24 KG Tracklist ~ what we know versus what we don't know.

[sorcerer999]

I think it would be interesting to write down and discuss each track from now on up until we get a complete and official track listing. We can update the list of 16 tracks as we go. I'm going to exclude the two obviously fake track lists that were put up on her Wiki page last week and focus on A.) What we know to be true (through Dave's snippits, videos, what have you) which I will mark with an (*) ...and B.) What some media insiders have "confirmed" these past two days. Like I said, if something turns out to be false, we can go back and take it off the list. I'm also going to exclude our song speculations of Stevie's press release where she gives the years 1969, 1987, 1995 and 1996. Yes, 87 might be Joan Of Arc and 1995 might be Space Needle but let's just let those speculations be what they are. What do you guys think? Does this sound like a fun idea?

24 Karat Gold ~ Songs From The Vault

1. 24 Karat Gold (*)
2. Starshine (*)
3. The Dealer (confirmed by Miami Herald writer Howard Cohen and by Ledge member FM77.)
4. Watch Devil (also confirmed by Howard Cohen.)
5. I Don't Care (title not "official" just yet.)
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.
15.
16.

Am I missing anything? Like I said, we'll go back and add to the list or take some off if rumours and "confirmations" end up being false. I'm guessing that when we get snippits from Stevie's instagram at the beginning of next month, then that will really get the ball rolling. I wonder how many sneak peaks we'll get before the album is released.

[BombaySapphire3]

As you mentioned the 1994 and '95 songs are thought to be Space Needle and Have no Heart.I also really hope Moe Sizlack is a credible source.

[Jondalar]

The Dealer and Watch Devil are confirmed? Never heard that.

[BombaySapphire3]

The Dealer and Watch Devil are confirmed? Never heard that.

Yeah ..FM77 also confirmed that The Dealer is probably the lead track on the album.

[Jondalar]

Yeah ..FM77 also confirmed that The Dealer is probably the lead track on the album.

We'll Did FM like the songs? Wasn't FM throwing out hints for In Your Dreams?

[BombaySapphire3]

We'll Did FM like the songs? Wasn't FM throwing out hints for In Your Dreams?

FM hasn't commented on the quality of the songs yet.Yeah FM did hear IYD months before it was released.

[Jondalar]

FM hasn't commented on the quality of the songs yet.Yeah FM did hear IYD months before it was released.

I like the Dealer. It has a solid classic rock feel to it and it feels like a opening track.

[Tarot]

Forest of the black roses -should- be on this .. but :shrug:

[Jondalar]

Forest of the black roses -should- be on this .. but :shrug:

The Rhiannon songs is really what I'm waiting for and I have waited a very long time.

[StevieNicksfann]

Well my most absolute favorite demo was the Bella Donna version of The Dealer so I am very happy to know it is on this album. I also liked the R&B mix to 24 Karat Gold but I doubt it'll be this arrangement on the album. I also like Julia so am also glad to see that on there.

[BombaySapphire3]

Forest of the black roses -should- be on this .. but :shrug:

Yeah would be nice but I don't have a good feeling about any of the Rhiannon songs making the cut now as the track list starts to fill.I threw out the idea in another thread that it would be cool IMO if Stevie did one long 3 part song suite incorporating all 3 Rhiannon songs but I really don't think that is her style.

[BombaySapphire3]

. I also like Julia so am also glad to see that on there.

Julia has not been completely verified by a totally credible source yet.I am praying that it is on there though,

[Jondalar]

Yeah would be nice but I don't have a good feeling about any of the Rhiannon songs making the cut now as the track list starts to fill.I threw out the idea in another thread that it would be cool IMO if Stevie did one long 3 part song suite incorporating all 3 Rhiannon songs but I really don't think that is her style.

When Dave was making In Your Dreams I twittered him a bunch of times about Three Birds of Rhiannon. Hoping that he said something to Stevie.

[BlueLight]

I like the Dealer. It has a solid classic rock feel to it and it feels like a opening track.

It's a perfect opening track. Which makes me wish the album were called Mistress of My Fate.

[sorcerer999]

Julia has not been completely verified by a totally credible source yet.I am praying that it is on there though,

Yeah. I'm praying that it's on there as well. The same guy also said "Blue Water" is on there as well and that's the one I'm REALLY praying for. Who knows? If his information is in fact TRUE, then we might get more Rhiannon songs, since the "Blue Water" demo was on the Rhiannon film score master reel.

Regardless, I'm just glad we'll be getting more info via her Instagram real soon. August 5th can't come quickly enough. :nod:

[gssmith]

I've been listing to the original demos on YouTube. Not too familiar with them. I bet that mystery snippet from last month is Baby Doll. Maybe those few lines that we heard were knew additions, but it fits the mood: angry, very angry. the song's subject matter too. It fits. What do y'all think?

[PenguinHead]

I just hope that when we finally know the track list, we will be grateful and happy for what we are getting, and not bitch too much about what we personally wanted, especially if we haven't heard the record yet. After all, it's Stevie's/Sophie's choice, not ours. It's amazing she is even doing this.

I reminds me of Paul McCartney's massive backlog of least 50 unreleased songs ( not demos, but complete studio recordings). Starting in the early 1980s he wanted to compile some of them for release as Cold Cuts. As the years went on he made several more attempts to launch the project, which was conceived in several configurations - a single album, a four CD set, a double album etc... He finally just gave up on it. And he was aware that most of the songs were already in circulation among fans.

[BombaySapphire3]

I've been listing to the original demos on YouTube. Not too familiar with them. I bet that mystery snippet from last month is Baby Doll. Maybe those few lines that we heard were knew additions, but it fits the mood: angry, very angry. the song's subject matter too. It fits. What do y'all think?

I posted awhile back that I thought Baby Doll might make the cut..could be another verse that was omitted from the demo.:shrug:

[Danigirl]

Watch Devil and The Dealer were the two I was most wishing for, this is such good news. Thank you for this post, it only intensified the suspense surrounding this album.

I hope, hope, hope Watch Devil has that funky cool sound the demo has.

[Artemis]

Yay for The Dealer! Just need Joan of Arc and All The Beautiful Worlds confirmed now and I'm very very happy. Ditto Julia.

[WatchChain]

I just hope that when we finally know the track list, we will be grateful and happy for what we are getting, and not bitch too much about what we personally wanted, especially if we haven't heard the record yet. After all, it's Stevie's/Sophie's choice, not ours. It's amazing she is even doing this.

I will be happy with any track list that happens to be presented for "24 Karat Gold". There are dozens of demos out there that I have always hoped would get studio recordings. My personal hopes for the track list are "Julia", "Watch Devil", "Blue Water" and "Space Needle". But, I have taken the last few weeks to reacquaint myself with some of the demos that I've not listened to. I've particularly fallen in love with "My Sanctuary, My Stronghold", which, for some reason, I had never paid much attention to. It's a beautiful song.

[BombaySapphire3]

Yeah. I'm praying that it's on there as well. The same guy also said "Blue Water" is on there as well and that's the one I'm REALLY praying for. Who knows? If his information is in fact TRUE, then we might get more Rhiannon songs, since the "Blue Water" demo was on the Rhiannon film score master reel.

Regardless, I'm just glad we'll be getting more info via her Instagram real soon. August 5th can't come quickly enough. :nod:

Actually you should probably remove Julia and Blue Water from the tentative list since Moe has recently shown himself up for the latest in a growing series of track list fakes.:laugh:

[sorcerer999]

Actually you should probably remove Julia and Blue Water from the tentative list since Moe has recently shown himself up for the latest in a growing series of track list fakes.:laugh:

Agreed. Removing them now...with a tear in my eye. :(

I also removed Gypsy Beggars, just because it's still just "spec" at this point.

[HoursAndHours]

Hi all. While waiting for my account to be approved, I put together my wishlist, because I want to play too, lol.
1. The Dealer
2. Belle Fleur (am I the only one who wants this?)
3. Love And War/Mixdown
4. Watch Devil
5. Forest Of The Black Roses
6. Maker Of Birds
7. Cecilia
8. Love You Enough
9. If You Were My Love
10. City Of Hope
11. All The Beautiful Worlds
12. Space Needle
13. Have No Heart

I'm happy because Starshine and 24 Karat Gold would have been on the list anyway.

Also, as an aside, I successfully Shazamed the 15 second clip of 24KG from Dave Stewarts fb page. It's possible the tracklist is tucked away in Grace note if anybody is better at searching non-searchable databases than me.

Finally, howdy. I'm a geology grad student in the Midwest. I've been listening to Stevie and Fleetwood Mac since Behind the Mask and Timespace. I still wish they'd do Save Me on tour, since that's the song (along with Sometimes It's A Bitch) that got my attention to begin with.

[vivfox]

Hi all. While waiting for my account to be approved, I put together my wishlist, because I want to play too, lol.
Belle Fleur (am I the only one who wants this?)


Belle Fleur 0r Flower as I like to write, is on my wish list also. LOVE this song.

[vivfox]

I've been listening to Stevie and Fleetwood Mac since Behind the Mask and Timespace. I still wish they'd do Save Me on tour, since that's the song got my attention to begin with.

I just threw up in my mouth a little.:laugh:

[HoursAndHours]

I just threw up in my mouth a little.:laugh:

Glad to be of service. :D

I know - I grew up in a small town in the late 80's/early 90's, though. My options were limited. In retrospect, there's a lingering sense of mouthpuke about my entire adolescence.

[michelej1]

I just threw up in my mouth a little.:laugh:

I think Save Me is a great song. I don't want them to do it on tour, but I wish it had gotten more attention.

Michele

[AnthonyMI]

Glad to be of service. :D

I know - I grew up in a small town in the late 80's/early 90's, though. My options were limited. In retrospect, there's a lingering sense of mouthpuke about my entire adolescence.

Poufed bangs, hair gel, sheer mid-rift blouses, shoulder pads, slap bracelets, stirrup leggings, what's not to love?

[HoursAndHours]

Poufed bangs, hair gel, sheer mid-rift blouses, shoulder pads, slap bracelets, stirrup leggings, what's not to love?

I know, right? And that was just the guys. :p

[Richard B]

In retrospect, there's a lingering sense of mouthpuke about my entire adolescence.

Too funny. Actually lol and almost rofl.
:D

[HoursAndHours]

I have successfully tagged all three clips that Dave Stewart posted with an android app. What I've gathered from the results is that:

1. It doesn't seem confuse demos with the clips. That is, it doesn't match the master reel version of 24 Karat Gold with the version from the clips.

2. Each song appears to be catalogued individually (there's no "album" entered for them yet. This may be done to protect the tracklisting.

3. The three tracks, presuming they were uploaded to the database by industry people, are titled "24 Karat Gold," "Starshine," and "I Don't Care."

Nothing is certain until an official tracklist is released. But I'm willing to call bull$&!t on all of the tracklists being circulated currently. Now I'm going to try to do something more productive/healthy/sane than obsess over a tracklist. :D

[BombaySapphire3]

I have successfully tagged all three clips that Dave Stewart posted with an android app. What I've gathered from the results is that:

1. It doesn't seem confuse demos with the clips. That is, it doesn't match the master reel version of 24 Karat Gold with the version from the clips.

2. Each song appears to be catalogued individually (there's no "album" entered for them yet. This may be done to protect the tracklisting.

3. The three tracks, presuming they were uploaded to the database by industry people, are titled "24 Karat Gold," "Starshine," and "I Don't Care."

Nothing is certain until an official tracklist is released. But I'm willing to call bull$&!t on all of the tracklists being circulated currently. Now I'm going to try to do something more productive/healthy/sane than obsess over a tracklist. :D
Thank you for your work and I concur completely regarding the phony track list and first single predictions floating around.

[Phil]

I sincerely hope I'm completely wrong about this, but I wonder if "Dial The Number" is or was a contender for the album? I seem to recall someone recently posting in one of the related threads that the copyright for this song was renewed within the last few months. Anyone else remember this?

[sorcerer999]

I went ahead and added "I Don't Care" to the list, even though the title isn't official and we're going by what SHAZAM picked up from the snippit. Other people from other sites have said this track was confirmed as "Amber". Who knows?

Frustration has really set in for me as of late, in regards to all these stupid tracklists, and what has been "confirmed" through un-cited sources versus what hasn't been confirmed.

I'm over it. I'm just gonna patiently wait as long as it takes for us to get something "official". Whether this new tracklist is legit, or whether it's not, I'll just be happy when we get Dave & Stevie's official announcement and her Instagram snippits.

We'll all be happy to see our favorites that have made the cut, and we'll all be disappointed when we learn that our other favorites didn't. It's just how it goes.

[UndoingTheLaces]

The thing about new recordings of beloved demos is that some people seem to want the original demos cleaned up and presented exactly as the demos they've listened to a million times. I take each new song as a brand new thing. People bitched to high hell about Without You, and it broke my heart. This is not two young kids in the middle of an era of hippie love playing a demo on an acoustic guitar. Here are two adults revisiting a song from their youth that they are very fond of. Their voices seasoned with age, using instrumentation that would give a bit of a modern flavor to their old song. Why didn't they stay truer to the original? Because everyone who already loves the song already has that version. They could have just taken the original and gave it to a producer to give it the remix treatment like they did with Landslide years ago. But they wanted to sing the song as they are now, and remember fondly the days when it was first written. So if Stevie does do Blue Water now, it won't be that young girl at a piano looking out over the ocean, dreaming. It will now be a strong, beautiful older woman, revisiting this beautiful old song and giving you her take on where it stands in her life today. With the voice she has today and the studio capabilities that she has today.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that if you want to make your wish lists and hope to hear your favorite songs on this album, that's great, but be ready to accept them as they are now. You have the originals. Nobody's going to make you hand them in to get the new album. Appreciate this new album for what it is. I, frankly, can't wait to hear it. And I know it's going to be wonderful because Stevie has obviously chosen songs that she wants to revisit. So how could that possibly be a bad thing?

[sorcerer999]

I guess what I'm trying to say is that if you want to make your wish lists and hope to hear your favorite songs on this album, that's great, but be ready to accept them as they are now. You have the originals. Nobody's going to make you hand them in to get the new album. Appreciate this new album for what it is. I, frankly, can't wait to hear it. And I know it's going to be wonderful because Stevie has obviously chosen songs that she wants to revisit. So how could that possibly be a bad thing?

AMEN! :xoxo:

[BlueDenimLamp]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Make sure to follow Stevie on Instagram at ‘stevienicksofficial’ for an early sampling of the album each week starting this Monday!</p>&mdash; Stevie Nicks (@StevieNicks) <a href="https://twitter.com/StevieNicks/statuses/493921223282151425">July 29, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Looks like info has been moved up to the 4th...

If everyone can be patient you will save yourself a lot of grief...

[HoursAndHours]

Frustration has really set in for me as of late

Yeah, I already feel like an overly obsessive freak now. I think my speculation is concluded.

If everyone can be patient you will save yourself a lot of grief...

Patience, which is clearly one of the more prominent virtues 'round here. :laugh:

[editme2]

The thing about new recordings of beloved demos is that some people seem to want the original demos cleaned up and presented exactly as the demos they've listened to a million times. I take each new song as a brand new thing. People bitched to high hell about Without You, and it broke my heart. This is not two young kids in the middle of an era of hippie love playing a demo on an acoustic guitar. Here are two adults revisiting a song from their youth that they are very fond of. Their voices seasoned with age, using instrumentation that would give a bit of a modern flavor to their old song. Why didn't they stay truer to the original? Because everyone who already loves the song already has that version. They could have just taken the original and gave it to a producer to give it the remix treatment like they did with Landslide years ago. But they wanted to sing the song as they are now, and remember fondly the days when it was first written. So if Stevie does do Blue Water now, it won't be that young girl at a piano looking out over the ocean, dreaming. It will now be a strong, beautiful older woman, revisiting this beautiful old song and giving you her take on where it stands in her life today. With the voice she has today and the studio capabilities that she has today.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that if you want to make your wish lists and hope to hear your favorite songs on this album, that's great, but be ready to accept them as they are now. You have the originals. Nobody's going to make you hand them in to get the new album. Appreciate this new album for what it is. I, frankly, can't wait to hear it. And I know it's going to be wonderful because Stevie has obviously chosen songs that she wants to revisit. So how could that possibly be a bad thing?

Wow! I love this post. Exquisitely said. Thank you so much!

[BlueDenimLamp]

Yeah, I already feel like an overly obsessive freak now. I think my speculation is concluded.



Patience, which is clearly one of the more prominent virtues 'round here. :laugh:

Personally I have little interest in advance knowledge of the track listing...We will find out soon enough so why worry about something you have no control over...It will be whatever it is...


Look at how lucky we are that the album will be out as quickly as it's going to be...At this point with IYD we had another 9 months of waiting left...

[sorcerer999]

Look at how lucky we are that the album will be out as quickly as it's going to be...At this point with IYD we had another 9 months of waiting left...

Yep. I would consider us diehard Stevie fans VERY fortunate. 5 months is a record with her. Casual Stevie fans, or just the general public who dig her/Fleetwood Mac don't really give a sh*t about the track listing or release date.

[Jondalar]

Do you you guys buy Julia is the first single? I'm not sold. Wrong type of video for it.

[BlueDenimLamp]

Do you you guys buy Julia is the first single? I'm not sold. Wrong type of video for it.

Wrong type of video??? Do you know something we don't???

[Jondalar]

Wrong type of video??? Do you know something we don't???

Its only her and location and her signing into camera. That seems like a slower song than Julia. The video for that would be more complicated.

[Bandon]

FYI The preview has been moved up to August 4th.

[BlueDenimLamp]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Make sure to follow Stevie on Instagram at ‘stevienicksofficial’ for an early sampling of the album each week starting this Monday!</p>&mdash; Stevie Nicks (@StevieNicks) <a href="https://twitter.com/StevieNicks/statuses/493921223282151425">July 29, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Looks like info has been moved up to the 4th...

If everyone can be patient you will save yourself a lot of grief...

FYI The preview has been moved up to August 4th.

The early bird catches the worm...

[Bandon]

The early bird catches the worm...

That's okay but kinda creepy. .....didn't think it was in competition to get word out first. But uh, okay.. you win and get credit for this one...I guess..whatever dude.

[Jondalar]

It's pretty much a given we are getting Space Needle. I'm just sitting here wondering if she will get rid of that "tar people" line . I need a life!

[HoursAndHours]

It's pretty much a given we are getting Space Needle. I'm just sitting here wondering if she will get rid of that "tar people" line . I need a life!

I never noticed that. I always thought it was "dark people," (in a mystical sense, not the slur it appears to be). What the hell is a tar person?

[Phil]

That's my main problem with "Space Needle" - after about the 4:30 mark, the song begins to meander and the lyrics become absurd. The line about the "tar people" and the cringeworthy "we gotta get out of this place" make me hang my head in shame. I just knew Dave would go for this track, but it needs savage editing to make any sense out of it. If it clocks in at over 5 minutes, we're in for trouble.

[Jondalar]

I never noticed that. I always thought it was "dark people," (in a mystical sense, not the slur it appears to be). What the hell is a tar person?

Space Needle - Seattle - written at height of Grundge- Kurt Cobain's death - Tar People ------ DRUG DEALERS!

[louielouie2000]

It's pretty much a given we are getting Space Needle. I'm just sitting here wondering if she will get rid of that "tar people" line . I need a life!

I know there are supposed to be 2 songs on the album from that era, but it's just so hard for me to wrap my mind around Stevie releasing that one. It's just so hopeless- Stevie doesn't record songs like that. Nor does she seem to want to ever acknowledge any klonopin era songs. Don't get me wrong, I'd be thrilled if we got Space Needle- it just seems like such a remote possibility. Then again, 2 years ago I would have said the same thing about Christine's return... :p

[louielouie2000]

Space Needle - Seattle - written at height of Grundge- Kurt Cobain's death - Tar People ------ DRUG DEALERS!

Tar people = black tar heroin addicts.

[Jondalar]

That's my main problem with "Space Needle" - after about the 4:30 mark, the song begins to meander and the lyrics become absurd. The line about the "tar people" and the cringeworthy "we gotta get out of this place" make me hang my head in shame. I just knew Dave would go for this track, but it needs savage editing to make any sense out of it. If it clocks in at over 5 minutes, we're in for trouble.

I feel exactly the way you do. Starts out great but ends with huh? wtf did she did say?

[HoursAndHours]

It makes me think of this...
http://youtu.be/ykWPyaqbebo
:laugh:

[Jondalar]

Tar people = black tar heroin addicts.

Yeah addicts not dealers but song is a sad warning and it's about what was going on in Seattle at that time I think. Space Needle is in Seattle.

[Jondalar]

It makes me think of this...
http://youtu.be/ykWPyaqbebo
:laugh:

We'll she has been on Southpark LOL
--children of world, the forgotten chimpanzee, in the eyes of the world you have done so much for me

[HoursAndHours]

We'll she has been on Southpark LOL
--children of world, the forgotten chimpanzee, in the eyes of the world you have done so much for me

Omg, the goat. LOL. I forgot about that. I always feel bad when people make fun of her vibrato...

...but it's usually pretty funny, too. :lol:

[Nickingham]

I think artists should be allowed to keep whatever lyrics they want in their songs. However, in the case of Space Needle and Julia, it's worries me a bit because I can just see some people casually listening to those songs and take the lyrics the wrong way.
And suddenly it's:
"What does she mean by 'tar people''"
and
"What the **** is she talking about 'slavery' for? What is THAT suppose to mean?!!!:mad:"
*sigh*
And the rest of us will facepalm....


In any case, I'd like for both of those songs to be on 24 kt...along with Something Exquisite.
Hopefully she saved IYWML for a FM album. I wanna hear Chris with her sparkly piano on that song!

[Jondalar]

I think artists should be allowed to keep whatever lyrics they want in their songs. However, in the case of Space Needle and Julia, it's worries me a bit because I can just see some people casually listening to those songs and take the lyrics the wrong way.
And suddenly it's:
"What does she mean by 'tar people''"
and
"What the **** is she talking about 'slavery' for? What is THAT suppose to mean?!!!:mad:"
*sigh*
And the rest of us will facepalm....


In any case, I'd like for both of those songs to be on 24 kt...along with Something Exquisite.
Hopefully she saved IYWML for a FM album. I wanna hear Chris with her sparkly piano on that song!

Stevie is the only artist I can think of who would write a song called Space Needle. -- so individualistic!

---I am a cliff dweller from the old school!!! Snap!!!! Take that!!!!

[BombaySapphire3]

Stevie doesn't record songs like that. Nor does she seem to want to ever acknowledge any klonopin era songs.. :p

Space Needle was written in 1995 ..post klonopin era.

[BombaySapphire3]

I think artists should be allowed to keep whatever lyrics they want in their songs. However, in the case of Space Needle and Julia, it's worries me a bit because I can just see some people casually listening to those songs and take the lyrics the wrong way.
[

I would not worry about too many casual listeners hearing these songs...this one is for the fanatics.

[Nickingham]

Stevie is the only artist I can think of who would write a song called Space Needle. -- so individualistic!

---I am a cliff dweller from the old school!!! Snap!!!! Take that!!!!
If Stevie gets any flak, she should say that, do a twirl and storm off. lol

I would not worry about too many casual listeners hearing these songs...this one is for the fanatics.
True. I just wouldn't want Stevie to get bashed over words that were misconstrued. :)

[goldustsongbird]

I think artists should be allowed to keep whatever lyrics they want in their songs. However, in the case of Space Needle and Julia, it's worries me a bit because I can just see some people casually listening to those songs and take the lyrics the wrong way.
And suddenly it's:
"What does she mean by 'tar people''"
and!

As Louie said, tar people are heroin addicts. Heroin was the one drug Stevie said she would never take.

"A guy once slipped it to me, I was so angry that I threw him out of the house and never saw him again. ... "I wasn't 29 until I first tried coke. Let me tell you something about heroin and Fleetwood Mac. We never dabbled with it. We didn't wanna commit suicide."

[louielouie2000]

Space Needle was written in 1995 ..post klonopin era.

I realize that... but it's about her stint in rehab for Klonopin, so I worry she lumps it in with that whole time period.

[lvhlive!]

I love Space Needle and would love to have it on the album - it's so interesting and dark. I actually have never really thought to find out what it was about - was her rehab centre in Seattle then? Forgive my lack of knowledge!

[HoursAndHours]

So, imagine if we don't get the tracklist on Monday. They might drag this out, track by track via instagram, all the way until the release date...

:eek:

[BlueDenimLamp]

So, imagine if we don't get the tracklist on Monday. They might drag this out, track by track via instagram, all the way until the release date...

:eek:

At the very least we will get the track listing when pre-orders are taken...WB will provide complete album info so people know what they are buying,,,

[HoursAndHours]

At the very least we will get the track listing when pre-orders are taken...WB will provide complete album info so people know what they are buying,,,

Most likely, but they might not, you know, as a marketing technique. I have albums without the tracklisting printed on them, and I've seen pre-orders on iTunes where the tracks were listed as "Track 1, Track 2, The New Single, Track 4," etc. until like a week before release. For example, check out "collide" by Boyz 2 Men (I am not a fan, lol) on iTunes.

[StreetAngel86]

So, imagine if we don't get the tracklist on Monday. They might drag this out, track by track via instagram, all the way until the release date...

:eek:


so, i'll start pulling my hair out NOW shall i?
:lol:
we don't get a track listing until the CD is in our hands :cool:

[Bandon]

At the very least we will get the track listing when pre-orders are taken...WB will provide complete album info so people know what they are buying,,,

That makes sense

[BlueDenimLamp]

Once promo copies start getting handed out to the media we will know the track listing if not sooner...

[welcomechris]

That first fake tracklisting had SO many flaws in it

'Priest of Nothing' - Which is Stevie lyrics over two Joe Walsh instrumentals (written by like ten people) and incorrect track name, (the real one has yet to be confirmed) the track name "Priest of Nothing" was created by former ledgie Mike Bise.

'Turnstiles 69' - Made up song with no matches under copyright, lyrics, or close matches

'Cecilia' - Shares music with Sisters of the Moon and many musical qualities to Sisters of the Moon

'I Call You Missing' - Basically a mix of "Whole Lotta Trouble" and "Love Is Like A River"

This tracklisting was 'briefly' uploaded to Wikipedia and has since been removed - When something gets 'removed' from Wikipedia, It means it is incorrect. Anyone can edit a wikipedia page without creating an account, it's that simple.

Dave Stewart himself has confirmed this is not the correct tracklisting for 24 Karat Gold: Songs from the Vault



Just thought I'd share this because many websites have been writing stuff like this "No track list has been announced as of the date of publication for the album; however, an entry was posted on Wikipedia, since taken down, that was said to include the official track list for the set"

[Bandon]

Stevie is the only artist I can think of who would write a song called Space Needle. -- so individualistic!

---I am a cliff dweller from the old school!!! Snap!!!! Take that!!!!

To me Space Needle is such a dark-trippy song where Stevie writes about someone in the throws of addition to heroin., not someone going through rehab. The addict she sings about is in a dark, lonely place..relecting on his/her reality and the choices they made. The crossroads was deciding to shoot up for the first time. I think she drew from her own experience of addiction. As we all know, she could have been inspred by a book, her own experiences, someone she knew, a sign like "Silver Springs"Maryland LOL or all. Or from a movie like "Drugstore Cowboy." I digress..I so hope it's on the new lp/cd.:nod:

[Jondalar]

To me Space Needle is such a dark-trippy song where Stevie writes about someone in the throws of addition to heroin., not someone going through rehab. The addict she sings about is in a dark, lonely place..relecting on his/her reality and the choices they made. The crossroads was deciding to shoot up for the first time. I think she drew from her own experience of addiction. As we all know, she could have been inspred by a book, her own experiences, someone she knew, a sign like "Silver Springs"Maryland LOL or all. Or from a movie like "Drugstore Cowboy." I digress..I so hope it's on the new lp/cd.:nod:

We'll I like most of the song until "we got to get out of here" then It goes south. It changes the tone of the song. The "tar people" reference turns the song into a joke. Almost 100 sure it is on the album but maybe not.

[BlueDenimLamp]

Stevie is the only artist I can think of who would write a song called Space Needle. -- so individualistic!

---I am a cliff dweller from the old school!!! Snap!!!! Take that!!!!

Stevie's not the only artist nor is she the first...Neil Young's "Needle And The Damage Done" is much more direct...Neil fired his guitar player for showing up high one to many times...The guitar player used the money they game him to get home to buy drugs...He died that same night...

[Jondalar]

Stevie's not the only artist nor is she the first...Neil Young's "Needle And The Damage Done" is much more direct...Neil fired his guitar player for showing up high one to many times...The guitar player used the money they game him to get home to buy drugs...He died that same night...

That is not the same as Space Needle. The title is very unique to me. Reminds me of the B52s.

[Bandon]

That is not the same as Space Needle. The title is very unique to me. Reminds me of the B52s.

Huh? Blue Denim Lamp has it right..for sure dude:shrug:

[Aussie W/Heart]

To me Space Needle is such a dark-trippy song where Stevie writes about someone in the throws of addition to heroin., not someone going through rehab. The addict she sings about is in a dark, lonely place..relecting on his/her reality and the choices they made. The crossroads was deciding to shoot up for the first time. I think she drew from her own experience of addiction. As we all know, she could have been inspred by a book, her own experiences, someone she knew, a sign like "Silver Springs"Maryland LOL or all. Or from a movie like "Drugstore Cowboy." I digress..I so hope it's on the new lp/cd.:nod:

That's why I love Space Needle ^^^ so hoping its on her new album as well :D

[BlueDenimLamp]

That is not the same as Space Needle. The title is very unique to me. Reminds me of the B52s.

I don't see the title "Space Needle" as being unique...There's a very famous building in Seattle called "The Space Needle" and i would guess that most people will think the song is about the building until they hear it...

Didn't Kobian's death have something to do with the song?

[Bandon]

I don't see the title "Space Needle" as being unique...There's a very famous building in Seattle called "The Space Needle"...

Didn't Kobian's death have something to do with the song?

Yes for sure and, I know it sounds obscure, but "Drugstore Cowboy" took place in the Seattle region. If anyone out there saw that great 1989 Guss VanZant movie. ..do you think it could have at least been a partial inspiration? :shrug:

[BlueDenimLamp]

Huh? Blue Denim Lamp has it right..for sure dude:shrug:

Add "Mr. Brownstone" from Guns & Roses to the list...

[BlueDenimLamp]

Yes for sure and, I know it sounds obscure, but "Drugstore Cowboy" took place in the Seattle region. If anyone out there saw that great 1989 Guss VanZant movie. ..do you think it could have at least been a partial inspiration? :shrug:

All Stevie did was watch TV back then so she may have seen it...

[Bandon]

All Stevie did was watch TV back then so she may have seen it...

LOL Great point...:laugh::laugh::laugh:

[BombaySapphire3]

I always thought that Space Needle was mostly about the death of Kurt Cobain:shrug:anyway I'm probably one of the few that is happy that it will probably make the album.

[Jondalar]

I don't see the title "Space Needle" as being unique...There's a very famous building in Seattle called "The Space Needle" and i would guess that most people will think the song is about the building until they hear it...

Didn't Kobian's death have something to do with the song?

I don't think most people think about the Space Needle. I think most people would be huh? Especially in the midwest and eastern parts of the United States. I didn't even know about the Space Needle until this song. For some reason the first thing that popped into my was 2001 Space Odyssey.

[Fannymac]

At the very least we will get the track listing when pre-orders are taken...WB will provide complete album info so people know what they are buying,,,

Not necessarily......the new Miranda Lambert was out and the track listing still wasn't posted at Amazon. Ditto the new Bryan Adams.....it's been up for pre-order at Amazon for three weeks, and there's still no track listing or artwork posted!

[BlueDenimLamp]

Not necessarily......the new Miranda Lambert was out and the track listing still wasn't posted at Amazon. Ditto the new Bryan Adams.....it's been up for pre-order at Amazon for three weeks, and there's still no track listing or artwork posted!

Miranda Lambert & Bryan Adams aren't Stevie Nicks or Fleetwood Mac so I don't think 24K will fall through the cracks...

[HoursAndHours]

Miranda Lambert & Bryan Adams aren't Stevie Nicks or Fleetwood Mac so I don't think 24K will fall through the cracks...

You're right, Lambert's last two albums went platinum and gold, respectively. But also, I don't think it has anything to do with falling through the cracks, so much as it does the artist and/or label intentionally withholding the tracklist.

[HoursAndHours]

You're right, Lambert's last two albums went platinum and gold, respectively.

I guess that was a low blow. I must be in argument mode today or something. Sorry. :(

I really hope hope you're right, and that they release the tracklist at the pre-order. I would really like to know what's on it asap, and then be able to enjoy the clips each week in anticipation.

[louielouie2000]

I guess that was a low blow. I must be in argument mode today or something. Sorry. :(

I really hope hope you're right, and that they release the tracklist at the pre-order. I would really like to know what's on it asap, and then be able to enjoy the clips each week in anticipation.

No, that was a legitimate rebuttal- artists who sell more get more attention from their record labels & management. Plain & simple.

It's entirely possible the track listing may not be posted. After all, this is an album comprised solely of old demos that are fan favs. This is an album for the diehards. So what better way to build & retain excitement than to withhold the track listing?

[Jondalar]

No, that was a legitimate rebuttal- artists who sell more get more attention from their record labels & management. Plain & simple.

It's entirely possible the track listing may not be posted. After all, this is an album comprised solely of old demos that are fan favs. This is an album for the diehards. So what better way to build & retain excitement than to withhold the track listing?

We are going to buy it no matter what.

[wheart]

No, that was a legitimate rebuttal- artists who sell more get more attention from their record labels & management. Plain & simple.

It's entirely possible the track listing may not be posted. After all, this is an album comprised solely of old demos that are fan favs. This is an album for the diehards. So what better way to build & retain excitement than to withhold the track listing?

Right. I think the whole Instagram idea is to stretch out the tracklist across several months. I don't even think they'll reveal the song titles at all. I think we'll get snippets of each song, one per week or whatever and that's it. I could be wrong, of course and I hope that I am. Time will tell

[HoursAndHours]

Right. I think the whole Instagram idea is to stretch out the tracklist across several months. I don't even think they'll reveal the song titles at all. I think we'll get snippets of each song, one per week or whatever and that's it. I could be wrong, of course and I hope that I am. Time will tell

That's basically my fear. That and that the first three previews will be of the songs we've already heard from Dave Stewart. So that we're still a couple weeks out from knowing anything more than we already do. :shrug:
Edit: I'll reiterate that I really hope I'm wrong about that.

[DauphineMarie]

That's basically my fear. That and that the first three previews will be of the songs we've already heard from Dave Stewart. So that we're still a couple weeks out from knowing anything more than we already do. :shrug:
Edit: I'll reiterate that I really hope I'm wrong about that.

I'm thinking they won't release the tracklist either, at least until we have all seen the snippets, but by then we'll have it anyway, lol. Smart PR I think. :p

[BlueDenimLamp]

How does Stevie expect to sell records when little is being done to build an interest the upcoming release?

Seriously the pre-sale is on Tuesday and all we have gotten are two tweets from Camp Stevie how are they supposed to build interest in the album with 2 tweets...
Stevie has no useful website and the WB site is still promoting the "IYD" DVD...Camp Stevie had better get the ball rolling and take an active roll in promotion because as others have stated 24K will probably receive little radio promotion and WB isn't going to launch a massive ad campaign like they would have 30 years ago so if Stevie want's sell as many records as she can she's going to have to take matters into her own two little chain mail gloved hands and do things her self or have someone do it for her...As we are all painfully aware she needs a NEW website that is updated on a regular basis ALL of the "Stevie" social media sites need to be linked together and they need to have links for the website on them...There should already be previews of a few songs and what the album will look like and what the TRACKLISTING is...In other words they should be promoting 24K BEFORE the pre-sale and building as much interest as they can ahead of time...I worry that only a few posts will be made on the Instagram and then it will be forgotten about...

Yes I realize she will not sell like the younger artists but 24K should get the best promotion it can I don't mean to ramble but I just don't understand what Stevie's people are doing...Are they lazy? Do they not understand using social media for promotion? Or do the just not care...

[DauphineMarie]

How does Stevie expect to sell records when little is being done to build an interest the upcoming release?

Seriously the pre-sale is on Tuesday and all we have gotten are two tweets from Camp Stevie how are they supposed to build interest in the album with 2 tweets...
Stevie has no useful website and the WB site is still promoting the "IYD" DVD...Camp Stevie had better get the ball rolling and take an active roll in promotion because as others have stated 24K will probably receive little radio promotion and WB isn't going to launch a massive ad campaign like they would have 30 years ago so if Stevie want's sell as many records as she can she's going to have to take matters into her own two little chain mail gloved hands and do things her self or have someone do it for her...As we are all painfully aware she needs a NEW website that is updated on a regular basis ALL of the "Stevie" social media sites need to be linked together and they need to have links for the website on them...There should already be previews of a few songs and what the album will look like and what the TRACKLISTING is...In other words they should be promoting 24K BEFORE the pre-sale and building as much interest as they can ahead of time...I worry that only a few posts will be made on the Instagram and then it will be forgotten about...

Yes I realize she will not sell like the younger artists but 24K should get the best promotion it can I don't mean to ramble but I just don't understand what Stevie's people are doing...Are they lazy? Do they not understand using social media for promotion? Or do the just not care...

I think you are so right about this. I really honestly don't think they want to do a huge PR campaign, and even if they do, they are not going about it the right way. As someone who works in PR for a living, I would have done exactly as you said, releasing snippets and photos, and even doing the odd interview here and there. I mean when you think of how well IYD actually did for someone who was 63 years old, this record could be great. But in today's market for music, the really good promotion is kind of lost in the sea of obsessive media mass-marketing. It actually makes me sad that they could do so much more for Stevie and her album, but really this whole project is shrouded in secrecy almost. I guess they're going for the suspense angle, but to the average listener, who they should be targeting (we're all going to buy it no matter what lol) they won't catch on. I don't know, but you are absolutely right.

[Bandon]

Unfortunately I don't think WB is going to be heavily promoting this project for reasons already discussed including it's aimed primarily at her fan base. Also because FM is no longer in their stable of artists. The only possible reason I think they might.. is to milk the whole Christine tour angle. Hell, there could be a memo titled, "Stevie Nicks' new album track listing" with all of the new tracks just laying round on some lowly clerk's desk at the WB offices waiting to be forwarded. Maybe it will all come down to that clerk's interest or ability to stay on top of his or her job! LOL

[Johnny Stew]

How does Stevie expect to sell records when little is being done to build an interest the upcoming release?

Seriously the pre-sale is on Tuesday and all we have gotten are two tweets from Camp Stevie

The pre-sale may be next Tuesday, but the album isn't released for three more months. I'm sure there will be plenty of promotion leading up to October 7th. Not Gaga-sized promotion, mind you, but a respectable amount nonetheless.

In the meantime, have fun & enjoy the ride!

[BombaySapphire3]

I think camp Stevie understands that there are around 100,000 people who will buy her album ,with the deluxe editions and vinyl this will still be more than enough to turn a profit.I doubt there will even be much of a push for a single to get radio airplay this time.I think there will be a single though and it will very likely be The Dealer.

[DauphineMarie]

I think camp Stevie understands that there are around 100,000 people who will buy her album ,with the deluxe editions and vinyl this will still be more than enough to turn a profit.I doubt there will even be much of a push for a single to get radio airplay this time.I think there will be a single though and it will very likely be The Dealer.

I hope they do try for a radio friendly-single though. I personally love The Dealer, and it could be popular, if done correctly. It just so much depends on the content of the album to decide what the single should be.

[BlueDenimLamp]

I think you are so right about this. I really honestly don't think they want to do a huge PR campaign, and even if they do, they are not going about it the right way. As someone who works in PR for a living, I would have done exactly as you said, releasing snippets and photos, and even doing the odd interview here and there. I mean when you think of how well IYD actually did for someone who was 63 years old, this record could be great. But in today's market for music, the really good promotion is kind of lost in the sea of obsessive media mass-marketing. It actually makes me sad that they could do so much more for Stevie and her album, but really this whole project is shrouded in secrecy almost. I guess they're going for the suspense angle, but to the average listener, who they should be targeting (we're all going to buy it no matter what lol) they won't catch on. I don't know, but you are absolutely right.

Stevie should be taking a page out of her favorite rock & roll band Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers book and do what they are doing...They have a website...They have a twitter.. And these are updated regularly...TP has a new album coming out and they have a "Virtual Radio" on the TP website where you can listen to 5 (yes 5 ) songs from the album before it comes out...

As for the "average listeners" who don't don't know about Stevie's demos they should be targeting them by promoting it as just a new album...

How hard would it be to put one of the many people on her payroll in charge of keeping her website /social media updated?

[loverly13]

Stevie should be taking a page out of her favorite rock & roll band Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers book and do what they are doing...They have a website...They have a twitter.. And these are updated regularly...TP has a new album coming out and they have a "Virtual Radio" on the TP website where you can listen to 5 (yes 5 ) songs from the album before it comes out...

As for the "average listeners" who don't don't know about Stevie's demos they should be targeting them by promoting it as just a new album...

How hard would it be to put one of the many people on her payroll in charge of keeping her website /social media updated?

I agree whole heartedly! I mentioned them in the blog (http://hipgenius.com/stevie-nicks-joins-instagram-how-old-dogs-are-learning-new-tricks/) I wrote about it for my social media agency. I emailed it to Liz Rosenberg the other day and reached out just throwing it out there that I really think this could be done well and done easily and asking for a conversation. No response so far, not that I thought I'd get one, but I'd rather try than do nothing. I also let them know that their location settings are turned on, so you can track their first Instagram back to the Warner Brothers lot... sigh. Does anyone know a better contact to get in touch with?

[Fannymac]

I guess that was a low blow. I must be in argument mode today or something. Sorry. :(

I really hope hope you're right, and that they release the tracklist at the pre-order. I would really like to know what's on it asap, and then be able to enjoy the clips each week in anticipation.

Apology accepted....we all have those days! (That's why I won't point out that all five of Miranda's albums have gone platinum, with the latest hitting #1 on both the pop AND country charts....something Stevie hasn't done in a while and/or never done).

There really are a lot of factors involved....label, management, artist. For instance, the new Jackson Browne has been up for pre-order for three weeks, with artwork and track listing posted.....yet he's not coming out until the same day as Stevie!
On the flip side, there was a new double disc Kinks anthology out this week....still no track listing to tell people what's on it!
Finally, Melissa Etheridge has a new one out September 30 ~ first for a new label! ~ and it's still not up yet for pre-order!

For me, it's a no-brainer.....get things like the track listing and artwork up as soon as possible and try to build up as much anticipation and interest as you can!:blob2:

[Jondalar]

Hmmmmm Stevie promoted the hell out of IYD. It did what it did, which was better than other classic rock singer songwriters.

[Fannymac]

It really boils down to the label....Sony/BMG is the worst! If I remember correctly, all of the Warner releases that I've gotten of late ~ Tom Petty, Sheryl Crow, Ashley Monroe ~ had their artwork and track listing up well before the release date.

The other thing we have in our favor.....there are two versions, so they have to show what those two bonus tracks are. We may not have it Tuesday, but I would definitely think by mid-month!

[Jondalar]

It really boils down to the label....Sony/BMG is the worst! If I remember correctly, all of the Warner releases that I've gotten of late ~ Tom Petty, Sheryl Crow, Ashley Monroe ~ had their artwork and track listing up well before the release date.

The other thing we have in our favor.....there are two versions, so they have to show what those two bonus tracks are. We may not have it Tuesday, but I would definitely think by mid-month!

We have to get the track listing when the album goes on sale. We have to know what songs we are getting.

[HoursAndHours]

We have to get the track listing when the album goes on sale. We have to know what songs we are getting.

I hope we do, but it's certainly possible we won't. It's a reasonably common practice to withhold the tracklist to generate excitement. There are albums for available for pre-order right now that do not have a tracklist available.

[BombaySapphire3]

We have to get the track listing when the album goes on sale. We have to know what songs we are getting.

Remember the preorder for IYD ?There was no track list then and there would not be for a couple of months.What we did get was the first single with the preorder .I am at least hoping for that.

[HoursAndHours]

Remember the preorder for IYD ?There was no track list then and there would not be for a couple of months.What we did get was the first single with the preorder .I am at least hoping for that.

That would be a great start. Especially if the single isn't one of the three we've heard. If nothing else, we should get the tracklist week by week from Instagram. I'd still rather have it all at once, I think.

[Jondalar]

That would be a great start. Especially if the single isn't one of the three we've heard. If nothing else, we should get the tracklist week by week from Instagram. I'd still rather have it all at once, I think.

well we should have the cover too, should I stay up tomorrow, I wonder how long before they post that instagram on the 4th

[HoursAndHours]

well we should have the cover too, should I stay up tomorrow, I wonder how long before they post that instagram on the 4th

Yeah, tomorrow's going to be so long, lol. It's like Christams Eve. :laugh:

[DauphineMarie]

I've been patiently waiting for awhile, but now that we're coming down the homestretch, each week is going to get longer, and longer, and longer... :nod:

[michelej1]

I hope we do, but it's certainly possible we won't. It's a reasonably common practice to withhold the tracklist to generate excitement. There are albums for available for pre-order right now that do not have a tracklist available.

With most albums, since the songs are unfamiliar, a tracklist doesn't really reveal too much. You can just imagine the songs that lie behind it. But with this album, since we know the songs, they have all the more reason to withhold the tracklist, because we'll know too much.

Michele

[DauphineMarie]

With most albums, since the songs are unfamiliar, a tracklist doesn't really reveal too much. You can just imagine the songs that lie behind it. But with this album, since we know the songs, they have all the more reason to withhold the tracklist, because we'll know too much.

Michele

I actually think this is right.. They know that we know, so they want us to wait ever so "patiently"

[BombaySapphire3]

I think it is pretty much a given that the track list will not appear in the next week..The preview snippets revealed over the next 8 weeks are how we are going to get the track list..barring an inside leak.;)

[Dex]

With most albums, since the songs are unfamiliar, a tracklist doesn't really reveal too much. You can just imagine the songs that lie behind it. But with this album, since we know the songs, they have all the more reason to withhold the tracklist, because we'll know too much.

Michele

Yes exactly. Have we coined the term "fantitlement" yet? I think it applies to the SN subforum at the moment. All this angst over tracklists and snippets not being released quickly enough. We have a release date, people. And it's way sooner than most of us would've expected. All will be known on the release date, and ultimately no real opinions about the album can be formed prior to that, regardless of whatever snippets surface. We have to relax a little and just be excited and willing to be surprised, not completely spoiled.

Sorry. It's Sunday morning and I'm feeling preachy, I guess. ;)

[Johnny Stew]

Sorry. It's Sunday morning and I'm feeling preachy, I guess. ;)

Amen, Brother Dex!

I'm very much looking forward to the track-list reveal, but the build-up is half the fun. Enjoy the ride, folks!

[saintbernard]

Yes exactly. Have we coined the term "fantitlement" yet? I think it applies to the SN subforum at the moment. All this angst over tracklists and snippets not being released quickly enough. We have a release date, people. And it's way sooner than most of us would've expected. All will be known on the release date, and ultimately no real opinions about the album can be formed prior to that, regardless of whatever snippets surface. We have to relax a little and just be excited and willing to be surprised, not completely spoiled.

Sorry. It's Sunday morning and I'm feeling preachy, I guess. ;)

Very well said and not the least bit preachy, I don't think!

The way I see it, this album is a once in a lifetime kind of thing. How often does an artist like Stevie go back through their old vault of unreleased material and actually re-record and release the songs the fans have loved listening to via bootlegs? I want the excitement of it to last as long as it can so it doesn't bother me in the least there is no track list or cover out yet. I'm sure there will be songs included that I love, songs I dislike and some I think are just OK. But I will have enjoyed the ride getting there. All of this secrecy makes it that much better.

To use a few old cliches: patience is a virtue and good things come to those who wait. Exercise a little patience, folks. Barring any future miracles, we won't be going through an event like this again. Cherish it while it's here.

I love the word "fantitlement", btw. ;)

[f2theox]

I'm really hoping we get the first single download with the pre-order Tuesday. I know a lot of artists have been doing that lately with their album pre-orders.

[BlueLight]

I'm really hoping we get the first single download with the pre-order Tuesday. I know a lot of artists have been doing that lately with their album pre-orders.

I would bet that we most definitely will.

[DauphineMarie]

I'm really hoping we get the first single download with the pre-order Tuesday. I know a lot of artists have been doing that lately with their album pre-orders.

I'm sorry, stupid question, but can you pre-order the vinyl on Tuesday too, or is that released separately on 9/29? :sorry:

[sorcerer999]

I'm pretty sure you can preorder EVERY format available on Tuesday.

[HoursAndHours]

Yes exactly. Have we coined the term "fantitlement" yet? I think it applies to the SN subforum at the moment.

I make no apology for wanting what I want. I can wish for an outcome and still thoroughly enjoy the ride. Besides, it's not like I'm going to get angry if I don't get it. I explicitly wanted the experience of hyperventilating over the new Stevie record, lol. ;)

The way I see it, this album is a once in a lifetime kind of thing.

I couldn't agree more, hence the sense of urgency - especially as someone who has been listening to some of these songs for close to 20 years.

Let us have our hysterics, "this time would not come again..." :D

[HoursAndHours]

I'm pretty sure you can preorder EVERY format available on Tuesday.

I hope so, I might be persuaded to drop extra money for a vinyl copy in case I can afford a decent stereo down the road (like, when I'm not living on a grad student stipend, and can once again afford something more high-class than hot dogs wrapped in ramen noodles for dinner, lol).

[DauphineMarie]

I hope so, I might be persuaded to drop extra money for a vinyl copy in case I can afford a decent stereo down the road (like, when I'm not living on a grad student stipend, and can once again afford something more high-class than hot dogs wrapped in ramen noodles for dinner, lol).

I don't have the time or the patience to completely put together a top-notch sound system for my vinyl yet, but I like having a physical copy of it, because it's real. To me, a digital download is made of nothing but sound. A physical piece of vinyl, at least to me, has a value unlike any other format. But maybe I'm being overly nostalgic..

[sorcerer999]

well we should have the cover too, should I stay up tomorrow, I wonder how long before they post that instagram on the 4th

I'm hoping it will be some time in the morning...but it wouldn't surprise me if we don't get it till much later in the day. :(

[BlueDenimLamp]

I don't have the time or the patience to completely put together a top-notch sound system for my vinyl yet, but I like having a physical copy of it, because it's real. To me, a digital download is made of nothing but sound. A physical piece of vinyl, at least to me, has a value unlike any other format. But maybe I'm being overly nostalgic..

Vinyl has the actual vibration that make up the music pressed into the record ( listen to a record with the sound off and your ear close to the turntable and you will hear the needle being vibrated by the grooves of the record) while digital is nothing more than binary code...

[vivfox]

Hooked up the turntable to the speakers today.

[sorcerer999]

Hooked up the turntable to the speakers today.

...baby steps, now Viv...:laugh::xoxo:

[Dex]

Vinyl has the actual vibration that make up the music pressed into the record ( listen to a record with the sound off and your ear close to the turntable and you will hear the needle being vibrated by the grooves of the record) while digital is nothing more than binary code...

Well, since we're getting so darn reductive about it, no matter the format it's all essentially just vibrations in the air slamming against your eardrum and being translated into neural signals. But that doesn't sound nearly as exciting, I guess.

I'll be fairly happy with a digital copy, personally. I don't romanticise the physical much but that probably just comes from living in a small place. ;) I do think we're likely to get the deluxe CD for my husband's benefit, though, as the prospect of looking through a 50-page photo-book once and then never again is tempting to him in a way that I can't relate to.

[HoursAndHours]

it's all essentially just vibrations in the air.

Pressure waves, even. :D

As a math lover, I can really appreciate digital. It's like calculus, making the step size so small that the difference between a digital sinewave and an analog sinewave is imperceptible to the human ear - eventually maybe even indistinguishable to instrumentation. But I also love vinyl - for the nostalgia, the collectibility, and for the "vinyl sound."

[Jondalar]

A lot of new people on the ledge it seems. Hmmmmmmmm ......

[Jondalar]

Are they doing Instagram 12 Eastern Time?

[Johnny Stew]

Are they doing Instagram 12 Eastern Time?

My guess is tomorrow, sometime between 12pm and 3pm Eastern Time.

[Jondalar]

My guess is tomorrow, sometime between 12pm and 3pm Eastern Time.

That's BS they know we are waiting...

[HoursAndHours]

That's BS they know we are waiting...

:laugh:

They'll probably wait until 11:59pm, Pacific time.

[Jondalar]

ummm I'm waiting, it's like 12:03 over there. Enough already.

[loverly13]

They didn't post the first picture on the account until 8:30 p.m. EST. I'm definitely curious to see what time they decide to post today, and what they decide to post, period...

[SpyNote]

Everything's coming out from Los Angeles, so it will all be West Coast time. It's only 6:30am over here.

[vivfox]

Everything's coming out from Los Angeles, so it will all be West Coast time. It's only 6:30am over here.

Just like a person fresh from quitting smoking, I am chomping at the bit and anxiously awaiting my snippet.

[HoursAndHours]

Just like a person fresh from quitting smoking, I am chomping at the bit and anxiously awaiting my snippet.

Yeah, I think Instagram and the Ledge are both probably tired of my refresh button this morning. :laugh:

[markolas]

Y'all, last night I dreamed that they released the tracklist. Mirror Mirror and Castaway were on there, but the rest were songs that no one had ever heard of.

[DauphineMarie]

Y'all, last night I dreamed that they released the tracklist. Mirror Mirror and Castaway were on there, but the rest were songs that no one had ever heard of.

Hmm, a prophetic dream is always a good sign. ;) I think Mirror Mirror might finally find a home on an album :D

[HoursAndHours]

Hmm, a prophetic dream is always a good sign. ;) I think Mirror Mirror might finally find a home on an album :D

Wasn't it already released though, as a b-side to Blue Denim? :shrug:

[DauphineMarie]

Wasn't it already released though, as a b-side to Blue Denim? :shrug:

Oh dear, yes wow that was so intelligent, lol. I forgot about that! Thank you haha :laugh:

[HoursAndHours]

Oh dear, yes wow that was so intelligent, lol. I forgot about that! Thank you haha :laugh:

LOL. Well, it's not like she couldn't also redo some b-sides for this record, if she felt they weren't done to her specifications. Maybe we'll get updated versions of Mirror Mirror and Real Tears. My feeling (and hope, tbh) is that none of the songs for 24KtG have seen a proper release.

[DauphineMarie]

LOL. Well, it's not like she couldn't also redo some b-sides for this record, if she felt they weren't done to her specifications. Maybe we'll get updated versions of Mirror Mirror and Real Tears. My feeling (and hope, tbh) is that none of the songs for 24KtG have seen a proper release.

I was sort of hoping for this too. Mirror Mirror, even No Questions Asked, would be nice to hear properly, possibly even a Buckingham Nicks demo. ;)

[Jondalar]

Can't believe I stayed up all night for this and am still waiting. Bah!!!

[sorcerer999]

Can't believe I stayed up all night for this and am still waiting. Bah!!!

I can't believe you stayed up all night, either. :laugh:

Get some rest.

[HoursAndHours]

I can't believe you stayed up all night, either. :laugh:

Get some rest.

I thought about staying up later than usual, in case they released any info in the early a.m. Then I remembered that I have about 3 hours of reading to do after the announcement today, and figured I should probably not give myself a caffeine-induced heart attack for what will probably be a 30 second clip of a song for which I've already heard a 15 second clip. :laugh: