View Full Version : PHILLY 4/6 -Who is going?!
AbbiJoy78
04-05-2013, 03:23 PM
Ok, I was a nervous wreck all day because my tickets that were mailed Weds still had on their tracking that they hadn't left that city yet to get to me by today as promised. I nearly pooped myself with worry all day. But then they came! But I wasn't home, being at work, so I have to run to the post office tomorrow! AHHH the stress:distress:
I will be sitting Floor 3, Row 12, I think seats 8 & 9 with my man. He is excited because 31 years ago, Fleetwood Mac was his very first show for the Mirage tour! And he hasn't seen them since.
I will recording tomorrow night's show for anyone who is interested, I still have some other things I haven't put out there because the device is my friend's and she has to give them to me from out of it:)
I am SO EXCITED! ROLLLLLLL CALLLLLLL!!!!!!!
rhiannondontgo
04-05-2013, 03:37 PM
I'll be there. In the box seats, Box 24. Center stage!! :thumbsup: Totally pumped
tothegypsy
04-05-2013, 03:46 PM
I don't have a ticket yet but I plan on going :)
UnwindedDreams
04-05-2013, 06:35 PM
i'll b there!
Eugene
04-05-2013, 06:39 PM
Section 115, row 6, seats 3 & 4.
NOMAD2
04-05-2013, 09:30 PM
I STILL looking for either GREAT seats or crap. I hate paying a ton & not be real close. Could have had a pair in middle rows of section 114 & 124 yesterday. I'll probably regret not grabbing them.
Steviegirl
04-05-2013, 09:46 PM
I, too, am very, very nervous. I am driving from Virginia Beach with my sister. I had planned to wait until summer to see them in Charlotte, (I'm a teacher), but we decided to drive to Philadelphia because I don't want to wait until the end of June. We don't have tickets! <Smh> Is it sold out? :( We always get tickets at the box office. We've done really well in the past in AC (for Stevie), DC (for FM and Stevie and Rod Stewart), and Norfolk and Richmond (for Stevie). I hope we don't make that drive for nothing tomorrow. :distress: Please pray for us. :)
juniper
04-05-2013, 10:34 PM
I'll be there w hubby and friends - Floor 2, row 16, seats 10,9,8,7.
Is anyone planning to arrive early and tailgate? Supposed to be a nice day. Also, I heard a Phillies game at 7:05pm, so get there early to avoid traffic headache!!! We'll prob be there by 5.
(I also have 4 tix to sell, btw, Lower 115, Row 18, seats 4,5 and Lower 115, Row 19, seats 4,5. You can pm me; not sure if allowed to discuss on open forum???)
AbbiJoy78
04-05-2013, 11:06 PM
Nomad and Steviegirl: You can still pull 124 on Comcast tix, plus as you can see people on here are selling their tix! Don't fear, the drive won't be for nothing -- the box office will have tix i am sure. Everyone here has suggested to wait till the day of -- which is what I would have done if i didn't find the tix i bought first just this week. I just was too afraid to wait, and I didn't pay much more than face value so I am fine with my decision.
Keith
04-06-2013, 06:01 AM
I'm catching the train shortly to Philly - I don't have a ticket, but I will be in the arena. I was going to wait until Tuesday night when the Mac comes to the hometown, but hey, its Saturday, the Mac is two hours up the road.. why not.
Philly shows are always rowdy and good..:nod:
Steviegirl
04-06-2013, 06:20 AM
Thank you, Abbijoy78! That makes us feel much better! Off to Philadelphia! :)
Club box 22.
Abbi I will be interested in your recording,thanks
NOMAD2
04-06-2013, 02:06 PM
Damn...something personal came up & we can't go. At 1PM sec 2 row 19 ( many seats ) came up. If I already had them I would have went but....darn wife.
Steviegirl
04-06-2013, 02:23 PM
In Philadelphia! ...The city of "sisterly" love with my sister~ Section 2, Row 19, 7 & 8! Philadelphia is a beautiful city! I think we're going to try to get there by 7pm. I'm a little worried about traffic. I believe the Philadelphia Phillies team is playing a game tonight, and I'm not sure how that will impact the area. Have fun, Everyone! :)
MacShadowsBall
04-06-2013, 08:34 PM
Are we doing a "live" thread tonight? Just wondering? :shrug:
KenshiMaster16
04-06-2013, 08:50 PM
More importantly, did any songs get cut so far? Hopefully Sisters is still there.
CADreaming
04-06-2013, 09:06 PM
Just read on Twitter - Without You still there.
@PeterDiMeo: LINDSEY AND STEVIE JUST BLEW KISSES TO EACH OTHER DURING LANDSLIDE AND IT WAS LITERALLY THE CUTEST THING I'VE EVER SEEN
WildHearted
04-06-2013, 10:00 PM
Just read on Twitter - Without You still there.
@PeterDiMeo: LINDSEY AND STEVIE JUST BLEW KISSES TO EACH OTHER DURING LANDSLIDE AND IT WAS LITERALLY THE CUTEST THING I'VE EVER SEEN
Glad it's still in the set.
Also, that sounds cute.
michelej1
04-06-2013, 10:32 PM
Just read on Twitter - Without You still there.
I have faith that we will keep everything in, Without You, Sisters, Sad Angel. It all stays. I am going to believe. But as for evolution, I do hope that Without You gets a little tweaking. You know they tried to spice Destiny Rules up at the end, when they did it live and they need to just put some variation into Without You.
Michele
vivfox
04-06-2013, 10:34 PM
Tom Petty said, "the waiting is the hardest part." Waiting for the reports to come in is killing me. C'mon people, I have other stuff that needs to get done.
CADreaming
04-06-2013, 10:34 PM
I have faith that we will keep everything in, Without You, Sisters, Sad Angel. It all stays. I am going to believe.
Michele
Fingers crossed. I do have a feeling it's a permanent set.
MacShadowsBall
04-06-2013, 10:40 PM
C'mon people, I have other stuff that needs to get done.
I know, like bedtime! I'm gone all day tomorrow, must I wait! :lol:
mottabam
04-06-2013, 10:41 PM
Tom Petty said, "the waiting is the hardest part." Waiting for the reports to come in is killing me. C'mon people, I have other stuff that needs to get done.
I agree! A couple of videos on youtube now. A good one of Tusk.
Any changes to set list tonight?
MacShadowsBall
04-06-2013, 10:47 PM
Second Hand News from tonight...
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michelej1
04-06-2013, 11:16 PM
Fingers crossed. I do have a feeling it's a permanent set.
I actually think Silver Springs is in more peril than any other song.
Since they have to shorten their set for New Orleans, it will be interesting to see what they drop for that date.
Michele
Just got back,great show,same set as Columbus
Goodnight all.
rhiannondontgo
04-06-2013, 11:39 PM
Same set, amazing show.
S&L walked out holding hands for the first time, and for all the encores, it was adorable.
Sisters was amazing. She kind of crouched down and sang the ending in a very cool tongue-like way like the famous version. She also said that they hadn't sang it since the 70s. :rolleyes: Silly Steph. She obviously doesn't recall the Mirage tour.
Also she said she wrote Without You in 71 as a poem, recorded the demo for Buckingham Nicks II, totally lost it for years and found it on youtube last year. (Sounds like the Secret Love story). She talked about how in love they were when she wrote it, and how amazing it is that they're friends now. It was ok, her vocals weren't incredible on it since i'm used to the demo.
Sad Angel is effing awesome. I'm in love. Perfect song for Stevie's voice. Everybody responded favorably.
Landslide as way cute. She dedicated it to everyone and their families. Before the song, she said "My dad thought it was written for him. But really it was written for him {pointing to Lindsey], but we both loved my dad so we let him have that one." At the end, they high-fived, which became a hand-hold. And he kissed her hand. So she blew him a kiss, and he blew one back. And they smiled at eachother and made the little "rock on" signs with their hands to eachother. It was way cute. The whole audience was cheering and whistling every time they touched.
Big Love was wicked cool. The guitar work was incredible as usual.
GDW was especially hot and went on forever. Super sexy and cool.
I'm So Afraid was awesome! The solo amazed everybody.
Stand Back was fun, lots of twirling. A weird background thing on the screen with a Stevie lookalike dancing around. Odd. I preferred when the screen was just a huge cam of the band better.
Silver Springs was beautiful. Lots of people crying. She changed some lyrics though ("Did you say that you love her")
I personally liked Not That Funny, but everybody near me was like WTF when he did it. Linds laughed and said "I wish i'd been a fly on the wall when Warner Bros listened to this record!"
Rhiannon was epic as usual, though I prefer when she starts it slow like she did last time I saw her solo. I think she screwed up a lyric or was late to something at the very start but nobody seemed to notice except a few people who pointed it out to me. It was awesome.
Say Goodbye was crazy gorgeous, perfect closer. He went into a huge rant about how there's still so many chapters left for the two of them and how amazing they were together. The audience was whistling and whooping lol.
Stevie had no glasses and no gloves. She changed a few times and she went backstage a lot to alternate shawls. (It was funny, at one point Karen snuck up onstage and grabbed her arm and lead her backstage. Can she not walk herself? :lol: )Looked decades younger than in the interviews just a few wks ago, she also looked like she lost some weight! Very pretty.
Lindsey was hamming it up. Totally epic guitar solos. It's a shame everybody went to the bathroom or to get food whenever Stevie went backstage to change during Lindsey's songs. They don't know what they were missing, he was amazing.
Mick was wearing ridiculous red shoes and at the end, a red top hat lol. He had his crazy World Turning drum solo and did part of it with his eyes closed. Lindsey sat down like cross-legged on the edge of the stage during Mick's whole solo. There was a weird pre-recorded backing track during it too, I think. Mick ended the show by yelling "The Mac is back!"
Lindsey says the EP should be released in "just a few days".
vivfox
04-07-2013, 12:13 AM
rhiannondontgo, I'm so glad you had such a good time and were able to take notes at the same time. We really appreciate an in depth review. Now we just have to wait for the video's.
michelej1
04-07-2013, 12:23 AM
Same set, amazing show.
S&L walked out holding hands for the first time, and for all the encores, it was adorable.
Sisters was amazing. She kind of crouched down and sang the ending in a very cool tongue-like way like the famous version. She also said that they hadn't sang it since the 70s. :rolleyes: Silly Steph. She obviously doesn't recall the Mirage tour.
Also she said she wrote Without You in 71 as a poem, recorded the demo for Buckingham Nicks II, totally lost it for years and found it on youtube last year. (Sounds like the Secret Love story). She talked about how in love they were when she wrote it, and how amazing it is that they're friends now..
It sounds like you got a lot more cozy SnL moments than there were in Columbus. I'm jealous.
Glad you had a great time.
Michele
NOMAD2
04-07-2013, 12:26 AM
rhiannondontgo.. great post.
The Catdancer
04-07-2013, 02:29 AM
rhiannondontgo, great review. Thank you :)
Eugene
04-07-2013, 05:58 AM
In case anyone is wondering when the show starts, well, it starts when Elle has finished knocking everyone over, including the security guard, to get to her place of worship in front of Lindsey. :xoxo:
The video shown on screen during Gypsy(?) was the Annabel Lee footage (children on the beach) from the In Your Dreams docu.
Lindsey looked very appreciative that his cult turned out for the show. He did a lot of talking; Stevie, not so much.
Silver Spring, my favourite FM song, is too slow, and perhaps lacks the intensity of the definitive version from The Dance DVD.
The beer runs and exodus to the bathrooms during Not That Funny and the new songs was really annoying. Perhaps FM should only play on school nights. Beers were $10-at least you got a straw.
go6car
04-07-2013, 07:14 AM
Great show!!
Someone next to me said Stevie was crying at the end of one of the songs. For the freaking life of me, I can't remember which one. (As luck would have it again, I was ridiculously sick for this show. Haven't been this sick since I had to miss Stevie at the Borgata a few years ago and give up my 3rd row seats!)
vivfox
04-07-2013, 08:42 AM
Great show!!
Someone next to me said Stevie was crying at the end of one of the songs. For the freaking life of me, I can't remember which one. (As luck would have it again, I was ridiculously sick for this show. Haven't been this sick since I had to miss Stevie at the Borgata a few years ago and give up my 3rd row seats!)
You're probably highly allergic to the stale setlist.:p
vivfox
04-07-2013, 08:44 AM
In case anyone is wondering when the show starts, well, it starts when Elle has finished knocking everyone over, including the security guard, to get to her place of worship in front of Lindsey. :xoxo:
I have this vision of a 4'11" girl flying over cannon, singing to her soul, that people in the front row turn the music into gold.:nod::laugh:
nailatixela
04-07-2013, 09:36 AM
Great show! I'll write more later...but it was awesome to see them again. Stevie and Lindsey were extra lovely dovey tonight. The new songs were really nice to hear.
SOTM was awesome! I was worried about this one - but at the end "so we make our choices...." Stevie crouched down with the mic and got so into it! I could see the intensity on her face and it was that same intensity that we've seen from 1982. It was awesome and I was not disappointed at all.
Lindsey also said, when introducing the fact that they've been working on new songs, that an EP was going to drop "in a few days."
wheart
04-07-2013, 09:46 AM
A few thoughts on last night's show: It was a solid show. A few highlights for me:
Sisters - even better than I thought it would be. Stevie said, again, that the last time they did it was the late 70's. I wanted to scream out it was 1982. The delivery may be different but the intensity of this song has not changed
Not That Funny - loved that it was back in the set but missed the solo in the middle.
Gypsy - sounded much better that it has on previous tours
Without You - first time hearing this. Beautiful
Sad Angel - very nice.
Eyes of the World - YES!!!
Despite Stevie's claims of this tour being very different from previous outings, the setlist was routine and uninspired. Except for the few new additons, everything else was in the same spot and played the same, for the most part. No songs had an intro, in particular GDW and Rhiannon, which I kinda missed. I would love to see Stand Back and Big Love go bye bye in place of something fresher but they're crowd pleasers so I guess they gotta include them. Would love to have seen some more costume changes from Stevie but I guess it's just too much work for her :rolleyes:
Looking forward to seeing them again tomorrow in NY!!
rhiannondontgo
04-07-2013, 10:01 AM
Someone next to me said Stevie was crying at the end of one of the songs
And Lindsey wiped his eyes with his hands after their little "moment" during Landslide. Don't know if it was like sarcasm or if he was welling up or something. Everybody near me was like "Aww he's crying!". But Lindsey doesn't seem like the type to randomly cry over a song that they've been doing constantly for 37 years, yknow. :shrug:
AliceLover
04-07-2013, 10:30 AM
What was going on at the end of Stand Back? Looks like she walked away from the mic? All the videos chop it off at the end.
nailatixela
04-07-2013, 10:39 AM
What was going on at the end of Stand Back? Looks like she walked away from the mic? All the videos chop it off at the end.
Just my perspective - I think Stevie forgot the song wasn't over. You know how they do that false ending? It started in 2009. Stevie kinda walked away before it, and it looked like she was like "oh!" and sort of hurried back to the mic to finish the song.
CADreaming
04-07-2013, 10:43 AM
Just my perspective - I think Stevie forgot the song wasn't over. You know how they do that false ending? It started in 2009. Stevie kinda walked away before it, and it looked like she was like "oh!" and sort of hurried back to the mic to finish the song.
Yeah I just read on Facebook that Sharon saved it by saying "3,4" and Stevie threw her hands in the air and shook her head at herself at the end, realizing she forgot it.
AbbiJoy78
04-07-2013, 10:46 AM
I AM FLOATING!!!!!!!!!!!:]
I am on such a huge high...yes I think I just HAVE to go to NYC tomorrow and see FM again at MSG...
My boyfriend and I got there early, on a beautiful early evening where we saw people tailgating and blasting FM from their cars, beers in hand. One person who parked next to me, almost hit my car as she was pulling in, and I honked at them like "what are you doin?" But then realized I jumped the gun because they weren't as close to my car as i thought..i was so nervous about the show, like a good nervous, that I was not myself, so i rolled the window down and said "I'm sorry, i have pre-concert anxiety!" which they thought was funny and seemed to get it. We chatted a little bit and they ended up sitting a few rows right in front of me....nice people.
After a bite and a beer inside, we were ready to take our seats....
Before sitting down, I had to find some Ledgies. Of course I knew where to look--the front of the stage. I saw Elle, Lindsfan, and 2 other girls (hi guys!) and security kept asking everyone to leave. I heard my name and looked up at the start of the riser section, and there was Eugene! It was so great feeling the love and being able to meet fans and exchange hugs. I tried to explain to my man how awesome it all is, but he doesn't quite get it. He could never imagine being on a fan site and meeting like-minded people and feeling so comfortable with everybody despite not knowing too much of each other. It's kind of a neat feeling though, right?:nod:
At roughly 20 after 8, the show began. I am so happy nothing got cut. I played Without You in my car on the way to get ready and let my b/f hear it. Thank God that one, and SOTM and Sad Angel all made it another night.
Stevie announced to Phila that we were indeed their second stop on the tour, and again at the end Mick mentioned they had a lot more after us and thanked us for being so welcoming.
I LOVED all the interaction between Stevie and Lindsey. Even my b/f could see WHY the fans get the way we get over them. They are so open about their reasons for writing songs now and the way they used to feel back then, and how they feel now. People eat that sh** up!
One thing occured to me. All those hits, the ones we wish they would drop in place of deeper cuts, are so beloved by the general public, that there is just NO way they can do that. I mean I stopped and looked all around the venue and saw mouths moving to all the well-known songs....and if they took those away in place of the ones the FANS really want, well, they'd have about 90% of the place at a loss for what they are hearing. So, the reality is, they need to keep those overplayed songs. The crowd CAME THERE for those, and they get to stand and dance around and have the good time they wanted.
I loved Not That Funny. No one around me knew it. A lot of people didn't seem to know Eyes of The World either. I LOVE EOTW!
I was hoarse by the show's end. I jumped and danced and screamed the entire time. I kept hitting the poor guy next to me because i was a crazy girl in motion. Now, mind you i had 12th row, Lindsey's side. Everyone stood for almost the whole time. But this guy behind us wanted us all to sit. ha. The guy next to me was like "sorry dude, no one wants to, looks like you're gonna have to stand tonight". Thank God, because there is NO way i can sit. i do feel bad though, because i am a 5'10" tall chick.
I hope my recording came out, but i fear you will hear me screaming to Lindsey "SEXXXY!" a few times, which had the row in front of me turning and laughing. Worse yet I hope my man's teasing comments didn't make the recording!:rolleyes:
Hey, did anyone notice that the when they did "Without You", that it almost sounded like the production, or the sound of the song, sounded almost like it was back in the 70s...something changed from the sound to the rest of the songs, can't explain what i mean, but it sounded older, and less polished in quality. It was interesting...
Many already described the songs and the interactions.
Oh...I think the people around me thought the Stevie lookalike was a young real Stevie from the 80s during Stand Back. They pointed and kind of expressed shock.
I'll probably remember more random thoughts...
Another friend of mine, from life, not the Ledge, LOL, was seated 3 rows in front of me, and after the show we all got together, and the Ledgies I mentioned above, and discussed where we could all gather together. In the end we had a drink and a chat in the Cure Lounge in the venue, until they kicked us out. But it was great chatting with everybody and disecting the show and our thoughts. Nothing like like-minded people all together on the high of a show like this. Wish I could have met more of you.
And Steviegirl: I am so happy you scored those Floor 2, row 19 seats! I had heard they were available! I hope you and your sister had a great night, well worth it!:D
One more thing, when my alarm went off this morning, The Chain LITERALLY just began as it went off, and I thought it was quite fitting, haha.
GREAT NIGHT! Now...what is next....hmmmm;)
Well, I wanted to go to this show, but couldn't get tickets to where I wanted & then hubby said that he didn't want to go to see them anyway. So having said that, I've watched two videos, because I'm pressed for time today. I don't feel like a missed much. I do like Sad Angel & when Lindsey said that there would be an EP released of new songs, that made my day. I'd rather see a whole album :shrug:, but I'll take anything @ this point. I watched Sisters of the Moon, a fav of mine, but it sounded flat to me. I may be wrong, but I like the studio version better. Questions on the show:
1. A sell-out? FM website said yes, I'm thinking not.
2. Did the VA Beach people get in & see the show?
3. How long did the show last?
4. Security tight or not so much?
5. And the big question, did Elle get to strum Lindsey's guitar? :D
Lee :)
AbbiJoy78
04-07-2013, 10:59 AM
Hey Lee, i wondered if you were there.
To answer:
I do not think it was sold out, because they were still selling tix at the B.O. and if you called thru the day. Also i am sure there had to be some empty seats at the show, but it looked full.
My recorder said the show was about 2 hours and 23 minutes (i think)
The VA girls did get 19th row!
Oh and its funny, when listening back to the Philly show from 2009, a lot of the songs sound flat or unenergetic, but when you are THERE seeing it, it doesn't come off that way because of their faces and Lindsey's antic, and the energy at the venue. It will never sound the same when played back I guess. When you are there, you don't notice really if it sounds a bit off or whatever...at least I didn't. I'm too into it i guess.
Regina
04-07-2013, 11:29 AM
What happened during Stand Back? If I'm not mistaken--the band stopped too early. I don't think it was Stevie's flub. For a full few seconds, I think they just stopped and then picked up and she finished.
OK-my review (take a seat...this may be long and somewhat preachy...what else is new?):
Background (quickly)...I got to Philly early, decided to take a walk and walked for a very long time in a direction that was the opposite of the one I thought I was taking. Then, I had to walk back. Went to a mall. Then went shopping in the right direction. My feet/legs/knees were killing me. Add a HIDEOUS mistake in the subway station I chose, which led me to an underground tunnel (I'm claustraphobic and tunnels are WAY up there on my s**t list) where I was walking and walking and walking...and never seeing light, or people, or trains, for like 5 minutes (which is mighty long when you start imagining your dead body being found by some poor soul in a few days, weeks...years...) and there was my general mood by the time I hit the venue.
However, things looked up. The Meet and Greet was very organized. I didn't really get to speak with anyone much but people seemed friendly an Mick was very personable and funny. He said he was NOT writing a new autobiography (someone asked) and talked about the origins of the balls he wears, how he got into the biz, and how he had to train himself not to be the boss when it comes to pushing around Stevie (okay--it was a bit more general but he did mention her by name) and pushing for tour dates.
We went up on stage (steep steps) and took a quick picture, then he signed one item for each of the 40 of us there and he went off to get dressed. I still had over an hour to kill. More walking...oy.
I had second row seats and knew I could go up to the stage. But, I've been there many, many times and I was just in a lot of pain (I have knee issues) and thought--I better not. So, I stayed at my seat. Even thought I stood the entire time. Staying by my seat was kind of a mistake. Because I almost immediately realized the advantage of being at the stage (aside from the obvious)...you don't really give a crap about what's going on behind you, when you are up there. And, this is where it got ugly (in my section). The people at the stage were not the problem. Some people, in the aisle, were. First, there was a load of really drunk people. REALLY drunk. And, during Sara ...which I immediately was thrilled over because it really sounded beautiful and I was not distracted by that doofy red thing Stevie was wearing with that awful updo from last time she did it...a ruckus started. Two women, in the aisle, started pointing in my direction (but not at me--I think at the guy next to me) asking security to check HIS ticket because they were sure he didn't belong there. I guess these women had been trouble before because he told them to pull out their tickets. They were both from the 8th row, and he wanted them back in their seats. They refused. Out comes another security guard. Still, they refused. Went off to get a third. Now, a guy comes and threatens to deck one of the women. Three security guards and I've almost totally missed Sara and we're half-way through Big Love. One woman leaves quietly. The second one shoves security and she is now surrounded and moved out. But, two girls (the women who left were not young) are leaving behind them and someone said that one of the women hit one of these girls. One was crying.
I mean, really. But, as much as I blame the drunks--I really do think they need a policy about this free for all rush to the stage. It's getting out of hand. Or, at least, it did over at this venue.
So...I'm not going through each song. I've had exactly 3 1/2 hours sleep. But, I do not find the setlist uninspired. I like it. I thought it was quick running and there was an energy there that I really liked.
I did not listen to Sad Angel before the show. I really enjoyed it. I think it would be great on today's radio. I had read Michelle's review and thought...where is Lindsey's uncomfortable guitar solo...and then, I KNEW. Man, that thing needs to be cut in half. But the song is great. I overheard someone saying he's "extremely talented but one sick son of a B*****" and then qualified that by saying he meant it in a "good way." Oh...kay.
Sara, from what little I heard of it, sounded amazing.
Tusk...I don't know what's wrong with me, but when I looked at the screen I thought...what is that bloody uterus doing up there? Until I realized it was the marching band. Must be a Rorschack test result in there somewhere.
Sisters of the Moon--I was also laughing about the 70s thing. I guess she forgot about Mirage. There is a huge difference between what she did then and what she can do now. But, I liked it. I'm just not used to it since that Mirage thing was a virtual exorcism.
Not that Funny...I hate this song, normally. I mean, DESPISE. But, I kind of liked it last night. I'm glad he scrapped the sex sounds and just did it more matter of factly and less visciously. It was okay.
Gypsy was pretty. Stevie got a huge roar from the audience when she twirled.
Lindsey was, indeed, playing with the audience a lot. He may kvetch about the Big Machine but he seems to be having a blast out there.
Without You sounded better than the video I heard from opening night. It's very odd because I love, love, love the demo. But, they had very young, innocent voices in the demo. And it's odd to hear it with the older, less innocent voices. But, it was still nice. Just different. Stevie was almost gleeful when she said it was now her time to talk. And when she announced that they all heard this on youtube. It was like she discovered America or something.
I find it funny when Lindsey now talks about axioms and running things into the ground when he uses the same phrase for the past 30 years.
Uh...what else. The Stevie-Lindsey show was cute without being at all nauseating. She finished one song (forget which) by just balling up her hand in a fist and kind of touching his heart area. He smiled. Oh--maybe it was the end of Sara? I don't know. I did notice this during the altercations--"I'd go anywhere...anywhere...ask me and I will be there," got a big old smile from Lindsey. It was sweet.
Never Going Back Again--Lindsey thanked the crowd and mouthed "thank you" to Stevie. Not sure why since it wasn't a huge amount of stuff she did on there but...whatever. Good manners should always be acknowledged;-)
Silver Springs was great. Not as violent as the Dance, but still...wonderful.
And, Say Goodbye...anyone who knows me knows I'm a nearly pathologically possessive fan of this song. And, have had bad luck 99% of the time, seeing it live. Something always happens. ONE time I got to see it absolutely uninterrupted, at the stage and it was beautiful (and I saw a whole mess of SYW concerts...kept me in debt for years). Yesterday's version? Beautiful...except the security guard and a guy started up a conversation and talked through the WHOLE thing.
Why me?
Anyway, that was my take on the whole thing.
On a personal note, I have decided to retire from my solo FM-concerts unless it's MSG (which I hate) or Atlantic City. It's just...I'm getting too old for transportation issues and all that jazz. And, next time I get the opportunity to go up stage, no matter how much my knees hurt...I'm going and avoiding the high drama that the drunken audience provides.
Oh-one more thing--before Say Goodbye...Stevie said something and moved her mic. Then Lindsey said something (I simply couldn't make it out with blabbermouth guard right next to me)...and then Stevie said, "no, it's important to ME." And then he went into the speech about it was the nicest thing he ever wrote for her...
Oh, one more, one more thing. It was worth every penny. And, possibly the trek through the tunnel. I'm a little iffy over that one.
Over and out.
vivfox
04-07-2013, 11:58 AM
AbbiJoy78 & Regina, I enjoyed reading your reviews. For some reason, audience banter has never annoyed or distracted me. I find people very entertaining.
vivfox
04-07-2013, 02:16 PM
I'm watching the concert through the videos that Spy Note posted and so far I hear Lindsey getting more loving from the crowd than Stevie. They roared for him after Big Love and during and after Never Going Back Again.
michelej1
04-07-2013, 02:17 PM
And Lindsey wiped his eyes with his hands after their little "moment" during Landslide. Don't know if it was like sarcasm or if he was welling up or something. Everybody near me was like "Aww he's crying!". But Lindsey doesn't seem like the type to randomly cry over a song that they've been doing constantly for 37 years, yknow. :shrug:
I think it's just sweat. But the timing of him wiping his face does convey emotion.
LOL at you pointing out he's been doing it for 37 years. Oh my goodness.
Michele
go6car
04-07-2013, 02:29 PM
I didn't think the set list was bad at all - just not sure why Stand Back is in there. Just seems so out of place.
On another note, the freaking MOTHS flying around were annoying as hell! Why the heck are there even moths in that place, LOL!!??!! Maybe they were just gravitating to me since I was sick! :D
michelej1
04-07-2013, 02:30 PM
Great review, Regina.
I hate people in general. Drunk or not. They make attending any public event unbearable.
Oh, I'm intrigued about Stevie saying, "no, it's important to me." I want to KNOW!
One time I heard them have a Say Goodbye discussion -- it was at the Philly show too -- but it was near the end of the tour, not at the beginning like now. Lindsey said that Stevie didn't like what he'd been saying about the song and about her the last few nights and she said, "No, it's your song. Say what you want." And that's the night when he said, "it's been too many years. Or maybe not enough." And I was: swoon.
Since Say Goodbye is such a quiet song, I can see why the people deciding to have a conversation near you was a distraction. If it had happened during GYOW it would have been totally different.
Michele
michelej1
04-07-2013, 02:35 PM
I didn't think the set list was bad at all - just not sure why Stand Back is in there. Just seems so out of place.
On another note, the freaking MOTHS flying around were annoying as hell! Why the heck are there even moths in that place, LOL!!??!! Maybe they were just gravitating to me since I was sick! :D
Oh my goodness. Moths. I would have had a huge problem with that. I can take one moth, but I think having many of them around would have unsettled me.
I just think Stand Back is a great dance number and I like it. It's her GYOW. While I appreciate SOTM being a rocker and I love having it, it's not like Sisters makes you want to DANCE. For me, Stand Back does. So, I would sorely miss it if it left.
Michele
michelej1
04-07-2013, 02:45 PM
In case anyone is wondering when the show starts, well, it starts when Elle has finished knocking everyone over, including the security guard, to get to her place of worship in front of Lindsey. :xoxo:
I would love to get Elle's first impressions of Sad Angel. When you stop traveling Elle, be sure to post what you thought of the new song that first night.
Michele
michelej1
04-07-2013, 03:09 PM
Philadelphia Inquirer
http://www.philly.com/philly/entertainment/20130407_Review__The_return_of_Fleetwood_Mac.html
Steve Klinge, FOR THE INQUIRER
Posted: Sunday, April 7, 2013, 2:27 PM
Instability is a constant in Fleetwood Mac. Since its inception in 1967, drummer Mick Fleetwood has been the only permanent member, although bassist John McVie joined almost immediately thereafter. And the band's classic late '70s lineup, with Christine McVie, Lindsey Buckingham and Stevie Nicks, reached its creative peak when its interpersonal relationships were at their most tumultuous.
"It's different every time. That's the way it is with this band: it's always a work in progress," Buckingham said during Saturday's sold-out show at the Wells Fargo Center, the second night of the band's first tour in more than three years. The 23-song, 2-and-a-half hour set favored the hits, including most of 1977's Rumours, while adding some surprises.
In the absence of Christine McVie, who left in 1998, the core quartet added two backing vocalists and two utility musicians. The band, however, was at its best when at its most elemental, and Buckingham was the central force with his aggressive, impressive guitar playing and his unrestrained, often manic energy.
That energy anchored punchy pop songs, such as "Second Hand News," "Go Your Own Way" and the new "Sad Angel," as well as earnest acoustic songs, such as "Never Going Back Again," "Without You" and "Big Love" (from 1987's Tango in the Night). He's an underrated guitar hero, and the lengthy solo that concluded "I'm So Afraid" found the youthful 63-year-old feigning exhaustion.
Nicks, 64, was less dramatic and mobile, and her voice took a while to warm up. Although she shifted the melodies of "Dreams" and "Rhiannon" to avoid the high notes, the rarely performed "Sisters of the Moon" was eerie and powerful and the inescapable "Landslide," accompanied only by Buckingham on acoustic guitar, was lovely and sincere.
After an encore that featured a drum solo from Fleetwood, joyous and indefatigable at age 70, Buckingham and Nicks returned to the stage hand-in-hand. Buckingham introduced "Say Goodbye" by saying, "It's about closure, as much of the dialogue between us seems to be."
That closure is still a work in process: the band has a new EP on the way.
Read more: http://www.philly.com/philly/entertainment/20130407_Review__The_return_of_Fleetwood_Mac.html#ixzz2PoHx4IxB
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KindOfWoman90
04-07-2013, 04:41 PM
Last night was fabulous! I love reading everyone's posts about the evening because I swear I get some sort of amnesia, just too excited I guess :p What I do recall, Sara sounds fantastic! Was it just me, or did she reach quite a few high notes last night? And not just with Sara! Their harmonies on Sara were gorgeous. I love loved loved Without You. I was a bit worried it couldn't match up to the demo, but it was lovely. I'm so glad they didn't change the set list yet! The security was pretty good for the most part, except this couple decided a drunken dance in the aisle during the encores was a great idea... Unfortunately, what bugged me more was a woman who was obviously drunk or something standing in front of me during Say Goodbye... she was bopping and weaving like Stand Back was still playing :rolleyes: I didn't want these interruptions to disrupt my experience, but it was mighty hard. Apart from a few drunken fools (I really wish there was a drink limit), unfortunately unavoidable for any concert, it was a great night :nod:
I would love to get Elle's first impressions of Sad Angel. When you stop traveling Elle, be sure to post what you thought of the new song that first night.
Michele
hi Michele! :wavey:
so my impressions of Sad Angel - from hearing it in Columbus, followed by listening to it in all the vids, and then seeing it again in Philly:
omg it's rocking and fast, that's great! :thumbsup:
it's extremely poppy
hmm... whoever said something like "run what works into the ground..."? :shrug:
it's extremely poppy :shrug:
the whole friday everybody everywhere kept saying they can't get this song out of their heads :D
nice short typical linds guitar solos, always a good thing! :cool:
lindsey hopping is always a good thing :blob2:
fun song... very very very purely poppy
extremely fun in concert :thumbsup:
i guess as fleetwood mac-y as it can be - whatever that means these days and whatever rocks your boat :D :p (... while after Tusk other [perhaps more interesting] stuff has been reserved for solo). i like it.
Regina
04-07-2013, 04:43 PM
Michele--I was at that concert in Philly(Camden), too. At the stage for that one. No leg pain to cause me to be sensible (ha!).
Amazing stuff. And, I think Lindsey WAS really and truly emotional during that one. I have a transcript of that moment somewhere;-)
People can be a total drag. It's amazing to me, how you spend so much money to talk, get drunk, get in fights...do just about anything but actually listen to the music.
michelej1
04-07-2013, 04:57 PM
it's extremely poppy
Thanks for your impressions, Elle. I just wondered because I had been badmouthing it beforehand and laughing with you on The Ledge and then I felt that I was wrong and I wondered if you felt that way too.
C'mon. As far as being poppy goes, this song is no Did You Miss Me -- not that there's anything wrong with that! I mean, not that I don't like Did You Miss Me. I do. But it's way commercial and I don't think Lindsey liked it so much. But Sad Angel doesn't seem anything to be ashamed of. I think it fulfills certain esoteric needs.
Plus, even if the chorus is hooky, at least they are unique words in the refrain and not: "Brothers and sister, yeah. Brother and sister, ooo ooo. Brother and sister, I love you dooley doo." You know what I mean?
I mean, I feel kind of silly singing, "Hello, hello sad angel" as I walk around, but I feel weird because the words are rather odd, not because it sounds like Neil Sedaka.
Michele
Thanks for your impressions, Elle. I just wondered because I had been badmouthing it beforehand and laughing with you on The Ledge and then I felt that I was wrong and I wondered if you felt that way too.
C'mon. As far as being poppy goes, this song is no Did You Miss Me -- not that there's anything wrong with that! I mean, not that I don't like Did You Miss Me. I do. But it's way commercial and I don't think Lindsey liked it so much. But Sad Angel doesn't seem anything to be ashamed of. I think it fulfills certain esoteric needs.
Plus, even if the chorus is hooky, at least they are unique words in the refrain and not: "Brothers and sister, yeah. Brother and sister, ooo ooo. Brother and sister, I love you dooley doo." You know what I mean?
I mean, I feel kind of silly singing, "Hello, hello sad angel" as I walk around, but I feel weird because the words are rather odd, not because it sounds like Neil Sedaka.
Michele
yeah i hear you. i do like it. it's extremely catchy but words are not crap, we know exactly what they mean. and it's completely opposite of his This is 40 songs (although i enjoy those, they feel kinda like talking to him).
and yeah when you put it that way - light years ahead of Did You Miss Me !!!!! i cannot stand Did You Miss Me (for which is hard to tell which is cheesier - words or music), it's one of those songs i skip almost every single time. i love listening to Sad Angel and loved singing it with him / them during the second show (considering we've all been listening to it in our own recordings and on youtube for almost 2 days by then).
Steviegirl
04-07-2013, 05:26 PM
We DID get in and had seats in the 19th row of Section 2! We were elated! Thank you to those who were kind enough to answer some of our questions! I am a devoted fan of many years, and I attend pretty much every FM and Stevie show that comes to either VB, Norfolk, DC, or AC. This was our first time in Philadelphia, and we have fallen hopelessly in love with that city and its people! Everyone we met was lovely.
There isn't a lot to add to the wonderful reviews that have already been posted. I, too, was thinking about missing the tour when I saw the setlist and heard some of the videos from Columbus. I'm so glad I changed my mind. Last. Night. Was. Magical. Lindsey was on fire, and Stevie was in great voice and looked beautiful. Mick and John were incredible. We had so much fun!
There were many things that I expected to dislike. I, like many others, believe that FM should always open the show with "The Chain," but last night, there was so much energy at the show that, at least for me, EVERYTHING worked. As a long-time fan, I've come to dread "Landslide" a little; nevertheless, I was swept up (yet again) by its beauty. (I had jokingly said to my sister that I would go to the restroom as soon as I heard its first note, but, alas, I was on my feet swaying and singing with the rest of the crowd. <sigh> :)
I have a feeling about "Sad Angel." I FLOVE this song, and I was thinking of how amazing it would be if, maybe, "Sad Angel" could become a huge hit the way "Silver Springs" did after The Dance Tour. I would love for that to happen.
Anyway, thank you all again for your help and good wishes, and, if you're hesitant about going, please please don't be misled by the setlist and the videos, (which I absolutely LOVE seeing(!) but as we all know, don't always have the best sound quality. This band, our band, is on the road. They sound killer, and we need to get out there and support them. OH! My sis, (who has been to many SN shows with me but hasn't seen FM in a very long time, said, "Wow! That boy is amazing and is seriously putting in work!" about Lindsey. :) He was so good, I will make a point to see him the next time he goes out solo. Please don't miss this beautiful, beautiful show. I promise you that the videos are not doing it justice.
In case anyone is wondering when the show starts, well, it starts when Elle has finished knocking everyone over, including the security guard, to get to her place of worship in front of Lindsey. :xoxo:
lol Eugene - hey, that guard said he'll let us go as soon as the lights go down and then he tried to stop me (lol) to go to the stage. unacceptable! ;) :angel:
My sis, (who has been to many SN shows with me but hasn't seen FM in a very long time, said, "Wow! That boy is amazing and is seriously putting in work!" about Lindsey. :) He was so
good, I will make a point to see him the next time he goes out solo. Please don't miss this beautiful, beautiful show. I promise you that the videos are not doing it justice.
yup, Lindsey was just as good and just as much into it and working it as at his solo shows (except at Mac shows he cannot play as much / redirect the show off the audience... but then again he has much more time to interact off the mic when it's not all just hinging on him like at the solo shows). and that's why these people (you know, "his cult!' lol) have been following him around the globe:
Lindsey looked very appreciative that his cult turned out for the show. He did a lot of talking; Stevie, not so much.
Silver Spring, my favourite FM song, is too slow, and perhaps lacks the intensity of the definitive version from The Dance DVD.
The beer runs and exodus to the bathrooms during Not That Funny and the new songs was really annoying. Perhaps FM should only play on school nights.
as he should be!! :nod: :xoxo:
well, he sang SS to his cult (apparently we are haunting him ;) ), maybe that was the problem :p:cool: (cult members didn't mind)
Not That Funny was tight rocking and intense - perfect!! :thumbsup:
michelej1
04-07-2013, 05:54 PM
well, he sang SS to his cult (apparently we are haunting him ;) ), maybe that was the problem :p:cool: (cult members didn't mind)
In Ohio, I think Lindsey made a whole additional GYOW pitstop so that his fans could strum his guitar too. He certainly appreciated the support.
Of course, even if Lindsey didn't see anyone he knows in the audience, he would tend to engage new people too. He makes eye contact and facial expressions. Mouths words. When you communicate with him, he tries to respond in some way. He pulls you in. That's how people become "cult" members in the first place. They're converted. It's not like he only plays to those people who already support him. When he's "on" he's drawing "newbies" in as well and making them feel he's glad to be there and glad to have them there. Michele
WildHearted
04-07-2013, 06:17 PM
Oh, I'm intrigued about Stevie saying, "no, it's important to me." I want to KNOW!
One time I heard them have a Say Goodbye discussion -- it was at the Philly show too -- but it was near the end of the tour, not at the beginning like now. Lindsey said that Stevie didn't like what he'd been saying about the song and about her the last few nights and she said, "No, it's your song. Say what you want." And that's the night when he said, "it's been too many years. Or maybe not enough." And I was: swoon.
Michele
I found a video that has part of his introduction to the song, but it's still hard to hear and the video doesn't help at all.
What I got out of it: "This is a song that I wrote about Stevie maybe ten years ago. And, uh, it's about closure - as much of the dialogue between the two of us seems to be. And I think we're still trying to find it..... (indiscernible communication with Stevie)..... Or maybe we're not, I don't know. Anyway, it's incredible that after all this time there might still be a few chapters here between these two people...... (more indiscernible communication)..... So this is a song that is special to me, because it helped me to close many many years later."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNnyHeekekM
also, on a related note: am I crazy, or didn't he originally say Say Goodbye was something he wrote in like '87 (or thereabouts) but it just needed time before it found its place on a record... now he is saying he wrote it 10 years ago?
Steviegirl
04-07-2013, 06:19 PM
Oh, I did want to add one thing: the giant screen that projects the images of the band is really cool and fun! It's nice to be able to see them so clearly. I'm 5'2, so I have to spend the whole show on my 'tip-toes.' :) I liked the lights, the big sash that comes down in the middle and definitely the HUGE backscreen--this show just seems to have a lot more energy than many I've seen, and I think the band was energized not only by the crowd last night, (which was awesome) but also by the show's aesthetic, which is really "up," (for lack of a better word) and fun.
Steviegirl
04-07-2013, 06:25 PM
I found a video that has part of his introduction to the song, but it's still hard to hear and the video doesn't help at all.
What I got out of it: "This is a song that I wrote about Stevie maybe ten years ago. And, uh, it's about closure - as much of the dialogue between the two of us seems to be. And I think we're still trying to find it..... (indiscernible communication with Stevie)..... Or maybe we're not, I don't know. Anyway, it's incredible that after all this time there might still be a few chapters here between these two people...... (more indiscernible communication)..... So this is a song that is special to me, because it helped me to close many many years later."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNnyHeekekM
This was so sweet and so beautiful last night. I thought, and I'm not positive, but I thought that after Lindsey said, "Or maybe you're(?) not," that Stevie said, "No, I am too." {swoon} :)
In Ohio, I think Lindsey made a whole additional GYOW pitstop so that his fans could strum his guitar too. He certainly appreciated the support.
Of course, even if Lindsey didn't see anyone he knows in the audience, he would tend to engage new people too. He makes eye contact and facial expressions. Mouths words. When you communicate with him, he tries to respond in some way. He pulls you in. That's how people become "cult" members in the first place. They're converted. It's not like he only plays to those people who already support him. When he's "on" he's drawing "newbies" in as well and making them feel he's glad to be there and glad to have them there. Michele
what she said! :thumbsup: :cool:
I found a video that has part of his introduction to the song, but it's still hard to hear and the video doesn't help at all.
What I got out of it: "This is a song that I wrote about Stevie maybe ten years ago. And, uh, it's about closure - as much of the dialogue between the two of us seems to be. And I think we're still trying to find it..... (indiscernible communication with Stevie)..... Or maybe we're not, I don't know. Anyway, it's incredible that after all this time there might still be a few chapters here between these two people...... (more indiscernible communication)..... So this is a song that is special to me, because it helped me to close many many years later."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNnyHeekekM
yes, it was interesting, in Columbus Lindsey did all his prepared speeches that we all know already... in Philly he seemed to have been winging it instead for almost every single one of them (well, maybe not Big Love). it was great! :thumbsup:
Oh, I did want to add one thing: the giant screen that projects the images of the band is really cool and fun! It's nice to be able to see them so clearly. I'm 5'2, so I have to spend the whole show on my 'tip-toes.' :) I liked the lights, the big sash that comes down in the middle and definitely the HUGE backscreen--this show just seems to have a lot more energy than many I've seen, and I think the band was energized not only by the crowd last night, (which was awesome) but also by the show's aesthetic, which is really "up," (for lack of a better word) and fun.
agree with you - giant screen in the back accentuates right things at the right time and plays off well of the people on the stage. it's a great addition and accent of their playing, not a distraction. it makes it possible for everybody in the arena to be pulled in and be much closer to the action on the stage.
Regina
04-07-2013, 06:42 PM
I saw that one, too. But that bit of dialogue was immediately before the intro. We need a full bootleg.
Not that these aren't awesome.
michelej1
04-07-2013, 06:53 PM
I found a video that has part of his introduction to the song, but it's still hard to hear and the video doesn't help at all.
What I got out of it: "This is a song that I wrote about Stevie maybe ten years ago. And, uh, it's about closure - as much of the dialogue between the two of us seems to be. And I think we're still trying to find it..... (indiscernible communication with Stevie)..... Or maybe we're not, I don't know. Anyway, it's incredible that after all this time there might still be a few chapters here between these two people...... (more indiscernible communication)..... So this is a song that is special to me, because it helped me to close many many years later."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNnyHeekekM
also, on a related note: am I crazy, or didn't he originally say Say Goodbye was something he wrote in like '87 (or thereabouts) but it just needed time before it found its place on a record... now he is saying he wrote it 10 years ago?
When SYW came out, he said he wrote Say Goodbye 10 years after leaving the band. So I put it at 1997. He is mixing it up with having been released 10 years ago. Michele
MacShadowsBall
04-07-2013, 08:04 PM
Excellent reviews everybody. :cool:
I hate they aren't coming in my area.
CADreaming
04-07-2013, 08:06 PM
agree with you - giant screen in the back accentuates right things at the right time and plays off well of the people on the stage. it's a great addition and accent of their playing, not a distraction. it makes it possible for everybody in the arena to be pulled in and be much closer to the action on the stage.
I love this. It's what I hoped they would do this tour after seeing Stevie on Rod Stewart's set up. Makes the show come alive & I'm really looking forward to seeing it with the Mac.
WildHearted
04-07-2013, 08:12 PM
When SYW came out, he said he wrote Say Goodbye 10 years after leaving the band. So I put it at 1997. He is mixing it up with having been released 10 years ago. Michele
Oh, that's right. Thanks.
And Elle - I noticed the same thing re: Lindsey ditching his pre-planned speeches and going off the cuff. It was odd hearing him stumble over his words a bit. In a nice way.
juniper
04-07-2013, 10:58 PM
Great posts all- Tunes still swirling in my head after the Philly show. We were 16th row center floor. Others have detailed reviews, so I’ll just leave my general impressions – of which the overall one is huge thumbs up-
First, the good stuff:
1. Sound was great
2. Lots of smiling smiling from band members (at least the 3 –McVie in shadows most of night!) They seemed genuinely tickled to be playing these songs, still, to screaming fans.
3. They individually and collectively gave off a really positive vibe.
4. Lindsey’s energy! The man does not let up; he’s a performance animal.
5. Mick seemed so happy to have his little family on stage again – also – he must have the heart and arms of a lion to drum like that at his age – yowsa! Impressive.
6. The crowd, the crowd loved them. After all of our contemplations on the right- or wrongness of the ‘safe’ setlist, for me that was all forgotten when I heard the crowd roar for all these favorites – you realize that there are still the majority who have maybe not seen them before, or not seen them in years. How that must feel for the band members after more than 30 years, I can’t imagine. Instead of feeling retread, it really does honor these songs. It felt like a mass group celebration and validation of those times for all of us, band and crowd alike. I loved it.
7. I never never get tired of the standing o’s and long hoots and applause after both Big Love and I’m So Afraid.
8. Giant vertical screen was cool (but wish they had one for each of them, or that it was wider – it could only show one performer – on Landslide, could only see Stevie – would have been nice to see LB standing just one foot away…)
9. I liked the talking (with the exception of the LB “run it into the ground…” thing – give it a rest – I hate that bit – it’s a disservice to how good Rumours was). As others have said, what they said seemed more genuine, and these songs for the most part are very personal and meaningful for both, so it’s great to hear them acknowledge and talk about it.
10. Nice camaraderie between L & S – probably less interaction than I expected, but some nice moments and smiles, as others have noted. I thought Lindsey’s voice was cracking a little near the end of Say Goodbye, and he also looked up twice, in the way people do to keep back tears. When the song ended, he quickly ran a hand over his face, seeming in a way to clear his eyes..did others notice this?
If I have to nitpick….
1. Even though nice camaraderie, overall there was not as much interaction as I thought there might be, and not too much crossing into each other’s physical space. Sometimes, they seemed deliberately NOT to be looking at each other. However, it is 2013, and perhaps this is a more honest expression of their current relationship. I think I was just a little surprised after the hand-holding interviews and Mick saying something about their chemistry (jeez, at least I thought a little nostalgic BN material from the album???)
2. Background video screens were ok, but I thought much of the graphic stuff was not super compelling or original – just trees and swirling geometric patterns…whatever…it could have been better.
3. McVie completely lost in shadows…maybe he prefers it that way, but it would have been nice to see both Lindsey and John interact a little.
4. With regard to Without You, I liked the song, but what I really loved was the ‘sound’ of it in general – Lindsey’s guitar, the voices, - it did sound so BN-era, so that was cool. But I don’t understand that Stevie says ‘this was the music Mick first heard when he asked us to join the band…’ If that is such a milestone sound that they want to share, why not do a song that actually made it onto the album? I don’t understand how ‘finding’ their demo of Without You on youtube suddenly made them want to record it…..What about ‘finding’ out that people are still discovering and enjoying the BN album??? Why doesn’t that make them want to share those songs live with us?? Note I am not bashing that they brought back an old tune – I loved that, but would have liked more if they had given a nod to their album – I would have loved to hear the audience reaction. Does anyone think it was deliberate not to touch BN, due to a possible re-release (mini-tour???) in the future? This is from Wikipedia: “In December 2012, Nicks was hopeful that a 40th anniversary edition of Buckingham-Nicks would be released in 2013, claiming that at least one unreleased song from the sessions could be included on the release.” That song could be Without You?? But I digress…maybe time to jump threads…
Overall, a great show, and I’m going to see the MSG show, so it will be interesting to see if any changes!!
michelej1
04-07-2013, 11:58 PM
3. McVie completely lost in shadows…maybe he prefers it that way, but it would have been nice to see both Lindsey and John interact a little.
Yes, I was a little disappointed by this. In the past, either he and John would be looking at each while playing sometimes or, when they didn't do that so much anymore, Lindsey would hug John during the show -- or MUG him during the show, if you will. John would be playing at the time -- and Lindsey would be too, but Lindsey would play with one hand and grab John with the other. Just a nice show of affection that I miss.
I liked your observations.
Michele
Regina
04-08-2013, 06:56 AM
I heard the same thing, Juniper. There was a couple behind me that were absolutely tickled pink that they were doing "all these hits!"
So, yeah. While we are sometimes disgruntled--they are giving the majority of the audience exactly what they want.
And, to me, there was actually a HUGE difference between this tour and Unleashed. I actually saw more concerts during Unleashed (3, I think, and only 1 this time...probably) but there is a completely different tone and attitude that they take to the stage and it really makes all the difference.
TrueFaith77
04-08-2013, 07:04 AM
The youtube clip of "Without You" that pans over to John McVie and lingers on him for a spell--I'm not ashamed to admit: tears welled up in my eyes.
AbbiJoy78
04-08-2013, 01:53 PM
I don't want to count my chickens before they hatch...but if you want a full boot of this show, I may have it. I recorded it but need to give the device to my friend who it belongs to, and she will arrange it and send it to me.:D
Dreams22
04-08-2013, 02:10 PM
I don't want to count my chickens before they hatch...but if you want a full boot of this show, I may have it. I recorded it but need to give the device to my friend who it belongs to, and she will arrange it and send it to me.:D
Awesome! Thanks in advance! :thumbsup:
nailatixela
04-08-2013, 02:32 PM
I don't want to count my chickens before they hatch...but if you want a full boot of this show, I may have it. I recorded it but need to give the device to my friend who it belongs to, and she will arrange it and send it to me.:D
Any boot of this would be greatly appreciated.
WildHearted
04-08-2013, 03:45 PM
I don't want to count my chickens before they hatch...but if you want a full boot of this show, I may have it. I recorded it but need to give the device to my friend who it belongs to, and she will arrange it and send it to me.:D
That would be incredible.
AbbiJoy78
04-08-2013, 03:56 PM
IF all goes well, and I have enough battery power, I will record tonight at MSG in NY!
WildHearted
04-08-2013, 03:59 PM
IF all goes well, and I have enough battery power, I will record tonight at MSG in NY!
Have fun tonight!
michelej1
04-08-2013, 10:04 PM
[Thanks for mentioning this in the other thread]
McCall.com Blog post by John J. Moser
http://blogs.mcall.com/lehighvalleymusic/2013/04/review-fleetwood-mac-in-philly-good-playing-songs-and-singing-dont-add-up-to-great-show.html
April 8, 2013
REVIEW: Fleetwood Mac in Philly: Good playing, songs and singing don't add up to great show
Fleetwood Mac’s show Saturday at Philadelphia’s Wells Fargo Center had many of the ingredients that made the band such a force of nature in the 1970s, with nine Top 20 songs and 28 million albums sold.
Lindsey Buckingham still plays head-shakingly good guitar – in fact, if anything, his playing was better than ever. Stevie Nicks still has a voice, and simply a presence, that invokes the emotions those songs carried.
And, of course, there are those songs themselves: Partially the soundtrack to the lives of many in the generally older, sold-out crowd.
But on Saturday, the parts of the 23-song, 140-minute show didn’t always add up to the whole you expect with Fleetwood Mac. And sometimes even the parts fell short of expectations.
Lindsey Buckingham with Fleetwood Mac at Philadelphia's Wells Fargo Center on Saturday
Photos by Brian Hineline/Special to The Morning Call
The band, with two added multi-instrumentalists and two additional singers, started with what should have been a strong blast: After it took the stage in the dark, there was Buckingham in a spotlight, his guitar blazing to “Second Hand News,” his voice older and a bit ragged (he’s 63) but buoyed by determination.
And then ”The Chain,” its burning, bass-y riff showing off the rhythm section of Mick Fleetwood’s possessed drumming and John McVie’s bass.
But neither really connected in the way the songs once did, and the third song, “Dreams,” was even farther from expectations. Nick’s voice also sounded older (she’s 64) and she was more reserved, singing in a lower range. But the night was early and it was only the second show of the tour, and the song still connected, if not as viscerally.
It was no coincidence that the band started with three songs from “Rumours,” its 19-times platinum 1977 album. More than 35 years later, those are the Fleetwood Mac songs that still connect best.
And the fact that second female lead singer Christine McVie is no longer in the band (she left in 1998) cut out many of the others (“Over My Head,” “Hold Me,” “Little Lies.”)
A new song, “Sad Angel,” was a mid-tempo rocker with chime-y guitar and a steady beat that Buckingham said will be on an EP set for June release that includes some of the band’s best material in a long time. And he was seemingly entranced by it, hopping around as he played.
But in truth it was nowhere near the band’s signature stuff, as even the lessor version of “Rhiannon” that followed showed. It got a big cheer to start, and Nicks, who had changed to all black, danced as she sang.
Drummer Mick Fleetwood, with Nicks in shadows in front
In fairness, the show got better as the night went on. “Sisters of the Moon,” a song Nicks said the band hadn’t done since the end of the 1970s, was more in her range, and she pushed her voice, intently bending over and tugging at the mic stand as she sang.
“Sara,” found Nick’s voice floating more, hitting higher notes, as she and Buckingham glanced at each other across the stage. “Big Love,” despite the mumbo-jumbo introduction about “the importance of change” by Buckingham, who played it alone, was very good. His finger-picking was astonishing and his singing a possessed wail.
The mid-show pairing of “Landslide” and “Never Going Back Again” was a highlight of the night.
Nick and Buckingham together, alone and acoustic, on “Landslide” was nicely touching and well sung, with Nicks finally nailing high notes.
John McVie, left, and Fleetwood
And Buckingham playing a slower, gentler “Never Going Back Again” in the same way was great – him singing with fervor and playing sympathetic guitar.
But it seemed the energy built by almost every high point in the show was diffused by an interlude of Buckingham talking about the intentionally non-commercial album “Tusk” and playing two of its songs. (He marched around the stage as he played the title track).
Or playing the long-lost “Without You” or “Eyes of the World” or “I’m So Afraid,” none of which was bad, but seemed to interrupt the flow generated by songs such as “Gypsy,” which also was a highlight. Everything about that song connected perfectly: Buckingham’s playing, Nick’s voice and her spinning around stage as Buckingham added a second voice.
Even the strong run that ended the show was interrupted by the deep cut “I’m So Afraid.” While not a bad song, and again featuring Buckingham’s amazing playing (he skipped around stage as he played), it nonetheless broke the momentum that had started with “Gold Dust Woman.”
That song, nicely atmospheric, had Nicks’ turn to be possessed, waving and pantomiming as she sang to the heartbeat pound of Fleetwood behind her.
And surprisingly, it was the Nicks solo song “Stand Back” on which the band was at its best of the night. And Nick’s singing was especially strong.
The main set closed with “Go Your Own Way,” lightened to lose its sting and too ragged, but still a great song.
The encore started great, with a sharp and mean “World Turning” that included a four-minute drum solo, then “Don’t Stop,” the one Christine McVie song the band did, with Nicks singing her part. It, too, was ragged, but it’s hard to criticize such an uplifting song.
And then Fleetwood Mac closed with a simply amazing “Silver Springs.” Nicks was at her best – impassioned so much she sang with pounding fists. Buckingham’s guitar echoed with expression.
It was everything that was good about Fleetwood Mac – singing, playing and songwriting.
But Nicks and Buckingham came back for a second encore – a quiet and gentle “Say Goodbye” on just an acoustic guitar. It was OK, but it was yet another part that didn’t add up to expectations. In this case, an extra part that didn’t quite fit into a nicely concluded show.
WildHearted
04-08-2013, 10:12 PM
Wait, so now the EP is being released in June?
How does a few days/this week turn into JUNE?
CADreaming
04-08-2013, 10:18 PM
Wait, so now the EP is being released in June?
How does a few days/this week turn into JUNE?
What?? I ain't got time for that! Come on....
What?? I ain't got time for that! Come on....
not June, soon. that reviewer is def. among other things. stupidest review ever. :shrug:
CADreaming
04-08-2013, 10:25 PM
not June, soon. that reviewer is def. among other things. stupidest review ever. :shrug:
Good! I want new music! :D
Good! I want new music! :D
me too! and i hope i'm not wrong but NOBODY heard June at the first 2 shows...
and i meant to say deaf ;)
juniper
04-09-2013, 09:03 AM
[Thanks for mentioning this in the other thread]
McCall.com Blog post by John J. Moser
http://blogs.mcall.com/lehighvalleymusic/2013/04/review-fleetwood-mac-in-philly-good-playing-songs-and-singing-dont-add-up-to-great-show.html
April 8, 2013
REVIEW: Fleetwood Mac in Philly: Good playing, songs and singing don't add up to great show
Fleetwood Mac’s show Saturday at Philadelphia’s Wells Fargo Center had many of the ingredients that made the band such a force of nature in the 1970s, with nine Top 20 songs and 28 million albums sold.
Lindsey Buckingham still plays head-shakingly good guitar – in fact, if anything, his playing was better than ever. Stevie Nicks still has a voice, and simply a presence, that invokes the emotions those songs carried.
And, of course, there are those songs themselves: Partially the soundtrack to the lives of many in the generally older, sold-out crowd.
But on Saturday, the parts of the 23-song, 140-minute show didn’t always add up to the whole you expect with Fleetwood Mac. And sometimes even the parts fell short of expectations.
Lindsey Buckingham with Fleetwood Mac at Philadelphia's Wells Fargo Center on Saturday
Photos by Brian Hineline/Special to The Morning Call
The band, with two added multi-instrumentalists and two additional singers, started with what should have been a strong blast: After it took the stage in the dark, there was Buckingham in a spotlight, his guitar blazing to “Second Hand News,” his voice older and a bit ragged (he’s 63) but buoyed by determination.
And then ”The Chain,” its burning, bass-y riff showing off the rhythm section of Mick Fleetwood’s possessed drumming and John McVie’s bass.
But neither really connected in the way the songs once did, and the third song, “Dreams,” was even farther from expectations. Nick’s voice also sounded older (she’s 64) and she was more reserved, singing in a lower range. But the night was early and it was only the second show of the tour, and the song still connected, if not as viscerally.
It was no coincidence that the band started with three songs from “Rumours,” its 19-times platinum 1977 album. More than 35 years later, those are the Fleetwood Mac songs that still connect best.
And the fact that second female lead singer Christine McVie is no longer in the band (she left in 1998) cut out many of the others (“Over My Head,” “Hold Me,” “Little Lies.”)
A new song, “Sad Angel,” was a mid-tempo rocker with chime-y guitar and a steady beat that Buckingham said will be on an EP set for June release that includes some of the band’s best material in a long time. And he was seemingly entranced by it, hopping around as he played.
But in truth it was nowhere near the band’s signature stuff, as even the lessor version of “Rhiannon” that followed showed. It got a big cheer to start, and Nicks, who had changed to all black, danced as she sang.
Drummer Mick Fleetwood, with Nicks in shadows in front
In fairness, the show got better as the night went on. “Sisters of the Moon,” a song Nicks said the band hadn’t done since the end of the 1970s, was more in her range, and she pushed her voice, intently bending over and tugging at the mic stand as she sang.
“Sara,” found Nick’s voice floating more, hitting higher notes, as she and Buckingham glanced at each other across the stage. “Big Love,” despite the mumbo-jumbo introduction about “the importance of change” by Buckingham, who played it alone, was very good. His finger-picking was astonishing and his singing a possessed wail.
The mid-show pairing of “Landslide” and “Never Going Back Again” was a highlight of the night.
Nick and Buckingham together, alone and acoustic, on “Landslide” was nicely touching and well sung, with Nicks finally nailing high notes.
John McVie, left, and Fleetwood
And Buckingham playing a slower, gentler “Never Going Back Again” in the same way was great – him singing with fervor and playing sympathetic guitar.
But it seemed the energy built by almost every high point in the show was diffused by an interlude of Buckingham talking about the intentionally non-commercial album “Tusk” and playing two of its songs. (He marched around the stage as he played the title track).
Or playing the long-lost “Without You” or “Eyes of the World” or “I’m So Afraid,” none of which was bad, but seemed to interrupt the flow generated by songs such as “Gypsy,” which also was a highlight. Everything about that song connected perfectly: Buckingham’s playing, Nick’s voice and her spinning around stage as Buckingham added a second voice.
Even the strong run that ended the show was interrupted by the deep cut “I’m So Afraid.” While not a bad song, and again featuring Buckingham’s amazing playing (he skipped around stage as he played), it nonetheless broke the momentum that had started with “Gold Dust Woman.”
That song, nicely atmospheric, had Nicks’ turn to be possessed, waving and pantomiming as she sang to the heartbeat pound of Fleetwood behind her.
And surprisingly, it was the Nicks solo song “Stand Back” on which the band was at its best of the night. And Nick’s singing was especially strong.
The main set closed with “Go Your Own Way,” lightened to lose its sting and too ragged, but still a great song.
The encore started great, with a sharp and mean “World Turning” that included a four-minute drum solo, then “Don’t Stop,” the one Christine McVie song the band did, with Nicks singing her part. It, too, was ragged, but it’s hard to criticize such an uplifting song.
And then Fleetwood Mac closed with a simply amazing “Silver Springs.” Nicks was at her best – impassioned so much she sang with pounding fists. Buckingham’s guitar echoed with expression.
It was everything that was good about Fleetwood Mac – singing, playing and songwriting.
But Nicks and Buckingham came back for a second encore – a quiet and gentle “Say Goodbye” on just an acoustic guitar. It was OK, but it was yet another part that didn’t add up to expectations. In this case, an extra part that didn’t quite fit into a nicely concluded show.
I am the first one to complain when I think a show's pacing is wrong, but I'm sorry, this man just got it wrong. Besides, from a writer's perspective, it is so choppily written, and doesn't make his points. The headline prepares us to read about some major flaw, then he goes on to say a bunch of good stuff, finally getting to the fact the SN "seems older"..!!!!! DUH! Not much any of us can do about that, dude.
And he says every high point was interrupted by the TUsk speech?? That makes no sense - I mean, I hate that speech too, but it was ONE time! And btw, I LIKE the speech about Big Love - I think it's cool just the way it is.
And then he says that Stevie creates a nice atmospheric mood with GDW, which Lindsey "interrupts" with ISA???? Doesn't he get the call-and-response, back and forth nature of their leads??? And doesn't he realize that each singer needs time to regroup after a big song??? YOu can't have either one leading on more than a couple songs in a row - DUH! And to claim that ISA breaks a mood of possession is just bass ackwards - Could there be anything MORE possessed than LB playing ISA??
Last, he is dead wrong about Say Goodbye. I usually don't like slow closers either, but we finally get to hear Say Goodbye with real feeling at the correct slower tempo (not the rushed compressed version that was squeezed onto SYW), and with a heartfelt intro from both. I thought it capped off the night perfectly.
OK, done ranting...I agree, lamest reviewer ever.
onlynow
04-09-2013, 10:34 AM
Anyone recall after which song Stevie cried? Thanks!
AbbiJoy78
04-09-2013, 11:33 AM
Ok I was at the NYC show last night, Lindsey definitely said the EP will come out "in a few days"
MacShadowsBall
04-09-2013, 11:52 AM
Ok I was at the NYC show last night, Lindsey definitely said the EP will come out "in a few days"
I got a feeling we'll be hearing "in a few days" for "a few more months"! ;)
michelej1
04-11-2013, 06:57 PM
Courier Times, Philly Burbs
http://www.phillyburbs.com/blogs/reality/concert-review-fleetwood-mac-hasn-t-lost-its-magic/article_000ba706-ed78-5338-9c20-3d91fb230e3f.html
Posted: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 11:45 pm
By Jaime Swank Council Rock South
High School
Before I went to the Fleetwood Mac concert Saturday, I was expecting most of the people there to be middle-aged hippies.
Although many of them were of a certain age, and I did see people smoking unknown substances, there were also quite a few teenagers in attendance. And this greatly increases my faith in the musical taste of my generation.
The band started out with “Secondhand News,” which was apropos considering that is the first song off the 35-year-old “Rumours” album. The group followed with more songs from “Rumours” before playing a new song entitled “Sad Angel” from its not-yet-released EP.
Whenever a band releases new songs, there is the worry the songs won’t be as good as the old ones, but I was pleasantly surprised. “Sad Angel” is in keeping with the group’s old style, but it certainly isn’t redundant.
Fleetwood Mac then played songs from “Tusk,” one of its lesser-known albums. I wasn’t very familiar with the songs from this album before the concert. At any rate, Stevie Nicks impressed me with her vocals on the song “Sisters of the Moon.”
The band later returned to some of its more-classic songs, such as “Rhiannon,” “Gypsy” and “Landslide.” In the latter song, Lindsey Buckingham’s understated guitar-playing coupled with Nicks’ beautiful singing led to an exceptionally touching performance.
However, during “I’m So Afraid,” Buckingham showed off the true range of his guitar skills. It was as if he turned the guitar into a weapon he used to fight off the Jabberwocky. He gracefully moved across the stage while playing technically difficult solos. It was an impressive feat for a person of any age, let alone a 63-year-old.
Overall, I was utterly impressed by the entire concert. It only increased my love for my favorite band, and I’m so glad I got to experience Fleetwood Mac’s music live.
I would definitely recommend listening to the band’s albums, as well as going to one of its concerts — if you have the chance.
Grade: A+
nailatixela
04-12-2013, 08:45 AM
There's a boot for Ohio and NYC...but where's the love for Philly? I really hope an audio boot surfaces soon of this awesome show.
AbbiJoy78
04-12-2013, 12:36 PM
YES! I recorded both Philly and NYC, but the problem is my device belongs to a friend who is trying to graduate with her Masters right now and is too busy to give me the shows! LOL. IT WILL COME if it sounds good!!!
Lindsfan
04-12-2013, 01:22 PM
There's a boot for Ohio and NYC...but where's the love for Philly? I really hope an audio boot surfaces soon of this awesome show.
A Philly boot would be fantastic! Here's hoping Abbi's turn out :nod:
On the bright side, the clearest, most professional videos so far, are from the Philly show! 17 songs plus band intros (at last count) from tyrant2525 on YouTube.
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