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20 tracks were originally set for release as a double album but only 18 made the cut and it ended up being a single disc, does anyone know what the other 2 tracks were? Maybe the 2 tracks on the second disc on the deluxe edition?
Secondly the cd was enhanced with web links etc..can't access this content...any clues how to access it?
mylittledemon
03-08-2013, 04:42 PM
Hey Rich, the other two tracks were on the deluxe version of SYW (with the red cover)... they are "Love Minus Zero" and "Not Make Believe."
As far as the web content, I'd imagine the content doesn't exist any longer. You know how abysmal the band's management is with web-related stuff. ;)
chiliD
03-08-2013, 04:47 PM
Lindsey's Rolling Stones cover of "I Am Waiting" and "Gift Of Screws" were two songs that were originally slated for the double disc SYW (were "reviewed" in Guitar Player magazine edition with Lindsey on the cover before the final SYW tracking order was finalized)
mylittledemon
03-08-2013, 06:04 PM
Good stuff Chili! I had forgotten about those... makes since especially since GoS was supposed to be the album title. :thumbsup:
Additionally, it is rumoured that Stevie's compositions "Mistaken Love" and "All The Beautiful Worlds" were also recorded for the album, but I have never been able to substantiate this information. I remember reading about these titles somewhere on this forum back in the day - can anyone shed some light on this?
KarmaContestant
03-08-2013, 07:18 PM
Additionally, it is rumoured that Stevie's compositions "Mistaken Love" and "All The Beautiful Worlds" were also recorded for the album, but I have never been able to substantiate this information. I remember reading about these titles somewhere on this forum back in the day - can anyone shed some light on this?
I have no info, but I recall reading this as well.
Thanks for the replies...I'm working on a new edition of SYW for myself which drops 2 of Lindsey and Stevie's tracks and weaves in 4 tracks from Christine McVie's 'In the meantime' dropping
Murrow
Everybody finds out
running through the garden
come
and adding
friend
you are
calumny
givin' it back
any other ideas??
The cd single versions of SYW and Peacekeeper add a further problem in deciding which mix to use!!
Ulpian
03-09-2013, 04:45 AM
Thanks for the replies...I'm working on a new edition of SYW for myself which drops 2 of Lindsey and Stevie's tracks and weaves in 4 tracks from Christine McVie's 'In the meantime' dropping
Murrow
Everybody finds out
running through the garden
come
and adding
friend
you are
calumny
givin' it back
any other ideas??
The cd single versions of SYW and Peacekeeper add a further problem in deciding which mix to use!!
I love this idea, though I'd drop Givin It Back for Northern Star or Liar.
I'd keep the songs you're dropping of Stevie and Lindsey's except Come and get rid of Silver Girl, Red Rover and Illume.
:D
whatever happened to the original gift of screws album, would love to hear that one day
Josh2003
03-09-2013, 09:41 AM
whatever happened to the original gift of screws album, would love to hear that one day
Some of it's on Say You Will, some is on Under the Skin, and some is on Gift of Screws.
any information on the original 'bootleg' version of GOS as cited on wikepaedia?
any information on the original 'bootleg' version of GOS as cited on wikepaedia?
it's pure perfection - the best album that never was.
you can find bootlegs floating around and download the whole album. i usually like to add Wear You Down and Deep Dense to the songs that usually come on that bootleg file.
bluefox4000
03-09-2013, 10:42 AM
any information on the original 'bootleg' version of GOS as cited on wikepaedia?
It rivals OOTC....some days surpasses it. Too bad it was never released. Just glad I have it.
Mick
It rivals OOTC....some days surpasses it. Too bad it was never released. Just glad I have it.
Mick
WAY surprises it - any day. (imo, of course)
yes, at least we have that bootleg. :thumbsup: :cool:
jkmaletic
03-09-2013, 12:19 PM
Ugh. The mere mention of "Not Make Believe" still makes me irritated. The demo was sooo much better. I mean , WTH was up with Stevie's delivery in the finished version? - "It. Wasn't. Just. That. We. Caused. Each. Other. Such. Pain."
What the hell were they thinking? I remember being so excited to hear it because it was one of my favorites. So disappointing.
I hope "Without You" doesn't turn out like that did.
Jamie
Ugh. The mere mention of "Not Make Believe" still makes me irritated. The demo was sooo much better. I mean , WTH was up with Stevie's delivery in the finished version? - "It. Wasn't. Just. That. We. Caused. Each. Other. Such. Pain."
What the hell were they thinking? I remember being so excited to hear it because it was one of my favorites. So disappointing.
I hope "Without You" doesn't turn out like that did.
Jamie
never heard NMB demo and i'm not sure i'd want to.
but i did have to make a separate car CD where something else follows stellar Love Minus Zero, because having to hear Not Make Believe right after it would always almost make me want to swerve of the road.
MacShadowsBall
03-09-2013, 12:56 PM
I hardly ever give this album any attention. Christine's gone, Lindsey's songs are always my least favorite, and Stevie's voice during this era is just awful. :sorry:
...I kinda enjoy/like the Time album more than this one. :cool:
jkmaletic
03-09-2013, 01:14 PM
Granted that it's always a matter of opinion, when FM songs go badly I often think of this quote from Lindsey back in 2004: "Left to my own devices, I would've much rather preferred to be in a group like The Clash."
With all due respect to creativity, The Clash is nothing like FM, and vice-versa. So I think when one tries to combine the two it just turns to mush. There's times for "pushing the envelope" and then there are times to just leave the envelope alone.
Ulpian
03-09-2013, 01:36 PM
I hardly ever give this album any attention. Christine's gone, Lindsey's songs are always my least favorite, and Stevie's voice during this era is just awful. :sorry:
...I kinda enjoy/like the Time album more than this one. :cool:
I think Stevie sounds OK on this album and, if they'd pared it down to 12 songs, I would have loved it a lot more. I really don't like Lindsey's voice or 3 or 4 of his songs on it.
I'd have:
Murrow
Thrown Down
Miranda
Say You Will
Peacekeeper
Smile At You
Running Through The Garden
Steal Your Heart Away
Bleed to Love Her
Destiny Rules
Say goodbye
Goodbye Baby
I actually would have been OK with that, Christine-less though it may be.
:D
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