Let's all cast "Rumours: The Movie"

[ChickenStu]

I think the making of Rumours could be great subject for a damn compelling movie. The story behind the making of it is so famous I can't believe it's not been done already.

Who could play the parts? I reckon Bradley Cooper would be a good fit for Lindsey Buckingham and Katie Sackhoff would be an interesting and leftfield choice for Stevie Nicks. David Tennant could make a believable John McVie and Sophia Myles could be Christine McVie. Throw in Liam Neeson as Mick Fleetwood and that's a hell of a cast you've got right there.

The most logical director who springs to mind to make it? Probably Martin Scorcese. He's quite big on 70's music and directed the excellent Rolling Stones documentary Shine A Light. It seems right up his street. The only thing I'd worry about is him trying to shoehorn Leonardo DiCaprio into one of the main roles. However, I wouldn't mind seeing DiCaprio in a supporting role as a studio exec or something.

The film could start as they are getting back from touring the Fleetwood Mac album and are going into the studio to start Rumours. Then of course all the problems kick off with the personal relationships disintegrating, the drugs, the excess and all of that. Really concentrate on the human drama of everything. Of course, it will end with Rumours being released and being a critical and commercial smash. Before the end credits there is a title card briefly explaining the rest of the band's history up till present day - and ends with ACTUAL footage of the REAL band playing The Chain live to an audience. Cue end credits.

I personally think there is really something there. What about you guys?

[bombaysaffires]

I think the making of Rumours could be great subject for a damn compelling movie. The story behind the making of it is so famous I can't believe it's not been done already.

Who could play the parts? I reckon Bradley Cooper would be a good fit for Lindsey Buckingham and Katie Sackhoff would be an interesting and leftfield choice for Stevie Nicks. David Tennant could make a believable John McVie and Sophia Myles could be Christine McVie. Throw in Liam Neeson as Mick Fleetwood and that's a hell of a cast you've got right there.

The most logical director who springs to mind to make it? Probably Martin Scorcese. He's quite big on 70's music and directed the excellent Rolling Stones documentary Shine A Light. It seems right up his street. The only thing I'd worry about is him trying to shoehorn Leonardo DiCaprio into one of the main roles. However, I wouldn't mind seeing DiCaprio in a supporting role as a studio exec or something.

The film could start as they are getting back from touring the Fleetwood Mac album and are going into the studio to start Rumours. Then of course all the problems kick off with the personal relationships disintegrating, the drugs, the excess and all of that. Really concentrate on the human drama of everything. Of course, it will end with Rumours being released and being a critical and commercial smash. Before the end credits there is a title card briefly explaining the rest of the band's history up till present day - and ends with ACTUAL footage of the REAL band playing The Chain live to an audience. Cue end credits.

I personally think there is really something there. What about you guys?


I think it hasn't been made because the band doesn't want it made. Well, Stevie certainly has been vociferous in her opposition. It seems her objection is she doesn't want the "bad" stuff depicted, which is kinda nonsense but there ya go. I haven't ever heard the rest of the band say anything about it. Though Stevie does say to Mick in her documentary that Reese Witherspoon will play her "when they make the movie about us". So maybe deep down she realizes it's inevitable.....

[TrueFaith77]

I think it hasn't been made because the band doesn't want it made. Well, Stevie certainly has been vociferous in her opposition. It seems her objection is she doesn't want the "bad" stuff depicted, which is kinda nonsense but there ya go. I haven't ever heard the rest of the band say anything about it. Though Stevie does say to Mick in her documentary that Reese Witherspoon will play her "when they make the movie about us". So maybe deep down she realizes it's inevitable.....

and btw don't forget Scorcese did the film about Tom Petty-- Runnin' Down a Dream.

CORRECTION: The great Peter Bogdanovich directed Runnin' Down a Dream, not the now-awful Scorsese.


To which point, I met Peter Bogdanovich on Monday night but didn't think of mentioning the Mac to him despite his work on that documentary. That said, I was also 2 feet from Bradley Cooper and wanted to see how he would feel about playing Lindsey Buckingham, but when I turned around, he was gone... :(

So my picks are currently:

Steven Strait for Lindsey (I'll settle for Bradley Cooper)
Jennifer Lawrence for Stevie
Sally Hawkins for Christine (I'll settle for Vera Farmiga)
An animated Shreck figure for Mick
Some british guy who looks like a santa elf to play John

And I would want John Boorman to direct. (I would settle for Peter Bogdanovich or David O Russell)

And the movie would be called Dreams.

[bombaysaffires]

CORRECTION: The great Peter Bogdanovich directed Runnin' Down a Dream, not the now-awful Scorsese.


To which point, I met Peter Bogdanovich on Monday night but didn't think of mentioning the Mac to him despite his work on that documentary. That said, I was also 2 feet from Bradley Cooper and wanted to see how he would feel about playing Lindsey Buckingham, but when I turned around, he was gone... :(

So my picks are currently:

Steven Strait for Lindsey (I'll settle for Bradley Cooper)
Jennifer Lawrence for Stevie
Sally Hawkins for Christine (I'll settle for Vera Farmiga)
An animated Shreck figure for Mick
Some british guy who looks like a santa elf to play John

And I would want John Boorman to direct. (I would settle for Peter Bogdanovich or David O Russell)

Thank you TrueFaith77 I was just about to go in and edit my post. Brain fart. :shocked:

[ChickenStu]

Stevie certainly has been vociferous in her opposition. It seems her objection is she doesn't want the "bad" stuff depicted, which is kinda nonsense but there ya go. I haven't ever heard the rest of the band say anything about it. Though Stevie does say to Mick in her documentary that Reese Witherspoon will play her "when they make the movie about us". So maybe deep down she realizes it's inevitable.....

I understand her attitude. But the bad stuff that went on is really no secret. Not only that, nobody has lost any respect for Nicks nor thinks of her as a bad person for it. I think I can speak for most people when I say that.

Don't want to see Reese Witherspoon do the part. Not that she's a bad actress or anything it's just that she's already played a famous singer and won an oscar for it in Walk The Line

A decent movie about the making of Rumours would be a true triumph over adversity story.

As for you saying the rest of the band haven't said anything about it... I think I read an interview with Mick Fleetwood where he said he thinks it would make an interesting stage play.

[WildHearted]

I understand her attitude. But the bad stuff that went on is really no secret. Not only that, nobody has lost any disrespect for Nicks nor thinks of her as a bad person for it. I think I can speak for most people when I say that.

Don't want to see Reese Witherspoon do the part. Not that she's a bad actress or anything it's just that she's already played a famous singer and won an oscar for it in Walk The Line

A decent movie about the making of Rumours would be a true triumph over adversity story.

As for you saying the rest of the band haven't said anything about it... I think I read an interview with Mick Fleetwood where he said he thinks it would make an interesting stage play.


Well, I don't think Stevie's against people finding out the bad stuff. I think her opinion is that people already KNOW the bad stuff so it doesn't need to be rehashed a million times. Regarding writing a book, she's basically said if you want to hear about all the conflicts and drama you can read every article published for the last 35 years. She wants to talk about the pleasant moments that haven't been shared and don't get talked about as much.

I've never heard her say she didn't want a movie because it would put them in a bad light or anything. But I have heard her say she don't want a movie because she was scared it would be the end and she would die right after it came out :lol:

[michelej1]

Technology Tell [this seems to have been written a few months back, but was just published today, from what I can tell]

http://www.technologytell.com/entertainment/34962/why-has-there-never-been-a-rumours-movie/

Why Has There Never Been a “Rumours” Movie?

by Stephen Silver on January 10, 2014 at 9:53 am

With Fleetwood Mac reuniting once again earlier this week for a performance at CES in Las Vegas, I got to thinking- why has there never been a feature film/biopic about the making of “Rumours“?

We all know the story: As the band members were all breaking up with each other in the mid-’70s, they came together and produced one of the greatest albums of all time, consisting of such classic songs as “Secondhand News,” “You Make Loving Fun,” “Dreams,” “Never Going Back Again,” and “Go Your Own Way.” One song on the record, “Don’t Stop,” even helped Bill Clinton get elected in 1992:

Yet for all of the music biopics that have been made in the ensuing four decades, for some reason there’s never been a feature film about this story, one of the most iconic in music history and one full of good stories and great, great music.As Chuck Klosterman once quoted a friend of his as saying of Lindsey Buckingham, “what kind of asshole forces his ex-girlfriend to sing background vocals on a song that accuses her of being a slut?”

The closest we’ve come is a 1977 concert documentary called “The Rosebud Film.” That, and there was a “Rumours”-themed episode of Glee in 2011. Lindsay Lohan a few years ago expressed interest in playing Stevie Nicks in a biopic; Nicks replied with “over my dead body. She needs to stop doing drugs and get a grip.” Earlier this year, Reese Witherspoon was mentioned as possibly playing Stevie, but the singer dismissed the 37-year-old Reese as “over the hill.”

I think it’s time. For one thing, Jennifer Lawrence was absolutely born to play Stevie Nicks. There’s enough of a physical resemblance, she’s the right age, and as we learned in “American Hustle,” J. Law is quite believable at playing a crazy person in the ’70s. Not sure if she can sing, but she can certainly learn.

Lindsay Buckingham? I suppose Bill Hader continuing his silent impression is out of the question; when I brought this up on Facebook, my colleague Pete Croatto suggested Bradley Cooper. That could work, but Lawrence and Cooper would probably also mean David O. Russell directing, and there’s no way that’s a good idea. Justin Timberlake is a possibility for Buckingham as well, although I wouldn’t be able to stop picturing him as Robin Gibb.

I agree with Pete’s pick of Adam Driver- who we know can sing and play guitar- as John McVie. Christine McVie? I was going to suggest Carrie Underwood, but we all saw “Sound of Music…” Vera Fermiga was cast as McVie in a since-abandoned biopic of Dennis Wilson called “The Drummer,” so let’s give her another chance.

For Mick Fleetwood I’m seeing someone quirky. Maybe Paul Dano, or Ben Foster, or maybe even Jason Schwartzman, who really is a drummer.

Of course, there might be a good reason for no “Rumours” movie- perhaps none of these people, the ones who wrote and control the music rights, are especially eager to revisit an unhappy and traumatic chapter in their lives. Then again, four of them (everyone but Christine McVie) still agree to perform together, with their exes from four decades ago, so what’s one movie?

[aleuzzi]

Technology Tell [this seems to have been written a few months back, but was just published today, from what I can tell]

http://www.technologytell.com/entertainment/34962/why-has-there-never-been-a-rumours-movie/

Why Has There Never Been a “Rumours” Movie?

by Stephen Silver on January 10, 2014 at 9:53 am

With Fleetwood Mac reuniting once again earlier this week for a performance at CES in Las Vegas, I got to thinking- why has there never been a feature film/biopic about the making of “Rumours“?

We all know the story: As the band members were all breaking up with each other in the mid-’70s, they came together and produced one of the greatest albums of all time, consisting of such classic songs as “Secondhand News,” “You Make Loving Fun,” “Dreams,” “Never Going Back Again,” and “Go Your Own Way.” One song on the record, “Don’t Stop,” even helped Bill Clinton get elected in 1992:

Yet for all of the music biopics that have been made in the ensuing four decades, for some reason there’s never been a feature film about this story, one of the most iconic in music history and one full of good stories and great, great music.As Chuck Klosterman once quoted a friend of his as saying of Lindsey Buckingham, “what kind of asshole forces his ex-girlfriend to sing background vocals on a song that accuses her of being a slut?”

The closest we’ve come is a 1977 concert documentary called “The Rosebud Film.” That, and there was a “Rumours”-themed episode of Glee in 2011. Lindsay Lohan a few years ago expressed interest in playing Stevie Nicks in a biopic; Nicks replied with “over my dead body. She needs to stop doing drugs and get a grip.” Earlier this year, Reese Witherspoon was mentioned as possibly playing Stevie, but the singer dismissed the 37-year-old Reese as “over the hill.”

I think it’s time. For one thing, Jennifer Lawrence was absolutely born to play Stevie Nicks. There’s enough of a physical resemblance, she’s the right age, and as we learned in “American Hustle,” J. Law is quite believable at playing a crazy person in the ’70s. Not sure if she can sing, but she can certainly learn.

Lindsay Buckingham? I suppose Bill Hader continuing his silent impression is out of the question; when I brought this up on Facebook, my colleague Pete Croatto suggested Bradley Cooper. That could work, but Lawrence and Cooper would probably also mean David O. Russell directing, and there’s no way that’s a good idea. Justin Timberlake is a possibility for Buckingham as well, although I wouldn’t be able to stop picturing him as Robin Gibb.

I agree with Pete’s pick of Adam Driver- who we know can sing and play guitar- as John McVie. Christine McVie? I was going to suggest Carrie Underwood, but we all saw “Sound of Music…” Vera Fermiga was cast as McVie in a since-abandoned biopic of Dennis Wilson called “The Drummer,” so let’s give her another chance.

For Mick Fleetwood I’m seeing someone quirky. Maybe Paul Dano, or Ben Foster, or maybe even Jason Schwartzman, who really is a drummer.

Of course, there might be a good reason for no “Rumours” movie- perhaps none of these people, the ones who wrote and control the music rights, are especially eager to revisit an unhappy and traumatic chapter in their lives. Then again, four of them (everyone but Christine McVie) still agree to perform together, with their exes from four decades ago, so what’s one movie?

The person got all the casting wrong, of course, since none of the members of Mac can be adequately portrayed. As Mick said in 1976 (and I'm paraphrasing) "When you think of The Eagles or Chicago, you think of anonymous studio musicians; when you think of Fleetwood Mac you think of live, red-blooded people."

Above, someone mentioned Bradley Cooper as Lindsey. That's actually a great casting choice. Beyond that, I wouldn't know. Mick (who is 6 feet 6) would be difficult to cast, as would both Christine and Stevie.

[WildHearted]

J.Law would be great personality-wise for Stevie and she's a fantastic actress. But she looks absolutely nothing like her (what is this "resemblance" these people are speaking of?) and she's like 7 inches too tall. However, I really don't know how much that stuff actually matters to casting directors/the band (potentially). Reese obviously looks nothing like Stevie either and Stevie wanted her, so...

Bradley, on the other hand, was looking VERY Lindsey-esque in parts of American Hustle (probably just due to the dark hair/beard/blue eyes/70s garb, but still). He's also a fantastic actor.

http://media4.onsugar.com/files/2013/10/10/666/n/1922283/ce6e0b0f59beea4e_thumb_temp310679201375410578.xlarge/i/American-Hustle-Trailer.jpg

Mick is the one who I can't really think of anyone that would be suitable.

[GypsySorcerer]

I could definitely see Bradley Cooper as Lindsey. Perhaps James Marsden.

I could see Alison Lohman as Stevie.

Cate Blanchett for Christine.

Mick & John, don't know. Geoffrey Rush would make a great "present-day" Mick, but obviously not Rumours-era.

[TrueFaith77]

Amy Adams is looking kinda Stevie-esque in that picture.

[HelloMonster]

Wtf hell no to Jennifer Lawrence. She looks absolutely nothing like Stevie, aside from boobs. I look more like Stevie than Jennifer Lawrence :lol: that isn't saying much. Bradley Cooper is too muscular, but the eyes are pretty close. My vote for Stevie (and its a long shot, too) is Shailene Woodley. She's a pretty good actress, right age, a little too tall, lighten/fix the hair, fix the makeup... And maybe?

http://imgur.com/sOZrZnw.jpg

[Dex]

Physical resemblance is one of the last things on my list when it comes to casting choices for films like this. I don't get why that's so important to people. Obviously I don't want it to look pantomime-ish in its inaccuracy, but face it, the actors are never going to look exactly like the real people they are portraying because they are not the real people. It's a movie. It's its own little world. Ability to convey a personality and carry a narrative are what matters in a movie. Unless you're going to bring photos of Stevie into the theatre and constantly compare them to her film counterpart while watching, in which case you're not really watching the film anyway.

Jennifer Lawrence would rock it as Stevie.

I always saw Cate Blanchett as being an awesome Christine, but she's in her mid-40s now. I still think she could pull it off but I don't imagine it'd really fly with people. I think Sarah Solemani is quite Christine-ish in the roles she plays. And she's in pretty much everything on TV these days anyway, so she might as well ride the wave.

I agree with Bradley Cooper as Lindsey, but then, the age thing again. The trouble is it's hard to think of established, serious actors who would be the right age to play Lindsey at that time.

Mick I think would have to be played by someone unknown and out of left field.

[ChickenStu]

When casting a movie based on a true story (or recasting a role for a sequel) I think the trick is not to worry about whether or not the actor resembles the person they are playing... you've just got to look at the actor. Resemblance should be a coincidental and/or superficial matter.

I'd want Liam Neeson to play Mick Fleetwood. The only thing Neeson has in common with him is that they are both extremely tall. However, Neeson has that thing about him that would make him a good Fleetwood. Although Neeson is probably a lot older than Fleetwood was when he was doing Rumours. Could be a problem.

I'd say another good fit for Fleetwood could be Colin Farrell. Movie magic can make people taller or shorter in a film. Farrell has a kind of manic thing about him. I could imagine him doing all the crazy facial expressions behind the drum-kit.

Same with Bradley Cooper as Lindsey Buckingham. They don't look like they were separated at birth or anything - but Cooper has a similar vibe to Buckingham. I was very pleased to see I'm not the only one who thought of it.

Katie Sackhoff (Starbuck in Battlestar Galactica) doesn't look a thing like Stevie Nicks aside from having blonde hair. Yet she has a kind of unique attitude and is attractive in an aggressive way. There's something offbeat about her and that's what an actress playing Nicks would need.

I know I said Sophia Myles as Christine McVie... but whoever suggested Cate Blanchett... that's AWESOME. I'm actually sold on that!

Finally David Tennant as John McVie. He has a similair kind of frame and if they put a little beard on him I reckon he'd be the one cast member who closely resembles the character he's playing the most.

So yeah. That's how I think it should work.

[Villavic]

I still think I'd like to see a Fleetwood Mac miniseries. So it can include the whole story. Or at least the 70s - 80s segment.

[ChickenStu]

For better authenticity - if this movie should be made then the filmmakers should be allowed access to all the demos, and through movie magic make it look like the members are cutting them in REAL time (have them lip-synch and stuff).

We'd need to hear the REAL music from Rumours on the soundtrack. Actors are not musicians and to have them recreate it would take away from the verisimilitude. We'd need the real thing.

Maybe on future pressings of the CD have a little sticker on it saying "Now a major film starring..." you know, that kind of deal.

As for the end of the movie (I've alluded to this before) it should be after the album is released we see the band members all in the waiting room of a gig. They can hear the audience outside cheering and they all look at each other and say something like "OK, let's just put it behind us for tonight and go out there and do this". Then we see the curtain rise and they walk out on stage.

Camera cuts to the stage itself but instead of the actors it's the REAL members of Fleetwood Mac - obviously 35 and a bit years older. Then we see them doing a live performance of "The Chain". The audience goes wild and it ends with them taking a bow.

I'd just call the movie Fleetwood Mac: Rumours and the movie poster would be a recreation of the album cover, obviously with the actor playing Mick Fleetwood and the actress playing Stevie Nicks recreating that pose.

I know what you're all thinking. You're thinking "ChickenStu is awesome and they should let him make this". And you know what? You're right! :):lol:

[TrueFaith77]

I disagree with every aspect of your pitch. :lol:

[elle]

Physical resemblance is one of the last things on my list when it comes to casting choices for films like this. I don't get why that's so important to people.

i think it depends on how much you are attached to real people who are portrayed, and what they mean to you. i hated Phoenix as Johnny Cash, because i LOVE real Johnny Cash, and his looks but especially amazing voice is a big part of who his is. Johnny was a large-ish looking man with a deep voice. his voice made who he was for me. Phoenix looked and sounded nothing like him in the movie, he was like some little wuss. so i couldn't make myself to watch that movie for a long time, and hated all the accolades it was getting. then i finally had to detach myself and think of the movie as a whole separate entity, like i'm not watching a movie about Johnny Cash but some other dude with the same life story. then i could enjoy the movie but still HATED the way they did most of the songs. because they sounded nothing like Cash.

so i can imagine i would feel the same about the film that would portray LB as one of main characters and the guy looked and *felt* nothing like him. Bradley Cooper has enough resemblance in both the looks and the vibe. but soon he'll be too old for late 20s Lindsey. and Kate Blanchet would have been perfect Christine but already too old, same with Liam Neeson. and these are all incredible actors, too.

[Dex]

i think it depends on how much you are attached to real people who are portrayed, and what they mean to you. i hated Phoenix as Johnny Cash, because i LOVE real Johnny Cash, and his looks but especially amazing voice is a big part of who his is. Johnny was a large-ish looking man with a deep voice. his voice made who he was for me. Phoenix looked and sounded nothing like him in the movie, he was like some little wuss. so i couldn't make myself to watch that movie for a long time, and hated all the accolades it was getting. then i finally had to detach myself and think of the movie as a whole separate entity, like i'm not watching a movie about Johnny Cash but some other dude with the same life story. then i could enjoy the movie but still HATED the way they did most of the songs. because they sounded nothing like Cash.

so i can imagine i would feel the same about the film that would portray LB as one of main characters and the guy looked and *felt* nothing like him. Bradley Cooper has enough resemblance in both the looks and the vibe. but soon he'll be too old for late 20s Lindsey. and Kate Blanchet would have been perfect Christine but already too old, same with Liam Neeson. and these are all incredible actors, too.

Yes. I think if a filmmaker and actor are skilled, they should be able to take you out of the point of constantly referencing reality. You won't even think about it. You'll just take the movie as it is. But I come from a perspective of not really thinking biopics are ever all that great anyway. And I agree that with some diehard fans, it may never be possible to detach yourself completely from real-life reference points when watching a film like this.

To me, though, it should be like casting any character in a fictional film. You have a summary of a character's personality and background, and you find an actor who can best portray that. Simple as. And I think that method of casting would lead to far better performances and filmmaking than if they focused too much on things like body and facial structure.

[TrueFaith77]

I agree with Dex that finding perfect similarity in appearance is not at the top of my list of reasons to pick an actor to play a role. My casting was based on a "vision" that I've had for this movie for some time as well as the actors who I feel can capture the spirit of the character. Example: Nobody has named an actor better suited for Buck than Steven Strait.

Basically my pitch for Dreams (as I title it) is: "Twilight meets Exorcist II: The Heretic... with music!"

[elle]

well i can hear what you guys are saying, but it's not just artsy telling of an interesting story, it's also a bio. and as such, i would think what it should also portray is why was this particular person so big in his/her respective field. why did they make a difference? why were they so fascinating to people?

with Johnny Cash, a big part of it was his voice and the way he performed his (and others') songs. that doesn't come across in that movie for me, at all. and it makes a huge part of his story that's missing. :shrug:

with Stevie Nicks it's somewhat similar - a big part of her popularity is her raspy sexy voice and the way she dresses. they way she dresses is obviously easy to replicate. but if the actress portraying her is actually singing the songs and her voice is just regular middle-of-the-road voice, that would be a big miss in any portrayal of SN.

with Lindsey's voice doesn't matter that much, to me, as his voice is nothing special and many people can replicate it. a good actor should also be able to portray his typical moves when playing. and Bradley Cooper can easily display very similar sexiness (plus naturally blue eyes) that is essential Lindsey.

[michelej1]

With Johnny Cash, I thought that Phoenix captured his essence. It was Reese Witherspoon that put me off completely. She was nothing like the June I thought I knew, nothing like her in looks, but nothing like her in "personality." The accent and mannerisms were all off and to me so was the portrayal but that was for reasons having to do more with the portrayal than the actress.

Michele

[elle]

With Johnny Cash, I thought that Phoenix captured his essence. It was Reese Witherspoon that put me off completely. She was nothing like the June I thought I knew, nothing like her in looks, but nothing like her in "personality." The accent and mannerisms were all off and to me so was the portrayal but that was for reasons having to do more with the portrayal than the actress.

Michele

see, Reese didn't bother me since i haven't seen much of real June.

what do you consider the essence of Johnny Cash, that Phoenix captured? again, i'm missing his whole essence in Phoenix, as i described. the essential man in black who i loved was just not there. but you know, the family was involved and approved the movie, so obviously there was something there, just not essential to me.

[Steviegirl]

[QUOTE=Dex;1116798]Physical resemblance is one of the last things on my list when it comes to casting choices for films like this. I don't get why that's so important to people. Obviously I don't want it to look pantomime-ish in its inaccuracy, but face it, the actors are never going to look exactly like the real people they are portraying because they are not the real people. It's a movie. It's its own little world. Ability to convey a personality and carry a narrative are what matters in a movie. Unless you're going to bring photos of Stevie into the theatre and constantly compare them to her film counterpart while watching, in which case you're not really watching the film anyway.

I would agree with this, ordinarily; (like I do with most of Dex's posts:xoxo:); however, I think that in the case of someone like Stevie, there are unique complications because of her supernatural beauty and extraordinary charisma. Goodness, they're ALL incredibly charismatic, but what did David Wild from Rolling Stone say, "...Maybe the most beautiful woman on earth"?

It's so hard to even imagine trying to cast the film because so many of the really good actors and actresses we love are just too darn old, bless their hearts! Maybe it will be different for the general public than it will be for us Ledgies whose lives have been so deeply touched by these five people we adore so much. I have to say, though, I think I prefer Mick's idea for a Broadway play. But I would want it to be a very serious play~not just fluff as the vehicle for a musical.

[michelej1]

what do you consider the essence of Johnny Cash, that Phoenix captured? again, i'm missing his whole essence in Phoenix, as i described. the essential man in black who i loved was just not there. but you know, the family was involved and approved the movie, so obviously there was something there, just not essential to me.

I thought he had Cash's swagger and confidence without being arrogant. And also even before he took that role, I thought that Phoenix was psychologically troubled, had a difficult and controversial youth and that he would do a good job of bringing Cash's struggles to the screen and he did. I believed Phoenix's anger and defiance along with the gentleness I saw in Cash's later years (as when he guested on Dr. Quinn Medicine Woman).

I thought the movie made June really shallow, but Phoenix handled Cash's contradictions well to me and it became about the story, rather than me judging whether he looked and sounded like Johnny Cash. He felt like Cash to me and Reese felt like a pixie.

Also, although I never wanted Robert Patrick on the X-Files, I really got into the scenes between him and Cash and I had only read about Cash's relationship with his father before the movie and then after I saw the movie those scenes made me feel almost as if I had seen a documentary rather than just a film adaption. It seemed real to me, even if it probably was not faithful to what happened in real life.

I think my biggest problem was that I had seen a lot of June and Johnny together in real life and I didn't buy that, but Phoenix made it easy for me to accept the other parts of Cash's life that I hadn't seen. Michele

[ChickenStu]

I disagree with every aspect of your pitch. :lol:

:shrug:

I do have feelings you know...

[Steviegirl]

Wtf hell no to Jennifer Lawrence. She looks absolutely nothing like Stevie, aside from boobs. I look more like Stevie than Jennifer Lawrence :lol: that isn't saying much. Bradley Cooper is too muscular, but the eyes are pretty close. My vote for Stevie (and its a long shot, too) is Shailene Woodley. She's a pretty good actress, right age, a little too tall, lighten/fix the hair, fix the makeup... And maybe?

http://imgur.com/sOZrZnw.jpg

Yes! to this. And can't wait for her in The Fault in Our Stars! :blob1:

[Milane]

I agree that it's more important to capture vibe/spirit rather than cast someone who resembles the person. However, for the three singer/singwriters, I feel like their voice and songwriting style is a very important part of their persona. So I would actually go and try to cast singers who can act, especially for Stevie and Christine.

Lindsey's voice isn't superspecial, and I think a dedicated actor with some singing talent could learn. Bradley Cooper, as some people have suggested, I think could really work

As for Stevie and Christine, they have such distinct voices - Christine's alto and Stevie with that sexy rasp - that anyone portraying them would need to have a similar voice. Clothes, haircut, make up and movement and such is no big deal for an actor, but it you're an actor and not a singer, I don't think it'd be possible to learn to sing with a certain voice and have it sound great.

Basically, I would just love for some pretty much unknown singer/singwriters to be cast as Chris and Stevie. I think a talented singer could use the music to really get into character, if you see what I'm saying.

Also, what's good about using unknown people is that there isn't that risk of feeling like you're looking at, say, Jennifer Lawrence acting as Stevie Nicks. Even if Jennifer's performence is great, what you already know about Jen and her personality might overshadow what she's doing with the character, which would be a shame.

As for John and Mick... I don't think they'd be very difficult to cast.

[Dex]

I agree that it's more important to capture vibe/spirit rather than cast someone who resembles the person. However, for the three singer/singwriters, I feel like their voice and songwriting style is a very important part of their persona. So I would actually go and try to cast singers who can act, especially for Stevie and Christine.


I'm not sure any actor/singer is really going to be able to capture the vocal qualities of Stevie and Christine, but I could be wrong. I like the idea of them lip-syncing to existing recordings better. Or perhaps, if we find singers with uncannily similar voices, have them record the music, and have the actresses lip-sync to it? It'd probably be much more plausible and have success be much more likely if they find a brilliant vocalist and a brilliant actor in two separate artists, rather than trying to find one who can "do it all" and inevitably compromising in some way.

[michelej1]

I'm not sure any actor/singer is really going to be able to capture the vocal qualities of Stevie and Christine, but I could be wrong. I like the idea of them lip-syncing to existing recordings better.


Yes, I really am not too interested in singing impersonations. Michele

[singertobe]

I don't seem to know any of the actors in Hollywood anymore.
But this girl is pretty talented I think. Just give her a wig and we're good to go!:thumbsup:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDKnaQg2FtU&list=UUKMgC4gJgrYI_UfF1N-MZvg

[ryan4136]

Didn't read the whole thread don't have time. But I knows it's been mentioned before.....Matthew Rhys from "The Americans" would certainly work for a Rumours/Tusk era LB, actually I think he could LB up through the dance.

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3306791424/nm0722629?ref_=nmmi_mi_all_sf_40

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2347803136/nm0722629?ref_=nmmi_mi_all_sf_46

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2357957632/nm0722629?ref_=nmmi_mi_all_sf_103

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0722629/

[TrueFaith77]

My new dream cast:

Steven Strait as Lindsey Buckingham
Jennifer Lawrence as Stevie Nicks
Gemma Arterton as Christine McVie
Nicholas Hoult as Mick Fleetwood
Jamie Bell as John McVie


:blob1:

[ChickenStu]

It HAS to be Bradley Cooper as Lindsey Buckingham. I don't really think any other actor can do it. Just has to be him. If ever there was an actor born to play a role - this is it.

[DashingDan]

Paul Rudd for 90s era Buckingham

[Wdm6789]

My new dream cast:

Steven Strait as Lindsey Buckingham
Jennifer Lawrence as Stevie Nicks
Gemma Arterton as Christine McVie
Nicholas Hoult as Mick Fleetwood
Jamie Bell as John McVie


:blob1:


This right here. You just nailed it. I'm sure Gemma Arterton would look great with blonde hair and Nicholas Hoult could wear platform shoes. But what about Amber Heard as Stevie?


Also, If there is ever to be a movie made about Fleetwood mac, it has to have a lot of cocaine and alcohol and weed.

[FuzzyPlum]

http://images.wallpino.com/030-035/alexz-johnson-30048.jpg
Alexz Johnson as a 1976 Stevie

http://static.celebuzz.com/uploads/legacy-imgx/4/7/5/5/7/0/1/orig-4755701.jpg
Carey Mulligan as a 1976 Christine

http://www.robertpattinsonau.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/giselher.jpg
Robert Pattinson as a 1976 Mick

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/59/Nicholas_Hoult_by_Gage_Skidmore.jpg/220px-Nicholas_Hoult_by_Gage_Skidmore.jpg
Nicholas Hoult as a 1976 Johnny Mac

http://www.twirlit.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Shia-LaBeouf-hipster-2012.jpg
Really stumped for Lindsey. I'd say Bradley Cooper but he's too old for 1976. He'd be perfect for a TITN sequel.
Maybe Shia Lebouf...some people might argue they have similar personalities.

[Macfanforever]

http://images.wallpino.com/030-035/alexz-johnson-30048.jpg
Alexz Johnson as a 1976 Stevie

http://static.celebuzz.com/uploads/legacy-imgx/4/7/5/5/7/0/1/orig-4755701.jpg
Carey Mulligan as a 1976 Christine

http://www.robertpattinsonau.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/giselher.jpg
Robert Pattinson as a 1976 Mick

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/59/Nicholas_Hoult_by_Gage_Skidmore.jpg/220px-Nicholas_Hoult_by_Gage_Skidmore.jpg
Nicholas Hoult as a 1976 Johnny Mac

http://www.twirlit.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Shia-LaBeouf-hipster-2012.jpg
Really stumped for Lindsey. I'd say Bradley Cooper but he's too old for 1976. He'd be perfect for a TITN sequel.
Maybe Shia Lebouf...some people might argue they have similar personalities.

Who .who who and who.That shows everybody here that I'm out of touch of young Hollywood.We are still waiting for the Rhiannon movie.
Everything going on with the Mac over the years.It would be a soap opera.

The Title could be As The Mac Turns.LOL............................

[olive]

Imagine the drama here over casting if a movie was made.

[He's So Unusual]

Lindsey Buckingham - Bradley Cooper
Stevie Nicks - Olivia Crocicchia

[Wdm6789]

Carey Mulligan is a good choice for Christine. They would need actors in their late 20s-early 30s to play the band members.

[louielouie2000]

Hmm, I'm thinking:

Melissa McCarthy for Stevie
Will Ferrell for Mick
Tina Fey for Christine
Bill Hader for Lindsey (might as well stick with the proven!) :lol:
Jack Black for John

[FuzzyPlum]

We've had Queen, we'll soon have Elton John. I've read there are also upcoming films about James Brown, Miles Davis, Iggy Pop, Jimi Hendrix and Motley Crue. The music biopic is the in-thing. They need to get on and get that Fleetwood Mac story in the works.

Though I'd update my previous choices; Starting in 1974 and ending in 1980...

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/66/c2/65/66c265e71b8daa05cb50a308efc71e77.jpg

Mick Fleetwood: Robert Pattinson
Might be a bit 'pretty' but he rocks a beard and he's tall...not as tall as Mick but he's up there.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c4/14/6d/c4146dced61c934eb6df65845cf7fa35.jpg

John McVie: Daniel Radcliffe
He has the understated look.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c0/Carey_Mulligan_-_2018_%2845646489364%29_%28cropped%29.jpg

Christine McVie: Carey Mulligan
I'll stick with my previous choice; She's beautiful but in a plain sort of way.

http://celebrityinsider.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Selena-Who_-Zac-Efron-Is-Reportedly-Dating-This-Olympic-Swimmer.jpg

Lindsey Buckingham: Zac Efron
He's got the eyes. And he can sing.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/85/7e/46/857e46d052b9e378a4a8c6f43a01beb3.jpg

Stevie Nicks: Taylor Swift
Brings the necessary star quality...and the idea of her singing opposite Zac Efron...wow

[bombaysaffires]

Elton John had input and gave his blessing to his biopic; Queen were involved in all aspects of the making of BR.... Tina Turner had control over the Broadway show about her; same with Cher and the show about her....

Can you possibly imagine all of the Rumours 5 agreeing on ANYTHING??
Especially now?

You know Stevie and her people would want so much control and stories told from her perspective... even after she's not around anymore.

You know LB will never go for that, nor KB if she represents him if the worst should happen.

Mick will just take the money.

John likely won't want to participate and rehash his life stories.

Christine...hard to say.

I just don't see an authorized/blessed FM movie. Ever. Maybe Stevie will give someone her blessing to do a movie all about HER. Maybe. But I don't see a book or movie or whatever about the band that would be green-lit by all 5.

Just my tuppence.

[TrueFaith77]

I had many dreams (pun intended) for such a movie.

I no longer care.

But Zac Enron is a superb choice for Lindsey. Kudos on that.

[dreamsunwind]

We've had Queen, we'll soon have Elton John. I've read there are also upcoming films about James Brown, Miles Davis, Iggy Pop, Jimi Hendrix and Motley Crue. The music biopic is the in-thing. They need to get on and get that Fleetwood Mac story in the works.

Though I'd update my previous choices; Starting in 1974 and ending in 1980...

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/66/c2/65/66c265e71b8daa05cb50a308efc71e77.jpg

Mick Fleetwood: Robert Pattinson
Might be a bit 'pretty' but he rocks a beard and he's tall...not as tall as Mick but he's up there.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c4/14/6d/c4146dced61c934eb6df65845cf7fa35.jpg

John McVie: Daniel Radcliffe
He has the understated look.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c0/Carey_Mulligan_-_2018_%2845646489364%29_%28cropped%29.jpg

Christine McVie: Carey Mulligan
I'll stick with my previous choice; She's beautiful but in a plain sort of way.

http://celebrityinsider.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Selena-Who_-Zac-Efron-Is-Reportedly-Dating-This-Olympic-Swimmer.jpg

Lindsey Buckingham: Zac Efron
He's got the eyes. And he can sing.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/85/7e/46/857e46d052b9e378a4a8c6f43a01beb3.jpg

Stevie Nicks: Taylor Swift
Brings the necessary star quality...and the idea of her singing opposite Zac Efron...wow

Robert Pattinson is WAY too handsome to play Mick lol.
I actually think Zac could be a decent Lindsey tbh. Better than Bradley Cooper like everyone seems to think.
But Taylor Swift is like an entire foot taller than Stevie lol and their voices sound nothing alike.

[elle]

Elton John had input and gave his blessing to his biopic; Queen were involved in all aspects of the making of BR.... Tina Turner had control over the Broadway show about her; same with Cher and the show about her....

Can you possibly imagine all of the Rumours 5 agreeing on ANYTHING??
Especially now?

You know Stevie and her people would want so much control and stories told from her perspective... even after she's not around anymore.

You know LB will never go for that, nor KB if she represents him if the worst should happen.

Mick will just take the money.

John likely won't want to participate and rehash his life stories.

Christine...hard to say.

I just don't see an authorized/blessed FM movie. Ever. Maybe Stevie will give someone her blessing to do a movie all about HER. Maybe. But I don't see a book or movie or whatever about the band that would be green-lit by all 5.

Just my tuppence.

exactly. there would be yet another war between them. Mick and Stevie would insist they have every authority to bless anything named Fleetwood Mac because they ousted Lindsey so he has no say anymore, and then push a completely distorted version which would make Lindsey a villain - resulting in another lawsuit from Lindsey. all that would permanently throw a wrench into any FM movie ever going forward. leaving whoever would try to produce losing money before the movie would be even cast.

#notgonnahappen

[sodascouts]

I just don't see an authorized/blessed FM movie. Ever. Maybe Stevie will give someone her blessing to do a movie all about HER.



This is what I think has the greatest probability of happening - a Stevie biopic - and I think it would have the full cooperation of Mick Fleetwood, but I doubt he'd be consulted much, as it's only Stevie's story that would matter. This would not be a documentary.

I don't think Lindsey would sue unless it shows him being physically abusive in private or something truly awful. If it just makes him look like a jerk - that's not something you sue over.

[elle]

This is what I think has the greatest probability of happening - a Stevie biopic - and I think it would have the full cooperation of Mick Fleetwood, but I doubt he'd be consulted much, as it's only Stevie's story that would matter. This would not be a documentary.

I don't think Lindsey would sue unless it shows him being physically abusive in private or something truly awful. If it just makes him look like a jerk - that's not something you sue over.

i don't know what you sue over, but if the Fleetwood Mac story is told with the similar spin as the PR for the "new FM" last fall and this spring, minimizing and making LB's role in the band success and sound inconsequential, i don't see him and his family taking that lying down.

[singertobe]

We've had Queen, we'll soon have Elton John. I've read there are also upcoming films about James Brown, Miles Davis, Iggy Pop, Jimi Hendrix and Motley Crue. The music biopic is the in-thing. They need to get on and get that Fleetwood Mac story in the works.

Though I'd update my previous choices; Starting in 1974 and ending in 1980...

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/66/c2/65/66c265e71b8daa05cb50a308efc71e77.jpg

Mick Fleetwood: Robert Pattinson
Might be a bit 'pretty' but he rocks a beard and he's tall...not as tall as Mick but he's up there.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c4/14/6d/c4146dced61c934eb6df65845cf7fa35.jpg

John McVie: Daniel Radcliffe
He has the understated look.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c0/Carey_Mulligan_-_2018_%2845646489364%29_%28cropped%29.jpg

Christine McVie: Carey Mulligan
I'll stick with my previous choice; She's beautiful but in a plain sort of way.

http://celebrityinsider.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Selena-Who_-Zac-Efron-Is-Reportedly-Dating-This-Olympic-Swimmer.jpg

Lindsey Buckingham: Zac Efron
He's got the eyes. And he can sing.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/85/7e/46/857e46d052b9e378a4a8c6f43a01beb3.jpg

Stevie Nicks: Taylor Swift
Brings the necessary star quality...and the idea of her singing opposite Zac Efron...wow

I'd switch around the Christine and Stevie. Taylor has blue eyes like Christine and she's taller than Stevie. Much taller.

[g. fish]

Too easy. Margaret Hamilton as Stevie.

[HomerMcvie]

Too easy. Margaret Hamilton as Stevie.

I would like to buy you as many drinks as you'd like!:wavey::lol::wavey::lol::wavey:

[g. fish]

I would like to buy you as many drinks as you'd like!:wavey::lol::wavey::lol::wavey:

Actually, I think I owe you the drinks HomerMcvie for your ongoing humor.

But I was a bit surprised you didn't jump on this one first!

[HomerMcvie]

Actually, I think I owe you the drinks HomerMcvie for your ongoing humor.

But I was a bit surprised you didn't jump on this one first!

It's such a PITA to post pics here(for me, anyway).

But the wicked witch was PERFECT!!!:xoxo:

[petep9000]

Someone was workshopping a Rumours musical many years ago, never went anywhere though. At the time they were talking maybe opening it in London, but maybe the book was flimsy or they couldn't get backing, or the band killed it.

[elle]

This is what I think has the greatest probability of happening - a Stevie biopic - and I think it would have the full cooperation of Mick Fleetwood, but I doubt he'd be consulted much, as it's only Stevie's story that would matter. This would not be a documentary..

it would be a story similar to that Gold Dust Woman unauthorized bio - just read the excerpts, it's all there and that's what Stevie cult following is repeating all over social media:

highly talented, beautiful and hard working Stevie sacrifices and works 3-5 jobs (and she's fantastic at all of them, of course!) while songwriting and recording music and dragging along her no-talent loser annoying guitar-playing pot-smoking boyfriend to a fame and fortune even though he doesn't do anything for her or her music and cannot write any good songs or music let alone hits unlike our ultra-talented heroine and legendary icon. despite his uselessness he somehow still has the power in their highly successful band so she finally - finally! - has enough and manages to get rid of a loser from her band as she reaches the edge of 70, and becomes the boss in that band she alone single-handedly made famous and rich.

mark my words. this will happen. it already has a screenplay in Gold Dust Woman book.

[dreamsunwind]

it would be a story similar to that Gold Dust Woman unauthorized bio - just read the excerpts, it's all there and that's what Stevie cult following is repeating all over social media:

highly talented, beautiful and hard working Stevie sacrifices and works 3-5 jobs (and she's fantastic at all of them, of course!) while songwriting and recording music and dragging along her no-talent loser annoying guitar-playing pot-smoking boyfriend to a fame and fortune even though he doesn't do anything for her or her music and cannot write any good songs or music let alone hits unlike our ultra-talented heroine and legendary icon. despite his uselessness he somehow still has the power in their highly successful band so she finally - finally! - has enough and manages to get rid of a loser from her band as she reaches the edge of 70, and becomes the boss in that band she alone single-handedly made famous and rich.

mark my words. this will happen. it already has a screenplay in Gold Dust Woman book.

I really highly doubt a biopic about Stevie that is trying to be taken seriously would look anything like that lol. That's more like a Lifetime movie.
Not to mention pretty much zero 'real' Stevie fans respect that book as it's filled with very blatant inaccuracies and made up stories. It got tons of criticism from fans when it was released.

[michelej1]

despite his uselessness he somehow still has the power in their highly successful band so she finally - finally! - has enough and manages to get rid of a loser from her band as she reaches the edge of 70, and becomes the boss in that band she alone single-handedly made famous and rich.

mark my words. this will happen. it already has a screenplay in Gold Dust Woman book.

Edge of 70 is the best.

Also, her loser boyfriend that she literally and repeatedly drug up off the floor from smoking pot, succumbing to mononucleosis and just idly rolling around on the bathroom tiles because he liked the acoustic in there, was also really, really, really mean to her, even though she herself has always had the disposition of a Modest Angel (also the title of one of her many famous songs). Moreover, she and her loyal, back-packing assistant are both as dead honest as the day is long.

[Sapphire Girl]

We've had Queen, we'll soon have Elton John. I've read there are also upcoming films about James Brown, Miles Davis, Iggy Pop, Jimi Hendrix and Motley Crue. The music biopic is the in-thing. They need to get on and get that Fleetwood Mac story in the works.

Though I'd update my previous choices; Starting in 1974 and ending in 1980...

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/66/c2/65/66c265e71b8daa05cb50a308efc71e77.jpg

Mick Fleetwood: Robert Pattinson
Might be a bit 'pretty' but he rocks a beard and he's tall...not as tall as Mick but he's up there.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c4/14/6d/c4146dced61c934eb6df65845cf7fa35.jpg

John McVie: Daniel Radcliffe
He has the understated look.*snip*

Harry Potter and Cedric Diggory? :eek:

[FuzzyPlum]

Harry Potter and Cedric Diggory? :eek:

What a pairing! The Fleetwood Mac magic.

[TrueFaith77]

Wasn't there talk of a jukebox Mac musical?

I wonder if that sort of thing just breaks down now that Lindsey is out of the corporation.

It didn't hit me until now that kicking him out could potentially impact their future revenue streams that are not related to new music or touring.

Does Lindsey now have the ability to block all of that? Movies, musicals, movies based on musicals...

Or was anything like that a mess anyway with battling lawyers and agents?

[secret love]

Wasn't there talk of a jukebox Mac musical?

I wonder if that sort of thing just breaks down now that Lindsey is out of the corporation.

It didn't hit me until now that kicking him out could potentially impact their future revenue streams that are not related to new music or touring.

Does Lindsey now have the ability to block all of that? Movies, musicals, movies based on musicals...

Or was anything like that a mess anyway with battling lawyers and agents?
Hazarding a guess here ... I'd say no. You can't have it both ways. On the one hand, being "happy enough" with your payout from your former employer and on the other, blocking their creative directions and future incomes. Would Lindsey even want to do that, anyway?

[FuzzyPlum]

Wasn't there talk of a jukebox Mac musical?

I wonder if that sort of thing just breaks down now that Lindsey is out of the corporation.

It didn't hit me until now that kicking him out could potentially impact their future revenue streams that are not related to new music or touring.

Does Lindsey now have the ability to block all of that? Movies, musicals, movies based on musicals...

Or was anything like that a mess anyway with battling lawyers and agents?

I'd hazard a guess at yes. Without knowing the details of the deal that was struck- I'd assume that was purely a settlement regarding the lost tour income. Lindsey would surely retain his image rights and have a say in any future use of his identity that could result in financial gain.

[sweetdudejim]

How about Glenn Howerton from Always Sunny in Philadelphia as Lindsey?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BAvXydCCUAAbe61?format=jpg&name=small

[HomerMcvie]

How about Glenn Howerton from Always Sunny in Philadelphia as Lindsey?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BAvXydCCUAAbe61?format=jpg&name=small
That is a VERY close resemblance!

[jbrownsjr]

How about Glenn Howerton from Always Sunny in Philadelphia as Lindsey?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BAvXydCCUAAbe61?format=jpg&name=small

Fastastic!

[secret love]

I'd hazard a guess at yes. Without knowing the details of the deal that was struck- I'd assume that was purely a settlement regarding the lost tour income. Lindsey would surely retain his image rights and have a say in any future use of his identity that could result in financial gain.
There are movies about mass murderers with zero input from the (now in jail) mass murderers. Not talking about documentaries here. Once Upon a Time... in Hollywood which is out now is a re-imagining of a murder of Susan Tate, Roman Polansky's wife. It angered the family of Bruce Lee as Bruce Lee is portrayed in the film as a buffoon. I doubt they bothered to sue Quentin Tarantino, even still.

And who can forget how publicly angry Amy Winehouse's father was with how he was portrayed in the biopic "Amy"? He couldn't sue for defamation though because they used real life footage of him talking to Amy. The way he treated her was real.

[FuzzyPlum]

There are movies about mass murderers with zero input from the (now in jail) mass murderers. Not talking about documentaries here. Once Upon a Time... in Hollywood which is out now is a re-imagining of a murder of Susan Tate, Roman Polansky's wife. It angered the family of Bruce Lee as Bruce Lee is portrayed in the film as a buffoon. I doubt they bothered to sue Quentin Tarantino, even still.

And who can forget how publicly angry Amy Winehouse's father was with how he was portrayed in the biopic "Amy"? He couldn't sue for defamation though because they used real life footage of him talking to Amy. The way he treated her was real.

I imagine its difficult to sue somebody if you're a murderer in jail- but possible. Perhaps Bruce Lee's family could have sued if they felt it would have been worthwhile. I think image rights in America are quite complex- I think there are different laws in different states.

[bombaysaffires]

There are movies about mass murderers with zero input from the (now in jail) mass murderers. Not talking about documentaries here. Once Upon a Time... in Hollywood which is out now is a re-imagining of a murder of Susan Tate, Roman Polansky's wife. It angered the family of Bruce Lee as Bruce Lee is portrayed in the film as a buffoon. I doubt they bothered to sue Quentin Tarantino, even still.

And who can forget how publicly angry Amy Winehouse's father was with how he was portrayed in the biopic "Amy"? He couldn't sue for defamation though because they used real life footage of him talking to Amy. The way he treated her was real.

when you are a public figure and have given boatloads of interviews etc that are public you really can't stop someone from actually making a movie.

That's why Stevie never actually said, if you read her comments carefully, that she would stop Lindsay Lohan from making a movie about her, she said she would slam it in the press so hard no one would go see it.

Which actually is shockingly naive because the more she would bad mouth the movie the more attention it would get and the more people would want to go see it to see if what she complained about was true. And the critics etc would love it because it would give them a whole juicy story to write about.

It's actually got a name-- it's called the "Streisand effect" (google it). Short version is someone was publishing something (a coastal environmental study or some such) that inadvertently included a picture of Streisand's house. She made a big stink trying to get them to remove it or whatever and all it did was draw more attention and more people finding out where she lived-- the very thing she was trying to prevent. If she had just shut up about it not very many people would have seen the article and thus learned her address. So in bad mouthing the Lohan movie Stevie would in fact have been giving the movie MILLIONS in free publicity. Stupid.

But it speaks to Stevie's inflated opinion of herself and her power in the media. She's used this kind of argument many times within the band to get her way on stuff-- I think MIck even wrote about it in his first book-- she said "How will it look if I go to Rolling Stone or whoever and trash the album?" Ego much?

I suspect it stunned her the amount of negative backlash she got from the LB firing. You know it had to because they've largely kept her protected from any media contact, hidden away in her little ego cocoon where you know, she's a LEGEND and whatever delusions she has are treated as reality.

[vivfox]

Susan Tate, Roman Polansky's


Sharon Tate
Roman Polanski

[TrueFaith77]

There are movies about mass murderers with zero input from the (now in jail) mass murderers. Not talking about documentaries here. Once Upon a Time... in Hollywood which is out now is a re-imagining of a murder of Susan Tate, Roman Polansky's wife. It angered the family of Bruce Lee as Bruce Lee is portrayed in the film as a buffoon. I doubt they bothered to sue Quentin Tarantino, even still.

And who can forget how publicly angry Amy Winehouse's father was with how he was portrayed in the biopic "Amy"? He couldn't sue for defamation though because they used real life footage of him talking to Amy. The way he treated her was real.

I'm not referring to a depiction of Lindsey (though that's a good legal question; I just don't know), I'm referring to the use of his songs. If you can't use Go Your Own Way in a FM jukebox musical, what's the point?

[michelej1]

I'm not referring to a depiction of Lindsey (though that's a good legal question; I just don't know), I'm referring to the use of his songs. If you can't use Go Your Own Way in a FM jukebox musical, what's the point?

Fleetwood Mac owns those songs, not Lindsey personally. They can use them in a musical. Personally, he is entitled to royalties but cannot grant or withhold permission. You remember how angry Stevie was with Mick over SS. He didn’t want her to use her own song. Actually, they could stop Lindsey from using GYOW in a musical if they wanted.

Now, his SYW songs are different. I believe Lindsey does own those himself.

[HomerMcvie]

Fleetwood Mac owns those songs, not Lindsey personally. They can use them in a musical. Personally, he is entitled to royalties but cannot grant or withhold permission. You remember how angry Stevie was with Mick over SS. He didn’t want her to use her own song. Actually, they could stop Lindsey from using GYOW in a musical if they wanted.

Now, his SYW songs are different. I believe Lindsey does own those himself.
So who the hell sold GYOW for that bladder commercial(or whatever the hell it is?)?

FM or Lindsey?

EDIT- And now, Abominable?(just saw the trailer for it).


Okay, unless I hear differently, I have to blame Dick. I mean Mick. #f*ckingloser

[MikeInNV]

Fleetwood Mac owns those songs, not Lindsey personally. They can use them in a musical. Personally, he is entitled to royalties but cannot grant or withhold permission. You remember how angry Stevie was with Mick over SS. He didn’t want her to use her own song. Actually, they could stop Lindsey from using GYOW in a musical if they wanted.

Now, his SYW songs are different. I believe Lindsey does own those himself.

But there's a difference between owning a recording and owning the song, isn't there? Mick wouldn't give Stevie the recording of SS, but nothing could've stopped her from recording another version if she wanted to. (I don't follow Taylor Swift closely enough to know for sure, but isn't she talking about re-recording old albums due to a similar issue?)

[michelej1]

But there's a difference between owning a recording and owning the song, isn't there? Mick wouldn't give Stevie the recording of SS, but nothing could've stopped her from recording another version if she wanted to. (I don't follow Taylor Swift closely enough to know for sure, but isn't she talking about re-recording old albums due to a similar issue?)

Yes anyone can record GYOW as a plain record, as long as they pay ASCAP, BMI or whoever the publisher is. There’s a mechanical license to record the song and pay the writer and a master license to record the song and pay the artist, Fleetwood Mac (for the specific recording like you said).

But it is a little different for a musical. It’s a different license at issue because it involves both music and visual art. You would need a theatrical license to use it in a play. The owner of the copyright can give that permission. Lindsey only owns his 1975-1987 stuff as part of FM. FM is the copyright owner. You can record the audio without FM’s permission, but you can’t do a play without it.

Yes, youÂ’re right about Stevie. She couldÂ’ve recorded Silver Springs again.

[Villavic]

But there's a difference between owning a recording and owning the song, isn't there? Mick wouldn't give Stevie the recording of SS, but nothing could've stopped her from recording another version if she wanted to.

I think that's right, those are 2 different kind of rights. For example, in the Yesterday movie, actors were performing the songs in the film and not the Beatles themselves, so that made licensing the Beatles' music catalog relatively straightforward, or so I read. Director Danny Boyle said in interviews that the film was "blessed" by McCartney and Starr, as well as the estates of Lennon and Harrison.

[michelej1]

For a movie, even if you aren’t using the original recording and re-record, you still need permission.

Stevie could re-record SS without Fleetwood Mac’s permission and sell just the audio, but she couldn’t put it in a movie without the copyright owner’s permission. FM could put it in a movie without her permission and she’d get royalties as the writer. Of course, I recognize that she is part of Fleetwood Mac, so obviously she’s going to be involved in the decision. But there was a time when that was not the case.

What you CAN do without permission is audio and a live performance (but you can’t sell a dvd of that live performance without permission) like a concert. For that, you just pay ASCAP, BMI, etc and that gives you a blanket right to use it.

[jbrownsjr]

For a movie, even if you aren’t using the original recording and re-record, you still need permission.

Stevie could re-record SS without Fleetwood Mac’s permission and sell just the audio, but she couldn’t put it in a movie without the copyright owner’s permission. FM could put it in a movie without her permission and she’d get royalties as the writer. Of course, I recognize that she is part of Fleetwood Mac, so obviously she’s going to be involved in the decision. But there was a time when that was not the case.

What you CAN do without permission is audio and a live performance (but you can’t sell a dvd of that live performance without permission) like a concert. For that, you just pay ASCAP, BMI, etc and that gives you a blanket right to use it.

$he can do whatever $he wants now, and you know it! :wavey: Because I'm not the bo$$ of this band.

[elle]

https://www.thewrap.com/black-list-2019-films-on-fleetwood-mac-barron-trump-nicolas-cage-among-list-of-best-unproduced-scripts/

Black List 2019: Films on Fleetwood Mac, Barron Trump, Nicolas Cage Among List of Best Unproduced Scripts

66 screenplays make up 15th edition of annual list
Brian Welk | December 16, 2019 @ 12:14 PM Last Updated: December 16, 2019 @ 12:59 PM
The Black List

The 2019 edition of the annual Black List was unveiled by founder Franklin Leonard on Monday, and films about the band Fleetwood Mac, President Trump’s son Barron Trump and a meta-movie about Nicolas Cage are among the best, unproduced screenplays circling the industry.

The 15th edition of the Black List featured 66 different scripts, some of which already have financiers, while others are still seeking backing.

Among some of the notable titles is “Barron: A Tale of Love, Loss and Legacy,” a script by Nicolas Curcio that follows Barron Trump at age 10 ahead of the 2016 election as he attempts to sabotage his father’s 2016 presidential campaign after he fears what becoming part of the first family would have on his personal life.

“Rumours” is a musical biopic about the life of Stevie Nicks and Lindsey Buckingham as the two friends and lovers join Fleetwood Mac and are thrown into a world of fame, drug addiction and potentially the disintegration of their relationship after writing one of the best selling albums of all time. Tyler Austin and Patrick Eme wrote the script.

There’s also “The Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent,” which is a meta-movie about actor Nicolas Cage as he decides to make an appearance at the birthday party of a Mexican billionaire and head of a drug cartel as he tries to get out of a spiral of debt. Interestingly enough however, the film piqued the interest of Cage himself, who will star in the film that is already being backed by Lionsgate. Kevin Etten and Tom Gormican wrote the script.

Topping the list with 29 mentions among the Hollywood executives who voted on the list is “Move On” by writer Ken Kobayashi. The film is a sci-fi about a man who thinks he’s the only one left alive after all of humanity has been frozen in time, only to discover that someone else still alive is his ex-girlfriend, with whom he must go on a journey to figure out the cause of the freeze. Sony is already financing the film from producer Olive Bridge.

The Black List is not a list of the “best” screenplays but the most “liked” screenplays. Founder Franklin Leonard compiles a survey of 250 film executives who each contribute a list of their 10 favorites that circulated in 2019 and have not yet begun principal photography, though some of the films already have financial support and other backing. A film must have had at least six mentions from film executives before it could be considered for the list.

This year, 29% of the scripts are written by at least one woman, and 58% of the films could be described as “female-driven,” according to a graph shared on Twitter by The Black List. The group adds that on average over the last four years, approximately 26% have been written by women.

Some movies that have appeared on The Black List in past years include this year’s “A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood,” “Jojo Rabbit and “Booksmart.”

Since the launch of the first Black List in 2005, more than 440 scripts have been produced, grossing over $28 billion in box office worldwide. Black List movies have won 53 Academy Awards from 262 nominations, including four of the last twelve Best Picture Oscars and ten of the last twenty-four Best Screenplay Oscars.

View the full list of scripts here.

[elle]

https://www.thewrap.com/black-list-2019-films-on-fleetwood-mac-barron-trump-nicolas-cage-among-list-of-best-unproduced-scripts/

Black List 2019: Films on Fleetwood Mac, Barron Trump, Nicolas Cage Among List of Best Unproduced Scripts

66 screenplays make up 15th edition of annual list
Brian Welk | December 16, 2019 @ 12:14 PM Last Updated: December 16, 2019 @ 12:59 PM
The Black List


Full list of scripts and who is behind them here:
https://files.blcklst.com/files/2019_black_list_v3.pdf?fbclid=IwAR1fEOGiSe5R84bqRYMvLcFjRFnD1e_dQUbK_2L5RZSU-4srxeygcykdmGY

[bombaysaffires]

call me cynical, but I don't hold much hope for any movies about the band or Buckingham Nicks. I expect too much focus on the salacious aspects like drug use and yelling at each other rather than a real look at the fundamental dynamics of that relationship, which is the far more interesting part. :shrug:

[David]

I expect too much focus on the salacious aspects like drug use and yelling at each other
If it happens at all, that’s what we’ll see. There’s nowhere else for a biopic to go but in the direction of mass-market reduction and sensationalism and extreme ellipsis. And those are the same qualities that the band members and their circle have repeated since talking about the band became its own industry. Things that we’ve been despairing over for years—the way harmless or inconsequential conversations or events have been blown up into deathless fables, covered by a crust of misinterpretation and misstatement—will be the essence of any such movie. Of course we’ll all watch, but it’ll be aggravating.

Remember that TV dramatization a few years ago and how painfully bad it was?

[elle]

If it happens at all, that’s what we’ll see. There’s nowhere else for a biopic to go but in the direction of mass-market reduction and sensationalism and extreme ellipsis. And those are the same qualities that the band members and their circle have repeated since talking about the band became its own industry. Things that we’ve been despairing over for years—the way harmless or inconsequential conversations or events have been blown up into deathless fables, covered by a crust of misinterpretation and misstatement—will be the essence of any such movie. Of course we’ll all watch, but it’ll be aggravating.

Remember that TV dramatization a few years ago and how painfully bad it was?

and wasn't that while Lindsey was still a full-rights member of the band? imagine now!

[button-lip]

I honestly don't see the point in a Fleetwood Mac or a Buckingham Nicks movie. What's there to know? That Stevie hates Lindsey since forever? :nod::nod:

Really, it will be all a bunch of lies to bury Lindsey even more.

[HomerMcvie]

I honestly don't see the point in a Fleetwood Mac or a Buckingham Nicks movie. What's there to know? That Stevie hates Lindsey since forever? :nod::nod:

Really, it will be all a bunch of lies to bury Lindsey even more.

That old hag $tevie will see to it that he comes across as ugly as possible. And the old hag will come across as being an angel.

I hope it never happens.

[Wdm6789]

Margot Robbie as Christine McVie

[jbrownsjr]

Rosanne could play Stevie if she wore a wig of blonde hair. She's got the voice for it.

[Sanne2]

Florence Pugh as Stevie:

[HomerMcvie]

Rosanne could play Stevie if she wore a wig of blonde hair. She's got the voice for it.

Omfg, Roseanne would be perfect as $tevie!:xoxo:

I think she bears an uncanny resemblance to $tevie as well!

[jbrownsjr]

Omfg, Roseanne would be perfect as $tevie!:xoxo:

I think she bears an uncanny resemblance to $tevie as well!

From like the Dance years, to present. The voice with a wig of long blonde hair she'd be perfect.