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Wdm6789
03-22-2014, 03:32 PM
Anyone else's favorite Fleetwood Mac song? Does anyone have any cool like behind the scenes information or trivia about the song (writing, recording etc.) and music video like more details than the Wikipedia page?
vivfox
03-22-2014, 10:37 PM
Have you seen the youtube videos about the behind the scenes of the making of the Hold Me video?
WayOfTheDragon
03-22-2014, 10:48 PM
I'd say it is my favorite of their studio productions. I like the songs that have a lot of Christine and Lindsey collaboration. There was a radio interview around the time the Mirage album came out, where the interviewer asked who did the deep voice ("come on and..") in the song, and Christine said that it was Lindsey's voice which had been recorded on a sped-up tape and then played back at normal speed.
Wdm6789
03-22-2014, 11:33 PM
Have you seen the youtube videos about the behind the scenes of the making of the Hold Me video?
I have seen the one with just Stevie, are there more?
I'd say it is my favorite of their studio productions. I like the songs that have a lot of Christine and Lindsey collaboration. There was a radio interview around the time the Mirage album came out, where the interviewer asked who did the deep voice ("come on and..") in the song, and Christine said that it was Lindsey's voice which had been recorded on a sped-up tape and then played back at normal speed.
I would like if the beginning of the song was longer, maybe one more short verse, before all the chorus, it could have been a four minute song.
But even with all that repetitive chorus, I never get tired of it. It shows what a great craftsman Lindsey was with putting together the songs. I think that in Lindsey and Christine's songs the lyrics are more simple like its part of the music, like another instrument, they might have a few songs that are more poetic, or have a message behind it like some of their stuff on Rumours, but that's what Stevie's songs were like. Stevie's were more poetic and usually had a deep meaning or story along with it.
SteveMacD
03-22-2014, 11:40 PM
Not my favorite by a long shot, but I LOVE McVie's bass lines on that song.
Hawkeye
03-22-2014, 11:42 PM
Eh, I'm glad most people love this song and are even able to call it their favorite Mac song ever, but for me it doesn't even make my top 20 of just Christine's songs even. Probably my least favorite "hit" next to everywhere.
SteveMacD
03-22-2014, 11:46 PM
Eh, I'm glad most people love this song and are even able to call it their favorite Mac song ever, but for me it doesn't even make my top 20 of just Christine's songs even. Probably my least favorite "hit" next to everywhere.
I can't even give it that. At least "Everywhere" has a classic Brit pop sound.
Wdm6789
03-22-2014, 11:55 PM
It just sounds so nice. I have not heard the live version from the Mirage tour back in 1982 and I really want to hear how they did Hold Me live.
I love the music video too, very 1982. Did anyone have the privilege of living back then? Wasn't Hold Me a big hit on the radio and MTV?
MikeInNV
03-23-2014, 08:56 AM
Eh, I'm glad most people love this song and are even able to call it their favorite Mac song ever, but for me it doesn't even make my top 20 of just Christine's songs even. Probably my least favorite "hit" next to everywhere.
Ditto. I thought I was the only one.
aleuzzi
03-23-2014, 10:27 AM
^^^I always enjoyed it. But, oddly, rarely consider it when I think of Fleetwood Mac songs. In my mind, it conjures up the early MTV age, so I associate it more with Men at Work, Madness, The Tubes, and other high-rotation staples of that channel in the early years.
I do love the song, and think it was deservedly the first hit from the record. But "Gypsy," also a mega video-hit, always occupies a more prominent place in my thoughts of Fleetwood Mac songs.
Wdm6789
03-23-2014, 11:15 AM
^^^I always enjoyed it. But, oddly, rarely consider it when I think of Fleetwood Mac songs. In my mind, it conjures up the early MTV age, so I associate it more with Men at Work, Madness, The Tubes, and other high-rotation staples of that channel in the early years.
I do love the song, and think it was deservedly the first hit from the record. But "Gypsy," also a mega video-hit, always occupies a more prominent place in my thoughts of Fleetwood Mac songs.
They still play Hold Me on one of the classic rock stations where I live, the good classic rock station that plays The Beatles and The Doors and Pink Floyd, not the crappy one that plays more arena rock.
Gypsy is great also, one of my favorites. But I always have to listen to the extended version, Lindsey's guitar solo is amazing. I think it's my favorite one.
gssmith
03-23-2014, 11:35 AM
It's ok. Kind of cheesy and way to repetitive
MoonSister75
03-23-2014, 12:08 PM
I love the Hold Me video, and I do think the song is great too. Its just not one of those songs that I can listen to very often.
Hold Me and Gypsy were great follow up Singles/Radio hits/MTV videos in 1982 to follow up Tusk. These two songs were HUGE and many of the Tusk na Sayers came back to the Mac.
It just sounds so nice. I have not heard the live version from the Mirage tour back in 1982 and I really want to hear how they did Hold Me live.
To be honest, it's not that great live. I think the technology simply didn't exist in '82 to faithfully recreate the sound onstage. And Lindsey barking "YEAH!" didn't help matters. :cool:
I love the music video too, very 1982. Did anyone have the privilege of living back then? Wasn't Hold Me a big hit on the radio and MTV?
LOL! I did have the privilege, but I was still a bit too young to remember much. I often wish I were 10 yrs older only so that I could've enjoyed more of the Mac in their heyday... :nod:
michelej1
03-23-2014, 02:51 PM
And Lindsey barking "YEAH!" didn't help matters. :cool:
That's a good point. It could be considered discordant.
Michele
vivfox
03-23-2014, 03:03 PM
I have seen the one with just Stevie, are there more?
I can't remember but as long as you saw that one you should be all set.
It just sounds so nice. I have not heard the live version from the Mirage tour back in 1982 and I really want to hear how they did Hold Me live.Did anyone have the privilege of living back then? Wasn't Hold Me a big hit on the radio and MTV?
I was 2o years old in 1982 and I was lucky enough to attend 2 Mirage concerts.
To be honest, it's not that great live. I think the technology simply didn't exist in '82 to faithfully recreate the sound onstage. And Lindsey barking "YEAH!" didn't help matters. :cool:
I suppose it's just a matter of opinion. I enjoyed FM's live sound better before they added all the backup singers and musicians. When I listen to those older shows I am blown away by the fact that just 4 people created that sound(not including the vocals).
My favorite part of the Live Hold Me was when Stevie and Lindsey sang YEAH at the end of each Hold Me, Hold me.
Because of its repetiveness. I was not impressed with the song in the 1980's but over the hills and faraway in time I have learned to love this song whenever I hear it now.
Wdm6789
03-23-2014, 03:05 PM
To be honest, it's not that great live. I think the technology simply didn't exist in '82 to faithfully recreate the sound onstage. And Lindsey barking "YEAH!" didn't help matters. :cool:
LOL! I did have the privilege, but I was still a bit too young to remember much. I often wish I were 10 yrs older only so that I could've enjoyed more of the Mac in their heyday... :nod:
I'm still dying to hear it, as it's my favorite Fleetwood Mac song. I have the greatest hits cd in my car and I listen to Hold Me usually at least twice a day.
I wish I was twenty some years older so I could have seen all the great bands that I love in their heyday, I'm often told that I'm an old soul.
Wdm6789
03-23-2014, 03:15 PM
I can't remember but as long as you saw that one you should be all set.
I was 2o years old in 1982 and I was lucky enough to attend 2 Mirage concerts.
I suppose it's just a matter of opinion. I enjoyed FM's live sound better before they added all the backup singers and musicians. When I listen to those older shows I am blown away by the fact that just 4 people created that sound(not including the vocals).
My favorite part of the Live Hold Me was when Stevie and Lindsey sang YEAH at the end of each Hold Me, Hold me.
Because of its repetiveness. I was not impressed with the song in the 1980's but over the hills and faraway in time I have learned to love this song whenever I hear it now.
That's like my dream, to be in my early 20s in the early 80s. I agree their concerts before 1987 were much better when it was just the five of them performing with maybe just an extra guitar player if they need two guitars for a song.
The song definitely is repetitive, but I still love to and I never get tired of it, it shows how good Lindsey was at constructing songs.
Does anyone have a video of Hold Me live from 1982? or at least the audio?
Sara also? I love the live video of Sara from the Tusk tour, I want to hear how it sounded in 1982.
sanders8323
03-23-2014, 03:43 PM
Here's the only live version I could find:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRiwAIFIpng
aleuzzi
03-23-2014, 03:58 PM
Did anyone have the privilege of living back then? Wasn't Hold Me a big hit on the radio and MTV?
Do you mean, are any of us old farts who can remember that far back?
Hell yes. Most of the die hands on this site were at least 20 by then. I was 11. Hold Me (#4) was a huge hut, the biggest single on Mirage. Gypsy (#12)was also huge and my favorite song on the album. Love In Store got a lot of airplay as well, and was a mid-sized hit (#22). The Billboard peak positions don't even give a full indication of the impact these songs made, particularly the first two. They were also in frequent rotation on rock stations.
Still, many critics (not counting some crucial exceptions) thought the album was spotty and that, to fans of the previous three records, Lindsey had gone mad. Christine was universally praised. Stevie was not. Lindsey's songs were oddball curios but they weren't edgy or energetic in the same way as they were on Tusk. Years on, the criticisms of it aren't warranted, I think. It really holds up better than Tango.
Wdm6789
03-23-2014, 04:15 PM
Do you mean, are any of us old farts who can remember that far back?
Hell yes. Most of the die hands on this site were at least 20 by then. I was 11. Hold Me (#4) was a huge hut, the biggest single on Mirage. Gypsy (#12)was also huge and my favorite song on the album. Love In Store got a lot of airplay as well, and was a mid-sized hit (#22). The Billboard peak positions don't even give a full indication of the impact these songs made, particularly the first two. They were also in frequent rotation on rock stations.
Still, many critics (not counting some crucial exceptions) thought the album was spotty and that, to fans of the previous three records, Lindsey had gone mad. Christine was universally praised. Stevie was not. Lindsey's songs were oddball curios but they weren't edgy or energetic in the same way as they were on Tusk. Years on, the criticisms of it aren't warranted, I think. It really holds up better than Tango.
I love mirage, I can listen to it without skipping any songs. I wish they did one more music video for Mirage, maybe one of Lindsey's songs or for Love in Store.
Tango is awesome too, but a lot of the songs are too chorus heavy (this coming from the guy whose favorite song is Hold Me, I know.) I still love them though, Seven Wonders, Little Lies, Everywhere (these three being the chorus heavy ones) and Family man are my favorites. Big Love, Isn't it Midnight, Welcome to the room Sara and Mystified are great as well, but I usually skip Caroline and that one slow Stevie song near the end of the CD.
jbrownsjr
03-23-2014, 05:59 PM
Do you mean, are any of us old farts who can remember that far back?
Hell yes. Most of the die hands on this site were at least 20 by then. I was 11. Hold Me (#4) was a huge hut, the biggest single on Mirage. Gypsy (#12)was also huge and my favorite song on the album. Love In Store got a lot of airplay as well, and was a mid-sized hit (#22). The Billboard peak positions don't even give a full indication of the impact these songs made, particularly the first two. They were also in frequent rotation on rock stations.
Still, many critics (not counting some crucial exceptions) thought the album was spotty and that, to fans of the previous three records, Lindsey had gone mad. Christine was universally praised. Stevie was not. Lindsey's songs were oddball curios but they weren't edgy or energetic in the same way as they were on Tusk. Years on, the criticisms of it aren't warranted, I think. It really holds up better than Tango.
Everything he said^^^. The airplay was huge! Christine or "Christie McVie", was becoming a household name with MTV and radio airplay. MTV loved Fmac at this time. Gypsy was heavily rotated as well.
Also, HBO was running promos for the "Mirage Live at the LA Forum concert" after every movie. I remember YMLF as part of that promo.
Hold Me is a unique tune in my opinion especially during this time period. It's nothing like Gypsy at all and yet both songs did rather well. The vocal harmonies on, "Hold Me" are rather neat.
I am going from memory, but I think, "Jack and Diane" (John Cougar) was also playing a lot at this time. It was a great time in my life and I remember it well.
Side Note: Christine released, "Got A Hold On Me" two years later and that received heavy airplay too.
It would be great if Lindsey can make Hold Me work live on this tour. I'm sure it can be done. Lindsey made Everywhere work on the Dance tour and I'm sure he could even get Little Lies to work live.The "girls" kind of recked LL for me on the Tango tour
Montclare
03-23-2014, 08:09 PM
I can't remember but as long as you saw that one you should be all set.
Only if you're primarily a Stevie fan. Personally, I'd love to see a behind the scenes with Lindsey and Christine. Also, I'd really like to know when exactly this was filmed. With the stories about them not getting along etc, I'd like to put it in context with a timeline.
Wdm6789
03-23-2014, 08:39 PM
It would be great if Lindsey can make Hold Me work live on this tour. I'm sure it can be done. Lindsey made Everywhere work on the Dance tour and I'm sure he could even get Little Lies to work live.The "girls" kind of recked LL for me on the Tango tour
Yes! Everywhere on the Tango your was cringeworthy, the dance Everywhere is pretty much equal in greatness to the album version. There's Lindsey's genius song building again.
Only if you're primarily a Stevie fan. Personally, I'd love to see a behind the scenes with Lindsey and Christine. Also, I'd really like to know when exactly this was filmed. With the stories about them not getting along etc, I'd like to put it in context with a timeline.
^This. I would love to see behind the scenes of the Hold Me shoot of the rest of the band as well. I have always wanted to come across old photos or videos of the band with some coke evidence or paraphernalia in the background or something. That would be kinda funny.
lovethemac1
03-23-2014, 08:48 PM
I love the music video too, very 1982. Did anyone have the privilege of living back then? Wasn't Hold Me a big hit on the radio and MTV?[/QUOTE]
I was in first year university when this came out. Yes it was a hit and we always sat around and watched MTV while at parties. I seem to remember that Fleetwood Mac was considered the great band that had been around for the 70's and had morphed it's sound to keep up with the 80's.
HelloMonster
03-23-2014, 10:49 PM
but I usually skip Caroline
Tsk tsk tsk.
:rolleyes:
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