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michelej1
11-03-2013, 09:40 PM
3/31/12 at 03:17 by Stacey Dames, Blogs, The Christian Post
http://blogs.christianpost.com/real-eyes/the-enchanting-musical-spells-of-stevie-nicks-9080/
Stand Back:The Enchanting World of Stevie Nicks
Long before American Idol turned idolatry into an audition, Madonna's relevance became irrelevant then back again, and Halloween goth was mainstream fashion, there was Stevie Nicks. Standing only five feet tall, wearing signature six inch platform boots and draped in flowing gypsy attire, a deep-voiced Stevie dominated the seventies with supergroup Fleetwood Mac. She went on to have even more success with a solo career, various duets, and tours until this day. But unlike the pop stars of the last decade or two, Stevie can actually sing. Though not nearly as sexual or blunt as the Material girl, Stevie's lyrics, music, and fashion will prove to be just as bewitching albeit in a more subtle way. Here are some highlights:
1975- song Rhiannon; Stevie apparently wrote the song after reading a novel called Triad by Mary Leader.The book is about demon possession and stars a character named Rhiannon who is a Welsh witch. Reports say it took Stevie about ten minutes to write the song. This happens quite often in the music industry; artists have songs channeled to them instantly. Rhiannon rings like a bell through the night/Takes to the sky like a bird in flight/She is like a cat in the dark/And then she is the darkness/She rules her life like a fine skylark/And when the sky is starless/dreams unwind/Love's a state of mind.
To the average person these lyrics are nothing more than words in a song, but to those involved in witchcraft, also known as Wicca, these words have very serious meanings. While touring, Stevie would sometimes open this song informing the audience the song is about 'an old Welsh witch.'
According to Wikipedia, "Rhiannon is a prominent figure in Welsh mythology, mother to the Demetian hero Pryderi and wife to Pwyll ( and later Manawydan fab Llyr). She is probably a reflex of the Celtic Great Queen goddess Rigantona and may also be associated with the horse goddess Epona."
In 2000, self declared witch Eileen Holland wrote a detailed A to Z titled, "The Wicca Handbook," which lists Rhiannon as a goddess that one can invoke under the signs of Earth (for money spells, rock magic, fertility), Mercury (for communication), Moon (for inspiration), and Sun (corresponds to creativity spells). Rhiannon can also be invoked for truth spells pertaining to law and justice and enchantment spells. Rhiannon is listed alongside some other well known goddesses: Artemis, Cybele, Gaia, Isis, Ishtar, Mother Earth, Mother Nature and Inanna.
(Noted pertaining to witchcraft are the albums "Fleetwood Mac," "Rumours," "Belladonna," and "The Dance" all featuring a crystal ball on the cover. Stevie also appeared topless on their first album, "Buckingham/Nicks).
In live versions of the song Rhiannon, additional lyrics were added and/or changed:
"Once in a million years, a lady like her rises. 'Rhiannon' you cry but she's gone, and your life knows no answer, and your life knows no answer."
Bewitching, enchanting, and possibly a reference to the mythological Phoenix bird rising again from the ashes. A belief in reincarnation is seen throughout Wicca, though many witches state they do not believe in reaching enlightenment (Nirvana) as the Buddhists teach, but rather enjoy returning to live multiple times. Stevie's publishing company is Welsh Witch Music named after the witch Rhiannon.
1975-Landslide: Oh mirror in the sky/what is love? Clearly a denial of the God of the Bible. Mirrors aren't in the sky and 'they' didn't create love nor can they hear or respond to questions. One cannot help but see the double meanings about cocaine use in this song. Words like mirror and snow covered hills, whether intentional or not, have significant meaning since Stevie struggled with cocaine use for decades(as did all of Fleetwood Mac) and was told by doctors to quit or she would die. Landslide would be a fitting term for drug addicts when they crash.
1977-Gold Dust Woman: Rock on, gold dust woman/Take your silver spoon
and dig your grave/Heartless challenge, pick your path and I'll pray/Rock on, ancient woman, follow those who pale in your shadow. During the studio take for this song, Stevie wrapped her head, thought not her mouth, in a black scarf attempting to dull her five senses in an attempt to tap 'real' emotions and feelings. In response to Courtney Love (who covered the song in 1996) Stevie had this to say in a 1997 Spin magazine interview, "You know what, Courtney? I don't really know what "Gold Dust Woman" is about. I know there was cocaine there and that I fancied it gold dust, somehow. I'm going to have to go back to my journals and see if I can pull something out about "Gold Dust Woman". Because I don't really know. It's weird that I'm not quite sure. It can't be all about cocaine." The creepy inhuman sounding wail at the end of this song is chilling. It was at first thought to be Lindsey, but as live concerts prove it is the devils screeching through Stevie. There is a clip of this song from a 1977 New York concert that could rival Jim Morrison of The Doors.
1977- You Make Loving Fun- Sung by fellow bandmate Christine McVie and inspired by an affair she had, Christine makes it clear what she is singing about: I never did believe in miracles/ But I've a feeling its time to try/I never did believe in the ways of magic/ But I'm beginning to wonder why....Don't, don't break the spell. Interesting note is that Christine's mother, Beatrice, was a psychic and 'healer'..apparently able to heal warts overnight with the touch of a finger. "It's like a living thing, this Fleetwood Mac. It's a source stronger than its various members." -Christine McVie
Before the Fleetwood Mac lineup starring Stevie Nicks and Lindsey Buckingham, which utlimately catapulted them to top billing status, the group went through several members due to one problem or another. One lead singer was a man by the name of Bob Welch, known for hit songs "Sentimental Lady" and "Ebony Eyes."
Bob wrote a hit for the group called "Hypnotized" and explains what the song is about, "At the time I was very influenced by the books I was reading, like Carlos Castaneda (anthropologist and best selling author who wrote a series on his experience training for shamanism, lifting the teachings of satanist Aliester Crowley), and material on the Bermuda Triangle-that whole area where the paranormal intrudes upon reality. The other influence on that song was the general atmosphere at Benifols (where Fleetwood Mac lived), which was rather spooky and strange, even in the summertime....I was reading about, as the lyric says, 'a place down in Mexico where man can fly over mountains and hills,' and one night I had a vivid dream that a UFO piloted by a Navajo shaman landed on our overgrown grass tennis court one moonlit night. That was the feeling that went into 'Hypnotized.' Christine McVie helped a lot with the new tempo and the mood. I remember listening to the playback with her. She looked at me and said, 'It gives me the willies, Bob.' I felt the same way, even after a hundred playbacks." A mystical, eerie, other worldly song about imagination and not wanting to or being able to discern reality.
1977- Dreams: Now here I go again, I see the crystal visions/I keep my visions to myself /It's only me who wants to wrap around your dreams and/Have you any dreams you'd like to sell. Seeing crystal visions and dreams for sale? Stevie Nicks, as a medium through Fleetwood Mac and her solo work, will prove to be a master painter at creating ethereal manifestations of not being able to discern reality from dreams and giving the illusions while asking the question,"What, if anything is real?
1979-Sara: In hypnotic trance beats, a slower song that really never takes off, we are given such lyrics as: Wait a minute baby/Stay with me awhile/Said you'd give me light/but you never told me about the fire/And he was just like a great dark wing/within the wings of a storm/Sara, you're the poet in my heart/never change, never stop/All I ever wanted was to know that you were dreaming(There's a heartbeat and it never really died) In this mystical song about darkness and fire, Sara is only identified as someone who lives within Stevie and is the poetic inspiration that keeps her going. Many artists over the years have admitted they work with an entity or some type of spirit that provides creative help for their projects. Many artists say they hear the music and/or lyrics as a complete piece in their head before even beginning the creative process. Joni Mitchell has admitted to having a spirit guide named "Art" that has helped her career over the years. While it is entirely possible that Sara was a real person who inspired Stevie, it is interesting to learn that witches invoke a goddess by the name Sarasvati for poetic inspiration. Another theory, according to Eagles lead singer Don Henly, who dated Stevie, is Sara was written/dedicated to the spirit of the baby she aborted. Don Henly was the father. According to a 1992 VOX magazine interview Stevie had four abortions total and though she states it breaks her heart, she justifies her actions by putting her career first. Stevie was also involved with Joe Walsh.
The Eagles have had many hits over the decades and it should come as no surprise to find out this band also is satanically inspired. In their 1976 hit, "Life in the Fast Line" they blaspheme the name of God while glorifying drug use. In the song, "One of These Nights," they mention demons and searching for the daughter of the devil. In a oddly titled song, "Good Day in Hell," we hear: the devils on the phone/ he laughs and says your doin' just fine....In that big book of names/ I wanna go down in flames/Seein how I'm goin'down/Oh well, it's been a good day in hell. But their most controversial yet loved song, "Hotel California" has been linked with Anton Lavey, church of satan founder. Some have even said he appears on this album cover. One thing that can't be debated is when Eagles manager, Larry Salter, gave an interview in 1982 admitting the Eagles were in fact involved with the church of satan.
In a candid autobiography Mick Fleetwood wrote in 1990, he describes Stevie as a 'high priestess' more than once: "Stevie went through six costume changes and poured herself into 'Sara' wrapped in a long red shawl that made her look like a high priestess. I looked out (into the audience) and saw they were hers. Her intimate gestures, soothsayer's words, and majestic raised palms and magic. The girls strained to hear the unheard lines Stevie liked to chant out of range of the microphone."
In revealing detail, Mick chronicles the bands' endless abuse of cocaine and alcohol, adulterous affairs and fornication, as well as physical abuse between Lindsey and Stevie. Mick also discloses to readers that he has dressed in women's clothing since youth.
1981-Stop Dragging My Heart Around duet with Tom Petty; a song about a love affair gone wrong: So you've had a little trouble in town/now you're keeping some demon down/stop dragging my, stop dragging my, stop dragging my heart around. Here we have an actual mention of the word demon, but like most things in the entertainment industry, it goes unnoticed. Many will sing songs not understanding what they are singing or not knowing the words, never fully realizing the overall context of the message.
1981- Edge of Seventeen (Just Like the White Winged Dove) Just like the white winged dove is Stevie's take on the soul when it leaves the body during death. Death is also described in this song as a nightbird that says, "come away." Written in memory of a loved one, it is also in memory of John Lennon. John Lennon wrote the New World Order utopian anthem, "Imagine," which perfectly describes antichrists kingdom living as one (for the first three and a half years).
1982- Fast Times At Ridgemont High- written by Cameron Crowe based on his undercover experience at a California high school. The movie introduces viewers to nudity, cursing, sex, drug use and abortion as normal everyday experiences, hence the title. The film presents a couple of story lines. Although we are lead to believe the movie is about Sean Penn's character, I beg to differ. The real story is about Stacy Hamiliton (played by Jennifer Jason Leigh) who has sex with a fellow classmate, ends up pregnant and has an abortion. Not only does the movie portray having an abortion as something similiar to getting a wart removed and applying a band-aid afterwards, viewers never get to see the deleted 'abortion scene.' As Stacy is laying gowned up and the doctor begins, she nervously asks him if it will hurt as much as havng a baby. The doctor honestly replies no but tells her she would mind less. No wonder they cut the scene!
So, what does any of this have to do with Stevie Nicks? As Stacy is pacing back and forth on the tree lawn waiting for a ride to the abortion clinic from Mike (pictured above), who never shows, viewers are lulled by the song Sleeping Angel by Stevie Nicks .A song about spells, trust issues, and not being able to commit. When this soft hypnotic lullaby begins, one can actually find themselves feeling sorry for this character who is about to murder her baby. As Stevie's music and lyrics clearly state, committment and trust is not to be found, so don't even bother looking: take me if you need me/but never hold me down/ you're asking me to trust you and there's little of that around/ I'm trying to believe you/ and I'm learning all the time/ two part personality/the flower and the vine/ take me sleeping angel/catch me if you can/real love affairs are heavy spells for a woman and a man/ but never take me lightly/for I could never stay/no I could never stay. The power of music in movies can never be underestimated. Producers and directors understand this on a level the average person does not which is why they are skilled at hiring the best in the business to take viewers on a rollercoaster of emotions. The top grossing movies of our time would not be the best sellers they are without the accompanying soundtracks that direct our feelings and responses as they intend. (Though child sacrifice has been with us since the beginning of humanity, it was marketed and made legal by leading global eugenicist Margaret Sanger. To read more about this legal depopulation program started by racists, please see Margaret Sanger article on this blog)
1983 - Interview with MTV's Mark Goodman, Stevie Nicks obviously on drugs and/or alcohol tells him about her being called upon to continue a solo career, though she never names who or what is calling her to do this. She also mentions that she only cares about the fans who can 'read between the lines' concerning her messages, those who can read between the lines will "get it."
1997-Silver Springs - This song was originally to appear on the 1977 Rumours abum, but made it to the B-side of "Go Your Own Way." This song was brought to life at their 1997 reunion concert, The Dance. In what could only be described as accurate concerning Stevie's many failed relationships, she describes the sadness thinking about what could have been, and of course, casting spells: And did you say she was pretty/ And did you say that she loves you/ Baby, I don't wanna know/ And can you tell me was it worth it/ Really, I don't wanna know/Time cast a spell on you, but you won't forget me/ I know I could have loved you, but you would not let me/I'll follow you down til' the sound of my voice will haunt you. In this particular concert, as with others, you can see the pain on Stevie's face as sings these lines to Lindsey. With piercing dagger eyes on him, in a stalkerish kind of way, she never really let go.
2004- In an Australian interview Stevie is asked whether she believes in magic. She responds, "Absolutely."
In a bizarre occult like ritual started about twenty-one years ago called, "Night of a Thousand Stevie's," people dress up every year paying homage to this musical enchantress. Wearing goth gypsy attire, freemason top hats, over done makeup and hair, they mimic and worship Stevie as the goddess they believe her to be.
It is so very obvious who these people serve. Their motto is the famous satanic commandment number one: DO WHAT THOU WILT.
So many people worship these musicians as "gods," bowing down to them in words, lifestyle, clothes and endless praise. Many lost souls even use songs as life defining marker moments; an event forever frozen, entangled in notes. It is sad to say most know more about celebrities than the God who made them and died for them. And what exactly is the public worshipping?
As with many artists, most of their inspiration comes from life experiences. Here we have artists who were killing themselves with drugs and alcohol. Rampant fornication and adulterous affairs were the norm. Sorcery, witchcraft, divination, all things evil forbidden by the LORD GOD are promoted as quite acceptable, even encouraged. Their best known songs came out of their most sinful experiences.
With songs like "Black Magic Woman" (yes, they originally did it) and "Sisters of the Moon", band members reading from and inspired by books on witchcraft, dressing and acting the part of shamans onstage, the message is clear. If the LORD tells us in His Word that fornication is a sin, then why would we watch fornication portrayed on a television show or listen to it in a song? And those who claim Christ, yet play in the devil's backyard by listening to devilish music, need to turn to Scripture. God is very clear: this is a battleground, not a playground.
How can we, as Christians, enjoy the same things that nailed Christ to the cross?
And I can hear many Christians complaining about music nowadays and how bad it is. "But they are good at what they do!"
So was Hitler.
Time is so very short. Believe on the Gospel message and repent. Salvation and repentance go hand in hand. We work from salvation, not for it. The Spirit of God will not strive with satan, sin, and the wicked things of this world.
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish but have everlasting life.
Titus 1:16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.
Matthew 7:21-23 These were professing Christians, people who claimed to know the Lord, but He did not know them.
Hebrews 9:27 And as it appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment.
These people are not serving the LORD. Are you?
WildHearted
11-03-2013, 09:52 PM
Well, admittedly, I didn't read this whole thing because I got the gist of where it was going a paragraph or two in, so I just skimmed.
But I have to say that I honestly find this kind of stuff laughable.
There's a million terrible things in the world that you could blog about to turn into a life/religious lesson, and you choose freaking Stevie Nicks? On the basis of exaggerated and/or off base interpretations, none the less.
michelej1
11-03-2013, 10:09 PM
And at this stage of her career, how many people is Stevie condemning to eternal sin anyway? You know, maybe blog about Miley Cyrus or Justin Bieber or Breaking Bad. They have a much larger impact on a bigger audience.
Man, if I was in school, I'd write a million papers on Breaking Bad. The teacher would probably put a limit on that subject. I know in one class I had the teacher asked for music essays but told people they couldn't write about the Beatles because he'd had enough papers on them to last him a lifetime.
Michele
bombaysaffires
11-03-2013, 10:49 PM
well and of course her charitable work (and who knows how much of that we don't even know about) just gets completely ignored in this portrayal because, well, it wouldn't fit the narrative. This crap has been around FOREVER and it's bizarre.
Hawkeye
11-03-2013, 10:58 PM
For someone who's painting Stevie in a negative light, they sure are getting their facts right and bringing up some really specific things like live Rhiannon lyrics and actually seems like way more then a fan then most fans who write about stevieor fleetwood mac
michelej1
11-03-2013, 11:01 PM
For someone who's painting Stevie in a negative light, they sure are getting their facts right and bringing up some really specific things like live Rhiannon lyrics and actually seems like way more then a fan then most fans who write about stevieor fleetwood mac
Guess you have to do your research so you know what is the devil's work and what is not. That's pretty funny that they know the variation on the Rhiannon lyrics.
Michele
:laugh: ha ha ha
They should have mentioned the Stand Back video where Stevie's face becomes demonic.
BlueDenimLamp
11-03-2013, 11:27 PM
Wait till they find out about American Horror Story using her songs...:lol::lol::lol:
BlueDenimLamp
11-03-2013, 11:43 PM
This is the picture of Stevie they used...These people seriously think she's a witch and trying to spread her demonic ways...Go to the website and check out the comment section...
Bandon
11-03-2013, 11:43 PM
"Nut job!" :eek:
BlueDenimLamp
11-03-2013, 11:55 PM
Here are some of the comments...
Unless I missed it up there in the report, there was certainly one song where Stevie Nicks did a wichcraft incantion and that was in the song 'Gold Dust Woman' Here are the words:- '' Pale shadow of woman, Black widow. Pale shadow of dragon, black widow.Stuff like this can be quite potent in wichcraft and many rock groups incorporated similar satanic lyrics in their songs.. I used to work with people in the recording industry and often these groups would go into the studio to record an album, then do incantaions over the master tapes so that the listener would inflect themselves or, have suicidal thoughts when playing the music. It had the same effect as did backmasking.. Some of it actually caused people to kill themselves...
lonepalm678 - Friend, the woman is a self professed witch. What more is there to know or understand...:eek:
To think I've enjoyed their music all these years and have actually seen them in concert. Thank you so much for your in-depth research, as with your other posts on Madonna and Sanger. You're right, we blindly follow and don't always pay attention to the lyrics because we enjoy the music so much. Thanks also for the Eagles heads-up, I never knew this. Funny how they put the info out there, but somehow it's not picked up on by the media (sic). Heck, they're the ones that help to propagate and increase the popularity on the unsuspecting populace. So sad how deep this goes, but know that your work is opening many eyes. God bless you in your calling. Look forward to your future work...There's more but you get the idea...:lol:
I'm burning ALL my Stevie Nicks/Fleetwood Mac satanic cult stuff right now!!! With any luck I can still be saved...:angel:
michelej1
11-03-2013, 11:57 PM
I don't even know who "Sanger" is. Sigh. Also, can I just say that as far as incantations go, Pale shadow of woman, Black widow. Pale shadow of dragon, black widow is kind of lame. I've heard much worse stuff on Bewitched.
Michele
rhiannondontgo
11-04-2013, 12:09 AM
Jesus freaks really seem to hate her. Reminds me of this:
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I will never understand why the jesus freaks don't just go after the true things. Sex, drugs, abortions, adultery, etc etc. They preach about the witch thing, the one thing that isn't actually true. :rolleyes:
This is the picture of Stevie they used...These people seriously think she's a witch and trying to spread her demonic ways...Go to the website and check out the comment section...
aawww...I think she looks like Little Red Riding Hood there. (I know the outfit isn't red).
I'msoAfraid95
11-04-2013, 01:06 AM
I live in the middle of the bible belt yet Rhiannon is frequently played in stores.:shrug: Guess we don't mind witches here. :lol: :cool:
Well, admittedly, I didn't read this whole thing because I got the gist of where it was going a paragraph or two in, so I just skimmed.
Oh you must read the whole thing, WildHearted! The whole piece is quite fabulous, actually.
My favourite bits:
1975-Landslide: Oh mirror in the sky/what is love? Clearly a denial of the God of the Bible. Mirrors aren't in the sky and 'they' didn't create love nor can they hear or respond to questions.
Could this be a... Metaphor? No! Clearly she actually talks to a literal giant floating mirror in the sky. Witchcraft fo realz. I'm glad the writer pointed this out or I'd have missed it. People who talk to floating mirrors are just the worst and most evil of all.
One cannot help but see the double meanings about cocaine use in this song. Words like mirror and snow covered hills, whether intentional or not, have significant meaning since Stevie struggled with cocaine use for decades(as did all of Fleetwood Mac) and was told by doctors to quit or she would die. Landslide would be a fitting term for drug addicts when they crash.
I feel like this writer is actually going through a severe drug withdrawal as she writes this, as seemingly everything connects to drugs in her mind. I guess all of winter is basically a giant coke reference. Because white.
While it is entirely possible that Sara was a real person who inspired Stevie, it is interesting to learn that witches invoke a goddess by the name Sarasvati for poetic inspiration.
Is the latter scenario really the likelier one? Really?
Other highlights include the invocation of songs by Christine and Bob Welch as though they are somehow Stevie's doing.
I seriously want to give this writer a big squishy hug. She's made my day.
And re: the discussion of the comments: How on earth is "Pale shadow of woman, Black widow. Pale shadow of dragon, black widow." an "incantation" of notable power? Fragmented sentences don't automatically equal satanism. Grammar nazis.
I live in the middle of the bible belt yet Rhiannon is frequently played in stores.:shrug: Guess we don't mind witches here. :lol: :cool:
She seems to be taken both ways, depending who you meet. I've spoken to people online who refuse to believe she ever had an abortion, because she's a "good Christian woman" and wouldn't do that. :shrug:
gldstwmn
11-04-2013, 01:37 PM
Written in the 17th century? Sigh...
BigLove
11-04-2013, 02:32 PM
3/31/12 at 03:17 by Stacey Dames, Blogs, The Christian Post
http://blogs.christianpost.com/real-eyes/the-enchanting-musical-spells-of-stevie-nicks-9080/
Stand Back:The Enchanting World of Stevie Nicks
Long before American Idol turned idolatry into an audition, Madonna's relevance became irrelevant then back again, and Halloween goth was mainstream fashion, there was Stevie Nicks. Standing only five feet tall, wearing signature six inch platform boots and draped in flowing gypsy attire, a deep-voiced Stevie dominated the seventies with supergroup Fleetwood Mac. She went on to have even more success with a solo career, various duets, and tours until this day. But unlike the pop stars of the last decade or two, Stevie can actually sing. Though not nearly as sexual or blunt as the Material girl, Stevie's lyrics, music, and fashion will prove to be just as bewitching albeit in a more subtle way. Here are some highlights:
1975- song Rhiannon; Stevie apparently wrote the song after reading a novel called Triad by Mary Leader.The book is about demon possession and stars a character named Rhiannon who is a Welsh witch. Reports say it took Stevie about ten minutes to write the song. This happens quite often in the music industry; artists have songs channeled to them instantly. Rhiannon rings like a bell through the night/Takes to the sky like a bird in flight/She is like a cat in the dark/And then she is the darkness/She rules her life like a fine skylark/And when the sky is starless/dreams unwind/Love's a state of mind.
To the average person these lyrics are nothing more than words in a song, but to those involved in witchcraft, also known as Wicca, these words have very serious meanings. While touring, Stevie would sometimes open this song informing the audience the song is about 'an old Welsh witch.'
According to Wikipedia, "Rhiannon is a prominent figure in Welsh mythology, mother to the Demetian hero Pryderi and wife to Pwyll ( and later Manawydan fab Llyr). She is probably a reflex of the Celtic Great Queen goddess Rigantona and may also be associated with the horse goddess Epona."
In 2000, self declared witch Eileen Holland wrote a detailed A to Z titled, "The Wicca Handbook," which lists Rhiannon as a goddess that one can invoke under the signs of Earth (for money spells, rock magic, fertility), Mercury (for communication), Moon (for inspiration), and Sun (corresponds to creativity spells). Rhiannon can also be invoked for truth spells pertaining to law and justice and enchantment spells. Rhiannon is listed alongside some other well known goddesses: Artemis, Cybele, Gaia, Isis, Ishtar, Mother Earth, Mother Nature and Inanna.
(Noted pertaining to witchcraft are the albums "Fleetwood Mac," "Rumours," "Belladonna," and "The Dance" all featuring a crystal ball on the cover. Stevie also appeared topless on their first album, "Buckingham/Nicks).
In live versions of the song Rhiannon, additional lyrics were added and/or changed:
"Once in a million years, a lady like her rises. 'Rhiannon' you cry but she's gone, and your life knows no answer, and your life knows no answer."
Bewitching, enchanting, and possibly a reference to the mythological Phoenix bird rising again from the ashes. A belief in reincarnation is seen throughout Wicca, though many witches state they do not believe in reaching enlightenment (Nirvana) as the Buddhists teach, but rather enjoy returning to live multiple times. Stevie's publishing company is Welsh Witch Music named after the witch Rhiannon.
1975-Landslide: Oh mirror in the sky/what is love? Clearly a denial of the God of the Bible. Mirrors aren't in the sky and 'they' didn't create love nor can they hear or respond to questions. One cannot help but see the double meanings about cocaine use in this song. Words like mirror and snow covered hills, whether intentional or not, have significant meaning since Stevie struggled with cocaine use for decades(as did all of Fleetwood Mac) and was told by doctors to quit or she would die. Landslide would be a fitting term for drug addicts when they crash.
1977-Gold Dust Woman: Rock on, gold dust woman/Take your silver spoon
and dig your grave/Heartless challenge, pick your path and I'll pray/Rock on, ancient woman, follow those who pale in your shadow. During the studio take for this song, Stevie wrapped her head, thought not her mouth, in a black scarf attempting to dull her five senses in an attempt to tap 'real' emotions and feelings. In response to Courtney Love (who covered the song in 1996) Stevie had this to say in a 1997 Spin magazine interview, "You know what, Courtney? I don't really know what "Gold Dust Woman" is about. I know there was cocaine there and that I fancied it gold dust, somehow. I'm going to have to go back to my journals and see if I can pull something out about "Gold Dust Woman". Because I don't really know. It's weird that I'm not quite sure. It can't be all about cocaine." The creepy inhuman sounding wail at the end of this song is chilling. It was at first thought to be Lindsey, but as live concerts prove it is the devils screeching through Stevie. There is a clip of this song from a 1977 New York concert that could rival Jim Morrison of The Doors.
1977- You Make Loving Fun- Sung by fellow bandmate Christine McVie and inspired by an affair she had, Christine makes it clear what she is singing about: I never did believe in miracles/ But I've a feeling its time to try/I never did believe in the ways of magic/ But I'm beginning to wonder why....Don't, don't break the spell. Interesting note is that Christine's mother, Beatrice, was a psychic and 'healer'..apparently able to heal warts overnight with the touch of a finger. "It's like a living thing, this Fleetwood Mac. It's a source stronger than its various members." -Christine McVie
Before the Fleetwood Mac lineup starring Stevie Nicks and Lindsey Buckingham, which utlimately catapulted them to top billing status, the group went through several members due to one problem or another. One lead singer was a man by the name of Bob Welch, known for hit songs "Sentimental Lady" and "Ebony Eyes."
Bob wrote a hit for the group called "Hypnotized" and explains what the song is about, "At the time I was very influenced by the books I was reading, like Carlos Castaneda (anthropologist and best selling author who wrote a series on his experience training for shamanism, lifting the teachings of satanist Aliester Crowley), and material on the Bermuda Triangle-that whole area where the paranormal intrudes upon reality. The other influence on that song was the general atmosphere at Benifols (where Fleetwood Mac lived), which was rather spooky and strange, even in the summertime....I was reading about, as the lyric says, 'a place down in Mexico where man can fly over mountains and hills,' and one night I had a vivid dream that a UFO piloted by a Navajo shaman landed on our overgrown grass tennis court one moonlit night. That was the feeling that went into 'Hypnotized.' Christine McVie helped a lot with the new tempo and the mood. I remember listening to the playback with her. She looked at me and said, 'It gives me the willies, Bob.' I felt the same way, even after a hundred playbacks." A mystical, eerie, other worldly song about imagination and not wanting to or being able to discern reality.
1977- Dreams: Now here I go again, I see the crystal visions/I keep my visions to myself /It's only me who wants to wrap around your dreams and/Have you any dreams you'd like to sell. Seeing crystal visions and dreams for sale? Stevie Nicks, as a medium through Fleetwood Mac and her solo work, will prove to be a master painter at creating ethereal manifestations of not being able to discern reality from dreams and giving the illusions while asking the question,"What, if anything is real?
1979-Sara: In hypnotic trance beats, a slower song that really never takes off, we are given such lyrics as: Wait a minute baby/Stay with me awhile/Said you'd give me light/but you never told me about the fire/And he was just like a great dark wing/within the wings of a storm/Sara, you're the poet in my heart/never change, never stop/All I ever wanted was to know that you were dreaming(There's a heartbeat and it never really died) In this mystical song about darkness and fire, Sara is only identified as someone who lives within Stevie and is the poetic inspiration that keeps her going. Many artists over the years have admitted they work with an entity or some type of spirit that provides creative help for their projects. Many artists say they hear the music and/or lyrics as a complete piece in their head before even beginning the creative process. Joni Mitchell has admitted to having a spirit guide named "Art" that has helped her career over the years. While it is entirely possible that Sara was a real person who inspired Stevie, it is interesting to learn that witches invoke a goddess by the name Sarasvati for poetic inspiration. Another theory, according to Eagles lead singer Don Henly, who dated Stevie, is Sara was written/dedicated to the spirit of the baby she aborted. Don Henly was the father. According to a 1992 VOX magazine interview Stevie had four abortions total and though she states it breaks her heart, she justifies her actions by putting her career first. Stevie was also involved with Joe Walsh.
The Eagles have had many hits over the decades and it should come as no surprise to find out this band also is satanically inspired. In their 1976 hit, "Life in the Fast Line" they blaspheme the name of God while glorifying drug use. In the song, "One of These Nights," they mention demons and searching for the daughter of the devil. In a oddly titled song, "Good Day in Hell," we hear: the devils on the phone/ he laughs and says your doin' just fine....In that big book of names/ I wanna go down in flames/Seein how I'm goin'down/Oh well, it's been a good day in hell. But their most controversial yet loved song, "Hotel California" has been linked with Anton Lavey, church of satan founder. Some have even said he appears on this album cover. One thing that can't be debated is when Eagles manager, Larry Salter, gave an interview in 1982 admitting the Eagles were in fact involved with the church of satan.
In a candid autobiography Mick Fleetwood wrote in 1990, he describes Stevie as a 'high priestess' more than once: "Stevie went through six costume changes and poured herself into 'Sara' wrapped in a long red shawl that made her look like a high priestess. I looked out (into the audience) and saw they were hers. Her intimate gestures, soothsayer's words, and majestic raised palms and magic. The girls strained to hear the unheard lines Stevie liked to chant out of range of the microphone."
In revealing detail, Mick chronicles the bands' endless abuse of cocaine and alcohol, adulterous affairs and fornication, as well as physical abuse between Lindsey and Stevie. Mick also discloses to readers that he has dressed in women's clothing since youth.
1981-Stop Dragging My Heart Around duet with Tom Petty; a song about a love affair gone wrong: So you've had a little trouble in town/now you're keeping some demon down/stop dragging my, stop dragging my, stop dragging my heart around. Here we have an actual mention of the word demon, but like most things in the entertainment industry, it goes unnoticed. Many will sing songs not understanding what they are singing or not knowing the words, never fully realizing the overall context of the message.
1981- Edge of Seventeen (Just Like the White Winged Dove) Just like the white winged dove is Stevie's take on the soul when it leaves the body during death. Death is also described in this song as a nightbird that says, "come away." Written in memory of a loved one, it is also in memory of John Lennon. John Lennon wrote the New World Order utopian anthem, "Imagine," which perfectly describes antichrists kingdom living as one (for the first three and a half years).
1982- Fast Times At Ridgemont High- written by Cameron Crowe based on his undercover experience at a California high school. The movie introduces viewers to nudity, cursing, sex, drug use and abortion as normal everyday experiences, hence the title. The film presents a couple of story lines. Although we are lead to believe the movie is about Sean Penn's character, I beg to differ. The real story is about Stacy Hamiliton (played by Jennifer Jason Leigh) who has sex with a fellow classmate, ends up pregnant and has an abortion. Not only does the movie portray having an abortion as something similiar to getting a wart removed and applying a band-aid afterwards, viewers never get to see the deleted 'abortion scene.' As Stacy is laying gowned up and the doctor begins, she nervously asks him if it will hurt as much as havng a baby. The doctor honestly replies no but tells her she would mind less. No wonder they cut the scene!
So, what does any of this have to do with Stevie Nicks? As Stacy is pacing back and forth on the tree lawn waiting for a ride to the abortion clinic from Mike (pictured above), who never shows, viewers are lulled by the song Sleeping Angel by Stevie Nicks .A song about spells, trust issues, and not being able to commit. When this soft hypnotic lullaby begins, one can actually find themselves feeling sorry for this character who is about to murder her baby. As Stevie's music and lyrics clearly state, committment and trust is not to be found, so don't even bother looking: take me if you need me/but never hold me down/ you're asking me to trust you and there's little of that around/ I'm trying to believe you/ and I'm learning all the time/ two part personality/the flower and the vine/ take me sleeping angel/catch me if you can/real love affairs are heavy spells for a woman and a man/ but never take me lightly/for I could never stay/no I could never stay. The power of music in movies can never be underestimated. Producers and directors understand this on a level the average person does not which is why they are skilled at hiring the best in the business to take viewers on a rollercoaster of emotions. The top grossing movies of our time would not be the best sellers they are without the accompanying soundtracks that direct our feelings and responses as they intend. (Though child sacrifice has been with us since the beginning of humanity, it was marketed and made legal by leading global eugenicist Margaret Sanger. To read more about this legal depopulation program started by racists, please see Margaret Sanger article on this blog)
1983 - Interview with MTV's Mark Goodman, Stevie Nicks obviously on drugs and/or alcohol tells him about her being called upon to continue a solo career, though she never names who or what is calling her to do this. She also mentions that she only cares about the fans who can 'read between the lines' concerning her messages, those who can read between the lines will "get it."
1997-Silver Springs - This song was originally to appear on the 1977 Rumours abum, but made it to the B-side of "Go Your Own Way." This song was brought to life at their 1997 reunion concert, The Dance. In what could only be described as accurate concerning Stevie's many failed relationships, she describes the sadness thinking about what could have been, and of course, casting spells: And did you say she was pretty/ And did you say that she loves you/ Baby, I don't wanna know/ And can you tell me was it worth it/ Really, I don't wanna know/Time cast a spell on you, but you won't forget me/ I know I could have loved you, but you would not let me/I'll follow you down til' the sound of my voice will haunt you. In this particular concert, as with others, you can see the pain on Stevie's face as sings these lines to Lindsey. With piercing dagger eyes on him, in a stalkerish kind of way, she never really let go.
2004- In an Australian interview Stevie is asked whether she believes in magic. She responds, "Absolutely."
In a bizarre occult like ritual started about twenty-one years ago called, "Night of a Thousand Stevie's," people dress up every year paying homage to this musical enchantress. Wearing goth gypsy attire, freemason top hats, over done makeup and hair, they mimic and worship Stevie as the goddess they believe her to be.
It is so very obvious who these people serve. Their motto is the famous satanic commandment number one: DO WHAT THOU WILT.
So many people worship these musicians as "gods," bowing down to them in words, lifestyle, clothes and endless praise. Many lost souls even use songs as life defining marker moments; an event forever frozen, entangled in notes. It is sad to say most know more about celebrities than the God who made them and died for them. And what exactly is the public worshipping?
As with many artists, most of their inspiration comes from life experiences. Here we have artists who were killing themselves with drugs and alcohol. Rampant fornication and adulterous affairs were the norm. Sorcery, witchcraft, divination, all things evil forbidden by the LORD GOD are promoted as quite acceptable, even encouraged. Their best known songs came out of their most sinful experiences.
With songs like "Black Magic Woman" (yes, they originally did it) and "Sisters of the Moon", band members reading from and inspired by books on witchcraft, dressing and acting the part of shamans onstage, the message is clear. If the LORD tells us in His Word that fornication is a sin, then why would we watch fornication portrayed on a television show or listen to it in a song? And those who claim Christ, yet play in the devil's backyard by listening to devilish music, need to turn to Scripture. God is very clear: this is a battleground, not a playground.
How can we, as Christians, enjoy the same things that nailed Christ to the cross?
And I can hear many Christians complaining about music nowadays and how bad it is. "But they are good at what they do!"
So was Hitler.
Time is so very short. Believe on the Gospel message and repent. Salvation and repentance go hand in hand. We work from salvation, not for it. The Spirit of God will not strive with satan, sin, and the wicked things of this world.
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish but have everlasting life.
Titus 1:16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.
Matthew 7:21-23 These were professing Christians, people who claimed to know the Lord, but He did not know them.
Hebrews 9:27 And as it appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment.
These people are not serving the LORD. Are you?
:lol::lol::lol:
michelej1
11-04-2013, 02:38 PM
I feel like this writer is actually going through a severe drug withdrawal as she writes this, as seemingly everything connects to drugs in her mind. I guess all of winter is basically a giant coke reference. Because white.
Plus, Stevie has outright snow references that she DID mean to intend drugs. so those would be better examples. But I guess the writer doesn't know those.
Pale shadow. Dragon. Black widow. I don't know what those have to do with witchcraft any more than Bright Silhouette, Dinosaur and brown spider do. I mean, you've got to invoke them to do something evil (or unnatural in God's eyes) for it to be an incantation I think.
Michele
WildHearted
11-04-2013, 02:57 PM
Not to mention that Landslide was written in 1973. Now, I don't believe that Stevie meet saw drugs before FM, but I also doubt she was doing mountains of coke in '73 (mountains of pot, on the other hand...)
michelej1
11-04-2013, 03:05 PM
Not to mention that Landslide was written in 1973. Now, I don't believe that Stevie meet saw drugs before FM, but I also doubt she was doing mountains of coke in '73 (mountains of pot, on the other hand...)
But I think she said Sorcerer did mean coke "in the middle of a snow dream".
Michele
michelej1
11-04-2013, 03:10 PM
GDW, which was written later, when Stevie's life had changed, was listed #6 on Ultimate Classic Rock's Top Ten Drug Songs:
http://ultimateclassicrock.com/drug-songs/
From: 'Rumours' (1977)
Looking back at it, it’s somewhat shocking that Fleewtood Mac's ‘Rumours’ has such a soft-rock reputation. It was recorded by five people who were spiraling out of control in crumbling relationships, personal conflicts and drug abuse. In the album’s closing ‘Gold Dust Woman’, Stevie Nicks tries to make sense of all the emotional chaos and drug use going on around her, emerging with the album's darkest cut.
KarmaContestant
11-04-2013, 05:04 PM
Oh good grief.
What this really drives home is that some people just can't recognize art for what it is - art. They're never content if they can't find some deeper meaning in *everything* to bring meaning to what must be very mundane lives.
This blog just happens to have been written by a born-again Christian (I recognize the schtick from my old neighbors in Michigan, who, when I was a kid, were certain to remind me of all the sin I was floundering in for being a fan of Stevie Nicks and Cyndi Lauper. And Tina Turner.) but the complete lack of grip on reality could be found in any mind.
KarmaContestant
11-04-2013, 05:16 PM
While it is entirely possible that Sara was a real person who inspired Stevie, it is interesting to learn that witches invoke a goddess by the name Sarasvati for poetic inspiration.
:rolleyes:
I'm sure she meant to say Hindus. Not witches. You know, Hindus, who are believers in Hinduism, of which Sarasvati is one of a plethora of deities. There are over a billion of them on Earth. One would think that even the most remote and isolated person (with a blog) would know about Hindus.
The more you know....
:rolleyes:
I'm sure she meant to say Hindus. Not witches. You know, Hindus, who are believers in Hinduism, of which Sarasvati is one of a plethora of deities. There are over a billion of them on Earth. One would think that even the most remote and isolated person (with a blog) would know about Hindus.
:laugh:, Well, I think generally she is talking about Wiccans, who often do draw on many different pantheons, Hinduism included. So she's not technically entirely incorrect, but she is shamelessly skewing the statement. "Hindu" just doesn't sound so scary and demonic as "witch". ;)
Never let the truth get in the way of a good story, and all that.
MoonSister75
11-05-2013, 10:24 AM
Oh for goodness sake, all this talk of Stevie and witchery - what a load of rubbish!:lol:
Oh for goodness sake, all this talk of Stevie and witchery - what a load of rubbish!:lol:
I'm a little jealous! I'd love to have people think I'm a witch, even if I flat-out deny it, on the basis of things like using snow and mirror metaphors in poems, and having a colleague with a mother who was a psychic. I mean, the ability to strike fear into people like that without even trying is pretty immense. :cool:
MoonSister75
11-05-2013, 10:37 AM
I'm a little jealous! I'd love to have people think I'm a witch, even if I flat-out deny it, on the basis of things like using snow and mirror metaphors in poems, and having a colleague with a mother who was a psychic. I mean, the ability to strike fear into people like that without even trying is pretty immense. :cool:
You just need to get yourself a black cat, preferably with green eyes, grow your hair, wear lots of black and remove a couple of teeth - I'm sure you could pull it off. Don't forget to act all mysterious :nod:
You just need to get yourself a black cat, preferably with green eyes, grow your hair, wear lots of black and remove a couple of teeth - I'm sure you could pull it off. Don't forget to act all mysterious :nod:
Then I could say "I'm not a witch! Get a life!" and people would write Christian blogs saying "WELL, he has black clothing and some missing teeth! So."
And people in the comments would go "What a well written and researched blog post! He IS a witch!"
I'm pretty excited for this.
MoonSister75
11-05-2013, 10:57 AM
I do have a black cat with green eyes - maybe you could borrow him. I tried to take a picture of him for the avatar but he wouldn't co-operate, so I had to go to google images. Someone I work with told me I should keep him in on Halloween because she had heard of people killing black cats, because they are associated with witches. Again what a load of rubbish - I've never heard of this anywhere before.
I hope this isn't too much of a deviation from Stevie's witchery topic :confused:
I do have a black cat with green eyes - maybe you could borrow him. I tried to take a picture of him for the avatar but he wouldn't co-operate, so I had to go to google images. Someone I work with told me I should keep him in on Halloween because she had heard of people killing black cats, because they are associated with witches. Again what a load of rubbish - I've never heard of this anywhere before.
I hope this isn't too much of a deviation from Stevie's witchery topic :confused:
Whaaaaat!? Black cats are awesome! I'm amazed there are still people in this world to adhere to such superstitions, but I guess I shouldn't be. After all, I still don't walk under ladders.
But jeesh! Poor cats!
holidayroad
11-05-2013, 11:16 AM
In a bizarre occult like ritual started about twenty-one years ago called, "Night of a Thousand Stevie's," people dress up every year paying homage to this musical enchantress. Wearing goth gypsy attire, freemason top hats, over done makeup and hair, they mimic and worship Stevie as the goddess they believe her to be.
I have honestly been asked by people if I worship Stevie Nicks! I have no idea what people are thinking sometimes!
I have honestly been asked by people if I worship Stevie Nicks! I have no idea what people are thinking sometimes!
OK, yeah, this thread is just getting a bit depressing now.
But I kinda hope you said ":nod:" ;) Might as well have fun messing with them.
seekerj
11-05-2013, 02:01 PM
This article is absolutely hysterical! You mean this wasn't meant as a parody? People really believe this as truth????/ LOL, LMAO!!!!
michelej1
11-05-2013, 02:13 PM
I'm a little jealous! I'd love to have people think I'm a witch, even if I flat-out deny it, on the basis of things like using snow and mirror metaphors in poems, and having a colleague with a mother who was a psychic. I mean, the ability to strike fear into people like that without even trying is pretty immense. :cool:
Is anyone scared of Stevie though? In concert, I'd hate to be doing something forbidden with my camera and have her give me one of her deathchilling looks, but I never thought too much that she might put a curse on me. One time, when I was told to stop taking pictures by security, my camera DID mysteriously disappear, but it was at a Lindsey concert, so Stevie did not make that happen. Unless her powers rubbed off on Lindsey. Maybe they can be transmitted from one person to another through, um, bodily contact.
Michele
KarmaContestant
11-05-2013, 05:44 PM
This one time, in Denver, in 1998, for the Enchanted tour - I swear Stevie made it rain. She was singing Dreams, and of course, when she got to the chorus and sang "thunder only happens when it's raining" I *kid you not* it started to rain. The crowd freaked out, I remember a huge swelling of applause and cheering. It was an ecstatic moment.
Of course, the rain caused some issues. It was an outdoor venue. Stevie complained mildly about the rain, and joked that she didn't "have any powers" or something like that, else she would make the rain stop.
For what it's worth, prayer and magic are one in the same. In one you are expressing desires and hopes to an entity you believe to be separate or above you (existentially above); in the other you are willing the energy within the Universe to accomplish something for you. I'm sure I need not remind anyone that energy is never created or destroyed (law of physics), but only changes form. Both prayer and magic are the manipulation of energy to accomplish your intent. Where you believe that energy to originate is a personal preference. I do believe that someday, both will be viewed in nothing but the most scientific of light.
MoonSister75
11-06-2013, 06:24 AM
For what it's worth, prayer and magic are one in the same. In one you are expressing desires and hopes to an entity you believe to be separate or above you (existentially above); in the other you are willing the energy within the Universe to accomplish something for you. I'm sure I need not remind anyone that energy is never created or destroyed (law of physics), but only changes form. Both prayer and magic are the manipulation of energy to accomplish your intent. Where you believe that energy to originate is a personal preference. I do believe that someday, both will be viewed in nothing but the most scientific of light.
That's a great description - it's similar to what I believe in. I believe there is a lot of power in positive thought and affirmation. Stevie seems to have had some very powerful affirmations - "I'm going to be famous" being one of them.;)
Is anyone scared of Stevie though? In concert, I'd hate to be doing something forbidden with my camera and have her give me one of her deathchilling looks, but I never thought too much that she might put a curse on me. One time, when I was told to stop taking pictures by security, my camera DID mysteriously disappear, but it was at a Lindsey concert, so Stevie did not make that happen. Unless her powers rubbed off on Lindsey. Maybe they can be transmitted from one person to another through, um, bodily contact.
Michele
Well, there's an element of fear inherent in the unflinching belief that someone consorts with demons on a regular basis, sure. Admittedly people who believe that aren't ones who spend much time around Stevie though, so she probably doesn't get to exercise it all that much. I just think being so interesting that some people cannot be convinced that you're not a witch despite endless rational and reasonable argument would be kinda fun.
I like the idea of magical powers transferred through "bodily contact", though... Hm... I still have nothing! I knew I wasn't slutty enough in my youth. ;)
KarmaContestant
11-06-2013, 11:38 AM
I like the idea of magical powers transferred through "bodily contact", though... Hm... I still have nothing! I knew I wasn't slutty enough in my youth. ;)
Hey, you're never to old to absorb more..um...powers, through 'bodily contact'. :lol:
holidayroad
11-06-2013, 11:49 AM
But I kinda hope you said ":nod:" ;) Might as well have fun messing with them.
I have considered saying that I Do worship Stevie, just to see what people would say! :lol:
You just need to get yourself a black cat, preferably with green eyes, grow your hair, wear lots of black and remove a couple of teeth - I'm sure you could pull it off. Don't forget to act all mysterious :nod:
I know what I'm doing this Sunday before I go to church...:lol:
bombaysaffires
11-06-2013, 02:37 PM
I do have a black cat with green eyes - maybe you could borrow him. I tried to take a picture of him for the avatar but he wouldn't co-operate, so I had to go to google images. Someone I work with told me I should keep him in on Halloween because she had heard of people killing black cats, because they are associated with witches. Again what a load of rubbish - I've never heard of this anywhere before.
I hope this isn't too much of a deviation from Stevie's witchery topic :confused:
I own multiple black cats and work in cat rescue and indeed it IS dangerous to let your black cats out around Halloween. Usually moreso because dumbasses think it's funny to snatch them and do horrible things..... There are just so many wackos in the world. I don't let my guys out on Halloween for sure and for a time before that. Actually, I don't let ANY of my cats out on Halloween.
MoonSister75
11-06-2013, 03:52 PM
I own multiple black cats and work in cat rescue and indeed it IS dangerous to let your black cats out around Halloween. Usually moreso because dumbasses think it's funny to snatch them and do horrible things..... There are just so many wackos in the world. I don't let my guys out on Halloween for sure and for a time before that. Actually, I don't let ANY of my cats out on Halloween.
I really had never heard of this. I live in a quiet area with not a lot of Halloween activity, and I'm fairly sure it doesn't happen here. But as you say, it seems like this sort of thing does go on in some places, and can totally understand why you keep your cats in. I feel :sorry: for not believing the girl at work now. I'll have to have another chat to her about it. I was taken aback when she said it, as it sounded a bit far fetched.
michelej1
11-06-2013, 08:01 PM
Well, there's an element of fear inherent in the unflinching belief that someone consorts with demons on a regular basis, sure.
Well, I'm sure there's a certain mystique about someone rumored to be a witch, but the first time you see them laughing over a singing fish, the illusion is completely ruined.
Michele
tlssln
11-06-2013, 08:37 PM
Well, admittedly, I didn't read this whole thing because I got the gist of where it was going a paragraph or two in, so I just skimmed.
But I have to say that I honestly find this kind of stuff laughable.
There's a million terrible things in the world that you could blog about to turn into a life/religious lesson, and you choose freaking Stevie Nicks? On the basis of exaggerated and/or off base interpretations, none the less.
Well said. People are so ridiculous. At least he/she admitted Stevie can actually sing. LOL.
vivfox
11-06-2013, 08:52 PM
Well, I'm sure there's a certain mystique about someone rumored to be a witch, but the first time you see them laughing over a singing fish, the illusion is completely ruined.
ROTFL. Michele, have you taken your act to the comedy club yet? If they were all fans of FM they'd get the humor. You're good.And when you were good, you were very, very good.
Macfanforever
11-06-2013, 11:58 PM
I love that singing fish video.
Maybe she could have it programmed to sing her tunes.
I think Stevie and Mick could do a comedy act on the tele.
It would be very entertaining funny and 100 percent better then those boring sitcoms and reality shows we see on TV today.
OK friends do tell me that I worship Stevie and FM.
Please dont hurt those cats or any animals to that matter.
chiliD
11-07-2013, 01:37 PM
Is anyone scared of Stevie though? In concert, I'd hate to be doing something forbidden with my camera and have her give me one of her deathchilling looks, but I never thought too much that she might put a curse on me. One time, when I was told to stop taking pictures by security, my camera DID mysteriously disappear, but it was at a Lindsey concert, so Stevie did not make that happen. Unless her powers rubbed off on Lindsey. Maybe they can be transmitted from one person to another through, um, bodily contact.Michele
Ever see the Denzel Washington/John Goodman movie Fallen? :shrug:
'Nuff said.
"Tiiiiime...is on my side. Yes, it is!"
michelej1
11-07-2013, 01:44 PM
Ever see the Denzel Washington/John Goodman movie Fallen? :shrug:
'Nuff said.
No, but I saw them together in Flight. I may check out Fallen if it has a paranormal angle to it. I like that.
Michele
singertobe
11-16-2013, 02:53 AM
As a Christian teenager these rumors embaress me. They're giving us a bad name. Seriously!
singertobe
11-16-2013, 03:03 AM
And furthermore, Jesus had told us to spread love. Not fear. All these so-called Christians are doing is spreading fear and passing judgment on a stranger. I wanna know why this woman isn't using her spare time helping her church's local charity. Maybe volunteering at a soup kitchen. What would Jesus do? He wouldn't be doing this!!!
singertobe
11-16-2013, 03:12 AM
Jesus freaks really seem to hate her. Reminds me of this:
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I will never understand why the jesus freaks don't just go after the true things. Sex, drugs, abortions, adultery, etc etc. They preach about the witch thing, the one thing that isn't actually true. :rolleyes:
I actually just made a thread venting about this video. I was the first to comment on that and I ended up removing it after having a big argument with the uploader. Did you comment on it or anything? And what about that user who goes by the name "Beautiful Child"? She's made several comments on there trying to say she broke out of Stevie's brainwashing spell:lol:
iamnotafraid
11-16-2013, 04:09 AM
I will never understand why the jesus freaks don't just go after the true things. Sex, drugs, abortions, adultery, etc etc. They preach about the witch thing, the one thing that isn't actually true. :rolleyes:
That term is so offensive.
It's interesting and sad to see how these threads
continue to put down Christians. Notice?
What was originally written had a bit of truth in it.
Although some of the interpretations of the songs
seemed a bit of a stretch. Among a few other things.
I hope Stevie hasn't actually dabbled in witchcraft.
I always thought/hoped that she just conveniently
used it, or the image of it to be mysterious.
I had always wondered what "mirror in the sky" meant
(not that the meaning was correctly identified by the poster).
I don't know how anyone of any spiritual belief can't
feel the hypnotic or spiritual vibe you get from
the songs Rhiannon and Sisters Of The Moon.
Even a few of Peter Green's songs have that sort of
thing going on.
You have the choice not to believe in Christ and what
He did for you. And you also have the choice of not going
along with the group and putting down all Christians.
MoonSister75
11-16-2013, 04:52 AM
Its sad when the actions of a few, result in giving a whole group a bad name. I very much agree that term is offensive. I guess people end up getting so annoyed that they say things like that.
Stevie has stated so many times she believes there is a god. To me, this is what "mirror in the sky" is. She is putting her question "What is Love?" to a greater spiritual entity (only my interpretation). She seems to be a very spiritual person, so it is annoying that some Christians end up stirring up all this negativity about her.
I think its really good to remember its just a few, not all Christians that believe this about Stevie.
KarmaContestant
11-18-2013, 12:03 PM
I had always wondered what "mirror in the sky" meant
(not that the meaning was correctly identified by the poster).
Perhaps it's about self-reflection. Haven't we all gazed at the sky at some point in life, thinking about our lives...our loves, reflecting on where we've been and where we'll go, and what we'll do to be better and do better? Mirror in the sky, what is love? Can the child within my heart rise above? It's just a simple song lyric. For that blog writer to find mystery, the supernatural or something anti-Christian in a lyric about something as human as looking at the sky while feeling contemplative... Well, it's silly at best.
Macfanforever
11-19-2013, 01:27 PM
I wonder what they think of Stevie's Silent Night.
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I'msoAfraid95
11-19-2013, 01:33 PM
I wonder what they think of Stevie's Silent Night.
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She must have some satanic reason for singing that song. Perhaps she's thanking Lucifer for her voice? :p
GoldDustBoy
11-19-2013, 02:53 PM
Perhaps it's about self-reflection. Haven't we all gazed at the sky at some point in life, thinking about our lives...our loves, reflecting on where we've been and where we'll go, and what we'll do to be better and do better? Mirror in the sky, what is love? Can the child within my heart rise above? It's just a simple song lyric. For that blog writer to find mystery, the supernatural or something anti-Christian in a lyric about something as human as looking at the sky while feeling contemplative... Well, it's silly at best.
Or perhaps she is reffering to the snow covered hills.
And I saw my reflection in the snow covered hills...
BlueDenimLamp
11-19-2013, 03:13 PM
Or perhaps she is reffering to the snow covered hills.
And I saw my reflection in the snow covered hills...
OMG! A Stevie Nicks lyric that actually is what it seems to be...No codes or hidden meanings...Say it isn't so... :eek:
She wrote the song in Aspen staring at the "snow covered hills" And she says she was doing a lot of "reflecting" at the time about what she wanted to do with her life...
Sounds fairly simple to me but if the Bible thumpers want to come up with a meaning that fits their needs then...Whatever:shrug:
KarmaContestant
11-19-2013, 04:14 PM
Or perhaps she is reffering to the snow covered hills. And I saw my reflection in the snow covered hills...
Perhaps, but it was my understanding that snow covered hills are not what's being questioned here. The issue was whether "mirror in the sky" was a reference to some non-Christain entity. :rolleyes:
But yes, absolutely - living in Colorado, I can tell you that indeed sometimes when you look at the sun reflecting off of the mountains, the light can reflect back at you like a mirror.
seekerj
11-19-2013, 04:24 PM
Perhaps, but it was my understanding that snow covered hills are not what's being questioned here. The issue was whether "mirror in the sky" was a reference to some non-Christain entity. :rolleyes:
But yes, absolutely - living in Colorado, I can tell you that indeed sometimes when you look at the sun reflecting off of the mountains, the light can reflect back at you like a mirror.
Which is just really funny since this is one of her few lyrics that just says what it means! She climbed up high, looked at the snow, and saw her reflection. She calls the snow a "mirror" because the snow is reflective, and it's a mirror "in the sky" because she climbed up into the mountains. It's that simple. But, as far as that person who came up with that interpretation, well, I guess you can see "evil" anywhere you want to if you try.
GoldDustBoy
11-19-2013, 11:13 PM
Which is just really funny since this is one of her few lyrics that just says what it means! She climbed up high, looked at the snow, and saw her reflection. She calls the snow a "mirror" because the snow is reflective, and it's a mirror "in the sky" because she climbed up into the mountains. It's that simple. But, as far as that person who came up with that interpretation, well, I guess you can see "evil" anywhere you want to if you try.
My point exactly. Landslide is far less abstract then most of her songs, and I think its clear the high frosted mountains reaching the sky are the mirror. She already said she saw her reflection in them for gods sake. :LOL: On the other hand, I find those fanatics bizarre to say the least. Why on earth would you spend your time and energy investigating and obsessing over something you hate? Isn't religion supposed to bring you inner peace and harmony? Aren't Christians supposed to love everybody, even their enemies? And I don't see how the hell could Stevie be any kind of an enemy or threat to Christianity. Does anybody really believe that there are witches out there casting spells to change the course of events and twist the free will of other people while summoning demons? Stevie built a fairytale world around her from which she obviously drains inspiration and creativity, and that's it. Millions of fans know how to appreciate that, and I've never heard of anyone of them skinning a cat in an occult ritual. I am an atheist, and will be one until there's any proof any evidence to back up religions fantastical claims, which we all know ain't gonna happen. Having said that, I completely respect anyone's choice to practice any religion. We all have our defensive mechanisms to cope with life, which isn't easy, and who am I to try to convince somebody their ways are wrong if it works for them, just because they are different then mine. I have a lot of Christian and Muslim friends which I respect and love dearly. We agree to disagree on that subject, and that's it. They know they can't change my mind, and I know I can't change theirs. What I do have a problem with are fanatics showing their believes down everybody throat, acting as it is time to bring back the Spanish inquisition, viciously undermining anyone who doesn't share their opinions.
seekerj
11-20-2013, 09:31 AM
My point exactly. Landslide is far less abstract then most of her songs, and I think its clear the high frosted mountains reaching the sky are the mirror. She already said she saw her reflection in them for gods sake. :LOL: On the other hand, I find those fanatics bizarre to say the least. Why on earth would you spend your time and energy investigating and obsessing over something you hate? Isn't religion supposed to bring you inner peace and harmony? Aren't Christians supposed to love everybody, even their enemies? And I don't see how the hell could Stevie be any kind of an enemy or threat to Christianity. Does anybody really believe that there are witches out there casting spells to change the course of events and twist the free will of other people while summoning demons? Stevie built a fairytale world around her from which she obviously drains inspiration and creativity, and that's it. Millions of fans know how to appreciate that, and I've never heard of anyone of them skinning a cat in an occult ritual. I am an atheist, and will be one until there's any proof any evidence to back up religions fantastical claims, which we all know ain't gonna happen. Having said that, I completely respect anyone's choice to practice any religion. We all have our defensive mechanisms to cope with life, which isn't easy, and who am I to try to convince somebody their ways are wrong if it works for them, just because they are different then mine. I have a lot of Christian and Muslim friends which I respect and love dearly. We agree to disagree on that subject, and that's it. They know they can't change my mind, and I know I can't change theirs. What I do have a problem with are fanatics showing their believes down everybody throat, acting as it is time to bring back the Spanish inquisition, viciously undermining anyone who doesn't share their opinions.
Wow, I couldn't agree more. For a second there, I thought maybe I wrote this! Really, it's just all about respect.
vivfox
11-20-2013, 09:54 AM
Someone should send the church a picture of Stevie circa 1990 with a cross around her neck.
Macfanforever
11-20-2013, 10:56 AM
Someone should send the church a picture of Stevie circa 1990 with a cross around her neck.
I agree on that.
BlueDenimLamp
11-20-2013, 11:19 AM
Like this one :nod:
vivfox
11-20-2013, 11:25 AM
Like this one :nod:
Yes. Like that one.
wheart
11-20-2013, 12:34 PM
Like this one :nod:
yes, she's looking quite satantic...can't everybody see it? :p
MoonSister75
11-20-2013, 01:11 PM
I'm fascinated by Stevie's use of witch imagery in her music and performance. It seems that what has caused the anger and hatred towards Stevie over the years, is the perception of a witch as evil. Many of the women that were killed in the witch hunts centuries ago were innocent but labelled at evil witches. Some of them were just practising herbal medicine, or had pagan beliefs, and its likely that very few of them (if any) were worshiping the idea of Satan. There is so much fear and myth surrounding the idea of a witch. It seems more likely to me, that many witches in history were trying to be healers, rather than devil worshippers. :shocked:
becca
11-20-2013, 01:28 PM
I've looked at the modern wiccan movement in terms of personal empowerment rather than cartoony demon worshipping evil casters of spells. The term wicca meant knowledge in old celtic I think or something like that. Witches in European history have tended to be older or marginalized women who were inheritors of herbal and medicinal plant lore not covered in the christian bible.
Rhainnon specifically was a character in the Welsh books of Mabinoginon or some such. I remember having all the Evangeline Walton paperbacks of the early '70s although truthfully not being able to plow through all of them at that age. The Rhiannon song was the bomb in 1975-76! There was also an Eagles song Witchy Woman that was also popular. Female audio empowerment, and very cool!
There was an element of this in British Folk-rock of the '70s with Steeleye Span, Archie Fisher, Fairport Convention and Sandy Denny drawing on past myths and legends including witchery. It made me want to embrace my inner witch and accept personal power, to seek wisdom. I've lately become very interested in African santaria and Haitian voodoo... it's all part of the variety of human history so why reject or judge when you can learn and possibly grow?
I will embrace being a Jesus freak too because he is recorded to have said many things that challenge and expand, it's there for all with eyes to read so why reject it if you don't have to? I find the wisdom and value it and grow with it. I love the words of Jesus and will never outgrow them not try to limit their importance. It is however a very personal conversation and any public show is to be made with caution and care.
becca
11-20-2013, 01:35 PM
I'm fascinated by Stevie's use of witch imagery in her music and performance. It seems that what has caused the anger and hatred towards Stevie over the years, is the perception of a witch as evil. Many of the women that were killed in the witch hunts centuries ago were innocent but labelled at evil witches. Some of them were just practising herbal medicine, or had pagan beliefs, and its likely that very few of them (if any) were worshiping the idea of Satan. There is so much fear and myth surrounding the idea of a witch. It seems more likely to me, that many witches in history were trying to be healers, rather than devil worshippers. :shocked:
Christianity has been a double edged sword by it's own admission. So much European pre-christian belief has been lost because of it's imposition (despite the book itself saying it should not be imposed). We need to learn from history and preserve the Native American languages and beliefs still. There are people in the musical community here in western Canada now doing this and it's an honor to know some of them.
I read a book titled Witchcraze about the dark period of murdering people labelled witches in Europe. Holland managed to find it's way out of it fairly quickly through a new understanding of the bible in line with the protestant revolution and that is the church I have roots in. The Netherlands have been a beacon of tolerance at times which has inspired other nations and it began in that dark religiously fanatical period.
MoonSister75
11-20-2013, 01:37 PM
That was really interesting - thank you. My knowledge of witches, wicca etc is limited but its a very interesting topic. :)
Nathan
11-20-2013, 11:40 PM
That term is so offensive.
It's interesting and sad to see how these threads
continue to put down Christians. Notice?
What was originally written had a bit of truth in it.
And you also have the choice of not going
along with the group and putting down all Christians.
Good post. What a popular bandwagon that is to get on.
I also think there is an element of truth, at least, in the rumors.
Nathan
11-20-2013, 11:42 PM
She must have some satanic reason for singing that song. Perhaps she's thanking Lucifer for her voice? :p
Perhaps people take things too literally and too much at face value.
Take a page from Stevie's book and consider the symbolism she uses.
Worshipful Master top hat, anyone?? :shrug:
Nathan
11-20-2013, 11:43 PM
She must have some satanic reason for singing that song. Perhaps she's thanking Lucifer for her voice? :p
Perhaps people (in general) take things too literally and too much at face value.
Take a page from Stevie's book and consider the symbolism she uses.
Worshipful Master top hat, anyone?? :shrug:
I'msoAfraid95
11-21-2013, 12:04 AM
Perhaps people take things too literally and too much at face value.
Take a page from Stevie's book and consider the symbolism she uses.
Worshipful Master top hat, anyone?? :shrug:
My comment was meant as joke, poking fun at those who actually believe in those things.
Nathan
11-21-2013, 12:07 AM
My comment was meant as joke, poking fun at those who actually believe in those things.
Fair enough, yours was just the one that caught my eye. Like I said, 'in general.'
Nathan
11-21-2013, 12:09 AM
I'm a little jealous! I'd love to have people think I'm a witch, even if I flat-out deny it, on the basis of things like using snow and mirror metaphors in poems, and having a colleague with a mother who was a psychic. :cool:
If you had a Grammy and millions of dollars and a career built, in part, around occult imagery and language.....maybe they would.
:shrug:
BombaySapphire3
11-21-2013, 01:30 AM
I think that people are forgetting that Stevie actually admitted that she was a witch in the 1970s and then when MTV interviewed her in 1983 and stated to her "you once said you were a witch"she responded " I lied".
GoldDustBoy
11-22-2013, 05:30 PM
I think that people are forgetting that Stevie actually admitted that she was a witch in the 1970s and then when MTV interviewed her in 1983 and stated to her "you once said you were a witch"she responded " I lied".
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singertobe
12-03-2013, 04:28 AM
Whoa! What?! There's no mirrors in the sky?!:eek: You're kidding! What are you gonna tell me next? Is there also no such thing as the tooth fairy?:shocked: Is the second star to the right not really a magical land where you never grow up?!:eek:
BlueDenimLamp
12-04-2013, 10:52 AM
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I wish these people would get it right...Stevie's not a witch she's a Voodoo Priestess...
I think that people are forgetting that Stevie actually admitted that she was a witch in the 1970s and then when MTV interviewed her in 1983 and stated to her "you once said you were a witch"she responded " I lied".
I suppose I need the source and full context, as I'm really unfamiliar with that. But it doesn't seem very incriminating to me to jokingly state you're a witch and then take it back a decade later when everyone is freaking out at you. That actually seems rather normal behaviour to me.
Macfanforever
12-04-2013, 12:49 PM
http://i1361.photobucket.com/albums/r663/Nicksiannation/IYD_zpsf8ba5c04.png
I wish these people would get it right...Stevie's not a witch she's a Voodoo Priestess...
She would make a great comic.LOL.....
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