View Full Version : What songs do you want to hear least (Realistically)
Hawkeye
02-04-2013, 02:53 AM
I added realistically because this isn't a thread for songs were most sick of. I know 90 percent of us would like for them to not play Dreams, but that's not realalistic. I do sort of agree with the band that there are certain songs they shouldn't exclude, but I disagree with how long their Must Do list actually is. I will be very upset to see any of these songs in th 2013 set:
1. Monday Morning- this song probably tops my list. It's in no way a must do and if they try to pass this off as a surprise song again I'll be pissed. It was a cool opener And song to hear for the one tour but thats enough.
2. Stand Back- I already mentioned this in detail in the IYD thread but I don't want to hear the excuse of this being an honarary Mac song and it not being a must do. It stole the show for one tour (SYW) not any tour before that or after. If they're gonna contemplate adding other solo stuff this needs to go.
3. Never Going Back Again- all the songs on my list are very enjoyable to me in concert. They just need to go for the sake of making room. That is except for this one. I know Lindsey feels this is his Landslide or something but it does not need to be played. Hes worse then Stevie with insisting on playing this song. This could easily be replaced with save me a place or one of his many solo guitar songs from this decade.
4. Gypsy or Sara- I think she should do one of these, I don't care which.
5. World Turning- another one I've never not enjoyed thoroughly each time I they've played it but there's so many other songs mick could do his solo on. more then this song, I just don't want the encores to be the same on this tour.
6. Silver Springs- she kicked this songs ass again on the unleashed tour unlike SYW and it was a great way to close the show but I think it's 3 tour streak is enough.
7. Say you love me- now that I think about it, this is actually higher then Monday morning for me. Please don't waste any set space on doing a poor rendition of any Christine song for that matter.
8. I don't want to know- didn't say this list is limited to what they've actually played. I have a VERY strong feeling they will do this song on this tour. It fits micks whole buckingham nicks focus for part of the show, and they're on a big rumours kick (more then the usual rumours kick) and thats the one song they could still call a surprise and play a rumours song. But I just don't want it.
WildHearted
02-04-2013, 07:55 AM
Yeah, Stevie really doesn't HAVE to play Stand Back. She has plenty of Fleetwood Mac "hits"... it's entirely unnecessary. If she and Lindsey are going to play music from IYD and SWS they need to cut Stand Back and Go Insane, in my opinion.
I like Never Going Back Again. He just needs to speed it up some. It's ridiculously slow to the point that it's almost obnoxious now.. and I say this about one of my favorite FM songs ever.
And I'd be happy to hear I Don't Want to Know. Actually, I'd be happy to hear just about anything we haven't heard before (or at least, not in 40 years).
louielouie2000
02-04-2013, 07:55 AM
Don't Stop. I don't care if Christine herself comes back to sing it. I just plain don't like the song, it's cheesy & so very un Mac-like.
KenshiMaster16
02-04-2013, 08:35 AM
I'd rather not hear Second Hand News, Gypsy or their God-awful version of Say You Love Me and instead give me Sisters, What Makes You... and a Buckingham Nicks tune.
FierySequences
02-04-2013, 09:42 AM
Unrealistically-Landslide, from your list-NGBA
Hawkeye
02-04-2013, 10:34 AM
After thinking about it NGBA may not be realalistic to not be done at this point. The fact that it wasn't played on the dance tour is the only thing making it somewhat realalistic. But again, I think Lindsey has this on the same pedestal as so afraid, which at least deserves it's pedestal.
There are quite a few that I could do without....just taking the 2009 setlist...
Monday Morning - I totally agree that it was a nice song to bring back for the one tour and quite a surprise to open with something OTHER than The Chain for the first time since what, 1990?
I Know I'm Not Wrong - I like the song, I like that it's an obscure Tusk song that made the set, but after playing it in 2004 and 2009, it's time to let it go. This isn't some popular warhorse, most of the audience is like "what is this song?" and there are plenty of other never- or rarely played gems that could take it's place.
Gypsy - unless it's totally revamped (similar to the acoustic version they did in 2000 at the AHI benefit), they could never do this song justice on stage, and it's only gotten worse since The Dance DVD (the last time I enjoyed it).
Go Insane - No more. If Lindsey must do a solo song again, pick something else. Something off one of his most recent albums or my favorite from Out of the Cradle, Countdown!
Sara - After putting this song out to pasture for over 20 years, it was great to have it revived in 2004 and 2009, but again, if it makes room for some other lost gems (Angel, Sisters, hell, even Seven Wonders), I say it's time for Sara to take a hike.
Big Love - I'm sorry, but this song has gotten old. The song wasn't THAT big of a hit and surely the song itself isn't why it's so popular when Lindsey plays it. I think it has a LOT more to do with the fact that one man, a guitar, and a microphone are generating that much music at one time with no accompaniment that is why this is so popular. Lindsey could give another song the "Big Love" treatment and I think it too would be a good thing.
Storms - Once was enough, time for something else.
Say You Love Me - They did an admirable job trying to show some love to Chris, but I'd rather hear Hold Me or Little Lies if they wanted to tackle one of her tunes again.
Stand Back - I know Stevie loves this one because she feels she doesn't have an up tempo rocker in her Fleetwood Mac songs...but I'd be all about replacing it with Angel, or better yet, Everybody Finds Out.
World Turning - I don't like this song, I never did, and I never will. I think it makes for an awful choice as an encore...in particular with the drum solo (which was at least half tolerable in it's 2009 format without the dumb pads that Mick was rocking for 20 years).
Don't Stop - No, please do stop. This song is tired and boring without Chris on the keys.
Sleepless-Child
02-04-2013, 11:38 AM
I added realistically because this isn't a thread for songs were most sick of. I know 90 percent of us would like for them to not play Dreams, but that's not realalistic. I do sort of agree with the band that there are certain songs they shouldn't exclude, but I disagree with how long their Must Do list actually is. I will be very upset to see any of these songs in th 2013 set:
1. Monday Morning- this song probably tops my list. It's in no way a must do and if they try to pass this off as a surprise song again I'll be pissed. It was a cool opener And song to hear for the one tour but thats enough.
2. Stand Back- I already mentioned this in detail in the IYD thread but I don't want to hear the excuse of this being an honarary Mac song and it not being a must do. It stole the show for one tour (SYW) not any tour before that or after. If they're gonna contemplate adding other solo stuff this needs to go.
3. Never Going Back Again- all the songs on my list are very enjoyable to me in concert. They just need to go for the sake of making room. That is except for this one. I know Lindsey feels this is his Landslide or something but it does not need to be played. Hes worse then Stevie with insisting on playing this song. This could easily be replaced with save me a place or one of his many solo guitar songs from this decade.
4. Gypsy or Sara- I think she should do one of these, I don't care which.
5. World Turning- another one I've never not enjoyed thoroughly each time I they've played it but there's so many other songs mick could do his solo on. more then this song, I just don't want the encores to be the same on this tour.
6. Silver Springs- she kicked this songs ass again on the unleashed tour unlike SYW and it was a great way to close the show but I think it's 3 tour streak is enough.
7. Say you love me- now that I think about it, this is actually higher then Monday morning for me. Please don't waste any set space on doing a poor rendition of any Christine song for that matter.
8. I don't want to know- didn't say this list is limited to what they've actually played. I have a VERY strong feeling they will do this song on this tour. It fits micks whole buckingham nicks focus for part of the show, and they're on a big rumours kick (more then the usual rumours kick) and thats the one song they could still call a surprise and play a rumours song. But I just don't want it.
I especially agree with this. I was genuinely bored during NGBA in 2009, and it's a pity because it's one of my top 10 FM songs. He needs to speed it up definitely. The whispering is getting ridiculous. Is he trying to be sexy? I mean this song is all about passion and anger, i think his interpretation is wrong. Maybe he's doing the song differently because he has grown, blablabla, cycles, but i think he's wrong on this one.
Also Monday Morning, SHN, and SYLM : OUT. Lindsey wrote so many beautiful songs for Tusk that would fit prefectly in a setlist. I want The Ledge.
vivfox
02-04-2013, 12:37 PM
World Turning - the drum solo (which was at least half tolerable in it's 2009 format without the dumb pads that Mick was rocking for 20 years).
Don't Stop - No, please do stop. This song is tired and boring without Chris on the keys.
Everyone hates Mick's solo but Mick. You cracked me up with your thoughts on Don't Stop.
Macfanforever
02-04-2013, 01:06 PM
Everyone hates Mick's solo but Mick. You cracked me up with your thoughts on Don't Stop.
I like Micks solo.It gives him time in the spotlight but I would like to see World Turning to be shorten a little bit since it drags alittle and maybe sneak in another tune into the setlist since it will be more time.
Thats my only complaint .
I think the concert goers use this tune to get a beer something to eat or go to the bathroom.
TheSorcerer
02-04-2013, 01:16 PM
The only song I wish they would drop is Stand Back. I agree with a comment made a few weeks back about it sounding almost like a wall of sound. She shouts rather than sings and the words come out so fast that it's almost like she wants to get it over and done with. I have to admit that I just cringe during most of the performances because it sounds downright awful more times than not. I understand the song gets the energy going but if they insist on performing a solo song then do Rooms on Fire or Stop Dragging My Heart Around with Lindsey.
So yeah, Stand Back is going to signal a toilet break for me if they do it again this year.
Don't Stop is another track I wouldn't miss but that will never go. I've also never cared for Never Going Back Again.
Bandon
02-04-2013, 02:19 PM
"Sisters of the Moon" because nothing will compare to the Mirage Tour version and I think a new live version would be a let down.
I'msoAfraid95
02-04-2013, 02:32 PM
I agree with Stand Back.
I would also like to Landslide drop from the set, but I have more of a chance of seeing snow than that happening. :( :sorry:
I agree with Don't Stop and any Christine song unless she is touring with them.
I will edit if I think of more.
michelej1
02-04-2013, 02:33 PM
2. Stand Back- I already mentioned this in detail in the IYD thread but I don't want to hear the excuse of this being an honarary Mac song and it not being a must do. It stole the show for one tour (SYW) not any tour before that or after. If they're gonna contemplate adding other solo stuff this needs to go.
I think Stand Back also stole the show for the Cage and Mask tours. It gave me something to look forward to when things looked dreary.
But if they can put in an FM Stevie song that will get the crowd on its feet, then they should do that. She has a lot of songs that the audience loves, but if she also needs one that will make them jump up and start dancing. Rhiannon may foot that bill and Stand Back certainly does. But it would be great to substitute it with something FM.
Generally, I'm not in favor of them doing solo songs. If you like them as solo artists, I think you should want them to keep things sacred for their solo shows. Let them carve out and build up that solo identity. EO17 is Stevie's show stopping pinnacle and it should stay that way. If you bring it to FM you lose some of the magic.
Lindsey did not use Go Insane during the SYW tour and it made me appreciate it all the more when he went on his solo tour after that. It makes the artist stronger if they have their own set that is distinct from FM's.
Michele
michelej1
02-04-2013, 02:38 PM
Don't Stop. I don't care if Christine herself comes back to sing it. I just plain don't like the song, it's cheesy & so very un Mac-like.
I think the song is Mac-like, an aspect of Fleetwood Mac, but Christine singlehandedly brought this band to its knees with Don't Stop and Little Lies. I mean, I'm very proud to have them in the catalog, but it's not what you want out there as representation. it gives people a wrong idea of what FM is. It is those songs, but thank heaven it's far from being only those songs.
I mean, Christine's most popular songs catapulted the band into the same category as The Captain and Tennille. No one wants to stand for muskrat love.
Michele
michelej1
02-04-2013, 02:42 PM
After thinking about it NGBA may not be realalistic to not be done at this point. The fact that it wasn't played on the dance tour is the only thing making it somewhat realalistic. But again, I think Lindsey has this on the same pedestal as so afraid, which at least deserves it's pedestal.
Pretty interesting what Lindsey was doing back in The Dance. I mean, one time he tried to go without both Second Hand News and NGBA. Instead he had Eyes of the World in there. That didn't last and I was so happy to hear SHN. I welcomed its return like a lost brother, but I applaud Lindsey experimenting with leaving both of those Rumours songs out and I wish he would do more of that in the future during his solo shows, especially if he is going to go out without a band again. He needs to make the hard omissions.
Michele
michelej1
02-04-2013, 02:51 PM
I especially agree with this. I was genuinely bored during NGBA in 2009, and it's a pity because it's one of my top 10 FM songs. He needs to speed it up definitely. The whispering is getting ridiculous. Is he trying to be sexy? I mean this song is all about passion and anger, i think his interpretation is wrong. Maybe he's doing the song differently because he has grown, blablabla, cycles, but i think he's wrong on this one.
I don't think the song is about anger, but I agree that the way he is performing it is dull and stupid. I don't even know what his deal is. I mean why does he think that sounds good? Because the audience "ooohs" during those long pauses? Insane.
He's done it much better in the the older tours. As far as his interpretation, I think it's good and can be playful and frisky with the right tempo, but I remember when I heard Matchbox Twenty's I found it to be a revelation. I mean, Lindsey approaches it more as finding happiness after pain, so he's never going back to that pain, due to having gotten over it and it's rather a happy tune, when he does it that way.
Others interpret it more as abandoning love altogether and never getting close enough to anyone to experience pain again. So, it's not a song about hurting, but it's a song about alienation and I found the distance and disenchantment that Matchbox 20 put on their spin to be very exciting to hear. A new approach to something that was so familiar to me.
Stevie's interpretation of the song is amusing and flattering to herself, but the person he is asking to come down and see him again is not the person that burned him in the first place, to my way of thinking.
Michele
Bandon
02-04-2013, 03:25 PM
OMG..Don't Stop not a FM sounding song? LOL :shrug:
Sleepless-Child
02-04-2013, 03:28 PM
I don't think the song is about anger, but I agree that the way he is performing it is dull and stupid. I don't even know what his deal is. I mean why does he think that sounds good? Because the audience "ooohs" during those long pauses? Insane.
He's done it much better in the the older tours. As far as his interpretation, I think it's good and can be playful and frisky with the right tempo, but I remember when I heard Matchbox Twenty's I found it to be a revelation. I mean, Lindsey approaches it more as finding happiness after pain, so he's never going back to that pain, due to having gotten over it and it's rather a happy tune, when he does it that way.
Others interpret it more as abandoning love altogether and never getting close enough to anyone to experience pain again. So, it's not a song about hurting, but it's a song about alienation and I found the distance and disenchantment that Matchbox 20 put on their spin to be very exciting to hear. A new approach to something that was so familiar to me.
Stevie's interpretation of the song is amusing and flattering to herself, but the person he is asking to come down and see him again is not the person that burned him in the first place, to my way of thinking.
Michele
Wow i need to hear Matchbox 20's version, apparently! I agree with your interpretation, actually. I still think there is anger, there, but i might be wrong. "Alienation" must be the best way to describe it.
I want them to bring back the full-band version (with Stevie). It was upbeat during the SYW tour.
Why didn't people who saw Lindsey (Elle,etc.) tell him he was destroying the song? :D
EDIT : Michelle, the alienation thing has just completely changed the way i understand NGBA. I never thought never going back again would be a bad thing, for some reason.
estranged4life
02-04-2013, 03:29 PM
Probably going to upset some, but I want to hear them retire - that is what I want to hear at this point :rolleyes:
Sleepless-Child
02-04-2013, 03:30 PM
OMG..Don't Stop not a FM sounding song? LOL :shrug:
Yes, seriously. Cheesy, but FM sounding. There are other cheesy FM songs that unfortunately fit perfectly in their repertoire
michelej1
02-04-2013, 03:39 PM
Wow i need to hear Matchbox 20's version, apparently!
It was on this tribute album.
http://www.amazon.com/Legacy-Tribute-Fleetwood-Macs-Rumours/dp/B000006E4O/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1360010177&sr=1-1&keywords=rumours+tribute
When it came out, I think I was in a minority on liking the version of NGBA, so it might not appeal to you. I guess it depends on whether you like Matchbox 20. I do and am kind of a sucker for Rob Thomas, so that may have colored my opinion.
Michele
WildHearted
02-04-2013, 03:41 PM
Stevie's interpretation of the song is amusing and flattering to herself, but the person he is asking to come down and see him again is not the person that burned him in the first place, to my way of thinking.
Michele
Exactly. The song is only half about Stevie. And not the good half. :lol: Stevie's the "where I've been."
At least, regarding when it was initially written. Who knows what all of their songs mean to them today.
Bandon
02-04-2013, 03:41 PM
Yes, seriously. Cheesy, but FM sounding. There are other cheesy FM songs that unfortunately fit perfectly in their repertoire
Call it "cheesy" or FM's most sugary "pop" song. I remember by the end of the summer of 1977, I was sick of this song. Every time I turned on the radio it was there. But taking into account their history, it is still FM sounding. :nod:
sodascouts
02-04-2013, 04:02 PM
Dang, I'm surprised so many people are down on "Don't Stop" - it always makes me smile. I love it.
However, let me join in with those heaping scorn on Lindsey's awful arrangement of "Never Going Back Again." People hear the opening notes and get excited thinking they're in for a treat, only to be disappointed once they realize Lindsey is going at the pace of someone who's forgotten how to play the song, and that he's using the kind of breathy vocals indicative of someone who no longer has the chops to sing it full voice. BTW, I don't give a flip if he has enough breath control to hold a note, I want to hear the song and the attempt at showboating detracts from it. I speculate that he thinks if he does it all breathy and slow that when he finally does sing it with passion at the end, it has more power. However, making 4/5 of the song suck in order to give 1/5 of it more impact seems a sorry trade-off to me.
I also agree "Stand Back" should be traded in for an upbeat Mac song like "Angel."
Along those lines, no IYD or UTS/GOS/SWS material, please. It would be jarring and self-indulgent of Stevie and Lindsey respectively, IMHO.
WildHearted
02-04-2013, 04:08 PM
Along those lines, no IYD or UTS/GOS/SWS material, please. It would be jarring and self-indulgent of Stevie and Lindsey respectively, IMHO.
Though I loved all of those albums, I agree. They've already toured to support them plenty. Let us hear Fleetwood Mac songs.
I doubt if anyone in the audience would be disappointed if we didn't hear Secret Love or End of Time.
Not that those songs are bad.. but that's not what people are coming to a Fleetwood Mac concert to see. I'd rather hear more obscure or less played FM songs. There are plenty of them to choose from, there's no shortage of material there.
Bandon
02-04-2013, 04:11 PM
Dang, I'm surprised so many people are down on "Don't Stop" - it always makes me smile. I love it.
However, let me join in with those heaping scorn on Lindsey's awful arrangement of "Never Going Back Again." People hear the opening notes and get excited thinking they're in for a treat, only to be disappointed once they realize Lindsey is going at the pace of someone who's forgotten how to play the song, and that he's using the kind of breathy vocals indicative of someone who no longer has the chops to sing it full voice. BTW, I don't give a flip if he has enough breath control to hold a note, I want to hear the song and the attempt at showboating detracts from it. I speculate that he thinks if he does it all breathy and slow that when he finally does sing it with passion at the end, it has more power. However, making 4/5 of the song suck in order to give 1/5 of it more impact seems a sorry trade-off to me.
I also agree "Stand Back" should be traded in for an upbeat Mac song like "Angel."
Along those lines, no IYD or UTS/GOS/SWS material, please. It would be jarring and self-indulgent of Stevie and Lindsey respectively, IMHO.
Don't get me wrong..I was sick of it in 1977, but would love to hear it live now, especially with Chris singing on it. I love their sugary pop stuff (i.e., Little Lies, You Make Loving Fun, etc.). You Make Loving Fun is my favorite track on Rumours besides Go Your Own Way.
michelej1
02-04-2013, 04:24 PM
Though I loved all of those albums, I agree. They've already toured to support them plenty. Let us hear Fleetwood Mac songs.
I doubt if anyone in the audience would be disappointed if we didn't hear Secret Love or End of Time.
Not that those songs are bad.. but that's not what people are coming to a Fleetwood Mac concert to see. I'd rather hear more obscure or less played FM songs. There are plenty of them to choose from, there's no shortage of material there.
Right, some people who go to the concert are not FM fans, but most people who will be there are. The band shouldn't create a setlist that caters to people who aren't into Fleetwood Mac. They'll get their solo shows later.
I want the music these people made together. And I consider the songs band songs. Stevie is one of the better parts of Over My Head. Lindsey shines through Hold Me. Christine made the ISA verses beautiful when she was there. The five rose to such heights because of their integration. I don't separate these people from each other within Fleetwood Mac and the best tours won't do that either. I'm not going "his" and "hers", when Lindsey's guitar on YMLF or Gypsy is better than his guitar parts on most of his own songs. I want the concert to celebrate what belongs to all of them.
Michele
Sleepless-Child
02-04-2013, 04:26 PM
It was on this tribute album.
http://www.amazon.com/Legacy-Tribute-Fleetwood-Macs-Rumours/dp/B000006E4O/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1360010177&sr=1-1&keywords=rumours+tribute
When it came out, I think I was in a minority on liking the version of NGBA, so it might not appeal to you. I guess it depends on whether you like Matchbox 20. I do and am kind of a sucker for Rob Thomas, so that may have colored my opinion.
Michele
Well, he's hot ? That's all i have to say about him :).
Wow their version wasn't what i expected at all. I like the outro, with "The Chain", but i dislike the fact that they kept the guitar riff while completely changing the key (?) and everything else. It is so so different that it could have been an other song (that doesn't make sense). I really don't like his singing though.so mannered.
Call it "cheesy" or FM's most sugary "pop" song. I remember by the end of the summer of 1977, I was sick of this song. Every time I turned on the radio it was there. But taking into account their history, it is still FM sounding. :nod:
huh? have you heard some of Christine's other songs? :shrug:
I added realistically because this isn't a thread for songs were most sick of. I know 90 percent of us would like for them to not play Dreams, but that's not realalistic. I do sort of agree with the band that there are certain songs they shouldn't exclude, but I disagree with how long their Must Do list actually is. I will be very upset to see any of these songs in th 2013 set:
1. Monday Morning
2. Stand Back
3. Never Going Back Again
4. Gypsy or Sara
5. World Turning
6. Silver Springs
7. Say you love me
8. I don't want to know
nice iteration on our ongoing discussions here! :thumbsup:
i agree with most of your list, except Silver Springs. i've never heard Mac live yet and would love to hear Silver Springs at least once.
i don't understand while people keep bringing up MM for this tour. they did it last tour, it's a nice song, but time for a change again, i agree.
Stand Back - time to replace it with another rocking solo song of Stevie's. or like someone said, they can rock GDW like FFs did, and pick a different solo song of hers. if she needs a fast song, she can also use Ghosts Are Gone or EFO from SYW.
i agree that slowed down version of NGBA is not a very attractive song, and it was (besides Trouble) the only song i wasn't perfectly happy about during OMS tour last year and could do without. but you said realistically, and Lindsey has brought up several times already that it's a must do song. so no matter what we think it will stay. hope he speeds it up some more (he did already on OMS from SWS snail speed, but it needs more). and general audiences recognize this song and always react positively to it. :shrug:
yes to getting rid of Gypsy and Sara - please please please bring in Angel and SOTM instead. or Destiny Rules.
i love World Turning, it's a great song, but Mick's solo kills it and takes up way too much time.what is it like 10 mins drum solo? i never made it through it on LiB without fastforwarding. he can show off his drum skills, but doesn't really need 10 mins, bunch of those mumbling incoherently.
agree on SYLM.
Go Insane should definitely go, however much i love it. it needs to be replaced by a rocking Lindsey solo song from SWS.
but realistically, of Christine's songs, Don't Stop is a must do. Don't Stop, Landslide and GYOW are probably the only FM songs everybody knows. realistically, those 3 are probably their only must dos.:shrug: for comparison, i saw Dylan recently, the only 2 widely known songs he did was Like A Rolling Stone and All Along The Watchtower. of course, even those 2 were barely recognizable considering his current limitations :p ;). (and yes, i know that unlike FM, Dylan puts on a crappy show in general opinion, but i'm just talking about the setlist.)
so now when i switched to must dos - instead of 12 songs they are saying are must dos, there are actually 3 that i listed above.
well those 3 and The Chain.
other than those 4, Lindsey will never drop Big Love and I'm So Afraid, and he never fails to deliver on either of these 2, so these 2 will have to be added to must dos.
Stevie will never drop Dreams and Rhiannon, so these 2 will have to be added to must dos.
so that's 8.
i would love to hear Second Hand News, just b/c i love the song, the same with Gold Dust Woman.
so that's 10.
i would be shocked if they dropped Tusk.
so that's 11.
i just went back to those top 10 most downloaded songs -
1 GO YOUR OWN WAY
2 THE CHAIN
3 EVERYWHERE
4 LITTLE LIES
5 DREAMS
6 ALBATROSS
7 LANDSLIDE
8 DON'T STOP
9 BIG LOVE
10 SONGBIRD
i bolded all non-Christine songs plus Don't Stop. so we are covered. in the worst case scenario 11 is a must do, that's it!
now we have a space for 13 more songs if they want to stick to 24!!
Bandon
02-04-2013, 05:19 PM
huh? have you heard some of Christine's other songs? :shrug:
Read my next post, sweetie.:nod:
I'msoAfraid95
02-04-2013, 05:19 PM
I'd like to hear Lindsey do Street of Dreams(out of his solo stuff cause its my favorite song of his solo stuff :D
Has he done it live since "92?
Read my next post, sweetie.:nod:
your follow-up post didn't seem to refute that you think Don't Stop is Mac's most sugary song, darling ;)
you just said you like it as well as other sugary stuff. :shrug:
Bandon
02-04-2013, 05:25 PM
your follow-up post didn't seem to refute that you think Don't Stop is Mac's most sugary song, darling ;)
you just said you like it as well as other sugary stuff. :shrug:
Okay, I'll give you that one, suga plum :cool:
I'd like to hear Lindsey do Street of Dreams(out of his solo stuff cause its my favorite song of his solo stuff :D
Has he done it live since "92?
see, there's a problem with Lindsey doing any solo song that doesn't require a backing band, and this is why:
it seems that success and ease of OMS tour last year might spur on similar completely solo tours by LB in the future. if so, this would mean songs which need a band and would be incomplete with just a backing track may need to be done with FM. on a completely solo LB tour, some rocking songs like ISA and Come work perfectly with just backing tracks, others like GYOW work just partially.
soooooo... i really hope LB chooses one of his rocking solo songs that need a band participation to perform during the FM tour. because i wanna hear them! :)
WildHearted
02-04-2013, 05:38 PM
Don't Stop, Landslide and GYOW are probably the only FM songs everybody knows. realistically, those 3 are probably their only must dos.
I agree about Don't Stop being a must do (unfortunately)
However, I don't agree that those are the only FM songs everybody knows. I think Rhiannon is definitely another must-do (even though it's not what it once was live).
Then there's Sara, Gypsy, Say You Love Me, Over My Head, Dreams, etc which MOST everyone knows, if not everyone.
That said.. they don't have to play ALL of their must-dos. They just have to play enough of them so that the whole audience isn't booing them offstage. :lol:
Stevie played the first show of the IYD tour without Landslide if I recall correctly, and as far as I know, no tomatoes were thrown.
michelej1
02-04-2013, 05:44 PM
I agree about Don't Stop being a must do (unfortunately)
However, I don't agree that those are the only FM songs everybody knows. I think Rhiannon is definitely another must-do (even though it's not what it once was live).
Then there's Sara, Gypsy, Say You Love Me, Over My Head, Dreams, etc which MOST everyone knows, if not everyone.
Everyone knows Rhiannon and Dreams. You can't drag a slug in from off the street who doesn't know Dreams.
The Mac likes to do three hot songs in a row. Tusk, Stand Back and GYOW have been the trilogy.
In order to replace Stand Back (which they won't, but just for conjecture's sake), we'd have to have another Stevie song that will keep people on their feet and fit in between Tusk and GYOW. I'd like SOTM to be that song, but I think it kind of starts off quiet and then builds to a burn. I think the early quiet may pour water on some of the momentum left over from Tusk. So, you have to find a song that is fast and hard from beginning to end. I think EFO could be that song. Its draw back is that no one knows it. Too bad it did not come out earlier in all of our lives and have a great video to boost its popularity.
Michele
I agree about Don't Stop being a must do (unfortunately)
However, I don't agree that those are the only FM songs everybody knows. I think Rhiannon is definitely another must-do (even though it's not what it once was live).
Then there's Sara, Gypsy, Say You Love Me, Over My Head, Dreams, etc which MOST everyone knows, if not everyone.
well, i may have been living under a rock (or in Europe? :shrug:) most of my life, but before i started looking up LB, i did not know Rhiannon, Sara, or Gypsy. SYLM and OMH are Christine's songs so we don't have to worry about them.
i did hear "Thunder only happens" before, so yeah about Dreams :D
my kids do know GYOW and Don't Stop i'm pretty sure, from tv and video games. probably Landslide, especially after superbawl. ;) don't know if they'd know any other Mac songs.
EDIT: my kids also know EO17. it's been playing on my daughter's pop radio. she thinks it's a new song.
Stevie played the first show of the IYD tour without Landslide if I recall correctly, and as far as I know, no tomatoes were thrown.
yup if we are talking solo. and Lindsey NEVER plays Holiday Road on his solo tours anymore, and it's his most downloaded and most known solo song. you always see people going to see LB solo and expecting that song. no tomatoes there either.
i don't think that anybody could casually walk into a FM show and not expect Landslide though. :shrug:
i do agree that it's hard for the ultrafans to get some distance from all we know... i often use as example my kids, but realistically by now, my son has been to 2 LB solo shows and he does recognize most of the songs he heard there.
Sleepless-Child
02-04-2013, 06:55 PM
You know what would be the must-dos in Europe?
Go your own way, Dreams, Don't Stop, Little lies, Everywhere, Big Love, Oh Diane, Hold me, Family man and if we're talking solo then Rooms on fire and Talk to me.
Thank God they are not making the setlist according to the location.
You know what would be the must-dos in Europe?
Go your own way, Dreams, Don't Stop, Little lies, Everywhere, Big Love, Oh Diane, Hold me, Family man and if we're talking solo then Rooms on fire and Talk to me.
Thank God they are not making the setlist according to the location.
lol, yeah. thanks for that list too!
actually, they should be able to change up their setlist according to the location, but unfortunately we know that once decided their setlist seems to be set in stone for the tour. :shrug: but i'm definitely glad i don't have to hear family man or diane.
and, tweet just now -
@TheAntonioBlack
If i see fleetwood mac Live, and lindsey buckingham does not play big love, i'll punch him.
guess we can add this violent option to the ones of deportation or walking out or mean shirt or holding the sign? ;) :shrug:
michelej1
02-04-2013, 07:02 PM
I would never want to cause Lindsey physical harm, but I would not be opposed to bopping him lightly with something soft and cushiony.
Michele
I would never want to cause Lindsey physical harm, but I would not be opposed to bopping him lightly with something soft and cushiony.
Michele
yup, definitely not on the list of our options. we'd probably instinctively jump to defend him if someone tried to punch him. but since it was brought up in a public setting, i thought it should be added to the list as one of the options people listed. :shrug:
cantgoback
02-04-2013, 07:17 PM
"Sisters of the Moon" because nothing will compare to the Mirage Tour version and I think a new live version would be a let down.
I disagree, Stevie's voice has become more smokey over the years and I think that's a great match for that song.
I Could go without hearing Dreams honestly, I love the song to death but it's so overplayed and i've heard it so much the past few months that I wouldn't mind if they dropped it from the set (which they won't)
Only do SYLM if Chris is there as well as Don't Stop
Big Love- it's just not a favorite of mine
Gypsy, it's a great song but Sara is better
Silver Springs too, beautiful song but i could still go without hearing it
I wish they'd do Hypnotized from Mystery To Me but not have a particular lead singer on that song, i feel like if lindsey sang it too hard it would kill it a bit. Also Station Man from Kiln House, if you look up the live version from 1975 Stevie, Lindsey, and Chris combo of vocals we're perfect.
michelej1
02-04-2013, 07:55 PM
Funny thing is that Landslide has been out of the setlist before. Although, maybe it is impossible now after the Dixie Chicks and the Clydesdale.
Michele
WildHearted
02-04-2013, 08:03 PM
yup if we are talking solo. and Lindsey NEVER plays Holiday Road on his solo tours anymore, and it's his most downloaded and most known solo song. you always see people going to see LB solo and expecting that song. no tomatoes there either.
i don't think that anybody could casually walk into a FM show and not expect Landslide though. :shrug:
i do agree that it's hard for the ultrafans to get some distance from all we know... i often use as example my kids, but realistically by now, my son has been to 2 LB solo shows and he does recognize most of the songs he heard there.
Well, I actually haven't been a fan for that long, only a few years really. And also I have 0 real life friends who are fans of the band. It's easy for me to dissociate. I definitely was familiar with quite a few of their songs even though I didn't know who they were by and didn't actively listen to them or anything.
But for an example, I played Rumours and Fleetwood Mac in their entirety in the living room @ my house last semester, and my roommate was sitting in there doing homework and literally every other song she would recognize, start humming along, and say, "Wait, I didn't know they sang that." And this was coming from Katy Perry's #1 fan, if that tells you anything.
On the other side of the spectrum, my mother isn't a big music person at all (music "makes her nervous"), but she was a late-teenager at the height of FM's popularity, and she literally knows the words to every FM song that has ever gotten an ounce of radio play. Hold Me, Gypsy, Sara, Don't Stop, GYOW, SHN, GDW, The Chain, Rhiannon, Over My Head, Monday Morning, Say You Love Me, Landslide, anything you can think of. Although she constantly insists that it was another band who sang it :lol: (She was also convinced that Linda Ronstadt sang Stop Draggin' My Heart Around... :shrug:)
I think they have plenty of songs that are ingrained in the subconscious of the general public. I do not think they have to play every single one of those songs, though. Logically, I would say the only things they need to play are the hit singles. But I know I would be sad if they took Gold Dust Woman or I'm So Afraid out of the set so I see where this becomes a dillemna. It's almost a hindrance that they have so many songs that people might expect to hear - then it becomes an issue of who to disappoint.
Jondalar
02-04-2013, 08:05 PM
Sisters of the moon, trouble, That's alright, Beautiful child....
She was also convinced that Linda Ronstadt sang Stop Draggin' My Heart Around... :shrug:)
I think they have plenty of songs that are ingrained in the subconscious of the general public. I do not think they have to play every single one of those songs, though. Logically, I would say the only things they need to play are the hit singles. But I know I would be sad if they took Gold Dust Woman or I'm So Afraid out of the set so I see where this becomes a dillemna. It's almost a hindrance that they have so many songs that people might expect to hear - then it becomes an issue of who to disappoint.
that's exactly my point - so does Bruce, so does Dylan, so do Stones... and they either play longer shows to cover a lot of them (like Bruce and Stones) or they keep changing the set, or they don't cover them. of course Dylan is not selling on his own arenas FM are, or for that high of a price. :shrug:
lol re Stop Dragging My Heart - i did know that song forever, but i always thought it was a Tom Petty song only... never realized there was a woman singing it with him, or i guess i thought it was just some complete unknown.
michelej1
02-04-2013, 08:27 PM
I wish there was some way we could do a study and put a dollar sign on how many more tickets they could sale if they just changed up the setlist.
We have a lot of people who say they aren't going to see the show because it's the same old, same old. I don't really pay attention to them, because I partially think they wouldn't see it anyway, no matter what happened. They just like to pretend that they would change their minds and go, if martians visited or something.
Still, if the setlist changed how many people would go out of their way to see more than one show, in the hopes of being there on the night that something special happened?
I know in 2006 I saw as many shows as I could, but for the LB shows I could not attend, I'd be online every night of Lindsey's tour to see what people were going to say the encore was that night. I'd be sitting there just waiting for a post. One night they said Bwana and I just could not believe it. The occasional change ups made following along during the tour really exciting and created a lot of fan buzz and I think if FM did it that more focused fans would go out of their way to see more than one show.
Of course, they'd have to surprise us with songs that we like. No one wants to hear, "Get ready folks: tonight, we're going to play Sugar Daddy!"
Michele
I know in 2006 I saw as many shows as I could, but for the LB shows I could not attend, I'd be online every night of Lindsey's tour to see what people were going to say the encore was that night. I'd be sitting there just waiting for a post. One night they said Bwana and I just could not believe it. The occasional change ups made following along during the tour really exciting and created a lot of fan buzz and I think if FM did it that more focused fans would go out of their way to see more than one show.
nice! :thumbsup:
while for OMS tour if you went to several shows you had to try to be either loud or come up with various other ways to get him to add encores and it worked just occasionally (how many Rock Away Blinds did we have? i can count 6? and just 1 and 1/4 of Rodeo, and a verse of Walk a Thin Line). although it was extremely satisfying experience when it did work. :nod:
oh, and you all at first 2 shows got to hear a completely new and unexplained song.
WildHearted
02-04-2013, 08:47 PM
oh, and you all at first 2 shows got to hear a completely new and unexplained song.
Just when I'd forgotten about that...
:D
Blueletter18
02-04-2013, 09:05 PM
The only song I wish they would drop is Stand Back. I agree with a comment made a few weeks back about it sounding almost like a wall of sound. She shouts rather than sings and the words come out so fast that it's almost like she wants to get it over and done with. I have to admit that I just cringe during most of the performances because it sounds downright awful more times than not. I understand the song gets the energy going but if they insist on performing a solo song then do Rooms on Fire or Stop Dragging My Heart Around with Lindsey.
So yeah, Stand Back is going to signal a toilet break for me if they do it again this year.
Don't Stop is another track I wouldn't miss but that will never go. I've also never cared for Never Going Back Again.
Well that's a novel idea- don't know why they haven't done that before. That would actually be really sweet! I would also like to see ANGEL and some more SYW songs such as Thrown Down and Running Through the Garden.
Blueletter18
02-04-2013, 09:07 PM
Well, I actually haven't been a fan for that long, only a few years really. And also I have 0 real life friends who are fans of the band. It's easy for me to dissociate. I definitely was familiar with quite a few of their songs even though I didn't know who they were by and didn't actively listen to them or anything.
But for an example, I played Rumours and Fleetwood Mac in their entirety in the living room @ my house last semester, and my roommate was sitting in there doing homework and literally every other song she would recognize, start humming along, and say, "Wait, I didn't know they sang that." And this was coming from Katy Perry's #1 fan, if that tells you anything.
On the other side of the spectrum, my mother isn't a big music person at all (music "makes her nervous"), but she was a late-teenager at the height of FM's popularity, and she literally knows the words to every FM song that has ever gotten an ounce of radio play. Hold Me, Gypsy, Sara, Don't Stop, GYOW, SHN, GDW, The Chain, Rhiannon, Over My Head, Monday Morning, Say You Love Me, Landslide, anything you can think of. Although she constantly insists that it was another band who sang it :lol: (She was also convinced that Linda Ronstadt sang Stop Draggin' My Heart Around... :shrug:)
I think they have plenty of songs that are ingrained in the subconscious of the general public. I do not think they have to play every single one of those songs, though. Logically, I would say the only things they need to play are the hit singles. But I know I would be sad if they took Gold Dust Woman or I'm So Afraid out of the set so I see where this becomes a dillemna. It's almost a hindrance that they have so many songs that people might expect to hear - then it becomes an issue of who to disappoint.
Haha, your mom sounds hilarious! And I kind of wish Ronstadt had covered SDMHA...
HighPassion
02-04-2013, 09:21 PM
I would say drop Stand Back or Don't Stop; mostly because I feel like they need Christine there to sing it, and Stand Back I've never really cared for. Fleetwood Mac has so much in their back catalogue that they can do without any solo material (with the exception of maybe something special from IYD :D) and I do like that they include Go Insane actually, it's one of my favorite Lindsey songs. So maybe I'm Stevie-biased.
Villavic
02-04-2013, 09:32 PM
Yeah, Stevie really doesn't HAVE to play Stand Back. She has plenty of Fleetwood Mac "hits"... it's entirely unnecessary. ).
I don't know if they play Stand Back because is just Stevie who asks for it, or it's Mick and/or other members. It started in the Tango tour when Lindsey was not there. But then it was included even in the 1997 Reunion tour, with Go Insane too.
What's the story behind the solo songs in the past FM tours? Has anyone read more about it?
michelej1
02-04-2013, 09:40 PM
I don't know if they play Stand Back because is just Stevie who asks for it, or it's Mick and/or other members. It started in the Tango tour when Lindsey was not there. But then it was included even in the 1997 Reunion tour, with Go Insane too.
What's the story behind the solo songs in the past FM tours? Has anyone read more about it?
No, but in 1987 when they said they were going to do solo songs and Stevie said that Stand Back would be hers, the plan was also for Christine to do one as well. Christine thought she would do So Excited, because of Billy.
Michele
MikeInNV
02-04-2013, 10:57 PM
No, but in 1987 when they said they were going to do solo songs and Stevie said that Stand Back would be hers, the plan was also for Christine to do one as well. Christine thought she would do So Excited, because of Billy.
Michele
I remember a story about Mick being really impressed with the energy and feedback generated by Stand Back when he tagged along on part of the RAL tour, and that's why he wanted Fleetwood Mac to do it on their tour the following year.
vivfox
02-04-2013, 11:54 PM
Although I love the song Dreams, when it is performed live I basicly tune it out. It has become monotone to me. Why does it always have to be done in the beginning of the show? I would really appreciate it if they would do this near the end of the set or as an encore. Then it would sound surprisingly fresh to me again. The same goes with all their tired hits. If performed in a different part of the set than the way they have always been done, the whole thing would be most refreshing to my ears. I detest predictability.
WildHearted
02-05-2013, 12:02 AM
Although I love the song Dreams, when it is performed live I basicly tune it out. It has become monotone to me. Why does it always have to be done in the beginning of the show? I would really appreciate it if they would do this near the end of the set or as an encore. Then it would sound surprisingly fresh to me again. The same goes with all their tired hits. If performed in a different part of the set than the way they have always been done, the whole thing would be most refreshing to my ears. I detest predictability.
I'd like to see The Chain close the show. What a great way to end the night - "Chain, keep us together."
sodascouts
02-05-2013, 04:38 AM
I would be very disappointed if they ever dropped ISA. As I've said before, I am absolutely blown away by that song live, but it needs more than a prerecorded drum track ala OMS to have maximum power. I'm really looking forward to experiencing it in all its glory at an FM show where the vocal, guitar and drums work together to create one of the band's most intense show stoppers.
redtulip
02-05-2013, 11:27 AM
I would be very disappointed if they ever dropped ISA. As I've said before, I am absolutely blown away by that song live, but it needs more than a prerecorded drum track ala OMS to have maximum power. I'm really looking forward to experiencing it in all its glory at an FM show where the vocal, guitar and drums work together to create one of the band's most intense show stoppers.
I have to disagree there. ISA has never been one of my favorites, but the OMS version really grabbed me and now I can't imagine it will a full band again.
McTrouble
02-05-2013, 11:46 AM
I would be very disappointed if they ever dropped ISA. As I've said before, I am absolutely blown away by that song live, but it needs more than a prerecorded drum track ala OMS to have maximum power. I'm really looking forward to experiencing it in all its glory at an FM show where the vocal, guitar and drums work together to create one of the band's most intense show stoppers.
What redtulip just said - I also think the OMS version of ISA was just THE best ever!!! :xoxo:
It made me LOVE a song that previously I could just take or leave!
It will sound not so good again now in FM setlist :distress:
sodascouts
02-05-2013, 01:26 PM
Well, to each his/her own but I have to say I'm surprised at preferences for the pre-recorded drum track which, to me, sounds like a drum machine. I've always considered a vibrant drum part played with passion (read: live and in the moment) to be integral to the song.
michelej1
02-05-2013, 01:32 PM
Well, to each his/her own but I have to say I'm surprised at preferences for the pre-recorded drum track which, to me, sounds like a drum machine. I've always considered a vibrant drum part played with passion (read: live and in the moment) to be integral to the song.
I agree, ISA was a shell of its former self. I was very disappointed. Michele
WildHearted
02-05-2013, 01:44 PM
I agree, ISA was a shell of its former self. I was very disappointed. Michele
Same for me. Actually, that goes for all of the electric songs he did.
My stepdad commented as we were leaving, "you know, go your own way was great, but the lack of Stevie's harmony on it was noticeable. It wasn't the same."
I didn't say anything, but I really don't think it was the lack of harmony that was the Missing piece. :lol: It was the lack of live instrumentation.
i can see both sides of ISA argument. it's a great song and was a showstopper in both cases at every show i've been at, with or without the backing band.
so i think it's a matter of personal preference and which arrangement hits you personally in the gut or you connect with. for me, it was a completely solo version with backing track. here is the version from one of the shows i was at -
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i would also not put all rocking / electric songs in the same bucket: while it would be hard to argue that GYOW doesn't miss the band when performed with just a backing track, i suggest it's equally hard to argue against Come versions from OMS tour, which done completely solo with that minimal backing track, were some of the best versions of Come he ever performed.
redtulip
02-05-2013, 02:35 PM
Well, to each his/her own but I have to say I'm surprised at preferences for the pre-recorded drum track which, to me, sounds like a drum machine. I've always considered a vibrant drum part played with passion (read: live and in the moment) to be integral to the song.
I just listened to the OMS version to see if I could articulate what it is I like about that version better than with the band. First, I don't think there is any drum in the backing track. I think there is a click track and maybe bass guitar? But I don't hear any drums. Part of what I liked best about the OMS version is the backing track, but it's more so in person than on the album. I remember really feeling the bass from the backing track and it helped me to feel the song more. And without the backing vocals and drums and everything, I think the guitar work stood out that much more and it conveyed more emotion for me.
Which is not to say it's bad with the band, I just get a lot more enjoyment out of the OMS version, especially live.
ETA: I feel the same about OMS Come, never really got into it before whether live or on SYW, but I adore it on OMS. And I think it's because it's so stripped down the guitar really stands out.
JohnL
02-05-2013, 03:14 PM
I would love to see them do a kicking version of both Seven Wonders and Big Love with full band. They could def pull this off.
As far as songs to kick off the set list, please get rid of So Afraid. I am so tired of it. Lets keep Lindsey to 2 long guitar solos this tour.
I would love to see them do a kicking version of both Seven Wonders and Big Love with full band. They could def pull this off.
As far as songs to kick off the set list, please get rid of So Afraid. I am so tired of it. Lets keep Lindsey to 2 long guitar solos this tour.
check the must-do songd threas: ISA is not going anywhere, and it shouldn't. same with acoustic BL.
re 7W, i'm continually surprised that people want to use 1 of only maybe 2-3 choices for a SN deep cut on a song written by someone else, but we all have different wishes and tastes. :shrug:
McTrouble
02-05-2013, 04:11 PM
I just listened to the OMS version to see if I could articulate what it is I like about that version better than with the band. First, I don't think there is any drum in the backing track. I think there is a click track and maybe bass guitar? But I don't hear any drums. Part of what I liked best about the OMS version is the backing track, but it's more so in person than on the album. I remember really feeling the bass from the backing track and it helped me to feel the song more. And without the backing vocals and drums and everything, I think the guitar work stood out that much more and it conveyed more emotion for me.
Which is not to say it's bad with the band, I just get a lot more enjoyment out of the OMS version, especially live.
ETA: I feel the same about OMS Come, never really got into it before whether live or on SYW, but I adore it on OMS. And I think it's because it's so stripped down the guitar really stands out.
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WildHearted
02-05-2013, 04:25 PM
check the must-do songd threas: ISA is not going anywhere, and it shouldn't. same with acoustic BL.
re 7W, i'm continually surprised that people want to use 1 of only maybe 2-3 choices for a SN deep cut on a song written by someone else, but we all have different wishes and tastes. :shrug:
It's still a good song, and it's still a FM song, regardless of who it was written by.
I enjoy Blue Letter regardless of the fact that it wasn't written by anyone in FM. :shrug:
i would also not put all rocking / electric songs in the same bucket: while it would be hard to argue that GYOW doesn't miss the band when performed with just a backing track, i suggest it's equally hard to argue against Come versions from OMS tour, which done completely solo with that minimal backing track, were some of the best versions of Come he ever performed.
Well, like you said... to each their own. I didn't enjoy any of those versions as much as I have enjoyed past versions with a full backing band, which is why I lumped them together. Lindsey played them amazingly - it had nothing to do with him - they just all sound better to me with a more fleshed out arrangement. There are things about the songs OTHER than Lindsey's playing that I enjoy a lot - the drums on Come, for instance - that I really missed when they were done with just the click/bass/whatever else. I felt it took away from the songs. Not to say I didn't enjoy it at all, because I did.. just not as much.
sodascouts
02-05-2013, 05:27 PM
First, I don't think there is any drum in the backing track. I think there is a click track and maybe bass guitar? But I don't hear any drums.
I'm not sure what differentiates a "click track" from a drum machine-type backing track - that's my unfamiliarity with the proper terminology showing.
I can see why you would like it better without the drums or other instrumentation if you consider those a distraction from Lindsey. I feel the other instruments enhance rather than detract from the song but it's all a matter of opinion.
redtulip
02-05-2013, 05:32 PM
I'm not sure what differentiates a "click track" from a drum machine-type backing track - that's my unfamiliarity with the proper terminology showing.
I can see why you would like it better without the drums or other instrumentation if you consider those a distraction from Lindsey. I feel the other instruments enhance rather than detract from the song but it's all a matter of opinion.
I'm not completely sure about that either, but I think a click track is used in recording just to keep everyone on beat, I don't think it's necessarily part of the drum machine. I may be wrong though.
I'm not completely sure about that either, but I think a click track is used in recording just to keep everyone on beat, I don't think it's necessarily part of the drum machine. I may be wrong though.
yeah it's also called metronome. has nothing to do with drums.
WildHearted
02-05-2013, 05:41 PM
I'm not completely sure about that either, but I think a click track is used in recording just to keep everyone on beat, I don't think it's necessarily part of the drum machine. I may be wrong though.
You're not wrong, but usually if musicians are using click-tracks.. it's being fed to them through their in-ear monitors, and not through the PA system for the audience to hear.
By virtue of being combined with bass/keys or whatever else he added onto the click-track and then being sent through the sound system of the theater, it kind of became less of a click track and more into a backing track in which the 'clicks' are the percussion which substitutes for the drums.
windbecame
02-05-2013, 06:05 PM
I don't understand the debate about Seven Wonders? Somewhere in a thread is the info from someone who worked at Modern who said the song was originally called Aaron (what she's speaking in the breaks, not Tara, Sara...) and that Stevie changed so many of the words that Sandy Stewart was not happy. So basically, she wrote most of the lyrics?? I see it as no different than her co-write on other songs... and no... she didn't just add the word Emmiline to the song??? I don't know where on earth that RUMOUR came from...and I really doubt that if that was the case she'd get any credit for the song at all??? :shrug: :angel:
I'msoAfraid95
02-05-2013, 06:10 PM
I'm sick of You Make Loving Fun. My local radio station plays it too much! ai hope that they don't attempt it this tour w/out Christine.
WatchChain
02-06-2013, 08:46 PM
Many songs need to be dropped from the somewhat tired set list.
"Stand Back", "Go Insane"....these are not the best of Stevie'Lindsey solo catalog....If they want to dig into that bag, there are better solo songs that can be done.
"Say You Love Me"---Please don't "attempt" anymore Chris songs....I realize that you have to do Don't Stop to appease the dull crowd, but that's all I can handle. If you can't bring Chris back, leave her songs out of the set.
Leave "World Turning" in the set....Mick's drum solo is my chance to go to the restroom and refill my adult beverage. Just move it to the MIDDLE of the set so I have a short break. Mick LOVES to talk about Mick.
SONGS TO ADD: "Angel", "Sisters of the Moon", "Don't Let Me Down Again", "Frozen Love", "That's Alright", "The Ledge", "Blue Letter", "Thrown Down", "Steal Your Heart Away"
STEVIE---If you insist on adding "Soldier's Angel", I'm going to refill my beverage for a second time (I'll need it)......Honey, I love you to DEARLY, but when you start ranting about soldier's angels, desert angels, touched angels, street angels and docklands, I need to make a run to the restroom.......I love you, girl !!!!:shrug:
redbird
02-10-2013, 12:32 AM
"Stand Back" - Not nearly a favorite SN song. I'd rather "SOTM", "Straight Back", "Everybody Finds Out", "Running Through the Garden", or unrealistically the earlier version of "Smile At You".
"Don't Stop" - I wouldn't mind if they picked another Christine song to attempt ("Why" would be my dream, or "Think About Me" or ... "You Make Loving Fun"?? That was always my favorite Christine song from Rumours), or cut her songs unless she makes an appearance.
"Crystal" - Pretty but it shares common ground with "Without You".
"Say You Will", "What's the World Coming To", "Steal Your Heart Away", "Goodbye Baby", "Come", "Silver Girl", "Family Man", "Isn't It Midnight", "Save Me a Place" - Couldn't get into them enough.
"Go Insane", "Bleed to Love Her", "Monday Morning", "Seven Wonders", "Gypsy", "Sara", "Eyes of the World", "I Know I'm Not Wrong", "That's Enough For Me" - I like them, but I can survive on Youtube if it means other rarities.
If I go to a show it'll be my first, so unlike you all I'm not yet sick of a lot of the staples.
FierySequences
02-10-2013, 03:54 AM
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[B]If I go to a show it'll be my first, so unlike you all I'm not yet sick of a lot of the staples.
Go!!! the price of admission is well worth it to hear the greatest band on the planet live. You will Not be disapointed.
the sum is greater than the parts ;)
redbird
02-11-2013, 12:17 PM
Thanks, I'm definitely working on it :)
gypsy-sara
03-06-2013, 04:25 AM
I want them to drop:
Stand Back
Say You Love Me
Rhiannon
Go Insane
Oh Well
Go Your Own Way
What I would love to hear instead:
Isn't It Midnight
Tango In The Night
When I See You Again
Seven Wonders
Hypnotized
Gold
(and yes, I do know that there's no solo song from Lindsey left now...)
redtulip
03-06-2013, 10:53 AM
Realistically, they will never drop GYOW. It was one of their biggest hits and completely a must play song for them.
gypsy-sara
03-06-2013, 11:40 AM
Realistically, they will never drop GYOW. It was one of their biggest hits and completely a must play song for them.
You're right, I kind of missed the demand for a "realistic" choice.
I like "Go Your Own Way", but I would prefer to hear other songs. ;)
Realistically, they will never drop GYOW. It was one of their biggest hits and completely a must play song for them.
sadly, realistically they will never drop Rhiannon either.
GYOW is still great and a big party in concert, considering guitar solos are what dominate that song. also, maybe it's just me, but i like to strum Lindsey's guitar. :D
Rhiannon is just a shadow of it's former self. :shrug:
redtulip
03-06-2013, 12:36 PM
sadly, realistically they will never drop Rhiannon either.
GYOW is still great and a big party in concert, considering guitar solos are what dominate that song. also, maybe it's just me, but i like to strum Lindsey's guitar. :D
Rhiannon is just a shadow of it's former self. :shrug:
Definitely not just you :D
I agree on Rhiannon. I know Stevie's voice isn't what it used to be, but I still think they could do a much better job with the song now than they have been.
chiliD
03-06-2013, 01:37 PM
I want them to drop:
Oh Well
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That's f-ing sacrilege & heresy right there. :mad:
gypsy-sara
03-06-2013, 02:06 PM
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That's f-ing sacrilege & heresy right there. :mad:
No, it's just my opinion.
And in fact I like the song. But as it is none of my absolute favourites and they are probably only playing 22-24 songs, I would love to hear something different.
If they are going to play some pre-BN songs (and I hope they will!) I would rather like to hear "Man Of The World", "Woman Of A Thousand Years" or "Hypnotized" than "Oh Well".
If they are going to play some pre-BN songs (and I hope they will!) I would rather like to hear "Man Of The World", "Woman Of A Thousand Years" or "Hypnotized" than "Oh Well".
since they insist on that stupid "only 22-24 songs" in the set (John Fogerty is older than all of them and he does anywhere between 26 and 29! and changes his sets from time to time during the same tour), i'd prefer they don't do any pre-BN era songs since there are so many BN ear songs, especially Lindsey's Tusk and SYW songs, that i would love to hear.
but if they do pre-BN FM song, my top choice by far would be Oh Well. we know that song is great live as done by LB-MF-JM (regardless of spitballs being thrown at LB by PG purists :p), and i wouldn't mind to experience it live at all.
Man of the World might be interesting... did BN-FM ever did that song live as far as we know?
i realize that doing a Welch song would be nice tribute, but i really don't care one bit to hear any of his songs by the current lineup, and that includes Hypnotized. :sorry:
Hawkeye
03-06-2013, 02:35 PM
since they insist on that stupid "only 22-24 songs" in the set (John Fogerty is older than all of them and he does anywhere between 26 and 29! and changes his sets from time to time during the same tour), i'd prefer they don't do any pre-BN era songs since there are so many BN ear songs, especially Lindsey's Tusk and SYW songs, that i would love to hear.
but if they do pre-BN FM song, my top choice by far would be Oh Well. we know that song is great live as done by LB-MF-JM (regardless of spitballs being thrown at LB by PG purists :p), and i wouldn't mind to experience it live at all.
Man of the World might be interesting... did BN-FM ever did that song live as far as we know?
i realize that doing a Welch song would be nice tribute, but i really don't care one bit to hear any of his songs by the current lineup, and that includes Hypnotized. :sorry:
His set is full of 2 and a half minute songs tho. Fleetwood Mac generally has about 10 "8+ minute" songs in their set so i gurantee a mac set is linger then a fogerty set. not knocking fogerty at all, just need to clear that up.
Hawkeye
03-06-2013, 02:36 PM
Definitely not just you :D
I agree on Rhiannon. I know Stevie's voice isn't what it used to be, but I still think they could do a much better job with the song now than they have been.
I really wish the sound city group would've played rhiannon. i feel like they would've propelled stevie so much on that song. It would've benefitted way more from the "foo factor" then even gold dust woman.
I really wish the sound city group would've played rhiannon. i feel like they would've propelled stevie so much on that song. It would've benefitted way more from the "foo factor" then even gold dust woman.
i don't mind Foos in general and SN obviously reveled in their adoration for her, but after everybody raving about how great their GDW version has been, i was very disappointed when i finally heard it. FM versions from European 2009 UL leg where much more interesting.
His set is full of 2 and a half minute songs tho. Fleetwood Mac generally has about 10 "8+ minute" songs in their set so i gurantee a mac set is linger then a fogerty set. not knocking fogerty at all, just need to clear that up.
good point, but you can't say that about all of his songs. and Stephanie, The Ledge, EOTW, or Illumination are also just about 2 mins.
ten 8+-minute songs?? i can't count that many - which ones are those?
i can think of ISA, GDW and WT of their regular songs... and i really hope they won't do WT this time around.
Hawkeye
03-06-2013, 02:55 PM
GDW
ISA
GYOW with intro and outro is about 8
WT 10 plus here
OK, maybe not that many 8+. If i had said 5+ it wouldbe been way more accurate and wouldve included half the set. , And they dont play any of their 2 minute songs you mentioned (The Ledge etc.) where as being the big CCR fan i am, nearly all their big hits (fortunute son, down on the corner, bad moon rising plus about 15 more) range from 2 to 3 minutes.
McTrouble
03-06-2013, 02:59 PM
since they insist on that stupid "only 22-24 songs" in the set (John Fogerty is older than all of them and he does anywhere between 26 and 29! and changes his sets from time to time during the same tour), i'd prefer they don't do any pre-BN era songs since there are so many BN ear songs, especially Lindsey's Tusk and SYW songs, that i would love to hear.
but if they do pre-BN FM song, my top choice by far would be Oh Well. we know that song is great live as done by LB-MF-JM (regardless of spitballs being thrown at LB by PG purists :p), and i wouldn't mind to experience it live at all.
Man of the World might be interesting... did BN-FM ever did that song live as far as we know?
i realize that doing a Welch song would be nice tribute, but i really don't care one bit to hear any of his songs by the current lineup, and that includes Hypnotized. :sorry:
I hope Oh Well is included again! Lindsey does the BEST Oh Well ever! :D
GDW
ISA
GYOW with intro and outro is about 8
WT 10 plus here
OK, maybe not that many 8+. If i had said 5+ it wouldbe been way more accurate and wouldve included half the set. , And they dont play any of their 2 minute songs you mentioned (The Ledge etc.) where as being the big CCR fan i am, nearly all their big hits (fortunute son, down on the corner, bad moon rising plus about 15 more) range from 2 to 3 minutes.
i know i know they don't but The Ledge is one of the top LB deep cut requests here, and considering he played Stephanie throughout last year, we may need to consider those 2 in that 22 songs count - and that really irks me, as you can sense.
you can argue that it may be harder to do 29 different 2-minute songs than just 22 songs no matter how long they are.
FM should do at least 26 songs on this upcoming tour, period. but they already went from mentioning 24 initially down to 22 now. :distress::mad::rolleyes:
Hawkeye
03-06-2013, 05:09 PM
when did they say 22. I'm sure we'll get 23-24 opening night and it'll maybe widdle down to 22.
when did they say 22. I'm sure we'll get 23-24 opening night and it'll maybe widdle down to 22.
i think SN said it in some most recent interview but i can't remember specifically where.
maybe she's just as bad with her math as usual though. ;)
jkmaletic
03-07-2013, 08:27 AM
Getting back to the topic, a song I'd want to (realistically) hear the least would be:
"BIG LOVE"
HejiraNYC
03-12-2013, 12:49 PM
FM should do at least 26 songs on this upcoming tour, period. but they already went from mentioning 24 initially down to 22 now. :distress::mad::rolleyes:
Yes... they might actually be able to fit in 26 songs if they cut out all of those excessively long guitar solos. I am 100% in support of that! But that will never happen because Stevie needs those long guitar solos to change outfits.
I would be the first to sign a petition for deleting "I'm So Afraid" from the setlist!
SpyNote
03-12-2013, 03:27 PM
i don't mind Foos in general and SN obviously reveled in their adoration for her, but after everybody raving about how great their GDW version has been, i was very disappointed when i finally heard it. FM versions from European 2009 UL leg where much more interesting.
Same here. GDW hasn't been strong since Stevie dropped the climactic "go hooooomeargggggggghhhhhahahhhhhahhhhh" and added all those silly and unnecessary lines at the end ("baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby," "you can't see me now"). Less is more.
pattyfan
03-12-2013, 03:56 PM
Don't kill me for saying this, but every time that Mick does his drum solo thing during World Turning, I think, man, if he just dropped that solo, we could have another song, and, even better, if they just dropped World Turning, we could have two or three more songs :)
I'd love for them to drop...
Dreams
Go Your Own Way
Stand Back
Rhiannon
Don't Stop
I'm So Afriad
as well.
I've heard all of those songs soooooo many times. If they even dropped two of them I'd be happy.
The Ledge would be awesome.
How about an acoustic That's Alright?
Or a full on rocker like Tango in the Night? :)
Maybe bring back Don't Let Me Down Again
or Angel...please please please....
Sigh.....
Kevin
redtulip
03-12-2013, 03:58 PM
Yes... they might actually be able to fit in 26 songs if they cut out all of those excessively long guitar solos. I am 100% in support of that! But that will never happen because Stevie needs those long guitar solos to change outfits.
I would be the first to sign a petition for deleting "I'm So Afraid" from the setlist!
Or that will never happen because the guitar solos are one of the best parts of the show. As far as I'm concerned, Stevie can leave the stage for costume changes during all of Lindsey's songs.
McTrouble
03-12-2013, 05:19 PM
Or that will never happen because the guitar solos are one of the best parts of the show. As far as I'm concerned, Stevie can leave the stage for costume changes during all of Lindsey's songs.
This! :xoxo:
In fact, Stevie can............... ;):p
SteveMacD
03-12-2013, 05:23 PM
For Stevie, there's not too much she hasn't done from the "Rumours" era. I'd love to hear "I Don't Want To Know" or "That's Alright". I'd really love to hear "Straight Back", but not without Christine. I guess "Welcome To The Room...Sara" would be okay, too.
Macfanforever
03-12-2013, 06:05 PM
If they take the solos away .Nobody wont get a chance to take a leak or get a snack or a beer.
I prefer if they shorten the solos down a tad .but that will never happen because fans love to see Lindsey,Mick or even Waddy jamming away.
At FM or Stevie shows I stay put if I don't have an emergencies .LOL.
redtulip
03-13-2013, 09:12 AM
If they take the solos away .Nobody wont get a chance to take a leak or get a snack or a beer.
I prefer if they shorten the solos down a tad .but that will never happen because fans love to see Lindsey,Mick or even Waddy jamming away.
At FM or Stevie shows I stay put if I don't have an emergencies .LOL.
Oh there are plenty of good times for that. Rhiannon, Landslide, Sara, Gypsy, Stand Back to name a few.
whitewingdove
03-29-2013, 11:08 PM
I am a pretty easily satisfied fan, i don't ask for much. But I would DIE to hear Thrown Down live. Just once, this one time!! I don't wanna hear any songs from White Album that are Lindsey's cept maybe I'm So Afraid, i could deal with that. Stevie doesn't need to do Stand Back like someone else mentioned before. But i DO need to hear Lindsey do Go Insane accoustic like The Dance. The accoustic is a million times better than original, it's probably one of my top 3 fav Lindsey songs! I'm getting pretty tired of hearing Don't Stop, it isn't the same without Chris :/ They don't really have to do Tusk either. It SUCKS without Chris on accordion or the marching band! I could live without Gypsy this one time. And Sara... it's not the same. And pleeeease... nothing from SWS or IYD!!!
Songs I simply NEED to hear:
Dreams, Landslide, Silver Springs, and Gold Dust Woman
Songs that would please me very much to be played live:
Thrown Down!!!
Angel
The Ledge
Not That Funny
Down Endless Street (nearly impossible, but wouldn't it be lovely?)
Smile At You
Oh Diane
Running Through The Garden
Seven Wonders
Straight Back (another hopeless dream)
~Very interested on seeing how SOTM turns out. Hoping for the best!
Nathan
04-02-2013, 07:29 PM
Blue Letter
Crystal
Angel
MikeInNV
04-02-2013, 08:42 PM
Blue Letter
Crystal
Angel
You probably don't have much to worry about. :D
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