The Dealer

[Turn It On]

Since the first single has now been released in Australia and the UK, and will be released in the US in a few hours, I'm curious as to people's opinions of the finished track.

Personally, I think it's been decently produced, it's nothing revolutionary, but we were never going to get that with this album. It does seem to be quite low quality in places - you can hear the limitations of the format.

I also feel as though her voice seems considerably 'thinner' on this release, although this likely is due to her age.

[Machu]

It's very nice. Of course I haven't heard the whole thing yet but my impression so far is that it stays true to the demo (which is one of my favorites). It's very "first-single-Stevie-Nicks"--meaning safe. Her voice sounds good though not as strong as on the "In Your Dreams" album. I wish they had added a few more embellishments like they did with "Secret Love" but I'm sure some will be fine that they didn't because overproduction seemed to be some people's complaints for that album. Not mine though. :D These things always grow more and more on me and I already like it.

Bottom line: I like it and I'm super thankful! I can't wait to buy it and pre-order the album in all of it's formats!

[BlueDenimLamp]

Are you listening to the snippet? Because the sound quality is terrible...It sounds like someone recorded it with a smart phone...Still waiting for The Dealer" to surface outside of iTunes...

[BlueLight]

Are you listening to the snippet? Because the sound quality is terrible...It sounds like someone recorded it with a smart phone...Still waiting for The Dealer" to surface outside of iTunes...

iTunes previews always sound so horrible.

[ricohv]

I'm glad it wasn't just me that thought the sound quality on this snippet isn't very good (I thought the same-that it sounded like it was recorded on a cell phone).
Ricoh

[HoursAndHours]

Are you listening to the snippet? Because the sound quality is terrible...It sounds like someone recorded it with a smart phone...Still waiting for The Dealer" to surface outside of iTunes...

It's on Amazon in the UK. No physical copies yet, but digital is there.

(I'm not in the UK, I just frantically checked the amazon site there, lol)

[Turn It On]

Are you listening to the snippet? Because the sound quality is terrible...It sounds like someone recorded it with a smart phone...Still waiting for The Dealer" to surface outside of iTunes...

No, I've bought the track, that was the purpose of the thread. I'm curious as to what people think of the actual, released track.

[Josh2003]

It sounds like it was recorded on a cell phone because it was. The person who uploaded it could only record from the iTunes "preview" snippet and used his phone to do so.

The actual version will be much better quality.

[ricohv]

It sounds like it was recorded on a cell phone because it was. The person who uploaded it could only record from the iTunes "preview" snippet and used his phone to do so.

The actual version will be much better quality.

Thank you-that makes sense! Ricoh

[Machu]

This is what I've been listening to. I posted how to listen to the higher quality preview snippet in another thread but here's a rip I made of the clip: http://www.sharebeast.com/s5jkv4ohxdtp

[sorcerer999]

I don't think this sounds "Tusk-esque" at all. I think it resembles the Heartbreakers version from the "Bella Donna" sessions far more.

She's sounding her age...and I LIKE THAT! The harmonies are always flawless and the production is great. Definitely got that "Nashville" sound.

That being said, it's a good song but I'm not as excited about it as a lead single (or a single at all) more than I was when "Secret Love" was released.

[SpyNote]

The Dealer on iTunes US now. Go buy it!

[Jondalar]

U can download it in the US right now

[Turn It On]

I don't think this sounds "Tusk-esque" at all. I think it resembles the Heartbreakers version from the "Bella Donna" sessions far more.

She's sounding her age...and I LIKE THAT! The harmonies are always flawless.

I know what you mean, it does sound very 'Heartbreakers-esque'. And yes, her harmonies with 'The Girls' are a real highlight of the track.

[bombaysaffires]

I don't think this sounds "Tusk-esque" at all. I think it resembles the Heartbreakers version from the "Bella Donna" sessions far more.

She's sounding her age...and I LIKE THAT! The harmonies are always flawless.

the keyboards definitely sound like Benmont Tench so I'll be curious to see the credits.

She IS sounding her age, and I'm ambivalent about that.:sorry:

[SpyNote]

Since the first single has now been released in Australia and the UK, and will be released in the US in a few hours, I'm curious as to people's opinions of the finished track.

Personally, I think it's been decently produced, it's nothing revolutionary, but we were never going to get that with this album. It does seem to be quite low quality in places - you can hear the limitations of the format.

I also feel as though her voice seems considerably 'thinner' on this release, although this likely is due to her age.

I think the production is great. But it was more or less finished in the versions we've heard before, so the other demos that were less polished may impress more. I'm most looking forward to "All the Beautiful Worlds," one of my favorite demos of all time. Her voice was pretty ragged at that point, so I think her current voice should be able to handle it pretty well.

[blinker12]

Really love the production and arrangement here, but that vocal - oy.

I cringe most at the way she strains to go up high on "and my wine…" in the second verse. It just sounds like a scream? I suppose I have in mind her velvety falsetto from 1981, and that's not fair. (Or isn't it? We heard her do falsetto on IYD a few times…)

On the plus side, I like the extra low note she adds to "I gave it all ouuu-out" the second or third time around. Very nice, and suits her current voice well.

This reminds me how hard it'll be to let go of my memory of her original, 30-year-old vocals on many of these songs!

[BlueLight]

I think the production is great. But it was more or less finished in the versions we've heard before, so the other demos that were less polished may impress more. I'm most looking forward to "All the Beautiful Worlds," one of my favorite demos of all time. Her voice was pretty ragged at that point, so I think her current voice should be able to handle it pretty well.

Agreed. And as to the Dealer, I listened to the Tusk demo again, and frankly, her voice sounds strained and thin. I far prefer the new (released!) version. Loving it.

[jkmaletic]

I think she sounds great and so does the production.

I'd like to thank whoever figured out that it was even available for download today. I mean, no announcement or anything (other than obscure messages from Dave Stewart).

Such smart and investigative fans - who needs Liz Rosenberg! :laugh: (just kidding Liz- you're cool and everything.)


~ Jamie

[Jondalar]

It's a comfortable song, not really single material but good and solid.

[StevieNicksfann]

I think it's a great single - verse, chorus with a great hook. So glad to hear this finally released. I only wish the lyric Jesse Showed Me At An Early Age was in it but all in all, I love it!

[mitzo]

It is a certain type of Stevie song, certainly not one I would have chosen. It sounds, well, boring. And quite casually produced and sung. A skip-over for me. But let's see how the rest sound. I am not inclined to pre-order based on this clip.

[Phoenixgypsy]

I am loving this!! This has been my favorite demo since I first heard it, I think back in 89. I am so excited that we finally have an official version of The Dealer!!

[KarmaContestant]

Her vocal really warms up later in the song. Overall, I like it!
It might have been nice to have layered her the vocals and harmonies throughout the entire song. It would lend some punchiness and give it that 7" mix quality that is so great about single mixes.

[BlueLight]

I love it. But I gotta say, I miss that "yeaahhh," after "Id've run away." Just sayin.

[gssmith]

How do you download it from iTunes?

[gssmith]

Wholly ****! You can download it! I just realized it. I never would have tried if it wasn't for y'all.

[HoursAndHours]

Really love the production and arrangement here, but that vocal - oy.

I cringe most at the way she strains to go up high on "and my wine…" in the second verse. It just sounds like a scream? I suppose I have in mind her velvety falsetto from 1981, and that's not fair. (Or isn't it? We heard her do falsetto on IYD a few times…)

On the plus side, I like the extra low note she adds to "I gave it all ouuu-out" the second or third time around. Very nice, and suits her current voice well.

This reminds me how hard it'll be to let go of my memory of her original, 30-year-old vocals on many of these songs!

That's more the trick, I think. Her voice is different now, but I don't think she's straining so much as just singing differently. There's a lot of complexity to her voice in this song, she sounds more soulful and in control to me than she has in about 30 years. I've been listening to this intermittently between songs on The Wild Heart and it stands, as far as I'm concerned. I really #%&*ing love this song. :blob2:

[bombaysaffires]

It is a certain type of Stevie song, certainly not one I would have chosen. It sounds, well, boring. And quite casually produced and sung. A skip-over for me. But let's see how the rest sound. I am not inclined to pre-order based on this clip.

^This. It's clear why it never made an album before.

[AliceLover]

Not loving it as much as Secret Love, when it came out. The second half if the song is certainly better!

[HoursAndHours]

^This. It's clear why it never made an album before.

Hmmm. I suppose I'm biased since I loved the demo versions too. But it doesn't bore me at all. I always felt that, of all the outtakes and reel songs, this one really should have been on Bella Donna, and it's absence (right between Glitter and Seventeen) seems glaringly obvious to me. :shrug:

Edit: I felt the same way about Belle Fleur not being on The Wild Heart

[BombaySapphire3]

Just got it off Amazon..it sounds pretty much the way I expected it to when I predicted multiple times on here that it would be the first single.:oI actually like her vocals on this one as well as the production which feels more organic than much of IYD IMO.I doubt it will be my favorite on the album but it is a nice classic sounding California rock song.

[Phil]

Originally posted by BombaySapphire3

Just got it off Amazon..it sounds pretty much the way I expected it to when I predicted multiple times on here that it would be the first single.

I thought it was FM77 who advised the scoop on "The Dealer" being the lead single?

[Richard B]

I pre-ordered on iTunes and got The Dealer, but it has the album art, not the single artwork. Love the song...they did a nice job with it. :cool:

[Turn It On]

Listening to it more, the vocals are pretty solid, but there is one bit:

"And my wiiine/
I see the sundown"

Yikes...

[BombaySapphire3]

Originally posted by BombaySapphire3



I thought it was FM77 who advised the scoop on "The Dealer" being the lead single?

Nope FM77 predicted it would be the first track on the album..which it actually isn't.I predicted it would be the lead single..Go back and read our posts if you care to bother.

[HoursAndHours]

Listening to it more, the vocals are pretty solid, but there is one bit:

"And my wiiine/
I see the sundown"

Yikes...

My deafness to bad Stevie must be in full swing, lol. Other people have mentioned this part too, but I can't hear anything wrong with it. :shrug:

[Phil]

Originally posted by BombaySapphire3

Nope FM77 predicted it would be the first track on the album..which it actually isn't.I predicted it would be the lead single..Go back and read our posts if you care to bother.

Goodness gracious - you deserve a medal mate!

[KenshiMaster16]

I don't know if it's just because I've spent some many years listening to the demo, but I'm actually really, really disappointed in The Dealer. Her vocals just don't hold up imo. Actually has me really worried for this project.... :sorry:

[gssmith]

My deafness to bad Stevie must be in full swing, lol. Other people have mentioned this part too, but I can't hear anything wrong with it. :shrug:

I really love the high parts about the wine and sun down. She sounds natural with no help with computers. I also liked the higher more passionate final chorus. It's a very unique and interesting song. The folks that dont like over production should like this

[mitzo]

I don't know if it's just because I've spent some many years listening to the demo, but I'm actually really, really disappointed in The Dealer. Her vocals just don't hold up imo. Actually has me really worried for this project.... :sorry:

It is pretty flat isn't it. Part of the problem with the vocals is the "who cares?" production. I especially dislike the instrumentation and the grating harmonies. It is not an interesting song. I am also concerned about the album and am not preordering or anything until I have beard more. There must be something good among the tracks. But this song, I mean, like, no way....

[StreetAngel86]

No, I've bought the track, that was the purpose of the thread. I'm curious as to what people think of the actual, released track.

i LOVE it.
never minded the demo, like but not love
but it sounds like a shiny copy of the demo
and it's growing on me.
i like that it was kept basic
i hate over produced caca and basically lots of TISL :sorry:
but this ... this is good :nod:

[Jondalar]

It is pretty flat isn't it. Part of the problem with the vocals is the "who cares?" production. I especially dislike the instrumentation and the grating harmonies. It is not an interesting song. I am also concerned about the album and am not preordering or anything until I have beard more. There must be something good among the tracks. But this song, I mean, like, no way....

I like it. It solid but not single material. Very safe song. Stevie recorded like 16 songs in a few weeKs. Of course her voice is going to horse a little bit.

[mitzo]

I guess it is a matter of taste. To me this sounds quite awful and has no redeeming qualities. I guess I will end up buying the album and only listening to two or three tracks. And anticipating the FM album.

[Jondalar]

I guess it is a matter of taste. To me this sounds quite awful and has no redeeming qualities. I guess I will end up buying the album and only listening to two or three tracks. And anticipating the FM album.

I understand. Hardly anything I wanted made the cut. I think she made this one more for herself. Hoping other demos show up on Fleetwood Mac album.

[mitzo]

I understand. Hardly anything I wanted made the cut. I think she made this one more for herself. Hoping other demos show up on Fleetwood Mac album.

Yeah. And you know, the production is what makes or breaks a song, quite often. If this whole album has this clunky sound, it won't be good.

[Stevie's~Prince]

No Christian (Spinning Wheel) or Forest Of the Black Roses!! :(

I'm more or less happy to have a new track of sorts, I'd be happy if she farted into a microphone intermittently for 4 and a half minutes :]

All seriousness aside it's solid. Seems like perhaps, here at least, they've tried to stay true to the demo in vibe and tune and am expecting that now for majority of the album.

The only way this project could be a disappointment to me would be if she fails miserably at the end of Twisted.. The vers. from the movie soundtrack with Lindsey at the end.. She needs to smash it

The sun goes down
(well the sun goes down)
Chasin' down the demons
(chasin down the demons)
You think you hear demons
(you think you hear demons)
Cryin' out for love
(I think you are the demon)
Chasin' down the demons
(the sun goes down)
Chasin' the demons down
(oh, the sun goes down)
You'd rather be rapped up
(the sun goes down)
In the arms of a storm
(chasin' down the demons)
Chasin' the demons
(there cryin' out for love, love)<3

Sorry lol

[Stevie's~Prince]

Wow, last time I copy and paste lyrics :shrug:

[Jondalar]

Yeah. And you know, the production is what makes or breaks a song, quite often. If this whole album has this clunky sound, it won't be good.

I like that sound because it's very Bella Donna.

[mitzo]

I like that sound because it's very Bella Donna.

I could never stand that sound. Everything about it makes me cringe. Funny how my favourite singer songwriter is also my least favourite. She probably went into this project saying she wanted to stick with the original sounds of the demos. And this first snippet falls as flat as the original.

[MoonSister75]

I really love the high parts about the wine and sun down. She sounds natural with no help with computers. I also liked the higher more passionate final chorus. It's a very unique and interesting song. The folks that dont like over production should like this

Agreed! I also love the high parts and the fact she sounds natural on this.

It took me 2/3 listens to get used to older Stevie singing it, but I now really love it!!

And it doesn't sound highly processed - wonderful!

[James89]

It's already at #60 on the UK iTunes Top Rock songs which is GREAT!!!! :nod:

[Jondalar]

Agreed! I also love the high parts and the fact she sounds natural on this.

It took me 2/3 listens to get used to older Stevie singing it, but I now really love it!!

And it doesn't sound highly processed - wonderful!

She does sound natural and it fits with the music.

[Jondalar]

Who are they going to release this song too? What format?

[James89]

Does anyone know if it's been played or mentioned on BBC Radio 2 yet? :shrug:

[MoonSister75]

She does sound natural and it fits with the music.

I love Stevie as she is now and want her voice to reflect that, rather than trying to re-create Stevie of the 70's/80's. It's a great combination - the old songs and her natural voice as it is now :nod:

[MoonSister75]

Does anyone know if it's been played or mentioned on BBC Radio 2 yet? :shrug:

I used to listen to Radio 2 everyday, but haven't for a while, so I have no idea.

[James89]

I bet Radio 2 will play this to death, which is a good thing. It'll show up on their playlist as of Saturday I bet. :nod:

[MoonSister75]

I bet Radio 2 will play this to death, which is a good thing. It'll show up on their playlist as of Saturday I bet. :nod:

I really do hope so!! I hadn't thought about whether they'd be playing it, but that would be great! :D

[James89]

I really do hope so!! I hadn't thought about whether they'd be playing it, but that would be great! :D

Well it's available to download now so promotion is needed, and in the UK the main radio promotion is Radio 2 who promoted In Your Dreams and Secret Love like mad.

[James89]

It's already at #60 on the UK iTunes Top Rock songs which is GREAT!!!! :nod:

It's up to #50 now, right behind The Chain at #49!!! :D

[MoonSister75]

They did play it alot. So can we assume they will do the same with The Dealer?! fingers crossed! :angel:

[James89]

Like I said before, it's at #50 on the UK iTunes Top Rock songs but what about the US? Also the pre-order for the deluxe 24 Karat is at #90 on the UK iTunes Top Rock albums.

[Dodfather]

LOVING it!! It's pretty classic Stevie which is just what you would expect from such older tracks :)

[Jondalar]

Like I said before, it's at #50 on the UK iTunes Top Rock songs but what about the US? Also the pre-order for the deluxe 24 Karat is at #90 on the UK iTunes Top Rock albums.

22 on iTunes rock chart

[TheWILDheart]

I like the track - it's classic Stevie, of course. But I don't like the very nasally vocal or the very tinny production. The whole track sounds distorted and muffled :(

[James89]

22 on iTunes rock chart

The Dealer is already at #22 in the US? That's much better than I thought. It's up to #40 now here in the UK. It appears to go up in 10's......

[Jondalar]

The single is 32

[MusicInferno]

I don't think her vocal sounds any more nasal than on IYD, SYW or TISL. I love what I heard so far. :)

[markolas]

Thins was never a favorite of mine, but I'm liking the finished version a lot. She really goes for it, vocally.

[welcomechris]

In the US, The Dealer is currently #28 on the iTunes Rock Charts

[James89]

In the US, The Dealer is currently #28 on the iTunes Rock Charts

I just looked on the US iTunes and the album is already at #84 on the main albums chart which I find INCREDIBLE. There is also a really nice advertisement for the pre-order and track on the main US iTunes page which for some reason isn't on the UK one. :shrug:

[welcomechris]

The Dealer is down to #24 on the rock charts here in the us

[welcomechris]

HOLY SHAZZAM! 24K gold is #70 in the itunes pop charts!!!!!

[welcomechris]

And #11 on the iTunes Rock Charts (24K Gold)!

[BlueLight]

Guys, so I gotta say: I listened to The Dealer several times as soon as I got up this morning. And I absolutely love it. I know some people have said that Stevie's voice sounds thin, but it sounds great to me - I think the main difference here is that the production is a bit more stripped down than we're used to.

I think the main challenge for all of us is to listen to all of these songs fresh and with a new set of ears (so to speak), rather than comparing them to the demos we're used to. Cannot wait to hear the rest of this album. :blob2:

[welcomechris]

The Dealer is now on Youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBTzv9qRQJg&feature=youtu.be

[MoonSister75]

The Dealer is now on Youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBTzv9qRQJg&feature=youtu.be

I just found that!! :blob2::blob2: Nice lyric video!

[olive]

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[welcomechris]

Good news! The Dealer is currently #16 on itunes rock in the US! 24K Gold is #10

and on the itunes Pop Charts 24K is #63

[Josh2003]

The lyric video is...dare I say it...crap?

One panning shot over a single photo?

And who transcribed the lyrics? "If I'd **a** looked a little ahead, I'd **a** run away?"

*shudder*

[Danielle]

I like it a lot better than any of its demos so I'm a happy fan today.

[sue]

I've just listened to the whole of The Dealer, I like it, lots, and am very excited about the full length album. Hope BBC Radio will play the single from their Playlist next week.

[AnthonyMI]

My only complaint about the vocal is that it is too forward in the mix. I think if they had blended the vocal more into the middle and further down in the mix, with a little more echo chamber, it would have been perfect. Also wouldnt have minded a tad more of The Girls in the mix for the harmony spots.

Alas. I like it. It is "Classic Stevie Nicks" and brings back the SOUND of Bella Donna. I Love the organic nature of it. Real instruments. Real players. It sounds like Classic Rock. Something we have not heard from her since....The Wild Heart album

[HoursAndHours]

The lyric video is...dare I say it...crap?

One panning shot over a single photo?

And who transcribed the lyrics? "If I'd **a** looked a little ahead, I'd **a** run away?"

*shudder*

I think it's kind "a" cute. LOL. :D

[gldstwmn]

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Love! :blob2:

[MusicInferno]

Btw I love the "myyy wiiiine" part. Doesn't sound strained or nasal to me at all.

[Jondalar]

My only complaint about the vocal is that it is too forward in the mix. I think if they had blended the vocal more into the middle and further down in the mix, with a little more echo chamber, it would have been perfect. Also wouldnt have minded a tad more of The Girls in the mix for the harmony spots.

Alas. I like it. It is "Classic Stevie Nicks" and brings back the SOUND of Bella Donna. I Love the organic nature of it. Real instruments. Real players. It sounds like Classic Rock. Something we have not heard from her since....The Wild Heart album

That is why I love this -- it is Classic Stevie Nicks, never thought I would say that again.
Organic is a great word for this.

[HoursAndHours]

Btw I love the "myyy wiiiine" part. Doesn't sound strained or nasal to me at all.

Same here, and I tried, because other people brought it up a couple times, and I even tried again this morning, for the sake of making sure I'm not being an idiot, lol. I still don't hear anything wrong with it.

That is why I love this -- it is Classic Stevie Nicks, never thought I would say that again.
Organic is a great word for this.

I felt the same way. Actually, you can play it right along with The Wild Heart and it totally works. I never thought I'd feel like I was listening to "that Stevie" again, and I'm over the moon right now. :blob2:

[DauphineMarie]

Same here, and I tried, because other people brought it up a couple times, and I even tried again this morning, for the sake of making sure I'm not being an idiot, lol. I still don't hear anything wrong with it.



I felt the same way. Actually, you can play it right along with The Wild Heart and it totally works. I never thought I'd feel like I was listening to "that Stevie" again, and I'm over the moon right now. :blob2:

This is exactly how I felt when I heard it. It takes a complete turn away from the overproduction of some of her other material. I think someone mentioned organic, and that is so true. :D

[saradorna]

When I heard the snippet I didn't like it but after listening the whole song I really like it! Yes, if you compare the voice is different but that was to be expect it. I still think she did a good job on it.

[AnthonyMI]

When I heard the snippet I didn't like it but after listening the whole song I really like it! Yes, if you compare the voice is different but that was to be expect it. I still think she did a good job on it.



The vocal got better as it went on too. It was like she started out asleep at the wheel and then her coffee kicked in and she was like "IM GONNA BELT THIS LIKE ITS 1981 BETCHES!!!"

[HoursAndHours]

The vocal got better as it went on too. It was like she started out asleep at the wheel and then her coffee kicked in and she was like "IM GONNA BELT THIS LIKE ITS 1981 BETCHES!!!"

I think she just wanted to start gently, lol. I really wish they'd made two tracks available, because I'm going to play this song until my head explodes, and it would be nice to have a counterpoint. :D

[DauphineMarie]

The vocal got better as it went on too. It was like she started out asleep at the wheel and then her coffee kicked in and she was like "IM GONNA BELT THIS LIKE ITS 1981 BETCHES!!!"

LOL I just spit out my drink everywhere :laugh: I think it sounds like 1981 too!

[MusicInferno]

The audio quality of the lyric video is quite bad too, isn' it?

And I noticed that some of her lines sound clearer than others as if you could tell that they are from different takes. Did anyone else notice that, too?

For example at 3:16 the line "You just almost stay here" is much clearer than the others.

[ViscountViktor]

I really like it! I disagree with the comments about the "my wine" lyric, I think the vocal there is fine! I think it's a great vocal performance from someone aged 66, she is not in her early 30s any more! Very impressed overall, and can't wait for the Deluxe Edition!

[gldstwmn]

Okay so how awesome is it that here we are in 2014 listening to an official version of The Dealer? No one EVER thought this would happen.

[HoursAndHours]

Okay so how awesome is it that here we are in 2014 listening to an official version of The Dealer? No one EVER thought this would happen.

I was just thinking that. The single cover came with the digital download from Warner Bros. I'm looking at that in my iTunes playlist, and thinking that this single *should*have existed in 1981. I feel like she's corrected a cosmic error or something. :D

[gldstwmn]

I was just thinking that. The single cover came with the digital download from Warner Bros. I'm looking at that in my iTunes playlist, and thinking that this single *should*have existed in 1981. I feel like she's corrected a cosmic error or something. :D

Right? How many missed opportunities have there been? The Bella Donna sessions are some of the greatest unreleased tracks ever. They could have put
Stop Draggin, Leather and Lace and Edge back on the radio with a 30 year re release and included the outtakes. Some of her outtakes are hits! I just don't get it sometimes. Mick is right. It's the poorly run franchise in rock and roll history.

[KarmaContestant]

Right? How many missed opportunities have there been? The Bella Donna sessions are some of the greatest unreleased tracks ever. They could have put
Stop Draggin, Leather and Lace and Edge back on the radio with a 30 year re release and included the outtakes. Some of her outtakes are hits! I just don't get it sometimes. Mick is right. It's the poorly run franchise in rock and roll history.

Maybe After The Glitter Fades would have finally got it's due on country radio. :nod:

[HoursAndHours]

Right? How many missed opportunities have there been? The Bella Donna sessions are some of the greatest unreleased tracks ever. They could have put
Stop Draggin, Leather and Lace and Edge back on the radio with a 30 year re release and included the outtakes. Some of her outtakes are hits! I just don't get it sometimes. Mick is right. It's the poorly run franchise in rock and roll history.

I agree. But I think the problem is she she doesn't have the masters anymore, so she wouldn't be able to do that without re-recording them anyway. On the upside, the alternative to this release was basically a 20th anniversary edition of Street Angel. I'll take this, please. LOL.

On a sidenote, I wonder when we get the actual music video?

[gldstwmn]

Maybe After The Glitter Fades would have finally got it's due on country radio. :nod:

I listened to two different versions of that on Saturday, the one with the mandolin and another wihtout from 4/81. Stevie and Jimmy Iovine are f**king brilliant together. I love that we're getting these demos now. But hearing them in their early form.... Jesus don't I sound like a total Stevie fan girl now? Ugh. Nevermind. :o
And yeah, I never liked this song very much in the beginning. How does she do that?

[KarmaContestant]

I listened to two different versions of that on Saturday, the one with the mandolin and another wihtout from 4/81. Stevie and Jimmy Iovine are f**king brilliant together.

Best take ever. :nod:

[BlueDenimLamp]

Right? How many missed opportunities have there been? The Bella Donna sessions are some of the greatest unreleased tracks ever. They could have put
Stop Draggin, Leather and Lace and Edge back on the radio with a 30 year re release and included the outtakes. Some of her outtakes are hits! I just don't get it sometimes. Mick is right. It's the poorly run franchise in rock and roll history.

I've said it before that there should have been a 30th "Bella Donna" re-release...Re-master the record and if possible remix songs like "Leather and Lace" "The Highwayman" "After The Glitter fades" for a slightly modern country sound and she could have had some cross-over success...

[SpyNote]

I really like it! I disagree with the comments about the "my wine" lyric, I think the vocal there is fine! I think it's a great vocal performance from someone aged 66, she is not in her early 30s any more! Very impressed overall, and can't wait for the Deluxe Edition!

I'm cool with Stevie's lower register now. That wasn't always the case. I think we all think about what could have been if Stevie had taken better care of her voice. Her voice is clearly not as versatile as it used to be, where it could effortlessly hit the sweet spot. But she can still turn out a good vocal when she really works at. I'm sure the vocal coach has helped her get the most of what she has left.

[wheart]

Just listened to it. Now I remember that song...honestly, I never cared for it that much HOWEVER I think they did a great job. Very nice production and they mixed in Sharon and Lori's vocals very well (sometimes they're not quite loud enough). I think Stevie did the best she could with her voice today which is pretty darn good. Can't wait to get home and listen to it over and over! :laugh:

[RavenOfRhiannon]

The lyric video is...dare I say it...crap?

One panning shot over a single photo?

And who transcribed the lyrics? "If I'd **a** looked a little ahead, I'd **a** run away?"

*shudder*

Ida Runaway is my new drag name.

[brad975]

I first discovered the Tusk-era demo of this song 10 years ago and listened to it on a loop.

I'm doing the same thing at work today with the new version, enjoying the fuller instrumentation of the update. The more I listen, the more I like the new vocal.

To me, this is just a great song. And a great choice for a first single. I hope rock radio goes for it in a big way.

[BlueDenimLamp]

"24 KG is #9 on the amazon chart ( ahead of Rumours :nod: ) Amazon charts (http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/dmusic/195441011/ref=pd_zg_hrsr_dmusic_1_3_last)

[MoonSister75]

Review of The Dealer in Rolling Stone

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/stevie-nicks-delivers-emotional-new-track-dealer-20140805

[Josh2003]

Another thing that I am absolutely loving with this song is Sharon and Lori's backing vocals...and how they sounds IDENTICAL to their vocals from all of the outtakes we've known and loved over the years.

[olive]

it's on SPOTIFY

[Bandon]

I never thought The Dealer was that catchy of a demo, and still don't think it's that catchy of a single. However, I like the Bella Donna-era vibe. Hell, they even included keyboards and Petty-sound to boot! A little disappointed with the vocals. In the beginning of the song, she sounds like she's close to "bottoming out" vocally a few times (i.e, Destiny and Destiny Rules), but thankfully doesn't and gains strength toward the end. I know she can nail killer vocals still, but must not have had the time. Overall, I think it's a decent version. Hoping there are stronger cuts.

[TrueFaith77]

Am I the only person IN ABSOLUTE TERROR imagining Stevie doing card-dealing pantomimes during her performances of this song on the talk show circuit?!

Otherwise, I think it's a fine song. It seems to be about Lindsey. The ending switch up is rousing. The chorus is catchy. The harmonies are sweet. The guitar is safe.

I probably prefer it to Secret Love, maybe, possibly, but don't think much of either as lead singles.

Still, In Your Dreams was a masterpiece so I'm hopeful for some inspired pieces on this opus.

[michelej1]

Am I the only person IN ABSOLUTE TERROR imagining Stevie doing card-dealing pantomimes during her performances of this song on the talk show circuit?!


Oh my goodness. And then the fans would be imitating her card dealing in the audience when she performs the song in concert.

In real life, I can't imagine Stevie is a good card dealer.

Michele

[HoursAndHours]

Am I the only person IN ABSOLUTE TERROR imagining Stevie doing card-dealing pantomimes during her performances of this song on the talk show circuit?!

I hope she throws cards to the audience, Gambit style. :laugh:

[michelej1]

Review of The Dealer in Rolling Stone

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/stevie-nicks-delivers-emotional-new-track-dealer-20140805

[Thanks. Look at Waddy getting that producer credit!]

By Jon Blistein | August 5, 2014 Rolling Stone

Stevie Nicks has handed out "The Dealer," the first track from her upcoming solo album, 24 Karat Gold — Songs From the Vault. The upcoming album stands as the Fleetwood Mac frontwoman's first LP since 2011's In Your Dreams.

The swinging, piano-driven cut comes complete with a lyric video and finds Nicks delivering an ode to misplaced love, owning mistakes and the catharsis that comes from reconciling the two. "I was the mistress of my fate, I was the card shark / If I'd've looked a little ahead, I would've run away," Nicks belts during chorus, her velveteen voice taking on a wizened-with-age quality that's perfectly belied by the line's winking conclusion: "If I'd really known you then / You'd've had to watch out."

Nicks initially wrote and recorded "The Dealer" with Fleetwood Mac in the late Seventies when the band was working on their 1979 album, Tusk. A leaked copy of the original demo has been floating around for some time, and as Nicks said in the press release announcing 24 Karat Gold, it was bootlegs like this that inspired her to reimagine tracks from her back catalog that never saw an official release.

Produced by Nicks, Dave Stewart and guitarist Waddy Wachtel, 24 Karat Gold will see release on October 7th via Warner Bros., though vinyl lovers will be able to pick up a limited edition double LP a week earlier starting September 29th (pre-orders begin today, August 5th). The album artwork will also feature never-before-seen Polaroids taken by Nicks from throughout her career, while the deluxe photo book CD boasts 48-pages of pictures from her private collection, as well as two bonus tracks. Nicks will also be previewing more cuts from 24 Karat Gold on her new Instagram account in the lead-up to the LP's release.

Following 24 Karat Gold's release, Nicks will embark on yet another massive tour with Fleetwood Mac, this one reuniting the group with keyboardist and singer Christine McVie, who left the band in 1998. The On With the Show tour kicks off on Tuesday, September 30th in Minneapolis, Minnesota at the Target Center and wraps up 34 shows later on December 20th at the Tampa Bay Times Forum in Tampa Bay, Florida.




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[Lil-Miss78]

I admit I'm slightly surprised they chose this one for the first released single. Based on the snippets Dave threw out of I Don't Care, Starshine, and 24K Gold, I think they're far more fun vocally. That said, the production on this is right, vocals are fine for me..... especially the harmonies....... really happy she kept it it old school, and seems to be getting back to the Stevie I know and love. TISL was ok but Street Angel andIn Your Dreams did nothing for me. I'm faaaaaar more excited for 24K Gold.

[Macfanforever]

I've said it before that there should have been a 30th "Bella Donna" re-release...Re-master the record and if possible remix songs like "Leather and Lace" "The Highwayman" "After The Glitter fades" for a slightly modern country sound and she could have had some cross-over success...

I agree.With todays country is more rock influenced .Stevie with those tunes would fit in except with radio's age discrimination problem with older artists.

[PenguinHead]

Ida Runaway is my new drag name.

Hello Ida! Or Miss Runaway.

[editme2]

On tonight's episode of Watch What Happens Live, host Andy Cohen gave his nightly Mazel award to Stevie and "The Dealer." He RAVED about the song, calling it classic Stevie Nicks, and said how thrilled he was that Stevie is releasing new music. They played a few seconds of the lyric video, too.

Was nice to see Stevie getting some good exposure.

[bombaysaffires]

I admit I'm slightly surprised they chose this one for the first released single. Based on the snippets Dave threw out of I Don't Care, Starshine, and 24K Gold, I think they're far more fun vocally. That said, the production on this is right, vocals are fine for me..... especially the harmonies....... really happy she kept it it old school, and seems to be getting back to the Stevie I know and love. TISL was ok but Street Angel andIn Your Dreams did nothing for me. I'm faaaaaar more excited for 24K Gold.

maybe they thought, since she won't get played on the stations that play younger, hipper music that they'd aim for the middle of the road adult contemporary type stations… it is rather mellow and mainstream….:shrug:

[Hawkeye]

I've listened to the official dealer more in one day then all ofits demo versions combined the last 10 years.

It's odd that I like the finished version so much more when it's probably the truest to any vault song she's released ever, except maybe sorcerer. But I love her more mature vocal on this. And the instrumentation is much better. Particularly this little piano riff at exactly 29 seconds in. We haven't heard piano so prominent in Stevie's music for years.

[BigStevieFan66]

I've listened to the official dealer more in one day then all ofits demo versions combined the last 10 years.

It's odd that I like the finished version so much more when it's probably the truest to any vault song she's released ever, except maybe sorcerer. But I love her more mature vocal on this. And the instrumentation is much better. Particularly this little piano riff at exactly 29 seconds in. We haven't heard piano so prominent in Stevie's music for years.

Same here! 11 times on my mac and 17 times on the iphone...

Don't know why I'm so obsessed with this song but I'm going along with it, lol.

[BombaySapphire3]

I admit I'm slightly surprised they chose this one for the first released single. Based on the snippets Dave threw out of I Don't Care, Starshine, and 24K Gold, I think they're far more fun vocally. That said, the production on this is right, vocals are fine for me..... especially the harmonies....... really happy she kept it it old school, and seems to be getting back to the Stevie I know and love. TISL was ok but Street Angel andIn Your Dreams did nothing for me. I'm faaaaaar more excited for 24K Gold.

I'm very excited for the album as well and even though I predicted that The Dealer would be the first single a week before it happened I don't feel that it will be the most interesting song on the album .Stevie has played it "safe " on her first singles for years now.I do like The Dealer very much however .It seems that the album will be unapologetically classic rock and if this single is a harbinger for the album I think that we are all in for a sonic experience not really heard since Stevie's halcyon solo days of the early 1980s.

[secondhandchain]

I like it, just wished they had a hookier ending and guitar parts a la Gypsy. I think that's where Lindsey would have knocked it out of the park

[PenguinHead]

On tonight's episode of Watch What Happens Live, host Andy Cohen gave his nightly Mazel award to Stevie and "The Dealer." He RAVED about the song, calling it classic Stevie Nicks, and said how thrilled he was that Stevie is releasing new music. They played a few seconds of the lyric video, too.

Was nice to see Stevie getting some good exposure.


I think Stevie's album is going to get more media buzz than we've seen in a long time. This time planets have aligned in her favor. This album may be a surprise hit that hearkens back to her solo heydays circa 1981-1985.

I'm really happy that in these early twilight years of her career, Stevie is stepping it up, and getting the recognition she deserves. This album has a built-in, interesting history, and people are responding to it. It has the potential to be a pivotal and significant part of Stevie's legacy. Again, much thanks to Dave Stewart for motivating her and believing in her.

[Wing24]

On tonight's episode of Watch What Happens Live, host Andy Cohen gave his nightly Mazel award to Stevie and "The Dealer." He RAVED about the song, calling it classic Stevie Nicks, and said how thrilled he was that Stevie is releasing new music. They played a few seconds of the lyric video, too.

Was nice to see Stevie getting some good exposure.

I'll bet Andy is already trying to get her on the show. It would be great if she came on when FM is in NY. It's such a fun, relaxed setting Stevie would be cracking up the whole time.

[Justlikethesea]

I've listened to the official dealer more in one day then all ofits demo versions combined the last 10 years.

It's odd that I like the finished version so much more when it's probably the truest to any vault song she's released ever, except maybe sorcerer. But I love her more mature vocal on this. And the instrumentation is much better. Particularly this little piano riff at exactly 29 seconds in. We haven't heard piano so prominent in Stevie's music for years.

I totally agree. I always kind of liked the song, but it wasn't a favorite of mine. The finished version already got me hooked. I like the old school rock vibe - very classic Stevie and I love her vocals, very warm, very soulful. But I have always preferred her more mature voice. Can't wait to hear more.

[Jondalar]

The Dealer is a better first single than Secret Love.

[Gold Dust Woman]

I love Stevie, I really do, but The Dealer bores me. I don't like how strained her voice sounds in some parts either. I really wanted to like this but I just can't.

[louielouie2000]

Ida Runaway is my new drag name.

Ida had to watch out! :laugh:

If somebody doesn't hit the stage at Night Of A Thousand Stevies next year as Ida Runaway, I will be sorely disappointed. :p

I love Stevie, I really do, but The Dealer bores me. I don't like how strained her voice sounds in some parts either. I really wanted to like this but I just can't.

This is how I feel as well. That being said, I'm not letting it dampen my excitement for the album. :nod:

[gypsy333]

Excited about the new album, and I agree, there seems to be alot of buzz and excitement around this release...:angel:

[HoursAndHours]

I love Stevie, I really do, but The Dealer bores me. I don't like how strained her voice sounds in some parts either. I really wanted to like this but I just can't.

I'm still not hearing the strain in her voice. To me she sounds better than she has in years. :shrug:

Same here! 11 times on my mac and 17 times on the iphone...

Don't know why I'm so obsessed with this song but I'm going along with it, lol.

It's like she took a risk, went for the power, and actually found it. Seriously, those high-powered notes are sweet, like Bella Donna sweet. I can't stop listening to it either, it's got almost 50 plays since I downloaded it. :laugh:

[welcomechris]

I made a mix of the dealer with added bongos, sped the track up a little, pitched it a little, and added amazing backing vocals by Stevie recorded in 1980


https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/The%20Dealer%20%28Feat.%20Stevie%20Nicks%20from%201980%29.mp3?_subject_uid=149711840&w=AAAMWN8_PZsf4qJXvjvBOycsCZ8VzYfLotr_JEIvOznW_w

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[gypsy333]

Stevie Nicks: The Dealer trending on Facebook right now:]

[gldstwmn]

The Dealer is a better first single than Secret Love.

I agree although Glen Ballard and Dave did a lot for that demo. So are you liking it better now?

[Gold Dust Woman]

I'm still not hearing the strain in her voice. To me she sounds better than she has in years. :shrug:

Its just on certain words i think she sounds strained but each to their own.
It could also be because I don't like the song. I definitely won't be wasting my money on the record. Maybe once I hear afew more tracks I'll be a bit more excited but so far it's a big fat MEH from me. Sorry stevie!

[welcomechris]

Well Did You Guys Like The New Mix I Made on the last page

[welcomechris]

Listen to the mix of the dealer it is FAR less boring

[sodascouts]

Am I the only person IN ABSOLUTE TERROR imagining Stevie doing card-dealing pantomimes during her performances of this song on the talk show circuit?!Oh my goodness. And then the fans would be imitating her card dealing in the audience when she performs the song in concert.


NO, PLEASE NO.

[BlueDenimLamp]

I don't hear anything wrong with her voice...Go back and listen to "Ghosts Are Gone" same thing she's just putting some power behind those notes...Also I think there is a little less embellishment /studio processing from Dave on the vocal track, meaning it's closer to her natural sound...

[Gold Dust Woman]

Listen to the mix of the dealer it is FAR less boring

Will do :)

[sodascouts]

The lyric video is...dare I say it...crap?

One panning shot over a single photo?

And who transcribed the lyrics? "If I'd **a** looked a little ahead, I'd **a** run away?"

*shudder*

I can't believe how amateurishly done this so-called video is. Seriously, a 13 year old could have done this with the free version of Windows MovieMaker that comes with your PC (could have done it better, actually... or should I say "could a"). It's embarrassingly bad. Was this done in ten minutes by a grammatically-challenged intern right before the song's release?

However, let me balance my disappointment with it by saying that I am delighted she allowed the song to be put on YouTube officially instead of desperately having fanvids of it taken down right and left. So many legacy artists rail against YouTube and Google as if they were tools of the devil. I am very pleasantly surprised that Stevie has stepped away from her "evil internet" stance to do this. A crap video is better than no video, and hopefully a real one will eventually be made.

[HoursAndHours]

Isn't there an SNL character that does this? :laugh:
:laugh: :laugh:

[KarmaContestant]

Isn't there an SNL character that does this? :laugh:

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/ObdC3uhPeEY/hqdefault.jpg

[StevieNicksfann]

Listen to the mix of the dealer it is FAR less boring

link doen't work for me

[welcomechris]

I'll fix it one sec

[welcomechris]

https://www.dropbox.com/s/trk1603eipg45gh/The%20Dealer%20%28Feat.%20Stevie%20Nicks%20from%201980%29.mp3

[PenguinHead]

THIS. Is exactly the kind of crap I predicted. Grumpycat Ledgies who are never happy unless they are unhappy!!!

:laugh: Love it! The hyper critical analysis is really grating. Instead of being grateful for new music, and accepting it for what it is, it's all about "me, me and me and what I wanted." All of Stevie's albums, like all albums ever made, have songs we prefer over others. Get over yourself Grumpy Cats.

[PenguinHead]

"Grumpy Cat" is grumpy and posting all over the place...I knew it wouldn't take long for someone to rain on the Stevie parade...

It's not just raining, it's pissing! A message to the Grumpy Cats: Urine a bad state of mind.

[wheart]

Dude I don't expect to like everything that my favourite singers/bands release. It's an opinion. My opinion is that The Dealer is boring. It hasn't got me excited for her album. What's the biggy? Sensitive much?!

you're entitled to your opinion...as is everyone else on this board. And while I'm thrilled to have a new solo album from Stevie, I gotta admit I'm not crazy about The Dealer as a song. I don't hate it..I just don't think it's a great song. I think, for me, the lyrics have something to do with it. BUT I have been humming it all day so there you go.

[Hawkeye]

Dude I don't expect to like everything that my favourite singers/bands release. It's an opinion. My opinion is that The Dealer is boring. It hasn't got me excited for her album. What's the biggy? Sensitive much?!

It's fine not to like the dealer, but doesn't make sense to say I'm gonna pass on the whole album because of it.

[jkmaletic]

There has been a lot of reviews for The Dealer and ALL have been positive (that I've come across anyway)! :D

So happy for Stevie and I'm proud to be a fan.


Jamie

[Hawkeye]

Sorry Chris, but I like what they released better. I'm not enjoying young stevie back up old stevie that much. Thank you for doing that tho.

[HoursAndHours]

There has been a lot of reviews for The Dealer and ALL have been positive (that I've come across anyway)! :D

So happy for Stevie and I'm proud to be a fan.


Jamie

I'm glad that it's getting good press - I think it's a great song (actually, I also think it's far superior to the demo at this point). I'm really hopeful about the record now - I think it's going to be great, possibly my favorite.

[tothegypsy]

I like The Dealer. I think Mistress of my Fate would be a more "Stevie" title, but I've always thought it was a great, catchy song. I will say though that I think a better vocal could have been coaxed out of her. It strikes me as a very off-the-cuff take, whereas I think she's capable of a vocal where she doesn't have those somewhat shrill, strained moments.

[Gold Dust Woman]

Some of the replies to my negative comment are seriously OTT.
I did say I won't be purchasing the record just yet and I also said maybe once I've heard a few more songs I'll be a bit more excited.
Calling me, and anyone else, a turd troll (or whatever it was) is really mature and such a great way to make your point so welldone!
I'll refrain from posting anything negative just incase I hurt anymore feelings. I'll try to only post happy clappy positive thoughts from now on... *think happy thoughts*

[bombaysaffires]

c'mon, people. really, why does anyone here care what any one other person thinks? why should that impact your liking or not liking the song? who cares. If you like and think it's the greatest thing ever, good for you! If you think it's boring and are not impressed, good for you! Really, if your enjoyment (or non enjoyment) of a song is that impacted by what anyone else says or thinks, your problems far transcend this forum.

Like it, don't like it…that's what the world is about. Why get into flame wars over it?? Oh wait, this is The Ledge. <facepalm>;)

[gldstwmn]

I can't believe how amateurishly done this so-called video is. Seriously, a 13 year old could have done this with the free version of Windows MovieMaker that comes with your PC (could have done it better, actually... or should I say "could a"). It's embarrassingly bad. Was this done in ten minutes by a grammatically-challenged intern right before the song's release?

However, let me balance my disappointment with it by saying that I am delighted she allowed the song to be put on YouTube officially instead of desperately having fanvids of it taken down right and left. So many legacy artists rail against YouTube and Google as if they were tools of the devil. I am very pleasantly surprised that Stevie has stepped away from her "evil internet" stance to do this. A crap video is better than no video, and hopefully a real one will eventually be made.
This video is fine with me because it begs the question. If this is the official Dealer video then what did they film the last week? :confused:
Also I don't blame Stevie for not wanting to spend a gazillion dollars on a video these days. Hell, MTV and VH1 done't even play them these days. Where would we even see it?

[KarmaContestant]

This video is fine with me because it begs the question. If this is the official Dealer video then what did they film the last week? :confused:

It's not the official video. It's the official lyric video. :nod:

er..that's my take, anyway.

[gldstwmn]

It's not the official video. It's the official lyric video. :nod:

er..that's my take, anyway.

Touche'. You could be right but now I kind of hope that they filmed something like All The Beautiful Worlds, Blue Water or If You Were My Love.

[jcfree]

Listen to the mix of the dealer it is FAR less boring

Where is the link for this mix?

[mitzo]

Some of the replies to my negative comment are seriously OTT.
I did say I won't be purchasing the record just yet and I also said maybe once I've heard a few more songs I'll be a bit more excited.
Calling me, and anyone else, a turd troll (or whatever it was) is really mature and such a great way to make your point so welldone!
I'll refrain from posting anything negative just incase I hurt anymore feelings. I'll try to only post happy clappy positive thoughts from now on... *think happy thoughts*

I am with GDW on this. I am very underwhelmed by The Dealer and I am not going to buy the album until I hear a bit more. I may just buy individual songs online instead of the whole thing. I love Stevie but I dislike this particular song and its arrangement and production. And an album loaded with stuff like that is not worth my hard earned money at this point.

[Jondalar]

I really like this song. It's meaningful and the lyrics actually make sense. She also manages to get in the mystical in a good way. It's California rock from the late 70s and early 80s. This would fit snuggly on her greatest hits. The song is totally Bella Donna in my opinion. If they can turn the demo into this, I have hope for the album.

Stevie's aged voice makes this song more meaningful. That being said, her voice sounds strained, like she is barely getting there. The part where she sings "and my wine" is truly cringe-worthy.

If she can sing Italian Summer, then she shouldn't struggle with this. I know she had to record 16 tracks in two weeks and there was no time to rest her voice. It doesn't feel like they went back and redid the vocals after they laid down all the tracks. She is everywhere so maybe she never had enough time.Still, she could sing this song a lot better than this. The music is really good but it could of been a little sharper.

Still, this song is a gem. I don't understand why some people are calling it boring. Must not be listening to the words.

[MusicInferno]

She belts out the "my wine" line, but sounds totally confident and strong doing it.
People hear different things though it seems, that's ok. ;)

Imo there are much more strained vocals in her music from 2000 until now.

[Macfanforever]

Heres a snapshot of my Google news page.I'm glad the word is getting out.

[welcomechris]

Here is the link to the mix

https://www.dropbox.com/s/trk1603eipg45gh/The%20Dealer%20%28Feat.%20Stevie%20Nicks%20from%201980%29.mp3

[KarmaContestant]

I really like this song. It's meaningful and the lyrics actually make sense. She also manages to get in the mystical in a good way. It's California rock from the late 70s and early 80s. This would fit snuggly on her greatest hits. The song is totally Bella Donna in my opinion. If they can turn the demo into this, I have hope for the album.

Stevie's aged voice makes this song more meaningful. That being said, her voice sounds strained, like she is barely getting there. The part where she sings "and my wine" is truly cringe-worthy.

If she can sing Italian Summer, then she shouldn't struggle with this. I know she had to record 16 tracks in two weeks and there was no time to rest her voice. It doesn't feel like they went back and redid the vocals after they laid down all the tracks. She is everywhere so maybe she never had enough time.Still, she could sing this song a lot better than this. The music is really good but it could of been a little sharper.

Still, this song is a gem. I don't understand why some people are calling it boring. Must not be listening to the words.

Totally agree 100%. Her vocals on In Your Dreams were strong, confident and showed a lot of range. I hope we get the same exuberant vocals on 24 Karat Gold, by and large.

[HoursAndHours]

Totally agree 100%. Her vocals on In Your Dreams were strong, confident and showed a lot of range. I hope we get the same exuberant vocals on 24 Karat Gold, by and large.

Tbh, I hope the entire rest of the album has vocals comparable to The Dealer, I think she sound light years better than anything else she's done recently. For one, I think she sounds like herself for the first time in forever. For two, it still doesn't sound thin or strained to me (actually, when I played it today, I thought she sounded relaxed and confident, certainly more nuanced and in control than anything on IYD, SYW, or TISL). It's so funny to me how we're all hearing completely different things.

[Christopher]

I can't believe how amateurishly done this so-called video is. Seriously, a 13 year old could have done this with the free version of Windows MovieMaker that comes with your PC (could have done it better, actually... or should I say "could a"). It's embarrassingly bad. Was this done in ten minutes by a grammatically-challenged intern right before the song's release?

Official lyric videos are routinely used & released on YouTube by many top selling artists before the official filmed artist video is ready and released. And yes, they are all generic and basic. It's the record companys & artists circumvent to hamper fan-made videos poping up all over YouTube. Anyone remember that as soon as "Secret Love" was available for instant download with every pre-order of IYD through WB all the way back on January, 13th 2011 that a fan YouTubed SL immediately under his YT subscriber name - userfriendlynewmodel.:cool:

Warners (& Stevie's team) actually were on the ball this time around, comparatively speaking against IYD pre-promotion. I was very impressed. They released the cover art, tracklist, pre-order info AND "official lyric video" of The Dealer - which also doubly serves cross-promotion as another direct link to 24 Karat's pre-order. This all, in addition to fully utilizing Stevie's FB account & setting up an official Instagram! Who would've thought we'd see all this cross-promotion synchronized so well! And, every new write-up of Stevie new single, yesterday & today, contained her "lyric video" link. This is the best advance promotion Stevie has had since TISL was released!:nod:

On top of all this, We will be getting the official filmed video released @in a couple of weeks - way in advance of 24 Karat Golds release date. Even TISL & IYD barely released their 1st single videos @ a week before their respective release dates.

[MoonSister75]

^^^I thought the lyric video was a very smart move - it makes so much more of an impact than just hearing the track, even though it is very simple. There are some fantastic lyrics in this song, as the Rolling Stone article picks up on, why not make them clear and obvious for everyone to see.


Tbh, I hope the entire rest of the album has vocals comparable to The Dealer, I think she sound light years better than anything else she's done recently. For one, I think she sounds like herself for the first time in forever. For two, it still doesn't sound thin or strained to me (actually, when I played it today, I thought she sounded relaxed and confident, certainly more nuanced and in control than anything on IYD, SYW, or TISL). It's so funny to me how we're all hearing completely different things.

That's what I'm hearing too :nod:

[HoursAndHours]

^^^I thought the lyric video was a very smart move - it makes so much more of an impact than just hearing the track, even though it is very simple. There are some fantastic lyrics in this song, as the Rolling Stone article picks up on, why not make them clear and obvious for everyone to see.




That's what I'm hearing too :nod:

I'm glad I'm not the only one that feels that way. For a while, I thought I was losing it with my inability to hear stuff. But I've listened to this on headphones, on speakers, and in my car, and it sounds great on all three systems, especially LOUD. :D

[Richard B]

I'm glad I'm not the only one that feels that way. For a while, I thought I was losing it with my inability to hear stuff. But I've listened to this on headphones, on speakers, and in my car, and it sounds great on all three systems, especially LOUD. :D

I'm in your camp! Love the song so much. I think she sounds wonderful and really commands the song. She is feeling it.

[KarmaContestant]

I thought she sounded relaxed and confident, certainly more nuanced and in control than anything on IYD, SYW, or TISL). It's so funny to me how we're all hearing completely different things.

Indeed it is sort of funny, because I would say that Moonlight, Italian Summer, Wide Sargasso Sea, New Orleans and You May Be The One have some of her best vocals since the 80's.

The Dealer is a good song and I like it and I'm happy with it, but I also feel she sings it sort of like the throw-away tune it has been all these years, and not at all like a song that she loves and is proud of and filled with emotions over. Just my ears, though.

[Bandon]

I think Stevie's album is going to get more media buzz than we've seen in a long time. This time planets have aligned in her favor. This album may be a surprise hit that hearkens back to her solo heydays circa 1981-1985.

I'm really happy that in these early twilight years of her career, Stevie is stepping it up, and getting the recognition she deserves. This album has a built-in, interesting history, and people are responding to it. It has the potential to be a pivotal and significant part of Stevie's legacy. Again, much thanks to Dave Stewart for motivating her and believing in her.

What's interesting is that Tom Petty's new album is number 1 on Billboard's top 200 this week, which is his first number 1 ever and his biggest selling album in years. Eric Clapton's new album is number 2, and his biggest seller in years according to Billboard. A week or two ago, "Weird Al" had his first number 1 on Billboard and the first number 1 comedic album in decades (that's pretty major for a dude who was popular in the 1980's). My point is that every so many years "nostalgia" becomes big whether on TV, in movies, or in music. This may be a current trend that could positively effect the sales of Stevie's and FM's new music. There may be surprises in store! :nod:

Billboard article: http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/6207083/tom-petty-1-album-first-billboard-200-hypnotic-eye-heartbreakers (http://http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/6207083/tom-petty-1-album-first-billboard-200-hypnotic-eye-heartbreakers)

[James89]

What's interesting is that Tom Petty's new album is number 1 on Billboard's top 200 this week, which is his first number 1 ever and his biggest selling album in years. Eric Clapton's new album is number 2, and his biggest seller in years according to Billboard. A week or two ago, "Weird Al" had his first number 1 on Billboard and the first number 1 comedic album in decades (that's pretty major for a dude who was popular in the 1980's). My point is that every so many years "nostalgia" becomes big whether on TV, in movies, or in music. This may be a current trend that could positively effect the sales of Stevie's and FM's new music. There may be surprises in store! :nod:

The Dealer is also getting really good press and it's still doing well on the charts considering it hasn't been played on radio yet to my knowledge. It's still within the top 10 of the iTunes Rock Songs chart currently sitting at #9.

[BombaySapphire3]

Tbh, I hope the entire rest of the album has vocals comparable to The Dealer, I think she sound light years better than anything else she's done recently. For one, I think she sounds like herself for the first time in forever. For two, it still doesn't sound thin or strained to me (actually, when I played it today, I thought she sounded relaxed and confident, certainly more nuanced and in control than anything on IYD, SYW, or TISL). It's so funny to me how we're all hearing completely different things.

I agree with this as well .In fact I really like her vocals on the 3 snippets we have heard also.Sure she may not sound as polished as some of the IYD tracks but so far the 24K songs sound more comfortable and "live" I don't even get the complaints about the "my wine" part it sounds fine to me:shrug:

[HoursAndHours]

Indeed it is sort of funny, because I would say that Moonlight, Italian Summer, Wide Sargasso Sea, New Orleans and You May Be The One have some of her best vocals since the 80's.

The Dealer is a good song and I like it and I'm happy with it, but I also feel she sings it sort of like the throw-away tune it has been all these years, and not at all like a song that she loves and is proud of and filled with emotions over. Just my ears, though.

Don't get me wrong, I like IYD quite a bit too. My feeling is that she's gotten better with each record. But there seems to be a marked return to Bella Donna quality in the context of style, control and power. Her range is lower and huskier, but I think it sounds great. Also yeah, that closing note on Italian Summer is f'ing stellar.

I agree with this as well .In fact I really like her vocals on the 3 snippets we have heard also.Sure she may not sound as polished as some of the IYD tracks but so far the 24K songs sound more comfortable and "live" I don't even get the complaints about the "my wine" part it sounds fine to me:shrug:

I'm happy that they sound different. It's the same artist and same producer, I was worried that it would sound like IYD part 2. If The Dealer is any sign though, it will have a totally different feel. :D

[jcfree]

Here is the link to the mix

https://www.dropbox.com/s/trk1603eipg45gh/The%20Dealer%20%28Feat.%20Stevie%20Nicks%20from%201980%29.mp3

Thanks for the link. Very cool remix, I LIKE IT!!

[welcomechris]

Thanks for the link. Very cool remix, I LIKE IT!!

thanks, it took a long time to do (like 2 days) so ENJOY! :]

[SameGlassTable]

As far as the vocals go ..
I'm happy .
I think the fact that she was pushed to lay down vocals for 18 songs in 2 weeks means we are getting a more "raw " Stevie (warts and all )
Take a song like Gypsy or Sara ..I would be willing to bet those vocals took months to capture

What we have here is fun bare bones production
A sound that many of us have long waited for .
I'm sure her new Fleetwood Mac songs will be super glossy
And if I'm going to predict further I'm convinced the songs will be brand new,
She's not going to come to that party with any more vault songs.

[loverly13]

I'm in your camp! Love the song so much. I think she sounds wonderful and really commands the song. She is feeling it.

I love, love, love it. I think it sounds close enough to the Bella Donna takes, to my ears, at least. I agree - I've been blasting it on speakers and headphones and it sounds great. I don't know, maybe I'm just excited for everything, but I can't help but cheesily dance and sing along. It's a great tune.

[michelej1]

c'mon, people. really, why does anyone here care what any one other person thinks? why should that impact your liking or not liking the song? who cares. If you like and think it's the greatest thing ever, good for you! If you think it's boring and are not impressed, good for you! Really, if your enjoyment (or non enjoyment) of a song is that impacted by what anyone else says or thinks, your problems far transcend this forum.


Ha.

And people aren't going to continue to post on here and call other people names because they have negative opinions of The Dealer or any other song. Psychoanalyze the band members, not each other. If the criticism spoils your enjoyment of FM or its members, you should go somewhere where they aren't criticized and people are just happy and grateful to have their music in their lives. This is not that place.

Michele

[SameGlassTable]

I know I'm new here ..
But I must say this .

I think some people are really heavy handed when it comes to tolerating peoples
Negative reaction to a song .


We can love stevie and hate a song .

"Cheaper than Free" .. Anyone ?

[BlueLight]

I know I'm new here ..
But I must say this .

I think some people are really heavy handed when it comes to tolerating peoples
Negative reaction to a song .


We can love stevie and hate a song .

"Cheaper than Free" .. Anyone ?

Come on now - don't ruin a discussion about a great song like the Dealer by bringing up that disaster of a song! :laugh:

[SameGlassTable]

Come on now - don't ruin a discussion about a great song like the Dealer by bringing up that disaster of a song! :laugh:

Lol
For the record I personally love the song (the dealer not cheaper then free )

[bombaysaffires]

Ha.

And people aren't going to continue to post on here and call other people names because they have negative opinions of The Dealer or any other song. Psychoanalyze the band members, not each other. If the criticism spoils your enjoyment of FM or its members, you should go somewhere where they aren't criticized and people are just happy and grateful to have their music in their lives. This is not that place.

Michele

was this directed at me? If so, I think you misinterpreted my post. I was definitely not personally upset about anyone's comments. I just have to shake my head when people get so wrapped up in someone else's opinion, but then it's not really anything new here, is it? I thought my last line spelled it out

Like it, don't like it…that's what the world is about. Why get into flame wars over it?? Oh wait, this is The Ledge.

Or maybe you were just saying the same thing I was, only differently.

So hard to tell sometimes… but in any case, my opinion of the song doesn't change. :laugh:

[michelej1]

Or maybe you were just saying the same thing I was, only differently.



No, I was agreeing with you and thought your point was humorously worded.

Michele

[bombaysaffires]

No, I was agreeing with you and thought your point was humorously worded.

Michele

yeah well really how DARE you! :laugh:

[HoursAndHours]

Like it, don't like it…that's what the world is about. Why get into flame wars over it?? Oh wait, this is The Ledge. <facepalm>;)

I'm mostly just amazed by how differently people are interpreting certain sections to be thin or confident, nasal or relaxed, etc. It's like we're hearing completely different things, and that's fascinating to me.

What's interesting is that Tom Petty's new album is number 1 on Billboard's top 200 this week, which is his first number 1 ever and his biggest selling album in years.

I'm really happy about that too. That album is great, I'm so in love with American Dream Plan B

[Macfanforever]

I know I'm new here ..
But I must say this .

I think some people are really heavy handed when it comes to tolerating peoples
Negative reaction to a song .


We can love stevie and hate a song .

"Cheaper than Free" .. Anyone ?

I love "Cheaper Then Free" But I could do without Dave Grohl's guitars in "You Can't Fix This". Stevie and the lyrics were great in "You Can't Fix This" but the guitars drowned out her voice.

[Phil]

I'm still reeling from the fact that the album mixing was only completed on July 12 and yet we got to hear/purchase "The Dealer" on August 4 - that blows my mind!

[HoursAndHours]

I'm still reeling from the fact that the album mixing was only completed on July 12 and yet we got to hear/purchase "The Dealer" on August 4 - that blows my mind!

Yeah, and proof that it's still possible to turn out an album every year or two if you want to. ;)

[Jondalar]

this is the only bad review I saw

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl

Stevie Nicks' new single isn't so hot: Was it better off a bootleg?

Legendary songbird Stevie Nicks released her new single, "The Dealer," today. The track is the lead single off her upcoming album, 24 Karat Gold, and with it comes a lyric video complete with a soft-focus old photo of the singer. The song was previously recorded in 1979, while Fleetwood Mac was working on their album, Tusk. "The Dealer" didn't make the cut for that album, but a leaked demo has occasionally popped up among fans. We'd love to say Stevie Nicks can do no wrong in our eyes, but in the case of "The Dealer," we think some things might have been better left in the '70s.

Nicks was about 34 when the song was originally recorded and it seems as if she still had a bit of maturing to do with her songwriting. The concept is simple enough: Nicks is coming to terms with past transgressions and unrequited love. Heavy stuff, sure. However, the lyricism is a little immature. We can appreciate that it was written when she was considerably younger, but by mid-30 and well into her career, we expect more. With lines like, "But, you'll just almost stay here, I'll just almost hold you," the lyrics, at some points, seem more like Nicks was grasping for syllables more than good song content.

Furthermore, there's not much musical growth. In a way, it makes sense that Nicks' music would still sound so strikingly similar to everything she's released in the past. Again, this song was written long ago, as are all the other songs on the album. However, she could have used this chance to reboot them with slightly more modern music. Instead, the song still sounds exactly like it came from 1979 — you know, when it was a demo that didn't make the cut for Tusk. This, of course, will appeal to the vast majority of her longtime fans. However, it leaves us underwhelmed.

[MoonSister75]

^^^ Oh well. You can't win them all! I love the lyrics. Has anyone posted the good reviews anywhere? I've only read the Rolling Stone review.

[Jondalar]

^^^ Oh well. You can't win them all! I love the lyrics. Has anyone posted the good reviews anywhere? I've only read the Rolling Stone review.

yes, there are a lot of them.

Go to http://www.fleetwoodmacnews.com

[MoonSister75]

yes, there are a lot of them.

Go to http://www.fleetwoodmacnews.com

Great thanks - I didn't think to check there. I just had a quick look through and they do seem overall very positive. :)

[James89]

The Dealer lyric video has already received over 150,000 views on youtube which is already a quarter of the Secret Love video which I think is fantastic considering its lack of radio play.

[wheart]

So as is often the case with some of Stevie's songs, I've been listening to The Dealer repeatedly and I'm really loving it now! I think I just had to give the song a chance, as I didn't like the demo initially and never really bothered with it again. It IS a catchy little song but what makes it for me is the organic and earthy sound of the production, especially the organ part (Hammond, B3??). Anyway, it is worlds away in terms of production from IYD and while I love IYD, this is definitely a step back in time for Stevie as far as sound goes. And I'm starting to love her vocal too. It sounds far more laid back and unrehearsed than many of her recent songs. The Dealer is pulling me in, and I love it! :]

[BlueDenimLamp]

The Dealer lyric video has already received over 150,000 views on youtube which is already a quarter of the Secret Love video which I think is fantastic considering its lack of radio play.

It's now up to 166,028.:nod:

[AnthonyMI]

So as is often the case with some of Stevie's songs, I've been listening to The Dealer repeatedly and I'm really loving it now! I think I just had to give the song a chance, as I didn't like the demo initially and never really bothered with it again. It IS a catchy little song but what makes it for me is the organic and earthy sound of the production, especially the organ part (Hammond, B3??). Anyway, it is worlds away in terms of production from IYD and while I love IYD, this is definitely a step back in time for Stevie as far as sound goes. And I'm starting to love her vocal too. It sounds far more laid back and unrehearsed than many of her recent songs. The Dealer is pulling me in, and I love it! :]

I think that the reason the vocal sounds jarring for some people is that she had so little time to make this album. ON IYD I think they had months to do vocals. I bet with 24KG they used whatever happened in Nashville and then the two other sessions we heard about in LA and then back in Nashville again. If Stevie's voice was horse or sore or strained they just had to deal with it, move on, and get it done. There was no time to say "well we will try again in a month". This album will have a MUCH more RAW sound than IYD did. I know some people did not like IYD just for that very reason, "overproduced" was the biggest complaint from the Complainers. Well, they go their wish! Here is a Stevie Album that is RAW, ORGANIC and 100% non-overproduced. It was almost all LIVE in the studio with sparingly done overdubs. Bella Donna was done much the same way, live music with live vocals, but then they worked on the vocals for MONTHS with overdubs. After 32 years we have come full circle with the instrumentation, but only this time less time was spent on the vocals. I am ok with this because this album will prove that you do not need to overthink an album.

NOW... I hope that Fleetwood Mac sees how good LIVE and ORGANIC sounds so that the new FM album has that sound from The White Album through Mirage.

[gssmith]

Her voice sounds great to me. But I don't think she would have had a hard time physically by recording in only two weeks. She is a live singer that performs night after night. I give her more credit.

[KarmaContestant]

this is the only bad review I saw

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl

Stevie Nicks' new single isn't so hot: Was it better off a bootleg?



Yes, it was better off as a bootleg.

A lot of people here have said that All The Beautiful Worlds is a favorite, and that the 'demo' is pretty much done, and there seems to be some concern that the new version won't hold up to the original. Well, I feel the same way about The Dealer.

While I'm pleased that it's included on 24 Karat Gold, personally the Bella Donna version, totally completed, was perfect and left absolutely no room for improvement.

Obviously, not everyone agrees. Much like Julia, however, The Dealer that was excluded from Bella Donna is as good as it ever was, to me.

But what is, is what is, and Stevie re-recorded The Dealer. It's all good. I can still listen to the older versions anytime I please, and the fact is, I'll probably play 24 Karat Gold a thousand times and love The Dealer every time I hear it.

[sodascouts]

Plus, as much as we hardcores enjoy listening to the demos, you must remember that the vast majority of fans have never heard these songs, and never would hear them if they weren't released. I think it's wonderful that she's giving these songs a chance to be heard all over the world, not just by a relatively small group of people.

Even if "The Dealer" were "perfect" as it was (which is debatable), how many people would ever get to hear that "perfect" version? Better to release a version that's a bit less perfect but that can be enjoyed by all than to relegate a quality song to obscurity.

[KarmaContestant]

Plus, as much as we hardcores enjoy listening to the demos, you must remember that the vast majority of fans have never heard these song, and never would hear them if they weren't released. I think it's wonderful that she's giving these songs a chance to be heard all over the world, not just by a relatively small group of people.

Even if "The Dealer" was "perfect" as it was (which is debatable), how many people would ever get to hear that "perfect" version? Better to release a version that's a bit less perfect but that can be enjoyed by all than to relegate a quality song to obscurity.

Great point, Nancy. Sometimes it's easy to forget that not everyone else has been playing Stevie outtakes on repeat. :laugh:

[Jondalar]

Yes, it was better off as a bootleg.

A lot of people here have said that All The Beautiful Worlds is a favorite, and that the 'demo' is pretty much done, and there seems to be some concern that the new version won't hold up to the original. Well, I feel the same way about The Dealer.

While I'm pleased that it's included on 24 Karat Gold, personally the Bella Donna version, totally completed, was perfect and left absolutely no room for improvement.

Obviously, not everyone agrees. Much like Julia, however, The Dealer that was excluded from Bella Donna is as good as it ever was, to me.

But what is, is what is, and Stevie re-recorded The Dealer. It's all good. I can still listen to the older versions anytime I please, and the fact is, I'll probably play 24 Karat Gold a thousand times and love The Dealer every time I hear it.

I'm going to disagree with you. That demo fealt small. This is much better. I feel this is the best single she has released since the 1980s. Great lyrics and sounds complete. The song is addictive. Really good for a 66 year old and done in record time.
If people like the demo, well they can always go listen to the demos.

[Johnny Stew]

Plus, as much as we hardcores enjoy listening to the demos, you must remember that the vast majority of fans have never heard these songs, and never would hear them if they weren't released. I think it's wonderful that she's giving these songs a chance to be heard all over the world, not just by a relatively small group of people.

This is the reason I was so disappointed by the lack of "Julia." From the moment I first heard it in 2001, I was crazy about it -- and I've wanted every Stevie fan to hear it. And while, for my tastes, Stevie could never improve upon Take 5, I still want it to be re-recorded and released out into the world. It's just too good of a song, IMO, to languish in the vault.

So, yes, there may be a few moments throughout the album where we think, "Oh, I preferred the way she sang that originally," or "the arrangement was so much stronger on the 1982 outtake," but it's going to be so fantastic to finally have these definitive versions.

Meanwhile, regarding "The Dealer," I've never been able to find one particular take of that song that I thought was perfect. I enjoy all of them, don't get me wrong -- but each of them just fell slightly short for me in some way or another. This new version "feels" just right. Vocally, instrumentally, and production-wise. I'm thrilled with it. And for those who aren't, I hope there are plenty of other songs on the album that they will be thrilled with.

[HoursAndHours]

I'm thrilled with it. And for those who aren't, I hope there are plenty of other songs on the album that they will be thrilled with.

^^^This. :D

[michelej1]

August 5, 2014, By Eliza Berman, Slate

http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2014/08/05/stevie_nicks_the_dealer_a_new_single_from_forthcoming_album_24_karat_gold.html

Stevie Nicks Channels the 1970s in Her New Single, “The Dealer”



I get a little nervous when an artist whose older work I favor comes out with a new album. But I take heart in the fact that most of the songs on Stevie Nicks’ forthcoming album, 24 Karat Gold: Songs From The Vault, were written between 1969 and 1987, with a couple penned in the mid-’90s. And with “The Dealer” she delivers a track that would have been at home on 1983’s Wild Heart or even Fleetwood Mac’s Rumours (1977).*


Musically speaking, “The Dealer” is something like a time capsule that Nicks could have planted decades ago—but the lyrics seem to come from a wiser woman taking stock and looking back: “It was my fault, my move, and my wine/ I see the sun now, and it still shines.” Her voice has a gravelly quality now that matches the sentiment.


I get a little nervous when an artist whose older work I favor comes out with a new album. But I take heart in the fact that most of the songs on Stevie Nicks’ forthcoming album, 24 Karat Gold: Songs From The Vault, were written between 1969 and 1987, with a couple penned in the mid-’90s. And with “The Dealer” she delivers a track that would have been at home on 1983’s Wild Heart or even Fleetwood Mac’s Rumours (1977).*


Musically speaking, “The Dealer” is something like a time capsule that Nicks could have planted decades ago—but the lyrics seem to come from a wiser woman taking stock and looking back: “It was my fault, my move, and my wine/ I see the sun now, and it still shines.” Her voice has a gravelly quality now that matches the sentiment.

[michelej1]

Noisy Vice, August 5, 2014

http://noisey.vice.com/blog/stevie-nicks-the-dealer-stream

America is a country constantly in flux, and American music is an ever-shifting behemoth, always looking for the next drop. But amid the change, there are certain things that remain timeless: liberty, love, a certain hustle, a sense of destiny, and, perhaps most of all, the golden voice and songwriting talents of Stevie Nicks, American hero.

Right now, it's Tuesday afternoon in 2014, but it might as well be a sun-glazed day in the late 70s, and we might as well be riding around in cars that take too much gas in a world that looks like a Valencia filter. Stevie Nicks just released a new song, "The Dealer," on which she quite literally escapes time. It's off her new album, 24 Karat Gold: Songs From The Vault, which is out October 9 and of which Stevie Nicks, via her website, says: "Each song is a love story... They represent my life, the secrets, the broken hearts. These songs are the memories - the 24 karat gold rings in the blue box. These songs are for you."

Naturally, the song, like the polaroid in its accompanying lyric video, comes across like so many unearthed memories, and your tears might come spilling out like so many decades of pent-up sadness. "I was the mistress of my fate," Stevie croons sadly, knowingly, in the way that only Stevie Nicks can croon about heartbreak: "If I'd a looked a little ahead/I'd a run away." "I'll be the passion/You be the play," she adds later, poetically. "I'll just almost hold you/You'll just almost stay here." Yeah, it's beautiful. Yeah, we might as well be standing in front of a corner store that looks like a movie set listening to this float toward us as it plays out of our car's AM radio. Yeah, we love Stevie Nicks.


There's a New Stevie Nicks Song Called "The Dealer" and It Will Make You Feel Like It's 1979

Holy **** By Eric Sundermann and Kyle Kramer

[James89]

The Dealer lyric video has already received over 150,000 views on youtube which is already a quarter of the Secret Love video which I think is fantastic considering its lack of radio play.

It's now received over 200,000 views. That's a third of the views that Secret Love has had and that had a lot of radio play and a proper music video. Stevie appears to be more popular than ever. :nod:

[MoonSister75]

It's now received over 200,000 views. That's a third of the views that Secret Love has had and that had a lot of radio play and a proper music video. Stevie appears to be more popular than ever. :nod:

That's great news. Everyone who knows something about Stevie Nicks is intrigued by this "songs from the vault" concept, probably more than they were about IYD. And it's a clever bit of marketing - simple lyric video with Stevie's handwriting and an old polaroid. I think people are appreciating the song much more with this video, as there is an immediate focus on the lyrics . How many Stevie lyric fan video's are out there, but this one is from Stevie herself (well her marketing people) :cool:

[James89]

The song has also received its first radio play this morning on BBC Radio 2 with a nice introduction with the DJ giving the details of the album. The Radio 2 playlist will be updated on Saturday and The Dealer will almost certainly show up on there.

[Richard B]

That's great news. Everyone who knows something about Stevie Nicks is intrigued by this "songs from the vault" concept, probably more than they were about IYD. And it's a clever bit of marketing - simple lyric video with Stevie's handwriting and an old polaroid. I think people are appreciating the song much more with this video, as there is an immediate focus on the lyrics . How many Stevie lyric fan video's are out there, but this one is from Stevie herself (well her marketing people) :cool:

Very well put. I could't agree more.

[chiffon head]

I have always loved this song ( cassette versions are worn out) and I'm so looking forward to this CD. So grateful to have this stuff put out there...it's so obvious she has done this for us fans. Love it!

[HoursAndHours]

I have always loved this song ( cassette versions are worn out) and I'm so looking forward to this CD. So grateful to have this stuff put out there...it's so obvious she has done this for us fans. Love it!

I feel the same way. We're pretty lucky as fans - especially this year.

[StreetAngel86]

Even if "The Dealer" were "perfect" as it was (which is debatable), how many people would ever get to hear that "perfect" version? Better to release a version that's a bit less perfect but that can be enjoyed by all than to relegate a quality song to obscurity.

PREACH!!!
+ i doubt the general world at large is as picky and set in their ways (pref of demo x over demo y) as all the Ledgies on this board :laugh:



Obviously, not everyone agrees. Much like Julia, however, The Dealer that was excluded from Bella Donna is as good as it ever was, to me.

gotta say, i never liked Julia. so no loss there :sorry:
the dealer from Tusk is better. the 24K version seems to be a mash of both the BD and Tusk version. each has good points but neither is perfect.

[Jondalar]

I wonder if there are different edits and mixes floating about. Possible we will get an extended version? Radio edits?

[Phil]

Whilst I'm entirely respectful of differing opinions, I gotta say I can't get over the nit-picking regarding Stevie's vocal on "The Dealer". People seem to be forgetting that the album was recorded in just a few weeks and that it would seem the emphasis was on capturing an organic, essentially live sound. For so many years, fans have complained about Stevie being over-produced (even as recently as the In Your Dreams album) and now it seems we're getting an unadorned recording that is not steeped in gloss and heavy-handedness.
From my perspective, Stevie's vocal on the 2014 version of "The Dealer" is soulful and heart-felt - qualities we should be embracing. I'm not seeking perfection, but I do want something authentic and I think she's delivered on this occasion.
I think the team of Stevie, Dave and Waddy is a superb one. I have high hopes for many of the songs on this upcoming album.

[HoursAndHours]

I have high hopes for many of the songs on this upcoming album.

Me too. My excitement level is cranked up to 11, lol.

[DauphineMarie]

The song has also received its first radio play this morning on BBC Radio 2 with a nice introduction with the DJ giving the details of the album. The Radio 2 playlist will be updated on Saturday and The Dealer will almost certainly show up on there.

I have been listening for a few days now, and when I heard it I almost passed out lol! :laugh:

[Jondalar]

I have been listening for a few days now, and when I heard it I almost passed out lol! :laugh:

It could of been produced a little better and she could of given a better vocal, however, this is her best single since the 80s. I can't stop listening to it. It feels like a Stevie Classic and its a vert meaningful song. Love the lyrics. Never thought I would get classic Stevie Nicks back. Very happy.

[DauphineMarie]

It could of been produced a little better and she could of given a better vocal, however, this is her best single since the 80s. I can't stop listening to it. It feels like a Stevie Classic and its a vert meaningful song. Love the lyrics. Never thought I would get classic Stevie Nicks back. Very happy.

Yes! When I was listening, I almost felt like it was the Classic Rock channel. I agree with the production, because someone mentioned the mixing, and on the radio (James tell me if you agree) the girls' voices were slightly diminished. However that could be to my sub-par car speakers! :p

[PenguinHead]

Whilst I'm entirely respectful of differing opinions, I gotta say I can't get over the nit-picking regarding Stevie's vocal on "The Dealer". People seem to be forgetting that the album was recorded in just a few weeks and that it would seem the emphasis was on capturing an organic, essentially live sound. For so many years, fans have complained about Stevie being over-produced (even as recently as the In Your Dreams album) and now it seems we're getting an unadorned recording that is not steeped in gloss and heavy-handedness.
From my perspective, Stevie's vocal on the 2014 version of "The Dealer" is soulful and heart-felt - qualities we should be embracing. I'm not seeking perfection, but I do want something authentic and I think she's delivered on this occasion.
I think the team of Stevie, Dave and Waddy is a superb one. I have high hopes for many of the songs on this upcoming album.

I couldn't have said it any better. I tried to articulate these sentiments on another post, but my approach wasn't as tactful. I was slapped silly. Oops!

[DauphineMarie]

For a long time, I had a hard time listening to anything post Street Angel, because I refused to let go of "classic Stevie." I guess if I didn't listen to her current voice, it would magically go back to how it was. But it won't, and I am happy for that. This is really the first song that I have listened to from 21st-century-Stevie on repeat, because to me it has the beautiful imperfections that I appreciate about the older demos. So though the song is not perfect vocally, that is what gives it the depth and magic of a Stevie song. For me, that is what music is about, to feel the music, not so much nit-pick it to the point you can't enjoy it.

But that's just my opinion. :cool:

[HoursAndHours]

For a long time, I had a hard time listening to anything post Street Angel, because I refused to let go of "classic Stevie." I guess if I didn't listen to her current voice, it would magically go back to how it was. But it won't, and I am happy for that. This is really the first song that I have listened to from 21st-century-Stevie on repeat, because to me it has the beautiful imperfections that I appreciate about the older demos. So though the song is not perfect vocally, that is what gives it the depth and magic of a Stevie song. For me, that is what music is about, to feel the music, not so much nit-pick it to the point you can't enjoy it.

But that's just my opinion. :cool:

It's reasonable. :laugh: I have listened to this song a lot (about 100 times or so). I listened to Secret Love a lot too, but not anywhere nearly as much as this.

[Jondalar]

It's reasonable. :laugh: I have listened to this song s lot (about 100 times or so). I listened to Secret Love a lot too, but not anywhere nearly as much as this.

It's been on repeat for two days. I'm addicted to it. Love the words and that classic Bella Donna feel.

[DauphineMarie]

It's been on repeat for two days. I'm addicted to it. Love the words and that classic Bella Donna feel.

Lol same here. :D To me it sounds like something that could be very popular.

[BombaySapphire3]

For a long time, I had a hard time listening to anything post Street Angel, because I refused to let go of "classic Stevie." I guess if I didn't listen to her current voice, it would magically go back to how it was. But it won't, and I am happy for that. This is really the first song that I have listened to from 21st-century-Stevie on repeat, because to me it has the beautiful imperfections that I appreciate about the older demos. So though the song is not perfect vocally, that is what gives it the depth and magic of a Stevie song. For me, that is what music is about, to feel the music, not so much nit-pick it to the point you can't enjoy it.

But that's just my opinion. :cool:

Very nice post.I posted in the grade The Dealer thread that I was very glad that I have no musical talent or knowledge of the recording process if it meant dissecting every imperfection of the song so that I could not enjoy it..I can't stop listening to it so ignorance must really be bliss:laugh:

[HoursAndHours]

Lol same here. :D To me it sounds like something that could be very popular.

Agreed, especially with that gentler production and slick album artwork. I'm excited for the video, too. :]

[secondhandchain]

Don't get too excited guys. This song will not be hugely popular. It's a good song but not a hit by today's standards. Just not going to happen. The album will debut in the top ten, stay there a few weeks and then drop off. Same when the FM album comes out.

[secondhandchain]

Does anybody know if Christine is playing keys on this?

[HoursAndHours]

Don't get too excited guys. This song will not be hugely popular. It's a good song but not a hit by today's standards. Just not going to happen. The album will debut in the top ten, stay there a few weeks and then drop off. Same when the FM album comes out.

Fatalist. :laugh:

[DauphineMarie]

Fatalist. :laugh:

lol SHOT THROUGH THE HEART.

A girl can dream :]

[MoonSister75]

The song has also received its first radio play this morning on BBC Radio 2 with a nice introduction with the DJ giving the details of the album. The Radio 2 playlist will be updated on Saturday and The Dealer will almost certainly show up on there.

Great, thanks. They have played it already :blob2: I just found it on iplayer but can't get it to work at the moment. I will persevere
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04c048x

I have been listening for a few days now, and when I heard it I almost passed out lol! :laugh:

I think I would have almost fainted too, or at least been hyperventilating :] I got overexcited last time I heard Rooms on Fire on Radio 2 :o

[MoonSister75]

^^^ :blob2::blob2: I just listened to it! It sounds great! and yes it was a good introduction. For anyone who can get iplayer it's at 1hr 43mins. :D

[wheart]

Don't get too excited guys. This song will not be hugely popular. It's a good song but not a hit by today's standards. Just not going to happen. The album will debut in the top ten, stay there a few weeks and then drop off. Same when the FM album comes out.

I don't listen to the radio but I would hope that at least the classic rock stations (if there are any of those left) and Triple A would embrace this song. I think that's the best we can hope for. Top 40 stations and the like won't even consider playing it.

[AnthonyMI]

Another thing...

We are so used to listing to this song with her 1981 voice. Today I was listening to a mix of songs on my iPhone and Street Angel's Blue Denim came on, THEN The Dealer. They blended well together, and The Dealer even sounded better to me and more ALIVE than Blue Denim.

If you listen, Stevie's voice has not changed ALL that much from The Other Side of the Mirror, and Street Angel and Timespace era. There was a point in the late 90's when she stopped smoking and could still hit higher notes when it was "better", but other than some loss of her upper notes she still sounds MOSTLY the same as she has since the late 90's.

It is only when doing a direct comparison between 1981 Stevie The Dealer and 2014 The Dealer that people are having trouble. If we had NEVER heard the demos of The Dealer, I am sure the Grumpycat Ledgies would be all "OMG I LOVE THIS SONG! IT IS SO HAPPY BOUNCY AND CLASsic STEVIE".

You can try the same thing. Listen to the Accapela version of Rooms on Fire from Youtube... and then listen to 2014 The Dealer. Despite a little loss of range her voice is basically the same .

[jkmaletic]

A friend at work (who is a casual fan) has been playing it every day. Every time I go over to his desk it's on. I asked him about it and he aaid, "I LOVE it - it's a great song!" :)

[Jondalar]

Are we sure that the video Stevie filmed is for the Dealer?

[saradorna]

Another thing...

We are so used to listing to this song with her 1981 voice. Today I was listening to a mix of songs on my iPhone and Street Angel's Blue Denim came on, THEN The Dealer. They blended well together, and The Dealer even sounded better to me and more ALIVE than Blue Denim.

If you listen, Stevie's voice has not changed ALL that much from The Other Side of the Mirror, and Street Angel and Timespace era. There was a point in the late 90's when she stopped smoking and could still hit higher notes when it was "better", but other than some loss of her upper notes she still sounds MOSTLY the same as she has since the late 90's.

It is only when doing a direct comparison between 1981 Stevie The Dealer and 2014 The Dealer that people are having trouble. If we had NEVER heard the demos of The Dealer, I am sure the Grumpycat Ledgies would be all "OMG I LOVE THIS SONG! IT IS SO HAPPY BOUNCY AND CLASsic STEVIE".

You can try the same thing. Listen to the Accapela version of Rooms on Fire from Youtube... and then listen to 2014 The Dealer. Despite a little loss of range her voice is basically the same .

I think you posted here: http://www.fleetwoodmac.net/ledge/showthread.php?t=54032 . If you get here you'll hear the mix both the demo and the 2014 version. Its great, I'm gonna be playing this version now cause it has the best of both version. :nod:

[AliceLover]

I'm sad.

I'm sad because I do not like this song. However, I was never a huge fan of the demo and couldn't understand why everyone loved it so much. I WANT to like the song, but it just seems like a mediocre tune to me. It's a bummer because I LOVED Secret Love when it out (and still do). I played it over and over for months. I don't know, but this song just doesn't do it for me.

[AliceLover]

This is the reason I was so disappointed by the lack of "Julia." From the moment I first heard it in 2001, I was crazy about it -- and I've wanted every Stevie fan to hear it. And while, for my tastes, Stevie could never improve upon Take 5, I still want it to be re-recorded and released out into the world. It's just too good of a song, IMO, to languish in the vault.

.

I was never one for Stevie's demos. I hae only listened to a handful, so this album is particularly exciting to me because I have never heard most of these songs.

I have however listened to Julia and it is just INFECTIOUS. It's near perfect. That simple piano intro, with the build up of instruments and vocals. I love the version with the rocking ending...But I guess we're lucky to have it. I agree though that every Stevie fan needs to hear this song!

[michelej1]

DIY Magazine


Stevie Nicks - The Dealer August 8, 2014

http://diymag.com/2014/08/08/tracks-merchandise-ben-howard-more


There are few more recognisable voices in rock and pop than that of iconic Fleetwood Mac singer Stevie Nicks. The influence of Fleetwood Mac is perhaps stronger than ever in 2014 with acts like Haim in thrall to the bands timeless charms. It’s a perfect time, then, for the singer to re-emerge with a new song that instantly recalls Nicks and the band’s golden age. ‘The Dealer’s’ sense of familiarity shouldn’t be such a surprise as the song is a contemporary recording of a track demo’d for Fleetwood Mac’s 1979 LP ‘Tusk’, what makes it special though is the extra emotion in her voice; it’s an older, wiser and reflective Nicks as she looks back on her past with a feeling of misty eyed catharsis. Added to the pristine piano and organ swing of wide eyed Californian rock dreams it makes for a supremely gorgeous reminder of the talents of an unequivocally legendary performer. (Martyn Young)

[BlueLight]

All of these posts make me feel much better, because I've listened to this song many more times than I care to admit. I love it, just love it. In fact, I prefer it over the demos. Stevie's vocal is great - strong, confident, and I don't find it to be thin at all. It is raw, however, and I like that. Just listen to the raw vocals from any period since the late '80s, and her voice has changed very little - and if anything has improved.

The production is great - although as others have said, I would prefer for the girls to be a bit more prominent in the mix. And I wouldn't have minded her ending with "..I feel the sun now, and it still shines."

[sue]

Just played The Dealer a couple of times to my husband,( who likes Fleetwood Mac a lot , but not particularly a Stevie fan)

"mmmm" says he." That woman should make a country music LP"
I agree what do others think?

[Dex]

Whenever I play a modern-Stevie song, people's reaction to it is consistently that her voice sounds "country". I find it interesting. I mean, it's a perfectly fine thing to sound like a country singer, I've just never been able to pinpoint why. But people say it quite a lot.

Personally, if Stevie wanted to go in that direction a little further, I'd be completely on board. It'd work beautifully.

[Johnny Stew]

Personally, if Stevie wanted to go in that direction a little further, I'd be completely on board. It'd work beautifully.

I'm not a huge country fan, but I agree that going in that direction a bit could work really for Stevie. It would not be a huge stylistic departure, yet it would be something refreshing. It also wouldn't seem forced or like she's following a trend, since Stevie's had a country-tinge to many of her songs since the very beginning of her career.

[HoursAndHours]

I'm not a huge country fan, but I agree that going in that direction a bit could work really for Stevie. It would not be a huge stylistic departure, yet it would be something refreshing. It also wouldn't seem forced or like she's following a trend, since Stevie's had a country-tinge to many of her songs since the very beginning of her career.

That single with Lady Antebellum is about as country as I care for her to get. I don't mind her doing country-tinged work, but I like her as rock & pop.

I do not need an entire album of Too Far From Texas. :shrug: