Lindsey Buckingham "Talks Music" 9:30 pm

[michelej1]

Lindsey Buckingham Talks Music, Studio, 9.30pm

Sydney Morning Herald

http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/friday-april-11-20140405-365iu.html

Talks Music is like a British version of Inside the Actors Studio, but with musos instead of thespians. Host Malcolm Gerrie brings all the enthusiasm (but none of the unction) that James Lipton brings to ITAS, and the music-student audience sits enraptured and gets to ask questions at the end. Tonight's instalment is fascinating, as Lindsey Buckingham of Fleetwood Mac reflects on his life and career. And he brings a guitar with him - all the better to show the finer points of his writing and playing styles. Musical interludes include an instrumental from early album Buckingham Nicks, and a stunning blast of Big Love.


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/friday-april-11-20140405-365iu.html#ixzz2y8a0HcIA

[michelej1]

and a stunning blast of Big Love.

This is the problem, Elle. If it was only in concert, I could take it. But as it is...

Michele

[sodascouts]

I understand why he keeps pulling out "Big Love" for interviews and appearances, especially since it's not like he has new music to promote. It's like when you find an outfit you look absolutely gorgeous in, you want to wear it to every special event you attend, lol. Lindsey knows "Big Love" will knock 'em dead, so it's his "go-to" piece. I agree that it gets tiresome for those of us who follow him closely, but for the casual listener, it's a tried-and-true way to give them a taste of the awesomeness that is Lindsey Buckingham. ;)

[shackin'up]

I agree that it gets tiresome for those of us who follow him closely, but for the casual listener, it's a tried-and-true way to give them a taste of the awesomeness that is Lindsey Buckingham. ;)

Spot on Nancy. I do understand it too. Let's be fair, if I try to impress new friends with Lindsey's music, I return to this version of Big love too. Everybody knows the original and is blown away by this interpretation. It just shows him and his muse in three minutes.

[elle]

This is the problem, Elle. If it was only in concert, I could take it. But as it is...

Michele

next time you feel the need to complain about Big Love, please read what they said below, Michele (and not just you but also all others calling for Big Love to cease and desist, or to return back to it's 80s full-band album version should re-read this too):

I understand why he keeps pulling out "Big Love" for interviews and appearances, especially since it's not like he has new music to promote. It's like when you find an outfit you look absolutely gorgeous in, you want to wear it to every special event you attend, lol. Lindsey knows "Big Love" will knock 'em dead, so it's his "go-to" piece. I agree that it gets tiresome for those of us who follow him closely, but for the casual listener, it's a tried-and-true way to give them a taste of the awesomeness that is Lindsey Buckingham. ;)
:thumbsup:
Spot on Nancy. I do understand it too. Let's be fair, if I try to impress new friends with Lindsey's music, I return to this version of Big love too. Everybody knows the original and is blown away by this interpretation. It just shows him and his muse in three minutes.
:thumbsup:

[WildHearted]

I love acoustic Big Love, but I think he's got plenty of other songs in that acoustic Big Love style at this point that he could pull out one of them for a change. I know it was a hit back in the day, but I don't think it's been as well remembered as most of their others so I don't really think the "everyone knows it" argument holds all that much weight, IMO. And even if the concern is that it needs to be a song at least some people recognize: Lindsey could take a different song and give it the same treatment. It'd require some time and effort, yeah, but it'd probably be nice for him to start playing something different after 20 years of this one getting so much publicity...

[elle]

I love acoustic Big Love, but I think he's got plenty of other songs in that acoustic Big Love style at this point that he could pull out one of them for a change. I know it was a hit back in the day, but I don't think it's been as well remembered as most of their others so I don't really think the "everyone knows it" argument holds all that much weight, IMO. And even if the concern is that it needs to be a song at least some people recognize: Lindsey could take a different song and give it the same treatment. It'd require some time and effort, yeah, but it'd probably be nice for him to start playing something different after 20 years of this one getting so much publicity...

see "everyone knows it" (the original version) part of the argument is the only one that i don't really care for, and i don't think is a concern, at all. plus at the FM shows in Europe, unlike in the US, it seems that everyone does in fact know the acoustic version. but whether someone knows the song or hears it for the first time is not the important part.

the important part of Nancy's and Gerald's posts is that this song never fails to blow everyone away. even or especially if they never ever heard of Lindsey Buckingham and/or Big Love before. it best represents what he can do.

and, i think he tried to reproduce or give big love treatment with his other songs, most notable with the whole album being treated acoustically (UTS), but he could never quite reach the complete effect that the acoustic Big Love has. like Nancy said - if you need to impress someone, you usually have something that you know is tried and true and will work every single time. Big Love is that for Lindsey. and like Gerald said, it's awesomeness that is LB condensed in 3 minutes.

[vivfox]

Like Michele, I am very tired of this version of BL but I suppose it's Lindsey's way of not feeling pressured to perform GYOW for the billionth time.

[michelej1]

next time you feel the need to complain about Big Love, please read what they said below, Michele (and not just you but also all others calling for Big Love to cease and desist, or to return back to it's 80s full-band album version should re-read this too):


If he is going to continue playing it that way in concert, then he should stop pulling it out for every radio show and high school assembly he does, to boot. When he's making public appearances bore those people with Time Precious Time. But don't play Big Love for eons -- I first saw it before The Dance -- on stage and then play it every chance you get off stage as well.

It's lazy. It's been 20 years now, and there are other songs he could adapt to garner the same awestruck response, if he'd just work on them. For my money, Tango is one of them.

Michele

[michelej1]

Also Elle, you know that post was directed at you after you said that we didn't need to hear IKINW again. IKINW is extremely rare compared to Big Love. It's like an extinct animal species.

Michele

[shackin'up]

AND I want to hear IKINW again. And again. And again.

[elle]

Also Elle, you know that post was directed at you after you said that we didn't need to hear IKINW again. IKINW is extremely rare compared to Big Love. It's like an extinct animal species.

Michele

AND I want to hear IKINW again. And again. And again.

well, here is the deal my dear friends (and you know this much better than me even if you choose to ignore it for the purpose of the discussion):

LB will have 8 songs the most in FM setlist this year. you know he will definitely do (whether you or i or other *fans* want to hear every single one of these or not):
big love
gyow
tusk
shn
ngba
isa
new song?

so that's 7. which means he has a choice of one song that he will pull out as a "deep cut". if your choice for that ONE song is IKINW then ok. because that is what you are saying.

if i had to choose between IKINW or WMYTYTO or WATL or the Ledge - my choice would definitely be one of those other 3. if it's IKINW or Tango or Come, i would have to think. if it's IKINW or NTF, probably i would want to hear IKINW. if the choice is IKINW or BTLH, my choice would be BTLH.

[luminol]

I'm new here and only recently re-discovered my Fleetwood Mac love from years ago, so I'm not as overexposed to the solo Big Love arrangement as others here. But I definitely understand the desire to hear new arrangements of other songs - it's variety! I've closely followed other artists in the past and it gets disappointing hearing the same rendition of the same song time after time, years after years, after putting in the time and effort to tune in and hear all of these special appearances. I remember being like "Ugh, really? THIS again? Why am I up taping this at 1am for this exact same song?!" I can definitely relate to that frustration. (Of course they're playing for the broader audience and not "to me".. but... You have decades of music to choose from and you keep playing the same track over and over? It's just boring!)

I love Big Love and the solo version is extremely impressive... but if he does do it every performance, it is bound to get old. I do understand why he chooses to do it (it really is a monster of 3ish minutes and bound to impress). Heck, it still blows me away since I'm still kinda new to that arrangement myself :o. But I wouldn't want to hear it on everything.

I completely agree with wanting to hear an acoustic version of Tango In The Night!

(Does he ever do Caroline?)

[elle]

I remember being like "Ugh, really? THIS again? Why am I up taping this at 1am for this exact same song?!" I can definitely relate to that frustration.

don't know whether he ever performed Caroline, i'm sure someone will know?

re Big Love, he usually does it at various Q&As, as one of the 3 or so songs he performs in between the interview parts.

but he doesn't do it on late night tv appearances, like the ones you are thinking of. when he was promoting his last solo album, SWS, he was on several either daytime or late night shows and he did either acoustic SWS, or IOOT, or EOT, and from what i remember he also considered SAC. during interviews, he did RAB, BL, and IAW. at that skynews interview he did acoustic the Chain, Big Love, and i can't remember what was the 3rd song. so yes, he usually does Big love as one of the songs he performs, but it's not the only song he ever does, and when he's promoting new albums he performs new songs, and various ones on different shows.

[HelloMonster]

:xoxo:don't know whether he ever performed Caroline, i'm sure someone will know?

re Big Love, he usually does it at various Q&As, as one of the 3 or so songs he performs in between the interview parts.

but he doesn't do it on late night tv appearances, like the ones you are thinking of. when he was promoting his last solo album, SWS, he was on several either daytime or late night shows and he did either acoustic SWS, or IOOT, or EOT, and from what i remember he also considered SAC. during interviews, he did RAB, BL, and IAW. at that skynews interview he did acoustic the Chain, Big Love, and i can't remember what was the 3rd song. so yes, he usually does Big love as one of the songs he performs, but it's not the only song he ever does, and when he's promoting new albums he performs new songs, and various ones on different shows.

He did Big Love on SNL ;) oh and him and Stevie did it on Letterman I think?

[bombaysaffires]

well, here is the deal my dear friends (and you know this much better than me even if you choose to ignore it for the purpose of the discussion):

LB will have 8 songs the most in FM setlist this year. you know he will definitely do (whether you or i or other *fans* want to hear every single one of these or not):
big love
gyow
tusk
shn
ngba
isa
new song?

so that's 7. which means he has a choice of one song that he will pull out as a "deep cut". if your choice for that ONE song is IKINW then ok. because that is what you are saying.

if i had to choose between IKINW or WMYTYTO or WATL or the Ledge - my choice would definitely be one of those other 3. if it's IKINW or Tango or Come, i would have to think. if it's IKINW or NTF, probably i would want to hear IKINW. if the choice is IKINW or BTLH, my choice would be BTLH.


He can kill ISA anyyyyyytime as far as I'm concerned. Enough.

[elle]

:xoxo:

He did Big Love on SNL ;) oh and him and Stevie did it on Letterman I think?

lol, well SNL that was a part of the sketch.

Letterman was during the dance era, 1997/98 - that's when BL done acoustically was still a novelty.

[elle]

He can kill ISA anyyyyyytime as far as I'm concerned. Enough.

does anybody here monitor twitter when FM show is going on? LB is barely mentioned by name, until BL or ISA comes on. then there's an eruption of tweets about him being the greatest guitarist on the planet. you think he'll stop performing ISA?? ;)

[sodascouts]

I hope he never stops doing ISA. I've said it before and I'll say it agson - ISA isn't just a song, it's an experience. Its slow burn before ratcheting up in intensity and its length makes it less effective for appearances and guest spots, though. A truncated version wouldn't have nearly as much power.

[bombaysaffires]

does anybody here monitor twitter when FM show is going on? LB is barely mentioned by name, until BL or ISA comes on. then there's an eruption of tweets about him being the greatest guitarist on the planet. you think he'll stop performing ISA?? ;)

yeah yeah I know…. but it still puts me to sleep. It's time to kill it. There are plenty of other songs that he could use to showcase his electric guitar god screaming solo capabilities and people would get off on those. They just like his great energy and drama on a "classic" style guitar solo. I get it. Just showcase it on something better. I admit I've never been a fan of the lyrics… they just seem so…. I dunno "I slip and I fall and I die" has always bothered me for some reason. You just click with some songs and not with others.
:shrug:

I agree won't happen. But I can dream…...

[michelej1]

well, here is the deal my dear friends (and you know this much better than me even if you choose to ignore it for the purpose of the discussion):

LB will have 8 songs the most in FM setlist this year. you know he will definitely do (whether you or i or other *fans* want to hear every single one of these or not):
big love
gyow
tusk
shn
ngba
isa
new song?



You aren't getting a new song in 2014, so don't count that as #7. Maybe we can revisit that question next year.

Also, he doesn't have to remove Big Love. He can just do it with the band. It will still get a crowd response and a burst of recognition and love.

Yes, IKINW is needed because it's one song that people respond to, even though they don't know it. It's a dance song and I assure you that people will talk about it on twitter:p.

Lindsey had 9 songs for The Dance and I think he can get 9 songs this time. For The Dance they were:

ISA
BTLH
Big Love
Go Insane
My Little Demon
NTF
Tusk
GYOW
Second Hand News

[elle]

Lindsey had 9 songs for The Dance and I think he can get 9 songs this time. For The Dance they were:

ISA
BTLH
Big Love
Go Insane
My Little Demon
NTF
Tusk
GYOW
Second Hand News

oh this would give him 4 songs that could be deep cuts, wouldn't that be amazing?? but he didn't even do that many last year... i guess maybe barely if you count NTF, SG, SA and EOTW.

and he insists on doing NGBA these days... i'd be happy if he dropped that one. even if we had 3 deep cuts, that would be spectacular! of course, i don't want to hear NTF, SG, or EOTW that we've heard last year, and i'm glad he finally dropped solos song GI. and i have no wish to hear MLD.

so you are saying we can have BTLH and WATL and WMYTYTO and Tango?? it will never happen but i'd happily take that! :blob2: in fact i'd be ecstatic and start buying tickets for FM shows this year, even! :p :laugh:

but nah, he's getting less adventurous in his old age. :p

[Montclare]

If everyone got to pick Lindsey's 8 songs (if it is indeed 8), what would your dream list be? Mine-

NGBA
SHN
GYOW
ISA
The Ledge
IKINW
That's Enough for Me
EOTW

[michelej1]

so you are saying we can have BTLH and WATL and WMYTYTO and Tango?? it will never happen but i'd happily take that! :blob2: in fact i'd be ecstatic and start buying tickets for FM shows this year, even! :p :laugh:



Well, I'm saying you can have two of those songs and I can have two of my choosing:laugh:. I mean, do you want Tango too? We can share that one.

Michele

[michelej1]

If everyone got to pick Lindsey's 8 songs (if it is indeed 8), what would your dream list be? Mine-



Yes, 8 sounds good because NTF for The Dance was actually just Mick's drum solo and I guess that doesn't really count.

Michele

[elle]

Well, I'm saying you can have two of those songs and I can have two of my choosing:laugh:. I mean, do you want Tango too? We can share that one.

Michele

nope Tango was for you. i was being generous. ;)

i'll take WATL and WMYTYTO, if i get to choose only 2.

[HelloMonster]

Do away with NGBA, man it slows things way too far down. Goodnight, because-this-must-be-a-lullaby down. "So come down and see meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...(Zzz).. aaaaaaaa...(Zzz).. gaaaiiiiinnnn." Replace it with maybe Elle's WATL or SMAP during acoustic time. Or at least speed it up like originally recorded, damn! And hell yeah Tango! But does he have that lung capacity anymore? ;) That's a pretty long O!

[sodascouts]

I despise the way he drags out NGBA in recent years. It completely drains the song of its buoyant energy; he picks the notes so slowly that if you didn't know better, you'd think he was a novice trying to learn the song. As for that "meeeeeeee" bit towards the end.... I know he soaks up the applause an audience feels obligated to give whenever an artist holds a note for more than six beats, but I've never been especially awed by demonstrations of breath control.

I'm not a big fan of IKINW either. I'd like to hear "That's Enough for Me."

[michelej1]

They had a gut-wrenching talk and NGBA said to Lindsey: "It's not me, it's you."

Obviously, the song could sound pretty good, if he'd stop fooling around.

And right, it's not like the audience is applauding because he held a challenging note for a long time. LOL, Nancy: breath control.

Maybe this is the throw-away song he should start doing for radio shows and baby christenings.

Michele

[Montclare]

I do agree he needs to go back to doing NGBA to the way it was originally performed. I always watch the Japan 1977 video and that's how I always think of it, not the way he's been doing it since then.

[luminol]

but he doesn't do it on late night tv appearances, like the ones you are thinking of. when he was promoting his last solo album, SWS, he was on several either daytime or late night shows and he did either acoustic SWS, or IOOT, or EOT, and from what i remember he also considered SAC. during interviews, he did RAB, BL, and IAW. at that skynews interview he did acoustic the Chain, Big Love, and i can't remember what was the 3rd song. so yes, he usually does Big love as one of the songs he performs, but it's not the only song he ever does, and when he's promoting new albums he performs new songs, and various ones on different shows.

Oh yes, I was referring to other bands I used to obsess over back when I had a VHS recorder and would stay up late to watch & record appearances... Only to be disappointed by the song choices :)

I am late to the Lindsey solo party and haven't seen him perform anything (well unless you count that sad Grammy appearance, which is probably best not mentioned ha!). But I've been listening to and loving the Seeds We Sow album over the last months as I've rebirthed my FM love (and subsequently LB interest). IOOT, SWS, Stars Are Crazy are incredible. I'm glad to hear that he does play some variety since he clearly has an immense and impressive catalogue.