Which Demos Will Make the Cut for the New Solo Record?

[jkmaletic]

Now that we know there are 17 of 25 demos recorded, which ones do you guys think will be on the new release? Stevie said they were found on YouTube (which I guess saved Lori a trip to the old Arizona Vault ;))

Jamie

[Aussie W/Heart]

24 Karat
Julia
At The Fair
All The Beautiful Worlds
Forest of the black roses
IYWML
China Doll
Blue Water

[pattyfan]

Much as I love Stevie's songs, I do also think that her best songwriting days are behind her, so I would be very happy if any of those old demos made it onto the new disc. My picks would be...

Space Needle (such a dark song but I dearly love it)
Watchdevil
China Doll
Blue Water

Here's to hoping... :) :)

Kevin

[jkmaletic]

I can only count on one hand how many demos I've listened to of hers, but I just now listened to the "Julia" outtake on YouTube and WOW. I love it!!

(... now going off to listen to the rest you guys are listing :))

[BlueDenimLamp]

I don't know how I feel about this...Some of her old demos are priceless (China Doll, Forest Of The Black Roses and others) if they can turn out the way "Crystal" did when Stevie re-recorded it then this new record could be great...If Stevie is going to start recording old songs I think she should re-record ALL of her FM songs it could be a huge seller...And while she's at it a couple "standards" albums wouldn't hurt...If Stevie recorded a "Standards" album and toured with Rod Stewart again it could be very profitable for her...If Stevie want's to do any of this she's got to put Fleetwood Mac to bed ...Do a FM farewell tour and then go on a recording spree...The clock is ticking Stevie do you want to do a bunch of cash grab tours or do something worthwhile...The choice is yours...

[Jondalar]

No wonder Dave described the album as Classic Stevie Nicks.

[wheart]

Much as I love Stevie's songs, I do also think that her best songwriting days are behind her, so I would be very happy if any of those old demos made it onto the new disc. My picks would be...

Space Needle (such a dark song but I dearly love it)
Watchdevil
China Doll
Blue Water

Here's to hoping... :) :)

Kevin

China Doll, Blue Water and Three Birds of Rhiannon are my top pics. Such beautiful songs.

[louielouie2000]

I don't know how I feel about this...Some of her old demos are priceless...

I have incredibly mixed feelings as well. My inner fanboy is giddy. My pragmatic side is panicking. I was not terribly pleased with the way Smile At You or Lady From The Mountain (Moonlight) turned out. Don't get me wrong, if I'd never heard the demos, I'd think each song was fantastic. However, each finished song lost the magic quality the original demos contained. Even though Planets Of The Universe turned out great, would it have been better with a more classic vs electronic sound we ended up with? Possibly. I guess the thought of songs like If You Were My Love or Mirror Mirror being massacred is more upsetting than I care to admit.

Not to mention it's just a bit bizarre for me to swallow 65 year old Stevie recording an entire album of songs from her youth. Don't get me wrong, these songs are all from her golden songwriting era. But Stevie's in such a different place in her life these days. Plus, I hate to even go here... but there's a reason some of these songs never turned up on an album. :sorry:


If Stevie is going to start recording old songs I think she should re-record ALL of her FM songs it could be a huge seller...And while she's at it a couple "standards" albums wouldn't hurt...If Stevie recorded a "Standards" album and toured with Rod Stewart again it could be very profitable for her...If Stevie want's to do any of this she's got to put Fleetwood Mac to bed ...Do a FM farewell tour and then go on a recording spree...The clock is ticking Stevie do you want to do a bunch of cash grab tours or do something worthwhile...The choice is yours...

Can I take you out back & shoot you yet? :laugh:

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[wheart]

I have incredibly mixed feelings as well. My inner fanboy is giddy. My pragmatic side is panicking. I was not terribly pleased with the way Smile At You or Lady From The Mountain (Moonlight) turned out. Don't get me wrong, if I'd never heard the demos, I'd think each song was fantastic. However, each finished song lost the magic quality the original demos contained. Even though Planets Of The Universe turned out great, would it have been better with a more classic vs electronic sound we ended up with? Possibly. I guess the thought of songs like If You Were My Love or Mirror Mirror being massacred is more upsetting than I care to admit.

Not to mention it's just a bit bizarre for me to swallow 65 year old Stevie recording an entire album of songs from her youth. Don't get me wrong, these songs are all from her golden songwriting era. But Stevie's in such a different place in her life these days. Plus, I hate to even go here... but there's a reason some of these songs never turned up on an album. :sorry:



Can I take you out back & shoot you yet? :laugh:

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Well I'm going to try and pre judge this project based on things that have been done in the past with Stevie's demos. We have no idea what the sound of this record is going to be. I'm hoping for the best. It could suck. It could be glorious. Or fall somewhere in between.

[APerfectLie]

Mabel Normand please!!!!!

[WildHearted]

On the one hand, this is pretty cool because her demos are beloved among fans and it's kind of awesome that she realized that and is recording them. If they turn out well, this could be great, and something really nice to have.

However... on the other hand... one of the reasons I was so shocked/excited about the new album was because I couldn't believe that she had been writing that much. And now it turns out she hasn't and it's all old songs. Additionally, all of those songs were written when she had a very different vocal timbre and range so it will be interesting to see if she just goes for it vocally or if she alters them to fit her current voice. And there's a bit of a risk factor either way in that regard. So I don't know, I have mixed feelings.

[markolas]

I've never agreed with the idea that the demos are better than what was released. I find many of them interesting, but most of them aren't things that I'd listen to for enjoyment. And yes, there is a reason many of them never made it on an album.


A lot of them, though, definitely have potential and I'm dying to hear what they're like as fully produced songs.

The Rhiannon-related piano demos would be great to hear fleshed out. I can't imagine that "Julia" isn't among the ones recorded. I am really excited by this and I'm pleasantly surprised that she decided to do this. Dave must've talked her into it.

[Jondalar]

On the one hand, this is pretty cool because her demos are beloved among fans and it's kind of awesome that she realized that and is recording them. If they turn out well, this could be great, and something really nice to have.

However... on the other hand... one of the reasons I was so shocked/excited about the new album was because I couldn't believe that she had been writing that much. And now it turns out she hasn't and it's all old songs. Additionally, all of those songs were written when she had a very different vocal timbre and range so it will be interesting to see if she just goes for it vocally or if she alters them to fit her current voice. And there's a bit of a risk factor either way in that regard. So I don't know, I have mixed feelings.

I agree. I think that she is being good hearted. Very nice of her.

[TrueFaith77]

This is a great idea. All my frustration with Stevie has been washed away. I look forward to what she and Dave come up with. I hope it comes out before the Mac rehearsals.

[KarmaContestant]

My wish list; and I must say, this would be a dream come true. While I love these old demos, new versions would be absolutely welcome in my collection - it's not like I can't keep listening to the old ones if I like them better! I would really have loved to be looking over her shoulder while Stevie perused these old songs on YouTube - the memories must have prompted hours of reminiscing.


Starshine
Sanctuary
The Dealer
Baby Doll
All The King's Horses
Rich Old Lady (Mystical Love)
All the Beautiful Worlds
24 Karat
Forest of the Black Roses
Space Needle
Have No Heart
Forsaken Love
Blue Water
Belle Flower
She Loves Him Still


Extras I wouldn't mind:
Gypsy Beggar
Melacine
Chanel Chanel
Castaway
Jimmy Come Back (because Stevie should record another, final album with Jimmy)

[BlueLight]

Here's my 17-track wishlist. So excited beyond words to see what makes the cut!

The Dealer (Mistress Of My Fate)
One More Tomorrow
Julia
All The Beautiful Worlds
If You Were My Love (let's hope and pray she didn't listen to her SA outtake)
24 Karat Gold
Chanel Chanel
All The King's Horses
Belle Fleur
Starshine
Sanctuary
Foresaken Love
Baby Doll
She Calls You Missing
Forest Of The Black Roses
Have No Heart
Blue Water

[louielouie2000]

However... on the other hand... one of the reasons I was so shocked/excited about the new album was because I couldn't believe that she had been writing that much. And now it turns out she hasn't and it's all old songs...

Yeah, that was my initial reaction as well. Sadness that she didn't have anything new to share with the world. However, maybe she's just cleaning out all of the old material so she'll have a clean slate of new material to bring to the upcoming Mac album?

Additionally, all of those songs were written when she had a very different vocal timbre and range so it will be interesting to see if she just goes for it vocally or if she alters them to fit her current voice. And there's a bit of a risk factor either way in that regard. So I don't know, I have mixed feelings.

Yeah, this is a big worryfor me. Could she even pull off a song like Mirror Mirror anymore? I'm guessing that's one she'd probably avoid recording, anyway.

[jkmaletic]

Yeah, that was my initial reaction as well. Sadness that she didn't have anything new to share with the world. However, maybe she's just cleaning out all of the old material so she'll have a clean slate of new material to bring to the upcoming Mac album?



Yeah, this is a big worryfor me. Could she even pull off a song like Mirror Mirror anymore? I'm guessing that's one she'd probably avoid recording, anyway.

Fans have been wanting this, and she has them, so why not do them? It'd be a shame if they were never finished/recorded. And as someone else pointed out, there's always the original demos to listen to if you don't like how they turn out.
I do think she'll alter the vocal range from what they were, and that's ok.

Jamie

[Jondalar]

Yeah, that was my initial reaction as well. Sadness that she didn't have anything new to share with the world. However, maybe she's just cleaning out all of the old material so she'll have a clean slate of new material to bring to the upcoming Mac album?



Yeah, this is a big worryfor me. Could she even pull off a song like Mirror Mirror anymore? I'm guessing that's one she'd probably avoid recording, anyway.

Maybe the new songs are for the new Fleetwood Mac album. If that is so, how can anyone possibly complaint? We are getting the demos plus new songs.

[Dex]

I totally missed the part where the new album is strictly "from the vault". Hm. Works for me, I guess. I don't know her demos all that well so their reworkings never bother me as much as they do some.

It is disappointing in a way that she doesn't seem to be very prolific, but unsurprising. She'd always been very candid about the fact that her writing usually comes from unhappiness and emotional turmoil, and she seems to be very happy and content these days, so... yeah. Oh well.

To answer the question, who knows? Did anyone honestly see Secret Love coming? I do hope there are some demos that aren't known to fandom, though, so we don't see as much bemoaning of the production choices from people.

[BlueLight]

Maybe the new songs are for the new Fleetwood Mac album. If that is so, how can anyone possibly complaint? We are getting the demos plus new songs.

I've been wondering the same thing. I think we're getting the best of all worlds here, and could not be more excited.

[WildHearted]

I'm apparently in the minority in that I don't like Joan of Arc. Melodically and lyrically it's kind of a mess that never goes anywhere, to me. "Turn to the wall baby" is even worse than "What's the matter baby" in my book.

I DO like the feel of the FM recording - I love the drums and percussion, and that little sitar-like riff thing. But like I said, can't stand the song itself. So if they could take the instrumentation FM did and expand on that w/ some structural variation and write a different song inside of it... :lol:

[Johnny Stew]

I've been pretty thrilled with the way all of Stevie's "vaulted" songs have come out (I even really loved the arrangement Lindsey gave "Smile At You"). So luckily I don't have any concerns about this. Though I can certainly understand why some of us might. These demos and outtakes have been as treasured and well-loved by Stevie's fans as her most famous songs are.

I'm hoping for:

Julia
The Dealer
If You Were My Love
She Still Loves Him
Something Exquisite
Belle Fleur
Forest of the Black Roses
All The Beautiful Worlds
Mirror Mirror
Space Needle

[Johnny Stew]

The Rhiannon-related piano demos would be great to hear fleshed out.

When Dave tweeted the pic of him and Waddy at the mixing board, Stevie's "Rhiannon" painting was propped up on the console. So I'm willing to bet you're right about some of those "Rhiannon" demos making their way onto this album!

[AnthonyMI]

Mirror Mirror


. It was released, officially, as a B side. I doubt she would release it again unless it was on a collection of B sides and outtakes.


Side note: someone found out that the version released was the WRONG finished version. The version released was a finished version from Rock a Little, and the one that was SUPPOSED to be released from during Street Angel was not seen or really known about until a couple years ago. Both were great, and very remarkably similar for being recorded so far apart in terms of "pre-Betty" and "near post Klonapin"

[gssmith]

I knew it! I knew it! When I heard she was making a solo album I thought it would be a good idea to dig up all her old demos and thought she would. I didn't believe she had enough new material to make a whole new album already and some left for the Mac. Maybe newly written songs and those demos that didn't make the cut will be given to the band. Not that the demos are worthless but just because one producer can't make anything out of one doesn't mean another can't make it great.
I'm not too familiar with the demos. I've seen some on YouTube but never looked into a way to put them on my I pod. I'm sure there is a way but I've got better things to do, as much as I love her. All I know is that Planets, sorcerer, moonlight, and the others that have come out in recent years are great

[bombaysaffires]

ooh I forgot about Forsaken Love and it's one of my faves!

I'll add that to my list of
Birds of Rhiannon
Forest of the Black Roses
She Loves HIm Still
Have No Heart
Joan of Arc

Not sure dave can beat the FM version of Joan tho.

Not sure she has the range for China Doll's high notes anymore; and Blue Water, while I love what IS there, isn't finished or lyrically full enough for a releasable song. Too repetitive.

Have No Heart is a bit of a guilty pleasure; the version I've heard is very 80's production values and dated but if it were a bit less synth-y it could be great, it could have a vibe not unlike You Can't Fix This but with better lyrics.

Too bad most of her really old demos were just recorded straight onto cassettes; the ones she did in the studio could easily be buffed up ever so slightly and released in demo form. She'd never do that but that would be MY dream… to get great quality versions of the demos themselves. :shrug:

[Jondalar]

I have incredibly mixed feelings as well. My inner fanboy is giddy. My pragmatic side is panicking. I was not terribly pleased with the way Smile At You or Lady From The Mountain (Moonlight) turned out. Don't get me wrong, if I'd never heard the demos, I'd think each song was fantastic. However, each finished song lost the magic quality the original demos contained. Even though Planets Of The Universe turned out great, would it have been better with a more classic vs electronic sound we ended up with? Possibly. I guess the thought of songs like If You Were My Love or Mirror Mirror being massacred is more upsetting than I care to admit.

Not to mention it's just a bit bizarre for me to swallow 65 year old Stevie recording an entire album of songs from her youth. Don't get me wrong, these songs are all from her golden songwriting era. But Stevie's in such a different place in her life these days. Plus, I hate to even go here... but there's a reason some of these songs never turned up on an album. :sorry:




Can I take you out back & shoot you yet? :laugh:

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There are demos that I don't like either and about 7 songs I do want made. However, I'm sure Dave will add his creativity into the mix so mabye we will get something special. I'm expecting a lot of songs to turn out better.

I just think Stevie is incredibly generous for doing this. She is doing this for her fans. She is a flawed person like we are all but she does care that gives her fans something back. Makes me think more of her. :)

[Johnny Stew]

. It was released, officially, as a B side. I doubt she would release it again unless it was on a collection of B sides and outtakes.

That's a good point. Just seems to me like a "forgotten" song that she might want to revisit, but I'm sure you're right that it wouldn't have even been in the running since it has been released.

[keineg]

for me...

The Dealer - and basically, repeatedly recorded 17 times... would make me happy.



Also - Gold & Braid - that was never released as a proper studio track, was it? I know the live version is good enough - but still, it was only ever a live recording.

[SpyNote]

Yeah, that was my initial reaction as well. Sadness that she didn't have anything new to share with the world. However, maybe she's just cleaning out all of the old material so she'll have a clean slate of new material to bring to the upcoming Mac album?

This sounds logical. It's clear that Stevie has finally found someone else, besides Lindsey or Jimmy Iovine, who can produce her work, so she's probably killing two birds with one stone by getting her solo material queued up alongside three or four songs for Fleetwood Mac.

[BombaySapphire3]

for me...

The Dealer - and basically, repeatedly recorded 17 times... would make me happy.



Also - Gold & Braid - that was never released as a proper studio track, was it? I know the live version is good enough - but still, it was only ever a live recording.

It does mention that some of the songs may have been done live so Gold &Braid is a possibility.Also she mentioned after the 2013 tour that she may start working on the "Rhiannon project" again ..it could be that she finally gave up on it after all these decades and rolled those songs on to this album.

[louielouie2000]

Also - Gold & Braid - that was never released as a proper studio track, was it? I know the live version is good enough - but still, it was only ever a live recording.

I've wondered if songs like Gold & Braid, Garbo, Joan Of Arc, etc are fair game, too. Honestly, I'll be pretty pleased with anything she records as long as she's the songwriter. :)

I'll hope for: If You Were My Love, Mirror Mirror, Forest Of The Black Roses, All The Beautiful Worlds... and to a lesser degree Space Needle (she'll probably never, ever release that one as amazing as it is), Melacine (is it too short?), Joan Of Arc (it should be a Mac song)... and to an even lesser degree Julia, The Dealer, & Sanctuary.

If she's really recording nothing but old demos for the album, it'll be the love letter to her hardcore fans that we've all been waiting for for decades, for sure.

[BombaySapphire3]

Garbo..is a completed and released studio track..the B-side of the Stand Back hit single..I don't think we'll be seeing any of those songs on the new album.

[wondergirl9847]

Some of her demos from the past...I am totally in love with (Forest of the Black Roses, The Dealer (well, some of the 1,000's of versions recorded anyway. LOL), Space Needle, Three Birds of Rhiannon....and on and on.

That said, it will be interesting to hear her aged voice on these songs. So, hey, it's a win-win because we have the demos, which we've all listened to countless times and then, we'll have fresh, new takes on these songs.

Pretty neat. :)

I'm DYING for the FM album though. I NEED!! I NEEED!!!! :laugh:

[BlueDenimLamp]

for me...



Also - Gold & Braid - that was never released as a proper studio track, was it? I know the live version is good enough - but still, it was only ever a live recording.

There's a never released studio version of "Gold And Braid" not to mention the live version was on the "Enchanted" box set...

[jcfree]

When I read here that Stevie is doing an album of her demos from the vault, I was floored! Thought this would never come to be! I am beyond thrilled with this news. She totally trusts Dave Stewart to bring these demos full circle and complete them. Since working with him on IYD she has been rejuvenated with creating music, she is so out there, on Glee, Coven, so many collaborations with other singers, she is working it! She is reaping the rewards of her efforts and people are discovering her for the first time or rediscovering her. So happy for her! My wish list of demos for this new album:

Blue Water
Three Birds of Rhiannon
Forest of The Black Roses
Space Needle
The Dealer
Sanctuary
All The Beautiful Worlds
City of Hope
Melacine
Christian
Gold and Braid

[WildHearted]

for me...

The Dealer - and basically, repeatedly recorded 17 times... would make me happy.


:laugh:

Me too, really.

Although I'd also love China Doll, If You Were My Love, and Knockin' on Doors.

To be honest, there are a LOT of Stevie demos (that have yet to be released officially) that I don't care to listen to and am kind of glad they never made it onto any albums :sorry:. However, the demos of hers that I do enjoy, I enjoy a lot. I think there are some definite gems in there. Hopefully these new versions will not only do all of her demos justice, but improve upon them.

[KarmaContestant]

I just think Stevie is incredibly generous for doing this. She is doing this for her fans. She is a flawed person like we are all but she does care that gives her fans something back. Makes me think more of her. :)

This. This is so important. Stevie isn't recording these demos because she's got nothing better to do, or because she's having writers block, or because she has nothing current to tell us. She's recording these songs out of love for her fans, and honestly, it's about time. For years she preferred to maintain some sense of mystery and indignation about her demos, and it's nice that she's finally turning to the web to see what we have and what we love - and giving it back to us.

[tothegypsy]

I think She Loves Him Still could be a modest hit for her even today.

[mitzo]

for me...

The Dealer - and basically, repeatedly recorded 17 times... would make me happy.



Also - Gold & Braid - that was never released as a proper studio track, was it? I know the live version is good enough - but still, it was only ever a live recording.

Oh god, no. Please.

[markolas]

I guess it's safe to say that "24 Karat Gold" is for certain one of the songs, since that's what they're tentatively calling the album. "Gold & Braid" is the only unreleased song that she's performed live. A current studio version could be interesting.

I never liked "The Dealer" that much, but she and Dave could've done something great with it.

[BlueDenimLamp]

Oh god, no. Please.

Would you prefer "Cathouse Blues"?

[Jondalar]

Are You Mine would make a really good country duet.

[Jondalar]

My Choices

1. Three Birds of Rhiannon (I hope she gets rid of the dark lord of death line but love this song)
2. Love You Enough (my love is never lost)
3. Cecilia (it's very Tusk, atmospheric mood piece)
4. China Doll
5. Forest of Black Roses
6. All the Beautiful Worlds
7. Blue Water
8. Have No Heart ( love the moody darkness of this song)
9. Are You Mine (great country duet!)
10. Anybody Out There? (Anybody anywhere?)

[gldstwmn]

Now that we know there are 17 of 25 demos recorded, which ones do you guys think will be on the new release? Stevie said they were found on YouTube (which I guess saved Lori a trip to the old Arizona Vault ;))

Jamie

I think that there's a way to see which songs are her most popular demos on Youtube? The smart money would be on the songs with the most hits on Youtube.

[AliceLover]

I bet they went right to 'Flamingcrystal's' video page considering that's where they found Secret Love....

[Jondalar]

I think that there's a way to see which songs are her most popular demos on Youtube? The smart money would be on the songs with the most hits on Youtube.

probably,
24 Karat
castaway
three birds
Julia
the dealer
blue water
at the fair
watchchain

all her funky stuff with lots of youtube hits, hoping for some obscure stuff

[markolas]

As best as I can tell, these all have 10,000+ views:

Blue Water
Baby Doll
Space Needle
The Dealer
Gold and Braid
Castaway
24 Karat Gold
All the Beautiful Worlds
All These Years
She Still Loves Him
Have No Heart
Maker of Birds
Mistaken Love
Watchdevil
All the King's Horses
Forest of the Black Roses

"Blue Water" appears to have the most views, by far, with 150,000+

[gldstwmn]

Here are the top 25 on Youtube by views:

1. Blue Water
2. All These Years
3. She Still Loves Him
4. Have No Heart
5. Three Birds of Rhiannon
6. Space Needle
7. Mistaken Love
8. Watch Devil
9. 24 Karat Gold
10. The Dealer
11. Castaway
12.All The King's Horses
13. Forest of the Black Roses
14. All Over You
15. All The Beautiful Worlds
16. Night Gallery
17. At The Fair
18. Belle Flower
19. Julia
20. Prettiest Girl In The World
21. China Doll
22. Joan of Arc
23. Love and War
24. You Like Me
25. Rockabye Baby

[markolas]

I'm surprised "Sanctuary" isn't one of the most-viewed ones. Wasn't that the most widely circulated demo/outtake at one time?

[gldstwmn]

I'm surprised "Sanctuary" isn't one of the most-viewed ones. Wasn't that the most widely circulated demo/outtake at one time?

Very much so. Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers make that track IMO. Some of the choices in that top 25 I posted were a bit surprising to me anyway.

[StreetAngel86]

which demos do i WANT to make the cut :p

Something Exquisite
Forest of the Black Roses
Prettiest Girl in the World
Beautiful Ghost
Space Needle
All the Beautiful Worlds
Blue Water

HAVE NO HEART ... :xoxo::xoxo::xoxo:


ETA: JOAN OF FREAKING ARC OMG YES

:D:D:D

[StreetAngel86]

However... on the other hand... one of the reasons I was so shocked/excited about the new album was because I couldn't believe that she had been writing that much. And now it turns out she hasn't and it's all old songs. Additionally, all of those songs were written when she had a very different vocal timbre and range so it will be interesting to see if she just goes for it vocally or if she alters them to fit her current voice. And there's a bit of a risk factor either way in that regard. So I don't know, I have mixed feelings.


see, i know i'm in the low, low, loooooooooooooooooooooow minority here, but i prefer Stevie's current vocal to that of years gone by. sorry, i just don't like 70s/early 80s Stevie!voice. I think some of these demos would be wild re-recorded with current!Stevie!voice. However, I also think, because so many of us have so many favorites and some of these demos are just utter perfection in their raw states, some of us are probably going to be very disappointed regardless of how they turn out, whether her voice is old school or current.

[In Your Dreams]

City of Hope
Sanctuary
Prettiest Girl in the World
All the Beautiful Worlds
The Dealer
Love and War (Mix Down)

[Macfanforever]

Are You Mine would make a really good country duet.

I agree.With who.

[sorcerer999]

"Blue Water" appears to have the most views, by far, with 150,000+

If she records "Blue Water" and does a kick ass job with it, I will die a happy man!!!

[Macfanforever]

If she records "Blue Water" and does a kick ass job with it, I will die a happy man!!!

Yes .I hope it makes the album.

[BlueLight]

Here's my 17-track wishlist. So excited beyond words to see what makes the cut!

The Dealer (Mistress Of My Fate)
One More Tomorrow
Julia
All The Beautiful Worlds
If You Were My Love (let's hope and pray she didn't listen to her SA outtake)
24 Karat Gold
Chanel Chanel
All The King's Horses
Belle Fleur
Starshine
Sanctuary
Foresaken Love
Baby Doll
She Calls You Missing
Forest Of The Black Roses
Have No Heart
Blue Water

Just realized that I completely forgot about Night Gallery and Love You Enough. Far too many songs for just one album!

[michelej1]

I bet they went right to 'Flamingcrystal's' video page considering that's where they found Secret Love....

We used to joke about her vault in Arizona. Now Youtube is the vault.

Michele

[BlueLight]

We used to joke about her vault in Arizona. Now Youtube is the vault.

Michele

Glad that Stevie was able to save Lori the trip! ;)

[tlssln]

Would you prefer "Cathouse Blues"?


I would. It's one of the best. But I hope she doesn't do Goldfish and Ladybug. LOL.

[tlssln]

Are You Mine would make a really good country duet.

That's a good one for her to include.

[tlssln]

Here are the top 25 on Youtube by views:

1. Blue Water
2. All These Years
3. She Still Loves Him
4. Have No Heart
5. Three Birds of Rhiannon
6. Space Needle
7. Mistaken Love
8. Watch Devil
9. 24 Karat Gold
10. The Dealer
11. Castaway
12.All The King's Horses
13. Forest of the Black Roses
14. All Over You
15. All The Beautiful Worlds
16. Night Gallery
17. At The Fair
18. Belle Flower
19. Julia
20. Prettiest Girl In The World
21. China Doll
22. Joan of Arc
23. Love and War
24. You Like Me
25. Rockabye Baby

Now I'm going to have to go Watch Julia several thousand times so it moves up the list.

[sorcerer999]

1. Blue Water
2. Mistaken (Forsaken) Love
3. Night Gallery (in the paintings on the wall, she says, "There it is!")
4. If You Were My Love
5. 24 Karat Gold (I guess this one is a given)
6. Watch Devil (touching fingers through the kitchen lace...)
7. China Doll
8. Space Needle
9. Love You Enough
10. Joan Of Arc (kind of agree with most of you that this should be a Mac song, though)
11. Sanctuary (this one could be epic if done right)

That's all I can think of at the moment. I'm not in front of my collection so I'm sure there are a lot more I love but can't remember at the moment. Old man syndrome.

Also, even though I adore "Julia", I can't imagine any "re-do" being better than Take 9 of the "Bella Donna" sessions. That one is GOLD for me...and any new version would most likely pale in comparison. Just my two cents. :)

[jeffd8382]

I was just replying to another thread about what if they were to release a deluxe edition that had a bonus disc with the original demos remastered - I wonder if this idea would affect which demos any of us wish would make the new record as new recordings! :nod:

[vivfox]

Here are the top 25 on Youtube by views:

1. Blue Water
2. All These Years
3. She Still Loves Him
4. Have No Heart
5. Three Birds of Rhiannon
6. Space Needle
7. Mistaken Love
8. Watch Devil
9. 24 Karat Gold
10. The Dealer
11. Castaway
12.All The King's Horses
13. Forest of the Black Roses
14. All Over You
15. All The Beautiful Worlds
16. Night Gallery
17. At The Fair
18. Belle Flower
19. Julia
20. Prettiest Girl In The World
21. China Doll
22. Joan of Arc
23. Love and War
24. You Like Me
25. Rockabye Baby

OMG, Baby Doll didn't make the cut. I want that soooo bad.

[vivfox]

[QUOTE=sorcerer999;1130027That's all I can think of at the moment. I'm not in front of my collection so I'm sure there are a lot more I love but can't remember at the moment. Old man syndrome.

Also, even though I adore "Julia", I can't imagine any "re-do" being better than Take 9 of the "Bella Donna" sessions. That one is GOLD for me...and any new version would most likely pale in comparison. Just my two cents. :)
[/QUOTE]
I like the Take 12 version the best. LOL

[vivfox]

I hope she records and releases:
Blue Water
Baby Doll
Bell Flower
Forest of the Black Roses
Julia
The Dealer
All the Beautiful Worlds
I Call You Missing
Something Exquisite
Love and War
Cecelia
Have No Heart
24 Karat Gold
Smile At You (angry version)
Sanctuary
If You Were My Love
Mistaken Love
Prettiest Girl in the World

[Justlikethesea]

see, i know i'm in the low, low, loooooooooooooooooooooow minority here, but i prefer Stevie's current vocal to that of years gone by. sorry, i just don't like 70s/early 80s Stevie!voice. I think some of these demos would be wild re-recorded with current!Stevie!voice. However, I also think, because so many of us have so many favorites and some of these demos are just utter perfection in their raw states, some of us are probably going to be very disappointed regardless of how they turn out, whether her voice is old school or current.

I always thought, that I'm the only, who prefers older Stevie's voice. Nice to know I'm not alone :xoxo:

Regarding her mother's dead, I'm pretty sure 'All These Years" will make the cut. I'm also hoping for

Forest Of The Black Roses
Three Birds Of Rhiannon
Space Needle (although I doubt it)
China Doll
Sanctuary
She Loves Him Still
The Dealer

[Japhry]

Properly Produced-the first single could be "All The Beautiful Worlds".......follow up singles could definitely be "The Dealer", "At the Fair" AND "You Like Me":nod:

[wildheart048]

My wish list:

24KGold (I'm assuming this one is a given here)
Are You Mine
What Has Rock And Roll Ever Done For You
Julia
Forest Of The Black Roses
Goldfish And Lady Bug (sorry, but I love it)
Three Birds Of Rhiannon
Watch Devil
Rich Old Lady
Something Exquisite
Amber
Baby Doll
All The Beautiful Worlds
Cecilia
Old Fashioned
Jimmy Come Back
Joan Of Arc
Spinning Wheels/Christian
If You Were My Love
Love and War/Mixdown

[KenshiMaster16]

In no particular order....

01 24 Karat Gold
02 Gold And Braid
03 All The Beautiful Worlds
04 Julia
05 The Dealer
06 Forest Of The Black Roses
07 Mirror Mirror (yes, I know it was 'released' but I'd love an updated version)
08 Watch Devil
09 All The King's Horses
10 Have No Heart
11 Space Needle
12 If You Were My Love
13 Three Birds
14 Blue Water

...and then I'm assuming she'll probably take the scraps to Lindsey and be all like "What about these for the Mac album?" lol

However, if she records Rock And Roll or I Need To Know, I'll gladly rage and set fire to something.

[Jondalar]

I was listening to more of her demos and I want Joan of Arc, Mistaken Love and Julie also. Lots of atmosphere.

[kathy1]

can't wait to hear the cd.

[AnthonyMI]

you all need to lower your expectations... or else you are going to be SO disappointed when you find out that the Single is...


wait for it....



The Tragedy of Ones Own Soul with guest artist Kenny G!


NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

Also included. "Lilly Girl" and three remixes of Silver Girl, and Jane.

[On Ice]

This is such great news and I think we're all in for a real treat here. ;)

Here's my "prediction" and I'll even go for sequencing, say the cd will have 15 songs:

24 Karat Gold (they will do a great keyboard influenced take on this promising demo)
Julia (she will sing this in a beautiful soft tone, like Goodbye Baby/Moonlight)
The Dealer (The Heartbreakers will make a surprise guest appearance)
If you were my Love
Three Birds of Rhiannon (as with Julia we'll get a great vocal)
Have No Heart
All the Beautiful Worlds
Watch Devil (the keeper of time is blind)
See the World go By (Amber) at least one of the Fritz Demos will make it, I could even see possibly combining the two into one song(?)
Cathouse Blues (she will do a killer modern version of this tune)
Space Needle (out of the great batch of tunes she wrote for TISL)
China Doll
Baby Doll
Mirror Mirror (Or, I call you Missing) completing the better known Rock a Little Demos after doing Greta, Running Through the Garden and Love is Like a River
Blue Water (I'll take a bet that this will close out the collection)

I can't see the Tango demos making the cut, but who knows :shrug:

[StreetAngel86]

I always thought, that I'm the only, who prefers older Stevie's voice. Nice to know I'm not alone :xoxo:


You're never alone in FANdom :laugh:
welcome to the club!

[gldstwmn]

you all need to lower your expectations... or else you are going to be SO disappointed when you find out that the Single is...


wait for it....



The Tragedy of Ones Own Soul with guest artist Kenny G!


NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

Also included. "Lilly Girl" and three remixes of Silver Girl, and Jane.

Actually I'd take that deal if it included Dial The Number.

[SpyNote]

Greta, Running Through the Garden and Love is Like a River

Even though she recorded and released them, I feel like they need a re-do with Dave's production. While I'm at it, she should re-record both TOSOTM and Street Angel! :laugh:

[BlueDenimLamp]

Even though she recorded and released them, I feel like they need a re-do with Dave's production. While I'm at it, she should re-record both TOSOTM and Street Angel! :laugh:

Stevie should re-record ALL her FM songs...Not because anything is wrong with them but just to have an updated version and all on one album...I think a collection of modern versions of her FM songs would do quite well...

[louielouie2000]

Stevie should re-record ALL her FM songs...Not because anything is wrong with them but just to have an updated version and all on one album...I think a collection of modern versions of her FM songs would do quite well...

Why on earth do you want this? We already have those songs on CD. We hear modern renditions of them all the time- that's what concerts & concert DVD/CDs like Soundstage are for.

Bob Welch did the whole reinterpretation of his classic songs, too... and honestly, I thought it was awful & kinda sad artistically. To me it says you have nothing left creatively, so let's just cash in on the old glory once again. Since Stevie is still releasing new, original music she should keep following that muse. Just my two cents. :)

[DashingDan]

Good one! You made me laugh out loud referencing the anti-gem TToOOS.




you all need to lower your expectations... or else you are going to be SO disappointed when you find out that the Single is...


wait for it....



The Tragedy of Ones Own Soul with guest artist Kenny G!


NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

Also included. "Lilly Girl" and three remixes of Silver Girl, and Jane.

[Johnny Stew]

Also included. "Lilly Girl" and three remixes of Silver Girl, and Jane.

If she releases "Lily Girl," I may have to put my entire collection up for sale. That's an atrocity that I just couldn't stand for.

[Bandon]

I'd be surprised if she releases any of her Rhiannon-related songs on the new album. I figure she'll save them for never to be released Rhiannon album and the never to be produced Rhiannon movie. :laugh:

Also, I think Stevie may have owed the record company an album and didn't have much decent new material for them so she went into the vaults. I'm glad she's releasing the vault songs, but would have preferred fresh new material with some re-recorded demos. Hopefully she has some kick-ass new music for the FM release.

[sodascouts]

I have incredibly mixed feelings as well. My inner fanboy is giddy. My pragmatic side is panicking. I was not terribly pleased with the way Smile At You or Lady From The Mountain (Moonlight) turned out. Don't get me wrong, if I'd never heard the demos, I'd think each song was fantastic. However, each finished song lost the magic quality the original demos contained. Even though Planets Of The Universe turned out great, would it have been better with a more classic vs electronic sound we ended up with? Possibly. I guess the thought of songs like If You Were My Love or Mirror Mirror being massacred is more upsetting than I care to admit.

Not to mention it's just a bit bizarre for me to swallow 65 year old Stevie recording an entire album of songs from her youth. Don't get me wrong, these songs are all from her golden songwriting era. But Stevie's in such a different place in her life these days. Plus, I hate to even go here... but there's a reason some of these songs never turned up on an album. :sorry:



I feel the same way about all of this, but let's hope for the best. There are so many of her demos that I absolutely adore... Hopefully Dave has helped her separate the wheat from the chaff. Then again, one of my least favorites, Mabel Normand, is someone else's first choice; I find Gypsy Beggar unlistenable and it's on a list here. Obviously, what's "good" is subjective.

[BombaySapphire3]

I'd be surprised if she releases any of her Rhiannon-related songs on the new album. I figure she'll save them for never to be released Rhiannon album and the never to be produced Rhiannon movie. :laugh:

Also, I think Stevie may have owed the record company an album and didn't have much decent new material for them so she went into the vaults. I'm glad she's releasing the vault songs, but would have preferred fresh new material with some re-recorded demos. Hopefully she has some kick-ass new music for the FM release.

I think there is about a 50% chance some of the "Rhiannon "demos will be on it.This is so exciting it kind of feels like we are getting a lost Stevie Nicks album from her great years of songwriting.:blob2:

[gldstwmn]

If she releases "Lily Girl," I may have to put my entire collection up for sale. That's an atrocity that I just couldn't stand for.
Aren't Lily Girl, Don't Treat Me Like A Stranger and The Tragedy of One's Own Soul the same song? :confused: ;):lol:

[gldstwmn]

I'd be surprised if she releases any of her Rhiannon-related songs on the new album. I figure she'll save them for never to be released Rhiannon album and the never to be produced Rhiannon movie. :laugh:
I couldn't agree more.

Also, I think Stevie may have owed the record company an album and didn't have much decent new material for them so she went into the vaults. I'm glad she's releasing the vault songs, but would have preferred fresh new material with some re-recorded demos. Hopefully she has some kick-ass new music for the FM release.
Everybody just needs to let go of the notion that this is some contract fulfilling deal for her. She's doing this because she wants to.

[markolas]

I find Gypsy Beggar unlistenable and it's on a list here.

Will she say "sh*t!" in the middle of it, like she does on the demo?

[welcomechris]

I doubt any songs will be re-released (ex. Mirror Mirror (Was Released As B-Side), Remixes, Etc.)

[sorcerer999]

Spinning Wheels/Christian!!!

I forgot to add this one to my list. This one, like "Blue Water" would make my year...if it's done right.

And like most of you, I'm also curious to see whether she will include any of her Rhiannon songs on this new album. I guess that will depend on whether she's given up on the idea that the movie will ever get produced, although I remember reading an interview with her about 5 years ago where she said that she and the girls were in Hawaii working on the script and songs for the film. I wish I could remember which article that was. Regardless, I'd still love to hear "Forest Of The Black Roses" and "Maker Of Birds" in some sort of finished form before Mama decides to stop recording.

[KarmaContestant]

If she releases "Lily Girl," I may have to put my entire collection up for sale. That's an atrocity that I just couldn't stand for.

Or that god-awful Priest of Nothing nonsense.

[KarmaContestant]

I feel the same way about all of this, but let's hope for the best. There are so many of her demos that I absolutely adore... Hopefully Dave has helped her separate the wheat from the chaff. Then again, one of my least favorites, Mabel Normand, is someone else's first choice; I find Gypsy Beggar unlistenable and it's on a list here. Obviously, what's "good" is subjective.

:laugh: That was me. It is unlistenable (mainly because of quality), but it has good lyrics and a nice haunting piano melody, that, cleaned up, could be a lovely song.

[sodascouts]

Well, I guess you never can tell!

"Priest of Nothing" is wretched, but I think she was just rambling over a Joe Walsh instrumental and not seriously trying to do something with it.

Some of my faves - and I am sure there are some on here others loathe:

City of Hope
At The Fair
China Doll
Old-Fashioned (The Dance)
Sanctuary
She Loves Him Still
Something Exquisite
Love and War (Mix Down)
Love Don't Fail Me Now
Starshine
Tied Up in Promises
The Tragedy of One's Own Soul
Watchdevil
Prettiest Girl in the World
Space Needle

And also...
Castaway
Cathouse Blues
Cecelia
Christian (Spinning Wheels)
The Dealer
All These Years
If You Were My Love
Julia

OK.... perhaps that list was a bit long... and there are others I could have included. I love so many of her demos!

[markolas]

Which ones are the "Rhiannon" songs besides "Maker of Birds" and "Forest of the Black Roses"?

[AnthonyMI]

Aren't Lily Girl, Don't Treat Me Like A Stranger and The Tragedy of One's Own Soul the same song? :confused: ;):lol:

Yes I think at least two of those are very similar or variations of the same song with different lyrics. Either way, they were horrid horrid horrid works in progress that only worked in the end with NO stevie nicks and just Kenny G... as much as the world needed Kenny G in the first place. haha! We can thank Stevie NIcks for that! Without her he wouldnt have had his first HIT that rose from the ashes of Lilly Girl

[editme2]

The demos I'd like to see recorded are:

Julia
The Dealer
China Doll
Mistaken Love (or Forsaken Love)
Mix Down
Prettiest Girl in the World
Love You Enough
Blue Water
24 Karat Gold (of course)
Forest of the Black Roses
Space Needle (maybe an edited version)
At the Fair
Castaway
She Loves Him Still

I'm very curious to hear the newer versions of these, and other, tracks. I've been pleased with her current take on songs like Secret Love and Moonlight, although I must admit that I wasn't thrilled with the re-recording of Without You, but I think that mainly had to do with the production.

Looking forward to 24 Karat Gold.

[BlueLight]

If she releases "Lily Girl," I may have to put my entire collection up for sale. That's an atrocity that I just couldn't stand for.

I had never listened to this demo before...until just now. Yikes.

[pattyfan]

Oooh, I forgot about Cathouse Blues!!!!! And since they were recording in Nashville...oh please, oh please...and what about her first song that she always talks about? I don't know the name, but she always talks about the first lyrics..."I've loved and I've lost, I'm sad but not blue"? :)

Can we start a Cathouse Blues appreciation thread? :) :) :)

Kevin

[StreetAngel86]

you all need to lower your expectations... or else you are going to be SO disappointed when you find out that the Single is...


wait for it....



The Tragedy of Ones Own Soul with guest artist Kenny G!


NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

Also included. "Lilly Girl" and three remixes of Silver Girl, and Jane.


I LIKE LILY GIRL :lol:

"She was a lily girl ... not made for this wooooooooooooooooorld..."

Kenny G ... not so much

Which ones are the "Rhiannon" songs besides "Maker of Birds" and "Forest of the Black Roses"?

Rhiannon? :laugh:


Blue Water
Forsaken Love
Sorcerer
Lady From The Mountain

[Phil]

Originally posted by gldstwmn
Actually I'd take that deal if it included Dial The Number.

You might just get your wish. Somebody posted in another thread a few weeks ago that the copyright for this song was recently re-newed. I don't know if this is a standard procedure undertaken incrementally for all of her unreleased compositions or not, but it's possible this one might be included. Personally, I think there are much better songs out there and just hope above all else that "She Loves Him Still" has been recorded. I'm also hoping for "China Doll" and "Forest Of The Black Roses". These would be right up Dave's alley and give him the opportunity to present the darker, mysterious side of Stevie. Stevie's still capable of a nuanced, falsetto vocal so if she puts her mind to it, songs such as these could be truly captivating.

[krrrby]

1. Watchdevil
2. Belle Flower/Fleur
3. 24 Karat Gold
4. Julia
5. Cecilia
6. If You Were My Love
7. Space Needle
8. Prettiest Girl in the World
9. Blue Water
10. All The Kings Horses
11. Castaway
12. The Dealer
13. All the Beautiful Worlds
14. Chanel
15. Forget About Me (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vp0pAZJCDVU)
16. She Still Loves Him
17. Maker of Birds (Three Birds of Rhiannon)

Or does anyone remember the infamous session of "my love for you will never grow old" I can't remember the name of it - but it's the one where she's trying to sing over her original track and the backup singers can't make any sense out of it. I hope she doesn't go for that one.

[KarmaContestant]

Or does anyone remember the infamous session of "my love for you will never grow old" I can't remember the name of it - but it's the one where she's trying to sing over her original track and the backup singers can't make any sense out of it. I hope she doesn't go for that one.

My Love is Never Lost, on the master reels. Here's the completed demo, labeled as Love You Enough

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[BlueLight]

My Love is Never Lost, on the master reels. Here's the completed demo, labeled as Love You Enough

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Never knew about the alternate title. Absolutely love this song.

[KarmaContestant]

Never knew about the alternate title. Absolutely love this song.

It's from the same reel as Secret Love, an early version of Storms with Mick , and Watchdevil.

[bombaysaffires]

I'd be surprised if she releases any of her Rhiannon-related songs on the new album. I figure she'll save them for never to be released Rhiannon album and the never to be produced Rhiannon movie. :laugh:
.

actually I've thought with the trend of people doing Broadway musicals that the Rhiannon songs would lend themselves nicely to that…Not a big rah rah musical like say Mama Mia which is goofy and fun but a show that tells the whole Rhiannon/Mabinogion story. Forest of the Black Roses and Three Birds would be fabulous, based on the demos.

However I am a huge fan of Stevie's earlier vocals when her range was much better and her voice so fluid it went wherever she wanted to take it. She's much, much more limited now in range and in flexibility and often times tries to make up for that by getting louder… And I'm not entirely sure Dave has the right touch for that kind of material.

And I hope she does NOT do What Has R&R Ever Done for You… blech. And that sleazy wolf whistle.. blech again.

[goldenground]

I'm thinking (hoping) she'll do:

1. If You Were My Love (I can see Dave being into this one)
2. Julia
3. 24 Karat Gold
4. Blue Water (The lyrics are classic Stevie and I can see Dave making this sparkly and beautiful :angel: )
5. All The Beautiful Worlds
6. The Dealer aka Mistress Of My Fate
7. Sanctuary
8. Have No Heart
9. Forsaken Love
10. Watch Devil
11. Castaway
12. Gypsy Beggar
13. Prettiest Girl in the World
14. Space Needle
15. China Doll
16. At The Fair
17. Joan Of Arc

But if they're going to go based off YouTube popularity views then...

Blue Water - 151,304
Love You Enough - 75,771
All These Years - 72,581
Baby Doll - 56,215
Mirror Mirror - 36,383
She Loves Him Still - 36,343
Have No Heart - 32,609
Maker Of The Birds - 31,662
Space Needle- 28,339
Forsaken Love - 27,459
24 Karat Gold - 22,269
Watch Devil - 22,247
Dealer - 21,421
Castaway - 17,333
Gypsy Beggar- 15,237
If You Were My Love - 12,387
All The King's Horses - 12, 377
Forest Of The Black Roses - 12,155
Cecilia - 11,346
Don't Treat Me Like A Stranger - 11,089
Golden Braid - 11,072
All The Beautiful Worlds - 8781
Night Gallery - 8690
At The Fair - 8, 575
WHRAREDFY - 8505
Prettiest Girl in the world - 7694
China Doll - 6,553
Rich old lady - 6258
Cathouse Blues - 6097
Joan of Arc - 5787
Dial The Number - 5155
Lily girl - 4666
Julia - 4645
Mixdown - 4245
Melusine - 3804
You Like Me - 3494
I Call You Missing - 3253
Rock a Bye baby 3217
Gemini Amber - 3198
Something Exquisite - 3179
Belle Flower - 3086
Priest of nothing - 2824
It's Not A Dream - 2034
Starshine - 1904
Jimmy Come Back- 1817
One More Tomorrow - 1717
Goldfish & The Ladybug - 1620
Christian - 1397
Charmed Ones- 1379
Sanctuary - 1194
Chanel Chanel - 1140
Impossible Task - 533

I know people are bummed that she's not releasing "new" material but this is the album a lot of die hard Stevie fans have been waiting for. Hearing her current vocals with an official production on any one of these songs is really exciting :blob2:

[sorcerer999]

My Love is Never Lost, on the master reels. Here's the completed demo, labeled as Love You Enough

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I had been a Stevie fan for decades but only heard this song for the first time back in January of 2011, a mere 2 hours AFTER my ex and I decided to call it quits. Needless to say, it immediately became one of my favorites...and yeah, I think this is one she should revisit as well. I think it could benefit from the way her voice is these days.

[KarmaContestant]

Belle Flower - 3086

Starshine - 1904

Sanctuary - 1194


I know people are bummed that she's not releasing "new" material but this is the album a lot of die hard Stevie fans have been waiting for. Hearing her current vocals with an official production on any one of these songs is really exciting :blob2:

Sort of nuts that these three are so far down at the bottom the that list.

[BlueLight]

Sort of nuts that these three are so far down at the bottom the that list.

Same for Julia, although I believe there are multiple takes available on YouTube:

Julia - 4645

[sorcerer999]

Sort of nuts that these three are so far down at the bottom the that list.

I know, right? "Sanctuary" especially ~ that song (or at least the "take" that was widely circulated before we got all these master reels back in 2001) has so much passion in her vocal delivery.

"Must I be the oneeeeee...alwayssssss...to be condemned for you..."

Gives me chicken skins just thinking about it. Hahaha! :laugh:

[AliceLover]

City of Hope, China Doll, One More Tomorrow, and Love and War are really the only 4 demos that I'm in love with. I never cared too much for her demos, none of them really grab me. I'm hoping the finished studio versions will.

[welcomechris]

Mirror Mirror was released already. It won't be re-done

[Jondalar]

Mirror Mirror was released already. It won't be re-done

I was going to say the same thing. It was released.

[wheart]

I had been a Stevie fan for decades but only heard this song for the first time back in January of 2011, a mere 2 hours AFTER my ex and I decided to call it quits. Needless to say, it immediately became one of my favorites...and yeah, I think this is one she should revisit as well. I think it could benefit from the way her voice is these days.

I may have heard this song before but I sure don't remember it. This seems to be like a song she would want to record. I hope so. This song really captures my feelings over a relationship that didn't work out a few years ago but the love, on my end, is still very much there. So I liked the "my love will never grow old" line in particular.

[BlueDenimLamp]

One thing I would like to see them do is keep some of the original vocals because I would love to hear what a song sounds like with "young Stevie" singing backing vocals/harmonizing with 2014 Stevie...

[Phoenix]

One thing I would like to see them do is keep some of the original vocals because I would love to hear what a song sounds like with "young Stevie" singing backing vocals/harmonizing with 2014 Stevie...

That would be Amazing. And a unique idea That has not really been done before because few artist have had such a long career as she has. I would personally love the dealer, she calls you missing and the City of Hope (charmed ones) other than that I have never really listened to the demos either. But MOONLIGHT Is one of my favorite songs ever so if it turns out anything like that I will be happy

[saintbernard]

Here are the top 25 on Youtube by views:
1. Blue Water
2. All These Years
3. She Still Loves Him
4. Have No Heart
5. Three Birds of Rhiannon
6. Space Needle
7. Mistaken Love
8. Watch Devil
9. 24 Karat Gold
10. The Dealer
11. Castaway
12.All The King's Horses
13. Forest of the Black Roses
14. All Over You
15. All The Beautiful Worlds
16. Night Gallery
17. At The Fair
18. Belle Flower
19. Julia
20. Prettiest Girl In The World
21. China Doll
22. Joan of Arc
23. Love and War
24. You Like Me
25. Rockabye Baby

I could see Stevie's present voice being somewhat OK for songs like Love & War, Have No Heart, Joan of Arc, At the Fair, Prettiest Girl in the World and maybe Night Gallery. I still can't understand why she didn't choose Have No Heart instead of some of the other garbage that ended up on In Your Dreams. Especially since Annabel Lee (and My Heart, sort of) made the cut. I would have been perfectly happy for Fall From Grace (never have liked it) to have never seen the light of day in 2001 and Have No Heart make it to TISL instead.

As for Space Needle, it's another song I've never liked so if it does show up on the new record, it will most definitely be a skipper for me.

I don't particularly care much for the sound of Stevie's voice the past few years so I really don't have much hope that soft songs like Blue Water, Mistaken Love, Forest of the Black Roses and Julia will come out sounding good to my ears.

[sodascouts]

I'm surprised by all the love for "Have No Heart." It's melodramatic dirge about a spoiled 14 year old princess who has a little person die of love for her... And he presumably adores her solely because of her looks, since she "has no heart" and did nothing but heap abuse on him. Ugh.

[Jondalar]

I'm surprised by all the love for "Have No Heart." It's melodramatic dirge about a spoiled 14 year old princess who has a little person die of love for her... And he presumably adores her solely because of her looks, since she "has no heart" and did nothing but heap abuse on him. Ugh.

It's atmospheric and very dark. A lot if Stevie Nicks fans love atmosphere.

[Nick]

There's not a lot of love on here for "One More Tomorrow", huh? I want some upbeat tracks included.

I am so happy that Stevie is recording these demos and I hope there's a deluxe version available with extra songs.

[michelej1]

I'm surprised by all the love for "Have No Heart." It's melodramatic dirge about a spoiled 14 year old princess who has a little person die of love for her... And he presumably adores her solely because of her looks, since she "has no heart" and did nothing but heap abuse on him. Ugh.

Well, she had no heart, but he was the one she sang to. That's got to mean something.

Michele

[Keith]

"..like a voice in the wilderness... crying.. is there anybody? there must be somebody there.."

Love Don't Fail Me Now. As I listen to my copy of this beautiful track, I can only think how wonderful it will sound without the slow fade in and out start and the hissing throughout.. all I can say is what a wonderful time to be a Fleetwood Mac and Stevie Nicks fan. First, Christine McVie has rejoined the band, which I never thought would happen, and Stevie is giving her fans her demos.. aged and how she wanted to share them with us. Yes, I love many of the demos, but I am so excited about how she is going to wrap them up in her velvet and share them with us.. remember, she hasn't shared them with us.. someone else did. I'm not worried about the new album.. my thoughts are if I don't like them as much as the demo version - well, I have the demo version to listen to.. but I think this record is going to rock! "they were afraid of her.. she had no heart.." "what will you do when the feeling is gone.. where have you gone.. so far from me.." "blue water.. I sit and I wait for the morning to come.." "so in your laughter.. you do scream.." "I don't ever want to know about new people in your life.." "my soul has soared, I have reached great heights, but the ground is further than I thought.." "gone like the wind.. like the stars in the dust.. well, her little toy soldier is covered with rust.." "for in my house.. no teasing spirit.. no false laughter..." "you never loved the softness in my soul.. and yet you stayed with me so very long.. "..charmed ones remain.. well, I already lost one guiding light.." "here comes the cold chill... in the rain she laid face down.. what kind of freedom.. what kind of game.. my dreams... my 24 karat gold.." 24 Karat Gold.. thank you, Stevie. "the poet in my heart.."

[BombaySapphire3]

"..like a voice in the wilderness... crying.. is there anybody? there must be somebody there.."

Love Don't Fail Me Now. As I listen to my copy of this beautiful track, I can only think how wonderful it will sound without the slow fade in and out start and the hissing throughout.. all I can say is what a wonderful time to be a Fleetwood Mac and Stevie Nicks fan. First, Christine McVie has rejoined the band, which I never thought would happen, and Stevie is giving her fans her demos.. aged and how she wanted to share them with us. Yes, I love many of the demos, but I am so excited about how she is going to wrap them up in her velvet and share them with us.. remember, she hasn't shared them with us.. someone else did. I'm not worried about the new album.. my thoughts are if I don't like them as much as the demo version - well, I have the demo version to listen to.. but I think this record is going to rock! "they were afraid of her.. she had no heart.." "what will you do when the feeling is gone.. where have you gone.. so far from me.." "blue water.. I sit and I wait for the morning to come.." "so in your laughter.. you do scream.." "I don't ever want to know about new people in your life.." "my soul has soared, I have reached great heights, but the ground is further than I thought.." "gone like the wind.. like the stars in the dust.. well, her little toy soldier is covered with rust.." "for in my house.. no teasing spirit.. no false laughter..." "you never loved the softness in my soul.. and yet you stayed with me so very long.. "..charmed ones remain.. well, I already lost one guiding light.." "here comes the cold chill... in the rain she laid face down.. what kind of freedom.. what kind of game.. my dreams... my 24 karat gold.." 24 Karat Gold.. thank you, Stevie. "the poet in my heart.."
Wow nice post..it reminded me again of how rich lyrically so many of these songs are..If Stevie ,Dave and Waddy can frame them in a way that does these works justice I will never ask for anything in the way of recorded music again.

[vivfox]

Wow nice post..it reminded me again of how rich lyrically so many of these songs are...

I agree. Keith did a wonderful job wrapping up those gifts of songs.

[jcfree]

Beautiful post Keith! The way she writes her songs just draw you in and grab hold of you, that's how I've always felt about her lyrics.

[WatchChain]

If a Dave Stewart produced version of "Watch Devil" doesn't make it on the new album, I will be inconsolable. It is the most groovy, playful and soulful number that Stevie has ever written. The beat and bass line remind me of "Tell Me Something Good" by Rufus and Chaka Khan.

[sorcerer999]

If a Dave Stewart produced version of "Watch Devil" doesn't make it on the new album, I will be inconsolable. It is the most groovy, playful and soulful number that Stevie has ever written. The beat and bass line remind me of "Tell Me Something Good" by Rufus and Chaka Khan.

Yes, yes YES!!! :blob2: I think they could really take this song to places that the demo never could, both sonically R&B and harmony-wise. That bass line is what MAKES the demo for me. Well, that plus the lyrics, "...touching fingers thru the kitchen lace..."

I think this record is going to rock! "they were afraid of her.. she had no heart.." "what will you do when the feeling is gone.. where have you gone.. so far from me.." "blue water.. I sit and I wait for the morning to come.." "so in your laughter.. you do scream.." "I don't ever want to know about new people in your life.." "my soul has soared, I have reached great heights, but the ground is further than I thought.." "gone like the wind.. like the stars in the dust.. well, her little toy soldier is covered with rust.." "for in my house.. no teasing spirit.. no false laughter..." "you never loved the softness in my soul.. and yet you stayed with me so very long.. "..charmed ones remain.. well, I already lost one guiding light.." "here comes the cold chill... in the rain she laid face down.. what kind of freedom.. what kind of game.. my dreams... my 24 karat gold.." 24 Karat Gold.. thank you, Stevie. "the poet in my heart.."

Keith, you are awesome!!! Yes, these lyrics remind us that Stevie is first and foremost a poet! I'm happy that the world (those weird non-Stevie fans) will hopefully get to hear some of these exquisite lines for the first time.

[goldustsongbird]

Well, I guess you never can tell!

"Priest of Nothing" is wretched, but I think she was just rambling over a Joe Walsh instrumental and not seriously trying to do something with it.

Some of my faves - and I am sure there are some on here others loathe:

City of Hope
At The Fair
China Doll
Old-Fashioned (The Dance)
Sanctuary
She Loves Him Still
Something Exquisite
Love and War (Mix Down)
Love Don't Fail Me Now
Starshine
Tied Up in Promises
The Tragedy of One's Own Soul
Watchdevil
Prettiest Girl in the World
Space Needle

And also...
Castaway
Cathouse Blues
Cecelia
Christian (Spinning Wheels)
The Dealer
All These Years
If You Were My Love
Julia

OK.... perhaps that list was a bit long... and there are others I could have included. I love so many of her demos!

I really like Prettiest Girl In the World. I could see her doing that now. Space Needle just needs to be a bit shorter, because it goes on and on, like TISL. I love both, just not for six minutes.

China Doll gets some hate, but I think it's pretty. It could be updated easily.

What about the rumoured demos that were discovered around 1997(ish)?Are these even real songs? We had a post here about them years ago, and I can't remember if someone found alternate titles for them on copyright.gov.
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Dark Angel
Desert Skies
Dolphins and Stars :laugh:
Heartbreaker
Helen
For John
Out on the Road (says it's from Tusk)
The River
Rumors
So Far
Thunder
Butterflies (pls n0)

They probably won't be on there if they're not on youtube, but if she's serious about this vault title...

[Christopher]

I think ALL THE BEAUTIFUL WORLDS was a shoe in on The WILD HEART, kicked to the curb at the last minute. Maybe once she recorded "Stand Back" (one of the last songs to be recorded for the record.) And though we all have a pretty good master copy circulating, this song, to me, seemed like it ALWAYS needed an official presentation and release. It's just too good, and has maybe the most catchy chorus Stevie has perhaps accidently written. I've loved this song unconditionally from the very first listen, and always scratched my head at why it was never released (even as a B-Side). :shrug:

Here are my favorite demos/outtakes that I'd love to see recorded & released officially:

ALL THE BEAUTIFUL WORLDS
AT THE FAIR - This song could be amazing with Stewarts finishing touch. This song is so dark & twisted. You can feel the protagonists tortured soul, feeling trapped, (relationship) like a recurring nightmare set starkly against supposedly happier times spent "At the Fair." If they keep the synth & menacing mid-tempo dark vibe, which recalls some early Eurythmics material, and added modern flourishes. This could finally be perfected. I've always loved this song. It's a romantic story gone creepy and regretfully bad!

FOREST OF THE BLACK ROSES
MAKER OF BIRDS
YOU WONT FORGET ME (TELEPHONE)
BELLE FLEUR
CHANEL CHANEL
SOMETHING EXQUISITE
SHE LOVES HIM STILL
24 KARAT GOLD
IF YOU WERE MY LOVE
JULIA
FORSAKEN LOVE
I CALL YOU MISSING
YOU LIKE ME
THE CHARMED ONES (CITY OF HOPE)

I tried to select @16 songs that more or less would be a good mix of slower ballads ("Maker of Birds", "Forest of the Black Roses", "She Loves Him Still"", Forsaken Love") to mid-tempo fare: (ATBW, ATF, "Julia", "Chanel, Chanel", "Something Exquisite" ,"24 Karat Gold" and a mix of some rockers like "You Wont Forget Me", "I Call You Missing" & "You Like Me".

I'd also love the following compositions (below) recorded, but I'd rather have the "Rhiannon" songs properly completed & released along with "Charmed Ones" & the drop dead gorgeous "She Loves Him Still", and only see so many selections for ballads making the cut :shrug:
JOAN OF ARC
SPACE NEEDLE
HAVE NO HEART

Other notable choices:
ALL THE KINGS HORSES
CHRISTIAN
ALL THESE YEARS
SANCTUARY
THE DEALER
WATCH DEVIL
CATHOUSE BLUES
CECILIA
CHINA DOLL
IMPOSSIBLE TASK
PRETTIEST GIRL IN THE WORLD

I really hope she stays away from the likes of "One More Tomorrow" , "What Has Rock N Roll Has Done For You" & "Dial The Number". And though I like "Blue Water", it's never resonated with me as much as it appears to have with other fans. It's pretty, but a little repetitive. But I guess it is sorta meditative in it's repetitiveness. Ultimately, I think if we all get about 4-5 songs from our personal wish-list, we'll all be somewhat satisfied with the record. I'm hoping Stevie pulls out a unheard, surprise "vault song" from her heyday (like "The Chain") that will blow everybody away.

[Johnny Stew]

What about the rumoured demos that were discovered around 1997(ish)?Are these even real songs? We had a post here about them years ago, and I can't remember if someone found alternate titles for them on copyright.gov.

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Dark Angel
Desert Skies
Dolphins and Stars :laugh:
Heartbreaker
Helen
For John
Out on the Road (says it's from Tusk)
The River
Rumors
So Far
Thunder
Butterflies (pls n0)

They probably won't be on there if they're not on youtube, but if she's serious about this vault title...

"For John" has a copyright date of 12/22/1980, and "Thunder" is dated 08/31/1976 (with a renewal on 01/02/2004).

"So Far" is on BMI's site, but not the US Copyright site, so there's no date for that one. It definitely exists though.

I've never seen songs with any of those other titles on either site. At least not written by Stevie.

Oh, and "Out On The Road" is an early version of "That's Enough For Me," and is on disc 2 of the 'Tusk' remaster.

[Johnny Stew]

While we're discussing the US Copyright site, there's a document for "And the days go by & 44 other titles," dated 02/26/1987.
A few of the titles in the list are songs we've never heard, and some are obviously alternate names for known songs.

And the days go by
Arabesque
Baby doll
Blue water
Bubbles and balloons
Can never be sold
Candlebright
Can't buy
Castaway
Cathouse blues
Cecilia.
China doll
Dreamer
Dreamers lose, others win
Finders keepers
For John
Found another love
Gemini amber
The Glass blower
Goldfish and ladybug
Grandfather's song
I was too young
If you were my love
King and queen here
Lady
Lady from the mountains
Mistaken love
No light
Planets of the universe
The Race has run
Sanctuary
Secret love
Sing for the things money can't buy
Smile at you
Spinning wheels
Standing still
Starshine
Taken my time
24 carat gold
Waltzing through stardom
Watch chain
Water witch
When shall we love
Without you
You never promised me a rose garden

[KarmaContestant]

Just remembered the lovely piano demo, Knocking On Doors. I like this one, but couldn't find it on YouTube.

Come lately I just keep waiting
I see nothing out there
The sun keeps throwing the light from the clouds
But there's no light in here
I know that things have to change
But how to change them isn't clear
I'm tired of knocking on doors when there's nobody there
I'm tired of knocking on doors when there's nobody there

And the time keeps going on by
And I wonder what is to become of me?
And I'm unsure
I can't see my way
And he says "Lady, you don't have to see."

And the time keeps going on by
And I wonder what is to become of me?
And I'm unsure
I can't see my way
He says "Lady, you don't have to see."
And he says "Lady, you don't have to see."

Come lately I just keep waiting
I see nothing out there
The sun keeps throwing out it's light from the clouds
But there's no light in here
I know that things have to change
But how to change them isn't clear
I'm tired of knocking on doors when there's nobody there
You see, I'm tired of knocking on doors when there's nobody there

And the time keeps going on by
And I wonder what is to become of me?
And I'm unsure
I can't see my way
And he says "Lady you don't need to see."
And the time keeps going on by
And I wonder what is to become of me?
And I'm unsure
And I can't see my way
And he says "Lady you don't need to see."
And he says "Lady you don't need to see."

And the time keeps going on by
And I wonder what is to become of me?
And I'm unsure
I can't see my way
And he says "Lady you don't have to see."
And he says "Lady you don't have to see."
And he says "Lady you don't have to see."

[Johnny Stew]

Just remembered the lovely piano demo, Knocking On Doors.

Great song! I forget about that one sometimes, but I've always liked it.

Meanwhile, your timing is terrific. I was just wondering what song "Lady" might be on that copyright list ("Lady" and "Lady From The Mountains" are separate entries). After reading your post, I'm thinking now that "Lady" is quite possibly "Knocking On Doors."

[michelej1]

Given things that have transpired in the intervening years, I'm interested in "For John." We know how John McVie felt about Crystal. I wonder if this song has something in it to which he relates. Or it could just relate to him.

Michele

[Johnny Stew]

Given things that have transpired in the intervening years, I'm interested in "For John." We know how John McVie felt about Crystal. I wonder if this song has something in it to which he relates. Or it could just relate to him.

My hunch is that it was written for John Lennon, since it was published about two weeks after his death. Would be very cool if it were about "our" John, though.

[StreetAngel86]

Well, she had no heart, but he was the one she sang to. That's got to mean something.

Michele

sometimes she let him hold her in his arms
and she would taunt him


it's BRILLIANT :D

[welcomechris]

I really like Prettiest Girl In the World. I could see her doing that now. Space Needle just needs to be a bit shorter, because it goes on and on, like TISL. I love both, just not for six minutes.

China Doll gets some hate, but I think it's pretty. It could be updated easily.

What about the rumoured demos that were discovered around 1997(ish)?Are these even real songs? We had a post here about them years ago, and I can't remember if someone found alternate titles for them on copyright.gov.

Carousel
Dark Angel
Desert Skies
Dolphins and Stars :laugh:
Heartbreaker
Helen
For John
Out on the Road (says it's from Tusk)
The River
Rumors
So Far
Thunder
Butterflies (pls n0)

They probably won't be on there if they're not on youtube, but if she's serious about this vault title...

Out On The Road was an early name for "That's Enough For Me"
Heartbreaker was a Lindsey song

[bombaysaffires]

I could see Stevie's present voice being somewhat OK for songs like Love & War, Have No Heart, Joan of Arc, At the Fair, Prettiest Girl in the World and maybe Night Gallery. I still can't understand why she didn't choose Have No Heart instead of some of the other garbage that ended up on In Your Dreams. Especially since Annabel Lee (and My Heart, sort of) made the cut. I would have been perfectly happy for Fall From Grace (never have liked it) to have never seen the light of day in 2001 and Have No Heart make it to TISL instead.

As for Space Needle, it's another song I've never liked so if it does show up on the new record, it will most definitely be a skipper for me.

I don't particularly care much for the sound of Stevie's voice the past few years so I really don't have much hope that soft songs like Blue Water, Mistaken Love, Forest of the Black Roses and Julia will come out sounding good to my ears.

Oh I think Fall From Grace is great.

[goldustsongbird]

"For John" has a copyright date of 12/22/1980, and "Thunder" is dated 08/31/1976 (with a renewal on 01/02/2004).

"So Far" is on BMI's site, but not the US Copyright site, so there's no date for that one. It definitely exists though.

I've never seen songs with any of those other titles on either site. At least not written by Stevie.

Oh, and "Out On The Road" is an early version of "That's Enough For Me," and is on disc 2 of the 'Tusk' remaster.

Thunder could be a working title for Dreams? I found those titles on the old Stevie Nicks Underground. Thanks for the information about the other songs!

While we're discussing the US Copyright site, there's a document for "And the days go by & 44 other titles," dated 02/26/1987.
A few of the titles in the list are songs we've never heard, and some are obviously alternate names for known songs.

And the days go by
Arabesque
Baby doll
Blue water
Bubbles and balloons
Can never be sold
Candlebright
Can't buy
Castaway
Cathouse blues
Cecilia.
China doll
Dreamer
Dreamers lose, others win
Finders keepers
For John
Found another love
Gemini amber
The Glass blower
Goldfish and ladybug
Grandfather's song
I was too young
If you were my love
King and queen here
Lady
Lady from the mountains
Mistaken love
No light
Planets of the universe
The Race has run
Sanctuary
Secret love
Sing for the things money can't buy
Smile at you
Spinning wheels
Standing still
Starshine
Taken my time
24 carat gold
Waltzing through stardom
Watch chain
Water witch
When shall we love
Without you
You never promised me a rose garden

Wonder what The Glassblower is.

[QUOTE=michelej1;1130489]Given things that have transpired in the intervening years, I'm interested in "For John." We know how John McVie felt about Crystal. I wonder if this song has something in it to which he relates. Or it could just relate to him.

I guessed him or John Courage. He fits the 1980 timeline Johnny Stew just posted.

[chiliD]

"Have No Heart".

Ok, maybe I'm thinking of a similarly titled song, but wasn't there a limited edition of In Your Dreams that was an exclusive from one of the online CD shops that had that song on it?

[BombaySapphire3]

"Have No Heart".

Ok, maybe I'm thinking of a similarly titled song, but wasn't there a limited edition of In Your Dreams that was an exclusive from one of the online CD shops that had that song on it?

The song that the Barnes &Noble edition had on it was "My Heart"..a bit confusing I know.

[keineg]

There's a never released studio version of "Gold And Braid" not to mention the live version was on the "Enchanted" box set...

Has anyone heard this studio version of 'Gold & Braid'???

[AnthonyMI]

Back in 1998 I proposed to the Ledge that the Enchanted version of Gold and Braid was, in fact, the studio version of Gold and Braid. I think that they replaced the live version audio with the studio track for the HBO special like they redubbed Stevies Vocals on Edge of 17. That is why we have not heard the recorded version of Gold and Braid... it would be admitting "fraud".

[KarmaContestant]

Has anyone heard this studio version of 'Gold & Braid'???

Yes, there are several takes and vocal cuts available. If you search the site for master reels, you should find them. Also, here's one:

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[KarmaContestant]

Back in 1998 I proposed to the Ledge that the Enchanted version of Gold and Braid was, in fact, the studio version of Gold and Braid. I think that they replaced the live version audio with the studio track for the HBO special like they redubbed Stevies Vocals on Edge of 17. That is why we have not heard the recorded version of Gold and Braid... it would be admitting "fraud".

That's crazy. There are several studio cuts of Gold And Braid available on the master reels, and none of them resemble the live version exactly.

here's another:
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http://stevienickswelshwitch.tumblr.com/completedemolist

[BlueDenimLamp]

Back in 1998 I proposed to the Ledge that the Enchanted version of Gold and Braid was, in fact, the studio version of Gold and Braid. I think that they replaced the live version audio with the studio track for the HBO special like they redubbed Stevies Vocals on Edge of 17. ]
That is why we have not heard the recorded version of Gold and Braid... it would be admitting "fraud".

I have what are clearly two separate versions of "Gold And Braid" one live and the other a studio version...Are you saying there is a third version?

[AnthonyMI]

Yah, neither of those are completed tracks. They have more in common with the "Working" takes of the other Bella Donna tracks. Those are not the final completed versions.

[AnthonyMI]

I have what are clearly two separate versions of "Gold And Braid" one live and the other a studio version...Are you saying there is a third version?

There are several studio "takes" with "live" instruments. I do not think any finished products have every been seen where they had prerecorded instruments and then dubbed vocals. like all the other tracks on Bella Donna were done.

The closest thing to a Studio Version were the Master Reels that had some various levels of completeness.

[KarmaContestant]

Yah, neither of those are completed tracks. They have more in common with the "Working" takes of the other Bella Donna tracks. Those are not the final completed versions.

If you look for them, you will find completed versions. I just posted what I could find with a quick youtube search, while I am at work. There are versions from the master reels that are as completed as, say, The Dealer or Julia - you just have to look for them.

Here are some of them:

http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?p=852891&highlight=master+reel+gold+braid#post852891

http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?p=853548&highlight=master+reel+gold+braid#post853548

[goldenground]

I have what are clearly two separate versions of "Gold And Braid" one live and the other a studio version...Are you saying there is a third version?

There's several versions, like with most of her songs. Any master reels of Gold And Braid are here. http://stevienicksivorykeys.blogspot.com/2014/01/stevie-nicks-gold-and-braid-outtakes.html

Pretty much any Stevie outtakes/demos/ live recordings are in this blogspot.

[chiliD]

The song that the Barnes &Noble edition had on it was "My Heart"..a bit confusing I know.

Ahh. Ok. Thanks! :thumbsup:

[StevieNicksfann]

where are people getting the Youtube view counts? there are many different julia's posted on different people's channels so unless someone counted those all up, I'd argue that this song is closer to the top of the list in terms of overall popularity. I couldn't be happier that Stevie had decided to do this for the fans. 2 songs that don't seem to be discussed a lot that I would die to hear recorded are Ooh Baby and This Is My Cross To Bear.

My wish list is:

1) Ooh Baby
2) Mistress of My Fate/The Dealer
3) All The Beautiful Worlds
4) One More tomorrow
5) This Is My Cross To Bear
6) Love And War/Mix Down
7) Rock A Bye Baby
8) It's Not A Dream
9) Chanel Chanel
10) Charmed Ones/City of Hope
11) Christian/Spinning Wheels
12) Cathouse Blues
13) If You Were My Love
14) Julia
15) Jimmy Come On Back
16) Tied Up (In Promises)
17) Blue Water
18) and I'll add 24 Karat Gold - since that seems to be a shoe-in but I wish she'd do it like the R& B mix that's been circulating.

But I'd also wish for these to show up someday.

She Loves Him Still
Forsaken Love
Watch Devil
Castaway
What Has Rock N Roll Ever Done For You?
China Doll
Rich Old Lady
I Call You Missing

[vivfox]

Given things that have transpired in the intervening years, I'm interested in "For John." We know how John McVie felt about Crystal. I wonder if this song has something in it to which he relates. Or it could just relate to him.

I always thought this was the original title for Edge of 17 since the song was written about the death of her Uncle John and the death of John Lennon.

[goldustsongbird]

I always thought this was the original title for Edge of 17 since the song was written about the death of her Uncle John and the death of John Lennon.

This makes more sense than John Courage or McVie!

[Johnny Stew]

I always thought this was the original title for Edge of 17 since the song was written about the death of her Uncle John and the death of John Lennon.

This makes more sense than John Courage or McVie!

I hadn't even thought of the fact that it might have been about Stevie's uncle, too. Good call! Like I said the other day, based on the copyright date, I just assumed it was about John Lennon.

[gssmith]

Wow! I've never really listened to the demos on YouTube but since all this news came out I figure I'd check out the ones y'all have been talking about. Some amazing stuff and I can't wait for this project!

Some that really stood out to me: the Dealer is my favorite, classic Stevie; Julia, All the beautiful words, Starshine and One More Tomorrow could be a great little rockers like Enchanted or think about me. If You Were My love was good too. Joan of Arc: like someone one said people who like Stevie tend to go for the dark atmosphere.

I've only heard about 10-15 and still have more to go thru

[gssmith]

Oh My God! Tied Up in Promises and Have No Heart too!
Where have I been? I knew they were out there, but never took them seriously

[brad975]

I've listened to a lot of Stevie outtakes but had never heard "24 Karat Gold" until just recently. If I had to pick a list from what I've heard, I'm not sure that one would be on there. But I'm optimistic about this project.

"Secret Love" turned out nicely last time around. And my favorite songs on TISL were "Planets of the Universe," "Sorcerer" and "Candlebright" (songs from the '70s, arguably her most-inspired period of songwriting).

I'd love a bluesy take on "The Dealer," similar to the Tusk outtake.

It's a shame that more of her songs didn't get proper studio treatment in the '70s when her voice was at its peak (75-77). Instead we got 5 FB songs with her on lead and Lindsey crowding her out of her own "Crystal" and "I Don't Want to Know." Therefore, I was thrilled to get the high-quality demos of "Planets," "Think About It," "The Chain" (which I may like better than the transformed group effort). Hell, sometimes I even listen to "Whenever I Call You Friend" just to hear her soar.

But Stevie, bless her heart, has usually known how to work her ever-evolving voice to her advantage, apart from the Klonopin, could-care-less years. Plus, David did such a nice job helming IYD. So I'm excited about this album!

I just hope Stevie didn't get confused revisiting her coke years on YouTube and think "All Over You" was really her -- or Prince. Cuz it's not :)

[Artemis]

It's a shame that more of her songs didn't get proper studio treatment in the '70s when her voice was at its peak (75-77).

I'd say her voice peaked after Tusk, Beautiful Child may just be the most stunning vocal of her career. I agree that it's a shame there's not more songs with her early voice though. It's part of what makes some of these demos so precious.

[chiliD]

Hell, sometimes I even listen to "Whenever I Call You Friend" just to hear her soar.

Masochistic much? :laugh:

[michelej1]

Hell, sometimes I even listen to "Whenever I Call You Friend" just to hear her soar.



I don't particularly think she soars on that song, but when I first heard these on the radio, I do distinctly remember loving both Magnet and Steel and Whenever I Call You Friend precisely because of the female vocal and I didn't even know it was Stevie back then. I may have heard the name "Stevie Nicks" but I didn't associate it with a particular person. And I didn't even know it was the same person on Magnet and Steel and Friend. I just knew that I couldn't wait to get to the woman's part when I listened to those songs. Michele

[StevieNicksfann]

I'd love a bluesy take on "The Dealer," similar to the Tusk outtake.

Hell, sometimes I even listen to "Whenever I Call You Friend" just to hear her soar.


I just hope Stevie didn't get confused revisiting her coke years on YouTube and think "All Over You" was really her -- or Prince. Cuz it's not :)

I hate the bluesy Dealer and much prefer the Bella Donna rock version.

I agree with you on Whenever I Call You Friend - that's one of her best vocals ever.

I believe someone on this board confirmed that All Over You was indeed Stevie as she almost put this on Enchanted.

[bombaysaffires]

I don't particularly think she soars on that song,

oh but she has an amazing warble…"forever and everrrrrrr" that she has never had since.

She once referred to Kenny Loggins in an interview (only half-jokingly) as "Kenny 'slave driver' Loggins" saying that he knew exactly what he wanted from her on that song and "he got it. And my hat is off to him because I'm not that easy to work with when people start telling me what to do". Can you spell Lindsey?? Which is why she loves Dave but sometimes one can be too close to one's own work and need that objective outside editor/director (Kenny, Lindsey, Jimmy, etc) to shape an even better performance. It's why I'm excited and yet a little nervous about this new album.

[Jondalar]

Midnight Wind is her best vocal. With that said, I love her strong voice on Have No Heart.

[On Ice]

Midnight Wind is her best vocal

Yes, it is an amazing vocal but don't over look her stunning work on Walter Egan's first two records, especially Fundamental Roll, she's all over it. If only Fleetwood Mac had let her cut loose (well she did but it got pushed back in the final mixes, ie Oh Daddy) Where's the party? Indeed. Whoever got those vocals out of her should have locked her in a studio and told her to record all the amazing songs she had in her vault.

[brad975]

I believe someone on this board confirmed that All Over You was indeed Stevie as she almost put this on Enchanted.

I'm going to need to hear it straight from Stevie to believe it.

I'm a HUGE Prince fan and own a book that exhaustively documents every recording session he made in the 1980s (citing the logs of his engineers with dates/times). And there is no mention of this session ever existing.

Not to mention the fact that the voices sound nothing like Stevie or Prince. You can listen to it again and ask yourself, "What era of Stevie's voice could that possibly be?" It's surely way too high for her 80s/90s voice, and way too flat/different than her 70s voice (when she hadn't even met Prince yet). The male voice definitely is not the Purple One. Sounds like a white dude.

Whoever recorded this half-baked "funk" would be lucky to gig at a Holiday Inn in Omaha. Very amateurish. My guess is that whoever it was decided they could finally get some attention if they mislabeled it online as Stevie & Prince. And if that's the case, boy, they've succeeded in fooling a lot of people.

Maybe it's the romantic notion that Stevie & Prince continued to collaborate that allows people's ears to be fooled by this. She said not long ago that he did offer her the opportunity to write lyrics to his "Purple Rain" demo, but she passed.

"All Over You" does succeed 0ne level: It makes me want to Stand the Hell Back.

[PenguinHead]

All Over You sounds like some crazy night Stevie and Prince spent together, drugged out, playing around in a studio. I can't imagine that Stevie ever considered releasing it on one of her album. But then again, the question still remains if it's even them.

[Jondalar]

This is a really good early demo that could make the album. Again, very Cat Stevens and has a late 60s vibe.

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[pattyfan]

Does anyone thing Cathouse Blues might make it? It's one of my favorite vocals of Stevie's. I assume it's an old song and not hers.

Kevin

[PenguinHead]

Does anyone thing Cathouse Blues might make it? It's one of my favorite vocals of Stevie's. I assume it's an old song and not hers.

Kevin

General belief that it's an original -- she wrote it. Lyrically, it's right in her pocket/style.

It's a quirky little ditty of a song, but it doesn't seem substantial enough/style-wise to be revived as a album track. At the very least, it could pop up as a hidden bonus track...five minutes after the CD album end.

[APerfectLie]

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10152046205197133&id=12134457132&_rdr

Well we are def getting Starshine!

[pattyfan]

I didn't know that it is thought to be a Stevie original :) I don't know why, but I always thought that it might be an old country song or something that her grandfather sang and/or wrote. Anyway, you are right, it's very short, but then again, so was Secret Love, and that got fleshed out. But you are also right that maybe a secret cut at the end would be a great place for it. :)

Here's hoping... :)

Kevin

[pattyfan]

Wow, very cool video :) :) I don't know that particular song. Off to youtube.... :)


Kevin

[Jondalar]

I never thought she would do star shine.

[UndoingTheLaces]

I know it's a pipe dream but I'd love to hear a modern take on Castaway. I think Dave could do incredible work on the instrumentation. Some people have said how they like the demos better than the originals but I must say I loved Anabelle Lee sooo much but when I heard the new version I was totally blown away. It's still my favorite track on In Your Dreams. And as much as I loved Secret Love all these years I love the album track just as much. I'm really bummed they didn't do a remix of it for the clubs, I think that would have gone over well.

[louielouie2000]

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10152046205197133&id=12134457132&_rdr

Well we are def getting Starshine!

I've been wondering when we'd get a snippet- and was getting a bit worried about not hearing one yet! I'm liking what I hear of that vocal! :D I've never heard the original before until just now... what an awesome little song. So much passion, such a foot tapper! I've suddenly got such good vibes about this album. :nod:

[KarmaContestant]

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10152046205197133&id=12134457132&_rdr

Well we are def getting Starshine!

Woot! I love this song, and was really hoping for it's inclusion!

[atlnightbird]

Regarding the song "all over you" I never bought the fact that it was Prince from the start, If you ask me, I always thought it sounded like Tom Petty singing with stevie

[PenguinHead]

I'm dying to know what songs made the cut on the album. I'm surprised that Dave Stewart has not given us any more tidbits. Surely there must be someone else who is privy to the recording sessions. No leaks???

Ahh...."he other." You Can't Fix That.

[BlueLight]

I've been assuming that we'll also get 24 Karat Gold. But still 16 to go! The suspense is killing me! :]

[BombaySapphire3]

There are also some that believe Gypsy Beggar will be on there after Dave sent a tweet about the album with a sign with some of the lyrics from the song on it..not really one anyone predicted but then neither was Starshine.

[KarmaContestant]

There are also some that believe Gypsy Beggar will be on there after Dave sent a tweet about the album with a sign with some of the lyrics from the song on it..not really one anyone predicted but then neither was Starshine.

While I'm hopeful some of the more popular demos will make an appearance, I wonder if Stevie will actually use the songs she is least likely to want for other projects. We get a little more from the 'vault' with each solo project, and it's possible she still has plans for many fan favorites like Forsaken Love, She Loves Him Still, Blue Water, Julia, Sanctuary, etc...

Maybe that means we'll get some of those more obscure demos like Beautiful Ghost, Love Don't Fail Me Now, It's Not A Dream, Prettiest Girl In The World, Night Gallery, Old Fashioned, Something Exquisite, Impossible Task, Rock-A-Bye Baby...and Gypsy Beggar.

I guess I'd be OK with that. :shrug:

[Jondalar]

I think the vault songs she will use will be her last use of her vault stash unless she does something for Buckingham/Nicks.

[elle]

considering SN said somewhere that she is using her old songs dating all the way to 1969 (not that her numbers are always correct), that would signal she will use some of the songs from Fritz days.

over on the Rumours forum, her old Fritz song "Funny kind of love" came up during discussions (the one LB used as a starting point for his [also unreleased] Deep Dense). that prompted me to wonder if that song will make this unreleased oldies album?

i would love to hear what changes song went through from Funny kind of love in order to become Deep Dense.