What do you like/not like about the Rumours box set?

[PenguinHead]

I couldn't wait to order it online and receive it in the mail, so I went searching for a place to buy it. Not many choices here in Massachusetts. Target didn't have it. Best Buy didn't have it. I called Newbury Comics and they said they had only one, and the held it for me. I figured "wow, it must have flown off the shelves!" When I went to to store to pick it up, I asked the clerk about it. He said at the moment they only had one in stock! The list price was $100, but I only paid $80.

What I like about it:

It's a graphically well designed package
The live CD is very enjoyable
The Recording Sessions CD has some interesting material that isn't on the previous 2 disc Rumours release
The commentary by Lindsey and Stevie is surprisingly insightful and well written
Some great photos
Christine managed emerge briefly from the shadows and provide some fresh comments. "Of all the Fleetwood Mac albums. I always had a bit of a penchant for Mystery To Me. I loved a lot of Bob Welch's songs and thought we blended well together, but I'm afraid it's a distant third place to Rumours, with the white Fleetwood Mac album sitting in second place, which I also thought was great."

What I don't like about it:

The loose sleeve on the back of the package which lists the contents. What do you do with that? It's too large to be contained in the box itself.

The live CD is a collection from several different shows. But it's not a full show. Most conspicuously absent are Second Hand News and You Make Loving Fun. Considering the high price point, I wish they would have given us a download option to digitally acquire all three recorded show in their entirety.

The Rosebud film is great, but the resolution is still a bit fuzzy. But I can forgive that because it was probably the best they had. I always wondered the exact context for the film, but now I know; it was produced to promote their European tour.

[Villavic]

The Rosebud film is great, but the resolution is still a bit fuzzy.

What about its sound?

[PenguinHead]

What about its sound?

It's not exactly high fidelity - but it's acceptable.

[Macfanforever]

The price tag got to come down.They got high hopes to make a killing with those inflated prices.

[GarboSpeaks!]

^ couldn't agree more. I bought it for $99.99- but to have ordered it online, would have come to about the same, and you always take your chances when something ships-damage etc. Still I hate being a completist because that's just insane, $100! And damnit, if I and others didn't gobble it up for $100 they'd stop selling it for so high, so on behalf of my spending...I apologize. lol. Can't listen to it til after work tonight, but damn the packaging is really nice. I didn't remove the plastic all the way, just slit & cut the middle so my back piece is staying intact. I imagine it wouldn't fit into the box, and it kinda sux they didn't glue it on.

[Oooh Missionary]

I opted for the 3 disc version for now with the intention of picking up the super-deluxe somewhere down the line. THESE UNRELEASED DEMO RECORDINGS ARE FANTASTIC.

It's hard to justify the $70+ price difference for basically just the Rosebud DVD. I have the 2 disc reissue from 2004 and I have my first pressing vinyl for when I want to rev up the turntable.

Would love to see more of the booklet and inside packaging if anyone has any pictures or scans to share.

[Macfanforever]

I guess I have to break down and get a package.

The FM chain box set was $25.Stevie's Enchanted was $40 I think.

[KarmaContestant]

Just got home with mine.

Regarding the price - it's actually not bad, when compared to other box-set type releases that I've purchased. The packaging is nice, not cheap, and feels durable. I bought mine from an indie store, so it was a few bucks more than Amazon's price. I'm OK with the price.

My first impression is that it would be great to see all of the Rumours-lineup albums get this special treatment. :laugh: Yeah...right.

Second...the paper insert mentioned in the first post. Yeah...kind of annoying. I'll have to fold it...and that makes me cringe.

So far, having only slid the contents out of the box, I am very impressed.

[talazam]

What are you supposed to do if you want the 3 cds, the dvd and not the Vinyl LP?

[WildHearted]

What are you supposed to do if you want the 3 cds, the dvd and not the Vinyl LP?

Buy it and sell the vinyl afterward?

[bombaysaffires]

Christine managed emerge briefly from the shadows and provide some fresh comments. "Of all the Fleetwood Mac albums. I always had a bit of a penchant for Mystery To Me. I loved a lot of Bob Welch's songs and thought we blended well together, but I'm afraid it's a distant third place to Rumours, with the white Fleetwood Mac album sitting in second place, which I also thought was great."

Wait, this sounds like it's verbatim from that recent (UK?) article about the band/Chris in some magazine??

[michelej1]

Christine managed emerge briefly from the shadows and provide some fresh comments. "Of all the Fleetwood Mac albums. I always had a bit of a penchant for Mystery To Me. I loved a lot of Bob Welch's songs and thought we blended well together, but I'm afraid it's a distant third place to Rumours, with the white Fleetwood Mac album sitting in second place, which I also thought was great."

Wait, this sounds like it's verbatim from that recent (UK?) article about the band/Chris in some magazine??

Yep. Mojo.

Michele

[Macfanforever]

I probably have about 6 dozen plus copies of Rumours LP's here.I probably can wallpaper a room with them.

I wonder if those in the set are new reprints or they are from WB's warehouse that were stored in for the last 30 plus years.

[deribish]

I probably have about 6 dozen plus copies of Rumours LP's here.I probably can wallpaper a room with them.

I wonder if those in the set are new reprints or they are from WB's warehouse that were stored in for the last 30 plus years.

They arent old version found in some warehouse. They are new pressed vinyl, reformatted gatefold LPs with a 5 pocket CD/DVD inset-pocket inside and A gorgeous inset booklet. The LP is the cornerstone of the boxset... It's a lovely repackaging and its kinda beautiful.

[Macfanforever]

They arent old version found in some warehouse. They are new pressed vinyl, reformatted gatefold LPs with a 5 pocket CD/DVD inset-pocket inside and A gorgeous inset booklet. The LP is the cornerstone of the boxset... It's a lovely repackaging and its kinda beautiful.

Oh my gawd ,I got to get the set with the LP.Thanks for letting me know.

I'm glad they are still printing vinyl and they should dump cds altogether.

I love to hear IYD on vinyl.LOL.

[bombaysaffires]

Yep. Mojo.

Michele

bummer. would have been nice to get another little sliver of newness from her.

[GJK]

What I don't like about it:

The loose sleeve on the back of the package which lists the contents. What do you do with that? It's too large to be contained in the box itself.



I used my 'Roll Cat' paper cutter to remove a few millimeters from each side and now it fits perfectly in the box itself.

[Blueletter18]

Can anyone elaborate on the differences between this disc of outtakes and the last disc of outtakes from the Rumours re-release before this one? Are they worth buying another Rumours release for?

[Josh2003]

Can anyone elaborate on the differences between this disc of outtakes and the last disc of outtakes from the Rumours re-release before this one? Are they worth buying another Rumours release for?

Yes. Completely different tracks. I was a little disappointed with the outtakes we got in 2004, as they seemed to not be very different from the actual album cuts.

These new ones blow the previous release out of the water.

[chiliD]

I downloaded the iTunes version...the album itself sounds phenomenal on my iPod...the best sounding album I have on there. I haven't "A -B"'ed the outtakes vs the 2004 release to hear the differences.

Not counting the live tracks, the best "outtake" is the version of "Keep Me There" with the ending that they kept for "The Chain". Just sent chills down my spine.

Yeah, yeah, I know my credibility is going to take a hit for bad mouthing Rumours for the last 20 years and then THIS comes along. Sorry, I'm really happy that I sprung for my 6th copy of Rumours, it's still my least favorite Fleetwood Mac album, but I'm really glad they decided to release this set.

Bands ought to just dispense with the 35 year game playing and just release a "Super Deluxe Version" of EVERY album when they first release it. Then we don't have to keep buying new versions every 7-10 years.

I got the Deluxe version of Clapton's Slowhand, too...that's great as well!!! And, it ALSO came out in '77, so I'm in a whole retro mode musically the last few days...Pretty much just like in 1977...got Rumours & Slowhand almost at the same time, then, too! :)

[Josh2003]

Not counting the live tracks, the best "outtake" is the version of "Keep Me There" with the ending that they kept for "The Chain". Just sent chills down my spine.



Agreed...the 2004 release threw me quite a bit. They released "Butter Cookie (Keep Me There)" and it sounded NOTHING like "The Chain" (this, after years and years of how what we know as "The Chain" came from a track they called "Keep Me There"). Glad to have a sort of combined version of the two, and to finally hear what they'd been talking about all these years.

[mylittledemon]

Not counting the live tracks, the best "outtake" is the version of "Keep Me There" with the ending that they kept for "The Chain". Just sent chills down my spine.


Yeah the one with the vocal? That guitar solo at the end... phew... ex-a-lant!

[cantgoback]

I wish they had including Silver Springs on the Vinyl LP or at least as a 7" or something.

[skcin]

I downloaded the iTunes version...the album itself sounds phenomenal on my iPod...the best sounding album I have on there. I haven't "A -B"'ed the outtakes vs the 2004 release to hear the differences.

Not counting the live tracks, the best "outtake" is the version of "Keep Me There" with the ending that they kept for "The Chain". Just sent chills down my spine.

Yeah, yeah, I know my credibility is going to take a hit for bad mouthing Rumours for the last 20 years and then THIS comes along. Sorry, I'm really happy that I sprung for my 6th copy of Rumours, it's still my least favorite Fleetwood Mac album, but I'm really glad they decided to release this set.

Bands ought to just dispense with the 35 year game playing and just release a "Super Deluxe Version" of EVERY album when they first release it. Then we don't have to keep buying new versions every 7-10 years.

I got the Deluxe version of Clapton's Slowhand, too...that's great as well!!! And, it ALSO came out in '77, so I'm in a whole retro mode musically the last few days...Pretty much just like in 1977...got Rumours & Slowhand almost at the same time, then, too! :)


Wow. :shocked: Now that's really saying something.

I've been listening on Spotify. The disc of alternate takes is just incredible. NGBA as a duet? Dying over the harmony. Dreams is slightly haunting. Love it.

[Blueletter18]

Yes. Completely different tracks. I was a little disappointed with the outtakes we got in 2004, as they seemed to not be very different from the actual album cuts.

These new ones blow the previous release out of the water.

Thanks, that means I'll be buying the 3 cd version tomorrow!

[KarmaContestant]

After a few listens to the new disc of demos/outtakes, I've got some commentary. Largely, this disc is disappointing, in my opinion, when compared to the 2004 disc of outtakes.

Second Hand News: Hhmmnn hhmmnn. That's what it sounds like to me. I have to wonder, really, what the point was in including this track. *

Dreams-Take 2: Um....this really just sounds to me like an alternate, full version, with some of the instruments stripped out to make it sound like a demo. The vocal is nice, but...what else is there? *

Never Going Back Again-Duet: This is amazing! I have no complaints! *****

Go Your Own Way-Early Take: Admittedly, I'm a Stevie fan first and foremost. That said, it's interesting to hear Lindsey's song evolution, alternate lyrics, etc... ****

Songbird-Demo: As stripped down as this song is on the Rumours album, there's not really much to hear in this demo to provide a reference point for what might have been. ***

Songbird-Instrumental: I'm not a fan of instrumentals, in this context. Give me a full album of instrumentals and I'll happily listen to the entire thing, treating it as a separte entiry from the vocals. One song or two songs scattered though a compilation of vocal tracks isn't really a very compelling listening experience. That said, the piano is beautifully played. **

I Don't Want To Know: This track made me smile. Lindsey is eccentric. I wonder if it was considered as a Lindsey-only track at any point in time? ****

Keep Me There-Instrumental: If this weren't The Chain in another life, and if a version with vocals was not included, I'd find this track far more interesting than I do. The inclusion of a version with vocals renders this one redundant. *

The Chain-Demo: This track exemplifies the kind of material I'd expect to here on a disc of demos and outtakes. Lost verses, something that might have been, something that was sacrificed for the greater good. *****

Keep Me There-With Vocal: Another A+ track. More, please! This is the kind of stuff fanboys like myself love *****

Gold Dust Woman-Early Take: Meh. Some interesting sounds, I suppose. A sub-par vocal. I like the breath effects...but there's nothing here to bring me back. *

Oh Daddy-Early Take: Taken on it's own, and given the rarity of Christine McVie demos, this is great. When compared to the outtake from the 2004 reissue, it pales. ***

Silver Springs-Early Take: Um...wtf? Did Stevie vet this at all? Did she really agree to this, or was there a fight that she ultimately los? The vocals aren't even interesting. There's none of that oomph that other outtakes of Silver Springs have. I hear nothing that will make me want to listen to this again. It too sounds like a full version, stripped of some instruments, with a throw-away vocal, and I'd swear a huge ball of snot fell into the back of Stevie's throat at the end. Gross. *

Planets of the Universe: I like this one a whole bunch. This typifies a lot of the frustration I've had with Fleetwood Mac, and Stevie in particular - this track could have made a great b-side, almost as is. Some editing would be required, some cymbals or other percussion, and voila. An epic Fleetwood Mac b-side with a beautiful meandering piano ending. Instead, it wasn't "tight enough" or "produced enough". Guitar flourishes were added, and we got the meandering, lost version that appeared on the 2004 disc of outtakes. *****

Doesn't Anything Last-Duet: Another A+ track. More Stevie & Lindsey duets, please! *****

Never Going Back Again-Instrumental: This is nice, I suppose, but comes off as redundancy when placed on the same CD as a duet version. ***


All in all, there's little here that has repeat listening value, for me. I count six tracks that I'll come back to again and again. The rest will be largely forgettable.

It seems I am in the minority here, with many saying this disc is better than the 2004 disc.

[bombaysaffires]

What I don't like about it:

The loose sleeve on the back of the package which lists the contents. What do you do with that? It's too large to be contained in the box itself.

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this should have come either printed (expensive) or glued (not expensive) to the outside of the case. Seems cheapo.:distress:

[PenguinHead]

Oh my gawd ,I got to get the set with the LP.Thanks for letting me know.

I'm glad they are still printing vinyl and they should dump cds altogether.

I love to hear IYD on vinyl.LOL.

I would love to have In Your Dreams on vinyl. Was it ever released in that format? It's nice to see that, despite this digital era, vinyl is making a comeback. I see more and more new records being released on vinyl (albeit more expensive).

And...duh...my issue about the loose back sleeve is not an issue after all; I figured out that I can slip it inside the box. This is why I'm not a rocket scientist.

However I don't like that on the new CD version of Rumours, they tacked on Silver Springs as the last song after Gold Dust Woman. That's poor placement as Gold Dust Woman was and is the perfect ending.

The 2004 Rumours version (with the bonus material) got it right, placing Silver Springs after Songbird and before The Chain.

The DVD version sort of got it right, placing Silver Springs after Go Your Own Way, but then made Songbird the last song after Gold Dust Woman. It's OK, but Gold Dust Woman traditionally should always should be the last song.

What next version of Rumours should we expect? Rumours Live? Rumours Acoustic?

[KarmaContestant]

I would love to have In Your Dreams on vinyl. Was it ever released in that format? It's nice to see that, despite this digital era, vinyl is making a comeback. I see more and more new records being released on vinyl (albeit more expensive).

....

What next version of Rumours should we expect? Rumours Live? Rumours Acoustic?

In Your Dreams on vinyl would be amazing. I have noticed that newer vinyl releases don't have the same richness of sound that older vinyl albums have. I'm assuming it's from the difference in recording formats (digital versus analog). I've decided I like vinyl from analog sources better, but that hasn't stoped me from buying new records either, just because I like the format so much. I miss albums having sides. :laugh:


I was wondering about future Rumours releases also. My guess would be a single live concert recording. By giving us a compilation in this release, they left the door open for a whole concert later down the road.

[WildHearted]

What next version of Rumours should we expect? Rumours Live? Rumours Acoustic?


My vote is on Rumours Acapella.

Or maybe Rumours - Kidz Bop style. Stevie can recruit more children to reinvent their classics.

[Phil]

I'm quite impressed with the new outtakes cd and the box set overall. My only complaint is that "Silver Springs" would have been better represented by the original piano ballad with the incredible ending ("I cast a spell on you, you won't forget me..."). This release also offered an opportunity for a live recording of "Silver Springs" circa 1976 to be issued. These two versions would have made the box set complete for me.

[PenguinHead]

I'm quite impressed with the new outtakes cd and the box set overall. My only complaint is that "Silver Springs" would have been better represented by the original piano ballad with the incredible ending ("I cast a spell on you, you won't forget me..."). This release also offered an opportunity for a live recording of "Silver Springs" circa 1976 to be issued. These two versions would have made the box set complete for me.

I agree, but I'm not sure if that early live performance of "Silver Springs" was ever professionally recorded. However there is an early studio recording floating around that surprisingly didn't show up in the box set.

[PenguinHead]

My vote is on Rumours Acapella.

Or maybe Rumours - Kidz Bop style. Stevie can recruit more children to reinvent their classics.

:laugh: That's a brilliantly twisted idea. The Rumours Chorus Kids! A sell out to a brand new generation.

[CADreaming]

What I don't like about it:

The loose sleeve on the back of the package which lists the contents. What do you do with that? It's too large to be contained in the box itself.



I actually wondered about this and was concerned due to previous comments. Happily, I was able to carefully put the loose sleeve between the vinyl cover and the booklet and slide it back into the box. It's a pain but worth it to keep everything safe and neat.

[michelej1]

Christine managed emerge briefly from the shadows and provide some fresh comments. "Of all the Fleetwood Mac albums. I always had a bit of a penchant for Mystery To Me. I loved a lot of Bob Welch's songs and thought we blended well together, but I'm afraid it's a distant third place to Rumours, with the white Fleetwood Mac album sitting in second place, which I also thought was great."

Wait, this sounds like it's verbatim from that recent (UK?) article about the band/Chris in some magazine??

You know, I spoke too soon. I went back the Mojo wording is a little different here than it was there, even though she says basically the same thing, so maybe it is kind of fresh commentary from her.

She also lauds "the exciting and extraordinary chemistry between us, especially in light of the fact that we three Brits had met up with Stevie and Lindsey, who are from California, and how our different styles of music seemed to blend effortlessly. Also, there was the intoxicating variety of songwriting styles: two girls, three guys -- unusual and unintentionally commercial, yet honest."

Competition? "Most definitely. From my own point of view I had a lot to prove. I was in awe of Stevie and Lidnsey, and felt a great urgency to write some songs that surpassed others I'd written in the past."

"I hadn't really listened to Rumours for quite some time until this inspired me to listen again. I feel goose bumps and pride to have been a part of such a great album and a great band."


Michele

[I'msoAfraid95]

I don't like the price cause I can not afford it. I'll stick to my used Rumours cd which only $5 and it works fine :D

[desertangel]

I can tell you what I like/Don't like "so far" - I could change my mind in a week or two after I've had time to properly listen and view everything... that said:

Like - in no particular order: The Chain (demo), the DVD, the packaging, the liner notes

Don't Like: That only Stevie and Lindsey are on the liner notes, but I do understand that John is not a talker. I think Mick could have chimed in here and there and I think Chris could have emailed something... even if she is no longer with the band at this time. Would have enjoyed seeing more rare photos; most of those I've seen, with the exception of Stevie in the crochet top.

I'm sure I'll have more Likes in the near future.

[michelej1]

Don't Like: That only Stevie and Lindsey are on the liner notes, but I do understand that John is not a talker. I think Mick could have chimed in here and there and I think Chris could have emailed something... even if she is no longer with the band at this time. Would have enjoyed seeing more rare photos; most of those I've seen, with the exception of Stevie in the crochet top.


Yes, since we have the DVD-A comments from them from years ago, I don't really need Mick, but it seems odd that Christine is not on those liner notes, as a songwriter.

Michele

[BaronVonBielski]

I love the live CD from the Rumours tour. The quality and performance are both excellent. My only gripe is that they could've included more tracks on the live CD. I doubt 12 songs was all they played. Other than that the whole thing is top notch.

[Andrew Smith]

What are you supposed to do if you want the 3 cds, the dvd and not the Vinyl LP?

When will record companies realise that people who prefer CD's don't play/have vinyl and vice-versa. These CD/DVD/Vinyl releases have become very apparent over the last few years. They should re-issue the viynl seperately, then everybody's happy.

[michelej1]

When will record companies realise that people who prefer CD's don't play/have vinyl and vice-versa. These CD/DVD/Vinyl releases have become very apparent over the last few years. They should re-issue the viynl seperately, then everybody's happy.

Ha. I want vinyl and like to have it for my collection, but I am without a turntable right now. I had one that ripped vinyl to a compact disc, but I broke it when I moved. Even when I had the turntable and it was hooked up to my sound system, I had to be in a very specific mood to pull those LPs out and listen. It only happened one idle, perhaps rainy, Sunday every blue moon.

You make a good point. I think we are generally set up for one or the other, not both.

Michele

[Dragonfly]

I couldn't wait to order it online and receive it in the mail, so I went searching for a place to buy it. Not many choices here in Massachusetts. Target didn't have it. Best Buy didn't have it. I called Newbury Comics and they said they had only one, and the held it for me. I figured "wow, it must have flown off the shelves!" When I went to to store to pick it up, I asked the clerk about it. He said at the moment they only had one in stock! The list price was $100, but I only paid $80.

What I like about it:

It's a graphically well designed package
The live CD is very enjoyable
The Recording Sessions CD has some interesting material that isn't on the previous 2 disc Rumours release
The commentary by Lindsey and Stevie is surprisingly insightful and well written
Some great photos
Christine managed emerge briefly from the shadows and provide some fresh comments. "Of all the Fleetwood Mac albums. I always had a bit of a penchant for Mystery To Me. I loved a lot of Bob Welch's songs and thought we blended well together, but I'm afraid it's a distant third place to Rumours, with the white Fleetwood Mac album sitting in second place, which I also thought was great."

What I don't like about it:

The loose sleeve on the back of the package which lists the contents. What do you do with that? It's too large to be contained in the box itself.
The live CD is a collection from several different shows. But it's not a full show. Most conspicuously absent are Second Hand News and You Make Loving Fun. Considering the high price point, I wish they would have given us a download option to digitally acquire all three recorded show in their entirety.

The Rosebud film is great, but the resolution is still a bit fuzzy. But I can forgive that because it was probably the best they had. I always wondered the exact context for the film, but now I know; it was produced to promote their European tour.

Just received mine today and totally agree with you, that loose page on the back is annoying the hell out of me!:mad: It has already ripped slightly near the bottom, why didn't they just put the tracklisting on the back of the box??


Not had time to listen to all of it but am loving the unreleased demos and have watched a bit of the Rosebud film which is great to own.

It's left me broke but just had to have it!

[Blueletter18]

I agree, but I'm not sure if that early live performance of "Silver Springs" was ever professionally recorded. However there is an early studio recording floating around that surprisingly didn't show up in the box set.

I would die for a soundboard recording of that early live Silver Springs- so different! I felt like I'd heard the version released on the deluxe before on youtube or something...probably had.

I was pleasantly surprised by the version of GYOW with the "you can roll like thunder" lyric. Interesting parallel with "thunder always happens.." in dreams. My other favorites were Keep Me There and The Chain demo.

[michelej1]

I was pleasantly surprised by the version of GYOW with the "you can roll like thunder" lyric. Interesting parallel with "thunder always happens.." in dreams. My other favorites were Keep Me There and The Chain demo.

Yes, the extra songs almost make me feel that they ripped us off on the last Remastered Rumours item 8 years ago, because they knew they had better extras that they could have given us then. They just held back.

Regarding the other GYOW, it reminds me of the discussion in the You Can't Fix That thread about rhyming. My guess was that for that track Lindsey was just singing those thunder words for kicks, not as possible lyrics, just because he would naturally tend towards the way/day rhyme.

Michele

[Blueletter18]

Yes, the extra songs almost make me feel that they ripped us off on the last Remastered Rumours item 8 years ago, because they knew they had better extras that they could have given us then. They just held back.

Regarding the other GYOW, it reminds me of the discussion in the You Can't Fix That thread about rhyming. My guess was that for that track Lindsey was just singing those thunder words for kicks, not as possible lyrics, just because he would naturally tend towards the way/day rhyme.

Michele

Totally, those last Rumours outtakes were crap compared to these, except for Think About It and Gold Dust Woman. And you're right, the "thunder" was probably just a filler lyric, like the first thing that came to mind in the moment.

[sodascouts]

Lindsey doing IDWTK solo gives it a different tone which is interesting. It was exciting to hear Stevie's early Chain and Christine's Keep Me There. I like the outtakes/demos with significant and noteworthy differences, not the ones where there are just a couple missing instruments or vocals; the latter seem like filler.

Overall, I'm very pleased with the product.

[michelej1]

I like: Can I have more drums in my cans?

Michele

[Dragonfly]

Lindsey doing IDWTK solo gives it a different tone which is interesting. It was exciting to hear Stevie's early Chain and Christine's Keep Me There. I like the outtakes/demos with significant and noteworthy differences, not the ones where there are just a couple missing instruments or vocals; the latter seem like filler.

Overall, I'm very pleased with the product.

I agree with you:D

I'm loving the Lindsey only vocal on IDWTK and just love the early version of The Chain sung by Stevie.

I much prefer this disc to the other one we got, which most people already had with the previous expanded release anyway. The boxset is just about worth the money I think.

[SorcererJP]

I recieven my parel on januari 29 and I Like it a lot. Esp. The Rosebud DVD as wel as The live CD.

What I do not Like is that my parel came incomplete. CD4 (More of The recording sessions) was /is missing.

Dutch online retailer bol.com is stil working on an explanation to my complaint. Untill, I'm still working on my payment ;)

Alas, I have downloaded The cd and my personal highlight is Stevie's demo of The Chain.

[Hawkeye]

one thing thats become a favorite of mine since my initial review is Oh Daddy. I wouldn't have a problem with christine narrorating EVERY Fleetwood Mac song thats ever come out. I just love hearing her direct whats going on in Oh Daddy. and while i adore stevie's prominent vocals in the chorus from the demo we got in 2004, I might prefer this version with the slight different instrumentation and lyrics. And Chris's voice sounds so danmed perfect on her own. While this band is at its best when harmonizing, I also like gettting to hear their pure solo voices like christine on Oh Daddy and Stevie's The Chain.

[KarmaContestant]

one thing thats become a favorite of mine since my initial review is Oh Daddy. I wouldn't have a problem with christine narrorating EVERY Fleetwood Mac song thats ever come out. I just love hearing her direct whats going on in Oh Daddy. and while i adore stevie's prominent vocals in the chorus from the demo we got in 2004, I might prefer this version with the slight different instrumentation and lyrics. And Chris's voice sounds so danmed perfect on her own. While this band is at its best when harmonizing, I also like gettting to hear their pure solo voices like christine on Oh Daddy and Stevie's The Chain.

I really enjoy the outtake of Oh Daddy from 2004. Chris and Stevie sound *amazing* together and for the life of me, I can't understand why they removed Stevie's harmonies from the final release.

[SteveMacD]

Keep Me There/Butter Cookie sounds like something Christine would've done during the Welch years.

[mylittledemon]

Just received the box set myself... It's fantastic! I love it... I'm glad the price came down ;) It's not really a complaint, but it would've been nice (i've said this) to have the DVD-Audio version of the album included since it's now OOP. Other than that, maybe a better booklet of photos from the era?

[michelej1]

Just received the box set myself... It's fantastic! I love it... I'm glad the price came down ;) It's not really a complaint, but it would've been nice (i've said this) to have the DVD-Audio version of the album included since it's now OOP. Other than that, maybe a better booklet of photos from the era?

Oh, I thought the booklet was rather nice. Michele

[mylittledemon]

^Sorry I just meant more rare, unseen photos

[jcalzaretta]

I don't understand this version of Second Hand News

I loved Never Going Back Again - duet

I Don't Want to Know is good

Loving The Chain and Keep Me There. Brilliant to include

Interesting hearing parts from the Chain make it to the end of Gold Dust Woman on the last reissue.

Loved the music in Keep Me There except for the rush ending. I don't like that last two second part.

Oh Daddy - I have always appreciated this song but hands down the best version is with Christine and Stevie singing on the last reissue.

I love Silver Springs too. Be interesting to hear the demos in the order they were cut and see the evolution. You will never get away from the sound of the woman that wants you.....

Planets of the Universe is BRILLIANT. What a great version. Some of her early demos are brilliant as is. This, Forest of the Black Roses and Julia. Just amazing.

Doesn't Anything Last. Well how can anyone not LOVE these two singing together. Just meant to be.

[CADreaming]

Doesn't Anything Last. Well how can anyone not LOVE these two singing together. Just meant to be.

I know! That song kills me-those voices!

[KarmaContestant]

Oh Daddy - I have always appreciated this song but hands down the best version is with Christine and Stevie singing on the last reissue.


Indeed. :nod:

[britt0308]

I love Silver Springs too. Be interesting to hear the demos in the order they were cut and see the evolution. You will never get away from the sound of the woman that wants you.....


Agreed on everything you mentioned! Especially this ^

Interesting how one or two words can change the meaning..or intensity. It reveals much more directly with "want" vs. "haunts"

[elle]

I don't understand this version of Second Hand News

b/c he's mumbling incoherently ;) :laugh: - as he normally seems to do when making a new song and having some music but no words to fit into it yet. :)

[michelej1]

b/c he's mumbling incoherently ;)

Oh, yeah like he does in Deep Dense!

Michele

[elle]

Oh, yeah like he does in Deep Dense!

Michele

lol. nope, Given Thing and Wear You Down.

even i understand all words in Deep Dense :thumbsup:

[vivfox]

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[FierySequences]

this is long overdue, I just bought the 3CD pack yesterday and umm...

re:Outakes, not that impressed other than Keep Me There, IDWK, and worth the whole purchase: The Chain demo. boring at first, but fascinating that it became If You Ever Did Believe many moons later.

re: Live, I love it, I only wish they would have included YMLF.

overall, I'm not too disapointed...it didn't exceed my expectations, tho.

[I'msoAfraid95]

Woo Hoo. Its now available on Spotify to listen to for free. I like that. :D.

[Gene]

I love the live CD from the Rumours tour. The quality and performance are both excellent. My only gripe is that they could've included more tracks on the live CD. I doubt 12 songs was all they played. Other than that the whole thing is top notch.

I don't like that Christine is almost mixed out of it. Her piano and vocals seem a bit distant, like it's a bad audience recording. If they were going to cherry pick performances, they could've found better performances OR they could've mixed her a bit louder.
I too would've preferred a full show. Had to add in a few cuts from LIVE for a satisfying listen.

[Villavic]

Yes. Completely different tracks. I was a little disappointed with the outtakes we got in 2004, as they seemed to not be very different from the actual album cuts.

These new ones blow the previous release out of the water.

Wait... Doesn't Disc 5 of this deluxe boxset contain the same versions of Disc2 at the 2004 Remastered issue? I think so and that's what I don't like of this new box set. Even the titles and track lists are exactly the same so they didn't even try to hide it!

[SpyNote]

I think they did a great job with the reissue. My only problems are with "Silver Springs." I wish they had included its lyrics in the booklet and its original 7" mix either on the actual album or as a bonus track. The version they included is the same one found on the The Very Best of Fleetwood Mac and 2004 Rumours reissue. I asked Ken Caillat why it wasn't used and he said that particular mix may have been left at the original mastering house (i.e. not given back to Warner). The version on 25 Years comes close, but that mix too was tinkered with. So the original 7" mix of "Silver Springs" remains unreleased on CD.