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FierySequences
04-23-2013, 10:52 PM
I saw this interview recently (can't remember if it was written or a video, think the latter), where Stevie talks very candidly about Klon and when she gave the drug to a friend in small dosage. They go to confront the Dr. and then she realizes this could kill her.

It's important to me to find this. A very close friend of mine takes it (not sure of the dosage or how frequent). I have told him time and again about SN addiction, but it seems to fall on deaf ears. It is really clouding his judgement and at this point I am ready to be quite frank with him and risk losing the friendship. If he continues on I may lose him anyway.

The Catdancer
04-23-2013, 11:03 PM
She talked about it on Oprah's Masterclass. I think it's on youtube. She didn't give Glenn Parrish a small dose, she gave him exactly what the dr prescribed for her and he passed out. Good luck with your friend.

FierySequences
04-23-2013, 11:07 PM
Thank You CatDancer! I thought/knew it was recent.

thx again

Fireflies
04-24-2013, 02:44 AM
A very close friend of mine takes it (not sure of the dosage or how frequent). I have told him time and again about SN addiction, but it seems to fall on deaf ears. It is really clouding his judgement and at this point I am ready to be quite frank with him and risk losing the friendship. If he continues on I may lose him anyway.


from the other side of the mirror liner notes: to Richard Metzner for his extraordinary compassion...

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e240/forcemajure/ledge/cvcd/StevieNicksPiills1.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e240/forcemajure/ledge/cvcd/StevieNicksPiills2.jpg

FierySequences
04-24-2013, 07:29 AM
Thx again for the info, peeps.

I researched this "Dr." and his ratings are pretty favorable. Gee...I wonder why:rolleyes:

vivfox
04-24-2013, 11:29 AM
Dear FierySequences, please don't end your friendship with someone because they refuse to take your advice. Your friend might be just fine on Klonopin. Not everyone who takes it turns into a zombie. Friend's are supposed to be there for each other, not judge and dump them because you disagree with the medication they are taking prescribed by their doctor.

louielouie2000
04-24-2013, 11:52 AM
Dear FierySequences, please don't end your friendship with someone because they refuse to take your advice. Your friend might be just fine on Klonopin. Not everyone who takes it turns into a zombie. Friend's are supposed to be there for each other, not judge and dump them because you disagree with the medication they are taking prescribed by their doctor.

Agreed. Stevie had a problem with Klonopin because she's a recovering addict. She simply replaced her cocaine addiction with a Klonopin addiction. This really is a matter that is only the business of your friend and his doctor. Just because Stevie Nicks says Klonopin is evil doesn't mean that it's gospel & the final word on the drug. Let's not forget how out of touch, misinformed, and flighty the woman is. I adore her to death, but she's not someone I would ever take medical advice from. That's what doctors are for.

TerraRhiannon
04-24-2013, 12:05 PM
Agreed with Louie and Viv., let your friend's doctor decide what's best for him. If they've never had a previous addiction they will most likely be fine.. and if they take it when it's prescribed. I think Stevie's doctor was upping it intentionally and causing more harm to her than good. Poor thing.

I take 'Alprazolam.' I take it everyday I have anxiety, but on days where I don't, my body doesn't beg me for it, as in, I'm not addicted to it. If drugs like Xanax and Klonopin aren't abused it's usually quite helpful, not deadly. You want your friend to feel normal, and not hurt anymore, right? It took me a LONG time to ask for help.

Also, the interview you were referring to, FierySequences, is the episode of Oprah Masterclass she was on, it was aired this season.

MikeInNV
04-24-2013, 08:43 PM
Agreed. Stevie had a problem with Klonopin because she's a recovering addict. She simply replaced her cocaine addiction with a Klonopin addiction. This really is a matter that is only the business of your friend and his doctor. Just because Stevie Nicks says Klonopin is evil doesn't mean that it's gospel & the final word on the drug. Let's not forget how out of touch, misinformed, and flighty the woman is. I adore her to death, but she's not someone I would ever take medical advice from. That's what doctors are for.

While I agree with you, I want to mention that I know two people who were prescribed Klonopin for very valid reasons, and even though they didn't take it anywhere near as long as Stevie, neither had a very good time of it. One friend gained a lot of weight, and the other had a really hard time weening himself off of it. I would be a little leery if I were ever to be prescribed it.

Also, while one can argue that Stevie is responsible for her own actions, what on earth was the doctor thinking? He knew she was a recovering addict, and under what circumstances would it ever be justifiable to prescribe that dose for that long? He was the doctor; he should know better whether Stevie did or not.

kak125
04-24-2013, 09:18 PM
my sister isnt on klonopin but something close to it for like 10 years its freaking crazy! she has gained so much weight on it and instead of helping her she said that it is now making her agitated and angry. she takes 1 pill in the morning and if she misses her dose by a few hours she will get a really bad migraine so for now her doctor is lowering her dose to see if she can avoid the migraines and then if that doesnt work he said he will give her prozac for a while and then he will step her down off that.
my good friend has been taking lexapro for years and he tried to stop taking it before and it made him so sick and he got the shakes really bad so he just started taking it again. i told him he has to do it through his doctor because some people get so sick while weaning off of it. i know there have been times my family has wanted me to get on various meds to help with depression and anxiety but i refuse to because i dont want to go through that crap later on. i dont like what it does to the people i have known that take it. they cant even cry its awful. i think its ridiculous too for these docs to just keep medicating people instead of insisting they go to therapy.

FierySequences
04-24-2013, 10:26 PM
woooh...thanks for all the advice and feedback. Perhaps I didn't make myself clear in the first post. I'm not going to end the friendship, I'm afraid if I stage an intervention this may end our friendship by him, not me.

This guy is dating someone (and took him back) after the "psycho" boyfriend tried to wreck my friends car with him in it, hit him, took the keys out of the ignition while the car was still running (on another incident) and then tried to through a brick through the windshield. And my friend still took him back. This is what I meant by "cloudy" judgement and decisions.

No one, especially me is being judgemental here. I love vodka and wine. We all have our vices and I'm certainly not perfect. Only concerned.

Thanks again for everyones 2 cents.

FierySequences
04-24-2013, 10:36 PM
i think its ridiculous too for these docs to just keep medicating people instead of insisting they go to therapy.

Thank you for the sound advice. I agree therapy can do wonders for people's depression and anxiety, I am speaking from experience.

vivfox
04-25-2013, 07:09 AM
This guy is dating someone (and took him back) after the "psycho" boyfriend tried to wreck my friends car with him in it, hit him, took the keys out of the ignition while the car was still running (on another incident) and then tried to through a brick through the windshield. And my friend still took him back. This is what I meant by "cloudy" judgement and decisions.


Well there's only one explanation for this: Love is blind.

kak125
04-25-2013, 09:22 AM
Thank you for the sound advice. I agree therapy can do wonders for people's depression and anxiety, I am speaking from experience.

you are welcome and yeah i get so frustrated that so many people i know just keep popping pills without every trying to figure about why they are so depressed and have such bad anxiety in the first place. i know for myself things have got so bad sometimes that i didnt think there was a way out but thank goodness i was able to pull myself out of that despair by working out, listening to music and praying a lot. i also have an amazing hubby as well that really listens to me and tries his best to help me out as much as he can.
some people have no choice to take meds and while i agree they can really save some people's lives they also can do a lot of damage as well. i dont know why doctors dont make people go to therapy as well. i know there isnt a lot of money in it for them but they should be more concerned about the patients thats for sure. i mean what kind of doc keeps my sister on meds for over 10 years for a problem she had 10 years ago?! ugh!!

studyinscarlet
04-26-2013, 11:50 PM
Dear FierySequences, please don't end your friendship with someone because they refuse to take your advice. Your friend might be just fine on Klonopin. Not everyone who takes it turns into a zombie. Friend's are supposed to be there for each other, not judge and dump them because you disagree with the medication they are taking prescribed by their doctor.

Definitely. I take Klonopin and have for years. You cannot go by someone who abused the drug, which I'm sure Stevie did. I take it 'as perscribed' and that is all. No giving it to other people. That's ridiculous.

TheWILDheart
04-30-2013, 06:50 AM
Klonopin, like any prescribed meds, will have it's uses and it's positive effects. I don't think Stevie's issue is with the drug itself, because she'd be the first to admit that any prescribed meds are, when needed and prescribed properly, at times life saving. I think her issue was mostly that she shouldn't have been prescribed it and the doctor should've realised what was happening to her.

seekerj
04-30-2013, 09:35 AM
Agreed. Stevie had a problem with Klonopin because she's a recovering addict. She simply replaced her cocaine addiction with a Klonopin addiction. This really is a matter that is only the business of your friend and his doctor. Just because Stevie Nicks says Klonopin is evil doesn't mean that it's gospel & the final word on the drug. Let's not forget how out of touch, misinformed, and flighty the woman is. I adore her to death, but she's not someone I would ever take medical advice from. That's what doctors are for.

Although when it comes to medication, that's what pharmacists are for. They seem to know medications and their side effects and interactions with other drugs much better than doctors. Always check everything (your doctor tells you about a drug) with a pharmacist. Unless you don't care if your lungs shut down, or your throat closes, or you don't mind rashes, etc.

FierySequences
06-02-2013, 06:37 PM
Although I hate to revisit this topic, I thank you for your diverse opinions. Initially, I was seeking advice on how to stage an intervention, because I feel strongly against Klon and the likes of other prescribed drugs. I'm not Pious or perfect as some may believe. Hell, I smoked pot daily for 10+ years and it is a great alternative to controlled substances. Obviously the prescribed drugs work for some, and not for others. As many have pointed out, I am not a medical expert (and I knew that all along) and should leave the prescriptions to the MD's. I will reiterate Therapy does wonders for people, myself included. I can't see past why it couldn't work for others; but then again I am not a medical professor. Call me close-minded, if you will.

Update: Friend is recovering (in his own way) about the said “assailant” trying to assault him again. This guy (a 22yo) went to a group home for recovery and my friend is still obsessing over what happened and his “delusional” love for this said person. I have moved on career and otherwise and I am done trying to “protect” my best friend. He will live his own life and make his own decisions, influenced by medication, or not.

Thank you all again for your experience and advice, whether positive or otherwise. I appreciate the feedback. Thank you for the positive posts and encouragement from the genuine people here; your input is wise and well taken. Have a great night and summer.

P.S. One more statement to the (“seemingly well”) posters: Do not try to mince my words or question me. Everything put forth is well intended and genuine on my part and I will not justify them.

justdreamin
06-03-2013, 08:49 AM
All the best to you and your friend.

PenguinHead
06-04-2013, 09:24 AM
I saw this interview recently (can't remember if it was written or a video, think the latter), where Stevie talks very candidly about Klon and when she gave the drug to a friend in small dosage. They go to confront the Dr. and then she realizes this could kill her.

It's important to me to find this. A very close friend of mine takes it (not sure of the dosage or how frequent). I have told him time and again about SN addiction, but it seems to fall on deaf ears. It is really clouding his judgement and at this point I am ready to be quite frank with him and risk losing the friendship. If he continues on I may lose him anyway.

I admire you compassion and concern for your friend. At the very least, please try to stop him if he shows any signs that he is about to write a bunch of songs of questionable quality!

KarmaContestant
06-04-2013, 10:26 AM
The obsession with pharmaceuticals in America has got to be addressed. Suicide from depression has eclipsed car accidents as a cause of death (I just read this yesterday). Pills are not a solution - be they for mood, anxiety, depression or cholesterol - they are only a temporary fix. You have to fix yourself.

To anyone struggling with medication, I encourage you to examine your lifestyle, your choices, your relationships, your diet, your job and your education. These are most likely the leading factors in your misery. It's easier to change your lifestyle and habits (yes, it *really* is) than it is to break free of a pharmaceutical that was, in all likelihood, only prescribed to you because your doctor got a kickback from the manufacturer.

I'm not saying to take your medical care into your own hands - I'm just saying to be sure you've taken a good look within before you go looking for a magic pill to solve all of your problems. Don't live your life as a lab rat.

michelej1
06-04-2013, 01:27 PM
I admire you compassion and concern for your friend. At the very least, please try to stop him if he shows any signs that he is about to write a bunch of songs of questionable quality!

:laugh: But did Stevie write horrible songs from 1987-1993 or did she just stop writing altogether?

Michele

JWS
06-07-2013, 11:03 PM
from the other side of the mirror liner notes: to Richard Metzner for his extraordinary compassion...

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e240/forcemajure/ledge/cvcd/StevieNicksPiills1.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e240/forcemajure/ledge/cvcd/StevieNicksPiills2.jpg

Stevie buys at Thrifty? There is a Thrifty on Wilshire in Santa Monica.

evenstevie23
07-30-2013, 01:18 PM
:laugh: But did Stevie write horrible songs from 1987-1993 or did she just stop writing altogether?

Michele

Didn't know quite where to interject my question Michele but I know from reading your posts, you might be able to tell me. I was watching Stevie's concert at The Wiltern in 2011 (I think) on YouTube where she closes with "LOVE IS." I love this song. She states here and I also heard her state it from the IYD's that someone came and stayed with her during her klonopin addiction stay at the hospital and "saved her life." Several have speculated who they thought that someone was. I have never heard her state who that "someone" might be. Do you or other folk's here know? My curiosity only. Thanks so much.

michelej1
07-30-2013, 02:04 PM
Several have speculated who they thought that someone was. I have never heard her state who that "someone" might be. Do you or other folk's here know? My curiosity only. Thanks so much.

I'm not sure what Stevie said during the Q & A sessions for IYD that gave confirmation to Dallas Taylor, but ultimately they felt she verified him as it.

Michele

DashingDan
07-30-2013, 02:10 PM
Listen, she LOVES drugs/stimulants; caffeine (always with the coffee..even when a bug flies into her mouth she doesn't ask for water), nicotine (ciggies, then nicotine gum--always chomping) , downers, THC, uppers, booze, anti-inflammatory steroids taken in pill and injection form, vick's vapor rub...

evenstevie23
07-30-2013, 05:00 PM
I'm not sure what Stevie said during the Q & A sessions for IYD that gave confirmation to Dallas Taylor, but ultimately they felt she verified him as it.

Michele

Thanks ma'am. I know someone had said they thought it was Mick Fleetwood. At the time she said at the Wiltern that she and Lori had "found" the "LOVE IS" demo tape a year before which would have been 2010 ?, I have it on my "Trouble in Shangrilai" CD which came out earlier (am I right or wrong). Sometimes I think Stevie gets a little confused on dates but then so do I. She is two years older than I am. Old timer's.