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BrownEyedGirl26
09-08-2013, 08:05 AM
I've just rediscovered this after some time and I love it more now than when I first heard it. Stevie sings this so effortlessly and it is so suited to her voice, no straining of vocal chords at all. It would be nice if she could record more songs in this style of singing. I like the demo version because of her harmonies in the background and also the HQ version because of the guitars and drums etc. How do you all feel about this song? It would be great to hear her sing this to Lindsey on stage. JMHO!:nod:

blinker12
09-08-2013, 09:22 AM
Totally agree -- I love it. One of her best vocals of the past decade, and the production is interesting without being overpowering (I'm looking at you, "Smile at You.")

I just wish she'd worked a little harder on the lyrics.

Dex
09-08-2013, 09:26 AM
I just wish she'd worked a little harder on the lyrics.

Yes. "Everywhere we go now, at home or at play" is far too clunky a line for use in the song's opening. It almost kills the song before it starts. I don't really mind the rest of the lyrics, although they certainly aren't anything near her best.

Sonically the song is just fantastic. I wish it had found a home that might've given it the wider audience it deserves.

vivfox
09-08-2013, 10:44 AM
To me it's a throwaway track.:sorry:

Dex
09-08-2013, 11:13 AM
To me it's a throwaway track.:sorry:

Seems like the band would agree with you. Given that that's pretty much what they did with it.

BLY
09-08-2013, 11:53 AM
Agree! Not the best track.

vivfox
09-08-2013, 11:56 AM
Seems like the band would agree with you. Given that that's pretty much what they did with it.


The band must have liked it because they included it on the bonus CD. However it wasn't what I'd call a bonus. A bonus might have been the 1982 angry version of Smile At You in its studio crispness.

PenguinHead
09-08-2013, 01:27 PM
To me it's a throwaway track.:sorry:

Don't be sorry. I agree. The song is okay, yet it reeks b-side status in comparison to her better songs.

TrueFaith77
09-08-2013, 06:51 PM
The two bonus tracks are my favorite production-wise from the SYW sessions.

secret love
09-08-2013, 10:19 PM
Yes. "Everywhere we go now, at home or at play" is far too clunky a line for use in the song's opening. It almost kills the song before it starts. I don't really mind the rest of the lyrics, although they certainly aren't anything near her best.

Sonically the song is just fantastic. I wish it had found a home that might've given it the wider audience it deserves.

Not Make Believe is a song I sing around the house quite a bit haha

I tend to sing the opening lines as "It isn't just that we cause each other such pain/Everywhere we go now, at home or on stage" - does still sound a little clunky though.

I agree that the lyrics are definitely not her best, though I love the line "It hurts my self esteem...it hurts my everything".

louielouie2000
09-09-2013, 10:46 AM
I've loved this song ever since it emerged as a demo a dozen years ago. Personally, I enjoy the subject matter of the song. It's about the real struggles of love; the ups and downs, the indecision. Lindsey's production of the final product is quirky, and the song definitely sounds like it wasn't ever really intended to be on an album. It seems a bit rushed, perhaps unfinished. Despite that, I still love it & wish it would have found a more prominent home. Emotionally, it's one of my favorite of Stevie's songs from Say You Will.

Artemis
09-09-2013, 11:38 AM
I really like Not Make Believe, especially the It hurts my self esteem / It hurts my everything, line.

Not a big fan of I am reeling / Ooh it hurts my feelings bit though.

jbrownsjr
09-09-2013, 01:36 PM
I really like Not Make Believe, especially the It hurts my self esteem / It hurts my everything, line.

Not a big fan of I am reeling / Ooh it hurts my feelings bit though.

I like the tune as well... I agree 100% on the those lyrics above..

Phil
09-09-2013, 08:25 PM
Good tune, great production, but woeful lyrics - scraping the bottom of the barrel, even by her standards...

Phil
09-09-2013, 08:32 PM
PS It's worth noting that "Not Make Believe" was actually circulated, along with seven other tracks, on an advance promo acetate cd of the Say You Will album. This was after the decision had been made not to release a double album. Therefore, I'm assuming it was still being considered for inclusion on the main album up until a fairly late stage. Surprising since I also think it sounds unfinished, possibly due to the sparse production and those "working" lyrics...

Neal
09-10-2013, 10:20 PM
I love this song, and would have taken it over "Silver Girl" or "Illume" any day of the week!

cbBen
12-14-2018, 11:40 AM
Anyone know when it was written? Is it an old or new song? Did Stevie write just four new songs for Say You Will?

secondhandchain
12-14-2018, 01:45 PM
Perfect example of Lindsey taking a boring song and making it interesting. I love what he did to it.

ryan4136
12-14-2018, 02:15 PM
Wrote it for TISL

SteveMacD
12-14-2018, 02:20 PM
Perfect example of Lindsey taking a boring song and making it interesting. I love what he did to it.
Left it off the album :shrug:

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