Poll for definitive FM songs from 1970-1974

[applebucked]

I noticed that there are best of collections for both the Peter Green era and the Buckingham Nicks era, but none for the eras between Kiln House and Heroes. What so you think of the idea of selecting 18-20 songs from Kiln House, Future Games, Bare Trees, Penguin, Mystery to Me, and Heroes are Hard to Find albums, plus any B-sides and non album releases via a series of polls and create our own "best of" of sorts?

[Wendy Welch]

In response to the last post, I have always wanted that and most of all Bob wanted it. See what you can do to make it happen. Fleetwood Mac Won't work with me because I have worked so hard to get Bob inducted to the RRHOF so they have deleted him comlpletely from those years. I personally think it is cruel and vindictive, but you can think what you want. I just don't get it. They don't have to like me, but they should all care about Bob Welch and the true "CHAIN" and the true history of FM without deleting so many years that got them where they are today. <3

[applebucked]

In response to the last post, I have always wanted that and most of all Bob wanted it. See what you can do to make it happen. Fleetwood Mac Won't work with me because I have worked so hard to get Bob inducted to the RRHOF so they have deleted him comlpletely from those years. I personally think it is cruel and vindictive, but you can think what you want. I just don't get it. They don't have to like me, but they should all care about Bob Welch and the true "CHAIN" and the true history of FM without deleting so many years that got them where they are today. <3
Thank you for your message, Wendy. Unfortunately, I can't really do anything about getting an official release since I am simply a fan, but I can at least fill that hole that was missing in terms of getting a condensed representation of these eras, which are sadly very often overlooked in FM's history. Honestly, I think it's criminal that Bob wasn't inducted (and as a huge, huge Christine fan, saddened and disappointed when I found out she had a major role on this outcome) in the RRHOF, and is overlooked in the band's history.

My main goal with these polls is to determine what songs define this era, and allows people to fill the missing gap.

[holidayroad]

Songs I think are definitive of this era:

(Edit) When I made my list, I thought the dates were from 1971-1974. From Kiln House, I'd include

Jewel Eyed Judy
Tell Me All the Things You Do

Future Games
Sands Of Time
Show Me a Smile
The Ghost
Sentimental Lady
Spare Me a Little of Your Love
Dust
Remember Me
Revelation
Did You Ever Love Me
Emerald Eyes
Just Crazy Love
Hypnotized
The Way I Feel
Why
Angel
Bermuda Triangle
Come A Little Bit Closer
Silver Heels
Prove Your Love

[applebucked]

^ That's quite a good list you've got there. Got most of it in my own personal list myself. :D Others may think differently, though. Which is why I'm suggesting polls like we did in the Christine board.

[MacShadowsBall]

Where on earth did you get this awesome idea from? ;)

Sounds great! I hope lots from Bare Trees and Mystery to Me qualify. :cool:

[HomerMcvie]

Where on earth did you get this awesome idea from? ;)

Sounds great! I hope lots from Bare Trees and Mystery to Me qualify. :cool:

Me too! I love the idea, too!

[chiliD]

My list:
(if we're starting with Kiln House...)


Disc 1:
Station Man
Hi Ho Silver
Jewel-Eyed Judy
Buddy's Song
Tell Me All The Things You Do
Dragonfly
Woman Of 1000 Years
Future Games
Sands Of Time
Show Me a Smile
Child Of Mine
Sentimental Lady
Spare Me a Little of Your Love
Dust
Sunny Side Of Heaven


Disc 2:
Dissatisfied
Nightwatch
Remember Me
Revelation
Emerald Eyes
Believe Me
Hypnotized
Miles Away
Why
Heroes Are Hard To Find
Angel
Bermuda Triangle
Come A Little Bit Closer
She's Changing Me
Safe Harbour

[moon]

A "definitive" collection with songs from these years is a very good idea, but there's some songs from Kiln House and Future Games that I don't know well!!
Here's my list

01. This is the rock
02. Station Man
03. Woman of 1000 years
04. Future Games
05. Child of Mine
06. Sunny Side of Heaven
07. The Ghost
08. Sunny Side of Heaven
09. Sentimental Lady
10. Spare me a little
11. Remember Me
12. Bright Fire
13. Caught in the Rain
14. Hypnotized
15. Forever
16. Heroes are hard to find
17. Coming Home
18. Angel
19. Come A Little Bit Closer
20. Safe Harbour

[chiliD]

But, the more I think about it...it's really tough to leave anything out. (well, except for Mrs Scarrott's poem :lol: and "(I'm A) Roadrunner" )

From Kiln House to Heroes Are Hard To Find there's really not (other than the two mentioned above) a track that I think is NOT "definitive". :shrug: :nod:

[sharksfan2000]

I really wasn't planning to enter into this discussion, but I had two comments...

First of all, I like your list a lot, chiliD - and I like the way you've organized and sequenced the tracks.

Second, two additions that I'd toss in - a couple of relative rarities that I think are worthy of inclusion, "The Purple Dancer" and "Trinity".

[applebucked]

Where on earth did you get this awesome idea from? ;)

Sounds great! I hope lots from Bare Trees and Mystery to Me qualify. :cool:
From awesome people. ;) Okay, I wanted to make a sort of "best of" for my personal playlist then thought of the Christine songs poll you did and voila.

But, the more I think about it...it's really tough to leave anything out. (well, except for Mrs Scarrott's poem :lol: and "(I'm A) Roadrunner" )

From Kiln House to Heroes Are Hard To Find there's really not (other than the two mentioned above) a track that I think is NOT "definitive". :shrug: :nod:
And based on the songs lists posted, we really need a poll. I see some common ones, but there are so many different variations and so many great songs in there. :laugh: Actually, my personal list is sort of close to yours, Chili. Just a few differences.

I really wasn't planning to enter into this discussion, but I had two comments...

First of all, I like your list a lot, chiliD - and I like the way you've organized and sequenced the tracks.

Second, two additions that I'd toss in - a couple of relative rarities that I think are worthy of inclusion, "The Purple Dancer" and "Trinity".
Coincidentally, I have both those songs on my personal list. :thumbsup:

And from the looks of it, I don't think 20 songs are enough (my list is a 2CD one myself). I should expand this to a double disc. :laugh:

[Wouter Vuijk]

From awesome people. ;) Okay, I wanted to make a sort of "best of" for my personal playlist then thought of the Christine songs poll you did and voila.


And based on the songs lists posted, we really need a poll. I see some common ones, but there are so many different variations and so many great songs in there. :laugh: Actually, my personal list is sort of close to yours, Chili. Just a few differences.


Coincidentally, I have both those songs on my personal list. :thumbsup:

And from the looks of it, I don't think 20 songs are enough (my list is a 2CD one myself). I should expand this to a double disc. :laugh:
Wouldn't it be easier to make a list of songs NOT to be included? ;)

[Dex]

I've wanted this for ages, too. It's ridiculous how such a long period of FM history has become so difficult to access in all ways. No iTunes, no Spotify, rarely a place at my local store. And frankly, many the Welch-era albums are filled with lows as well as highs, so grouping all the highs together would be a great way to get more listeners into things. :)

I think hypothetically there should be a one-disc edition as well as a two-disc, for accessibility. The casual listener would probably find the former less intimidating and be more likely to pick it up and sink his/her teeth into it.

Or maybe 2 discs separately? Perhaps both a "basics" and a "deeper cuts" disc, so you could get one or both?

[applebucked]

I've wanted this for ages, too. It's ridiculous how such a long period of FM history has become so difficult to access in all ways. No iTunes, no Spotify, rarely a place at my local store. And frankly, many the Welch-era albums are filled with lows as well as highs, so grouping all the highs together would be a great way to get more listeners into things. :)

I think hypothetically there should be a one-disc edition as well as a two-disc, for accessibility. The casual listener would probably find the former less intimidating and be more likely to pick it up and sink his/her teeth into it.

Or maybe 2 discs separately? Perhaps both a "basics" and a "deeper cuts" disc, so you could get one or both?
I was thinking the same thing as well. :nod: One for the "basics" and one for those who want to sink their teeth deeper.

[chiliD]

And frankly, many the Welch-era albums are filled with lows as well as highs...

Could you be more specific? Because I'm at a loss at what exactly the "lows" are. :shrug: (other than my two examples above, that is)

[Mr Scarrott]

Trying to get the essence of this period onto one 80 minute CD is pretty infuriating. Here's my take, for what it's worth. Maybe it's a little bit on the safe side, I don't know, and I've employed my "no consecutive tracks by the same lead" rule . I always like to listen to this kind of thing with a 10-second crossfade. Pleasingly, I've managed to give Bob (23'21), Chris (22' 10")and Danny (21'34" excluding Purple Dancer) pretty much equal space . I had to include Dragonfly, even though it already was on the Greatest Hits album, and I think there's an iron law of nature that commands that Why has to end it...

Child of Mine
Show Me a Smile
Hypnotized
Woman of 1000 years
Emerald Eyes
Did You Ever Love Me
Mission Bell
Dust
Caught in the Rain
Safe Harbour
Spare Me a Little of Your Love
Trinity
Remember Me
Purple Dancer
Bermuda Triangle
Heroes are Hard to Find
This is the Rock
Dragonfly
Future Games
Why


Just noticed after all these years, Hypnotized is the American spelling, Safe Harbour, the British. Usual Mac sloppiness, I wonder, or something else? It never was Rumors after all.

[chiliD]

Just noticed after all these years, Hypnotized is the American spelling, Safe Harbour, the British. Usual Mac sloppiness, I wonder, or something else? It never was Rumors after all.

My theory is that, of course, Bob titled it "Hypnotized" (Bob being an American, obviously, gave it the American spelling).

The instrumental (or ALMOST an instrumental, anyway) "Safe Harbour" might have been given its title by one of the British members of the band, hence the British spelling. Or, nobody actually titled it, but when they needed to slap a name to it for the album cover & copyrighting, Mick probably scribbled down the title for the graphics people & the legal folk.

It's well-known Fleetwood Mac lore that John McVie gave the Rumours album its title, so therefore, the British spelling.

[doodyhead]

My favorite from that period was not mentioned*. I assume because it was not on an album


Draagonfly



*My apologies. to Mr Scarrott. A Dragonfly supporter preceded me. and I agree

[applebucked]

Can anyone enumerate the non-album songs from this era for me so I can start making the polls?

[MacShadowsBall]

Let me see what I can do for you, applebucked. :cool:

Well, I'm not that aware of the non-album songs besides "Dragonfly", "Purple Dancer", and the outtake from Bare Trees "Trinity".

[chiliD]

My favorite from that period was not mentioned*. I assume because it was not on an album


Draagonfly



*My apologies. to Mr Scarrott. A Dragonfly supporter preceded me. and I agree

Vinnie...go back & look again at reply #8 ;)

[applebucked]

Let me see what I can do for you, applebucked. :cool:

Well, I'm not that aware of the non-album songs besides "Dragonfly", "Purple Dancer", and the outtake from Bare Trees "Trinity".
Thanks! :D I placed Dragonfly and Purple Dance under Kiln House, and Trinity under Bare Trees

I created the official thread for the polls over here.
http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=52837

[doodyhead]

My list:
(if we're starting with Kiln House...)


Disc 1:
Station Man
Hi Ho Silver
Jewel-Eyed Judy
Buddy's Song
Tell Me All The Things You Do
Dragonfly
Woman Of 1000 Years
Future Games
Sands Of Time
Show Me a Smile
Child Of Mine
Sentimental Lady
Spare Me a Little of Your Love
Dust
Sunny Side Of Heaven


Disc 2:
Dissatisfied
Nightwatch
Remember Me
Revelation
Emerald Eyes
Believe Me
Hypnotized
Miles Away
Why
Heroes Are Hard To Find
Angel
Bermuda Triangle
Come A Little Bit Closer
She's Changing Me
Safe Harbour

Thanks for pointing that out. my friend. I sometimes miss the things right in front of me, I got three years to go to find out the answer,

with all respect,

doodyhead

[He's So Unusual]

My compilation would include:


CD 1

1. Woman of 1000 Years
2. Hypnotized
3. Spare me a Little of Your Love
4. Remember Me
5. Emerald Eyes
6. Heroes Are Hard to Find
7. Child of Mine
8. Forever
9. Sentimental Lady
10. Keep on Going
11. Morning Rain
12. Tell Me All the Things You Do
13. Danny's Chant
14. Prove Your Love
15. Dust
16. Safe Harbour



CD 2

1. Station Man
2. Lay It All Down
3. Just Crazy love
4. She's Changing Me
5. Night Watch
6. Future Games
7. Jewel Eyed Judy
8. Did You Ever Love Me
9. Silver Heels
10. For Your Love
11. Come in a Little Bit Closer
12. The Derelict
13. Dragonfly
14. Sands of Time
15. Bermuda Triangle
16. Why

[becca]

I once made up individual 'best ofs' for three members including Bob, and mostly from this period, for some friends who didn't know of much before the 1975 album. I don't know, I can see a purpose to pulling the Danny or Bob written songs together from a bunch of sources, but a 'best of' for the Kiln House to Heroes run seems uninspiring... who here wouldn't just want them all? The Mrs. Scarrot recitation is the one and only inessential thing to me.

[Montclare]

My "Greatest Middle Years" CD-

Purple Dancer
This Is the Rock
Station Man
Hi Ho Silver
Earl Grey
One Together
Tell Me All the Things You Do
Sometimes
Lay It All Down
Child of Mine
Spare Me a Little
Remember Me
Hypnotized
Forever
The City
Miles Away
Somebody
Why
Heroes Are Hard to Find
Come a Little Bit Closer

Lots of Kiln House and MTM for me. :nod: