Somebody's go to see this through.....

[ryan4136]

Simple Question


You Do or You Don't

OR

Bleed to Love Her

[bluefox4000]

Bleed to Love Her, but it has to be The Dance version. Studio is crapola.:nod:

Mick

[I'msoAfraid95]

Dance version of Bleed to Love Her.

[shackin'up]

Any version of Bleed To Love Her. One of his best songs ever.

[holidayroad]

I like either YDOYD or The Dance version of BTLH.

[redtulip]

Any version of Bleed To Love Her. One of his best songs ever.

Agreed. But especially OMS. Perfection.

[lbfan]

You Do or You Don't is one my favorites. Bleed to Love Her is definitely a top 10 LB song. I don't understand the dislike of the studio version of BTLH. The "outro" is one of the best things about the song, and that isn't present on The Dance version or OMS.

[michelej1]

Not sure what you're asking for. If you're talking about for an FM concert, then I'd say BTLH.

Otherwise, my favorite is You Do or You Don't.

Michele

[Lori40]

Bleed To Love Her because it's about rejoining FM. and You Do or You Don't is about leaving FM.

[redtulip]

Bleed To Love Her because it's about rejoining FM. and You Do or You Don't is about leaving FM.

Curious if this is your own interpretation or Lindsey has said it somewhere? I've never heard that.

[chiliD]

I think the line fits "You Do Or You Don't" better.

Plus, that's the song that came out first..."Bleed To Love Her" is recycled lyric, not really "artistic" to me. Not a big fan of "artists" recycling their lyrical content verbatim. Come up with another way to phrase what you want to get across. :nod:

[McTrouble]

Simple Question


You Do or You Don't

OR

Bleed to Love Her

YDOYD

Adore the OMS version of BTLH so don't mind it not being in the FM set. But would love to hear YDOYD!

[elle]

Bleed To Love Her because it's about rejoining FM. and You Do or You Don't is about leaving FM.

Curious if this is your own interpretation or Lindsey has said it somewhere? I've never heard that.

me too.

i don't get all the love for the Dance version and all the hate for SYW or GOS1 version. was it just that you heard it on the dance first so that's your definitive version?

[Lori40]

Curious if this is your own interpretation or Lindsey has said it somewhere? I've never heard that.

Just my own interpretation. If I ever met Lindsey, I'd have a lot of questions about his music. I loved what he did with his promo video for SWS, and other than the few blurbs we got about a few songs on GOS, I can't remember seeing him speak about the meanings of his songs. Just when I think he wants us to make our own interpretations of his work, he'll mention something like fans misunderstanding SUD.

[michelej1]

He has talked about the BTLH lyrics though.

Michele

[Lori40]

He has talked about the BTLH lyrics though.

Michele

All I remember him saying about BTLH is that it was written over a number of years, and that part of the song was written at the beginning of a relationship, and part of it was written at the end of a relationship. I could be entirely wrong, and BTLH is really about a woman and not his band.

[lbfan]

Just when I think he wants us to make our own interpretations of his work, he'll mention something like fans misunderstanding SUD.
I thought Corey Sipper wrote "Shut Us Down" and LB took co-songwriting credit as he developed the instrumental guitar solo version. I enjoy her version of the song, really haunting. I did not care forLisa Sewy's Version of "Stars Are Crazy." Lyrical interpretation of these two songs never made any sense to me as I don't believe LB wrote the lyrics.

[Lindsfan]

I thought Corey Sipper wrote "Shut Us Down" and LB took co-songwriting credit as he developed the instrumental guitar solo version. I enjoy her version of the song, really haunting. I did not care forLisa Sewy's Version of "Stars Are Crazy." Lyrical interpretation of these two songs never made any sense to me as I don't believe LB wrote the lyrics.

I'm not in the business, so have no idea where the line is betwen lyrical interpretation, and a co-write :shrug: He did do a fair amount of changes to the lyrics though, to both songs.

Just my own interpretation. If I ever met Lindsey, I'd have a lot of questions about his music. I loved what he did with his promo video for SWS, and other than the few blurbs we got about a few songs on GOS, I can't remember seeing him speak about the meanings of his songs. Just when I think he wants us to make our own interpretations of his work, he'll mention something like fans misunderstanding SUD.

I never heard that before, but it's one of my favorite songs, so I'd love to know exactly what he said? Do you recall?

[Lori40]

I never heard that before, but it's one of my favorite songs, so I'd love to know exactly what he said? Do you recall?

He just mentioned that he thought the fans were taking SUD to mean that Lindsey won't quit making music, and performing, but it is really about a relationship (I'm assuming between him and a woman, like maybe Stevie). I know that he did not write the song, but I do think that Lindsey chooses other writers' songs for a reason.

[michelej1]

All I remember him saying about BTLH is that it was written over a number of years, and that part of the song was written at the beginning of a relationship, and part of it was written at the end of a relationship. I could be entirely wrong, and BTLH is really about a woman and not his band.

Here are a couple of LB comments about it.

Bleed to Love Her: "It does have the element of having to sacrifice your blood in order to get back what is sometimes worthwhile and the elusiveness of it. I mean the verses, that was written over a period of years actually, that song, and the verses were much later. In other words, the chorus, "bleed to love her," was written at the top of a new relationship and the verses, "pretending that she's not there," you know, the elusiveness of all of that, was written near the end."

More BTLH: "That song actually sort of evolved over about a two year period and when I wrote the chorus in which that appears - "bleed to love her" - uh, I had just entered into a relationship with someone and I really felt that I, you know, would be willing to bleed in order to make that work. And then of course maybe two years later, uh, things had kind of, um, drifted a little bit and the verses in there are talking about how elusive someone can be, ah, which I guess is the other side of the coin."

[Lori40]

Here are a couple of LB comments about it.

Bleed to Love Her: "It does have the element of having to sacrifice your blood in order to get back what is sometimes worthwhile and the elusiveness of it. I mean the verses, that was written over a period of years actually, that song, and the verses were much later. In other words, the chorus, "bleed to love her," was written at the top of a new relationship and the verses, "pretending that she's not there," you know, the elusiveness of all of that, was written near the end."

More BTLH: "That song actually sort of evolved over about a two year period and when I wrote the chorus in which that appears - "bleed to love her" - uh, I had just entered into a relationship with someone and I really felt that I, you know, would be willing to bleed in order to make that work. And then of course maybe two years later, uh, things had kind of, um, drifted a little bit and the verses in there are talking about how elusive someone can be, ah, which I guess is the other side of the coin."


Thanks, Michele. I don't think I ever read the second quote anywhere else before. I guess that settles it, BTLH is about a relationship with a woman and not FM.

[mylittledemon]

Bleed to Love Her, but it has to be The Dance version. Studio is crapola.:nod:

Mick

Aww, I like both! Actually I do prefer The Dance version, but I love the ending on the SYW version. :D

[elle]

Here are a couple of LB comments about it.

Bleed to Love Her: "It does have the element of having to sacrifice your blood in order to get back what is sometimes worthwhile and the elusiveness of it. I mean the verses, that was written over a period of years actually, that song, and the verses were much later. In other words, the chorus, "bleed to love her," was written at the top of a new relationship and the verses, "pretending that she's not there," you know, the elusiveness of all of that, was written near the end."

More BTLH: "That song actually sort of evolved over about a two year period and when I wrote the chorus in which that appears - "bleed to love her" - uh, I had just entered into a relationship with someone and I really felt that I, you know, would be willing to bleed in order to make that work. And then of course maybe two years later, uh, things had kind of, um, drifted a little bit and the verses in there are talking about how elusive someone can be, ah, which I guess is the other side of the coin."

thanks Michele.

he's so overdramatic sometimes with these "bleeding" "heroic" etc descriptions. sometimes i wonder whether he uses those words as much out of their regular meaning as when he says "burning the bridges" :laugh:

which relationship was that btw? early 90s? he was with Anne Heche less than a year, right? so Cheri or someone else? seems it would be too early for Kristen, before the dance.

[Lindsfan]

He just mentioned that he thought the fans were taking SUD to mean that Lindsey won't quit making music, and performing, but it is really about a relationship (I'm assuming between him and a woman, like maybe Stevie). I know that he did not write the song, but I do think that Lindsey chooses other writers' songs for a reason.

Huh. Do a lot of fans think that?? I never, ever took it to be about anything other than a relationship. I figured it was about Kristen.

Lindsey's just like anyone else, in that he appreciates lyrics he can relate to. Just most people can't then take the songs we like, and make them even better :cool:

[michelej1]

thanks Michele.

he's so overdramatic sometimes with these "bleeding" "heroic" etc descriptions.

Yes, ironic coming from someone who is NOT the romantic one.

LB: Stevie's always been more the romantic and the poet. She romanticizes her own romanticism. That's what makes her Stevie. I tend to be more of a realist in my lyrics. She's more up in the clouds with her vision, and I'm tending to be more on the ground.

[Lilyfan]

Yes, ironic coming from someone who is NOT the romantic one.

LB: Stevie's always been more the romantic and the poet. She romanticizes her own romanticism. That's what makes her Stevie. I tend to be more of a realist in my lyrics. She's more up in the clouds with her vision, and I'm tending to be more on the ground.

Funny, he's a Libra and she's a Gemini - both air signs with dual personalities. LOL

[Stormwind]

Well i prefer Bleed to Love Her. A question for you: why Lindsey decided to use the same verse ? Any specific reason ?

[Phil]

I really dig You Do Or You Don't, but I prefer Bleed To Love Her - it's a superb song. I have to say I am more partial to the live version on The Dance, but appreciate the extended outro on the studio take. I think the harmonies during the chorus are more pronounced on The Dance than on Say You Will and I always thought there had been a concerted effort to mix Christine's backing vocals up in the mix at the expense of Stevie's (she can be heard more clearly on the live version). I also think that the studio version suffers slightly from what sounds like a kind of synthetic mid 1990's production whereas The Dance version is more acoustic sounding. (I realise that The Dance as a whole is not exactly live as it had been tweaked to death in post-production.)
I've always wanted Lindsey and Stevie to attempt a truly acoustic version of Bleed To Love Her (and also Down On Rodeo) in concert.

[redtulip]

I really dig You Do Or You Don't, but I prefer Bleed To Love Her - it's a superb song. I have to say I am more partial to the live version on The Dance, but appreciate the extended outro on the studio take. I think the harmonies during the chorus are more pronounced on The Dance than on Say You Will and I always thought there had been a concerted effort to mix Christine's backing vocals up in the mix at the expense of Stevie's (she can be heard more clearly on the live version). I also think that the studio version suffers slightly from what sounds like a kind of synthetic mid 1990's production whereas The Dance version is more acoustic sounding. (I realise that The Dance as a whole is not exactly live as it had been tweaked to death in post-production.)
I've always wanted Lindsey and Stevie to attempt a truly acoustic version of Bleed To Love Her (and also Down On Rodeo) in concert.

While there is no Stevie, the One Man Show version of BTLH is acoustic and amazing. And there is no Stevie here either, but acoustic DOR:

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[McTrouble]

While there is no Stevie, the One Man Show version of BTLH is acoustic and amazing. And there is no Stevie here either, but acoustic DOR:

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Well thank the heavens there is no SN on these two wonderful songs! :p :D

[llb]

you do or you don't

[redbird]

You don't have to be as hyperromantic as Stevie to have feelings though, everyone has feelings that sometimes are so strong that they're moved to, well, poetry, by them. Thing about Stevie is how long she spends in her worlds of fancy, I get the feeling Lindsey intellectualizes his feelings a lot until he can't any more and then they come out in bursts of whatever they happen to be. Stevie would rather keep the feelings around always, but maybe delete some of the uglier parts for her own purposes.