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welcomechris

07-24-2014, 08:27 PM

Of course much more then this has yet to surface but this is just off the top of my head. Add on for me please

Fritz

He's Been Left All Alone
PEACE
I've Been Pretending
Whirlpool
Existentialist

Stevie

Unknown Title (Duet with Sting)
Baby Don't Lose Your Heart
Running Through The Garden (SA Version)
I Call You Missing (SA Version)

TheWILDheart

07-25-2014, 06:11 AM

The 1991 re-recording of "Silver Springs"

WatchChain

07-25-2014, 08:34 AM

The 1991 re-recording of "Silver Springs"

That's a interesting thought. Was there a 1991 RE-recording? I know that Mick NOT allowing "Silver Springs" to be placed on "Timespace" was a source of great conflict between he and Stevie. My assumption was always that Stevie wanted to use the original version that belonged to Warners for "Timespace". I've never thought about it this way. Was there an intention to re-record "Silver Springs" with new session musicians (Waddy Wachtel) for the "Best Of Stevie" album?

BlueDenimLamp

07-25-2014, 08:53 AM

That's a interesting thought. Was there a 1991 RE-recording? I know that Mick NOT allowing "Silver Springs" to be placed on "Timespace" was a source of great conflict between he and Stevie. My assumption was always that Stevie wanted to use the original version that belonged to Warners for "Timespace". I've never thought about it this way. Was there an intention to re-record "Silver Springs" with new session musicians (Waddy Wachtel) for the "Best Of Stevie" album?

The "Silver Springs" conflict was the reason Stevie quite the band...If the Silver Springs recording belonged to WB how is it that Mick was able to keep Stevie from using it...Yes Stevie (actually her mother) owned the copyrights for Silver Springs and WB had the recording rights but what does Mick have?

Is there a Timespace recording of Silver Springs? I've never heard about it...

AnthonyMI

07-25-2014, 09:06 AM

I seem to recall that Stevie re-recorded it in around 1996 while working on a new album? BUt then The Dance happened?

WatchChain

07-25-2014, 09:19 AM

I seem to recall that Stevie re-recorded it in around 1996 while working on a new album? BUt then The Dance happened?

I would LOVE to hear that version!

AnthonyMI

07-25-2014, 09:43 AM

I think it was part of the series of soundtrack songs that ended up on soundtracks like Boys on the Side and Party of Five. There must be several songs from around that time that were shelved because of the Dance. Someone out there found that Silver Springs had its copywrite renewed in 1996 which usually means she recorded it.

vivfox

07-25-2014, 01:03 PM

The "Silver Springs" conflict was the reason Stevie quit the band...If the Silver Springs recording belonged to WB how is it that Mick was able to keep Stevie from using it...Yes Stevie (actually her mother) owned the copyrights for Silver Springs and WB had the recording rights but what does Mick have?

Mick had the master tapes. Stevie called him and asked for the SS master and he refused to give it to her.

michelej1

07-25-2014, 05:18 PM

The "Silver Springs" conflict was the reason Stevie quite the band...If the Silver Springs recording belonged to WB how is it that Mick was able to keep Stevie from using it...Yes Stevie (actually her mother) owned the copyrights for Silver Springs and WB had the recording rights but what does Mick have?

What Stevie gave her mother was the right to royalties. That doesn't mean that you have any control over the song. Like when Michael Jackson (Sony) bought the Beatles' catalog, he could give permission for their songs to be used in advertisements which they didn't approve, but that didn't stop Paul and Yoko from making money off of the use, even if they had no control over it.

Michele

PenguinHead

07-26-2014, 04:43 AM

PenguinHead

07-26-2014, 05:01 AM

I would LOVE to hear that version!

I can't imagine that it could be any better that the original.

WildHeart69

08-01-2014, 10:20 AM

I think Stevie had said at the Hamptons Film Fest q&a that she just did something with Babyface... not sure if that will ever be released

Machu

08-01-2014, 10:38 AM

The Trouble in Shangri-La sessions that Stevie did with Dallas Austin have never surfaced. I guess she heard TLC's "Unpretty" and thought she had to work with the man that produced it but was unhappy with the results of their sessions. I think she said they were too R&B or something along those lines which is funny because that's pretty much all he'd produced up to that point.

I'd be very interested to hear those songs because I could hear Dallas producing a "Bombay Sapphires" kind of song--very smooth acoustic guitar driven song.

Johnny Stew

08-01-2014, 10:44 AM

For Christine, the following songs haven't surfaced:

(Before) I Lose My Mind
Can't Get Enough
Fight For Love
Gina
Hooked
I Believe, I Believe
Is This What Love Is
Man In White
On Our Own
Ordinary Man
Slow Down
This Feeling Of Love
We Were Lonely

welcomechris

08-01-2014, 11:10 AM

welcomechris

08-01-2014, 11:11 AM

Another one for Christine, "Too Much Is Not Enough"

James Kirk

08-01-2014, 11:12 AM

I recall back in the ancient 1980s there was a news blip which reported that Janey Don't You Lose Your Heart (or something close to that title) was a Bruce Springsteen song that Stevie was going to record. It's possible it never happened. I think his version, which remained unreleased, eventually appeared on a rarities compilation he released.

Hi PenguinHead,
Yes this is essentially correct except that Bruce did initially release the song in 1985 as the B-Side to I'm Going Down.
I have always wanted to hear Stevie's take on it.
Here is the WIKI blurb on it.

The B-side of the single, "Janey, Don't You Lose Heart" is a mid-tempo out-take from the latter stages of the Born in the U.S.A. recording sessions. It has often been rumoured that the song was written for or about[citation needed] Fleetwood Mac vocalist Stevie Nicks, although neither Springsteen or Nicks have confirmed this. In 1985 E Street Band newcomer Nils Lofgren made his first recorded appearance with Springsteen, by overdubbing a backing vocal onto the 1983 track (and in doing so replacing those of Steven Van Zandt on the recording. The Van Zandt version also ran nearly a minute longer, with a long instrumental coda on the end that was later scrubbed from the official release). Many years later "Janey" would surface on the box set Tracks.

Johnny Stew

08-01-2014, 11:41 AM

Solo Version? Wow I'd DIE to hear that

Not to be confused with B.B. King's song with Stevie & Mick. Chris' "Can't Get Enough" was written with Eddy Quintela, and was copyrighted in 1987.

When are these dated from
"(Before) I Lose My Mind" is from 1984, "On Our Own" is 1985, "Slow Down" is 1986, "Hooked" is 1990, "Man In White" is 1997, and all the rest are from 1987.

Meanwhile, scratch "We Were Lonely" from the list. I forgot that one is on Todd Sharp's album 'Who Am I.'

SisterNightroad

02-26-2015, 03:38 PM

Yesterday Javier Pacheco posted this on youtube:

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Live recording at Aragon High School (San Mateo, 1969) by the band Fritz, with Javier Pacheco (clavinet & B-3 organ) on vocals, Lindsey Buckingham (bass) second vocal, with Stevie Nicks (tamborine), Brian Kane (lead guitar), and Bob Aguirre (drums).
Slideshow: Javier Pacheco

Existentialist
(Javier Pacheco)

Don’t pay no dues to community
I won’t waste my dimes on charities
I can leave, I can leave well-enough alone
and I don’t need anyone else’s bones
Just tryin’ to be me and avoid
anything, anything that might collide
trying to reach the high and mighty VOID
you can ask me later,
“Who am I?”

I’m the Axis
Existential
Axis Existentialist
Axis Pisces Existential
Axis Existentialist!

I believe there’s an end to the crime--
said I believe there’s an end to the crime of delinquency
clear out all the jails and let them all go free
teach ‘em how to love, teach not to hate their humanity
but don’t push your damned revelation traps on me

Cuz I’m trying to be me and avoid
anything, anything that might collide
trying to reach the high and mighty VOID
you can ask me later,
“Who am I?”

I’m the Axis
Existential
Axis Existentialist
Axis Pisces Existential
Axis Existentialist!

welcomechris

02-26-2015, 04:09 PM

SisterNightroad

02-26-2015, 04:22 PM

Cool! Not the best quality tho
Yeah, it's true, but I consider myself satisfied anyway!

He also posted other performances that aren't new, but added informations about the venue and date that I think were unknown before:

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"Good Old Fritz" (Javier B. Pacheco) belongs to the first phase of this group, which later dropped the name to just "Fritz." Recorded at Action Recorders in San Mateo Dec 1968, on lead vocals is Lindsey Buckingham with Stevie Nicks and author on background vocals.
Slideshow: Javier B. Pacheco

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Lindsey Buckingham sings lead while Stevie Nicks and Javier Pacheco sing background. Recorded at Action Recorders, San Mateo, Dec 1968.

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Stevie Nicks sings "Wondering Why" (Javier Pacheco) with the first phase of the Fritz Rabyne Memorial Band, recorded at Action Recorders, San Mateo, CA December 1968. Lindsey Buckingham (guitar), Brian Kane (bass), Bob Aguirre (drums), and Javier Pacheco (Hohner Clavinet). Slideshow edit by Javier Pacheco.

SisterNightroad

03-03-2015, 08:01 AM

nicole21290

03-07-2015, 01:30 AM

And he's just posted 'Whirlpool', another one I don't think we've heard before.

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Recorded at Action Recorders, San Mateo, CA Dec of 1968.

Lindsey Buckingham on lead vocal and bass, Brian Kane on Guitar, Bob Aguirre on drums, Javier Pacheco on Vox organ, and Stevie Nicks on cowbell. The first phase of the Fritz Rabyne Memorial Band.

Slides by Google Images. Slideshow by Javier Pacheco

skuncles

03-07-2015, 05:50 AM

The 1991 re-recording of "Silver Springs"

She never re-recorded the song. She wanted the 1976 version for TimeSpace. Mick said no, because Warner Bros. Wanted it to be one of the highlights of the upcoming box set. The reason given as to why she couldn't haveit was because the RECORDING is a Fleetwood Mac song, not a Stevie solo track.
People get recordings and publishing confused. Sony, Michael Jackson and Paul McCartney own the Beatles publishing, Capitol records owns the recordings. If you retain publishing rights you get paid whenever someone records your songs. The label you recorded for usually, not always, maintains the master tapes and can do with them whatever they want, release endless best of's, put them on soundtracks etc.

aleuzzi

03-07-2015, 02:22 PM

These Fritz recordings are appreciated, thanks! It really gives us a sense of where SN/LB were at that time. You can hear Mamas and the Papas in their vocals, even with all of the acid-rock musical backdrop. Javier's sings, though well made, do not fit their sound very easily. Stevie sounds more at home than Lindsey does.

aleuzzi

03-07-2015, 02:23 PM

FuzzyPlum

03-07-2015, 07:35 PM

I would love to hear all of these.

Most of these were Eddy Quintela co-writes.

We Were Lonely (Todd Sharp);
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2w99UaRCzI

PenguinHead

03-07-2015, 10:51 PM

Most of these were Eddy Quintela co-writes.

We Were Lonely (Todd Sharp);
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2w99UaRCzI

How is this information (song titles) obtained? Are theses credible sources?

In which years were the Eddy Quintela songs registered? I assume that many of these songs/titles have been written, but not necessarily recorded, or exist demo form.

FuzzyPlum

03-08-2015, 05:15 AM

How is this information (song titles) obtained? Are theses credible sources?

In which years were the Eddy Quintela songs registered? I assume that many of these songs/titles have been written, but not necessarily recorded, or exist demo form.

I don't know where the original poster Johnny Stew took these from.
Most (though not all) are copyright registered through BMI (originally in the early 1990's I think);

http://repertoire.bmi.com/writer.asp?page=1&blnWriter=True&blnPublisher=True&blnArtist=True&fromrow=1&torow=25&affiliation=BMI&cae=71596558&keyID=227307&keyname=MC%20VIE%20CHRISTINE&querytype=WriterID

Hooked is written with Billy Burnette

I'd guess the Eddy Quintela songs probably reached various different stages of completion.

nicole21290

03-13-2015, 08:18 PM

SisterNightroad

03-19-2015, 04:26 PM

nicole21290

03-20-2015, 01:28 AM

Sanne2

03-20-2015, 05:26 AM

Is he just randomly smashing keys in google images to find pics for his videos?

nicole21290

03-22-2015, 05:27 PM

nicole21290

04-04-2015, 09:59 PM

seanthompson

04-05-2015, 06:43 PM

Could Stevies' "My Mothers' Ring" surface on the new album?

SisterNightroad

05-28-2015, 02:51 PM

SisterNightroad

06-01-2015, 01:49 PM

SisterNightroad

02-04-2017, 11:45 AM

Circa a week ago Javier Pacheco posted some Fritz material again:

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The Fritz Rabyne Memorial Band (Fritz) performs a Javier Pacheco composition performed @ Aragon High School, San Mateo, CA (1970); opening for The Youngbloods.
Stevie Nicks (lead vocal); Lindsey Buckingham (bass/background vocals); Javier Pacheco (keyboards/background vocals); Brian Kane (lead guitar); Bob Aguirre (Drums).

The Power
(Javier Pacheco)

When I saw Jesus, I was so long involved
in my own little selfish games, of yes I was!
After I saw Jesus, and the light shined in,
I knew my life would never be the same.

The Power! I could not believe!
The Power Nobody could believe,
When they nailed Him, down to that cross!

The Power! That you bring,
The Power! Love is the only thing
that can save us, save us,
save us, let it save us!

Don't let it go down the drain,
Don't let it go down-wow--wow,
Don't let it go down the drain,
Don't let it go down--wow.

The Power! I could not believe!
The Power Nobody could believe,
When they nailed Him, down to that cross!

The Power! That you bring,
The Power! Love is the only thing
that can save us, save us,
save us, let it save us!

Don't let it go down the drain,
Don't let it go down-wow--wow,
Don't let it go down the drain,
Don't let it go down--wow.
Don't let it go down the drain,
Don't let it go down-wow--wow,
Don't let it go down the drain,
Don't let it go down--...down.

When you see Jesus,
There'll be a smile on your face,
And a feeling, that time can't erase, oh let 'em try!
After you see Jesus, you let that light shine on in,
You know your life will never be, . . . the same,
Never be the same, it will never be the same,
It will never be the same,
It will never be the same,
It will never, . . . be the . . . same!

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The Fritz Rabyne Memorial Band (Fritz) performs a Javier Pacheco composition performed @ Aragon High School, San Mateo, CA (1970); opening for The Youngbloods.
Stevie Nicks (lead vocal); Lindsey Buckingham (bass/background vocals); Javier Pacheco (keyboards/background vocals); Brian Kane (lead guitar); Bob Aguirre (Drums).

Slide Show: Javier Pacheco

FLAMES
(Javier Pacheco)

The great . . .
Summer grass fire!
great, great Summer grass fire!
sparking the flames of the
The great . . .
Summer grass fire!
great, great Summer grass fire!
sparking the flames . . .
Of frustration of the young
with the backlash of the old
who don't understand
who don't give a damn
they're trying to seek control!
Limitations on your body,
limitations on your soul,
while the Dukes and the Deans
and the jerks in between
keep the scramble up for gold!

Try to survive (determine your own life)
Try baby to survive, I know you can!
(Determine your own life)

(Instrumental Solos)

Try to survive (determine your own life)
Try baby to survive, I know you can!
(Determine your own life)

SisterNightroad

03-15-2017, 12:49 PM

Lindsey Buckingham: Eulogy (Javier Pacheco) Fritz

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Fritz Rabyne Memorial Band at Fremont High School, Sunnyvale, CA circa 1969. Featuring Stevie Nicks (backgrd vocals), Javier Pacheco (keyboards & backgrd vocals), Brian Kane (lead guitar), Bob Aguirre (drums), and Lindsey Buckingham (lead vocal and bass).

Phil

03-15-2017, 07:07 PM

I seem to recall reading in 1991 that Stevie had re-recorded “Silver Springs” with the band Venice. This has never been confirmed by Stevie or Venice so I don’t know if it occurred or not.

Phil

03-15-2017, 07:08 PM

PS I'm assuming the Christine track mentioned earlier on - "I Believe, I Believe" - is "Where We Belong"?

SisterNightroad

03-17-2017, 04:49 PM

Lindsey Buckingham: Time Ago (Javier Pacheco) with Stevie Nicks

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Stevie Nicks: Next Time Around (Javier Pacheco) w/Lindsey Buckingham

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Following the breakup of Fritz, around Spring of 1971, Stevie and Lindsey came over for an afternoon visit to my home in Menlo Park. It turned out to be a very enjoyable and creative time for the three of us!
I shared some material I had written, and they were gracious enough to help me out with the vocals and guitar. We recorded this song on a commercial Sony reel-to-reel Recorder, with Linds as engineer, using "Sound-on-Sound" to overdub our voices and instrumental parts. I am very grateful to Stevie and Lindsey for their ideas and contributions, proud of Stevie's inspired vocal and Lindsey's creative guitar work on this sweet, melancholy tune. Thanks, S&L!!

Next Time Around
(Javier Pacheco 1971)

We’ll be waiting
across the border
there won’t be time to hold on,
or show the way to the others
Next Time Around
Next Time Around

Friendship Gardens
Australia fairs
bring your sense of awareness
if you plan to be there,
Next Time Around
Next Time Around

Oh, God knows when
the final changes
will come and wash us like the tides
a wild stampede of creatures fleeing
with the coming of the Ides

And the glory, I tried in vain
you can tell your story,
it will sound the same,
when we were proud
when we were proud;

You can leave me
or you can love me
you don’t need to hold on
you don’t have to feel sorry
Next Time Around
Next Time Around

Oh, God knows when
the final changes
will come and wash us like the tides
a wild stampede of creatures fleeing
with the coming of the Ides

We’ll be waiting
across the border
there won’t be time to hold on,
or show the way to the others
Next Time Around
Next Time Around

Stevie Nicks: You There (Buffalo Springfield) Fritz

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Fritz Rabyne Memorial Band at Fremont High School, Sunnyvale, CA circa 1969. Featuring Stevie Nicks (lead vocals), Javier Pacheco (keyboards & bckgrd vocals), Brian Kane (lead guitar), Bob Aguirre (drums), and Lindsey Buckingham (bckgrd vocals and bass).