cracking up, shacking up, packing up... all true!

[elle]

love this new interview with SN - http://www.fleetwoodmacnews.com/2013/09/stevie-nicks-original-rebel-my-whole.html#more

of course, i skipped through to LB-related parts and am thinking the lovefest might be over! :D
(maybe we'll get that OMS next year after all! :])

quick and dirty timeline of this ever-changing history:

for years and decades, and as recently as that BBC 2009 (i think?) Don't Stop doc interview, SN claims how LB is a jerk who made up her sleeping around on him which "shacking up" line implies, and how mad she was at him for putting that line in GYOW.
some time at the beginning of this year (or end of last?) SN defends Kristen Stewart, describing how she was cheating on her long term boyfriend too, and how gracious he was in taking her back after he found out. she doesn't name the bf she was cheating on.
in the most recent interview (link above), SN actually names the guy she was cheating with (as Lindsay :laugh:) and identifies long term boyfriend she was cheating on as LB, but blames it on him - she just had to because LB was a jealous jerk.


draw your own conclusions.

either way, i find it extremely amusing how these stories develop and change into a complete opposite over the years. :nod: :lol:

[CADreaming]

It is hilarious!!!

Roll the presses! We're promoting a tour again! :thumbsup:

[elle]

It is hilarious!!!

Roll the presses! We're promoting a tour again! :thumbsup:

i was obviously looking at it in the term of lovefest that everybody seems to be waiting to see how long it will last, but you may be very right, my dear!

if you are right, isn't it sad? they sold out in the UK practically all their shows, but they still feel the need to drag out the soap opera? :rolleyes:

[michelej1]

some time at the beginning of this year (or end of last?) SN defends Kristen Stewart, describing how she was cheating on her long term boyfriend too, and how gracious he was in taking her back after he found out. she doesn't name the bf she was cheating on.

Whoever the boyfriend was that she was referring to regarding Kristen Stewart, she said she had cheated on him like 2 or 3 times. So, if she was with Lindsey, it wouldn't be just this one Lindsay guy.

As for her story changing over time, she has always talked about splitting up with Lindsey and meeting someone else (but I think this was a guy in Northern California) and not knowing whether or not she would go back to Lindsey. This is the story she gave for her solo song Destiny. Yes, she packed up and left LB, fell for another guy and then came back to LB when her money ran out. She has discussed this in the past. So, we haven't just recently learned that Stevie had other relationships. It's been known.

But these Elle comments don't seem to have anything to do with any current acrimony between Lindsey and Stevie to me, nor do I see how they would have any tendency to promote the ongoing tour.

Michele

[elle]

But these Elle comments don't seem to have anything to do with any current acrimony between Lindsey and Stevie to me, nor do I see how they would have any tendency to promote the ongoing tour.

Michele

ah, so she's just freely reminiscing and rambling?

maybe, in these few months off they had a fallout if LB pushed for firm plans re album or continuation of the tour and she didn't want to commit to that? according to their public image, they seem to blow up every normal co-worker discussion into big argument, so maybe it happened again? :shrug:

i guess both CAD and i see what we want to see - me chance of LB going back solo, and CAD idyllic situation between SN and LB with them manufacturing blow ups to make themselves seem more interesting. :shrug:

[Lindsfan]

love this new interview with SN - http://www.fleetwoodmacnews.com/2013/09/stevie-nicks-original-rebel-my-whole.html#more

of course, i skipped through to LB-related parts and am thinking the lovefest might be over! :D
(maybe we'll get that OMS next year after all! :])

quick and dirty timeline of this ever-changing history:

for years and decades, and as recently as that BBC 2009 (i think?) Don't Stop doc interview, SN claims how LB is a jerk who made up her sleeping around on him which "shacking up" line implies, and how mad she was at him for putting that line in GYOW.
some time at the beginning of this year (or end of last?) SN defends Kristen Stewart, describing how she was cheating on her long term boyfriend too, and how gracious he was in taking her back after he found out. she doesn't name the bf she was cheating on.
in the most recent interview (link above), SN actually names the guy she was cheating with (as Lindsay :laugh:) and identifies long term boyfriend she was cheating on as LB, but blames it on him - she just had to because LB was a jealous jerk.


draw your own conclusions.

either way, i find it extremely amusing how these stories develop and change into a complete opposite over the years. :nod: :lol:

She's like that commercial from the last presidential campaign, that showed Mitt Romney debating himself! :laugh:

What she's saying is, "how dare he accuse me of sleeping around. Oh, and by the way, I slept around a lot."

But seriously ;) how is this possible? :shocked: I thought Lindsey was the only jerk back then? :rolleyes:

[michelej1]

ah, so she's just freely reminiscing and rambling?



It's no different than what she always does or says, lovey dovey with Lindsey or not. She doesn't refrain from talking about past loves and friction when she's getting along with Lindsey.

If she were unhappy with him, she'd more likely be saying how she was disappointed with Sad Angel or Miss Fantasy and something along those lines or saying that after being in contact with Christine again, it made her even more certain that they shouldn't make new music without Chris and that it's too hard to be in the studio with Lindsey. Or she could say that Tusk was FM's worse album. I mean, that's the way to get under his skin and I would take that as a sign of acrimony.

Even if she said she slept with Waddy back in the BN days, I wouldn't see revealing that in an interview today as a taunt towards Lindsey, since it would probably be something he's known for decades and become reconciled to. When she starts accusing him of not paying attention to her during her Without You intro and being jealous of the attention she gets on stage (not jealous of other men 40 years ago) that's when I'll think the lovefest is over, for now.

Michele

[Lindsfan]

It's no different than what she always does or says, lovey dovey with Lindsey or not. She doesn't refrain from talking about past loves and friction when she's getting along with Lindsey.

If she were unhappy with him, she'd more likely be saying how she was disappointed with Sad Angel or Miss Fantasy and something along those lines or saying that after being in contact with Christine again, it made her even more certain that they shouldn't make new music without Chris and that it's too hard to be in the studio with Lindsey. Or she could say that Tusk was FM's worse album. I mean, that's the way to get under his skin and I would take that as a sign of acrimony.



I tend to agree with this. I don't think it signifies the end of the tour. I did find it sad though that she said she didn't think she and Lindsey could ever be friends. They seem friendly now. But then, maybe she only said that to make their relationship seem more dramatic than it really is these days :shrug:.

[elle]

She doesn't refrain from talking about past loves and friction when she's getting along with Lindsey.

If she were unhappy with him, she'd more likely be saying how she was disappointed with Sad Angel or Miss Fantasy and something along those lines or saying that after being in contact with Christine again, it made her even more certain that they shouldn't make new music without Chris and that it's too hard to be in the studio with Lindsey.

interesting, guess i didn't see enough SN interviews to pick up on those nuances.

[michelej1]

I tend to agree with this. I don't think it signifies the end of the tour. I did find it sad though that she said she didn't think she and Lindsey could ever be friends. They seem friendly now. But then, maybe she only said that to make their relationship seem more dramatic than it really is these days :shrug:.

It is kind of sad. I mean she can vacation with Mick and can't do that with Lindsey and I guess that says 2 things: 1. She and Lindsey still squabble and wouldn't have a peaceful time together and, 2. it's proof of that sadness she was talking about in the interview, where you wish you wish you could be together.

In that sense, I guess it does make their relationship seem more dramatic, as you said.

Michele

[CADreaming]

I tend to agree with this. I don't think it signifies the end of the tour. I did find it sad though that she said she didn't think she and Lindsey could ever be friends. They seem friendly now. But then, maybe she only said that to make their relationship seem more dramatic than it really is these days :shrug:.

Yeah that's hogwash. Unless her definition of "friends" is different than mine. Lol.

I totally agree with Michele's post about Stevie using other comments to get LB's feathers ruffled. But, the timing of the UK article is still nice as the tour starts up.

[CADreaming]

It is kind of sad. I mean she can vacation with Mick and can't do that with Lindsey and I guess that says 2 things: 1. She and Lindsey still squabble and wouldn't have a peaceful time together and, 2. it's proof of that sadness she was talking about in the interview, where you wish you wish you could be together.

In that sense, I guess it does make their relationship seem more dramatic, as you said.

Michele

Well maybe it says Lindsey's wife doesn't want to vacation with her. :lol:

[michelej1]

interesting, guess i didn't see enough SN interviews to pick up on those nuances.

No, you're certainly right that tension could have formed in the down time and they could be fighting about 2014 plans, contracts and commitments, even as we speak.

But as much as we've been hearing that Glastonbury thing for 5 years now, I was just feeling it was more valid this time around and that they were at least locked in together already through half of 2014.

But gauging their relationship, I guess I do wait for barometers like her crying to Jim Ladd that Lindsey was very angry and looked at her "mean" when she put on her top hat and was so worried about whether she would continue with FM that he was jumping around waiting for her to sign, like a cat on a hot roof and if he doesn't watch his step she'll leave so fast the palm trees will hit him on the head.

Michele

[michelej1]

Well maybe it says Lindsey's wife doesn't want to vacation with her. :lol:

Yeah, that too. She's even said that once, that they can't hang out for that reason. Also, if he didn't have a wife that might mind, she might be closer to his daughters. I think she sees them during the tour, but I don't think she sees them that often when they aren't touring -- but I do remember in that one video we saw when she was with girls at that restaurant, you thought they could be his.

Michele

[CADreaming]

Yeah, that too. She's even said that once, that they can't hang out for that reason. Also, if he didn't have a wife that might mind, she might be closer to his daughters. I think she sees them during the tour, but I don't think she sees them that often when they aren't touring -- but I do remember in that one video we saw when she was with girls at that restaurant, you thought they could be his.

Michele

Well, it was Leelee's birthday. Thought maybe they were headed to a bday party. I guess they were Mick's, but its been a long time since I watched it.

Stevie seems to know a lot about their activities although she's cooled that talk recently. And, that's the thing about her we can't be friends comments regarding LB - they obviously talk all the time so what's the big deal. The worst with them is over, they will always be in each other's life. It's all good.

[Lindsfan]

Stevie seems to know a lot about their activities although she's cooled that talk recently. And, that's the thing about her we can't be friends comments regarding LB - they obviously talk all the time so what's the big deal. The worst with them is over, they will always be in each other's life. It's all good.

I don't think they talk all that often, at all. But I do agree that they seem to be in a good, and fairly stable place with each other, finally.

[BTFLCHLD]

"You know you should never believe what you read."

:wavey:

when I last asked Lindsey of an FM tour, he smirked with the comment that 'if it doesn't happen it's because of HER.'

[vivfox]

in the most recent interview SN actually names the guy she was cheating with(as Lindsay :laugh:) and identifies long term boyfriend she was cheating on as LB, but blames it on him - she just had to because LB was a jealous jerk.

Maybe it was Lindsey's guitar tech, Ray Lindsey. She could have been referencing his last name and the reporter used an A in the name so we could tell the difference between the two men.

[getTusked]

"You know you should never believe what you read."

:wavey:

when I last asked Lindsey of an FM tour, he smirked with the comment that 'if it doesn't happen it's because of HER.'

meaning Stevie or the wife?

I thought Stevie and Kristen were cool with each other? Stevie usually refers to her as lovely, but I guess that doesn't really mean much. Also, Stevie actually said that her and LB can't hang because of Kristen? God they are so damn complicated....like just make out on stage ONCE please...:shrug:

[CADreaming]

Maybe it was Lindsey's guitar tech, Ray Lindsey. She could have been referencing his last name and the reporter used an A in the name so we could tell the difference between the two men.

Hey just to stir something up, it could have been Walter LindsAy Egan... :lol:


meaning Stevie or the wife?

I thought Stevie and Kristen were cool with each other? Stevie usually refers to her as lovely, but I guess that doesn't really mean much. Also, Stevie actually said that her and LB can't hang because of Kristen? God they are so damn complicated....

Maybe Stevie is intimidated by Kristen's decorating, songwriting, or sequencing talents. Although, I would think they would have a lot to talk about. Wonder what Kristen thinks of the Geico commercials.

[elle]

"You know you should never believe what you read."

:wavey:

when I last asked Lindsey of an FM tour, he smirked with the comment that 'if it doesn't happen it's because of HER.'

BTFLCHLD!! so good to see you popping back for a moment!! :wavey:

meaning Stevie or the wife?

i'm not BTFLCHLD but i'm pretty sure he meant Stevie. doubt that wife told him not to do his job.

[CADreaming]

i'm not BTFLCHLD but i'm pretty sure he meant Stevie. why would wife tell him not to do his job? :confused:

Because of Stevie...:shrug:

Otherwise, the perks are pretty good.

[michelej1]

meaning Stevie or the wife?

I thought Stevie and Kristen were cool with each other? Stevie usually refers to her as lovely, but I guess that doesn't really mean much. Also, Stevie actually said that her and LB can't hang because of Kristen?

No, she didn't say it like that and I can't find the direct quote. She didn't say Kristen by name. It wasn't like an attack on Kristen as a person. It was more like "Lindsey's married" and an acknowledgement that Lindsey has family obligations and it would be weird for him to hang out socializing with his ex-girlfriend.

Michele

[michelej1]

Maybe it was Lindsey's guitar tech, Ray Lindsey. She could have been referencing his last name and the reporter used an A in the name so we could tell the difference between the two men.

I don't think Lindsey knew Ray back then. But Lindsey has pointed out that Ray's name was Ray Lindsay and said, "isn't that weird," prompting me to think that the guy finds a lot of things weird that are just perfectly normal.

Michele

[getTusked]

ahh thanks for clearing it up...

Also, what are the damn odds of Stevie having affairs with two guys named Lindsey? Like really? I've never known another male with that name...I can't get over it. It's also hilarious to me that she admits cheating on him yet is still pissed about the GYOW lyrics...

[michelej1]

ahh thanks for clearing it up...

Also, what are the damn odds of Stevie having affairs with two guys named Lindsey? Like really? I've never known another male with that name...

I was trying to think if I knew any man named Lindsey. I used to know a man named Leslie. Those names like Stacy, Tracy, Lindsey, Dana and Leslie were used for men, but more so in Britain than here. Today it's different. Names are very unisex now. But in the seventies, I agree it takes a bit of work to find another Lindsay to sleep with. In fact, once you do find one, you basically have to jump his bones right then and there, regardless of his personality or looks, because you can't pass up such an uncommon opportunity.

Similarly, it would require effort on Lindsey's part to find a female "Stevie".

Michele

[vivfox]

it would require effort on Lindsey's part to find a female "Stevie".


Somewhere way back in Stevie's family tree a Nicks married a Buckingham. For real.

[michelej1]

Somewhere way back in Stevie's family tree a Nicks married a Buckingham. For real.

I always thought it was really significant that Lucille Ball's middle name was "Desiree" and Desi's full name is "Desidero." Both words mean desired.

Michele

[getTusked]

:thumbsup: But in the seventies, I agree it takes a bit of work to find another Lindsay to sleep with. In fact, once you do find one, you basically have to jump his bones right then and there, regardless of his personality or looks, because you can't pass up such an uncommon opportunity.

Similarly, it would require effort on Lindsey's part to find a female "Stevie".

Michele

Ha, agreed with the jumping bones of any other "Lindsey" you come in contact with!

I always wondered when and how often Lindsey ever referred to Stevie as Stephanie. I mean it's had to have happened a few times, especially early on. I would pay to see or hear that... Like when he's mad or they are fighting...

[Stormwind]

Somewhere way back in Stevie's family tree a Nicks married a Buckingham. For real.

ahh thanks for clearing it up...

Also, what are the damn odds of Stevie having affairs with two guys named Lindsey? Like really? I've never known another male with that name...I can't get over it. It's also hilarious to me that she admits cheating on him yet is still pissed about the GYOW lyrics...

I agree :lol:

but the funny thing for me is that there are millions of stories that pop out from nowhere, now is this one, another time we'll find Lindsey was a FBI agent or something like that: nothing is impossible in this circus called Fleetwood Mac. :]

[WildHearted]

I don't think when Stevie says "I don't think we'll ever be friends" she means that there is any animosity or bad blood or anything.All the people Stevie does call friends... they're very, very close with her.. sometimes living with her. While I consider someone that I'm friendly with a friend, I don't think she does. So I think when she says that she and Lindsey aren't friends, she just means that they don't hang out all the time (in their free time), they're not going on vacation together, they're not inviting each other over for dinner once a week or talking on the phone every couple of days, etc. Which is understandable for a number of reasons.

[michelej1]

I don't think when Stevie says "I don't think we'll ever be friends" she means that there is any animosity or bad blood or anything.All the people Stevie does call friends... they're very, very close with her.. sometimes living with her. While I consider someone that I'm friendly with a friend, I don't think she does. So I think when she says that she and Lindsey aren't friends, she just means that they don't hang out all the time (in their free time), they're not going on vacation together, they're not inviting each other over for dinner once a week or talking on the phone every couple of days, etc. Which is understandable for a number of reasons.

I agree. I mean, she has said it before to describe animosity. She's said they were never friends and they never will be, in anger before. I just don't think she means it that way this time in that particular interview. Then, there was that one time where she said she thought she and Lindsey were finally becoming friends, probably around The Dance. But that didn't last:laugh:

Michele

[Lindsfan]

I don't think when Stevie says "I don't think we'll ever be friends" she means that there is any animosity or bad blood or anything.All the people Stevie does call friends... they're very, very close with her.. sometimes living with her. While I consider someone that I'm friendly with a friend, I don't think she does. So I think when she says that she and Lindsey aren't friends, she just means that they don't hang out all the time (in their free time), they're not going on vacation together, they're not inviting each other over for dinner once a week or talking on the phone every couple of days, etc. Which is understandable for a number of reasons.

That makes complete sense, that that's what their relationship is actually like. And that's the feeling I get from Lindsey as well. But whether that's what she meant when she said that, I have no idea.

[CADreaming]

Somewhere way back in Stevie's family tree a Nicks married a Buckingham. For real.

Isn't that a hoot?!



but the funny thing for me is that there are millions of stories that pop out from nowhere, now is this one, another time we'll find Lindsey was a FBI agent or something like that:

:lol::lol: Brilliant! This will be used. ;)


That makes complete sense, that that's what their relationship is actually like. And that's the feeling I get from Lindsey as well. But whether that's what she meant when she said that, I have no idea.

What she meant was: NoneYa.