Setlist Speculation with Christine. [Archive]

louielouie2000

12-05-2013, 05:53 PM

Ok, so here's the setlist from the Dance tour:

The Chain
Dreams
Everywhere
Gold Dust Woman
I'm So Afraid
Temporary One
Bleed To Love Her
Gypsy
Big Love
Go Insane
Landslide
Say You Love Me
Sweet Girl
You Make Loving Fun
My Little Demon
Stand Back
Oh Daddy
Not That Funny
Rhiannon
Second Hand News
Silver Springs
Tusk
Go Your Own Way
Don't Stop
Songbird
Farmer's Daughter

I've highlighted Christine's songs in red, obviously. I think it's safe to say Temporary One will be replaced, very likely by a brand new song. The one song of Christine's I really, really hope stays is Oh Daddy.

Farmer's Daughter is a group song, but I see it getting axed, too.

It's my sincere wish the solo songs (Go Insane & Stand Back) will get the ax in favor of either 1) brand new songs 2) classic FM songs (like Sara or Eyes Of The World).

As far as Lindsey goes, My Little Demon is out, probably replaced by a brand new song. Bleed To Love Her may have the same fate... but since it was on the Dance & Say You Will and has Stevie & Christine's voices on both versions, it might just make the cut. Seems like it would be a full circle kind of thing.

Regarding Stevie, Sweet Girl is definitely out, hopefully replaced by a brand new song. I wouldn't mind seeing Sara in the setlist, either... but that probably means she'd have to drop something like Gypsy. So who knows? :shrug:

Ulpian

12-05-2013, 06:04 PM

Will World Turning count as as Christine song, even though she didn't sing on it in London this year? ;)

I would think she would do: Don't Stop, Songbird, You Make Loving Fun, Say You Love Me, either Over My Head or Oh Daddy, and then possibly one of her TITN songs. So, really probably not that different to The Dance. Given the success of Everywhere amongst the younger generation in the uk, I'd hope she would do that one.

If she threw a curve ball - unlikely as it seems - I'd love Isn't it Midnight...

ryan4136

12-05-2013, 06:31 PM

This is so FREAKIN AWESOME, to just be able to talk about this with it being a plausible reality. Never thought I'd see the day again.

elle

12-05-2013, 07:27 PM

Ok, so here's the setlist from the Dance tour:

The Chain
Dreams
Everywhere
Gold Dust Woman
I'm So Afraid
Temporary One
Bleed To Love Her
Gypsy
Big Love
Go Insane
Landslide
Say You Love Me
Sweet Girl
You Make Loving Fun
My Little Demon
Stand Back
Oh Daddy
Not That Funny
Rhiannon
Second Hand News
Silver Springs
Tusk
Go Your Own Way
Don't Stop
Songbird
Farmer's Daughter

and this year's setlist:

1. Second Hand News
2. The Chain
3. Dreams
4. Sad Angel
5. Rhiannon
6. Not That Funny
7. Tusk
8. Sisters of the Moon
9. Sara
10. Big Love
11. Landslide
12. Never Going Back Again
13. Without You
14. Gypsy
15. Eyes of the World
16. Gold Dust Woman
17. I'm So Afraid
18. Stand Back
19. Go Your Own Way
20. World Turning
21. Don't Stop
22. Silver Springs
23. Say Goodbye

overlaps bolded.

all Stevie's 1997 songs other than Sweet Girl were performed in 2013. additions were SOTM, Sara, and WY.

of Lindsey's 1997 songs BTLH, Go Insane, and MLD were not performed in 2013, and Sad Angel, NGBA, Eyes and Say Goodbye were replacements.

WT was Lindsey/Christine song performed in 2013.

Don't Stop Christine's song performed on both tours.

elle

12-05-2013, 07:35 PM

^^ so unless i'm missing something (quite possible!), in 1997 they were doing 9 LB's, 8 SN's and 7 CM's tunes?? not exactly an equal distribution...

anyway, based on the above comparison and what i finally got through my thick head (i.e. Rumours-era FM setlists NEVER ever change and never will :rolleyes: ) - it is unfortunately very easy to see what we'll hear on any future Rumours 5 tour:

Sweet Girl will be replaced by Sara, everything else will be exactly the same as during the dance.

since LB had 9 songs in 1997, his wings will be clipped down so he'll do 8 the most, and will not do GI (hasn't already this year) or MLD, and will replace these 2 with 1 song - NGBA (which he never skips anymore); and then he'll either add a brand new song or more probably we'll have Eyes again.

I have no personal experience with Christine's songs in the setlist... but looking at their other setlists with her... probably not much change there either.

michelej1

12-05-2013, 09:28 PM

I know it's a Rumours song and they feel morally bound to perform all of them -- except the shunned IDWTK (which maybe I can get Ryan Murphy to play on American Horror Story) -- but I would love to see Oh Daddy bite the concert dust.

Now, when it comes to rare songs they haven't played, it's easy to get a Tusk song in, past the censors. So, that's our best chance to have a different Christine song make its way into the setlist if it is from Tusk.

Michele

Phil

12-05-2013, 09:59 PM

I've been thinking about a proposed set-list featuring Christine the last few days and whilst I'm also thrilled about her imminent return, I have concluded that it will essentially set the "greatest hits" routine in stone (with very little room for experimentation regarding rarely performed or new tracks).
If there were 25 songs performed (and we can't necessarily take this for granted), the split would most likely be 8 each plus The Chain (I'd love to see that replaced with The Farmer's Daughter but it seems unlikely). If this were to be the case, I just can't see them dispensing with the following:

Stevie:
Rhiannon
Landslide
Dreams
Gold Dust Woman
Silver Springs
Sara
Gypsy
Stand Back (surely someone will tell her at some point how inappropriate this track is for a Mac concert - maybe Christine has the balls?)

Christine:
Over My Head
Say You Love Me
World Turning
Don't Stop
Songbird
You Make Lovin' Fun
Oh Daddy
Everywhere

Christine's in the unique position whereupon she could easily trot the above tracks out and be forgiven due to her extended absence. However, I would dare to hope for the likes of Think About Me (or anything from Tusk), Hold Me and Little Lies (yes I think they should give this a shot with Lindsey replicating the studio arrangement).

Lindsey:
Monday Morning
I'm So Afraid
Second Hand News
Never Going Back Again
Go Your Own Way
Tusk
Big Love (I'm still holding out for the album version)
Sad Angel

Lindsey might remain a little more flexible than the others since only a few of his tracks were genuine "hits" and he is always more prone to changing things around. It would not be surprising for him to do the likes of Not That Funny, I Know I'm Not Wrong, Eyes Of The World or a selection from the Say You Will album. If I had my way, he'd just play all of his songs from the Tusk album and ditch the staples.

Therefore, I don't imagine we'll be treated to Fireflies, Warm Ways, Save Me A Place, Honey Hi, That's Alright, Book Of Love, Straight Back, Wish You Were Here, Seven Wonders, Tango In The Night, Isn't It Midnight or Thrown Down... more's the pity.

SteveMacD

12-05-2013, 09:59 PM

Considering they did 26 songs on "The Dance" tour, I think they could give each singer eight songs, plus count "The Chain" and "World Turning" as band songs. Since this isn't quit the big reunion, I'd like to see them take some daring chances in the set. There are about 14 songs they pretty much have to play, but that leaves twelve songs they can kind of go crazy with. Here are my choices:

Say You Love Me
The Chain
Dreams
Love Shines
Peacekeeper
Rhiannon
I'm So Afraid
Thrown Down
Book Of Love
Everywhere (actually, I'd rather have "I Do," but that'll never happen)
Sad Angel
Gold Dust Woman
Calumny
Big Love
Landslide
Get Like You Used To Be ("O.K. Ken?" version, with just Mick, John, and Christine playing)
Without You
World Turning
Steal Your Heart Away
Straight Back
Tusk
You Make Loving Fun
Go Your Own Way

Twisted
Don't Stop

Never Forget

michelej1

12-05-2013, 10:03 PM

You guys remember: even if there isn't an entire album, there will at the very least be another EP featuring songs with Christine on them. So, add two of those new songs into your setlists.

Michele

SteveMacD

12-05-2013, 10:04 PM

Another idea I had was to do a proper tour for "Tango In The Night," since they never really did that with Lindsey. But,they couldn't play anything that came after 1987:

Tango In The Night ->The Chain (i.e. the In The Back Of My Mind -> The Chain from 1990)
Say You Love Me
Dreams
Second Hand News
Gypsy
Everywhere
Seven Wonders
Caroline
Isn't It Midnight
Rhiannon
I'm So Afraid
Gold Dust Woman
Big Love
Landslide
Mystified
Family Man
World Turning
Little Lies
Sara
Tusk
You Make Loving Fun
Go Your Own Way

Stand Back
Don't Stop

You & I, pt II

louielouie2000

12-05-2013, 10:05 PM

I know it's a Rumours song and they feel morally bound to perform all of them -- except the shunned IDWTK (which maybe I can get Ryan Murphy to play on American Horror Story) -- but I would love to see Oh Daddy bite the concert dust.

I Don't Want To Know replacing Oh Daddy? You're off my Christmas card list. :p

Now, when it comes to rare songs they haven't played, it's easy to get a Tusk song in, past the censors. So, that's our best chance to have a different Christine song make its way into the setlist if it is from Tusk.

Michele

Brown Eyes is probably my favorite Christine song, likely my favorite Fleetwood Mac song. But it was just DULL live. On the other hand, Over & Over really came to life onstage. I think I'd die if they dusted off Think About Me. :nod:

SteveMacD

12-05-2013, 10:07 PM

You guys remember: even if there isn't an entire album, there will at the very least be another EP featuring songs with Christine on them. So, add two of those new songs into your setlists.
We don't know that for sure. It would be great, and easily possible, but it's not yet etched in stone.

michelej1

12-05-2013, 10:13 PM

We don't know that for sure. It would be great, and easily possible, but it's not yet etched in stone.

It looks like Lindsey was trying to get another EP out, even if Christine hadn't returned. I can't imagine there not being one if she does, since the threshold for making it happen will have lowered substantially. Because all he'd have to do is get Chris to sing on it and she and Mick have said that she's written some songs herself, to add into the mix.

An EP (at the very least) is not etched in stone, but neither is her return. Yet.

Michele

elle

12-05-2013, 10:41 PM

this will be the setlist people, no need to even think much about it:

All:
The Chain

Stevie:
Dreams
Rhiannon
Gypsy
Landslide
Gold Dust Woman
Sara
Stand Back
Silver Springs

Lindsey:
I'm So Afraid
Big Love
Second Hand News
Tusk
Go Your Own Way
Never Going Back Again
Not That Funny
Eyes of the World

Christine:
Everywhere
Say You Love Me
You Make Loving Fun
Don't Stop
Songbird
Oh Daddy
Over My Head
either Brown Eyes or Isn't It Midnight... or possibly World Turning (especially since Mick needs his showcase drum solo)

in bold are songs set in stone (i.e. the ones that history has shown us they will never ever change). that means that if they each get 8 songs, maybe there is a room for Stevie to change 1 song, Lindsey 2, and Christine 3.

elle

12-05-2013, 10:47 PM

It looks like Lindsey was trying to get another EP out, even if Christine hadn't returned. I can't imagine there not being one if she does, since the threshold for making it happen will have lowered substantially. Because all he'd have to do is get Chris to sing on it and she and Mick have said that she's written some songs herself, to add into the mix.

An EP (at the very least) is not etched in stone, but neither is her return. Yet.

Michele

the only thing i see stopping that is if John's health turns to worse.

Christine has not only written, but already recorded several songs (what did she say? 3? 5? can't remember and lazy to search). and we know MoM have also recorded additional 5. they just have to add each others' vocals, tweak them some, and they are done. Lindsey and Christine both want to put new songs out... the only thing that can stop that is band politics.

SteveMacD

12-05-2013, 10:50 PM

Christine:
Everywhere
Say You Love Me
You Make Loving Fun
Don't Stop
Songbird
Oh Daddy
Over My Head
either Brown Eyes or Isn't It Midnight... or possibly World Turning (especially since Mick needs his showcase drum solo).
Maybe even Little Lies.

Since "World Turning" is 50/50 Lindsey and Christine, I listed that in the "all" category.

michelej1

12-05-2013, 10:56 PM

this will be the setlist people, no need to even think much about it:

I mostly agree with you, but I don't think Silver Springs is totally etched.

Then too Everywhere. Common sense dictates that they should play it because of the pony, but they're kind of psychotic. They would find an odd reason NOT to play it. I'm kind of proud of myself because I mentioned Mick's VIP package and that got Fleetwood Mac mentioned on a podcast and one of the hosts said that now that Christine was returning, he'd go see their show because Everywhere is his favorite song.

Also, I know you didn't bold it, but Eyes of the World is very iffy, to me.

Michele

michelej1

12-05-2013, 10:57 PM

Maybe even Little Lies.

That's like a knife in the heart. Don't send this band back to ABBA.

Michele

elle

12-05-2013, 11:02 PM

Also, I know you didn't bold it, but Eyes of the World is very iffy, to me.

i was shocked they did Eyes again on this tour. but i think that was because to keep the pace in the set with just Stevie's and Lindsey's songs, basically ALL his songs they use need to be rocking or midtempo, since she has practically none. when Christine is there, she has a mix of different tempo songs so it can free him to do something slower instead of Eyes. (did i mention Walk A Thin Line? :angel: )

elle

12-05-2013, 11:04 PM

Maybe even Little Lies.

Since "World Turning" is 50/50 Lindsey and Christine, I listed that in the "all" category.

yeah i would too if it were up to me, but with 8 songs each that would take them up to 26 songs... they don't do that. they do 10 min ramblings instead. ;)

SteveMacD

12-05-2013, 11:10 PM

yeah i would too if it were up to me, but with 8 songs each that would take them up to 26 songs... they don't do that. they do 10 min ramblings instead. ;)
They did 26 songs on "The Dance" tour.

Maybe Christine's legendary sarcasm/English wit will curb some of that.

elle

12-05-2013, 11:11 PM

They did 26 songs on "The Dance" tour.

Maybe Christine's legendary sarcasm/English wit will curb some of that.

oh ok, missed that. then i'm with you - 26 songs with The Chain and WT as the band songs.

counting on her!

michelej1

12-05-2013, 11:35 PM

Yes, I don't think we'll have 9 minute stories with Christine there.

I will miss them a great deal though, to be honest.

I don't know if you can count on Christine's wit to save anything. Every time Lindsey asked, "isn't this weird" she answered "that is pretty weird" just like she did on the DVD. You'd have thought she would switch it up a little, since he wouldn't.

Michele

secondhandchain

12-06-2013, 01:20 AM

michelej1

12-06-2013, 01:37 AM

i was shocked they did Eyes again on this tour. but i think that was because to keep the pace in the set with just Stevie's and Lindsey's songs, basically ALL his songs they use need to be rocking or midtempo, since she has practically none.

If I thought that none of Stevie's songs were rocking or midtempo, I would have killed myself a long time ago.

Michele

SteveMacD

12-06-2013, 02:29 AM

If I thought that none of Stevie's songs were rocking or midtempo, I would have killed myself a long time ago.
They USED to rock...It's been about 30 years.

michelej1

12-06-2013, 03:17 AM

They USED to rock...It's been about 30 years.

Which reminds me, not only could Rhiannon get re-rocked, but they could try SOTM for one more tour and rev things up this time.

Michele

seekerj

12-06-2013, 08:22 AM

That's like a knife in the heart. Don't send this band back to ABBA.

Michele

I never understood why you perceive it that way. "Little Lies" is not the ABBA song. "Everywhere" is. Maybe it's even too wimpy to be ABBA. It's more Leo Sayer. No wait, he's even more rock than "Everywhere". There is no song ever recorded that is less rock and more glossy pop schlock than "Everywhere".

SteveMacD

12-06-2013, 08:44 AM

MikeInNV

12-06-2013, 09:18 AM

I Think you have nailed it. I hope they replace Over my head (which isn't as great live) with Hold me or LIttle Lies.

Really? In a live setting, I think OMH is vastly better than Hold me and Little Lies.

nicole21290

12-06-2013, 09:19 AM

"Silly Love Songs"

Ha! They're all pretty much sitting tight together in that 'genre'. Though Silly Love Songs has a KILLER bassline...

SteveMacD

12-06-2013, 09:31 AM

Really? In a live setting, I think OMH is vastly better than Hold me and Little Lies.
Depends. The '70s versions were killer. However, despite a noble effort by John McVie, "The Dance" version was pretty bland.

kak125

12-06-2013, 10:28 AM

I would totally die just to hear Little Lies live just once in my lifetime. Ahh that would be so fantastic!!

chiliD

12-06-2013, 11:23 AM

SteveMacD

12-06-2013, 11:44 AM

....and what's wrong with that?

:lol:

Well played. :laugh:

jbrownsjr

12-06-2013, 12:44 PM

....and what's wrong with that?

:lol:

I'd like to know.

michelej1

12-06-2013, 02:13 PM

Really? In a live setting, I think OMH is vastly better than Hold me and Little Lies.

I can't speak for today, with their current voices, but in the past, they sounded amazing together on OMH. I'm not going to say it's better than Hold Me though, although I know Hold Me was, apparently a disappointment to them in concert.

Michele

michelej1

12-06-2013, 02:14 PM

I Don't Want To Know replacing Oh Daddy? You're off my Christmas card list. :p

I'd rather they do almost any song in their repertoire than Oh Daddy.

Michele

michelej1

12-06-2013, 02:20 PM

I never understood why you perceive it that way. "Little Lies" is not the ABBA song. "Everywhere" is. Maybe it's even too wimpy to be ABBA. It's more Leo Sayer. No wait, he's even more rock than "Everywhere". There is no song ever recorded that is less rock and more glossy pop schlock than "Everywhere".

I would say that Little Lies is not a bad song, it's just done very bad things to FM's reputation. It's not actually facile musically. Just the chorus ruins it.

So, I have no problem with it in my own home, but I don't want it out in public. This is the last tour for all of them (probably) and to open up my paper twice a week and read all the catty Little Lies reviews would be kind of sad. Even though I don't think Little Lies is thoroughly awful, I find Everywhere superior to Little Lies in almost every way.

Michele

MacShadowsBall

12-06-2013, 03:22 PM

I think elle's got it basically right with what the Mac would do if and when Christine returns on tour.

a mix of the Dance combined with the setlist from the 2013 tour....

World Turning
Say You Love Me
Over My Head
You Make Loving Fun
Don't Stop
Songbird
...one song from Tusk and another from Tango in the Night.

I say remove all solo songs, Without You, and Sad Angel. :cool:

jbrownsjr

12-06-2013, 05:09 PM

I'd rather they do almost any song in their repertoire than Oh Daddy.

Michele

God Calumny would be hot with LB and SN.

moon

12-06-2013, 07:50 PM

Mmmm let me see...

- Don't Stop obviously
- Songbird, yes
- World Turning, maybe, but I think Stevie would sing with Christine, you know, maybe because she sang her part in the past tours...
- Over my Head, nice choice
- You make loving fun

I don't see Say You Love Me or any TITN or Tusk song in a possible setlist. We'll see...
Regards!

SteveMacD

12-06-2013, 07:52 PM

This is the last tour for all of them (probably)
I'm still not convinced. Didn't Christine say something along the lines of "until we're ninety [the chemistry between the five of them] will still be there"? I think there's more than one tour left in the band.

michelej1

12-06-2013, 09:22 PM

God Calumny would be hot with LB and SN.

It would be interesting to see what kind of background vocal arrangement they would work out. The "then he sings to me, so soft and sweet part ..." And then I wonder what kind of ending they would give it.

Michele

michelej1

12-06-2013, 09:23 PM

I'm still not convinced. Didn't Christine say something along the lines of "until we're ninety [the chemistry between the five of them] will still be there"? I think there's more than one tour left in the band.

The spirit may be willing, that's true. Michele

michelej1

12-06-2013, 09:26 PM

I don't see Say You Love Me or any TITN or Tusk song in a possible setlist. We'll see...
Regards!

I kind of agree with you about TITN songs, although it breaks my heart not to have this line up ever do Isn't it Midnight.

Lindsey said that he didn't watch them perform without him (not even when he appeared at the BTM shows), so I imagine he might have no idea how Isn't it Midnight can sound live.

SYLM was such a hit on The Dance tour, I don't know why they'd omit it.

Michele

SteveMacD

12-06-2013, 09:56 PM

I don't see Say You Love Me or any TITN or Tusk song in a possible setlist. We'll see...
Hell, I have them opening with SYLM, and I bet "Everywhere" is back, too. Fleetwood Mac with Christine McVie have done it every tour since it's release.

I kind of agree with you about TITN songs, although it breaks my heart not to have this line up ever do Isn't it Midnight.
Although, it has to be said Rick Vito did an amazing job on that song live. After what he did with it, it may be a disappointment if Lindsey did it. Still, I'd kind of like the proper "Tango In The Night" tour.

AliceLover

12-07-2013, 09:01 AM

Ugh, Over My Head and Oh Daddy are so DULL!

Realistic choices: Isn't it Midnight, Everywhere, or Little Lies

Long shots: Love Shines, Heart of Stone, Never Make Me Cry

vivfox

12-07-2013, 10:26 AM

I would really like to hear Little Lies in concert with the three of them singing.

louielouie2000

12-07-2013, 04:51 PM

Holy crap, how did I never know Fleetwood Mac performed Brown Eyes on the Shake The Cage Tour in '87?! :shocked:

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Rick's blues guitar totally fixes all the issues I had with the earlier tours live renditions of the song. BRING ON BROWN EYES!! :thumbsup:

goldustsongbird

12-07-2013, 05:04 PM

I can't speak for today, with their current voices, but in the past, they sounded amazing together on OMH. I'm not going to say it's better than Hold Me though, although I know Hold Me was, apparently a disappointment to them in concert.

Michele

If Christine could sing it on her own or with Lindsey, the way she did on the rough demo, that would be a-ok. The Mirage tour rehearsals for Hold Me were abysmal.

EDIT: http://www.mediafire.com/listen/jywi2doymzx/06%20Hold%20Me%20-%20roughouttake.mp3

Nicks Fan

12-07-2013, 09:22 PM

If this reunion does happen I think the setlist will be very similar to the Dance tour. The only exceptions I could see is dropping the new material that was on the Dance (Except for maybe BTLH) and if there is new material they will some of the new songs. Personally I could do without any solo songs from the band members and I would like it if they really dug deep but I doubt they will.

My setlist would be the following. I am not going to include any new material slots but I will include some of the standard songs they play virtually every tour.

1. The Chain
2. Dreams
3. Everywhere
4. Seven Wonders
5. Gold Dust Woman
6. I'm So Afraid
7 Bleed To Love Her
8. Rhiannon
9. Oh Well
10. Big Love
11.Landslide
12. Say You Love Me (Dance Version)
13. You Make Loving Fun
14. Beautiful Child
15. Brown Eyes
16. Tango In The Night
17. Oh Daddy
18. I Don't Wanna Know
19. Hold Me
20. Blue Letter
21. Tusk
22. Go Your Own Way

23. World Turning
24. Don't Stop
25. Songbird

26. Farmers Daughter or Crystal would a nice surprise.

I left out some staples and even reluctantly put in songs I am sick of hearing live (NGBA, BL, Tusk, WT) simply because 1) they will likely be in the setlist and 2) For the songs where she would be singing having her back might make them sound fresh. At this point any song they have not over played or played at all live would be welcome in the setlist. I am not a fan of NTF but when they did it this year I was happy as it was something that had not been performed in 16 years. Same goes for SOTM.

The problem is once again they will cater to the casual fans so I am sure that with a few minor tweaks the Dance Setlist will be what is done for the next tour should there be one.

BlueDenimLamp

12-07-2013, 09:36 PM

If this reunion does happen I think the setlist will be very similar to the Dance tour.

The problem is once again they will cater to the casual fans so I am sure that with a few minor tweaks the Dance Setlist will be what is done for the next tour should there be one.

If they reunite and record a full album & tour behind it it's possible they may perform half a dozen NEWsongs...Stevie did this with IYD and may push for FM to do the same...

elle

12-07-2013, 09:42 PM

If they reunite and record a full album & tour behind it it's possible they may perform half a dozen NEWsongs

yes Rumours-era line up did that with every album they had out, right? at least SYW they had 6+ new songs.

Lindsey had 6 new songs during SWS tour, and i think every single one of his solo tours actually (other than OMS which was not the tour to support new album). and he did 6 songs that nobody ever heard before at Saban. and a number of previously unreleased songs for Soundstage.

they did 2 new songs before EP was out too, on the current tour.

so there's a lot of history there, and one can with certainty say that if they have a new album out they'll do at least 6 new songs from it.

Nicks Fan

12-07-2013, 09:48 PM

If they reunite and record a full album & tour behind it it's possible they may perform half a dozen NEWsongs...Stevie did this with IYD and may push for FM to do the same...

I agree. I am just speculating that they may do a tour first or maybe just a live one off date and then either release that and tour or go into the studio and cut new material and then tour. It is hard to say what they will do. I want new music but not if takes them years to get it out.

elle

12-07-2013, 09:52 PM

I agree. I am just speculating that they may do a tour first or maybe just a live one off date and then either release that and tour or go into the studio and cut new material and then tour. It is hard to say what they will do. I want new music but not if takes them years to get it out.

if they are booked for glasto they'll do some touring in 2014. but plenty of time to finish that album before june.

i really can't stand the thought of years and years of mac touring. my wallet can even less.

but i do want to see them perform with Christine. preferably with some new material instead of that old tour i've seen throughout this year.

BlueDenimLamp

12-07-2013, 09:54 PM

BlueDenimLamp

12-07-2013, 10:09 PM

if they are booked for glasto they'll do some touring in 2014.

Are they actually booked for Glastonbury or was Mick just rambling and wishing they were???

elle

12-07-2013, 10:12 PM

Are they actually booked for Glastonbury or was Mick just rambling and wishing they were???

no clue. :shrug:

Macfanforever

12-09-2013, 01:34 AM

I missed her songs in the setlist .I just be happy to hear her play and sing them .

sywlindseyfan

12-14-2013, 06:35 PM

I know that the Mac like to have a really big punch at the beginning of their concerts like Monday Morning, or the Chain. Since Christine will most like be coming back, I propose they open with Believe Me. They could share different verses with all three of them. and still get the Chris vibe that she's back! It would be one big "Guess what? The Mac is back!" to the audience, and a prominent return for Chris to the stage, plus Lindsey the orchestra leader can have his big intro sound.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5usZPMjEg0k

Hawkeye

12-15-2013, 04:31 AM

While I'd love believe me, the more realistic and I would put a lt of money on it if Christine comes back is say you love me for the opening song.

SpyNote

12-15-2013, 11:13 AM

jbrownsjr

12-15-2013, 12:26 PM

While I'd love believe me, the more realistic and I would put a lt of money on it if Christine comes back is say you love me for the opening song.

Was thinking the same thing.

sywlindseyfan

12-15-2013, 12:38 PM

Was thinking the same thing.

Yes, Of course, that was my other guess. Imagine the arena gets dark, and then ...those familiar piano chords...SWEET!

I like The Chain, but not as an opener anymore, let's Change it up!!!!

vivfox

12-15-2013, 12:55 PM

I like The Chain, but not as an opener anymore, let's Change it up!!!!

This is FM you are talking about. Get real.:lol:

applebucked

12-15-2013, 01:13 PM

This is FM you are talking about. Get real.:lol:
If they ever change it up, I'll eat this hat.

michelej1

12-15-2013, 03:33 PM

For Christine's return they might open with the Chain, although for the first song, the crowd is so excited just to see them that the choice of first song becomes secondary, getting lost in the rush. So they should save The Chain for the second song so that it can be properly welcomed, but I could see them opening with it, as a statement.

Michele

Hawkeye

12-15-2013, 04:39 PM

Yes, Of course, that was my other guess. Imagine the arena ges dark, and then ...those familiar piano chords...SWEET!

I like The Chain, but not as an opener anymore, let's Change it up!!!!

They've had a different opening song then the chain on both the previous tours. Monday morning in 09 and second hand news this year. And really while the impression is the chain has been their standard opener forever it's really only opened three tours. Time the dance and say you will. I think the fact that it opens both the mirage and tango videos gives us the allusion it's had this super long opening song streak. Those videos do a great job disguising that second hand news and say you love me were played first.

michelej1

12-15-2013, 04:44 PM

They've had a different opening song then the chain on both the previous tours. Monday morning in 09 and second hand news this year. And really while the impression is the chain has been their standard opener forever it's really only opened three tours. Time the dance and say you will. I think the fact that it opens both the mirage and tango videos gives us the allusion it's had this super long opening song streak. Those videos do a great job disguising that second hand news and say you love me were played first.

I know it hasn't always been their opener, but I think they would want to use it this time as an acknowledgment of the fact that the 5 are reunited. It would be more of a message than in previous tours. It's really nice on The Dance dvd.

Michele

SteveMacD

12-16-2013, 12:16 AM

I know it hasn't always been their opener, but I think they would want to use it this time as an acknowledgment of the fact that the 5 are reunited. It would be more of a message than in previous tours. It's really nice on The Dance dvd.
Gotta disagree. If their songbird is back, then they almost have to open with "Say You Love Me," then do "The Chain." I know...That's SO 1987.

michelej1

12-16-2013, 02:12 PM

chiliD

12-16-2013, 02:30 PM

Gotta disagree. If their songbird is back, then they almost have to open with "Say You Love Me," then do "The Chain." I know...That's SO 1987.

Unless they're going to do SYLM like they did in 1987. Then, I don't think they would start all 5 onstage like that.

Michele

They could REALLY mess with our heads with this opening 7-pack:

Get Like You Used To Be
Station Man
Dreams
Believe Me
Rhiannon
Oh Well
Why
(then on to more familiar territory)
Big Love
Landslide
Never Going Back Again
Say You Love Me
I'm So Afraid
Gypsy
You Make Loving Fun
Tusk
World Turning
Blue Letter

(encore #1)
Don't Stop
Go Your Own Way

(encore #2)
Silver Springs
Hypnotized
Songbird

SteveMacD

12-16-2013, 06:15 PM

Unless they're going to do SYLM like they did in 1997. Then, I don't think they would start all 5 onstage like that.
I hope they don't. "The Dance" was great for what it was, but I think they need to do the regular SYLM. In fact, I think they need to get as far away from "The Dance" as possible.

jbrownsjr

12-16-2013, 06:46 PM

I hope they don't. "The Dance" was great for what it was, but I think they need to do the regular SYLM. In fact, I think they need to get as far away from "The Dance" as possible.

Agreed. no more banjo version also..........
Drop Big Love, and do Tango In the Night title track
Drop Stand Back and do Straight Back
Drop Over My Head and do Over and Over.

michelej1

12-16-2013, 07:09 PM

Drop Over My Head and do Over and Over.

Let's not get crazy. Michele

chiliD

12-16-2013, 07:58 PM

Ok....after doing more pondering, not that they'd EVER do this in a million years, but what if Fleetwood Mac was Fleetwood Mac's own opening act?

Just right out of the gate...

Get Like You Used To Be
Station Man
Believe Me
I'm So Afraid
Sentimental Lady
Rhiannon
Oh Well
Landslide
Why
Don't Let Me Down Again
Hypnotized

(15 minute intermission)

Say You Love Me
The Chain
Dreams
Steal Your Heart Away
Everywhere
Gypsy
Sad Angel
You Make Loving Fun
Save Me A Place
Sisters Of The Moon
Isn't It Midnight
Eyes Of The World
Hold Me
Big Love (Tango style)
Gold Dust Woman
Tusk
Little Lies
World Turning
Go Your Own Way

(encore #1)
Secon Hand News
Don't Stop

(encore #2)
Stand Back
Songbird

elle

12-16-2013, 08:05 PM

Ok....after doing more pondering, not that they'd EVER do this in a million years, but what if Fleetwood Mac was Fleetwood Mac's own opening act?

kinda like Lindsey was doing on SWS tour, when he solo was opening act to himself with the band. i think he actually even described it as opening for himself. :laugh:

but chili - Stand Back?? i know SN will probably never let it leave the set but why would you want it?

I'msoAfraid95

12-16-2013, 09:29 PM

First, I'd want just FM songs only. No solo.

Must Do: (they can not get away without doing these)
The Chain
SYLM
Rhiannon
Don't Stop
YMLF
Tusk(with Christine playing accordion)
Dreams
Landslide
GYOW
World Turning
Songbird

My wishful thinking set list of 25 songs:
The Chain
World Turning
Little Lies
Gold Dust Woman
I'm so Afraid( my username song has to be in there!)
GYOW
Peacekeeper
SYLM
Gypsy
Second Hand News
NGBA
Oh Daddy
Don't Stop
Dreams
Everywhere
Hold Me
Tusk
Sad Angel
Monday Morning
Over My Head
Not That Funny( I'm really wishing here)
Songbird
Seven Wonders

*2 new songs as an encore ( I think that's 25)

SteveMacD

12-16-2013, 09:46 PM

Must Do: (they can not get away without doing these)
Songbird
I could see them doing "Never Forget" instead.

jbrownsjr

12-16-2013, 09:54 PM

Let's not get crazy. Michele

A man can dream!

jbrownsjr

12-16-2013, 09:57 PM

We'd get to hear SYW tunes with Christine.

elle

12-16-2013, 10:34 PM

We'd get to hear SYW tunes with Christine.

yeah. dream on. would be interesting to hear btlh with her. and, lindsey almost never performs syha so that would be refreshing.

jbrownsjr

12-16-2013, 10:38 PM

yeah. dream on. would be interesting to hear btlh with her. and, lindsey almost never performs syha so that would be refreshing.

We saw BTLH on the dance.

elle

12-16-2013, 10:42 PM

We saw BTLH on the dance.

true, forgot about that. guess my becoming a fan after syw is showing through. and always hearing btlh solo.

jbrownsjr

12-16-2013, 10:45 PM

true, forgot about that. guess my becoming a fan after syw is showing through. and always hearing btlh solo.

I'd love to hear some of the other tunes with Christine's vocals.

elle

12-16-2013, 10:54 PM

I'd love to hear some of the other tunes with Christine's vocals.
i'd love to hear more SYW songs period.

i've only heard live BTLH and Come. both were spectacular.

i'd like to hear Destiny Rules, Murrow (which was the standout song on Lindsey's Soundstage, imo, but i have no clue what CM may add to it)... audiences have been calling for Peacekeeper, that may be different with Christine added. FM did Red Rover live, right? was that any different than solo version?

my favorite SYW song is Love Minus Zero cover. but i didn't necessarily love live versions i've heard.

so what would you like the hear from SYW with Christine? (please don't say Thrown Down).

michelej1

12-17-2013, 02:10 PM

so what would you like the hear from SYW with Christine? (please don't say Thrown Down).

Thrown Down, without a doubt. EFO and Miranda.

Michele

jbrownsjr

12-17-2013, 02:48 PM

so what would you like the hear from SYW with Christine? (please don't say Thrown Down).

We are like Christine and Stevie, Elle. We get on well because we are so unalike. :)

I'd love to hear Thrown Down, Come, and Everybody Finds out. :cool:

chiliD

12-17-2013, 03:14 PM

but chili - Stand Back?? i know SN will probably never let it leave the set but why would you want it?

CONFESSION: I never really liked the song all that much until I heard them do it during the 1987 tour. I've liked Fleetwood Mac's live versions of it ever since (they give it that intangible "something extra" that Stevie's solo band doesn't...maybe it's that Fleetwood Mac's versions are more guitar oriented than keyboard oriented.). The song really kicks...it's the one Stevie Nicks song that really rocks (now that "Rhiannon" has been mellowed down to blah-ness). Pretty similar to Christine's "Isn't It Midnight" being her big rocker tune. (even "You Make Loving Fun" pales in comparison)

michelej1

12-17-2013, 03:50 PM

The song really kicks...it's the one Stevie Nicks song that really rocks (now that "Rhiannon" has been mellowed down to blah-ness). Pretty similar to Christine's "Isn't It Midnight" being her big rocker tune. (even "You Make Loving Fun" pales in comparison)

This is a good argument for Isn't It Midnight. I hope that song isn't completely off of Lindsey's radar and that Christine and Stevie liked it well enough when they did it in concert to remind him about it.

Michele

bobwelchera

12-17-2013, 03:51 PM

I was making one last year - known as the "Pipe Dream Setlist" since Christine was so adamant about leaving the business. :-D

After some consideration, I think this would be amazing. Also, this is my first idea...I'll probably hash out others soon.

Opening
You Make Lovin' Fun - This would include the alternate version/Rosebud film arrangement
Big Love - FM would flow into this via a short solo from Mick
Dreams
("Welcome back, Christine!")
Spare Me a Little of Your Love

Tusk Suite
Think About Me
Save Me A Place - FM comes to the front a la The Dance
Sara

The Later Years
Peacekeeper
Friend
Say You Will
Bleed To Love Her - With traditional Lindsey speech

Lindsey at the Helm
Go Insane (Acoustic) - With traditional Lindsey speech
Landslide
Never Going Back Again

White Album/Rumours
Oh Daddy/I'm So Afraid - This would be a super sweet merge. The keys may need to be altered, but their tempos are too similar not to make this happen
Rhiannon
World Turning
Go Your Own Way

Encore
Gypsy
Don't Stop
The Chain

2nd Encore
Songbird

Macfanforever

12-17-2013, 05:36 PM

I got to hear 'Hold Me" live.

HelloMonster

12-17-2013, 06:30 PM

so what would you like the hear from SYW with Christine? (please don't say Thrown Down).

EFO, Murrow (I agree about soundstage. That energy!) and SYHA would be nice. (And Thrown Down, sorry Elle :lol:)

ETA: Hell yes to Isn't It Midnight! Brown Eyes too. I'm torn between Never Forget and Over and Over though.

SpyNote

12-17-2013, 06:40 PM

A man can dream!

Not here! :lol:

elle

12-17-2013, 07:11 PM

We are like Christine and Stevie, Elle. We get on well because we are so unalike. :)

:lol: as long as i can be Christine (definitely much more like her, whether you are talking looks or character) ;)

KarmaContestant

12-17-2013, 07:35 PM

elle

12-17-2013, 08:13 PM

Talking total fantasy here, but how great would it be if Fleetwood Mac went on the road and performed Mirage and Tango In The Night in their entirety?! They could be done in order or mixed up randomly each night. Of course, some would groan (rightfully so in some respects) about When I See You Again or Welcome To The Room...Sara or Wish You Were Here or Oh Diane - but it would be so worth it for all the rest. Love In Store as the opener, and You And I, Part II closing the show.

I think it would be amazing.

Dreams, Tusk, Go Your Own Way and Say You Love Me for encores?

see, if i could choose, i'd much rather listen to the Tusk and SYW in entirety, than Mirage and Tango.

although it might be interesting to hear live songs we've never had the opportunity to, especially not with Rumours 5.

Rumours and white album in entirety would definitely be at the very bottom of my list (of course, not that we don't hear Rumours practically in entirety all the time anyway ;) ).

vivfox

12-17-2013, 09:37 PM

see, if i could choose, i'd much rather listen to the Tusk and SYW in entirety, than Mirage and Tango.

It would be unfair to Christine if they played SYW in its entirety.

michelej1

12-17-2013, 10:00 PM

It would be unfair to Christine if they played SYW in its entirety.

It would also be unfair to me. Michele

elle

12-17-2013, 10:41 PM

It would be unfair to Christine if they played SYW in its entirety.

well, yeah - that ship has sailed. not that it ever had a chance.

how many songs of SYW did they perform live at one point or another? by my count it's at least 13 (so not bad actually, granted some were performed just by LB solo):

"What's the World Coming To?"
"Murrow Turning Over in His Grave"
"Red Rover"
"Say You Will"
"Peacekeeper"
"Come"
"Running Through the Garden"
"Steal Your Heart Away"
"Bleed to Love Her"
"Destiny Rules"
"Say Goodbye"
"Goodbye Baby"
"Love Minus Zero/No Limit"

michelej1

12-17-2013, 10:52 PM

how many songs of SYW did they perform live at one point or another? by my count it's at least 13

I know it doesn't count, but about 3 seconds of Miranda, before Lindsey decided he didn't know how to play it.

Michele

elle

12-17-2013, 10:53 PM

so what would you like the hear from SYW with Christine? (please don't say Thrown Down).

Thrown Down, without a doubt. EFO and Miranda.

I'd love to hear Thrown Down, Come, and Everybody Finds out. :cool:

EFO, Murrow (I agree about soundstage. That energy!) and SYHA would be nice. (And Thrown Down, sorry Elle :lol:)

so we have votes to hear following SYW songs live with Christine added to the mix and see what would happen:

Thrown Down ( :p )
Come
Everybody Finds Out
Murrow
Steal Your Heart Away

Macfanforever

12-17-2013, 10:54 PM

Since Stevie has her solo tune Standback in the FM setlist.I think Christine should surprise us with her solo tunes.

elle

12-17-2013, 10:55 PM

I know it doesn't count, but about 3 seconds of Miranda, before Lindsey decided he didn't know how to play it.

Michele

oh, tell me more... when did that happen?

jbrownsjr

12-17-2013, 11:45 PM

It would be unfair to Christine if they played SYW in its entirety.

It would be unfair for those of us that had to listen to it. :lol:

michelej1

12-18-2013, 12:55 AM

oh, tell me more... when did that happen?

His Soundstage.

Michele

michelej1

12-18-2013, 12:56 AM

It would be unfair for those of us that had to listen to it. :lol:

Like hearing WTWCT for a whole tour wasn't torture enough already.

Michele

elle

12-18-2013, 10:00 AM

Like hearing WTWCT for a whole tour wasn't torture enough already.

Michele

Hearing wtwct anywhere or anytime is torture.

elle

12-18-2013, 10:02 AM

It would be unfair for those of us that had to listen to it. :lol:

Well I always said I need a private lb gig. That way I can hear anything I want to and the rest of you don't have to listen to it. :p

jbrownsjr

12-18-2013, 10:41 AM

Hearing wtwct anywhere or anytime is torture.

We agree!!

SpyNote

12-18-2013, 01:07 PM

I got to hear 'Hold Me" live.

I thought it was a great addition to the set. It's strange that they thought it didn't worked well onstage. I suppose it did sound different from the studio recording.

bobwelchera

12-18-2013, 01:13 PM

There is some serious hating on "What's The World Coming To." This isn't Lindsey's worst FM song by any means ("Empire State.") Nevertheless, I don't think it would be chosen as one of the three/four SYW tracks ("Bleed To Love Her" being a technicality.)

jbrownsjr

12-18-2013, 01:16 PM

bobwelchera

12-18-2013, 01:35 PM

jbrownsjr

12-18-2013, 01:42 PM

I disagree, good sir! The tempo is appropriate, opens with Mick on the drums, and has the the old GOYW-like build-up with the guitar and Lindsey's vocals. "Say You Will" and "Peacekeeper" would be potential alternatives, but you have to account for what taking one of the others means to the rest of the running order.

I can't stand the melody and the vocals. It's just an awful song in my opinion.

I'd rather have a tune like Big Love, Love In Store, or even Monday Morning "like", open an album. Bury that one around track 7.

bobwelchera

12-18-2013, 02:50 PM

I can't stand the melody and the vocals. It's just an awful song in my opinion.

I'd rather have a tune like Big Love, Love In Store, or even Monday Morning "like", open an album. Bury that one around track 7.

Among the four:
1. Monday Morning
2. Big Love
3. What's The World Coming To
4. Love In Store

We obviously will agree to disagree. If you go back to yesterday around this time, I post my own idea for a reunion setlist, and it doesn't include the song in question.

jbrownsjr

12-18-2013, 03:13 PM

Among the four:
1. Monday Morning
2. Big Love
3. What's The World Coming To
4. Love In Store

We obviously will agree to disagree. If you go back to yesterday around this time, I post my own idea for a reunion setlist, and it doesn't include the song in question.

I'm like your pecking order. With the exception of #3. ;)

bobwelchera

12-18-2013, 04:14 PM

I'm like your pecking order. With the exception of #3. ;)

Hahaha. ;-)

michelej1

12-19-2013, 12:27 AM

I can't stand the melody and the vocals. It's just an awful song in my opinion.

The vocals for WTWCT were not good during the SYW tour.

Michele

jbrownsjr

12-19-2013, 01:58 AM

The vocals for WTWCT were not good during the SYW tour.

Michele

I agree, Stevie's harmony kind of saves him. A little anyway..

sywlindseyfan

12-19-2013, 11:30 AM

SteveMacD

12-19-2013, 11:49 AM

OK, can you imagine how amazing this is going to be!!?!?!

OMG!
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Chris' Sngs are going to bring so much more out of Stevie (and Lindsey) than we have seen in YEARS!!! Like Stevie's little backwards and forwards motions between Chris' vocals (Watch at 3:50), plus their harmony as well! So excited over here!
I'd be even more excited if they didn't have the mini-Mac. I could see keeping Brett for additional guitars and additional keyboards, but not on every song. Acoustic guitar on GYOW, SOTM (if it's in the set), Gypsy, ISA, and SYLM; synth on Don't Stop and Tusk.

sywlindseyfan

12-19-2013, 12:33 PM

I'd be even more excited if they didn't have the mini-Mac. I could see keeping Brett for additional guitars and additional keyboards, but not on every song. Acoustic guitar on GYOW, SOTM (if it's in the set), Gypsy, ISA, and SYLM; synth on Don't Stop and Tusk.

SteveMacD, your pic of Chris, Mick, and John is amazing.

jbrownsjr

12-19-2013, 12:53 PM

SteveMacD

12-19-2013, 04:30 PM

SteveMacD, your pic of Chris, Mick, and John is amazing.
It's from the "Time" booklet.

AliceLover

12-21-2013, 08:45 AM

Say You Love Me
The Chain
Dreams
Isn't it Midnight
Bleed to Love Her
Rhiannon
Over and Over
Love Shines
Tusk
Gypsy
Big Love
Red Rover
Landslide
Storms
You Make Loving Fun
Little Lies
Book of Love
Everywhere
I Don't Wanna Know
Stand Back
Go Your Own Way
Sisters
Blue Letter
Don't Stop
Silver Springs

elle

12-21-2013, 12:20 PM

SteveMacD

12-22-2013, 11:59 PM

It'll never happen in a million years, but...

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SteveMacD

01-13-2014, 09:33 PM

Since it's official, bump.

elle

01-13-2014, 09:36 PM

Since it's official, bump.

i gave you all the setlist somewhere upfront. and that was optimistic estimate. :lol:

Macfanforever

01-13-2014, 09:51 PM

Just play the 1977 tour setlist .I be happy.

I want to hear Christine classics.

jbrownsjr

01-13-2014, 10:29 PM

If there is a new album. I suppose they will play at least 3-4 tunes from it.

Mirage: Eyes, Gypsy, Hold Me, Love In Store
Tango: Little Lies, Isn't It Midnight, Seven Wonders Everywhere
Dance: Sweet Girl, Bleed, Demon

mottabam

01-13-2014, 10:54 PM

I'm probably in the minority on this but I think they could actually shorten the set by 10-15 minutes and still keep everyone satisfied. 2 hours 35 min+- is a long time for any band never mind musicians pushing 70. I guess it all depends on how many shows they actually do and how many songs each will perform etc etc.

Anyways, not sure of what the set should or could be but I'd love to hear the following songs from Chris:

Think About Me.
Little Lies
Isn't it Midnight
Over My Head
You Make Lovin Fun

Some songs I could do without on this trek: (unlikely though)

I'm so afraid
Stand Back
World Turning

Must haves for ME:

The Chain
GYOW
Rhiannon

Any additions from Mirage or Tango will be great, and of course a few "new" songs.:)

jbrownsjr

01-13-2014, 11:12 PM

Think About Me would be great!

KenshiMaster16

01-13-2014, 11:31 PM

I think it's probably going to be the following;

Say You Love Me
The Chain
Dreams
Eyes Of The World
Everywhere
Rhiannon
Second Hand News
Hold Me
Tusk
Sara
Big Love
Landslide
Never Going Back Again
You Make Loving Fun
Gypsy
Oh Daddy
Gold Dust Woman
Little Lies
I'm So Afraid
Stand Back
Go Your Own Way
World Turning
Don't Stop
Silver Springs
Songbird

Kubrick2788

01-14-2014, 12:52 AM

Someone on the previous page had Storms in their speculative setlist. I think it'd be fantastic with Christine's voice in there. By the end of the Unleashed tour it had really picked up a bit and become less of a slow mover. I would listen to any live version really, but that's partly b/c I missed the 2009 show I had tickets for (still a little angry at the RTA over that mess) and partly b/c I think it's as good as anything SN has written for FM.

Etisl

01-14-2014, 01:23 AM

I think your set list is probably about right. Even with Chris, I think they still might play it safe. With her returning though, I can see them opening, again, with Say You Love Me. They know the fans will live them kicking off the show with a Christine song...... I know I would like it.

I think it's probably going to be the following;

Say You Love Me
The Chain
Dreams
Eyes Of The World
Everywhere
Rhiannon
Second Hand News
Hold Me
Tusk
Sara
Big Love
Landslide
Never Going Back Again
You Make Loving Fun
Gypsy
Oh Daddy
Gold Dust Woman
Little Lies
I'm So Afraid
Stand Back
Go Your Own Way
World Turning
Don't Stop
Silver Springs
Songbird

pattyfan

01-14-2014, 01:30 AM

I would love it if they included a surprise Christine song, like one of her pre Lindsey and Stevie songs (Why, maybe, or Just Crazy Love), or maybe something (anything :) ) from Tusk. I would even settle for Love In Store, which wouldn't be such a surprise anyway. But I will definitely not be disappointed no matter what. I honestly never thought I'd hear her sing live again. :) :)

Kevin

SteveMacD

01-14-2014, 01:39 AM

I'd really love to hear them do "Love Shines," even though that was a Billy-era song.

mottabam

01-14-2014, 06:40 AM

Hold Me would be FANTASTIC.

MoonSister75

01-14-2014, 08:52 AM

Hold Me would be FANTASTIC.

It would it would!! I'd love to hear it live!

Kubrick2788

01-14-2014, 08:52 AM

The Chain
Say You Love Me
Dreams
The Ledge/What Makes You Think You're the One
Everywhere
That's Alright/Paper Doll/Thrown Down/New Song?
Think About Me
Second Hand News
Big Love
Landslide
Never Going Back Again
Save Me A Place/New Song?
You Make Loving Fun
Rhiannon
Love In Store/Never Forget
Sara/Sisters of the Moon
I'm So Afraid
Gypsy/Angel
Never Make Me Cry/New Song?
Gold Dust Woman
Tusk
World Turning
Go Your Own Way
Don't Stop
Silver Springs
Songbird

Though, like many people have said, what are the chances we get a wide variety with the Rumours lineup. One can dream. It's hard to believe that they'd feel like they have to play the same dozen songs for sure. They're going to sell a lot of tickets based on the 5 member fact alone. Now's the time to throw some curveballs.

juniper

01-14-2014, 09:18 AM

Think About Me would be great!

Yes yes yes - such great vocals/harmonies on this one!

jbrownsjr

01-14-2014, 09:38 AM

Assuming no new tunes.

1. Fireflies
2. Say You Love Me
3. The Chain
4. I'm So Afraid
5. You Make Lovin Fun
6. Dreams
7. Eyes of the World
8. Big Love (LB solo)
9. Landslide (LB/SN/CM)
10. Isn't It Midnight
11. Tango In The Night
12. Gold Dust Woman
13. Seven Wonders
14. Think About Me
15. Beautiful Child (Christine/Stevie)
16. Never Going Back Again (LB solo)
17. Mystified
18. Rhiannon
19. Love In Store
20. Blue Letter
21. World Turning
22. Tusk
23. Don't Stop

E1. Go Your Own Way
E2. Sisters of the Moon
E3. Say Goodbye
E4. Songbird

Madness Fades

01-14-2014, 10:27 AM

okay here goes: in no particular order CAN YOU READ THIS FLEETWOOD, THIS IS A SETLIST.
Angel
Green Manalashi three pronged crown
Walk a Thin Line
Book Of Love
Rooms on Fire
I Dont Wanna Know
You Make Loving Fun
Songbird
Seven Wonders
Little Lies
Temporary One
Go Your Own way
What Makes You Think Youre the one
Crystal
Twisted
Over & Over
Tango in The Night
Sad Angel
Say You Will
Sisters of The Moon
Storms
The Chain
Need Your Love So Bad / Oh Well
Dont Stop
Blue Letter
Come.
Goodbye Baby

However they will just do the usual 18 Songs they always do and fire 5-6 christine songs back in.
they wont go to the bother of relearning the back catalogue again.
cant wait for: Go Insane, Dreams, Big Love, Gold Dust Woman, Never going back again, Landslide RETIRE THEM!! RETIRE THEM !RETIRE THEM.!!

GavinBrown

01-14-2014, 01:20 PM

The Chain (to open)
-------------------------
Stevie songs:
Dreams
Gold Dust Woman
Gypsy
Landslide
Sara
Rhiannon
Stand Back
Silver Springs

Christine Songs:
Everywhere
Say You Love Me
You Make Lovin Fun
Oh Daddy
Dont Stop
Songbird
Hold Me
Little Lies

Lindsey Songs:
I'm So Afraid
Big Love
Go Insane
Second Hand News
Eyes of the World
Never Going Back Again
Tusk
Go Your Own Way

BLY

01-14-2014, 01:33 PM

Say You Love Me
Rhiannon
The Chain
Dreams
You Make Loving Fun
Landslide
Never Going Back Agan
*****New Song******
Gold Dust Woman
So Afraid
*****New Song****
Think About Me
Tusk
Sara
*****New Song****
Love in Store
Eyes of the World
Gypsy
Everywhere
Big Love
Seven Wonders

****Encore****
Go Your Own Way
Don't Stop
Songbird

Nicks Fan

01-14-2014, 07:46 PM

I think your setlist is pretty accurate. They may take out Eyes for something else and Hold Me is the one I am questioning. I know Mick told me in 09 that it was almost in the set for the 09 tour but if they nixed it then and also for the 2013 tour I wonder. I really doubt anything reallyy rare will be done. There is a slim chance that Angel will be done since they have pulled out every other Stevie song from Tusk since 03 so it would be logical to pull this one out. Whatever they play I will be happy just to have her back.
I think it's probably going to be the following;

Say You Love Me
The Chain
Dreams
Eyes Of The World
Everywhere
Rhiannon
Second Hand News
Hold Me
Tusk
Sara
Big Love
Landslide
Never Going Back Again
You Make Loving Fun
Gypsy
Oh Daddy
Gold Dust Woman
Little Lies
I'm So Afraid
Stand Back
Go Your Own Way
World Turning
Don't Stop
Silver Springs
Songbird

whitewingdove

01-14-2014, 07:51 PM

I'll be happy as long as there's:
1. Little Lies
2. Everywhere
3. Say You Love Me

If they DO play Isn't It Midnight i will probably cry. That would be the greatest thing ever

Nicks Fan

01-14-2014, 07:54 PM

I think if they did Beautiful Child again but with Chris it could be magical. I just wish they would retire ISA, SB, TUSK, NGBA,BL,Rhiannon, WT and Landslide for something else. They have so much material not performed live that I think it is high time they did other stuff. I like how Tusk has gotten some love but Mirage and Tango have largely been ignored. I am sure with her back Everywhere and Little Lies will be back but what about 7 Wonders or When I See You Again. How about some stuff from Mirage like Love in Store, Can't Go Back, That's Allright. They need to revamp the show desperately.

jbrownsjr

01-14-2014, 08:03 PM

I'll be happy as long as there's:
1. Little Lies
2. Everywhere
3. Say You Love Me

If they DO play Isn't It Midnight i will probably cry. That would be the greatest thing ever

We'll cry together. And Beautiful Child (w/ just Christine and Stevie)

lovethemac1

01-14-2014, 08:09 PM

CADreaming

01-14-2014, 10:52 PM

Not being too creative here, but practical. They have been doing the "35th Anniversary" tour of Rumours.

The 2013 setlist has been:

Second Hand News
The Chain
Dreams
Sad Angel
Rhiannon
Not That Funny
Tusk
Sisters of The Moon
Sara
Big Love
Landslide
Never Going Back
WithoutYou
Gypsy
Eyes of the World
Gold Dust Woman
So Afraid
Stand Back
Go Your Own Way
World Turning
Don't Stop
Silver Springs
Say Goodbye

Two Christine songs are currently being done - let's not count "The Chain"... "World Turning" (co-write with Lindsey) and "Don't Stop".

So, comparing the songs from the first two sets with Christine, Stevie & Lindsey (songs are listed in alpha order, not place in set with Christine's songs in BOLD):

WHITE TOUR 1975-1976
Blue Letter
Don't Let Me Down Again
Frozen Love
Get Like You Used to Be
Go Your Own Way
Green Manalishi
Homework
Hypnotized
I'm So Afraid
Landslide
Oh Well
Over My Head
Rhiannon
Silver Springs
Spare Me A Little
Station Man
Why
World in Harmony
World Turning

Five Christine songs were performed: "Get Like You Used to Be", "Over My Head", "Spare Me A Little", "Why" and "World Turning" (LB co-write)

RUMOURS TOUR 1977-1978
Believe Me
Blue Letter
Don't Stop
Dreams
Go Your Own Way
Gold Dust Woman
I'm So Afraid
Landslide
Monday Morning
Never Going Back
Oh Daddy
Oh Well
Over My Head
Rhiannon
Say You Love Me
Second Hand News
Songbird
Station Man
Tell Me All The Things You Do
The Chain
Why
World Turning
You Make Loving Fun

Nine Christine songs were performed: "Believe Me", "Don't Stop", "Oh Daddy", "Over My Head", "Say You Love Me", "Songbird", "Why", "World Turning" (LB co-write), and "You Make Loving Fun".

And, the last time Christine toured the set was like this - in performance order:

THE DANCE TOUR 1997
The Chain
Dreams
Everywhere
Gold Dust Woman
I'm So Afraid
Temporary One
Bleed To Love Her
Gypsy
Big Love
Go Insane
Landslide
Say You Love Me
Sweet Girl
You Make Loving Fun
My Little Demon
Stand Back
Oh Daddy
Not That Funny
Rhiannon
Second Hand News
Silver Springs
Tusk
Go Your Own Way
Don't Stop
Songbird
Farmer's Daughter

Seven Christine songs were performed: "Don't Stop", "Everywhere", "Oh Daddy", "Say You Love Me", "Songbird", "Temporary One", and "You Make Loving Fun".

2014 Set Prediction:

Say You Love Me
The Chain
Second Hand News
Dreams
Over My Head
Rhiannon
Not That Funny
Tusk
Sisters of The Moon
Oh Daddy
Sara
Big Love
Landslide
Never Going Back
Gypsy
Eyes of the World
Gold Dust Woman
You Make Loving Fun
I'm So Afraid
Stand Back
Go Your Own Way
World Turning
Don't Stop
Silver Springs
Songbird

I think they will drop "Without You", "Sad Angel", "Say Goodbye". I think "Sisters of the Moon" may go and/or "Eyes of the World" with the possible addition of one or two new songs, contingent on new material, since "Sad Angel" and "Without You" were new songs. Also, I think it's possible they may try to end with "Farmer's Daughter" although, I think it's more appropriate to let Christine close.

Personally, I hope they will go way back and surprise us with "Why", one of my favorites and also a perfect example of how the Buckingham Nicks & McVie harmonies came alive. Another great throwback - if Christine did "Get Like You Used to Be". I don't hold out hope for either of those, but for the sake of all things nostalgic it would be really cool.

secondhandchain

01-14-2014, 11:09 PM

I would love to see Straight Back with Christines backround vocals. This will never happend as Stevie could never hit those notes. Unless they lower the key? I'd like Little Lies and Why be included.

ryan4136

01-15-2014, 11:22 AM

This all really depends on if we think there will be 2 tours coming or just 1.

Are we getting

Shorter tour
Album
Longer tour (possibly billed as a farewell tour)

Or are we getting

1 Big Tour
and 1 Album

If it's 1 Tour, 1 Album, we have to add a few new songs to the mix.

If it's 2 tours, the first tour likely will be a Greatest Hits type of affair, with the next tour being the one with 3-6 new songs mixed in.

jmn3

01-15-2014, 01:17 PM

I don't think the set will ever be too drastically changed. This band doesn't really ever do this - I think we will see a mix of the 1997-2013 tours. A lot of old favorites, the warhorses, and a small handful of surprises.

Here's my take...no solo songs, 26 songs (same as 97), did not put any placeholders for new songs, and nothing from SYW (I just don't see them doing any SYW songs...maybe BTLH or SYHA, maybe...)

Tango in the Night
Say You Love Me
Monday Morning
Dreams
Spare Me A Little
Seven Wonders
Everywhere
Second Hand News
Angel
Hold Me
Rhiannon
Songbird
Big Love
Landslide
Walk a Thin Line
Little Lies
Gold Dust Woman
Tusk
Sisters of the Moon
I'm So Afraid
You Make Loving Fun
Silver Springs
Go Your Own Way
The Chain (encore)
Don't Stop (encore)
The Farmer's Daughter (encore)

Macfanforever

01-15-2014, 01:28 PM

Great selections guys.

I see a 3 hour shows now with Chris present with the selections mentioned here already.Start time should be at 7:30 pm local time so they hit the stage by 8pm and dont worry about the 11pm curfew BS stopping the show.

Thank goodness they they not been having opening acts eating up the stage time anymore.

Also it would be nice to throw in a medley of the older FM tunes in the setlist to make the older fans happy.

SpyNote

01-15-2014, 08:03 PM

It was fun to read this thread, seeing everyone's dream set lists. :)

Sadly, I think Elle is right. There will not be much change to the existing set list, except for the obvious addition of Christine's songs. If they do indeed release an album before the tour, they might add one of Christine's new songs. But I doubt that they are going to rehearsal many new songs.

I think the final set will look something like this:

1. Second Hand News
2. Say You Love Me
3. The Chain
4. Dreams
5. Everywhere (or new Christine song)
6. Sad Angel
7. Rhiannon
8. Not That Funny
9. Think About Me (Christine song from Tusk)
10. Sara
11. Big Love
12. Landslide
13. Never Going Back Again
14. Without You
15. Over My Head
16. Gypsy
17. Eyes of the World
18. You Make Loving Fun
19. Gold Dust Woman
20. I'm So Afraid
21. Stand Back
22. Go Your Own Way
23. World Turning (Christine back on lead)
24. Don't Stop (Christine back on lead)
25. Silver Springs
26. Songbird

michelej1

01-15-2014, 09:42 PM

BlueDenimLamp

01-15-2014, 10:14 PM

I know FM would never do this and I know I should decry the commercialism of the very idea, but I have to admit that I would get a kick out of it if they did Everywhere with the video of the moonwalking pony in the back.

I don't think they'd have to pay money to use that clip, because it's just free publicity. And I don't think they'd show the whole commercial, just a snippet of the backwards dancing. I should be ashamed, but it would TICKLE me.

Michele

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Why not go one step further and get Budweiser to sponsor the tour then they could show the Landslide / baby Clydesdale clip...There wouldn't be a dry eye in the venue...

michelej1

01-15-2014, 10:44 PM

Why not go one step further and get Budweiser to sponsor the tour then they could show the Landslide / baby Clydesdale clip...There wouldn't be a dry eye in the venue...

With Landslide, the audience already brings their own emotion to the song. It's kind of sentimental to them even before they ever set foot in the venue and has been for a lifetime. They're already crying by "I'm getting older, too."

Michele

MacShadowsBall

01-27-2014, 09:29 PM

I've been thinking about what songs would the fab 5 tour have. Here's what I've come up with, somewhat predictable, but having a hard time with Christine's.

Stevie
1. Rhiannon
2. Landslide
3. Dreams
4. Gold Dust Woman
5. Silver Springs
6. Sara
7. Gypsy

Lindsey
1. I'm So Afraid
2. Go Your Own Way
3. Second Hand News
4. Never Going Back Again
5. Tusk
6. Eyes of the World
7. Big Love

Christine
1. Say You Love Me
2. Over My Head
3. Don't Stop
4. Songbird
5. You Make Loving Fun
6. Oh Daddy
7. Think About Me
8. Brown Eyes
9. Over and Over
10. Hold Me
11. Love in Store
12. Everywhere
13. Little Lies
14. Isn't It Midnight

Throw in World Turning and The Chain and possibly Stand Back. Obviously Christine won't be doing 14 songs :(.

What songs of her's were done on the '97 tour?

:cool:

Ulpian

01-28-2014, 12:30 PM

Christine
1. Say You Love Me
2. Over My Head
3. Don't Stop
4. Songbird
5. You Make Loving Fun
6. Oh Daddy
7. Think About Me
8. Brown Eyes
9. Over and Over
10. Hold Me
11. Love in Store
12. Everywhere
13. Little Lies
14. Isn't It Midnight

Throw in World Turning and The Chain and possibly Stand Back. Obviously Christine won't be doing 14 songs :(.

What songs of her's were done on the '97 tour?

:cool:

She did Everywhere, Temporary One, Oh Daddy, Say You Love Me, You Make Loving Fun, Don't Stop and Songbird.

On the DVD, obviously, Over My Head was played instead of Oh Daddy.

michelej1

01-28-2014, 02:50 PM

On the DVD, obviously, Over My Head was played instead of Oh Daddy.

For which I was grateful, but nothing good lasts forever.

Michele

Kubrick2788

01-29-2014, 12:01 PM

Maybe not the ideal place for the comment, but it does involve a setlist swap. Considering the story on AHS:Coven is that Seven Wonders will be played/performed during the episode, is there any chance we see it replacing a Stevie song in the set? (I'd love it to be in place of Stand Back already.) Maybe Christine being around will make her realize she has lots of other songs...:wavey:

jbrownsjr

01-29-2014, 12:09 PM

michelej1

01-29-2014, 01:10 PM

I'd prefer to have a song written by Stevie than Seven Wonders in concert.

I mean, it's a song that casual fans recognize, but still ...

Michele

Ulpian

01-29-2014, 02:09 PM

I'd prefer to have a song written by Stevie than Seven Wonders in concert.

I mean, it's a song that casual fans recognize, but still ...

Michele

I'd rather have Calumny or Northern Star than Brown Eyes/Never Forget/Honey Hi and the former are Dan Perfect songs! :laugh:

KarmaContestant

01-29-2014, 02:28 PM

I'd prefer to have a song written by Stevie than Seven Wonders in concert.

I mean, it's a song that casual fans recognize, but still ...

Michele

I totally understand the sentiment, but I'd rather have Seven Wonders than many of the songs Stevie chooses to sing instead.

jbrownsjr

01-29-2014, 02:55 PM

I'd rather have Calumny or Northern Star than Brown Eyes/Never Forget/Honey Hi and the former are Dan Perfect songs! :laugh:

Yes!!! :blob2:

jbrownsjr

01-29-2014, 02:56 PM

I totally understand the sentiment, but I'd rather have Seven Wonders than many of the songs Stevie chooses to sing instead.

I'd even take Seven Wonders over Landslide. Let's mix it up.

KarmaContestant

01-29-2014, 03:10 PM

I'd even take Seven Wonders over Landslide. Let's mix it up.

Exactly! I really hope that for this tour, Fleetwood Mac might rotate songs from night-to-night.

Have they ever done this?

Ulpian

01-29-2014, 03:25 PM

Exactly! I really hope that for this tour, Fleetwood Mac might rotate songs from night-to-night.

Have they ever done this?

Not rotating intentionally, I don't think. Certainly not the Rumours lineup. They're control freaks.

They've chopped and changed through a tour, dropping things and occasionally bringing a new song in on a second leg.

michelej1

01-29-2014, 09:14 PM

I totally understand the sentiment, but I'd rather have Seven Wonders than many of the songs Stevie chooses to sing instead.

But then she should choose different songs of hers. She's written lots of songs that are better than Seven Wonders.

Michele

Kubrick2788

01-29-2014, 11:18 PM

Like Paper Doll...

SteveMacD

01-29-2014, 11:43 PM

I just want them to ditch Stand Back.

jbrownsjr

01-30-2014, 12:08 AM

I totally understand the sentiment, but I'd rather have Seven Wonders than many of the songs Stevie chooses to sing instead.

Seven Wonders is a great choice. It has beautiful harmonies on the chorus.

jbrownsjr

01-30-2014, 12:10 AM

I just want them to ditch Stand Back.

And Landslide!

SteveMacD

01-30-2014, 12:24 AM

And Landslide!
I agree, but there's really no way that's going to happen.

jbrownsjr

01-30-2014, 03:32 AM

I agree, but there's really no way that's going to happen.

That's what you said you about Chris coming back. ;)

michelej1

01-30-2014, 02:26 PM

It was actually easier to take Landslide out in the old days, when the song was younger than it is now. Today it's an anthem.

Michele

SteveMacD

02-02-2014, 01:59 AM

secret love

02-02-2014, 02:24 AM

Basically, there are fourteen songs they HAVE to do (see below), which means they could still give us twelve "obscure" tracks.

Say You Love Me
The Chain
Dreams
Everywhere (done every tour with Christine since its release)
Rhiannon
I’m So Afraid
Gold Dust Woman
Big Love
Landslide
Tusk
You Make Loving Fun
Go Your Own Way
Don’t Stop
Songbird

Would be great if the band varied the setlist sometimes throughout the 2014 tour. They could keep these 14 songs as their core songs in every set. (Though I'm a tad tired of I'm So Afraid and think Dreams has lost its lustre now that the key has been changed - sometimes Stevie's vocal has an overly nasal twang too) Then just vary the other 12 songs every two weeks, for example. If every two weeks is too much, then maybe once a month, or even just a different 12 extra songs for each leg of the tour (USA/Canada, UK/Europe, Australia/NZ) added to the core 14 tunes.

gldstwmn

02-03-2014, 01:51 PM

https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1/1557470_692053600816217_1750640664_n.jpg

Taken in the last day or so according to Twitter...

Ulpian

02-03-2014, 02:11 PM

^ Ooh. Does anyone want to venture a guess as to where they are?

jbrownsjr

02-03-2014, 02:43 PM

https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1/1557470_692053600816217_1750640664_n.jpg

Taken in the last day or so according to Twitter...

I read somewhere it was Hawaii and Johnny Depp took the photo. :shrug:

sywlindseyfan

02-03-2014, 02:50 PM

This is so amazing and crazy! Absolutely unbelievable. We are one month away from the recording in March!!!!!!

Ulpian

02-03-2014, 03:20 PM

I love Christine!:blob2::blob2::blob1:

MoonSister75

02-04-2014, 08:55 AM

https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1/1557470_692053600816217_1750640664_n.jpg

Taken in the last day or so according to Twitter...

I love Christine!:blob2::blob2::blob1:

Yep, she's incredible. I think she can feel the love :D:nod:

ironman_01701

02-04-2014, 09:06 AM

https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1/1557470_692053600816217_1750640664_n.jpg

Taken in the last day or so according to Twitter...

I remember seeing the inside of Mick's house in Maui with the same floor, color walls and the same type of sky-lights. Flowers blooming are a dead give-a-way as shown through the window; not 100% sure, but looks like it to me. Also, not sure this was a 2014 photo, it could have been photo shot back in January 2013 when she flew over to Maui to sing with Tyler and dine at the Fleetwoods.

macfan 57

02-04-2014, 10:45 AM

Also, not sure this was a 2014 photo, it could have been photo shot back in January 2013 when she flew over to Maui to sing with Tyler and dine at the Fleetwoods.

That's what I think. Her hair style in this picture is exactly the same as a year ago in Hawaii. She also looks to be wearing the same blouse in the new photo as this old photo from last year.

vivfox

02-04-2014, 12:02 PM

She also looks to be wearing the same blouse in the new photo as this old photo from last year.

Well you know our Fleetwood's only own one outfit.:laugh:

But I totally agree that this pic was taken last February(2013) when Chris was in Maui to visit Mick and to perform with Steven Tyler and the others.

goldustsongbird

02-04-2014, 12:15 PM

https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1/1557470_692053600816217_1750640664_n.jpg

Taken in the last day or so according to Twitter...

Whether it's from a year ago or a day, I love it.

SteveMacD

02-04-2014, 02:26 PM

That's what I think. Her hair style in this picture is exactly the same as a year ago in Hawaii. She also looks to be wearing the same blouse in the new photo as this old photo from last year.

Same is true of Steven Tyler.

ironman_01701

02-04-2014, 03:36 PM

London Sept 2013 Chis fix:
http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/s379/ironman_01701/Christine%20McVie%20London%202013/Londonab_zps3cff628d.jpg

bombaysaffires

02-04-2014, 04:43 PM

London Sept 2013 Chis fix:
http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/s379/ironman_01701/Christine%20McVie%20London%202013/Londonab_zps3cff628d.jpg

ugh, that g**damned clip in her hair! oy.

michelej1

02-04-2014, 04:56 PM

London Sept 2013 Chis fix:
http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/s379/ironman_01701/Christine%20McVie%20London%202013/Londonab_zps3cff628d.jpg

I don't think I've seen the third one with the red flower print before.

Michele

Ulpian

02-04-2014, 05:25 PM

I don't think I've seen the third one with the red flower print before.

Michele

It was taken at Jenny Boyd's book launch last year.

michelej1

02-04-2014, 05:27 PM

It was taken at Jenny Boyd's book launch last year.

Oh ok, thanks. Yes, I did see those pictures. I forgot.

Michele

Ulpian

02-04-2014, 05:51 PM

Oh ok, thanks. Yes, I did see those pictures. I forgot.

Michele

Who would have thought, a year ago, we'd have such an embarrassment of Christine-related riches?!

Kubrick2788

02-04-2014, 06:29 PM

Maybe she keeps the hair clip in case she gets a bag of chips and just can't finish it. Wouldn't want to lose that crunch.

jbrownsjr

02-04-2014, 07:17 PM

She went back to the, "As Long as you Follow" look.

bombaysaffires

02-05-2014, 05:37 PM

Maybe she keeps the hair clip in case she gets a bag of chips and just can't finish it. Wouldn't want to lose that crunch.

:laugh::D ..........

chiliD

02-05-2014, 07:25 PM

Ok, so how do we know that the clip is clipped to her HAIR? Maybe it's keeping her scalp together. :shrug:

At least she doesn't have an aluminum collander on her head. :laugh:

jbrownsjr

02-05-2014, 07:33 PM

Ok, so how do we know that the clip is clipped to her HAIR? Maybe it's keeping her scalp together. :shrug:

At least she doesn't have an aluminum collander on her head. :laugh:

Or wearing a meat dress.

SpyNote

02-06-2014, 02:16 AM

Like Paper Doll...

:laugh:

"Seven Wonders" would be a timely addition to the set. Clearly from its resurgence on AHS, the song has reached a new audience.

secret love

02-06-2014, 07:06 AM

I wouldn't mind Has Anyone Ever Written Anything for You in a Fleetwood Mac set - hasn't been done since Shake the Cage 1987-1988 Tour, I think. Agree that Seven Wonders would be good too. Maybe try some Stevie and Christine songs from Behind the Mask and Time, e.g. Freedom, Behind the Mask, Nights in Estoril

Ulpian

02-06-2014, 08:28 AM

:laugh:

"Seven Wonders" would be a timely addition to the set. Clearly from its resurgence on AHS, the song has reached a new audience.

I really think they need a TITN 'mini set'. So:-

Little Lies
Everywhere
Seven Wonders
Tango in the Night

I am fed up of hearing the same version of Big Love that they've done (LB has done) since '97. Time to give it a rest, and maybe also ISA in favour of the track TITN (given their link).

I know they're set in their ways and won't bother doing anything so daring, but a boy can dream....

Dex

02-06-2014, 09:57 AM

I am fed up of hearing the same version of Big Love that they've done (LB has done) since '97. Time to give it a rest, and maybe also ISA in favour of the track TITN (given their link).

:distress: Leave Big Love alone! It's a set highlight for me! I want it to stay forever.

I agree, thought, TITN would be a great choice as a deeper cut.

jbrownsjr

02-06-2014, 10:45 AM

:distress: Leave Big Love alone! It's a set highlight for me! I want it to stay forever.

I agree, thought, TITN would be a great choice as a deeper cut.

I'd love to see Big Love as a band with Christine on keys.
Think of the drums Mick could play for TITN! That would be spectacular live!

vivfox

02-06-2014, 11:09 AM

:distress: Leave Big Love alone! It's a set highlight for me! I want it to stay forever.

That version is so frikkin' boring in concert now. Soooo overplayed. Mick should interrupt in the middle of it and stand in front of Stevie's mic with an oversized bongo and pound on that for a 6 minute solo. And then Lindsey can return to the stage and pretend his hand doesn't work, shake it a few times, and finish the song. That would give me enough time to run to the bathroom and back to my seat.:D:xoxo:

elle

02-06-2014, 03:05 PM

I am fed up of hearing the same version of Big Love that they've done (LB has done) since '97. Time to give it a rest, and maybe also ISA
:distress: Leave Big Love alone! It's a set highlight for me! I want it to stay forever.
I agree, thought, TITN would be a great choice as a deeper cut.
:nod:
I'd love to see Big Love as a band with Christine on keys.
i see these posts from time to time on this fan board and they always puzzle me (btw LB first performed BL acoustic in 1993, not 1997).

why would LB drop 2 songs that he performs astonishingly well, that showcase him as an amazing guitarist he is (and his voice is pretty great one these 2 songs too!), and bring him tons of admiring new fans every time he plays them? :confused:

Big Love acoustic is a stunning and unique song, that in a way defines Lindsey as a performer. the album version is just another well done pop song. :shrug: there are many other pop songs of LB's that i would much rather hear live.

vivfox - ISA is plenty long for you to use the restroom, if you are so inclined. and if you are running late, you'll just miss SB and GYOW right behind it - 2 songs they never drop either, so why bother listening to them? :p

SteveMacD

02-06-2014, 03:18 PM

Unless YMLF is between SB and GYOW.

Ulpian

02-06-2014, 05:54 PM

:nod:

i see these posts from time to time on this fan board and they always puzzle me (btw LB first performed BL acoustic in 1993, not 1997).

why would LB drop 2 songs that he performs astonishingly well, that showcase him as an amazing guitarist he is (and his voice is pretty great one these 2 songs too!), and bring him tons of admiring new fans every time he plays them? :confused:

Big Love acoustic is a stunning and unique song, that in a way defines Lindsey as a performer. the album version is just another well done pop song. :shrug: there are many other pop songs of LB's that i would much rather hear live.

vivfox - ISA is plenty long for you to use the restroom, if you are so inclined. and if you are running late, you'll just miss SB and GYOW right behind it - 2 songs they never drop either, so why bother listening to them? :p

Why would he drop them? For a change -- for him and for us. I don't think there's anything puzzling about my suggesting it, Elle.

jbrownsjr

02-06-2014, 06:11 PM

:nod:

Big Love acoustic is a stunning and unique song, that in a way defines Lindsey as a performer. the album version is just another well done pop song. :shrug: there are many other pop songs of LB's that i would much rather hear live.

The album version is very unique to me and the quirks of this song and the video are some of the reasons I love Lindsey's compositions. Also, the band version has some killer drum parts, bass and keyboard rhythm.

I've seen the acoustic version so many times.. and yes it's stunning.. but so is Songbird.. and I wouldn't mind her change that up either.. with perhaps Givin it Back duet with LB... You're the one that doesn't want to live in the past... :xoxo:

elle

02-06-2014, 06:51 PM

I've seen the acoustic version so many times.. and yes it's stunning.. but so is Songbird.. and I wouldn't mind her change that up either.. with perhaps Givin it Back duet with LB... You're the one that doesn't want to live in the past... :xoxo:

yes. he can drop any other song in the set but these two. including GYOW (which he won't, but just sayin', he can, and did in the past when doing completely acoustic sets).

something that brings you new admirers every time you perform it is moving you forward. he won't change the minds of most people who post here who already love him (or don't, and that won't change either).

vivfox

02-06-2014, 07:49 PM

vivfox - ISA is plenty long for you to use the restroom, if you are so inclined. and if you are running late, you'll just miss SB and GYOW right behind it - 2 songs they never drop either, so why bother listening to them? :p

I love ISA. It's a great live song and when I close my eyes at the show, it always takes me back to the mid 1970's.

Kubrick2788

02-06-2014, 11:08 PM

Lindsey is gaining new fans when he performs Big Love with the lunatic grunting at the end...? I mean, I like the song and the solo version, but a big draw for newbies...

elle

02-06-2014, 11:34 PM

Lindsey is gaining new fans when he performs Big Love with the lunatic grunting at the end...? I mean, I like the song and the solo version, but a big draw for newbies...
not sure why others wouldn't like it if you do? just look around the venue at the concert when he plays it. or look around the youtube at all the comments. i've seen plenty of comments like this:

"WOW being a guitar player who appreciates blues and acoustics alike, it's ASTOUNDING that I've never heard of this man before. What a find!
One of the best solo performances I have seen in a WHILE"

plus, being one of the people who became a fan after seeing the videos of Big Love and Go Insane, i can attest to that first hand.

jbrownsjr

02-07-2014, 02:15 AM

yes. he can drop any other song in the set but these two. including GYOW (which he won't, but just sayin', he can, and did in the past when doing completely acoustic sets).

something that brings you new admirers every time you perform it is moving you forward. he won't change the minds of most people who post here who already love him (or don't, and that won't change either).

Yes but he reinforces my faith in cycles. :)

Nicks Fan

02-07-2014, 02:37 PM

In my oppinion they should really change the setlist. The show is so stale now it is getting tiresome. When Big Love was performed in 97 it showcased the song in a different way and it was great. The problem is the novelty has worn off since it he has peformed it on every solo and FM tour since. Same goes for I'm So Afraid. The only reason I would welcome any of the songs into the next setlist is that having Christine back singing on these songs is like hearing them for the first time.

They need to stop catering to casual fans and reward the hard core fans who have stuck by them. They could easily do 10-12 lesser known songs or even some past hits they have not done in a while and still have a good show.

If they did 25 songs for this tour that would give them each 8 songs and The Chain as a group number credited to all of them.

Now for the new tour here is what they could do

For SN the 6 songs she could do is
1. New Song
2. Seven Wonders
3. Landslide
4. Rhiananon
5. Angel
6. Beautiful Child
7. That's Allright
8. Dreams

For Lindsey the 6 songs he could do
1. New Song
2. New Song
3. Tusk
4. Go Your Own Way
5. Bleed To Love Her
6. Can't Go Back
7. Never Going Back Again
8. Blue Letter

For Christine the 6 songs she could do

1. New Song
2. Brown Eyes
3. Everywhere
4. Say You Love Me
5. Don't Stop
6. Songbird
7. You Make Lovin Fun
8. Hold Me

The Chain would be the group combo. As I have said before I would take any song they have not performed at all or in a very long time. My Sugestions are merely songs that I think have a chance of being done live. There are great possibilities if they would only take a chance.

SteveMacD

02-07-2014, 06:25 PM

Christine's return opens up all of the "standard non-hits" for Stevie and Lindsey.

Ulpian

02-07-2014, 08:11 PM

not sure why others wouldn't like it if you do? just look around the venue at the concert when he plays it. or look around the youtube at all the comments. i've seen plenty of comments like this:

"WOW being a guitar player who appreciates blues and acoustics alike, it's ASTOUNDING that I've never heard of this man before. What a find!
One of the best solo performances I have seen in a WHILE"

plus, being one of the people who became a fan after seeing the videos of Big Love and Go Insane, i can attest to that first hand.

Yes, fine, first timers might love that version of Big Love. Some of us would prefer a change.

I can attest first hand that fans were practically screaming for "Everywhere" the last two tours and they didn't get it. There's all sorts which lures an audience in. There is plenty in the catalogue which could be brought out to dazzle the proles.

elle

02-07-2014, 08:43 PM

Yes, fine, first timers might love that version of Big Love. Some of us would prefer a change.

:lol: i'm imagining you stomping your foot like a little kid in a fit . ;) :xoxo:

but yeah that's exactly what i'm saying - i think in essence we agree, i've just given up (on FM, i'm still hoping that LB solo will be less conservative and more amenable to changes) - there are some things each of the performers have that they can use to woo the new fans. that doesn't mean they cannot replace other stuff to shake it up a bit. you can have the setlist that can woo in new fans, still give people who want to hear hits plenty to be happy about, and have more than 2-3 deep cuts for the diehards. most other bands do that. bands with more huge hits than FM still don't cover every single hit in their setlist, and they have plenty of deeper cuts too. FM's setlist from tour to tour is so similar that it's almost grotesque.

almost every other band also changes setlist - either slightly or a lot - from date to date. not FM.

NIN was touring the US last fall promoting Hesitation Marks. they rotated all the new songs from the album so that between 3 different dates every new song was performed. makes sense. we could never get that from FM. i kept asking Mick at m&gs about different possibilities of slightly changing the setlist between dates. why not change up at least 2 or 3 songs if you don't wanna change half the set? he looked regretful but said it's never gonna happen.

michelej1

02-07-2014, 09:03 PM

That version of Big Love started on his solo tours and he can take it back there. Let him lure in new fans at his solo shows with that. I think that The Dance made it so famous that still having it in the setlist exactly the same as it was on the dvd is makes the band seem dated. Not to mention that Lindsey always does it when he needs a one off song for a radio show or something. At this point, I think it narrows the general perception of his talents because even casual fans have seen him do it a few times now and it suggests that's all he can do.

Either he can do Big Love with the FM band or he can bring in a new song (or old song that hasn't been played live yet, like Tango) and awe FM audiences in a new way. And if he wants he can put Go Insane (without the band) back in the FM setlist. That's tried and true. People will also recognize that from the Dance, but it hasn't been exhausted like Big Love has. Michele

Michele

elle

02-07-2014, 09:10 PM

Either he can do Big Love with the FM band or he can bring in a new song (or old song that hasn't been played live yet, like Tango) and awe FM audiences in a new way. And if he wants he can put Go Insane (without the band) back in the FM setlist. That's tried and true. People will also recognize that from the Dance, but it hasn't been exhausted like Big Love has. Michele

and....... we are back to where we started. ;)

no, general public does not know who LB is, and no, unless they live in Europe, general audiences do not know this version of BL.

go insane? he should bring a solo song into FM set and take FM song into solo set? why????? :confused:

michelej1

02-07-2014, 09:21 PM

and....... we are back to where we started. ;)

no, general public does not know who LB is, and no, unless they live in Europe, general audiences do not know this version of BL.

You're wrong. I don't know what people in Europe know. But people around me who are not into FM at all have known about this version of Big Love since The Dance.

He can wow them with something else and keep himself from falling into a one trick pony trap.

Michele

elle

02-07-2014, 09:25 PM

He can wow them with something else and keep himself from falling into a one trick pony trap.

you do know there are usually 10-12 songs of his in the FM setlist? :p he doesn't only play BL over and over.

but yeah, i know you don't want Christine to play Little Lies, and i'm guessing Stevie to play Landslide either.

michelej1

02-07-2014, 09:28 PM

you do know there are usually 10-12 songs of his in the FM setlist? :p he doesn't only play BL over and over.

but yeah, i know you don't want Christine to play Little Lies, and i'm guessing Stevie to play Landslide either.

I don't care about Landslide. In fact, I might want Stevie to drop Dreams instead of Landslide. But no I don't want Christine to play Little Lies and it's not because I think it's worn out. I just don't, um :distress: I don't want to go out like that.

It's not that I don't like the song for myself. At home. I do.

Michele

jbrownsjr

02-07-2014, 09:31 PM

elle

02-07-2014, 09:32 PM

you know since we are discussing this, just curious -

which song would fans here think SN should sing live to woo in new fans, who know nothing about her?

(and i'm talking now, not 40 years ago, when it was obviously Rhiannon)

my guess would be maybe Gold Dust Woman? or Landslide.

what about Christine?

michelej1

02-07-2014, 09:43 PM

which song would fans here think SN should sing live to woo in new fans, who know nothing about her?

(and i'm talking now, not 40 years ago, when it was obviously Rhiannon)

my guess would be maybe Gold Dust Woman? or Landslide.

what about Christine?

It's really hard for me to say. For Stevie solo, I think EO17 is a song that really takes it home at the end. After she does the Edge walk and then goes back to her mic, I think that's really exciting. I also think the opening drums are hot.

I find GDW the freshest of the Rumours songs. And I know Stevie fans are always talking about how she nails that "go hoooooome". But I'm not sure if that's the song new people leave talking about.

Christine is hard. What song is going to make you run out and want to hear more of her stuff? For me it is SYLM. Right now, maybe it would be Everywhere for most new audiences. Maybe Songbird might do that to new people. I just got off of a blog where someone was talking about Hoffmann's funeral and referenced Songbird. Maybe that song captures you when you're in a melancholy place.

I have to say Isn't It Midnight drew me into an FM concert when Lindsey wasn't there, which is a minor feat, because when Lindsey's not there, do trees even make a sound when they fall in the forest? So, if it's arranged as good as it was back then Isn't it Midnight might have people going, "whoa."

Michele

elle

02-07-2014, 09:53 PM

It's really hard for me to say. For Stevie solo, I think EO17 is a song that really takes it home at the end. After she does the Edge walk and then goes back to her mic, I think that's really exciting. I also think the opening drums are hot.

I find GDW the freshest of the Rumours songs. And I know Stevie fans are always talking about how she nails that "go hoooooome". But I'm not sure if that's the song new people leave talking about.

Christine is hard. What song is going to make you run out and want to hear more of her stuff? For me it is SYLM. Right now, maybe it would be Everywhere for most new audiences. Maybe Songbird might do that to new people. I just got off of a blog where someone was talking about Hoffmann's funeral and referenced Songbird. Maybe that song captures you when you're in a melancholy place.

I have to say Isn't It Midnight drew me into an FM concert when Lindsey wasn't there, which is a minor feat, because when Lindsey's not there, do trees even make a sound when they fall in the forest? So, if it's arranged as good as it was back then Isn't it Midnight might have people going, "whoa."

Michele
of course not! :D

thanks for indulging me.

just to clarify, i'm not talking about songs that are popular or even that people may have heard before so they are recognizable. i'm talking if someone comes in cold, like that guy commenting on Big Love on youtube, which song(s) would be the one that draws them in and turns them on SN or CM.

i remember listening to"the very best of" in the car with my 10 yo, and when CM song came on she loved it, and having just seen FM concert, she asked me - who is that, and why was she not there?? but i cannot remember which song it was. (of course, it will be a very different song for a 10yo girl than for teenager hipsters or adults.)

(i agree that Everywhere is very recognizable now, especially in UK/Europe. still, Don't Stop is probably by far her most recognizable song, and probably FM's most recognizable song, too.)

michelej1

02-07-2014, 10:02 PM

of course not! :D

thanks for indulging me.

just to clarify, i'm not talking about songs that are popular or even that people may have heard before so they are recognizable. i'm talking if someone comes in cold, like that guy commenting on Big Love on youtube, which song(s) would be the one that draws them in and turns them on SN or CM.

No, I know you are talking about something that will nab a new listener. And that's why I said Isn't It Midnight, because it nabbed me at a point in FM's life when I didn't think I could be excited about much.

And I said Songbird, not because it is a concert staple, but because I think the sentiment and rather classic performance of it could make people, NEW people, feel emotional. You leave. It makes you feel a little weepy and maybe it becomes a part of your life, during sad times.

Lindsey you know, I honestly think the way he runs around kind of entices people. His tirelessness takes them by surprise and just makes them say "who is this guy? I mean, I knew there was a guitarist in FM, but I never knew he was like that." It doesn't particularly matter what the song is. IKINW could do it, truly.

I think he can grab new people with the fast numbers more than something like NGBA though. It was lovely once, but I don't think NGBA's got anyone asking to hear more from him these days.

Although, I did see a Q & A just yesterday when someone asked what song was playing in the Bank of America commercial.

Michele

PenguinHead

02-07-2014, 11:54 PM

https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1/1557470_692053600816217_1750640664_n.jpg

Taken in the last day or so according to Twitter...

Absolutely thrilled to see this picture! Christine looking great and hanging with Steve Tyler! I was unaware of the close relationship he has with Mick (I think they are neighbors in Hawaii). Steven has always spoken about Mick with great respect. He's a big fan of the band's blues era.

So it appears that Christine is hanging out with them. Could it be that she is working on songs for a future Fleetwood Mac album? I sure hope so.

PenguinHead

02-08-2014, 12:17 AM

ugh, that g**damned clip in her hair! oy.

I was stunned to see her currently wearing that thing in her hair! The only other time I saw that in her hair was in the photo shoot for her 1984 solo album, when that kind of thing was stylish. It seems so dated and out of fashion now. Glad I don't see her wearing it while hanging with Steven Tyler at Mick's house. Maybe she only wears it on special occasions!

Wdm6789

07-29-2014, 11:56 AM

I'm sure everyone is tired of me talking about Hold Me. Do you guys think it has a good chance of making the set list?

Dex

07-29-2014, 12:13 PM

I think it's one of those songs that they'll decide "doesn't translate to live performance". I wouldn't bet on it, personally.

AnthonyMI

07-29-2014, 12:37 PM

The same as ALL odds. 50/50. Either they do, or the do not.

AC

Dex

07-29-2014, 01:11 PM

The same as ALL odds. 50/50. Either they do, or the do not.

AC

Does that mean I have a 50/50 chance of becoming a famous lawyer detective, because I either will or I won't? Cool.

Thinking about it, I might take back my original comment. The only Chris songs we can pretty safely assume she'll play are probably

Say You Love Me
World Turning
Songbird
Don't Stop
Everywhere

Which I suppose leaves a fair bit of wiggle room. Hold Me seems as likely as anything else that's not on this list, tbh.

He's So Unusual

07-29-2014, 01:20 PM

I wouldn't mind if they skipped it. I really want them to play Isn't It Midnight.

Wdm6789

07-29-2014, 02:42 PM

Does that mean I have a 50/50 chance of becoming a famous lawyer detective, because I either will or I won't? Cool.

Thinking about it, I might take back my original comment. The only Chris songs we can pretty safely assume she'll play are probably

Say You Love Me
World Turning
Songbird
Don't Stop
Everywhere

Which I suppose leaves a fair bit of wiggle room. Hold Me seems as likely as anything else that's not on this list, tbh.

You make loving fun is also a safe bet.

Dex

07-29-2014, 02:43 PM

You make loving fun is also a safe bet.

True. I'd actually completely forgotten about that one. Whoops!

jbrownsjr

07-29-2014, 02:50 PM

I wouldn't mind if they skipped it. I really want them to play Isn't It Midnight.

Amen! Do something that could really blow up the stage!!

Wdm6789

07-29-2014, 03:21 PM

Amen! Do something that could really blow up the stage!!

Hold me would do that too! I love both songs but Hold Me was a big hit back in the day and it's still played on classic rock radio stations, the ones that play good classic rock.

Is Big Love the only Tango song they play now? They should do Seven Wonders and Everywhere or Little Lies or Isn't it Midnight, so all three get to play a Tango song.

FuzzyPlum

07-29-2014, 04:24 PM

Hold me would do that too! I love both songs but Hold Me was a big hit back in the day and it's still played on classic rock radio stations, the ones that play good classic rock.

Is Big Love the only Tango song they play now? They should do Seven Wonders and Everywhere or Little Lies or Isn't it Midnight, so all three get to play a Tango song.

'Classic rock' !!!! Wow, Hold Me is alright as a song but I've never considered it even remotely in the 'rock' category. For me its such a lightweight pop song- I guess the term 'rock' is very flexible. I don't think I've ever heard it on the radio at all in the UK (though it was never a hit here).

All three playing a Tango song- I like this suggestion. I'll take Seven Wonders, Tango In The Night and Isn't It Midnight please.

bethelblues

07-29-2014, 06:10 PM

You Make Loving Fun is in for sure. Here's what I think:

Guaranteed Additions
Say You Love Me
You Make Loving Fun
Songbird

Basically Promised
Brown Eyes
Oh Daddy

That leaves 2-4 others, depending on what Christine is up for. Don't count out Love In Store from Mirage, which is a little more up tempo if they need that. I'm also hoping for Little Lies and Isn't It Midnight before Everywhere. The excuse that something doesn't work live is bullocks...they are musicians, make it work, change the arrangement up, give us something fresh. There is also Why, which we had a topic about, great forgotten gem that music critics would go crazy about if done effectively. What I don't want to see is the same songs from The Dance when there's such an amazing catalogue to choose from.

I see these two as more band songs than solely Christine songs, as they've been doing them without her:

Already in Set from Before
Don't Stop

Highly Possible
World Turning