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elle
09-20-2013, 04:36 PM
if this tweet is correct. she would be on stage for the start of the encores.

@jerkbenedict
Christine on stage!!!! #fleetwoodmac

CADreaming
09-20-2013, 04:38 PM
Exciting!!!

Edit : there are mixed reports - they may have announced she will perform with them tomorrow and/or she was spotted at the show.

It does seem it was being filmed though.

elle
09-20-2013, 04:49 PM
Exciting!!!

if true. :shrug:

CADreaming
09-20-2013, 04:50 PM
if true. :shrug:

Yeah, can't wait for a recap.

iamnotafraid
09-20-2013, 04:54 PM
It does seem it was being filmed though.


Seem??????

CADreaming
09-20-2013, 05:01 PM
Seem??????

Someone said they were bumped up because they had cameras in their seats.

CADreaming
09-20-2013, 05:02 PM
Christine is not in the encore pic

Deeshere
09-20-2013, 05:13 PM
Here are some pictures of the show I pulled off instagram and twitter :

https://twitter.com/orinmurphy/status/381107549220507649/photo/1

http://instagram.com/p/eflYlqrqdO/

https://twitter.com/jillkeene/status/381144227637239808/photo/1

https://twitter.com/karlingtonghost/status/381158679044575232/photo/1

https://twitter.com/ParkerBowless/status/381178230914306049/photo/1

pic of final bow - no Christine in the picture

https://twitter.com/Irishfunerals/status/381175887921545216/photo/1

elle
09-20-2013, 05:16 PM
definitive info now - Christine was not up on the stage.

CADreaming
09-20-2013, 05:23 PM
And per the tweet I just received - she was not mentioned.

Deeshere
09-20-2013, 05:39 PM
Here are some more pictures:

https://twitter.com/emjc29/status/381182312093716480/photo/1

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151704839964092&set=a.374792509091.155370.252319114091&type=1&theater

http://www.goldenplec.com/fleetwood-mac-o2-photos/

http://www.kieranfrost.com/fleetwood-mac/

michelej1
09-20-2013, 07:04 PM
I wonder how Stevie's WY story is going to change with Christine around. She will probably say a little more about her, before she thanks John, I would think in the London shows.

Michele

elle
09-20-2013, 07:51 PM
I wonder how Stevie's WY story is going to change with Christine around. She will probably say a little more about her, before she thanks John, I would think in the London shows.

Michele

dream on.

they didn't do Oh Well although according to Mick that was gonna happen for sure. same old setlist. :rolleyes:

so who knows whether Christine's gonna happen either. :shrug:

i'm always disappointed on their first night, then i learn to adjust my expectations really really low.

if nothing different happens second day in Dublin....... :distress:

michelej1
09-20-2013, 07:57 PM
dream on.

they didn't do Oh Well although according to Mick that was gonna happen for sure. same old setlist. :rolleyes:

so who knows whether Christine's gonna happen either. :shrug:


No one thought that Christine was going to happen in Dublin, did they? I don't expect her there and I don't expect her Tuesday. I just expect her Wednesday and Friday.

Great news about Oh Well ;).

Michele

michelej1
09-20-2013, 07:58 PM
I want to hear the WY intro for tonight. CAD says Christine wasn't mentioned from the feedback she's gotten, but I have to think her name was said, just one little itsy bitsy time.

Michele

CADreaming
09-20-2013, 09:18 PM
I want to hear the WY intro for tonight. CAD says Christine wasn't mentioned from the feedback she's gotten, but I have to think her name was said, just one little itsy bitsy time.

Michele

Yeah, I was surprised at that too because there were several tweets saying she's singing "tomorrow". :shrug:

I agree though, I didn't expect her in Dublin but thought it was possible if she was rehearsing with them there. She'll definitely be at the two London shows they have mentioned though. (Unless something happens).

Elle, you should know better than to think they would change that set list. Lol.

bethelblues
09-20-2013, 09:44 PM
I'm also disappointed Oh Well didn't make it. Wow, they miss so many possibilities they should be capitalizing on. This same set will probably be used for 50th anniversary celebrations too, without even paying homage to Green (the wonderful wonderful Albatross going neglected for way too long), Welch, and Christine. Watch them pass over playing Glastonbury, the largest music festival in the world.

In other news, the entire stage made it, right? The overhead "heater" platforms they had some trouble with are visible in pictures.

vivfox
09-20-2013, 10:01 PM
In other news, the entire stage made it, right? The overhead "heater" platforms they had some trouble with are visible in pictures.

I don't know. During the song, Gypsy posted here:http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=52657
I can clearly see the video montage being played behind a curtain. I can't imagine why it is blocked.

SpyNote
09-20-2013, 10:07 PM
Christine was in Dublin because Stevie and Mick said that she was going to be there for rehearsals. They also said that she would be performing in London, not Dublin.

Only one person actually tweeted "Christine McVie!" which seemed a little strange. If she were actually onstage, you'd think that everyone would be tweeting at that point. But no such thing happened. I'll be following the tweets like everyone else tomorrow, but I don't really believe that Christine is going to be performing in Dublin.

CADreaming
09-20-2013, 10:30 PM
No one was tweeting we were told because it was a dead zone. Hardly any signal.

mylittledemon
09-20-2013, 10:44 PM
if this tweet is correct. she would be on stage for the start of the encores.

@jerkbenedict
Christine on stage!!!! #fleetwoodmac

Whoever tweeted that was indeed a jerk.

Anyway, not sure why people are expecting Chris in Ireland... didn't Stevie and Mick say she was only playing the London shows?

elle
09-20-2013, 10:50 PM
Christine was in Dublin because Stevie and Mick said that she was going to be there for rehearsals. They also said that she would be performing in London, not Dublin.

Mick said Christine will be performing at the 2nd and 3rd show in London.

Stevie said she will be performing at the "second two shows". that can mean anything. like at two places where there is a second show (like Dublin and London), she may be performing at those second shows.

people heard rehearsals and Christine performing with them, and some had indications, rightly or wrongly, that she may perform in Dublin, whether 1st or 2nd Dublin show. first definitely didn't happen. i'm not holding my breath for tomorrow, although it really makes no sense - why wouldn't she perform in Dublin? she's already there. :shrug:

but what makes any sense with these people? :lol:

Mick said numerous times they will be performing Oh Well in Europe. but then Lindsey said to a fan who met him earlier today that the set list is the same as the US. :(

elle
09-20-2013, 10:52 PM
Whoever tweeted that was indeed a jerk.

as he said actually in his twitter handle. :lol:

CADreaming
09-20-2013, 10:56 PM
Mick said Christine will be performing at the 2nd and 3rd show in London.

Stevie said she will be performing at the "second two shows". that can mean anything.


No, you just don't speak Stevie. She was in London when she said it, so the translation is she is reiterating Mick's comment - the 2nd & 3rd London shows. :)

michelej1
09-20-2013, 11:15 PM
Anyway, not sure why people are expecting Chris in Ireland... didn't Stevie and Mick say she was only playing the London shows?

Yes, no reason to think she'd be in Dublin. Well, I guess she's there, but no reason to think she'd be on stage, much less perform.

Michele

michelej1
09-20-2013, 11:21 PM
Stevie said she will be performing at the "second two shows". that can mean anything. like at two places where there is a second show (like Dublin and London), she may be performing at those second shows.


C'mon Elle.

I'm just glad that they're together. Well, I hope they're together.

Michele

vivfox
09-20-2013, 11:27 PM
I'm just glad that they're together. Well, I hope they're together.

Chain, keep us together...

SteveMacD
09-20-2013, 11:40 PM
Mick said numerous times they will be performing Oh Well in Europe. but then Lindsey said to a fan who met him earlier today that the set list is the same as the US. :(
Imagine if the same thing for "Don't Stop" was true for "Oh Well" at those shows. They could be the greatest Fleetood Mac shows ever. Oh well...

elle
09-21-2013, 12:09 AM
No, you just don't speak Stevie. She was in London when she said it, so the translation is she is reiterating Mick's comment - the 2nd & 3rd London shows. :)

lol, yeah definitely not.

to me, referring to the second 2 shows would mean that there also have to be first 2 shows before those second shows. ;)

applebucked
09-21-2013, 12:11 AM
I gave up on my Stevie speak courses a long time ago. :lol:

I am, however, proficient at translating sarcastic, sometimes passive-aggressive Christine speak.

Who is good at Lindsey speak around here, then?

Deeshere
09-21-2013, 12:20 AM
Some videos from the Dublin show:

Never Going Back Again

http://<iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/6FMRyDME57o" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>



http://<iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/z5QGMqime60" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>


The Chain

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/5_j6Hyo7uzk" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>


<iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/LVw20q7t3b8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>


Silver Springs

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/K1bTMSneZ-s" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

SteveMacD
09-21-2013, 12:31 AM
Some videos from the Dublin show:
Dig the drummer behind Lindsey... :rolleyes:

If anything, THAT'S what I miss about the "Time" band. There were six, AND ONLY SIX, people on stage. Are Mick's microphones even on? Talk about NOT getting bang for your buck. I'd rather see a band blow it than fake it.

Peestie
09-21-2013, 05:18 AM
I was there. Definitely no Christine. Not even a sniff of her (unless people up front saw her off stage) and she wasn't even mentioned. All the speeches are just the same as the US leg so they didn't add anything about Chris in.

shackin'up
09-21-2013, 06:25 AM
I was there. Definitely no Christine. Not even a sniff of her (unless people up front saw her off stage) and she wasn't even mentioned. All the speeches are just the same as the US leg so they didn't add anything about Chris in.

But, my friend, how was the show??? Please, one of the few people I wait to read a review from, is you!

Peestie
09-21-2013, 06:54 AM
But, my friend, how was the show??? Please, one of the few people I wait to read a review from, is you!
I'm literally about to run out the door to get to tonight's one (hoping for directly in front of Lindsey!) but I wrote a few initial impression over here http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?p=1103933#post1103933

I'll write more tomorrow with thoughts on both shows. I have a feeling I'll enjoy this one even more :thumbsup:

michelej1
09-21-2013, 12:52 PM
I was there. Definitely no Christine. Not even a sniff of her (unless people up front saw her off stage) and she wasn't even mentioned. All the speeches are just the same as the US leg so they didn't add anything about Chris in.

Thanks for the report. Although, even in the US Stevie sometimes would add Christine in, when she was thanking the guys and moving to John's thank you.

Michele

Bryan
09-21-2013, 01:18 PM
I asked Mick if she was in town and he sorta thought for a bit and said how she was going to but eventually didn't come with them. He seemed disappointed ,like that she got cold feet and backed out at the eleventh hour or something. I hope she will turn up in London as promised though,it would be a shame if she didn't

applebucked
09-21-2013, 01:29 PM
I asked Mick if she was in town and he sorta thought for a bit and said how she was going to but eventually didn't come with them. He seemed disappointed ,like that she got cold feet and backed out at the eleventh hour or something. I hope she will turn up in London as promised though,it would be a shame if she didn't
I thought she came to rehearse? :shrug: Unless you meant backing out of performing in Dublin. I don't think she'll be able to back out of London, though. Christine has a huge sense of loyalty to the Mac and unlike previous attempts of getting her on stage, this was widely publicized. Mick even said they're recording the London shows for this reason alone.

Madness Fades
09-21-2013, 04:14 PM
I went over to the venue on Wednesday night during rehearsals and met a few of the crew, the all remained quite tight lipped and didn't really reveal anything.
I obviously wasn't allowed in so I befriended a security gard who then proceeded to get me wasted on the strongest spiff I have ever had in my life. Christine was in there and she was singing "don't stop" nothing else was rehearsed form what I heard.
We sat outside the venue completely baked for about 3 hours not fit to move however we could hear everything. The band went throughout the US TOUR set list so I knew it wouldn't be any different from that point. John mc vie's guitar came out for a smoke and took my model 1 guitar in with him and repaired a little vibration I had going on on the low e string.
Drove home the 80 mile trip with cruise control set at 30mph and I felt like I was flying, that thing hadn't wore off even a little bit. I thought I was inside a snake going through the port tunnel.

I Woke up on Thursday morning feeling pretty down about the whole thing for not catching a glimpse of the band or an autograph from lindsey after hanging around for about 4 hours or more. So I was in two minds about going back to Dublin but I had the day off work and nothing else planned. So into the car and straight back to dublin me and the good wife went. We went to the hotel that they were staying and ordered a pot of tea and some lunch. No sooner than I had picked up the fork to take my first bite Lindsey walks straight past. Needless to say I didn't know what to do or say. So I jumped up and went after him to the doors of the hotel. I told him he was my all time hero and this was going to be the best day of my life. He seemed genuinely happy to hear that and I asked if he would come back in and sign my guitar in the lobby.
Not only did he say "sure, no problem" he sat down with me and my wife a chatted with us for a solid 25 minutes. He had so much time for us I was completely amazed. We talked about the band, the solo stuff, the cancelled tour in uk, taste in clothes and the leather jacket, he also asked a lot about me and was real easy to talk to. (lindsey you are a true hero and a gent)
lindsey played with my guitar and signed it real nice and then he also signed my Rumours LP as well. To this day I have never in my life wished for more than what I got that afternoon.
Then on the Friday headed down to the venue for the gig in good time met a few irish ledgies in the green room bar. Then headed in to the show.
I had standing tickets and was in first but had to move back a little bit because the crew were literally handpicking heaps of sexy girls from the crows and putting them right in front of lindsey. There must of been 30 of them. Not a single line of any song did the know. One didn't even know who was who in the Stevie lindsey name thing..
The show started on time and played for I think 2 hrs 40 mins. Without a break.
Lindsey was great, he got on with it, solid guitar work and vocals the whole night and very interactive with the crowd all night.
Stevie was not so interactive but i felt she was much better than she was in 09. Sisters of the moon was fantastic.
I set my seeds we sow cd cover on the stage and lindsey signed that too for me, which I kindly gave to a friend from Cork who is also a massive lindsey fan but didn't get to meet him.
We all went out for a hape of drink afterwards till the bars shut and then we went for pizza.
All in all it was an absolutely fantastic weekend. I am still on a high.
Really disappointed I'm not there tonight, as they would be currently singing landslide if my timing is right.
Perfect, perfect, perfect loved every minute of it.

MikeInNV
09-21-2013, 04:45 PM
I had standing tickets and was in first but had to move back a little bit because the crew were literally handpicking heaps of sexy girls from the crows and putting them right in front of lindsey. There must of been 30 of them. Not a single line of any song did the know. One didn't even know who was who in the Stevie lindsey name thing..


WTF was this about?

WildHearted
09-21-2013, 04:47 PM
Sounds like you had a great experience meeting Lindsey, Madness Fades. Glad to hear it and thanks for sharing.

WTF was this about?

They did that at most of the US shows too. :shrug:

vivfox
09-21-2013, 05:44 PM
Christine was in there and she was singing "don't stop" nothing else was rehearsed form what I heard.

John mc vie's guitar came out for a smoke and took my model 1 guitar in with him and repaired a little vibration I had going on on the low e string.


We went to the hotel that they were staying and ordered a pot of tea and some lunch. No sooner than I had picked up the fork to take my first bite Lindsey walks straight past. Needless to say I didn't know what to do or say. So I jumped up and went after him to the doors of the hotel. I told him he was my all time hero and this was going to be the best day of my life. He seemed genuinely happy to hear that and I asked if he would come back in and sign my guitar in the lobby.

Not only did he say "sure, no problem" he sat down with me and my wife a chatted with us for a solid 25 minutes. He had so much time for us I was completely amazed. We talked about the band, the solo stuff, the cancelled tour in uk, taste in clothes and the leather jacket, he also asked a lot about me and was real easy to talk to. (lindsey you are a true hero and a gent)
lindsey played with my guitar and signed it real nice and then he also signed my Rumours LP as well. To this day I have never in my life wished for more than what I got that afternoon.


Wow, what an amazing 2 days this was for you. So Mick fibbed to another Ledgie and pretended Christine wasn't even there. Your time with Lindsey sure was precious. I have no idea what you are referring to when you say JM's guitar came out for a smoke break and yours when in with him.

Bryan
09-21-2013, 06:32 PM
Wow, what an amazing 2 days this was for you. So Mick fibbed to another Ledgie and pretended Christine wasn't even there. Your time with Lindsey sure was precious. I have no idea what you are referring to when you say JM's guitar came out for a smoke break and yours when in with him.

NO he didn't he was telling the truth in that they were good to go mid-week but then she for whatever reason didn't come with 'em for the concert. Like I say, he didn't want to talk about it much he seemed disappointed she wasn't doing Dublin. I guess she's still on for London though,that's been the plan

vivfox
09-21-2013, 06:49 PM
NO he didn't he was telling the truth in that they were good to go mid-week but then she for whatever reason didn't come with 'em for the concert. Like I say, he didn't want to talk about it much he seemed disappointed she wasn't doing Dublin. I guess she's still on for London though,that's been the plan

But Chris WAS there for the rehearsal. We knew she wouldn't be performing ahead of time.

Bryan
09-21-2013, 07:02 PM
But Chris WAS there for the rehearsal. We knew she wouldn't be performing ahead of time.

He said she was going to.It was definitely considered.Mick has tried the most in the last decade to try and get her involved in FM again but it's her choice, I like that she's assertive enough to say no if she's not up to it.

applebucked
09-21-2013, 07:36 PM
He said she was going to.It was definitely considered.Mick has tried the most in the last decade to try and get her involved in FM again but it's her choice, I like that she's assertive enough to say no if she's not up to it.
I bet she got the jitters. The most important thing is that she showed up for the rehearsal. It would be a lot more troubling and disappointing if she didn't.

michelej1
09-21-2013, 08:57 PM
Not only did he say "sure, no problem" he sat down with me and my wife a chatted with us for a solid 25 minutes. He had so much time for us I was completely amazed. We talked about the band, the solo stuff, the cancelled tour in uk, taste in clothes and the leather jacket, he also asked a lot about me and was real easy to talk to. (lindsey you are a true hero and a gent)


That is so lovely. Talk about "all access!"

Also, how exciting to be able to hear the strains of Christine rehearsing Don't Stop. Michele

michelej1
09-21-2013, 09:17 PM
I thought she came to rehearse? :shrug: Unless you meant backing out of performing in Dublin. I don't think she'll be able to back out of London, though. Christine has a huge sense of loyalty to the Mac and unlike previous attempts of getting her on stage, this was widely publicized.

Yes, she may not want to be there (hope that's not the case), but she feels obligated. I'm not worried that she won't show. I'm just sad that she might not do anything much.

But what can you do? Guess we'll have to take Don't Stop and LIKE IT, by golly.

Michele

applebucked
09-21-2013, 09:31 PM
Yes, she may not want to be there (hope that's not the case), but she feels obligated. I'm not worried that she won't show. I'm just sad that she might not do anything much.

But what can you do? Guess we'll have to take Don't Stop and LIKE IT, by golly.

She does want to be there since she practically offered to do so. I really think it's just the jitters. Maybe a twinge of doubt. Just hearing her sing and play again would be great.

ejb1969
09-21-2013, 11:18 PM
It would have been nice for her to be there for the shows. However, she may have felt that if she stayed, she might be pressured in to two more "performances".

So she removed herself and eliminated that possibility.

elle
09-21-2013, 11:22 PM
It would have been nice for her to be there for the shows. However, she may have felt that if she stayed, she might be pressured in to two more "performances".

So she removed herself and eliminated that possibility.

oh yeah, and how bad would that have been?? tragic!

maybe what Mick was saying to whoever asked him (it's somewhere in this thread or the other Dublin one) was that she considered Dublin when they rehearsed and then chickened out the last moment. like she did during SYW tour.

who knows, maybe London doesn't get Christine after all. :shrug:

applebucked
09-21-2013, 11:29 PM
oh yeah, and how bad would that have been?? tragic!

maybe what Mick was saying to whoever asked him (it's somewhere in this thread or the other Dublin one) was that she considered Dublin when they rehearsed and then chickened out the last moment. like she did during SYW tour.

who knows, maybe London doesn't get Christine after all. :shrug:
One reason could be that at least in London, she could sleep on her own bed after. :p I would be surprised if she does not do London, though. Stakes are high for those shows more than anything. Dublin performances would've been unannounced/unexpected, for the most part.

Plus, she has probably committed herself (privately) to Mick for London, especially.

michelej1
09-21-2013, 11:36 PM
maybe what Mick was saying to whoever asked him (it's somewhere in this thread or the other Dublin one) was that she considered Dublin when they rehearsed and then chickened out the last moment. like she did during SYW tour.


Despite the rumor that she was supposed to do SYW (the gossip even said that they'd ordered a grand piano for Songbird), the band itself (I don't mean musicians, but I mean FM members) denied that was the case and never said she was. Afterwards, John said that was never true that she was going to be there in his Q & A. In Meantime interviews, Christine said that there was a little arm twisting, but she was not willing.



Michele

elle
09-21-2013, 11:41 PM
One reason could be that at least in London, she could sleep on her own bed after. :p I would be surprised if she does not do London, though. Stakes are high for those shows more than anything. Dublin performances would've been unannounced/unexpected, for the most part.

yeah so seems like a perfect (and wasted) opportunity to do it for a warm up, before stakes get too high.

applebucked
09-21-2013, 11:41 PM
Oh, right, I remember something about her showing up unexpectedly in Earls Court before the performance. :lol:

applebucked
09-21-2013, 11:43 PM
yeah so seems like a perfect (and wasted) opportunity to do it for a warm up, before stakes get too high.
Poor woman was probably already frazzled as it is. :laugh: I'm guessing she took the ferry getting there (for obvious reasons), but if she had to fly there for some reason, then I understand why (just speculating, but she's not gonna do that if she could).

But ITA, what a wasted opportunity.

ejb1969
09-22-2013, 02:32 AM
Oh, right, I remember something about her showing up unexpectedly in Earls Court before the performance. :lol:

What year was that?

applebucked
09-22-2013, 02:40 AM
It's during the SYW tour, so around 2003.

ejb1969
09-22-2013, 02:41 AM
Did she also show up in 2009?

applebucked
09-22-2013, 02:43 AM
Did she also show up in 2009?
I believe she did when they performed in Wembley.

Ulpian
09-22-2013, 06:18 AM
I believe she did when they performed in Wembley.

She was there for the last night. Stevie dedicated Landslide to her and gave a nice little speech about how much she misses Chris.

I agree with the comments here that she may have just done the rehearsal and nothing else because she doesn't want to be pulled back in. If she'd done a Dublin show, the news would travel fast and there might be an expectation that she would then do others beyond the two she is purported to be playing at.

Having done the Maui show this year I'm not concerned about her ability to perform (relatively) nerve-free on stage, but it's the travel that throws her, I think. Even getting a ferry to Dublin can be a shaky experience for someone who's used to, at most, driving the 70 miles from Kent to London.

I hope she doesn't back out.

applebucked
09-22-2013, 07:16 AM
I agree with the comments here that she may have just done the rehearsal and nothing else because she doesn't want to be pulled back in. If she'd done a Dublin show, the news would travel fast and there might be an expectation that she would then do others beyond the two she is purported to be playing at.
Plus she probably misses her dogs. :laugh:

Having done the Maui show this year I'm not concerned about her ability to perform (relatively) nerve-free on stage, but it's the travel that throws her, I think. Even getting a ferry to Dublin can be a shaky experience for someone who's used to, at most, driving the 70 miles from Kent to London.
I totally agree. She's a self-professed homebody who doesn't like to travel from place to place. Plus the absence of alcohol and possibly cigarettes didn't help matters.

I hope she doesn't back out.
This backing out talk brings out the worrywart in me again, to be honest. :distress: But I don't think she could back out of this one unless (and I hope it doesn't happen) she or someone she loves gets sick.

Ulpian
09-22-2013, 07:57 AM
Plus she probably misses her dogs. :laugh:


I totally agree. She's a self-professed homebody who doesn't like to travel from place to place. Plus the absence of alcohol and possibly cigarettes didn't help matters.


This backing out talk brings out the worrywart in me again, to be honest. :distress: But I don't think she could back out of this one unless (and I hope it doesn't happen) she or someone she loves gets sick.

I honestly would not be surprised if she didn't perform at the London shows. It would be hugely embarrassing for the band if she didn't, but the mistake - in my opinion - was giving it the publicity which Mick and Stevie have given it. I understand that they did so because Chris offered to play and they are delighted and excited, but had there just been a Twitter rumour (like Maui) it would have given both Chris and the band the 'wiggle room' to allow her to cancel last minute.

Maybe it'll be fine, maybe she is happy to do two of the London shows and just doesn't want to be swept back into the Black Hole by doing others, but I do worry a little that the weight of expectation now - on Chris principally, but also on Mick and Stevie for having announced this to the world's media - might not sit well with Chris.

applebucked
09-22-2013, 08:06 AM
I honestly would not be surprised if she didn't perform at the London shows. It would be hugely embarrassing for the band if she didn't, but the mistake - in my opinion - was giving it the publicity which Mick and Stevie have given it. I understand that they did so because Chris offered to play and they are delighted and excited, but had there just been a Twitter rumour (like Maui) it would have given both Chris and the band the 'wiggle room' to allow her to cancel last minute.

Maybe it'll be fine, maybe she is happy to do two of the London shows and just doesn't want to be swept back into the Black Hole by doing others, but I do worry a little that the weight of expectation now - on Chris principally, but also on Mick and Stevie for having announced this to the world's media - might not sit well with Chris.
And I imagine there will be lots of booing and chants of "Christine! Christine! Christine!" during the September 25 and 27 shows if she didn't show up. I don't think their egos (yes all of them, including Chris' relatively small one) could handle that. The pressure would be immense on Mick, Stevie and especially Chris, though.

Ulpian
09-22-2013, 08:30 AM
And I imagine there will be lots of booing and chants of "Christine! Christine! Christine!" during the September 25 and 27 shows if she didn't show up. I don't think their egos (yes all of them, including Chris' relatively small one) could handle that. The pressure would be immense on Mick, Stevie and especially Chris, though.

True, though Christine could just retreat to Kent, shut the gates and ignore the hooplah! (Though her recent comments suggest she might be a little fed up of doing that.)

I remain optimistic. She can sing Don't Stop with her eyes closed, hands behind her back, underwater. :lol: OK, the O2 is a big venue, but she had practice in Maui and it sounds as though she has rehearsed with them once or twice.

Hopefully it'll happen. If it does, and it's the last thing the five of them do together, that will be nice. I'm a Pink Floyd fan, and Live 8 was the best thing they did in about thirty years as far as I am concerned, because it showed that the four band members cared enough to get together and say goodbye to the fans properly (and to do good for a charity). If Chris does that in London, and never resurfaces again, I suppose we ought to be happy.

applebucked
09-22-2013, 08:37 AM
True, though Christine could just retreat to Kent, shut the gates and ignore the hooplah! (Though her recent comments suggest she might be a little fed up of doing that.)

I remain optimistic. She can sing Don't Stop with her eyes closed, hands behind her back, underwater. :lol: OK, the O2 is a big venue, but she had practice in Maui and it sounds as though she has rehearsed with them once or twice.

Hopefully it'll happen. If it does, and it's the last thing the five of them do together, that will be nice. I'm a Pink Floyd fan, and Live 8 was the best thing they did in about thirty years as far as I am concerned, because it showed that the four band members cared enough to get together and say goodbye to the fans properly (and to do good for a charity). If Chris does that in London, and never resurfaces again, I suppose we ought to be happy.
I remain optimistic that it will happen as well. Nothing beyond that, but I hope it sparks a sort of creative output packaged in a jewel case. Maybe a solo album, or she should bring Lindsey with her and churn out that double act album I've pitched (see my thread the Lindsey forum). Let the studio fiends work together. :lol: Maybe she could teach him how to make a proper cup of tea and introduce him to Chocolate Hobnobs.

MikeInNV
09-22-2013, 09:40 AM
She was there for the last night. Stevie dedicated Landslide to her and gave a nice little speech about how much she misses Chris.

Is there video of this, I hope!

Ulpian
09-22-2013, 09:42 AM
Is there video of this, I hope!

Sadly, none that I know of. We had reports here from one or two people who were there, but nobody seemed to have recorded the speech. I suspect they simply weren't expecting Stevie to say anything about Chris.

applebucked
09-22-2013, 09:51 AM
Shame. That would have been lovely to see.

Ulpian
09-22-2013, 09:56 AM
Shame. That would have been lovely to see.

Agreed. I'd also have liked to have been there in 2003 when, again on the last night in London, they dedicated Landslide to her *and* Mick made a nice little speech about 'the fifth member of the band', who was 'somewhere out there' [at the soundboard(!)], before Don't Stop.

vivfox
09-22-2013, 10:06 AM
Agreed. I'd also have liked to have been there in 2003 when, again on the last night in London, they dedicated Landslide to her *and* Mick made a nice little speech about 'the fifth member of the band', who was 'somewhere out there' [at the soundboard(!)], before Don't Stop.

I vaguely remember hearing about that.

Ulpian
09-22-2013, 10:12 AM
I vaguely remember hearing about that.

Since then, I recall reading one of the sound guys (I think) saying that Chris was basically chain-smoking her way through the 2003 London gig, pacing around behind the soundboard. I suppose she may have been nervous at being back amongst the circus and perhaps afraid of being coaxed back in.

applebucked
09-22-2013, 10:17 AM
Since then, I recall reading one of the sound guys (I think) saying that Chris was basically chain-smoking her way through the 2003 London gig, pacing around behind the soundboard. I suppose she may have been nervous at being back amongst the circus and perhaps afraid of being coaxed back in.
I think I've heard about that. Guessing her relative lack of vices now and back then made her more jittery than ever. She's been sober for a couple of years at that point.

MikeInNV
09-22-2013, 11:54 AM
Sadly, none that I know of. We had reports here from one or two people who were there, but nobody seemed to have recorded the speech. I suspect they simply weren't expecting Stevie to say anything about Chris.

Didn't we have this same issue during Unleashed? I thought Stevie said something very nice about Christine, who was in the audience, during the intro to Landslide. I recall that we waited for video to surface and, to my knowledge, it never did. :mad:

Come on Ledgies, all Landslide dedications need to be recorded during these next few shows!

applebucked
09-22-2013, 11:57 AM
I'm expecting a dedication in the first London show.

Ulpian
09-22-2013, 12:02 PM
Didn't we have this same issue during Unleashed? I thought Stevie said something very nice about Christine, who was in the audience, during the intro to Landslide. I recall that we waited for video to surface and, to my knowledge, it never did. :mad:

Come on Ledgies, all Landslide dedications need to be recorded during these next few shows!

It was the Unleashed one which no-one appears to have recorded.

There was a brief, blurry video from the 2003 Landslide, taken from what looked like the front row, in which Stevie dedicated the song to Chris and Lindsey blew a kiss (out to wherever Chris was!).

applebucked
09-22-2013, 12:30 PM
It was the Unleashed one which no-one appears to have recorded.

There was a brief, blurry video from the 2003 Landslide, taken from what looked like the front row, in which Stevie dedicated the song to Chris and Lindsey blew a kiss (out to wherever Chris was!).
I think I would get a kick out of that. :laugh:

michelej1
09-22-2013, 01:22 PM
And I imagine there will be lots of booing and chants of "Christine! Christine! Christine!" during the September 25 and 27 shows if she didn't show up. I don't think their egos (yes all of them, including Chris' relatively small one) could handle that. The pressure would be immense on Mick, Stevie and especially Chris, though.

Chris isn't going to back out of London. I think maybe she just wasn't ready to play Dublin and that's why no one said she would. She will be getting in several days more rehearsal for the London shows this way.

I think her stepping out for the IYD premiere and having all of those flashes in her face again and smiling through it all probably was good training too.

I just wish we could hope for more than Don't Stop. What I'm worried about is that we will have just that one song. Michele

michelej1
09-22-2013, 01:25 PM
I think I would get a kick out of that. :laugh:

As would I. All we ever got was a photograph of them after the SYW show. And of course, Christine constantly talking about how fatigued they were.

Michele

elle
09-22-2013, 01:32 PM
I just wish we could hope for more than Don't Stop. What I'm worried about is that we will have just that one song. Michele

yeah, same i was worried that Oh Well will be the only song addition / change we will get for the EU leg. we didn't even get that!

#justsayin #howlowcanyougo

michelej1
09-22-2013, 01:42 PM
yeah, same i was worried that Oh Well will be the only song addition / change we will get for the EU leg. we didn't even get that!

#justsayin #howlowcanyougo

Now you're making me fantasize that they didn't do Oh Well because they wanted to concentrate on other things.

But I didn't want Oh Well anyway, so maybe its absence is all the wish fulfillment I'm destined to get.

Michele

Mr Scarrott
09-22-2013, 01:43 PM
I just wish we could hope for more than Don't Stop. What I'm worried about is that we will have just that one song. Michele

Well, if that's all we get, I can live with it. Having her back, even for a few minutes and one song is a bonus I thought we would never see. OK, "Don't Stop" is not the greatest song, and in her own words, it's just a bit of a shuffle, but that, to me at least links the Rumours Mac to its predecessors...try playing Lazy Poker Blues or Stop Messin' Around from Mr Wonderful , both of them with Chris on piano and then put on Don't Stop to see what I mean.

Hell, she's played with everyone (bar Bob Brunning) who's ever been in this band.. she's part of the silken thread that runs through it. Whatever makes her happy is fine by me.

Ulpian
09-22-2013, 01:44 PM
Chris isn't going to back out of London. I think maybe she just wasn't ready to play Dublin and that's why no one said she would. She will be getting in several days more rehearsal for the London shows this way.

I think her stepping out for the IYD premiere and having all of those flashes in her face again and smiling through it all probably was good training too.

I just wish we could hope for more than Don't Stop. What I'm worried about is that we will have just that one song. Michele

Today I wondered whether she might play on GYOW but I just think it'll be Don't Stop. Frankly, you'll still be able to knock me down with a feather if she actually comes up on stage on Wed and Fri!

Good grief. It's not long. I'm travelling to London Thursday night and staying with my brother. It hasn't sunk in yet; I have so much to do at work before then that I am not getting too excited...

Ulpian
09-22-2013, 01:46 PM
Well, if that's all we get, I can live with it. Having her back, even for a few minutes and one song is a bonus I thought we would never see. OK, "Don't Stop" is not the greatest song, and in her own words, it's just a bit of a shuffle, but that, to me at least links the Rumours Mac to its predecessors...try playing Lazy Poker Blues or Stop Messin' Around from Mr Wonderful , both of them with Chris on piano and then put on Don't Stop to see what I mean.

Hell, she's played with everyone (bar Bob Brunning) who's ever been in this band.. she's part of the silken thread that runs through it. Whatever makes her happy is fine by me.

^ This.

'Silken thread'. How lovely and how apt.

michelej1
09-22-2013, 01:59 PM
Whatever makes her happy is fine by me.

I think she should concentrate more on making me happy, starting in 1997 when a heads up that that was the end would have been greatly appreciated.

It's been downhill from there.

Michele

Mr Scarrott
09-22-2013, 02:14 PM
I think she should concentrate more on making me happy, starting in 1997 when a heads up that that was the end would have been greatly appreciated.

Well, I was pretty unhappy that the Dance tour never got extended to Europe, but I got over it. We don't own these people, do we? They don't exist just to make us happy. They have their own lives to lead, imperfect or otherwise.

Ulpian
09-22-2013, 02:16 PM
Well, I was pretty unhappy that the Dance tour never got extended to Europe, but I got over it. We don't own these people, do we? They don't exist just to make us happy. They have their own lives to lead, imperfect or otherwise.

I am happy if the five of them appear at London. As you say, we didn't get The Dance, nor was there a European leg of the Mirage tour.

:thumbsup:

michelej1
09-22-2013, 02:25 PM
Well, I was pretty unhappy that the Dance tour never got extended to Europe, but I got over it. We don't own these people, do we? They don't exist just to make us happy. They have their own lives to lead, imperfect or otherwise.

No, I think they exist to make me happy, so I repeat that I have been owed since 1997.

Michele

applebucked
09-22-2013, 08:05 PM
No, I think they exist to make me happy, so I repeat that I have been owed since 1997.
How many IOUs did they give you? :laugh:

michelej1
09-22-2013, 08:14 PM
How many IOUs did they give you? :laugh:

Yeah, I was thinking 16 years now. They start to add up.

So, I want something more than Don't Stop, another song, and I was also thinking that I deserve some really good PDA.

You know when Lindsey came for the BTM tour, Christine was kissing and touching him and putting her fingers through his hair, so I was thinking that maybe this time Stevie and Lindsey could run their fingers through Christine's hair. That would be nice!

Remember in the Tusk photo shoot when the photographer said her hair was too flat and both Stevie and Lindsey tried to fluff it up for her? That was so delightful.

Michele

applebucked
09-22-2013, 08:19 PM
Yeah, I was thinking 16 years now. They start to add up.

So, I want something more than Don't Stop, another song, and I was also thinking that I deserve some really good PDA.

You know when Lindsey came for the BTM tour, Christine was kissing and touching him and putting her fingers through his hair, so I was thinking that maybe this time Stevie and Lindsey could run their fingers through Christine's hair. That would be nice!

Remember in the Tusk photo shoot when the photographer said her hair was too flat and both Stevie and Lindsey tried to fluff it up for her? That was so delightful.

Michele
Or if she wore that clip again Stevie could just go and braid her hair or something like that. I imagine lots of hugging and kissing too.

michelej1
09-22-2013, 08:28 PM
Or if she wore that clip again Stevie could just go and braid her hair or something like that. I imagine lots of hugging and kissing too.

I'm reminded of 2 moments with Stevie and Christine, where Stevie was being really helpful. Once in one of the docu videos, Christine just wanted some eyeliner and Stevie was offering her the whole cosmetics store, when Christine just wanted one thing.

Same thing during the Dance tour. I saw Christine go to get a tambo for SYLM and Stevie offered her two or three different ones and Christine practically had to push her aside in a kind of "stop fussing" kind of way. It made me smile.

Michele

applebucked
09-22-2013, 08:31 PM
Typical Stevie. :laugh: She really is the annoying little sister sometimes.

michelej1
09-23-2013, 03:12 AM
I imagine lots of hugging and kissing too.

And a few tear drops.

Michele

applebucked
09-23-2013, 03:34 AM
That too. From all of them.

ejb1969
09-23-2013, 05:16 AM
That too. From all of them.

Which is why I don't think she will perform Songbird. It might be too emotional for Christine; she may be afraid she coldn't get through it.

ironman_01701
09-23-2013, 06:40 AM
Chris is going to sing a song or two in London:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVBC6G7CjdI

poetinmyheart
09-23-2013, 01:32 PM
Is Chris definitely only singing in the final 2 London shows? I'm going to the 1st London show tomorrow - half killed myself to get tickets. I'll be sad if she appears for 2 and 3 only. If I'd known, I'd have obviously bought tickets for those shows instead. Oh well, I guess :shrug:

wheart
09-23-2013, 02:20 PM
Which is why I don't think she will perform Songbird. It might be too emotional for Christine; she may be afraid she coldn't get through it.

agreed but that's the way for Chris to return. No intro, she just walks out on the dark stage and starts playing Songbird. Can you imagine the crowd's reaction? I get goosebumps just fantasizing about it!!

jbrownsjr
09-23-2013, 02:28 PM
agreed but that's the way for Chris to return. No intro, she just walks out on the dark stage and starts playing Songbird. Can you imagine the crowd's reaction? I get goosebumps just fantasizing about it!!

I just fainted.... :lol:

michelej1
09-23-2013, 02:40 PM
I think unannounced is best too, although I was fantasizing about it happening a little earlier than Songbird.

But she just comes out and starts singing or playing with them, no heads up, and Mick announces her later, with the rest of the band.

Michele

applebucked
09-23-2013, 07:27 PM
I think unannounced is best too, although I was fantasizing about it happening a little earlier than Songbird.

But she just comes out and starts singing or playing with them, no heads up, and Mick announces her later, with the rest of the band.
I could just see her slipping in unnoticed and start playing, but Christine being there would be obvious since if that's the case, her setup would be in front along with the rest of the band.

michelej1
09-23-2013, 08:02 PM
I could just see her slipping in unnoticed and start playing, but Christine being there would be obvious since if that's the case, her setup would be in front along with the rest of the band.

Right. That's the tip off. If you walk into the arena and see the keyboards up front instead of in the back where Brett is, then you know that something is afoot.

Michele

applebucked
09-23-2013, 08:09 PM
Right. That's the tip off. If you walk into the arena and see the keyboards up front instead of in the back where Brett is, then you know that something is afoot.
and if someone says something about that, that's when we know...

michelej1
09-23-2013, 08:18 PM
and if someone says something about that, that's when we know...

And if before the show, someone reports back that the set up is the same and there is no extra equipment on the stage Wednesday, everyone will be freaking out with dismay, long before the concert starts.

Michele

applebucked
09-23-2013, 08:21 PM
And if before the show, someone reports back that the set up is the same and there is no extra equipment on the stage Wednesday, everyone will be freaking out with dismay, long before the concert starts.
*crosses fingers for extra equipment*