Forgotten Fleetwood Mac

[cantgoback]

In response to a a conversation in the Analyzing Album Covers: Mirage, what songs/albums are most forgotten by the general public and Fleetwood Mac fans, there are plenty of songs from Mirage, the album itself is pretty unknown with the exception of songs like "Gypsy" or "Hold Me" that were big radio hits. A whole lotta albums before SN and LB joined.

[redbird]

Warm Ways and Empire State?

[MikeInNV]

In response to a a conversation in the Analyzing Album Covers: Mirage, what songs/albums are most forgotten by the general public and Fleetwood Mac fans, there are plenty of songs from Mirage, the album itself is pretty unknown with the exception of songs like "Gypsy" or "Hold Me" that were big radio hits. A whole lotta albums before SN and LB joined.

Yes, but what i think Michele was getting at is that some songs seem to be forgotten even here, where we discuss everything to death. Mirage had 3 singles, and two big hits, but even songs like "Eyes of the World" and "Straight Back" are mentioned on the Ledge with some regularity; the song that inspired this thread, "Book of Love," for whatever reason, is not.

[Blueletter18]

Warm Ways
Never Make Me Cry
Honey Hi
Never Forget
That's Enough for Me
Book of Love
Only Over You
Mystified
When I See You Again
Everybody Finds Out

[MikeInNV]

Warm Ways
Never Make Me Cry
Honey Hi
Never Forget
That's Enough for Me
Book of Love
Only Over You
Mystified
When I See You Again
Everybody Finds Out

A pretty good list, but you definitely have to take WISYA out. Haters (and a handful of defenders) love to discuss that one.

[Blueletter18]

A pretty good list, but you definitely have to take WISYA out. Haters (and a handful of defenders) love to discuss that one.

Haha good point. There were a few other ones I almost included, but then I remembered that they will never be forgotten because they are too terrible to fade away (Family Man, Welcome to the Room Sara, Empire State...).

[WatchChain]

Come A Little Bit Closer
The Derelict
Never Make Me Cry
That's Alright
Wish You Were Here
Illume
Warm Ways
Honey Hi

I know that Fleetwood Mac fanatics and Ledgies have discussed this song to death, BUT, to the general population, "BEAUTIFUL CHILD" is one of the greatest unknown/forgotten songs by the band. YES, YES, I know it was pulled out and dusted off for the SYW TOUR and the LIVE IN BOSTON dvd, but, I don't hear it mentioned or covered very much. It is simply one of the most melancholic and regretful songs ever recorded.

[Villavic]

Only over you, Wish you were here (yes, plenty of Mirage).

Many of us would be more than happy to see Tango in the Night included in the setlist. It could be a perfect replacement of I'm so afraid (love it, too, but it needs a break).

[michelej1]

Yes, but what i think Michele was getting at is that some songs seem to be forgotten even here, where we discuss everything to death. Mirage had 3 singles, and two big hits, but even songs like "Eyes of the World" and "Straight Back" are mentioned on the Ledge with some regularity; the song that inspired this thread, "Book of Love," for whatever reason, is not.

Right, casual fans may not know "Straight Back," but it's quite a favorite here. We are always talking about the duet with Christine, the country sound, etc.

And we also talk about songs we hate rather frequently (WTTRS, Family Man, Sugar Daddy, etc.)

Michele

[FierySequences]

Only over you, Wish you were here (yes, plenty of Mirage).

Many of us would be more than happy to see Tango in the Night included in the setlist. It could be a perfect replacement of I'm so afraid (love it, too, but it needs a break).

Yes, I was going to say Wish you were here

which (I've always thought) had a strange similarity to the opening chords of SS (dance version) :shrug:

[WatchChain]

Haha good point. There were a few other ones I almost included, but then I remembered that they will never be forgotten because they are too terrible to fade away (Family Man, Welcome to the Room Sara, Empire State...).

Ha Ha, love this quote...."TOO TERRIBLE TO FADE AWAY".......The "What Were They Thinking List" includes:

The Second Time
Save Me
Paper Doll
Freedom
Stand on the Rock
Hard Feelings
Welcome to the Room, Sara (Frontline Baby)

AND (drumroll please).....may I PLEASE INCLUDE one Stevie Nicks solo song in this list?.....LADIES AND GENTLEMEN....the all time worst song EVER RECORDED by anyone associated with Fleetwood Mac is............"Jane" by Stevie Nicks......(children of the world, the forgotten chimpanzee)

[WatchChain]

Yes, I was going to say Wish you were here

which (I've always thought) had a strange similarity to the opening chords of SS (dance version) :shrug:

Sequences,
you are RIGHT !!! The opening chords to "Wish You Were Here" sound exactly like the opening to the LIVE VERSION of "Silver Springs" on THE DANCE cd. I've thought about this for years.

[MikeInNV]

I don't see too many Stevie songs making this list because even among her non-hits, there is nearly universal love (SOTM), nearly universal hate (Silver Girl), or some polarizing effect that leads to a lot of debate. For better or worse, you really don't ignore a Stevie song. :angel:

[FierySequences]

And we also talk about songs we hate rather frequently (WTTRS, Family Man, Sugar Daddy, etc.)

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hmm, I had to figure out WTTRS was lol. Officially there are no songs of FM I actually hate, but there are ones I could live without(or just skip/tune out)

I happen to like all songs you mentioned, but I love me some Sugar Daddy!

Songs I could do w/o:

(Warm Ways actually grew on me in recent years)
SMAP, WATL, TAFE or anything strumming/folksy from LB 79-80 period.-I guess this is my equivelent to SN self-indulgent WISYA and TST that almost EVERYONE hates
Straight Back (Garbo, Sleeping Angel, or Blue Lamp would have been a better pick)
Only Over You
Mystified
The Second Time

[bombaysaffires]

hmm, I had to figure out WTTRS was lol. Officially there are no songs of FM I actually hate, but there are ones I could live without(or just skip/tune out)

I happen to like all songs you mentioned, but I love me some Sugar Daddy!

Songs I could do w/o:

(Warm Ways actually grew on me in recent years)
SMAP, WATL, TAFE or anything strumming/folksy from LB 79-80 period.-I guess this is my equivelent to SN self-indulgent WISYA and TST that almost EVERYONE hates
Straight Back (Garbo, Sleeping Angel, or Blue Lamp would have been a better pick)
Only Over You
Mystified
The Second Time


I forgot about The Second Time!! LOL. It's one of those songs where the lyrics make more sense on paper than they do sung in the song--- seems like the line breaks in the vocal break up the lyrics in places where it doesn't make as much sense to me.

Does anyone have any insights into who it might be about? Who was Stevie having a second time around with? A man? Or the band...?

[SteveMacD]

Ha Ha, love this quote...."TOO TERRIBLE TO FADE AWAY".......The "What Were They Thinking List" includes:

The Second Time
Save Me
Paper Doll
Freedom
Stand on the Rock
Hard Feelings
Welcome to the Room, Sara (Frontline Baby)

AND (drumroll please).....may I PLEASE INCLUDE one Stevie Nicks solo song in this list?.....LADIES AND GENTLEMEN....the all time worst song EVER RECORDED by anyone associated with Fleetwood Mac is............"Jane" by Stevie Nicks......(children of the world, the forgotten chimpanzee)



I think they clearly had the wrong producer for BTM. Some of those songs would have been great with a different presentation. "Save Me", for instance, has good lyrics, a good melody, and a killer guitar solo. But they put in a bunch of annoying things NOT relevant to the song. They forgot the "less is more" mantra of Peter Green, and it sounds like it was a very corporate-driven album.

I'd add to your list:
Empire State
Ricky
Silver Girl
Family Man

[redbird]

I really dig "Empire State" and "Sugar Daddy". "Family Man" and "Welcome to the Room" however, I won't defend.

[moon]

Forgotten songs???
Well, we mentioned some of them lot of times here on the board, but we know they're the forgotten...
My list: (only from the Rumours era?)

- Sugar Daddy & Oh Daddy
- Can't Go Back
- That's Alright (not sure; we mentioned it lot of times because it's from the Buckingham Nicks years)
- Book Of Love
- Only Over You
- Empire State
- Straight Back
- Wish You Were Here
- Tango In The Night??
- Mystified
- Family Man
- When I see you again
- You & I, part II
- Miranda
- Silver Girl & Sweet Girl
- and Everybody Finds Out, come on!!!!!!!

As you can see, lot of songs from Mirage.
Not sure about the Tusk songs.
And now I'm thinking about the pre-Rumours era songs!
Regards!

[SteveMacD]

Here's THE most forgotten Fleetwood Mac song ever. I bet the band's even forgot about it. It needs to be recorded.


Baby It's Alright Now (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuYmu5It-p8)

[sanders8323]

I see nobody's mentioned "Caroline" yet. I think it's brilliant the way it segues into "Tango in the Night." It'd be awesome to witness that combo live.

[sjpdg]

Only over you, Wish you were here (yes, plenty of Mirage).

Many of us would be more than happy to see Tango in the Night included in the setlist. It could be a perfect replacement of I'm so afraid (love it, too, but it needs a break).

Problem is that "Tango" guitar solo is basically "I'm So Afraid" in different packaging. Not getting much on the change if that's the song that replaces it in my opinion.

[TheSorcerer]

Family Man - LOVE this song.
Honey Hi - I adore the harmonies in this.
Love Is Dangerous
In the Back of My Mind
Heart of Stone - Should've been a single.
That's Alright
Illume - One of my favourite FM songs, it's so mystical and enchanting.
Caroline
Freedom
Temporary One

[chriskisn]

the all time worst song EVER RECORDED by anyone associated with Fleetwood Mac is............"Jane" by Stevie Nicks......(children of the world, the forgotten chimpanzee)
[/B]

I'd have to say that there are probably worse songs than Jane EVER recorded by anyone associated with Fleetwood Mac. There are some pretty bad ones by the lesser members. Try the couple of Donovan's Brain albums that feature Dave Walker, Frog Prince by Billy Burnette, or pretty much anything that was re-recorded by Bob Welch in his later years or indeed try "Bob Welch Sings the Best Songs Ever". :nod:

For the Rumours Era though, I think you can't go past Lizard People in terms of being not only forgotten (thankfully) but also terrible! I'd add Cool Water to being a close second!

[Andrew Smith]

Four songs from the Tango In The Night era:

Caroline
Tango In The Night (title track)
Isn't It Midnight
Ricky

[TheWILDheart]

Goodbye Angel
Fireflies
Make Me A Mask
Teen Beat
As Long As You Follow
Ricky
Book of Love

[Josh2003]

I think "Warm Ways" is one of FM's most underrated & best "forgotten" song. It's such a beautiful song, and never gets any love.

[bluecalmsea]

I think "Warm Ways" is one of FM's most underrated & best "forgotten" song. It's such a beautiful song, and never gets any love.

It's funny to me how many people people dislike this song~ as can be seen in the "song elimination" thread. It was actually one of my first Mac loves, I used to listen to it every night before bed.

[On Ice]

Here's THE most forgotten Fleetwood Mac song ever. I bet the band's even forgot about it. It needs to be recorded.

Stevemac, what a great find! I didn't know that existed and I love the early 70's rollicking Christine McVie sound.

As a "forgotten" song, I'm going for my favourite, Over and Over which I think is the tune that best displays the talents of the fab 5, everything is just perfect about this song, but it gets overshadowed by its Rumours counterparts.

[bombaysaffires]

I think "Warm Ways" is one of FM's most underrated & best "forgotten" song. It's such a beautiful song, and never gets any love.

musically it's lovely, though the lyric "you made me a woman tonight" was always a tad cringe-
worthy

[bluecalmsea]

musically it's lovely, though the lyric "you made me a woman tonight" was always a tad cringe-
worthy

Agreed!! :laugh:

[seekerj]

I think "Warm Ways" is one of FM's most underrated & best "forgotten" song. It's such a beautiful song, and never gets any love.

I think it's a snooze-fest. If it was meant to be a lullaby, then it definitely succeeded.

But I LOVE "Jane". And "Welcome To The Room... Sara", and especially "When I See You Again". I just don't get what is so bad about any of them.

[TheWILDheart]

But I LOVE "Jane". And "Welcome To The Room... Sara", and especially "When I See You Again". I just don't get what is so bad about any of them.

"Jane" has dreadful lyrics and a dull vocal, and on "When I See You Again" Stevie sounds like an old bagpipe and it's both musically and lyrically rather uninspiring.

I do like WTTRS though :D

[redbird]

I think of "When I See You Again" as a song that never realized its potential. The verse about staring at stairs is sophomoric, but I actually think the verse about dreams is beautifully painful (painfully beautiful?). And even the stairs verse conveys some feeling of bereftness, drifting and aimless in one's loneliness. Stevie was always a dreamer and this song has her dream on its last gasping breath, I can't help but be moved by it, but lyrically and vocally it needs retooling.

[chiliD]

Yes, I was going to say Wish you were here

which (I've always thought) had a strange similarity to the opening chords of SS (dance version) :shrug:

Sequences,
you are RIGHT !!! The opening chords to "Wish You Were Here" sound exactly like the opening to the LIVE VERSION of "Silver Springs" on THE DANCE cd. I've thought about this for years.

Technically, it's the other way around. The opening piano part of The Dance version of "Silver Springs" is eerily similar to "Wish You Were Here" (considering "Wish You Were Here" came first chronologically). "Silver Springs" never had that piano opening prior to The Dance...it always started with Lindsey's volume pedal guitar opening.

[bombaysaffires]

"Jane" has dreadful lyrics and a dull vocal, and on "When I See You Again" Stevie sounds like an old bagpipe and it's both musically and lyrically rather uninspiring.

I do like WTTRS though :D

omg that made my tea come out my nose!!

with regard to WISYA... I always wondered if it was written about her breakup with Kim. I guess it was the line "if she sees him again/will your very best friend/will your very best friend/have been replaced by some other"
Like as long as Kim was with her, it wasn't like he'd replaced Robin or something...you know, in Stevie-logic. Just a thought.

[I'msoAfraid95]

The Derelict
Honey Hi
(I'm a) Roadrunner
Hi Ho Silver
What Makes You Think You're the One
Not That Funny
Station Man

I'll probably see more when I go on to my Last Fm page.

[I'msoAfraid95]

Gonna add a few more:
Bermuda Triangle
The Ledge
No Questions Asked
Danny's Chant
Night Watch
Buddy's Song
Sunny Side of Heaven
Why
Everywhere
These Strange Times(kill me I like it)
Man of the World

[TheWILDheart]

Everywhere
Man of the World

....Not quite. These are probably 2 of the most popular.

[Dragonfly]

Crystal

Tango In The Night

Isn't It Midnight

Caroline

Destiny Rules

Everybody Finds Out


Love them all:thumbsup:

[cantgoback]

I think "Warm Ways" is one of FM's most underrated & best "forgotten" song. It's such a beautiful song, and never gets any love.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, I just love that song so much.

[michelej1]

....Not quite. These are probably 2 of the most popular.

I was just reading about this Everywhere cover:

http://stereogum.com/1260711/selebrities-%E2%80%9Ceverywhere%E2%80%9D-feat-erika-spring-lissy-trullie-fleetwood-mac-cover/mp3s/

As a kind of Valentine’s Day gift to the world, the Brooklyn-based designer-pop trio Selebrities have covered Fleetwood Mac’s 1987 trifle “Everywhere,” enlisting New York singers Erika Spring and Lissy Trullie to help out on the spectral harmonies. If you’re familiar with the original, you know that its soft deep-chiffon vibe, which sounds extraordinarily 2013, cannot be an easy thing to replicate it, but Selebrites, more or less, nail it. Listen below.