This Tour

[Villavic]

Christine McVie.............70
John McVie...................68
Mick Fleetwood.............66
Stevie Nicks...................65
Lindsey Buckingham.....64

Not that I want to be a jinx, since I’ve already bought my VIP package (and my Lima-Newark ticket :shocked:) so this is the least I wish, but reading the How old thread I can’t help of think about the tour risks. Hope they keep healthy! A tour is exhausting, that’s why I chose the earliest show I could see (NJ, since there are direct flights from Lima and I can’t take long vacations, just a long weekend, and save hotels staying at relatives home). I remember Stevie looked very tired in the Unleashed 2009 segment (Dallas). Lindsey on the hand looked vigorous and tireless!!

So they are not young anymore. But... Mick Jagger is 70 and on world tour, Ray Manzarek was on the road at 69 and more with the “new” Doors. So F Mshould do it fine if no complications appear. The main risk would be, as we know, John. As I read, he’s still under chemo so let’s hope he will completely recover for September. But let's face it, there's a risk. Anyway let’s pray and send positive vibes to the whole band!!

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/q-a-christine-mcvie-cant-wait-for-fleetwood-mac-world-tour-20140327

How has John's health been since his cancer diagnosis?
John’s health is on the up. He’s still doing chemotherapy and gets tired quickly, but he’s definitely been on the mend. He’s been such a man about this whole thing. I have renewed respect and love for him.

[FM77]

Well, tickets would be refunded if they were to cancel. Your airline ticket is another matter. Hopefully you bought some insurance for that? John's health sounds good right now but even if something happened, the tour would continue. There is too much money in play now.

It is daunting to think about because they don't even start for MONTHS. The wait will be painful.

[Villavic]

Yes, I knew about the refund. And about the flight ticket, well the suicide option was just an idea :laugh: my vip package (http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showpost.php?p=1124290&postcount=144) ...I would enjoy to travel anyway to visit my relatives in NJ, I adore my aunt.. and shopping in NJ.. no tax for clothes.. he hee..

And yes, though a tour without John wouldn't be the same, cancelling the whole tour would be a disaster for everybody involved.

[MichaelaM]

Does anyone know if you you get a full refund from ticketmaster if God forbid they have to cancel even if you don't get the insurance on the ticket?

[FM77]

Yes, if the band cancels you get a full refund. The insurance is in case you need to cancel.

[mottabam]

Does anyone know if you you get a full refund from ticketmaster if God forbid they have to cancel even if you don't get the insurance on the ticket?

YES. The optional insurance is if you can't make it for certain reasons, health issues, accident etc. Read the fine print before purchasing.

Generally if I can't make a show I sell the ticket on eBay.

[MichaelaM]

Does the full refund apply for Mick's VIP tickets as well?

[elle]

Does the full refund apply for Mick's VIP tickets as well?

people got full refund for AUS/NZ shows. plus there are no fees for Mick's so you would really get everything what you paid back. i'm guessing TM keeps their fees when they refund you?

[FM77]

people got full refund for AUS/NZ shows. plus there are no fees for Mick's so you would really get everything what you paid back. i'm guessing TM keeps their fees when they refund you?

No they don't. I had a show refunded a few years ago and got everything back in full.

[FM77]

Does the full refund apply for Mick's VIP tickets as well?

Absolutely it does.

[SteveMacD]

Bleakest, most unnecessary grotesque thread EVER!

[SteveMacD]

Go figure, you can take Vegas odds on which member of the band is going to kick off first, and what that could possibly do to your wallet, but you can't get a new screen name.

[FM77]

Calm down. FM has cancelled shows before. Nobody died. SN has cancelled shows. It isn't often but it can happen. People are just hedging their $750 investment, that's all.

[SteveMacD]

Calm down. FM has cancelled shows before. Nobody died. SN has cancelled shows. It isn't often but it can happen. People are just hedging their $750 investment, that's all.

Which they get back if the show is canceled. Yeah, shows get canceled. That's not the intent of this thread. And don't try to act like it is.

[HomerMcvie]

Wow. People seem pissed here...

I'm pissed that it will cost me a F*CKING RIDICULOUS $750 for a good seat to see that band that I've lived my life around, since 8th grade. Which I won't pay.

Mirage was f*cking $16, for 5th row center. I have the stub to prove it!:(

[dontlookdown]

I agree - the ticket prices are ridiculous.
$225 for one seat in an arena is silly.
I know what goes into a show and all the insurance and everyone involved -- all on a payroll.
But these ticket prices are extreme.
I still think Bruce Springsteen is the only big touring act on the road these days who puts the fans first. I've never paid over $100 face value for front row tickets for Springsteen.

I have a feeling there is a contingency plan to replace John, should he be too tired or ill to finish the tour.
I'm hoping that playing his music is exactly what he and his doctors think is his best medicine.
But I'm one of those people who believes there is no Fleetwood Mac without John McVie. Nobody plays bass like him.

[SorcererJP]

I agree - the ticket prices are ridiculous.
$225 for one seat in an arena is silly.
I know what goes into a show and all the insurance and everyone involved -- all on a payroll.
But these ticket prices are extreme.
I still think Bruce Springsteen is the only big touring act on the road these days who puts the fans first. I've never paid over $100 face value for front row tickets for Springsteen.


Last year I paid only 76 euros at TM to see FM in Amsterdam (general admission so no fuss about front-rows and stuff...just had to be early to get upfront) and 85 for a side-seat in Antwerp.

So that is about 98 US Dollars...

Never understood what chairs are for at a rock-concert though ....

[FM77]

Which they get back if the show is canceled. Yeah, shows get canceled. That's not the intent of this thread. And don't try to act like it is.

Seriously, calm down. Everything will be fine. I didn't start this thread, dude.

[olive]

Wow. People seem pissed here...

I'm pissed that it will cost me a F*CKING RIDICULOUS $750 for a good seat to see that band that I've lived my life around, since 8th grade. Which I won't pay.

Mirage was f*cking $16, for 5th row center. I have the stub to prove it!:(

i hear you ... and i will not willingly bend over for the farewell tour in a year or two i don't need to hear Rhiannon that badly

[FM77]

I am going to see several shows but I don't have to pay for tickets. If I did, I would not pay $750 but it's fine if others do. I think these shows will be great and there are plenty of seats in the arena for all.

[Villavic]

[QUOTE=HomerMcvie;1124352

Mirage was f*cking $16, for 5th row center. I have the stub to prove it!:([/QUOTE]


Business model has changed radically. Tours used to support album sales. Now the tour is what they actually selling

$750 is not fine for me. But I payed anyway cause I'm loosing my mind :)

[shackin'up]

Wow. People seem pissed here...

I'm pissed that it will cost me a F*CKING RIDICULOUS $750 for a good seat to see that band that I've lived my life around, since 8th grade. Which I won't pay.

Mirage was f*cking $16, for 5th row center. I have the stub to prove it!:(

For that money, you can buy a ticket to the Netherlands next year, visit Amsterdam, and pay about 85 dollars for a perfect general admission place on the Floor. AND meet ME for free. Hey, I'll buy you a beer or two, too.

[jbrownsjr]

For that money, you can buy a ticket to the Netherlands next year, visit Amsterdam, and pay about 85 dollars for a perfect general admission place on the Floor. AND meet ME for free. Hey, I'll buy you a beer or two, too.

Where do I sign???!!!

[Macfanforever]

Wow.OMG.

I have to say they are human like us.They are getting older like us .We all take risks every day.

I hope and pray that John will be OK to tour.Mac is no Mac without the Mac.

Like said earlier on other posts the tix will get refunded if somebody gets ill or other reasons .It happened many times already with Stevie and FM shows.

I had no problem with Stubhub refunding me for the canceled Stevie's NYC Webster show.And Comcast Tix for her canceled Atlantic City show the same week.The same goes for Ticketmaster.They will all send the tix charges back on your credit card company.

Since I dont travel 3000 miles or other countries to see shows and stay in my 300 to 500 or so miles radius.I would just write it off if I already traveled to the show like it happen a couple of times.I just make the best out of the trip since I'm a big fan of sightseeing. I will just eat the gas and toll charges and other travel charges and just make the best of it.I probably be more upset worrying about whoever being sick in the band then the waste of my time and gas and my nights say there in the venue area.

I do feel for you guys that have travel all those miles and there was no show.

They cant help if a band member gets Ill at the last minute if a day or two before showtime the promoters should give out a news release in ample time for us travelers to not go.

At this point I'm just worried about my health will be by the time of the tour starts.I have not missed a FM tour since the Dance tour.

Ticket prices is another complete topic.So far they are not bad as I thought they would be.I was predicting around US$250 bucks.

I think US$125.00 to 200.00 is the average for tix these days.I do remember the $15 tix prices along with the $10 tee shirts with a $5 tourbook plus a buck soda and gas was 75 cents a gallon.

[Villavic]

For that money, you can buy a ticket to the Netherlands next year, visit Amsterdam, and pay about 85 dollars for a perfect general admission place on the Floor. AND meet ME for free. Hey, I'll buy you a beer or two, too.

Photo included???
Would love to visit Amsterdam, Marken, Volendam!!
3 beers please :)

[teedeerocks]

I hope S & L get along this tour as well as they did last tour because I didn't have the opportunity to see them last time.All of the highlights I saw were either on You Tube or heard about here(thanks everyone). Whether their interactions were real or fake is neither here nor there:xoxo: but it must have been entertaining either way.I just hope that magic is still there.I'd really be pissed if I paid those outrageous prices for tickets and S & L come out all ****faced.Just a fleeting thought....

[michelej1]

There are going to be fewer songs for them to interact on, but I am sure they will still have their moments. If Sara is not in the setlist, then they will make contact on another song. Just no 9 minute song intros.

Personally, I hope for Angel. But I've been doing that for many years, decades now.

Michele

[louielouie2000]

Personally, I hope for Angel. But I've been doing that for many years, decades now.

I would be willing to bet they might just dust off Angel this tour. They've performed most of the other lesser known Mac songs the past 10 years.

Personally, I'd way rather hear Straight Back. But with Chris back in the picture, I'm not sure that's going to happen. Real estate is limited!

[Jondalar]

I would be willing to bet they might just dust off Angel this tour. They've performed most of the other lesser known Mac songs the past 10 years.

Personally, I'd way rather hear Straight Back. But with Chris back in the picture, I'm not sure that's going to happen. Real estate is limited!

I would love for them to do That's Alright.

[michelej1]

Personally, I'd way rather hear Straight Back. But with Chris back in the picture, I'm not sure that's going to happen. Real estate is limited!

They could do something with Straight Back where Chris came out from behind the piano when they shared a vocal and make it seem more like a duet, which is a dynamic Chris and Stevie have never created on stage before. The fans would like that. But I don't think FM would actually do it.

Michele

[jmn3]

They could do something with Straight Back where Chris came out from behind the piano when they shared a vocal and make it seem more like a duet, which is a dynamic Chris and Stevie have never created on stage before. The fans would like that. But I don't think FM would actually do it.

Michele

Yeah that would be pretty interesting and the audience would eat it up, but you're right, it would likely never happen. Chris is already on record as saying she never enjoys when she has to come out from behind the keys (World Turning, Everywhere, Tusk).

I would love for this tour (and at this point, it's very likely this could be IT for the band) to shed some light on Tango and Mirage. Straight Back, That's Alright, Hold Me, Book of Love, Tango (the song), Seven Wonders, Little Lies, Isn't it Midnight, would all be great to hear. As would When I See You Again and Family Man....kidding! :laugh:

[teedeerocks]

Empire State would be awesome!!:]

[chiliD]

They could do something with Straight Back where Chris came out from behind the piano when they shared a vocal and make it seem more like a duet, which is a dynamic Chris and Stevie have never created on stage before. The fans would like that. But I don't think FM would actually do it.

Michele

Well, back in '87, with just Christine on piano & Stevie singing, they did "Has Anyone Ever Written Anything For You". That's about the only time, I've seen JUST THE GIRLS on stage together. It's a dynamic that I thought they could've exploited much more on subsequent tours, but they never did. Definitely think they could revisit that dynamic for this upcoming tour.

That song followed by just Rick, Mick & John on stage doing "I Loved Another Woman" was just an incredible back-to-back performance. That '87 tour is pretty close to the best live shows that Fleetwood Mac has done in their history (that I've seen in person, that is)...the song choices, the execution of each song, the pacing of the set, and even the stage lighting. Doesn't get much better than that tour. (I hope they can at least make a run at it this coming tour)

[sasja]

For that money, you can buy a ticket to the Netherlands next year, visit Amsterdam, and pay about 85 dollars for a perfect general admission place on the Floor. AND meet ME for free. Hey, I'll buy you a beer or two, too.


Sorry to burst your bubble but tickets from Newark to AMS have been over $1000 for the past 5 years now, and, this year, are up to $1500.

$750. Man, I wish. :(

[Autumn Ocean]

They could do something with Straight Back where Chris came out from behind the piano when they shared a vocal and make it seem more like a duet, which is a dynamic Chris and Stevie have never created on stage before. The fans would like that. But I don't think FM would actually do it.

Michele

I don't think LB would like it. He sees SN and CM as his harem...

[Jondalar]

Sorry to burst your bubble but tickets from Newark to AMS have been over $1000 for the past 5 years now, and, this year, are up to $1500.

$750. Man, I wish. :(

Cheap seats are about $150 and the best seats are around $1800?
Whew! Lord have mercy!

[michelej1]

I don't think LB would like it. He sees SN and CM as his harem...

I highly doubt that. Aside from that, I've never known that men with harems had a problem with the concubines getting together for a song. Indeed, the King of Siam used to enjoy it quite a bit, when his wives did.

Michele

[Jondalar]

Still not believing these prices. I remember getting a cheap seat for $40.

[crista]

Business model has changed radically. Tours used to support album sales. Now the tour is what they actually selling



^^exactly this

[Hawkeye]

I think I've said this before but their actual face value ticket prices aren't anymore then they normally are. It's the fact that ticketmaster is actually partnering up with scalpers that tickets are reaching the 500 to 1000 range.

[Jondalar]

I think I've said this before but their actual face value ticket prices aren't anymore then they normally are. It's the fact that ticketmaster is actually partnering up with scalpers that tickets are reaching the 500 to 1000 range.

Well where can I get a ticket around the $40 range for Columbus, Ohio show? You know I love Fleetwood Mac, but I would rather make my house payment.

[shackin'up]

Sorry to burst your bubble but tickets from Newark to AMS have been over $1000 for the past 5 years now, and, this year, are up to $1500.

$750. Man, I wish. :(

You have to search, but there are still 650 eurotickets if you are early enough..

[sasja]

You have to search, but there are still 650 eurotickets if you are early enough..

Yes, from Amsterdam to Newark has always been much cheaper than flying from here to Amsterdam. And I search for affordable tickets almost daily, year around.
Trust me, I know it well, I have to fly home to visit Netherlands relatives often, when they come here, it's much cheaper flying. Who knows why.

[michelej1]

Huffington Post June 2, 2014 by Wendi Aarons

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/wendi-aarons/80s-music-_b_5374751.html

Video may have killed the radio star, but never fear, music fans! Bands that were big in the '80s are coming to a stadium near you this summer, for "reunion," "farewell," and "redux" tours -- because the radio star needs to pay for college for his kids, and rebuild the retirement account that was wasted on hookers and blow back in the peak earning years. Here's a helpful reminder of who's on tour this summer, why you may want to go, what to wear if you do, and the substance that'll help you drown your sorrows when you remember that you first listened to most of this music on a cassette tape.

Fleetwood Mac: Why is this the most expensive concert of the entire summer? Baby, I don't wanna know-oh. But we're guessing there's some kind of hazard pay involved to lure five musicians with a history of infighting back to the same stage. Will there be any songs that WON'T lead to sing-alongs and interpretive Stevie-ish dancing by audience members? Oh, God, no. This audience will even lose their s*** over "Tusk." Therefore, dress yourself in your gypsy-thrift-shop finest for maximum twirling. Or, if you're a man, pull your black leather blazer out of the attic and join Lindsey Buckingham in looking like a 65-year-old Narc.

Recreational substance: Grass.

[Tusky]

Well, back in '87, with just Christine on piano & Stevie singing, they did "Has Anyone Ever Written Anything For You". That's about the only time, I've seen JUST THE GIRLS on stage together.

...Something which Stevie raps about in the intro here...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv4uIdH_gdc

[FM77]

I still say prices will drop WAY down as shows gets closer. There are very few people who are going to pay hundreds of dollars for this show. Some, yes but not the majority. The die hards bought the meet and greet and even those aren't sold out. These ticket prices are not reflective of true demand. It is speculating demand. Scalpers have manipulated the market but when tix don't sell on secondary market, prices fall.

[Eugene]

This is absolutely correct; there really is no demand for a 2nd Philly show, and no reason to have 3 NYC metro area shows. Just look at how many tickets there are on Stubhub. As I've said previously, there will be a tremendous fire sale on tickets the day before/day of shows.

[Nicks Fan]

I feel that anyone who would have paid for the VIP tickets already bought them. There is not likely going to be anyone else buying them so closesr to the show date you will see ticket prices drop.