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elle
04-26-2013, 10:43 AM
There is a detailed report from Terry Makedon on Prudential M&G with Mick (http://tmakworld.com/2013/04/fleetwood_mac_concert_review_2013.html/t-mak-world-fleetwood-3).

At that particular M&G, Mick apparently said there will be 2 changes for European leg -

1. They will get rid of the moving lights that are not working properly (John McVie pointed that's great way to save money apparently ;) )

2. They will be playing Oh Well.

Mick's also hoping that during the large time gaps they have in this year's tour Stevie will add 3-4 of her songs to the ones the rest of the Mac already recorded so they can get the album out by the end of the year or start of the next.

bethelblues
04-26-2013, 11:04 AM
I wonder if there will be any more changes to the setlist. What would they drop to fit Oh Well? hmmm I don't think they will be adding without subtracting too. Maybe Lindsey will drop Not That Funny?? It should be noted that I do think that even with the extended room the setlist provides without Christine, both Lindsey and Stevie will always stick to their own songs, they will never rework a Christine song and they will never choose Blue Letter or Seven Wonders (two examples) over songs they see as their own. So if they do Oh Well again, that continues to be the only non-Lindsey Buckingham song he will do.

I doubt we'll see more than this change. But if they feel the need to go back to pre-1975 Fleetwood Mac, I'd love if they tried Albatross, which remains hugely popular in the UK, rather than Oh Well again. That reminds me: why hasn't Fleetwood Mac ever embraced medleys in their shows to fit more songs in? Since Albatross is an instrumental, I wonder if they'd be able to combine that with Oh Well, or use it to play into Oh Well as a tribute to the older blues incarnation. I don't know, they'd probably never do that or spend the time to get something like that right.

Another point: the song Everywhere actually charted this year in the UK, the only Fleetwood Mac song. I wonder if that will play into a certain London show. Probably not.

wheart
04-26-2013, 11:14 AM
Well It's about time!!! Oh Well is an amazing song and rocks live! Great news!!

chiliD
04-26-2013, 11:20 AM
WHAT?!? The US audience isn't good enough for them to include "Oh Well" NOW??? That's BS. :mad:

And, again, they can't find it in their dark black souls to add ONE Bob Welch song in the set as a tribute to his passing? That's just downright disgusting.

HEY, MICK, how about tossing a bone or two to the fans who kept your money-grubbing a$$ a-float until Buckingham & Nicks came along!

louielouie2000
04-26-2013, 11:52 AM
WHAT?!? The US audience isn't good enough for them to include "Oh Well" NOW??? That's BS. :mad:

And, again, they can't find it in their dark black souls to add ONE Bob Welch song in the set as a tribute to his passing? That's just downright disgusting.

HEY, MICK, how about tossing a bone or two to the fans who kept your money-grubbing a$$ a-float until Buckingham & Nicks came along!

And I'm on the other side of the Oh Well coin... I just wish that song would DIE. :laugh: I can see why they'd play it in Europe, though... Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac was a much bigger deal there than later incarnations of the band, and Peter Green is basically unheard of here in the States.

However, I agree wholeheartedly that they really, really should be doing a Bob Welch song as a tribute this tour. I have to wonder if there's more to that than meets the eye, though. We know Bob sued the band for royalties some years back, and on those grounds, Christine got his entry into the Rock Hall Of Fame blocked. I wonder if there's some legal reason why the band is not performing any of Bob's songs? Perhaps it was part of the settlement? Maybe they don't want to give Wendy Welch any royalties from performing Bob's songs live due to her recent scathing online critiques of the band? :shrug:

MacShadowsBall
04-26-2013, 11:55 AM
I'm glad that Oh Well is gonna be played in Europe. I was kinda wondering if the setlist was gonna be different when they go overseas. Perhaps playing more of the Peter Green/Blues era and/or the songs that were more popular in overseas markets, like those from Tango in the Night. :cool:

PenguinHead
04-26-2013, 03:50 PM
Another point: the song Everywhere actually charted this year in the UK, the only Fleetwood Mac song. I wonder if that will play into a certain London show. Probably not.

Christine's song Everywhere, while a pleasant listen, is a lightweight gem. There are very ew songs from her catalog that Buckingham/Nicks could do justice with, but this unfortunately isn't one of them. The charm of this song rests solely with Christine.

shackin'up
04-26-2013, 03:54 PM
WHAT?!? The US audience isn't good enough for them to include "Oh Well" NOW??? That's BS. :mad:

And, again, they can't find it in their dark black souls to add ONE Bob Welch song in the set as a tribute to his passing? That's just downright disgusting.

HEY, MICK, how about tossing a bone or two to the fans who kept your money-grubbing a$$ a-float until Buckingham & Nicks came along!

Ahh come on, dude. I understand your sentiments but they plan to play your favorite song, and you p1ss acid again. They can never do good. And you hate LB's Oh Well anyway, so what's your point? I agree on Bob welch, But be fair: only hardcore macfans are waiting for such tribute. Including me, but I can't blame them for not doing so. A tribute in europe to greeny is a nice
thoughtful choice. It's the bands cradle.

MikeVielhaber
04-26-2013, 04:09 PM
It should be noted that I do think that even with the extended room the setlist provides without Christine, both Lindsey and Stevie will always stick to their own songs, they will never rework a Christine song and they will never choose Blue Letter or Seven Wonders (two examples) over songs they see as their own.


Maybe they won't on this tour since the set is already...um....set. But they aren't against doing a Christine song in theory because they did it in 2009 with "Say You Love Me".

ShangriLaTroubl
04-26-2013, 04:27 PM
I was originally hoping they would do Oh Well in the USA set like they did on the Unleashed Tour..but "oh well"!

streetangel27
04-26-2013, 05:13 PM
I'm glad they're adding Oh Well.
I wish they were doing a Bob Welch song (Hypnotized?) as tribute. But, ah...I guess that's complicated

bethelblues
04-26-2013, 05:24 PM
Christine's song Everywhere, while a pleasant listen, is a lightweight gem. There are very ew songs from her catalog that Buckingham/Nicks could do justice with, but this unfortunately isn't one of them. The charm of this song rests solely with Christine.

I think you missed my point. I said at a certain London show, alluding that they could possibly add that song with Christine onstage. But as I said, probably not. They could never pull it off otherwise---though some of her other songs, Little Lies for instance, I'm convinced could work if Lindsey and Stevie slowed them down and played them more like a ballad.

bethelblues
04-26-2013, 05:28 PM
Maybe they won't on this tour since the set is already...um....set. But they aren't against doing a Christine song in theory because they did it in 2009 with "Say You Love Me".

I'm just saying that that seems to be the trend. When was the last time the band rehearsed "a new take on a very old song?" The Dance tour, though they of course have added in songs they haven't played in a long time or at all (I'm talking changing the structure of the song: Rhiannon and Say You Love Me intros). Over the last few years, Lindsey and Stevie have chosen their own songs over songs that were written for them or re-adapting a Christine song or pre-1975 Mac song (a la Albatross would be amazing!! and I'd prefer that over Lindsey performing Oh Well again). Like I said, some kind of medley tribute, Albatross intro + Oh Well, would be really cool...I just feel like they probably don't want to put all that effort into reworking and relearning songs they really haven't played before. All that being said, I think my first point was that if they add Oh Well, what song will they drop??

TerraRhiannon
04-26-2013, 08:04 PM
I agree on Bob welch, But be fair: only hardcore macfans are waiting for such tribute.

And that is such a smaller portion of their fans, I think anyway. I might be wrong but from my observations that's what I gather.. here in the US, anyway. Was Albatross a Bob Welch song? Cause if it is, they should at least perform that one in Europe, come on guys!

MikeVielhaber
04-26-2013, 08:11 PM
And that is such a smaller portion of their fans, I think anyway. I might be wrong but from my observations that's what I gather.. here in the US, anyway. Was Albatross a Bob Welch song? Cause if it is, they should at least perform that one in Europe, come on guys!

Nope, that one's Peter Green.

TerraRhiannon
04-26-2013, 08:13 PM
Nope, that one's Peter Green.

Wow, I'm ignorant. How about Sentimental Lady? :cool:

streetangel27
04-27-2013, 07:06 PM
Wow, I'm ignorant. How about Sentimental Lady? :cool:

That is a Bob Welch song. And one of his best!

bethelblues
04-27-2013, 07:38 PM
What would they drop for Oh Well??

michelej1
04-27-2013, 08:47 PM
What would they drop for Oh Well??

I would hope not NTF, but that seems like a good candidate.

Michele

elle
04-27-2013, 09:00 PM
I would hope not NTF, but that seems like a good candidate.

Michele

i hope Not That Funny will not be dropped. Not That Funny and Sad Angel are 2 songs that really give flavor to this tour and differentiate it from their other greatest hits tours.
i know hardcores may say SOTM gives this tour a flavor, but that song is not that significant to most general audiences or mentioned specifically in reviews. and frankly although SOTM is a great song , and i'm glad it's in the set, this tour version is just ok. NTF is superb, tight, fast and different from previous versions.

if it needs to be LB song that's dropped to add a PG song, than i hope it's Eyes, however great that one is too. but it's not that different from SYW tour version. although NTF and Eyes are both mentioned in many reviews, and great drumbeat is also mentioned with both. of course, half of the reviewers think Eyes is the 2nd new song, besides Sad Angel. :laugh:

what should be dropped is Sara. Tusk set would be much tighter without it. NTF, Tusk and SOTM represent Tusk with all it's weirdness and cultness really nicely.

or maybe Mirage 2-some can be replaced with Oh Well and something else?

what is nice in the current setlist is that there's a Tusk 4-song set and Mirage 2-song set plus SYW representative (although that would not be the one i'd pick but it works well as a slow closer that FM seems to be so fond of).

shackin'up
04-28-2013, 04:52 AM
They are going to stick to the Tusk celebration, I guess. They'll butch Eyes Of The World for Oh Well, I think. I'd love it if World Turning would be axed for a powerful three minute Oh Well and a 4-5 minute Hypnotized.

Ulpian
04-28-2013, 06:54 AM
They are going to stick to the Tusk celebration, I guess. They'll butch Eyes Of The World for Oh Well, I think. I'd love it if World Turning would be axed for a powerful three minute Oh Well and a 4-5 minute Hypnotized.

I agree. I think Eyes will go. I'm not that bothered, having seen pretty much that same version on the SYW tour. I really quite like the version of Oh Well which LB did on the Unleashed tour, so I'll be happy. :D

olive
04-28-2013, 08:43 AM
maybe they'll just might change up the set list this summer when they return to some of the same cities they just played in

bethelblues
04-28-2013, 09:59 AM
Does Fleetwood Mac have a tradition of changing their setlist during the middle of a tour? Is that something we could expect?

I know in 2004 they switched Beautiful Child for Sara. But when they come back to certain cities in June, I really don't think anything will be different. If anything, I have a feeling the only changes will be Oh Well in the Europe Leg AND the small possibility for a change at Christine's London show. I just wish that they were a little more interesting and added Albatross--that one is still played in the UK today, people would love to hear that rather than a song they played on the last tour.

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Something I wanted to say: I'm actually more disappointed with Lindsey for some of his choices in the set than Stevie. Stevie absolutely has to do most of the songs: I was at the concert---people jumped up when she sang Gypsy, Rhiannon, Dreams, Gold Dust Woman, Sara, Landslide. She has the biggest fanbase and people expect to hear her classics. Honestly, she only has 1-2 spots in any Fleetwood Mac concert for something different, and she chose Sisters of the Moon. Her only option, I think, would be to put a new take on one of the songs, but since Stevie missed some of the rehearsals and isn't known for changing up songs, that was never going to happen. With Lindsey not having as many songs he absolutely has to do, I wish he picked differently from Not That Funny AND Eyes of the World. Those two have been done before and I actually thought they were the ones that took the life out of the show, when people were leaving their seats (not Sara as some people have stated on here)...another cut from Tusk (What Makes You Think You're The One, or The Ledge if an uptempo song was needed), Bleed To Love Her, Blue Letter, a Stevie duet with Thrown Down, I Don't Want To Know, or Crystal all would have been infinitely more interesting choices in my opinion.

StandbackStevie
04-28-2013, 10:20 AM
If they were going to do a tribute to the late legendary great Bob Welch I would have love to hear them do Hypnotized I think Lindsey and Stevie can do it well. I am glad I saw the show at mohegan sun arena 8 days ago awesome show.I don't know how much longer can pay high prices for tickets if that was my last FM concert it was an amazing show to leave on it.If they do another album and tour next summer I hope the prices will be more reasonable next year if not will not be going even if it is there last tour which I doubt it would be cheaper,I really think this past show I went on at mohegan sun arena on April 20,2013 was my last I want to say,It was a great show to leave on and I don't want to pay high money for a ticket and see a bad show so far they are still playing awesome and was happy with the tickets I had and the show was amazing.


I love the original fleetwood mac songs as well. I love Oh Well,Black Magic Woman,Albatross ect. If it was not for Oh Well Jimmy Page of Led Zepplin wouldn't not have written Black Dog.

Ulpian
04-28-2013, 10:22 AM
Does Fleetwood Mac have a tradition of changing their setlist during the middle of a tour? Is that something we could expect?

I know in 2004 they switched Beautiful Child for Sara. But when they come back to certain cities in June, I really don't think anything will be different. If anything, I have a feeling the only changes will be Oh Well in the Europe Leg AND the small possibility for a change at Christine's London show. I just wish that they were a little more interesting and added Albatross--that one is still played in the UK today, people would love to hear that rather than a song they played on the last tour.

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Something I wanted to say: I'm actually more disappointed with Lindsey for some of his choices in the set than Stevie. Stevie absolutely has to do most of the songs: I was at the concert---people jumped up when she sang Gypsy, Rhiannon, Dreams, Gold Dust Woman, Sara, Landslide. She has the biggest fanbase and people expect to hear her classics. Honestly, she only has 1-2 spots in any Fleetwood Mac concert for something different, and she chose Sisters of the Moon. Her only option, I think, would be to put a new take on one of the songs, but since Stevie missed some of the rehearsals and isn't known for changing up songs, that was never going to happen. With Lindsey not having as many songs he absolutely has to do, I wish he picked differently from Not That Funny AND Eyes of the World. Those two have been done before and I actually thought they were the ones that took the life out of the show, when people were leaving their seats (not Sara as some people have stated on here)...another cut from Tusk (What Makes You Think You're The One, or The Ledge if an uptempo song was needed), Bleed To Love Her, Blue Letter, a Stevie duet with Thrown Down, I Don't Want To Know, or Crystal all would have been infinitely more interesting choices in my opinion.

Honestly, I think any of his deep cuts are used as an excuse for a bathroom break by many. I remember in 09 that Go Insane and IKINW were met with evacuations to the bar/toilets, particularly the former.

TerraRhiannon
04-28-2013, 10:39 AM
Bleed To Love Her is so pretty. But the more I think about it, the more it's not really about the songs for me, but more of what's the most exciting and can keep my dancing and singing the most.

That's why I think Not That Funny and Eyes Of The World were good choices here, they are uptempo and interesting.. As much as I love Bleed To Love Her, I'd rather he replace Big Love with BTLH ,. That way the flow of the show would stay the same, in my option. As opposed to him replacing Eyes of the World or NTF with Bleed To Love Her.

As for where they should put 'Oh Well..' I think they should put it where 'Without You' is. ;) right in the middle of the set.

Ulpian
04-28-2013, 10:55 AM
Bleed To Love Her is so pretty. But the more I think about it, the more it's not really about the songs for me, but more of what's the most exciting and can keep my dancing and singing the most.

That's why I think Not That Funny and Eyes Of The World were good choices here, they are uptempo and interesting.. As much as I love Bleed To Love Her, I'd rather he replace Big Love with BTLH ,. That way the flow of the show would stay the same, in my option. As opposed to him replacing Eyes of the World or NTF with Bleed To Love Her.

As for where they should put 'Oh Well..' I think they should put it where 'Without You' is. ;) right in the middle of the set.

I really like BTLH too, though without the three of them singing it I'd not be so much of a fan.

If he took out Big Love, TITN wouldn't be represented at all and that would make me sad.

MikeVielhaber
04-28-2013, 11:11 AM
I know in 2004 they switched Beautiful Child for Sara.

I saw them in June 2004 and I know Sara was new, but not at the expense of Beautiful Child. They played them both. I don't know what they dropped.

Ulpian
04-28-2013, 11:15 AM
I saw them in June 2004 and I know Sara was new, but not at the expense of Beautiful Child. They played them both. I don't know what they dropped.

It was Gypsy.

bethelblues
04-28-2013, 11:26 AM
Good catch. I absolutely meant Gypsy.

I'd also be upset if Tango in the Night wasn't represented. But the truth is Christine's songs carried that album: Little Lies, Everywhere, Isn't It Midnight. Without her presence, many of the songs on that album are sadly ruled out (unless the band was game for working on a new arrangement to one of those songs). I don't know if Lindsey would ever consider a full-band version of Big Love, since the acoustic version is a great opportunity for him to show off his guitar playing. And as I've said on here before, I don't think Stevie will go with Seven Wonders, not only due to the vocal demand but also because she didn't write it and it wouldn't be the first song to come to mind.

MikeVielhaber
04-28-2013, 12:12 PM
Good catch. I absolutely meant Gypsy.

I'd also be upset if Tango in the Night wasn't represented. But the truth is Christine's songs carried that album: Little Lies, Everywhere, Isn't It Midnight. Without her presence, many of the songs on that album are sadly ruled out (unless the band was game for working on a new arrangement to one of those songs). I don't know if Lindsey would ever consider a full-band version of Big Love, since the acoustic version is a great opportunity for him to show off his guitar playing. And as I've said on here before, I don't think Stevie will go with Seven Wonders, not only due to the vocal demand but also because she didn't write it and it wouldn't be the first song to come to mind.

Sure would be cool to see Lindsey give "Tango in the Night" a go.

streetangel27
04-28-2013, 12:28 PM
If they were going to do a tribute to the late legendary great Bob Welch I would have love to hear them do Hypnotized I think Lindsey and Stevie can do it well. I am glad I saw the show at mohegan sun arena 8 days ago awesome show.I don't know how much longer can pay high prices for tickets if that was my last FM concert it was an amazing show to leave on it.If they do another album and tour next summer I hope the prices will be more reasonable next year.I love the original fleetwood mac songs as well. I love Oh Well,Black Magic Woman,Albatross ect. If it was not for Oh Well Jimmy Page of Led Zepplin wouldn't not have written Black Dog.

It really would be great for them to do Hypnotized. I doubt it will happen at this point...

Ulpian
04-28-2013, 12:52 PM
Sure would be cool to see Lindsey give "Tango in the Night" a go.

Yes, or Caroline. Sadly, probably the non-Ledgies would use the opportunity to buy a drink :s

I heard that the guitar solo on the song TITN came out of the live version of ISA, so I wonder if he'd have to drop ISA?

All a pipe dream of course!

bethelblues
04-28-2013, 01:01 PM
I'm curious: has Lindsey ever played those Tango in the Night songs (Tango in the Night, Family Man, Caroline) in his solo tours?

Maybe when he does the request tour we'll finally be able to hear them. I wonder if he could pull off Isn't It Midnight? I love that song.

elle
04-28-2013, 01:05 PM
Yes, or Caroline. Sadly, probably the non-Ledgies would use the opportunity to buy a drink :s

I heard that the guitar solo on the song TITN came out of the live version of ISA, so I wonder if he'd have to drop ISA?

All a pipe dream of course!

exactly.

also, Caroline? people?? seriously??

someone here was saying SN must do all past hits. she didn't do Sara or Gypsy at some of the recent tours / legs, so there's absolutely no need to do these now as it wasn't then. i was watching the audience too on her songs, and the 2 songs of hers that are absolute must and get HUGE audience response immediately when they start are Gold Dust Woman and Landslide. that's it.

sometimes Dreams once people figure out it's "thunder only happens" song. :laugh: Rhiannon and Gypsy opening riffs are very recognizable but didn't see casual people going completely nuts like they did on GDW, Landslide and Never Going Back Again (of all songs).

of Lindsey's songs, other than immediately recognizing SHN (which you can argue he needs to do, but he doesn't every time), GYOW, and NGBA, people go nuts once he plays Big Love and So Afraid. so those 2 definitely cannot be replaced - other than audience reaction those are mentioned in almost every single review and tweeted like crazy during every single show. these songs are showcases that "they still got it" that they are not nostalgia act. plus Not That Funny and Sad Angel of course.

Seven Wonders and Blue Letter are cutesy pop songs, but nothing more. people would go to bathroom breaks during those and general audiences don't know them. they don't add any edge or meaning or relevance to them as a band or their show. so i really don't understand why people keep calling for them. :shrug:

elle
04-28-2013, 01:09 PM
I'm curious: has Lindsey ever played those Tango in the Night songs (Tango in the Night, Family Man, Caroline) in his solo tours?

Maybe when he does the request tour we'll finally be able to hear them. I wonder if he could pull off Isn't It Midnight? I love that song.

not that i know of. and i hope he never does play Caroline or Family Man. :laugh:

i don't care at all about Isn't It Midnight, but he can play it at your request tour stop. ;) :D

Tango would be interesting.

i'm pretty sure Lindsey could pull of anything, he's been reworking different songs different ways in the last few tours. :thumbsup:

surprisingly, he seems to just go through the motions for SOTM, GDW, and some of the other SN songs... maybe because he's got so many criticisms the last tour how he's "showing off" so he decided to let her shine instead. :shrug: ;)

MikeVielhaber
04-28-2013, 01:18 PM
I always wondered how people can go to the restroom so much. It's almost like they go just to make a point. "You better keep my interest or I'm leaving my seat the first chance I get" I went to the rest room one time during a concert, but that's because I forgot to go prior. And one other time I also forgot to go, but held it in (even though it was getting pretty urgent) until the show ended. Other than that I've never left to go to the restroom or concessions (with the price of concessions that's a one time thing, if I go at all, and it's before the show starts)

elle
04-28-2013, 01:20 PM
I always wondered how people can go to the restroom so much.

guess many people go to shows to get drunk and party. if you drink beer, well... you know lol.

elle
04-28-2013, 01:28 PM
re which song(s) can be replaced discussion, maybe something to consider are results of this poll right here on TL (it didn't have all songs as a choice of course, but of the ones offered):

Poll Results: Pick 3 songs as your favorite performances on this tour...so far.

Sad Angel 34
Sisters of the Moon 27
I'm So Afraid 16
Without You 13

Gold Dust Woman 9
The Chain 8
Silver Springs 8
Say Goodbye 8
Go Your Own Way 7

Other...reply back your choice(s) 15

interestingly, of the setlist staples, the only song that successfully competed with the new or newly introduced songs (and got more votes than "new" Without You"!) is I'm So Afraid. :nod:

Ulpian
04-28-2013, 01:34 PM
exactly.

also, Caroline? people?? seriously??

someone here was saying SN must do all past hits. she didn't do Sara or Gypsy at some of the recent tours / legs, so there's absolutely no need to do these now as it wasn't then. i was watching the audience too on her songs, and the 2 songs of hers that are absolute must and get HUGE audience response immediately when they start are Gold Dust Woman and Landslide. that's it.

sometimes Dreams once people figure out it's "thunder only happens" song. :laugh: Rhiannon and Gypsy opening riffs are very recognizable but didn't see casual people going completely nuts like they did on GDW, Landslide and Never Going Back Again (of all songs).

of Lindsey's songs, other than immediately recognizing SHN (which you can argue he needs to do, but he doesn't every time), GYOW, and NGBA, people go nuts once he plays Big Love and So Afraid. so those 2 definitely cannot be replaced - other than audience reaction those are mentioned in almost every single review and tweeted like crazy during every single show. these songs are showcases that "they still got it" that they are not nostalgia act. plus Not That Funny and Sad Angel of course.

Seven Wonders and Blue Letter are cutesy pop songs, but nothing more. people would go to bathroom breaks during those and general audiences don't know them. they don't add any edge or meaning or relevance to them as a band or their show. so i really don't understand why people keep calling for them. :shrug:

I can only speak as a UK fan, but since TITN was such a huge hit here, Seven Wonders seems like a glaring omission when they play here. I've been to concerts where shouts have been hurled to that effect! This is particularly true with Christine gone and so the late 80s barely gets a look-in.

elle
04-28-2013, 01:40 PM
I can only speak as a UK fan, but since TITN was such a huge hit here, Seven Wonders seems like a glaring omission when they play here. I've been to concerts where shouts have been hurled to that effect! This is particularly true with Christine gone and so the late 80s barely gets a look-in.

true, i don't know how it is in the UK.

i do know Big Love acoustic seems to be a huge hit in France, judging by UL boots. but you can argue that current BL version is 90s song, not 80s, and became big during The Dance.

but would Caroline, Tango or SW really satisfy (or just even more disappoint?) fans of Everywhere and Little Lies which were really the 2 huge hits that you still hear?

Ulpian
04-28-2013, 01:55 PM
true, i don't know how it is in the UK.

i do know Big Love acoustic seems to be a huge hit in France, judging by UL boots. but you can argue that current BL version is 90s song, not 80s, and became big during The Dance.

but would Caroline, Tango or SW really satisfy (or just even more disappoint?) fans of Everywhere and Little Lies which were really the 2 huge hits that you still hear?

Seven Wonders would be a nice nod to the success of that album here. We deserve some acknowledgement other than Oh Well. After all, we kept them afloat at difficult times -- BTM was a #1 album here, don't forget ;) ;)

bethelblues
04-28-2013, 02:23 PM
not that i know of. and i hope he never does play Caroline or Family Man. :laugh:

i don't care at all about Isn't It Midnight, but he can play it at your request tour stop. ;) :D

Tango would be interesting.

I'm not calling for Family Man or Caroline. I was just asking if there were any performances of other songs from Tango in the Night besides Big Love.

I love Lindsey's guitar-work on Isn't It Midnight (and Seven Wonders for that matter), that was why I mentioned it. Come to think of it, that's a Christine single that I think Buckingham-Nicks could do a decent rendition of.


i'm pretty sure Lindsey could pull of anything, he's been reworking different songs different ways in the last few tours. :thumbsup:

surprisingly, he seems to just go through the motions for SOTM, GDW, and some of the other SN songs... maybe because he's got so many criticisms the last tour how he's "showing off" so he decided to let her shine instead. :shrug: ;)

I'd love to see an acoustic rendition of Gypsy. I saw a lot of people getting into that song at Madison Square Garden. It's been pretty consistently in the Mac setlists since the Dance, except for the second leg from 2004, right? (where Sara took its place) Stevie doesn't do it in her solo tours, so I do think there is a sense she has to do Gypsy.

I do wish Lindsey's guitar was more prominent on Sisters and Sara. I've said Sisters needs a more prominent, intense guitar sound, and that Sara needs the guitarwork Lindsey used to include, especially at the beginning (you probably know what I'm talking about, heard on older live recordings).

I'm not calling for Big Love or So Afraid changes--no way, those two are the guitar showpieces. I wish more people remember how much they loved those moments in the show and attended Lindsey's solo tours.


interestingly, of the setlist staples, the only song that successfully competed with the new or newly introduced songs (and got more votes than "new" Without You"!) is I'm So Afraid.

Remember, this poll is directed at Ledgies, many of whom have seen every tour in recent years. I bet if you asked random people coming out of the show, they'd cite more of the standards (likely the Stevie songs).


Seven Wonders would be a nice nod to the success of that album here. We deserve some acknowledgement other than Oh Well. After all, we kept them afloat at difficult times -- BTM was a #1 album here, don't forget ;) ;)

I remember someone on here wrote about Albatross is still repeatedly played in the UK. It'd be nice if that one made it in. Maybe Christine will give you Everywhere or Little Lies when she plays in London?

elle
04-28-2013, 02:40 PM
I'm not calling for Big Love or So Afraid changes--no way, those two are the guitar showpieces. I wish more people remember how much they loved those moments in the show and attended Lindsey's solo tours.

Remember, this poll is directed at Ledgies, many of whom have seen every tour in recent years. I bet if you asked random people coming out of the show, they'd cite more of the standards (likely the Stevie songs).

yes, and ledgies are really the ones calling for exclusion of ISA, b/c they keep saying they've heard it too many times. just look around various set wishlist threads. :shrug:

tweets and reviews are general audience. 2 songs you get consistent barrage of loving and admiring tweets at practically every show are Landslide and I'm So Afraid.

michelej1
04-28-2013, 02:43 PM
I always wondered how people can go to the restroom so much. It's almost like they go just to make a point. "You better keep my interest or I'm leaving my seat the first chance I get" I went to the rest room one time during a concert, but that's because I forgot to go prior. And one other time I also forgot to go, but held it in (even though it was getting pretty urgent) until the show ended. Other than that I've never left to go to the restroom or concessions (with the price of concessions that's a one time thing, if I go at all, and it's before the show starts)

Yes, I never go to the restroom either. First of all, I don't like the hassle of getting in and out of the arena, showing my ticket and what not. Secondly, I can't stand public restrooms, even ones a lot less trafficked than those. So, I have to overcome a huge mental block even to use one under normal circumstances, let alone when I'm at a concert for performers I love. Also, I don't usually go to the concession stand and one reason is I can't drink anything, if I'm resolute about not going to the restroom:laugh:.

But even aside from that, if I loved going to the bathroom, I still wouldn't as a point of honor when it came to my favorite band.

Michele

michelej1
04-28-2013, 02:48 PM
Does Fleetwood Mac have a tradition of changing their setlist during the middle of a tour? Is that something we could expect?



I don't know if it's a tradition, but between tour legs, they usually do change a couple of songs, if the break is long enough.

Michele

Ulpian
04-28-2013, 02:48 PM
I remember someone on here wrote about Albatross is still repeatedly played in the UK. It'd be nice if that one made it in. Maybe Christine will give you Everywhere or Little Lies when she plays in London?

I think Little Lies is extremely unlikely; they claimed not to be able to make it work in 1997, so I doubt they'd put a load of work in this time around for a one-off. I suppose if she was willing to sing lead on her own then Everywhere is a possibility, but she hinted that she'd only do 'duets' in a recent interview. I think if she does it we all pretty much accept she will come on for the encores.

michelej1
04-28-2013, 02:50 PM
IKINW were met with evacuations to the bar/toilets, particularly the former.

IKINW really rocked too. I felt it captured people who didn't know it, just due to the rollicking beat and the enthusiasm of the performance from both Stevie and Lindsey. Stevie was as active during that as she is for SHN.

Michele

michelej1
04-28-2013, 02:56 PM
I don't know if they consider AHI an anomaly or if there was something about it they didn't like, but you'd think acoustic Gypsy isn't something we'd have to sell them on, since it's something they've experienced. I think they feel that the song tends to languish already and that it's one they're open to changing, so I don't quite understand why they don't.

Anytime you quiet things down and you get closer to the edge of the stage and make the audience think they're being included in something intimate, I think they appreciate it more. The intricacy and concentration. Like an exfoliate, acoustic seems to shake off the glitter, open the pores and let you absorb the sound better. It would be a way to give Gypsy new life.

Michele

Ulpian
04-28-2013, 03:22 PM
I don't know if they consider AHI an anomaly or if there was something about it they didn't like, but you'd think acoustic Gypsy isn't something we'd have to sell them on, since it's something they've experienced. I think they feel that the song tends to languish already and that it's one they're open to changing, so I don't quite understand why they don't.

Anytime you quiet things down and you get closer to the edge of the stage and make the audience think they're being included in something intimate, I think they appreciate it more. The intricacy and concentration. Like an exfoliate, acoustic seems to shake off the glitter, open the pores and let you absorb the sound better. It would be a way to give Gypsy new life.

Michele

I'd never heard that version until just now. Beautiful and IMO better than the current live version.

bethelblues
04-28-2013, 04:32 PM
Is this the version you're thinking of? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5HeRgOVOMw

This was absolutely wonderful, and can accommodate the vocal changes Stevie has made to the song in recent years. If it's a song that's impossible to capture the studio magic live, why not change it up?