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Hawkeye
04-06-2014, 02:14 AM
I personally almost rather NOT have an album before this tour! There I said it. If there was no Christine then I'd be feeling the exact opposite. I'd want a tour behind a new album only if it were the 4 again.

I want at least one tour tho where they don't have to worry about playing new songs while Chris is involved so we can get a bigger variety of their backlougue done. We've gotten a scent amount of rarities from Stevie and Lindsey the past 11 years. I want to increase the odds of getting think about me, isn't it midnight or even why performed.

And honestly for me, the prospect of a song like you make loving fun in the next set feel like a giant surprise song in my mind even tho it isnt in any way. What I'm saying is Christine's third of the set is enough of refresher in the set for a lot of us.

If there are new songs I'll want to hear them the most obviously, but I can't miss songs i don't know exist:laugh: so im fine witha tour in 2014 and an album in 2015, especially if that said album is already being recorded and can be out soon in 2015.

Wdm6789
04-06-2014, 04:53 AM
I'm also not really interested in their new music. I'm sure they still have it and their music is still beautiful. It's just not the same to me.

I only want to see them perform their classics, no new songs, so they can throw in more deep cuts. I'm really hoping for Hold me and Little lies. That's alright would be nice too. Maybe one of Lindsey's from Mirage also.

Hawkeye
04-06-2014, 07:57 AM
Well I'm very interested in their new music, much moreso then their classics so really the correct response would've been no not exactly you don't feel this way :laugh: .

I'm just glad were gonna get at least one leg of 25 songs with Christine in the band and no new songs to worry about fitting in. Th set would painfully write itself then outside the new songs with 0 chance of a surprise. And I also feel differently if it was

1. Tour
2. Start work on new album

Then I wouldn't care how many rarities we got,it wouldn't be worth it, but the way it currently looks like things are gonna pan out is the best case scenario, with most of the album being done before the tour but not actually being released.

mitzo
04-06-2014, 08:10 AM
New album please. Tours and album deep cuts done live are only good if you see them live. And then only once. Albums and new songs last forever.

Richard B
04-06-2014, 09:15 AM
Not me. I want an album real bad as this is such a big deal with CM back in the mix. With so many months before the tour starts, they really should drop an album. Are 10-12 tracks really that hard for 3 band members?

sanders8323
04-06-2014, 09:21 AM
The thing about touring behind a new album with Christine is the fact that the band would most likely be doing 1 or 2 of her songs from it. If there were no new album to tour behind, then you'd probably end up getting in the place of those new songs, songs like "Over My Head" and "Oh Daddy." So that's not really a big loss over hearing the new songs. She's going to do the rest of her Rumours songs, "Say You Love Me" and "Everywhere" anyway, which is all most people care about. So I say go ahead and put out a new album and tour behind it.

Wdm6789
04-06-2014, 09:51 AM
To me, it is much more important to see Christine play her classics in person because I never have seen all five live before, just on YouTube. So this is a big deal for me, and I also think a lot of people would be disappointed if they left out a couple of Christine's classic hits in favor of new songs because she's hasn't performed the classics in 16 years and I think that's what most people come for, when they played new songs in 2013, it was like half time at a football game, everyone got up to go to the bathroom or get more drinks or go smoke outside.

WayOfTheDragon
04-06-2014, 11:15 AM
I really don't think there will be a new album out before this tour. It's going to be your standard traditional Fleetwood Mac show.

elle
04-06-2014, 11:27 AM
I personally almost rather NOT have an album before this tour! There I said it. If there was no Christine then I'd be feeling the exact opposite. I'd want a tour behind a new album only if it were the 4 again.

I want at least one tour tho where they don't have to worry about playing new songs while Chris is involved so we can get a bigger variety of their backlougue done. We've gotten a scent amount of rarities from Stevie and Lindsey the past 11 years. I want to increase the odds of getting think about me, isn't it midnight or even why performed.

i want new album, now! and i don't give a sh*t about yet another oldies tour, the only songs i'm interested in are Chris' oldies since LB's and Sn's FM oldies i've heard tons of times already last year.

you put a nice positive spin, but really, if you think you will get deep cuts, you are delusional. :sorry: (i was that delusional last year. now i know better.) or easily satisfied with crumbs they gave fans with 1 deep cut / songwriter the last few tours.

of course if the new album somehow is out before the tour, i will probably scramble to get some show tickets, that i'm not buying now. as it looks now, it will be another oldies tour. i completely understand all deprived Christine fans wanting to go see it. i really don't get SN or LB fans getting anything out of it. (although i do plan to go to one show to see the 5.) this tour is for the masses, non-fans, and money-grab. from where i stand, it's purely insulting to fans - and this band is well aware there are tons of hard-core fans that follow them around. (at almost every show i've been at last year, there were same 20-30 people there, mostly SN hardcores, all the time.)

elle
04-06-2014, 11:31 AM
To me, it is much more important to see Christine play her classics in person because I never have seen all five live before, just on YouTube. So this is a big deal for me, and I also think a lot of people would be disappointed if they left out a couple of Christine's classic hits in favor of new songs because she's hasn't performed the classics in 16 years and I think that's what most people come for, when they played new songs in 2013, it was like half time at a football game, everyone got up to go to the bathroom or get more drinks or go smoke outside.

most bands have something in their set for the masses that come to hear the hits, and something for hardcore fans too, who see them on every tour. not FM. they don't give a sh*t about hardcores. :shrug:

elle
04-06-2014, 11:33 AM
The thing about touring behind a new album with Christine is the fact that the band would most likely be doing 1 or 2 of her songs from it. If there were no new album to tour behind, then you'd probably end up getting in the place of those new songs, songs like "Over My Head" and "Oh Daddy." So that's not really a big loss over hearing the new songs. She's going to do the rest of her Rumours songs, "Say You Love Me" and "Everywhere" anyway, which is all most people care about. So I say go ahead and put out a new album and tour behind it.

exactly! :thumbsup:

olive
04-06-2014, 11:53 AM
I wonder what the ticket price is going to be for the privilege of hearing a couple of new songs ?

BLY
04-06-2014, 12:14 PM
Not me. I want an album real bad as this is such a big deal with CM back in the mix. With so many months before the tour starts, they really should drop an album. Are 10-12 tracks really that hard for 3 band members?


Agree considering a big part of the album has already been recorded.

Richard B
04-06-2014, 12:30 PM
Agree considering a big part of the album has already been recorded.

I'm surprised that people would prefer only a tour. This lineup has not seen a studio album since 1987. The band already explored the whole reunion with a concert tour only to support a live album and DVD in 1997. So a studio album really is in store. It would make the upcoming tour even sweeter, especially if a new album is decent.

SpyNote
04-06-2014, 12:34 PM
From the band's side, the person who wants a new album the most is Lindsey because he's the one who consistently enjoys being in the studio. Everyone else is pretty much ambivalent. Unfortunately, there's no money in releasing new material (usually Stevie's argument), unless you sell more than a million copies, which the band probably wouldn't be able to do anymore. Most of it goes to the record label, which is true. But if the band tours, they are always guaranteed a minimum performance fee, which is negotiated beforehand is usually quite high. So really it's a no-brainer for the band. Less work, more pay.

I've always wondered about the band's performance minimums. I'd guess that Stevie would take no less than 100K per show.

Wdm6789
04-06-2014, 12:53 PM
most bands have something in their set for the masses that come to hear the hits, and something for hardcore fans too, who see them on every tour. not FM. they don't give a sh*t about hardcores. :shrug:


Yeah it recent years they do seem like they just mean business.

SpyNote
04-06-2014, 12:59 PM
Yeah it recent years they do seem like they just mean business.

And that's OK. When I met Stevie in December, I really felt like the DVD signing was all business to her. Sure, she was happy to see the support of her fans, but at the end of the day, it was about the bottom line.

BLY
04-06-2014, 01:03 PM
This is it ! If the band is going to release a new CD,this summer is the time to drop it period. God willing the tour can go on for a year or so. As stated from many we have had the hits tour since 2009. It was great to have a couple new songs on the last tour. They could do Sad a Angel ( assuming it will be on the new disc) with maybe a couple more new tracks. 1. Release a new album this summer.2. Release remastered Mirage and Tango before the new album. The new album will sell if they market it injunction with the buzz of this tour. Releasing the album after the tour isn't a good call.

StreetAngel86
04-06-2014, 05:41 PM
i would have rather they had a new album out sans Christine :sorry:
I love SYW and I think SYW part deux with just Stevie and Lindsey singing could have been something great.

But since Christine is outta retirement, and I never saw The Dance live or anything like that, a tour is probably the better idea.

louielouie2000
04-06-2014, 06:40 PM
I agree about being torn in regards to hearing new material vs deep cuts live. However, I think I'd rather have new material. But I'd "settle" for a combo of both. :cool:

Macfanforever
04-06-2014, 07:09 PM
Like I said before I hope they dont miss the OP to record when Chris is onboard.

mylittledemon
04-06-2014, 09:10 PM
I personally almost rather NOT have an album before this tour! There I said it. If there was no Christine then I'd be feeling the exact opposite. I'd want a tour behind a new album only if it were the 4 again.


Hmm I kinda know how you feel. I really want them to do another album with Chris. I don't care if it comes after this tour, and before the next, or whatever. I will be a little pissed off if they don't do a new record at all, though.

jbrownsjr
04-06-2014, 09:40 PM
i want new album, now! and i don't give a sh*t about yet another oldies tour, the only songs i'm interested in are Chris' oldies since LB's and Sn's FM oldies i've heard tons of times already last year.

you put a nice positive spin, but really, if you think you will get deep cuts, you are delusional. :sorry: (i was that delusional last year. now i know better.) or easily satisfied with crumbs they gave fans with 1 deep cut / songwriter the last few tours.

of course if the new album somehow is out before the tour, i will probably scramble to get some show tickets, that i'm not buying now. as it looks now, it will be another oldies tour. i completely understand all deprived Christine fans wanting to go see it. i really don't get SN or LB fans getting anything out of it. (although i do plan to go to one show to see the 5.) this tour is for the masses, non-fans, and money-grab. from where i stand, it's purely insulting to fans - and this band is well aware there are tons of hard-core fans that follow them around. (at almost every show i've been at last year, there were same 20-30 people there, mostly SN hardcores, all the time.)

New album please!!! I would die if it was just Stevie and Linsdey again (it's so tired). So glad Christine is back, but I want new music.

secondhandchain
04-06-2014, 09:46 PM
Didn't we have a whole discussion about this? How could you NOT want a new album, new music. It's a no brainer. Seeing them perform Rhiannon or Don't Stop for the millionth time. ZZZZZ

bombaysaffires
04-06-2014, 10:55 PM
Didn't we have a whole discussion about this? How could you NOT want a new album, new music. It's a no brainer. Seeing them perform Rhiannon or Don't Stop for the millionth time. ZZZZZ

Amen.:angel:

goldustsongbird
05-07-2014, 01:05 PM
I'm interested in new songs, but not a new album. As rehearsed as their shows are, I'd rather have a long, fresh setlist. Their last few albums have been so overproduced by Lindsey and Chris Lord-Alge. They're just blah.

Maybe Chris can convince them to pull back on the whispery crap and layered guitars. I think SYW would have been different if she had been there, not just in terms of her vocal presence, but song direction. I hope they're taking it back to basics, even if Lindsey does want another double album. :cool:

Matt Lucas
05-07-2014, 01:36 PM
Releasing new music is the principal difference between a creative entity and a nostalgia act. For the last decade or more, FM has been teetering perilously close to becoming a dinosaur oldies act. The EP brought them back from the edge a bit, but only a new album can change the perception that they are an oldies act. Well...that or they can put their money into locating the Fountain of Youth so they can return to their prime ages.

I will always prefer new original recorded music over yet another tour. Having said that, I know that, in today's music industry, the only way to make a significant amount of cash is through touring. So it's a necessary thing. Otherwise, there is no band.

But the best thing FM could do right now is to really buckle down and finish the album, or get it very close to completion, with at least a couple of singles ready to go before the tour starts. It's possible...but for this band, the possible quickly...or rather, slowly [as in, over months and years]...becomes the impossible.

matt

jbrownsjr
05-07-2014, 02:07 PM
Amen.:angel:

Triple Amen!:angel:

bombaysaffires
05-07-2014, 02:34 PM
I wonder if they are factoring in their ages and thinking the physical demands of a tour can't be sustained for a whole lot longer so let's get on the road and rake in all that tour money while we are still able to withstand the rigors of the road. Working in the studio can be spread out over a longer time, it can stop and start to accommodate people's personal lives and whatnot… maybe they want the cash from touring while they can still physically do two hours a night and all the travel and changing time zones and such…. Or maybe that's too logical an explanation to fit this band's thought process...:distress:

michelej1
05-07-2014, 04:10 PM
I wonder if they are factoring in their ages and thinking the physical demands of a tour can't be sustained for a whole lot longer so let's get on the road and rake in all that tour money while we are still able to withstand the rigors of the road. Working in the studio can be spread out over a longer time, it can stop and start to accommodate people's personal lives and whatnot… maybe they want the cash from touring while they can still physically do two hours a night :

Word on the street is it's THREE hours a night. Michele

elle
05-07-2014, 05:35 PM
I'm interested in new songs, but not a new album. As rehearsed as their shows are, I'd rather have a long, fresh setlist. Their last few albums have been so overproduced by Lindsey and Chris Lord-Alge. They're just blah.

i'm not sure what are you talking about. they all together ever put out a few albums.

elle
05-07-2014, 05:38 PM
Releasing new music is the principal difference between a creative entity and a nostalgia act. For the last decade or more, FM has been teetering perilously close to becoming a dinosaur oldies act. The EP brought them back from the edge a bit, but only a new album can change the perception that they are an oldies act. Well...that or they can put their money into locating the Fountain of Youth so they can return to their prime ages.

thank you for spelling it out so nicely - there are people on this board who don''t get that.

bombaysaffires
05-07-2014, 05:55 PM
Word on the street is it's THREE hours a night. Michele

This. :laugh:

BLY
05-07-2014, 06:03 PM
thank you for spelling it out so nicely - there are people on this board who don''t get that.



I second that! :laugh:

aleuzzi
05-07-2014, 06:13 PM
i want new album, now! and i don't give a sh*t about yet another oldies tour, the only songs i'm interested in are Chris' oldies since LB's and Sn's FM oldies i've heard tons of times already last year.

you put a nice positive spin, but really, if you think you will get deep cuts, you are delusional. :sorry: (i was that delusional last year. now i know better.) or easily satisfied with crumbs they gave fans with 1 deep cut / songwriter the last few tours.

of course if the new album somehow is out before the tour, i will probably scramble to get some show tickets, that i'm not buying now. as it looks now, it will be another oldies tour. i completely understand all deprived Christine fans wanting to go see it. i really don't get SN or LB fans getting anything out of it. (although i do plan to go to one show to see the 5.) this tour is for the masses, non-fans, and money-grab. from where i stand, it's purely insulting to fans - and this band is well aware there are tons of hard-core fans that follow them around. (at almost every show i've been at last year, there were same 20-30 people there, mostly SN hardcores, all the time.)

Yep. Yep. Yep.

Nicks Fan
05-07-2014, 09:25 PM
I want the album out before the tour so that they actually have something to tour behind. I know Chris being back is big news but you can be sure the show will be allot if the same songs they did without in Chris on the past 3 tours and that is a great shame. If they actuallly had online chats with the fans they might see how fed up most fans are at the stale setlist that they have been doing for almost 20 years. If this really is coming to an end why not dig deep and pull out 5-10 songs that are not overplayed or have never been played in concert. I think they would be surprised at the positive reaction. I just don't get how they can not be bored playing the same songs every tour.

My wish is that they change up the encores (No World Turning please), Drop the stale Big Love I'm So Afraid guitar solo showcase of Lindsey's in favor of other songs which showcase his great playing and also get Stevie to change up her songs so we actualy get more then 1 deep cut.

It feels like a slap in the face when they just toured last year and chances are allot of LB anf SN's song selections for the new tour will be the same ones from last year.

Danigirl
05-08-2014, 11:28 AM
Being that I have yet to see them live, and never thought I would see the band it's entirety, a tour without new material is my preference. I really just want to see them jam though! New or old material.

MikeVielhaber
05-08-2014, 11:40 AM
I want the album out before the tour so that they actually have something to tour behind. I know Chris being back is big news but you can be sure the show will be allot if the same songs they did without in Chris on the past 3 tours and that is a great shame. If they actuallly had online chats with the fans they might see how fed up most fans are at the stale setlist that they have been doing for almost 20 years. If this really is coming to an end why not dig deep and pull out 5-10 songs that are not overplayed or have never been played in concert. I think they would be surprised at the positive reaction. I just don't get how they can not be bored playing the same songs every tour.

My wish is that they change up the encores (No World Turning please), Drop the stale Big Love I'm So Afraid guitar solo showcase of Lindsey's in favor of other songs which showcase his great playing and also get Stevie to change up her songs so we actualy get more then 1 deep cut.

It feels like a slap in the face when they just toured last year and chances are allot of LB anf SN's song selections for the new tour will be the same ones from last year.

The people here do not represent the majority of concert goers when you're playing basketball arenas. Most of them go there to see songs like Landslide and Go Your Own Way. They all have many songs that they basically have to play. They played 6 different songs in 2013 from 2009 and 2 of them were new. How many new songs do you think they would play from a new album? Maybe 5 or so? And once you put in the new songs how many rarely or never played old songs do you think they'll play? Probably none.

I would rather have the new album, but not because it's going to dramatically change the set list. It won't.