The rest... eh. I can honestly say I've never listened to the Rhiannon songs, so I don't really "get" why they're such a big deal. I'd be bothered about You Won't Forget Me... but I think that song evolved into All The Beautiful Worlds anyway.

[gldstwmn]

She can record Songs from the Vault volume two, three, and four.

I guess we'll get the Rhiannon project at some point? :confused: At least I think she thinks we will? :shrug:

[StreetAngel86]

I guess we'll get the Rhiannon project at some point? :confused: At least I think she thinks we will? :shrug:


but remember, that will be after she does her ode to Game of Thrones: music and lyrics inspired by the hit tv series :laugh:



Here's a list I compiled of circulating demos, outtakes and unreleased songs performed live that didn't get picked for 24 Karat Gold. Some of these could be songs on 24 Karat Gold, but with new titles.


all these need to be on the Vault deux:

All The King’s Horses
Baby Doll
Beautiful Ghost
Cecelia
Chanel Chanel
Dial The Number
Forest of the Black Roses
Forsaken Love
Have No Heart
Joan of Arc
Maker Of Birds / 3 Birds of Rhiannon
Prettiest Girl In The World
Sanctuary
Something Exquisite
Space Needle

[He's So Unusual]

I've never heard Prettiest Girl in the World before, it's cool. When was it recorded? China Doll is beautiful.

[KarmaContestant]

all these need to be on the Vault deux:

All The King’s Horses
Baby Doll
Beautiful Ghost
Cecelia
Chanel Chanel
Dial The Number
Forest of the Black Roses
Forsaken Love
Have No Heart
Joan of Arc
Maker Of Birds / 3 Birds of Rhiannon
Prettiest Girl In The World
Sanctuary
Something Exquisite
Space Needle

Great picks! Here's mine:

At The Fair
Beautiful Ghost
Chanel Chanel
Gypsy Beggar
Have No Heart
Joan of Arc
Love Don't Fail Me Now
Night Gallery
Ooh, Ooh Baby
Prettiest Girl In The World
Rich Old Lady
Something Exquisite
Space Needle


These aren't necessarily what I consider the best songs from the list, but rather the ones I'd like to hear finished, right now (probably different next week :laugh: )

[KarmaContestant]

I've never heard Prettiest Girl in the World before, it's cool. When was it recorded?

I'm not certain, but I think it's a leftover from TOSOTM era.

[He's So Unusual]

I'm not certain, but I think it's a leftover from TOSOTM era.

Cool, thanks! I'm slowly working my way through the demos.

[markolas]

I saw another site that listed "Lady" as another title for "Knocking on Doors," so I'm leaning toward the idea that they are the same song.

[sorcerer999]

I saw another site that listed "Lady" as another title for "Knocking on Doors," so I'm leaning toward the idea that they are the same song.

I think you're right! Actually, I HOPE AND PRAY that it is because "Knocking On Doors", albeit very simple, is one of my favorites and has sooooo much potential.

My other favorites that didn't make the cut this time around...
Night Gallery :distress:
Love You Enough
Christian (Spinning Wheels)
Sanctuary
Joan Of Arc
Castaway

[Fannymac]

I was surprised at "At The Fair" not making it! But.....being reminded of some of these tracks, she may be keeping some of them for the new Fleetwood Mac album!

[sodascouts]

"Heartbreaker" aka "Circles in Time" is an unreleased Lindsey song they they performed live in the Buckingham Nicks days - presumably, it would have been on their second album.

http://www.buckinghamnicks.net/bn/unreleased/circlesintime.html


My faves that didn't make it, and that I would like to see on a "Songs from the Vault: Part II" or a Mac release:

City of Hope
At The Fair
China Doll
Old-Fashioned (The Dance)
Sanctuary
Something Exquisite
Love and War (Mix Down)
Love Don't Fail Me Now
Tied Up in Promises
The Tragedy of One's Own Soul
Prettiest Girl in the World
Space Needle

And also...
Castaway
Cecelia
Christian (Spinning Wheels)
All These Years
Julia

So.. quite a few, actually, but three of my faves made it onto the list (She Loves Him Still, Starshine, and Watch Chain) - I'm grateful for that.

[KarmaContestant]

"Heartbreaker" aka "Circles in Time" is an unreleased Lindsey song they they performed live in the Buckingham Nicks days - presumably, it would have been on their second album.

http://www.buckinghamnicks.net/bn/unreleased/circlesintime.html



Thanks for confirming that!

[jcalzaretta]

I guess she has to make another vault record. I wanted

Julia
Forest of the Black Roses
Sanctuary

at a minimum!

[olive]

I guess she has to make another vault record. I wanted

Julia
Forest of the Black Roses
Sanctuary

at a minimum!

an EP 14 karats from the safe

[KarmaContestant]

an EP 14 karats from the safe

:laugh: That was clever.

[StevieNicksfann]

My wishlist now:

1) Jimmy Come On Back
2) Rock A Bye Baby
3) Love And War/Mixdown
4) Chanel Chanel
5) It's Not A Dream
6) Ooh Baby
7) Charmed Ones/City Of Hope
8) Tied Up (In Promises)
9) Christian/Spinning Wheels/Mirror Ball
10) This Is My Cross To Bear
11) One More Tomorrow
12) Rich Old Lady/Mystical Love
13) What Has Rock And Roll Ever Done For You?
14) Gold And Braid
15) China Doll
16) Forsaken Love/Mistaken Love
17) I Call You Missing
18) Castaway
19) All The King's Horses
20) Stay Away

[AliceLover]

It's a sin that Julia didn't make it...

[StreetAngel86]

I think you're right! Actually, I HOPE AND PRAY that it is because "Knocking On Doors", albeit very simple, is one of my favorites and has sooooo much potential.

My other favorites that didn't make the cut this time around...
Night Gallery :distress:
Love You Enough
Christian (Spinning Wheels)
Sanctuary
Joan Of Arc
Castaway

i'm PRAYING it's not on 24KG because it's on the new FM record :blob2::blob2::blob2:

:laugh: That was clever.


it was :lol:
or ... she can do an ode to the Ledge and call the new record Golden Nuggets :laugh:

[PenguinHead]

but remember, that will be after she does her ode to Game of Thrones: music and lyrics inspired by the hit tv series :laugh:






all these need to be on the Vault deux:

All The King’s Horses
Baby Doll
Beautiful Ghost
Cecelia
Chanel Chanel
Dial The Number
Forest of the Black Roses
Forsaken Love
Have No Heart
Joan of Arc
Maker Of Birds / 3 Birds of Rhiannon
Prettiest Girl In The World
Sanctuary
Something Exquisite
Space Needle

I like this list.:D Maybe some may appear on Fleetwood Mac's new album.

[Macfanforever]

She can record Songs from the Vault volume two, three, and four.

I agree .I was thinking of that tonight as I was doing my walk.

[HoursAndHours]

I agree .I was thinking of that tonight as I was doing my walk.

I said this in another thread:

"It's Not A Dream: Songs From The Vault Vol. 2" :D

[Macfanforever]

I said this in another thread:

"It's Not A Dream: Songs From The Vault Vol. 2" :D

Hahahahaha.She could of make a box set to clean house.

[studyinscarlet]

Too bad 'Forest' didn't make it! But I guess she could always do a part 2.

[Stevie's~Prince]

Well for mine

Christian/Spinning Wheel (crystal perfection!)
Cecelia
Forest
Space Needle

and then depending on how we are classifying this: Gold and Braid redo and Sweet Girl:angel:

[TxEpiscopalian]

I am curious and haven't stumbled across it yet, when roughly was China Doll written

[PenguinHead]

but remember, that will be after she does her ode to Game of Thrones: music and lyrics inspired by the hit tv series :laugh:






all these need to be on the Vault deux:

All The King’s Horses
Baby Doll
Beautiful Ghost
Cecelia
Chanel Chanel
Dial The Number
Forest of the Black Roses
Forsaken Love
Have No Heart
Joan of Arc
Maker Of Birds / 3 Birds of Rhiannon
Prettiest Girl In The World
Sanctuary
Something Exquisite
Space Needle

This is a excellent selection, but with the addition of Julia.

[PenguinHead]

After reacquainting myself with all the other demos, here is my selection, in no particular order.

All the King's Horses
At the Fair
Are You Mine
Baby Doll
Cecelia
Channel Channel
Dial the Number
Forest of the Black Roses
Have No Heart
Julia
Love and War
Love Don't Fail Me Now
Night Gallery
Sanctuary
Something Exquisite
Space Needle
You Like Me

Some of these songs would need more treatment/rearrangement than others.

[sorcerer999]

Now that most of my favorite demos have officially been recorded within the past 15 years, my wish list has really dwindled down to just a handful of songs. So if there are to be anymore "vault songs" revisited and recorded in the future, whether for "Fleetwood Mac" or more solo work, the few remaining "favorites" from my wish list are...

1. "Night Gallery"
2. "Spinning Wheels"
3. "Forsaken Love"
4. "China Doll"
5. "Love You Enough"
6. "Rock A Bye Baby"
7. "Joan Of Arc"

And that's about it. But I must also add that I'd rather have most of her future musical endeavors to be newly written material, to reflect where she is in her life now, settling into the strange and eccentric life of a "musical icon", the new experiences, the regrets, her hopes and goals for the future, possibly new loves (hey, it could happen) and new projects not associated with music.

[BlueLight]

So I've been wondering, if Stevie were to record her Rhiannon album from these remaining songs, what would we get?

Forest of the Black Roses
Forsaken Love
Maker of Birds
Stay Away

And perhaps a piano version of Rhiannon? What else am I missing?

[PenguinHead]

So I've been wondering, if Stevie were to record her Rhiannon album from these remaining songs, what would we get?

Forest of the Black Roses
Forsaken Love
Maker of Birds
Stay Away

And perhaps a piano version of Rhiannon? What else am I missing?

I'm wondering what I'm missing.

[BlueLight]

I'm wondering what I'm missing. Stevie has a few songs we have deemed as 'Rhiannon songs." Does she designate each of them as such? Has she ever spoken seriously about a "Rhiannon" album? What exactly is a "Rhiannon"album expected to be? Where is the rest of the content?

It's not as if she has some grand, sweeping ,well-thought out plan and story line to build a concept album. I can't image she could achieve a feasibly cohesive narrative that would rise to that occasion. And do we really need another version of Rhiannon? It's yet another cannibalism of past glory.

It's understandable to romanticize about the idea. But I see no substantial ground. I doubt the the absence of any of these few songs on her new album is because she is saving them for some future project. I think she has moved beyond them.

She has indeed spoken about it on multiple occasions, and previously noted that she had recorded and mastered a good number of them for inclusion in some sort of project. In various interviews she has confirmed a number of these songs - when I have more time I can compile. She also referenced her Rhiannon project as recently as earlier this year.

[PenguinHead]

She has indeed spoken about it on multiple occasions, and previously noted that she had recorded and mastered a good number of them for inclusion in some sort of project. In various interviews she has confirmed a number of these songs - when I have more time I can compile. She also referenced her Rhiannon project as recently as earlier this year.

I'm sorry for my ignorance; I was so unaware.

[tabruns]

Wouldn't it be amazing if Fleetwood Mac did a double album like Lindsey wants, and it included 6-8 Nicks songs, including the Rhiannon songs as a suite?

[DauphineMarie]

Wouldn't it be amazing if Fleetwood Mac did a double album like Lindsey wants, and it included 6-8 Nicks songs, including the Rhiannon songs as a suite?

Well though it would be wonderful, SYW was a double album, and that was their last one, so I don't know how that would go over! But with Christine back, they just might do it again.

[tabruns]

Well though it would be wonderful, SYW was a double album, and that was their last one, so I don't know how that would go over! But with Christine back, they just might do it again.

Well, sort of. On vinyl it was def a double album. On CD it was a (albeit quite long) single. Lindsey was disappointed that they didn't stick to doing a "double album", so from his view, SYW actually wasn't the double album (double CD) that he hoped for.

There's perhaps something to be said for this. If SYW had been a double CD its sales would have counted double. IF it had sold the same 900,000 it did, then it would have been certified Platinum (for 1.8 million), which might have goosed the sales somewhat and maybe could have bumped it to Double Platinum. That didn't happen because SYW was a "single" so it achieved Gold status for 900,000 in sales but stopped there.

[James89]

That didn't happen because SYW was a "single" so it achieved Gold status for 900,000 in sales but stopped there.

I wish they would certify 'Say You Will' Platinum. It really deserves it and would be good for press when they say that their last album went Platinum.

[BlueLight]

I'm sorry for my ignorance; I was so unaware.

Please don't apologize! :xoxo:

Here are some past threads about the purported Rhiannon songs:

http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=20225

http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=43342

http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=46974

[MoonSister75]

I wish they would certify 'Say You Will' Platinum. It really deserves it and would be good for press when they say that their last album went Platinum.

Yes it does deserve it and should get more recognition. It's a favourite album of mine, I've been playing a lot lately and although not perfect, it really is very good! A superb, edgy album that is a real achievement for a band at that stage of their career.

I think we really need a double (or very long single) FM album next - with 3 songwriters that should be very possible :cool:

[tabruns]

Well Lindsey's already stated he wants to do a double, and they already have 8 or more McVie songs, plus lots of Stevie back catalog.

[PenguinHead]

Well Lindsey's already stated he wants to do a double, and they already have 8 or more McVie songs, plus lots of Stevie back catalog.

That's great to know. They really do need to make it a double album. allowing room for each writer to contribute a substantial amount of material. After all, this could be the last album they ever make together. I hope they don't give it a lame title.

[Fannymac]

Well, sort of. On vinyl it was def a double album. On CD it was a (albeit quite long) single. Lindsey was disappointed that they didn't stick to doing a "double album", so from his view, SYW actually wasn't the double album (double CD) that he hoped for.

There's perhaps something to be said for this. If SYW had been a double CD its sales would have counted double. IF it had sold the same 900,000 it did, then it would have been certified Platinum (for 1.8 million), which might have goosed the sales somewhat and maybe could have bumped it to Double Platinum. That didn't happen because SYW was a "single" so it achieved Gold status for 900,000 in sales but stopped there.

I wish they would certify 'Say You Will' Platinum. It really deserves it and would be good for press when they say that their last album went Platinum.

I would think strong sales from the new album might bump SYW past the 1 million mark!

[priestofnothing]

I want Sara - the infamous 16 minute version... With"verses forever"....

[PenguinHead]

Well, sort of. On vinyl it was def a double album. On CD it was a (albeit quite long) single. Lindsey was disappointed that they didn't stick to doing a "double album", so from his view, SYW actually wasn't the double album (double CD) that he hoped for.

There's perhaps something to be said for this. If SYW had been a double CD its sales would have counted double. IF it had sold the same 900,000 it did, then it would have been certified Platinum (for 1.8 million), which might have goosed the sales somewhat and maybe could have bumped it to Double Platinum. That didn't happen because SYW was a "single" so it achieved Gold status for 900,000 in sales but stopped there.

They should have followed with Lindsey's concept. I think the album would have been more digestible and presented better if had been broken down to a double CD format.

[singertobe]

I admit I have not heard Joan of Arc before but why would she not release a song about one of the greatest examples of a strong, independent woman:(

[Feather Blade]

I admit I have not heard Joan of Arc before but why would she not release a song about one of the greatest examples of a strong, independent woman:(

I have to confess that I am not a big fan of Joan of Arc. (sorry, I know there are lots of folks out there that love it) After about the 87th repetition of that "Turn it to the wall baby" I'm ready to cut my own throat. ;)

[pryderi]

After hearing "Lady" , I wish she would have recorded "China Doll" in the same way.

[starshine]

I have to confess that I am not a big fan of Joan of Arc. (sorry, I know there are lots of folks out there that love it) After about the 87th repetition of that "Turn it to the wall baby" I'm ready to cut my own throat. ;) I so agree with you, not a fan of Joan of Arc at all, too much repetition for me as well. Unless there is another version that has more verses that make sense, I can live without that song being officially recorded. I'd love City of Hope though esp. the full version. Amongst other songs.:shrug::D