Random blasts from Lindsey's past (21st Century pics)

[vivfox]

This thread is dedicated to elle, VivMcTrouble, Michele, WelshWitchPMD, CADreaming and Holiday Road as all of you seem to be the most Lindsey obsessed IMHO, although I don't expect any of these pics to be new to any of you ladies.

[vivfox]

Section Two

[vivfox]

section three

[holidayroad]

This thread is dedicated to elle, VivMcTrouble, Michele, WelshWitchPMD, CADreaming and Holiday Road as all of you seem to be the most Lindsey obsessed IMHO although I don't expect any of these pics to be new to any of you ladies.


vivfox, thanks so much!! What a very sweet thing to do! :xoxo:

Actually, there are a few of these pics that I haven't seen. :thumbsup:

[McTrouble]

This thread is dedicated to elle, VivMcTrouble, Michele, WelshWitchPMD, CADreaming and Holiday Road as all of you seem to be the most Lindsey obsessed IMHO, although I don't expect any of these pics to be new to any of you ladies.

Thank you darling - there are a couple I've never seen!!!!:xoxo:

[Madness Fades]

I took that one of him sitting on the stage in Dublin 2009,

[Cammie]

:] Thanks for the interesting photos of our Lindsey !!!
Some I have seen before but the girl in the bathrobe
on the porch takes the Cake !!! Notice Linds shoes!!!

You all are so funny and Iam glad to be here to read
your wonderful Lindsey news !!! :cool: CAM/Skylark

[vivfox]

Thank you darling - there are a couple I've never seen!!!!:xoxo:


Oh you're just being kind. We both know you own every pic of Lindsey ever created in this world.

[vivfox]

I took that one of him sitting on the stage in Dublin 2009


That is such a cool photo. Doesn't it make you feel good to know that pic is one of my favorites from my Lindsey obsession, uh erm, collection?

[vivfox]

:] the girl in the bathrobe on the porch takes the Cake !!!


From what I recall, Lindsey was walking down her street the next morning after his gig and she asked him to sit with her and have some coffee.

[elle]

From what I recall, Lindsey was walking down her street the next morning after his gig and she asked him to sit with her and have some coffee.

yup, also she's a fan who was at his show the night before.

thanks for sharing all these with us Viv - very sweet of you! :)

[CADreaming]

yup, also she's a fan who was at his show the night before.

thanks for sharing all these with us Viv - very sweet of you! :)

She's a wrestler who works with Billy Corgan.

[elle]

She's a wrestler who works with Billy Corgan.

i can't remember anymore and i'm lazy to look, but isn't she ex-wrestler?

[CADreaming]

i can't remember anymore and i'm lazy to look, but isn't she ex-wrestler?

Yeah but she was working with Corgan on some reality wrestling doc or something like that.

[elle]

This thread is dedicated to elle, VivMcTrouble, Michele, WelshWitchPMD, CADreaming and Holiday Road as all of you seem to be the most Lindsey obsessed IMHO, although I don't expect any of these pics to be new to any of you ladies.

this is very nice of you, but you missed many huge LB fans, and added one or 2 who probably shouldn't be listed as such by any stretch. so i feel the need to right this wrong (see vivfox, no good deed goes unpunished ;) )

from the poll a while ago (here http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=1515) here are the people who stated they prefer LB over other 2 songwriters in FM:

3rd World Man, bangdrum, BaronVonBielski, Black penguin, bluefox4000, Cammie, crazydivaz89, D.W-Suite, elle, erwk05, estranged4life, gfd1963, holidayroad, joshywashy377, kaitsy, Lindsfan, Lori40, McTrouble, MrStevie, Nico, Peestie, redtulip, ryan4136, sanders8323, shackin'up, Silver Springs, wondergirl9847

from this list of pro-LB voters in the poll linked above, i want to give a shout-out to some who i enjoyed talking to over the interwebs, whose posts i enjoyed a lot, and others that i had a pleasure of meeting personally (bold) and we had some great times together:
bangdrum
Cammie
crazydivaz89
D.W-Suite
erwk05
gfd1963
holidayroad
Lindsfan
Lori40
kaitsy
McTrouble
Nico
Peestie
redtulip
shackin'up
wondergirl9847

and then people not listed as voters in the poll above, probably because they either joined later or rarely post but are huge Lindsey supporters:
abbijoy
BTFLCHLD
crylove77
edgeof27
Erin
Hellomonster
Jetta07
lbfan
maccafan
madness fades
playon81
Rockaway
Sahara
sushud
WelshWitchPMD

and although not primarily a LB fan, i will add Michele as someone who is hugely contributing to a LB forum, in extremely level-headed way (most of the time ;) ).

who did i forget? (i'm sure i must have... probably someone who is a huge fan and supporter and has been for years)


EDIT: just to clarify because some seem confused judging by posts that followed: this is not an attempt to create some kind of list of LB's biggest fans. anyway, there are many huge LB fans that i know of who are not even on this board, for one reason or another. also, this is not some exclusive list - if anything it is an attempt to be more inclusive than the original post was. throwing around words like clique-ish does feel alienating and unnecessary.

[CADreaming]

^Lol. :rolleyes: That is so unnecessary... I wonder which "list" you think I make... :laugh:

[elle]

^Lol. :rolleyes: That is so unnecessary... I wonder which "list" you think I make... :laugh:

your vote is on SN list - http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=1515

people who appreciate TL, contribute with their posts, and/or who pour tons of $$ in supporting LB, felt it was necessary they be mentioned.

that said, we all do appreciate vivfox' thoughtfulness, and i'm sure i forgot many huge LB supporters... i amended the list and added at least 5 names already!

[McTrouble]

^Lol. :rolleyes: That is so unnecessary... I wonder which "list" you think I make... :laugh:

Is there a shipper list? :D:rolleyes:;):p

[WildHearted]

Eh, most people who post on the forums support the band members and spend tons of $$$ on them. I don't find it very necessary to make lists of the biggest supporters etc.

It was sweet of Vivfox to dedicate the thread to a few people she knew who would appreciate it, for sure. Beyond that it becomes superfluous and borderlining on exclusive/cliquey.

But regardless, thanks for posting Viv! Enjoyed the pictures a lot and there were quite a few I hadn't seen.

[elle]

It was sweet of Vivfox to dedicate the thread to a few people she knew who would appreciate it, for sure.

it's a he.

[McTrouble]

Eh, most people who post on the forums support the band members and spend tons of $$$ on them. I don't find it very necessary to make lists of the biggest supporters etc.

It was sweet of Vivfox to dedicate the thread to a few people she knew who would appreciate it, for sure. Beyond that it becomes superfluous and borderlining on exclusive/cliquey.

But regardless, thanks for posting Viv! Enjoyed the pictures a lot and there were quite a few I hadn't seen.


Who HE knew lol

[Lindsfan]

Eh, most people who post on the forums support the band members and spend tons of $$$ on them. I don't find it very necessary to make lists of the biggest supporters etc.

It was sweet of Vivfox to dedicate the thread to a few people she knew who would appreciate it, for sure. Beyond that it becomes superfluous and borderlining on exclusive/cliquey.

But regardless, thanks for posting Viv! Enjoyed the pictures a lot and there were quite a few I hadn't seen.

It was really sweet of Vivfox to think of his LB fan/friends :xoxo: But, I admit my first thought too, was that there were a LOT more very obsessed fans not mentioned. And, I don't believe most people spends lots of $$$. Plenty do for sure, but some have traveled half way around the world numerous times!!! Some have gone to 10,20,30,40 shows or more (solo Lindsey shows, not FM, because we're talking LB obsession)!! So, I think it's nice that Elle included others, thereby actually making it LESS cliquey :)

[WildHearted]

Who HE knew lol

Forgive me. I somehow tend to assume everyone on the internet is a girl unless I specifically know otherwise, for some reason. I guess because I'm a girl. :thumbsup:

I don't believe most people spends lots of $$$. Plenty do for sure, but some have traveled half way around the world numerous times!!! Some have gone to 10,20,30,40 shows or more (solo Lindsey shows, not FM, because we're talking LB obsession)!! So, I think it's nice that Elle included others, thereby actually making it LESS cliquey :)

I think people spend what they are able. Many people may not have the luxury or the means to travel across the world to see the band or Lindsey, or go to 20 shows per tour, or even to go to a SINGLE show, although maybe they wish they could. Which is why I personally don't feel it's right to single out people based on that. I think dedicating something to a few people for fun is different than actually making a list of the biggest fans. I personally feel the latter is unnecessary.

But that's just my opinion, and I can't expect everyone to agree. :)

[elle]

But that's just my opinion, and I can't expect everyone to agree. :)

yup. most people seem to like being appreciated and mentioned. :nod:

most people also don't appreciate being labeled clique-ish if stating they are a huge fan of someone.

also, just to clarify if anyone is confused - there are at least 2 vivs here - vivfox :xoxo: (boy) and viv mctrouble :xoxo: (girl).

[michelej1]

yup. most people seem to like being appreciated and mentioned. :nod:



Do they really? I don't even categorize myself, so I really don't want anyone else to do it for me. And I do find such lists clique-ish. But I guess some people like to be in exclusive groups. I never fit into them, so I suppose that's why I dislike them.


Michele

[McTrouble]

yup. most people seem to like being appreciated and mentioned. :nod:

most people also don't appreciate being labeled clique-ish if stating they are a huge fan of someone.

also, just to clarify if anyone is confused - there are at least 2 vivs here - vivfox :xoxo: (boy) and viv mctrouble :xoxo: (girl).

And me and vivfox love each other, but also like nothing better than to have a good bitch at each other!:D

Viv - WTF did you start here lol :p

[elle]

Do they really? I don't even categorize myself, so I really don't want anyone else to do it for me. And I do find such lists clique-ish. But I guess some people like to be in exclusive groups. I never fit into them, so I suppose that's why I dislike them.


Michele

ha, i knew that! that's why you are not included on my list, although you were in vivfox' original one. :)

you do have a point, i in fact never categorized myself as belonging to any group or party, and strongly dislike such categorization. i don't feel that stating i'm a fan of someone's music puts me in some exclusive club.

since the thread listed me as one of the people who would appreciate it, i felt i or someone else listed would be the right person to state that it's not only me and a few select others, that in fact there are many other people, some that i even personally know, who would appreciate this thread.

[KindOfWoman90]

Thanks Vivfox, once again, for some great pics! :nod:

[Lindsfan]

Just a thought (this IS a discussion forum after all)...

Maybe one reason so few people post here anymore is because whenever someone states an opinion they get reprimanded :shrug:

TWO people found it necessary to call Elle's post unnecessary becuase, after reading Vivfox's post, she thought to include others. And yet, Elle's post was cliquish, but Vivfox's (no offense, I appreciate his original post too) was not?? Why is that, exactly?? :confused: Personally, I don't think either post was cliquish. What I don't understand is why they're being judged differently.

And, with all due respect, I don't really understand the categorizing thing. Elle tried to do a nice thing, and point out that Lindsey has LOTS of dedicated fans. We're not a category. We're just fans. It's truly amazing the things that get blown out of proportion.

[redtulip]

ha, i knew that! that's why you are not included on my list, although you were in vivfox' original one. :)

you do have a point, i in fact never categorized myself as belonging to any group or party, and strongly dislike such categorization. i don't feel that stating i'm a fan of someone's music puts me in some exclusive club.

since the thread listed me as one of the people who would appreciate it, i felt i or someone else listed would be the right person to state that it's not only me and a few select others, that in fact there are many other people, some that i even personally know, who would appreciate this thread.

:nod::nod::nod:

Yep, lots more! Not clique-ish, we welcome LB lovers of all shapes and sizes! :D

[Lindsfan]

:nod::nod::nod:

Yep, lots more! Not clique-ish, we welcome LB lovers of all shapes and sizes! :D

Indeed we do :nod: I've met so many good people both at concerts, and online, that I've long since lost count. I make a point of, and I know many other LB fans do too, including and encouraging anyone who shows an interst in Lindsey and his music. It's the love of everything about him, that makes us anything BUT cliquish :nod:

[Nico]

I'm so confused. :confused: This thread was a very nice gesture and the pictures shared are amazing. And I appreciated the title, which grabbed my attention for sure.

But what is the big deal about elle's post? Why are people saying it is "unnecessary" if she decided to acknowledge other people who she knows are also huge LB supporters? I saw nothing but fairness in her post. I admit that I have often felt that I don't really belong in any clique on "The Ledge." I'm more of an outsider just sharing my love for Lindsey, who is my first and foremost where Fleetwood Mac is concerned. But I have so much appreciation and love for my fellow Lindsey fans, and elle's post was very appreciated by me. Sometimes it does sting to feel that, because one doesn't post as often or maybe isn't quite as consistent, they shouldn't also be considered amongst the group of huge Lindsey fans. Because I definitely am. Frankly, Lindsey is the only reason I come onto "The Ledge."

That and to read threads by many of you, especially the Lindsey stans. I am not slighting Vivfox's post. But I DO understand why elle felt the need to give a shout out to other huge Lindsey fans. She's a very fair person and I really admire that about her. Thank you elle.

Thanks for the thread. The pictures...Lindsey's hair has always held it's own.

[michelej1]

And, with all due respect, I don't really understand the categorizing thing. Elle tried to do a nice thing, and point out that Lindsey has LOTS of dedicated fans. We're not a category. We're just fans. It's truly amazing the things that get blown out of proportion.

Well, I think I got my own separate "category" in Elle's list. I responded to that description of myself.

As for clique-ishness, I think that many fans believe there are certain ways to be a fan and they like to measure others' fervor against their own and rank it.

Michele

[elle]

Well, I think I got my own separate "category" in Elle's list. I responded to that description of myself.

As for clique-ishness, I think that many fans believe there are certain ways to be a fan and they like to measure others' fervor against their own and rank it.

Michele

you got a special shout-out, not a category. :nod: :)

could be, i really dislike clique-ishness. in any shape or form. when i first started posting, i felt almost every post i made was being largely ignored by most who just continued talking to their own little clique, it was like HS kids lol. however, you made me feel welcome and that was one of the reasons i stayed. i don't feel clique-ishness is the problem here these days and that's a positive thing. but i do feel bad that so few people post here while choosing to start FB groups instead, for one reason or another. it would be great if we can change that.

[michelej1]

you got a special shout-out, not a category. :nod: :)

Well thank you. I think the language

and added one or 2 who probably shouldn't be listed as such by any stretch


seemed exclusionary. The inclusion or expansion upon LB lovers was great.


when i first started posting, i felt almost every post i made was being largely ignored by most who just continued talking to their own little clique, it was like HS kids lol. however, you made me feel welcome and that was one of the reasons i stayed. i don't feel clique-ishness is the problem here these days and that's a positive thing. but i do feel bad that so few people post here while choosing to start FB groups instead, for one reason or another. it would be great if we can change that.

Your efforts to do so and contributions here are appreciated.

I think people will go where they feel most comfortable and have the most friends. A lot seems to be happening on Facebook and I understand those that would rather be there. I just hate missing out on FM news that doesn't make it here.

Michele

[McTrouble]

Feel free to categorise me - I don't mind in the least! :thumbsup:

I will always be ecstatic to be in an exclusive obsessive Lindsey category clique ;):p

;):D

[Sleepless-Child]

this is very nice of you, but you missed many huge LB fans, and added one or 2 who probably shouldn't be listed as such by any stretch.

(So i wanted to jump in the fight yesterday but i was too tired.)
This sentence bugs me, and i think that's what CADreaming meant when saying it is "unnecessary". Because you didn't categorize her as a LB fan (him? i think it's "her"...) while she was "listed" in Vivfox' dedication, which is, i'm sorry, not a very nice thing to do. I believe that you can be both a huge Stevie AND a huge Lindsey fan... And if stating the opposite is not being clique-ish...
On the other hand adding other people was nice gesture, i understand why you did it, but i really think that Vivfox was making a dedication to LB fans he knows and appreciates, rather than making a list.

[kenzo]

I would like to be categorized as someone that doesn't like to be categorized.

Oh, and I really like LB's music. :D

[McTrouble]

I would like to be categorized as someone that doesn't like to be categorized.

Oh, and I really like LB's music. :D


lmao - someone else with a bit of tongue in cheek humour! :D

Oh, and re LB - :thumbsup::xoxo:

[elle]

Feel free to categorise me - I don't mind in the least! :thumbsup:

I will always be ecstatic to be in an exclusive obsessive Lindsey category clique ;):p

;):D

lol Viv! always the comic relief when people get too serious, and how do you all say it? "knickers in knots" over nothing? :thumbsup: :xoxo:

[CADreaming]

But what is the big deal about elle's post? Why are people saying it is "unnecessary" if she decided to acknowledge other people who she knows are also huge LB supporters? I saw nothing but fairness in her post.

That and to read threads by many of you, especially the Lindsey stans. I am not slighting Vivfox's post. But I DO understand why elle felt the need to give a shout out to other huge Lindsey fans.



Great to see you again Nico, but I'm sorry it took this to make you post again. I've missed you around here. I thought Elle's acknowledgement of those she felt were left out of Vivfox's shout out was certainly fair. But, I thought her bringing attention to a thread in a different forum as a way to gauge Lindsey support was totally unfair and unnecessary. Elle will admit she likes to stir stuff up and that's exactly what she was doing. I just wasn't going to let it slide because it's not her place to label my support, for instance, of Lindsey Buckingham by my vote in a poll for Stevie Nicks as my favorite songwriter of the group. It's just simply not accurate. I personally was flattered Vivfox mentioned me in his original post because I'm sure most of these ladies who keep this forum going would not deem me to be included in their clique. And, honestly, it's not true -- I've probably spent more money, time and traveled further to see Lindsey than either Stevie or FM. I adore the man, but everyone knows that I also equally adore Stevie. I may be a rare breed - it always seems to be so split between "Lindsey fans" vs. "Stevie fans" and I don't usually fall into one of those groups over the other and I don't really understand it.

So, that's why I thought Elle's post was unnecessary. I don't begrudge the listing of those who may have been unintentionally overlooked in Vivfox's post, but singling out others as not being fit to be included in the list was not for her to judge. You can't possibly know how big of fan someone is based on anything posted -- or not posted.




As for clique-ishness, I think that many fans believe there are certain ways to be a fan and they like to measure others' fervor against their own and rank it.

Yeah, I agree and I don't believe in it.

I think the language seemed exclusionary. Yes, that was my impression.

The inclusion or expansion upon LB lovers was great.

Agree.



This sentence bugs me, and i think that's what CADreaming meant when saying it is "unnecessary". Because you didn't categorize her as a LB fan (him? i think it's "her"...) while she was "listed" in Vivfox' dedication, which is, i'm sorry, not a very nice thing to do. I believe that you can be both a huge Stevie AND a huge Lindsey fan... And if stating the opposite is not being clique-ish...
On the other hand adding other people was nice gesture, i understand why you did it, but i really think that Vivfox was making a dedication to LB fans he knows and appreciates, rather than making a list.

Hi there, thanks for the post. I'm a "she", by the way. :) And, I appreciate your response. I thought Vivfox's post was wonderful and that he was only doing in this forum what he had so generously done in the others -- sharing wonderful pictures. His list may not have been all inclusive, but again I don't think that he intentionally slighted anyone - like you said it was just a list of folks he knew for sure were big LB fans - and Elle's expansion was nice.

Just wanted to explain. I'm all for enjoying the pictures again. :)

[McTrouble]

lol Viv! always the comic relief when people get too serious, and how do you all say it? "knickers in knots" over nothing? :thumbsup: :xoxo:


lmfao!!!! It's "knickers in a twist" !!!!:lol::lol::lol:

You can now just put me in "nitpicking" category! :D

[Madness Fades]

:D
Nice to see Elle selected me for the first team too. Always a huge Lindsey fan, just don't get the time to post as much these days but definitely check in everyday for my fix.
There's still a few actively flying the Lindsey flag high and proud in Ireland even after the downer last year.

[vivfox]

this is very nice of you, but you missed many huge LB fans, and added one or 2 who probably shouldn't be listed as such by any stretch. so i feel the need to right this wrong (see vivfox, no good deed goes unpunished


A dedication is a personal choice.You don't have the right to claim that 2 people shouldn't be listed in my dedication. If you look through the Ledge from the time you joined and way before that you will see that all these people I mentioned have posted positively in the Lindsey forum. If I forgot to mention some fans I do apologize because I would never want anyone to feel left out.

[vivfox]

It was sweet of Vivfox to dedicate the thread to a few people she knew who would appreciate it, for sure. Beyond that it becomes superfluous and borderlining on exclusive/cliquey.

But regardless, thanks for posting Viv! Enjoyed the pictures a lot and there were quite a few I hadn't seen.


She thanks you for the kind words. I'm not a fan of cliques. When I joined The Ledge in 2007 there were cliques and there were many members who were not in a clique as well. I am always one to embrace new Ledgies because I want everyone to feel like a part of the group. I have been friendly to every Ledgie on this site and several of them were venomous to me from the word go. Not everyone is gonna love you no matter how hard you try. I'm not gonna stop being nice.

[vivfox]

it's a he.


It doesn't matter whether they think I'm a he or a she although one can't fault you for trying to show a correction in the same way it drives most of us nuts when someone talks about Lindsey and spells it Lindsay or talks about Rumours and spells it Rumors.

[vivfox]

It was really sweet of Vivfox to think of his LB fan/friends :So, I think it's nice that Elle included others, thereby actually making it LESS cliquey


It's too late for me to make a new dedication list since the original has been dissected but sincerely, if I could do it all over again I would add your name. Or I would simple have dedicated it to ALL of Bucky's fans.

[vivfox]

Forgive me. I somehow tend to assume everyone on the internet is a girl unless I specifically know otherwise, for some reason. I guess because I'm a girl.


No offence was taken on my part. I'm flattered that some people still think I'm a female.

[McTrouble]

:D
Nice to see Elle selected me for the first team too. Always a huge Lindsey fan, just don't get the time to post as much these days but definitely check in everyday for my fix.
There's still a few actively flying the Lindsey flag high and proud in Ireland even after the downer last year.


First team :D

[vivfox]

I'm so confused. :confused: This thread was a very nice gesture and the pictures shared are amazing. And I appreciated the title, which grabbed my attention for sure. I am not slighting Vivfox's post.
Thanks for the thread. The pictures..


What amazed me the most is how many of these pics became new to people when all of them have been posted on The Ledge at one time or another.

[McTrouble]

She thanks you for the kind words. I'm not a fan of cliques. When I joined The Ledge in 2007 there were cliques and there were many members who were not in a clique as well. I am always one to embrace new Ledgies because I want everyone to feel like a part of the group. I have been friendly to every Ledgie on this site and several of them were venomous to me from the word go. Not everyone is gonna love you no matter how hard you try. I'm not gonna stop being nice.

I love cliques! I am in a very exclusive clique! In fact I am only member! :D:p

[vivfox]

And me and vivfox love each other, but also like nothing better than to have a good bitch at each other!:D

Viv - WTF did you start here lol :p


In the words of Taylor Swift:This is exhausting.

Love you too Ms. McTrouble

[McTrouble]

No offence was taken on my part. I'm flattered that some people still think I'm a female.

You're not??????? ;):rolleyes:

[vivfox]

I think that many fans believe there are certain ways to be a fan and they like to measure others' fervor against their own and rank it.


I've been guilty of this. I told another Ledgie(privately) that I was a greater fan of Stevie than she was and then realized how ridiculous my statement was and apologized for it later.

[vivfox]

i really think that Vivfox was making a dedication to LB fans he knows and appreciates, rather than making a list.
In my head I was thinking how I should dedicate this thread to elle and McTrouble and then another name popped into my head, and then another and then...At that point I was trying to think quickly off the top of my head which Ledgies post often in the LB forum. That's all. Really.

[vivfox]

I personally was flattered Vivfox mentioned me in his original post because I'm sure most of these ladies who keep this forum going would not deem me to be included in their clique.
I thought Vivfox's post was wonderful and that he was only doing in this forum what he had so generously done in the others -- sharing wonderful pictures. His list may not have been all inclusive, but again I don't think that he intentionally slighted anyone - like you said it was just a list of folks he knew for sure were big LB fans - and Elle's expansion was nice.


I appreciate CADreaming and I appreciate elle and I love being a member of these forums. And just for the record, it drives me crazy that my screen name isn't listed as the way it was when I signed up as VivFox. Capital V and capital F

[michelej1]

When I joined The Ledge in 2007 there were cliques and there were many members who were not in a clique as well. I am always one to embrace new Ledgies because I want everyone to feel like a part of the group. I have been friendly to every Ledgie on this site and several of them were venomous to me from the word go.

When I joined the Ledge, I found the atmosphere very toxic, so after one or two posts, I moved over to FMLegacy and didn't return for four years. Four years later . . . as Stevie would say.

Cliques are fine, when you are rejoicing in each other and your shared interests, but when you start mocking those you consider to be on the outside and buoying your own status and sense of togetherness by distinguishing yourselves from them in a negative way, then it's not so cute.
I think Facebook is a great place for that kind of thing. I find the exodus from The Ledge to FB inevitable. It's just a sign of the technology and the times we live in and I don't try to fight it, because I think everyone should have a place where they can post whatever they want to or about whomever they want, without fear of the response you'll get here when you do that.

My philosophy, on the Ledge, doesn't necessarily foster relationships among posters, because I don't believe in labeling other users. If you say something about someone else that doesn't comport with their own self- view, they are very likely to mind and they're going to tell you so. So, unless it's a pal of yours and you're joking around (as you and Viv sometimes do) I always like to talk about the band members and not about each other.

Michele

[michelej1]

I appreciate CADreaming and I appreciate elle and I love being a member of these forums.

Well, on an active forum, i like the way everyone has their own niche. I mean, studies have shown that twins develop interests that complement or compensate for each other. So, if one twin is very good in math, maybe the other one will become strong in English. You kind of find your place in the other's weakness.

So, on the X-Files forum there were people who were all into the mythology episodes. About the alien invasion coming through . . . ears of corn, I reckon. Corn and black oil. Well, that was not my forte at all. And because the people online knew every twist, detail and nuance of the mythology narrative, I found that I paid less and less attention to it myself, because if I needed information about it, I could always read it in their posts. I never needed to have it in my own head. So, I would concentrate on one part of the show and use other posters as my back up storage drive when it came to plotlines that were less compelling to me.

That's what I liked about the Ledge when I came. If I wanted to know about Chicken Shack, I knew that there were Christine fans like Gail and Mary Anne who knew it. People always talk about the angry Smile at You and I think it's FM on that demo and I knew that someone like David would be able to listen to the instruments and give an informed opinion as to whether the players on the "angry" demo were FM members or not. To me, that's what CADreaming is like. She has her own forte and it was so much fun to come here and see that she had thrown up the lyrics to Lindsey's SWS songs when those Saban videos were released, because I was really into trying to find a connection between the new songs and the past and I knew that she could understand that, even if we came to very different conclusions. It was a very fun time.

I guess I never wanted anyone to be the same type of FM fan that I am because I actually get more out of a board when there are different kinds of fans than I am. Not into Peter Green, but there have been times when I've needed insight from people who are. You can kind of make a collective brain together. You know, you keep track of how many times Krycek has threatened Mulder's life and I'll count how many times Scully has reached out to hold his hand:laugh:. Michele

Michele

[elle]

I wonder which "list" you think I make...
Is there a shipper list?
:laugh:

from this list of pro-LB voters in the poll linked above, i want to give a shout-out to some who i enjoyed talking to over the interwebs, whose posts i enjoyed a lot, and others that i had a pleasure of meeting personally (bold) and we had some great times together:
bangdrum
Cammie
crazydivaz89
D.W-Suite
erwk05
gfd1963
holidayroad
Lindsfan
Lori40
kaitsy
McTrouble
Nico
Peestie
redtulip
shackin'up
wondergirl9847

and then people not listed as voters in the poll above, probably because they either joined later or rarely post but are huge Lindsey supporters:
abbijoy
BTFLCHLD
crylove77
edgeof27
Erin
Hellomonster
Jetta07
lbfan
maccafan
madness fades
playon81
Rockaway
Sahara
sushud
WelshWitchPMD

and since we seem to be doing personal shout-outs (we are after all wrapping a great year as far as LB shows and new music!), i want to give a shout-out to few more people who are not primarily LB fans as far as FM fandom goes (and don't have any problems saying that! ;) ), but are nevertheless great LB supporters and have become great friends to me over the last 2 years: Amlyn and london who i met personally and we spent together some fun times, and MacMan who i never met in person but we talked a lot and he's been such a great LB supporter and incredibly fair and balanced source of LB information.

I admit that I have often felt that I don't really belong in any clique on "The Ledge." I'm more of an outsider just sharing my love for Lindsey, who is my first and foremost where Fleetwood Mac is concerned. But I have so much appreciation and love for my fellow Lindsey fans, and elle's post was very appreciated by me.
or maybe you are in the "clique" of LB defenders when "fair and balanced" people decide we all wear buckyblinders if we say something they don't like? :angel:

That and to read threads by many of you, especially the Lindsey stans. I am not slighting Vivfox's post. But I DO understand why elle felt the need to give a shout out to other huge Lindsey fans. She's a very fair person and I really admire that about her. Thank you elle.
<3 :xoxo:

you got a special shout-out, not a category.
I would like to be categorized as someone that doesn't like to be categorized.

Oh, and I really like LB's music.
:laugh: :wavey:

Feel free to categorise me - I don't mind in the least!

I will always be ecstatic to be in an exclusive obsessive Lindsey category clique
lol - finally someone who wants to be in the "clique".

Nice to see Elle selected me for the first team too. Always a huge Lindsey fan, just don't get the time to post as much these days but definitely check in everyday for my fix.
i would never forget you! always understanding and defending LB, when almost everyone else is more than ready to jump on him for one reason or another! :thumbsup:

A dedication is a personal choice.You don't have the right to claim
true! and wow VivFox - that whole post was harsh!:shocked: i definitely feel properly reprimanded. :laugh: and see VivFox, the same way you "have a right" to dedicate a thread to whoever you want, i have a right to give a shout-out to whoever i want, don't you think?

reprimands and nitpicking is exactly what several people pointed to in this very thread is what drives them away from posting although they love to discuss anything Lindsey:
Maybe one reason so few people post here anymore is because whenever someone states an opinion they get reprimanded
You can now just put me in "nitpicking" category!

it makes me sad that so few people post when it doesn't need to be that way. just look at the list of people in my shout-out! wouldn't it be so much more interesting around here if only a third of those people (maybe even just a third of the ones that i personally met before) would feel like their thoughts are welcome instead of being accused of wearing buckyblinders every time they decide to defend or take LB's side in some discussion?

so:
Yep, lots more! Not clique-ish, we welcome LB lovers of all shapes and sizes!
Indeed we do :nod: I've met so many good people both at concerts, and online, that I've long since lost count. I make a point of, and I know many other LB fans do too, including and encouraging anyone who shows an interest in Lindsey and his music. It's the love of everything about him, that makes us anything BUT cliquish

[elle]

I guess I never wanted anyone to be the same type of FM fan that I am because I actually get more out of a board when there are different kinds of fans than I am. Not into Peter Green, but there have been times when I've needed insight from people who are. You can kind of make a collective brain together.

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: definitely not into group thinking but collective / complementary brains instead! :nod:

and it's amazing how many interesting discussions can be carried on, and how many varied and polar opposite opinions or insights different people from all over the world can express if they are not immediately thrown into some category like "ah, you will always mindlessly defend LB no matter what he does".

[michelej1]

it makes me sad that so few people post when it doesn't need to be that way.

It doesn't make me sad, Elle. I think people have other places where they are posting and having fun with each other and maybe that's where they need to be. If you think it is nitpicking because you said that there are people included in Vivfox's list who aren't LB fans and shouldn't be included by any stretch of the imagination and other people didn't like your remark and said so, then you're going to continue to get nitpicked and this place is not going to get any better for you.

I'm sorry you don't feel welcome, but I don't think that comment of yours was very welcoming. You've done a lot for the board, but I don't see it ever shaping up to be the kind of place you envision. Unfortunately, maybe this just isn't the place for either the most passionate SN fans or the most passionate LB fans. I don't think that's a sad thing. Just a thing.

Michele

[Sleepless-Child]

Well, on an active forum, i like the way everyone has their own niche. I mean, studies have shown that twins develop interests that complement or compensate for each other. So, if one twin is very good in math, maybe the other one will become strong in English. You kind of find your place in the other's weakness.

So, on the X-Files forum there were people who were all into the mythology episodes. About the alien invasion coming through . . . ears of corn, I reckon. Corn and black oil. Well, that was not my forte at all. And because the people online knew every twist, detail and nuance of the mythology narrative, I found that I paid less and less attention to it myself, because if I needed information about it, I could always read it in their posts. I never needed to have it in my own head. So, I would concentrate on one part of the show and use other posters as my back up storage drive when it came to plotlines that were less compelling to me.

That's what I liked about the Ledge when I came. If I wanted to know about Chicken Shack, I knew that there were Christine fans like Gail and Mary Anne who knew it. People always talk about the angry Smile at You and I think it's FM on that demo and I knew that someone like David would be able to listen to the instruments and give an informed opinion as to whether the players on the "angry" demo were FM members or not. To me, that's what CADreaming is like. She has her own forte and it was so much fun to come here and see that she had thrown up the lyrics to Lindsey's SWS songs when those Saban videos were released, because I was really into trying to find a connection between the new songs and the past and I knew that she could understand that, even if we came to very different conclusions. It was a very fun time.

I guess I never wanted anyone to be the same type of FM fan that I am because I actually get more out of a board when there are different kinds of fans than I am. Not into Peter Green, but there have been times when I've needed insight from people who are. You can kind of make a collective brain together. You know, you keep track of how many times Krycek has threatened Mulder's life and I'll count how many times Scully has reached out to hold his hand:laugh:. Michele

Michele


Aaah, Michele, i think it's a good time to tell you how much i love it when you make those X-files or Sonny and Cher analogies (because you do that a lot :D). I don't post here a lot because i, for some reason, don't feel really comfortable posting here. But, in terms of complementary thinking, i wouldn't work with you because i agree with everything you say. And you and CADreaming, and actually the whole LB fandom (even if i am not afraid to categorize myself as a Stevie fan mainly :P), are the reason why i keep lurking here after all these years (well, three years actually :laugh:), even if i don't necessarily often agree with the rest of you :).
This all thing is just a misunderstanding of people wanting to be polite in their own way (dedicating something, adding people, etc.). So you are all nice and it's all good :).

[elle]

It doesn't make me sad, Elle. I think people have other places where they are posting and having fun with each other and maybe that's where they need to be. If you think it is nitpicking because you said that there are people included in Vivfox's list who aren't LB fans and shouldn't be included by any stretch of the imagination and other people didn't like your remark and said so, then you're going to continue to get nitpicked and this place is not going to get any better for you.

I'm sorry you don't feel welcome, but I don't think that comment of yours was very welcoming. You've done a lot for the board, but I don't see it ever shaping up to be the kind of place you envision. Unfortunately, maybe this just isn't the place for either the most passionate SN fans or the most passionate LB fans. I don't think that's a sad thing. Just a thing.

Michele

oh wow, Michele, that's a downer post to wrap up the year. :laugh: :wavey:

and no, i was not the one who brought up nitpicking (plus that's what i'm apparently doing right now lol), and i think it as well as reprimanding was meant in more general terms than this small thread.

[Sleepless-Child]

It doesn't make me sad, Elle. I think people have other places where they are posting and having fun with each other and maybe that's where they need to be. If you think it is nitpicking because you said that there are people included in Vivfox's list who aren't LB fans and shouldn't be included by any stretch of the imagination and other people didn't like your remark and said so, then you're going to continue to get nitpicked and this place is not going to get any better for you.

I'm sorry you don't feel welcome, but I don't think that comment of yours was very welcoming. You've done a lot for the board, but I don't see it ever shaping up to be the kind of place you envision. Unfortunately, maybe this just isn't the place for either the most passionate SN fans or the most passionate LB fans. I don't think that's a sad thing. Just a thing.

Michele

Oh this might be the reason why i don't feel comfortable posting here...but i don't think i'm a SN die-hard...
Anyway i agree with this, but i've said it already.

[elle]

and actually the whole LB fandom (even if i am not afraid to categorize myself as a Stevie fan mainly :P), are the reason why i keep lurking here after all these years (well, three years actually :laugh:), even if i don't necessarily often agree with the rest of you :).

:laugh: :thumbsup: :xoxo:

and, you are more than welcome here - please do post whenever you feel like it!

[michelej1]

Aaah, Michele, i think it's a good time to tell you how much i love it when you make those X-files or Sonny and Cher analogies (because you do that a lot :D). I don't post here a lot because i, for some reason, don't feel really comfortable posting here.

Oh, that's a shame, because you're so good at it. I really enjoy your posts as well.

I can't help myself about the X-Files because although I have been an FM fan for a long time, I didn't post about them online until 2003, after the X-Files went off the air and I had free time on my hands. I spent the first half of my internet life arguing about Mulder and Scully! Gave me good experience for the Stevie and Lindsey ground wars.:nod:

Michele

[michelej1]

and no, i was not the one who brought up nitpicking (plus that's what i'm apparently doing right now lol), and i think it as well as reprimanding was meant in more general terms than this small thread.

Well, I know what you mean about reprimanding in general terms. But you know there's some SN fan reprimanding going on on the board too. They don't like it any more than LB fans like it. I take some comfort in that:laugh:.

Michele

[elle]

Oh this might be the reason why i don't feel comfortable posting here...but i don't think i'm a SN die-hard...
Anyway i agree with this, but i've said it already.

VivFox is a die hard SN fan (i think?) and we love to have him! same with Hejira or mezzoforte, or other people who love various FM members equally.

and so, since this cannot be repeated enough but seems to keep getting lost:

Quote:
Originally Posted by redtulip
Not clique-ish, we welcome LB lovers of all shapes and sizes!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lindsfan
met so many good people both at concerts, and online, that I've long since lost count. I make a point of, and I know many other LB fans do too, including and encouraging anyone who shows an interest in Lindsey and his music.
_________

[Sleepless-Child]

Oh, that's a shame, because you're so good at it. I really enjoy your posts as well.

I can't help myself about the X-Files because although I have been an FM fan for a long time, I didn't post about them online until 2003, after the X-Files went off the air and I had free time on my hands. I spent the first half of my internet life arguing about Mulder and Scully! Gave me good experience for the Stevie and Lindsey ground wars.:nod:

Michele

Yeah but TV shows are way more satisfying because you actually see what's happening :). Here when you argue about Stevie and Lindsey there's always the issue of 'what if i'm wrong', because you never really know. I don't even trust Carol Ann (but then again who does?). (i've been reading Storms lately...)

[Sleepless-Child]

VivFox is a die hard SN fan (i think?) and we love to have him! same with Hejira or mezzoforte, or other people who love various FM members equally.

and so, since this cannot be repeated enough but seems to keep getting lost:

Quote:
Originally Posted by redtulip
Not clique-ish, we welcome LB lovers of all shapes and sizes!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lindsfan
met so many good people both at concerts, and online, that I've long since lost count. I make a point of, and I know many other LB fans do too, including and encouraging anyone who shows an interest in Lindsey and his music.
_________


Yeah but then again in the same posts you read something like that :
"this is very nice of you, but you missed many huge LB fans, and added one or 2 who probably shouldn't be listed as such by any stretch. "
This sentence only is the reason for this whole argument. The rest, i totally agree with you. :nod:

[michelej1]

Yeah but TV shows are way more satisfying because you actually see what's happening :). Here when you argue about Stevie and Lindsey there's always the issue of 'what if i'm wrong', because you never really know. I don't even trust Carol Ann (but then again who does?). (i've been reading Storms lately...)

You're right. And with human beings, even if we could see everything, we still wouldn't know everything. It's all subject to interpretation.

I guess with tv shows you like to think there is one definitive truth. No matter how a viewer perceives something, you often think that you can find an ultimate "yes" or "no" answer, depending on what the writer intended.

With people, even if they were witness to or participants in the same event, they will each have their own truth about it. With CAH I think my main problem was that sometimes I didn't even think she was telling the truth as she saw it. But I devoured Storms. Michele

[elle]

Well, I know what you mean about reprimanding in general terms. But you know there's some SN fan reprimanding going on on the board too. They don't like it any more than LB fans like it. I take some comfort in that:laugh:.

Michele

:laugh: but of course, and that's a good thing. what mostly bugs is when someone claims (on and on and on ;)) how fair, balanced and unbiased they are while doing the "reprimanding"... so after a while most other people just give up on discussion and decide they have better things to do with their lives. and then some random person with mild FM interest starts googling LB and finds these boards and gets some potentially misleading impressions.

i freely admit i am LB biased and i think that most SN fans or CM fans do not claim they are unbiased either. that's what makes the world go around, we all have different interests and likes. although have to say that you seem to be pretty unbiased and i find that a refreshing rarity. same with Nancy, or Amlyn. or MacMan. (and no, you all should not consider yourself categorized now ;):lol: )

[michelej1]

i freely admit i am LB biased and i think that most SN fans or CM fans do not claim they are unbiased either. that's what makes the world go around, we all have different interests and likes. although have to say that you seem to be pretty unbiased and i find that a refreshing rarity. same with Nancy, or Amlyn. or MacMan. (and no, you all should not consider yourself categorized now ;):lol: )

I love all three guys. I don't love them equally, but I strive for equality. I mean, I used to have Don't Stop as my ringtone and I said, "Well, Christine is gone. So, you can do it. But if she was still here, you couldn't have her as a ringtone above those other two."

So, I am playing some kind of OCD game with myself about the three of them.

But when it comes to brass tacks, I never put the gal or the dame above LB.:cool:

Michele

[Sleepless-Child]

You're right. And with human beings, even if we could see everything, we still wouldn't know everything. It's all subject to interpretation.

I guess with tv shows you like to think there is one definitive truth. No matter how a viewer perceives something, you often think that you can find an ultimate "yes" or "no" answer, depending on what the writer intended.

With people, even if they were witness to or participants in the same event, they will each have their own truth about it. With CAH I think my main problem was that sometimes I didn't even think she was telling the truth as she saw it. But I devoured Storms. Michele

I agree with the 'yes' or 'no' thing. I think the more there is possibility for different perceptions of the show, of its truth, the more interesting it is. That's why i think the build-up to Mulder and Scully being together was actually more interesting than them being together, because there were so many people who weren't shippers at all, and wouldn't believe that there was something going on (til it became obvious). And therefore, you root for a couple, but there are downers, and you just live with this incertainty, and it's way more exciting :). When it was all said, and it's the same for every single fiction couple, i feel happy we get a happy closure but i'm also way less excited.

Anyway, there's a bit in Storms that i find especially interesting, it is that moment when they are all doing the Rolling Stone photoshoot. She says it was a wrap in 45 minutes, and then Lindsey said (can't find the quote) he stayed on the bed of the photoshoot for like an hour...with Stevie. i would die to know the truth about that :).

[michelej1]

Anyway, there's a bit in Storms that i find especially interesting, it is that moment when they are all doing the Rolling Stone photoshoot. She says it was a wrap in 45 minutes, and then Lindsey said (can't find the quote) he stayed on the bed of the photoshoot for like an hour...with Stevie. i would die to know the truth about that :).

Well, that was one of the odder passages in Storms. First of all, CAH says that the shoot took place in her house. That is just false. To me, it's like she said that deliberately to discount the stories that Stevie and Lindsey have told about the shoot. It's like she wanted to tell the reader that Stevie and Lindsey didn't have the time or access to share an intimate moment during the shoot, because she was there and it was in her bedroom. But it wasn't.

Yes, Stevie and Lindsey both told different versions when they recalled the shoot for a Rolling Stone anniversary issue. Like you, I don't have the quote right now. We have laughed about it in threads here somewhere, which I can't find at the time. Stevie had them practically making out for 30-45 minutes and Lindsey says it was more like 15, but the discrepancies, as slight as they were, were hilarious.

Michele

[michelej1]

Anyway, there's a bit in Storms that i find especially interesting, it is that moment when they are all doing the Rolling Stone photoshoot. She says it was a wrap in 45 minutes, and then Lindsey said (can't find the quote) he stayed on the bed of the photoshoot for like an hour...with Stevie. i would die to know the truth about that :).

Oh, here's a post with the quotes.
http://www.ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showpost.php?p=204257&postcount=3

"Christine really didn't want to be next to John, because they were just divorced," Nicks adds. "So he was the odd man out, reading the magazine. Afterwards, Lindsey and I got to talking about how amazing it was that not so long ago I was a waitress and he didn't have a job, and now we were on the cover of Rolling Stone with this huge record. And we lay there for two hours talking and making out. Finally, Annie had to tell us to leave, because she had rented the room for only so long. But in one afternoon she put Lindsey and me back together and also planted the seed for Mick and me, which happened a year later. You want to know the power of Annie Leibovitz, there you go."

As for Buckingham, he remembers the photo session a little differently. "For Stevie and me, the wounds and animosities were still very fresh," he says. "So the idea for the photo wasn't all that funny. We had to compartmentalize our feelings to keep the band functional, and at the end of the session, we had this moment of not being able to avoid all that had been lost. We embraced for about fifteen minutes, and Mick finally came over and said that people were starting to get uncomfortable. I don't know how healthy all this display of our personal life was, but that's showbiz."



Stevie said they talked and made out for two hours. What a nut. Logistically, do you see making out at a photo shoot with a photographer, her assistants and make up/wardrobe people roaming around, for two whole hours?

Lindsey said that they confronted what they'd lost and embraced for fifteen minutes.

Carol says the whole shoot took place in her home, under her watchful eye and I think, would have us to know there was no embracing or making out.

[Sleepless-Child]

Well, that was one of the odder passages in Storms. First of all, CAH says that the shoot took place in her house. That is just false. To me, it's like she said that deliberately to discount the stories that Stevie and Lindsey have told about the shoot. It's like she wanted to tell the reader that Stevie and Lindsey didn't have the time or access to share an intimate moment during the shoot, because she was there and it was in her bedroom. But it wasn't.

Yes, Stevie and Lindsey both told different versions when they recalled the shoot for a Rolling Stone anniversary issue. Like you, I don't have the quote right now. We have laughed about it in threads here somewhere, which I can't find at the time. Stevie had them practically making out for 30-45 minutes and Lindsey says it was more like 15, but the discrepancies, as slight as they were, were hilarious.

Michele

MAKING OUT??! :laugh::laugh:. I don't understand why she lies about these things. This all book is about Carol Ann trying to make us feel sorry for her, and when she has one real opportunity, she hides it. Well, i guess it's a matter of pride. She won't admit that there was something going on between Lindsey and Stevie, aka the hotel scene when Lindsey "solved the problem" with Stevie.
I also think that something happened between Lindsey and Stevie during the Japan leg of the Tusk tour, but this is just assumption.

[redtulip]

Oh, here's a post with the quotes.
http://www.ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showpost.php?p=204257&postcount=3





Stevie said they talked and made out for two hours. What a nut. Logistically, do you see making out at a photo shoot with a photographer, her assistants and make up/wardrobe people roaming around, for two whole hours?

Lindsey said that they confronted what they'd lost and embraced for fifteen minutes.

Carol says the whole shoot took place in her home, under her watchful eye and I think, would have us to know there was no embracing or making out.

Carol said it was at Lindsey's house. It was before they moved in together, when she was still working at the studio. She said she arrived there after work and if I remember right, Lindsey was excited about how it was going and showed her some polariods.

[michelej1]

Carol said it was at Lindsey's house. It was before they moved in together, when she was still working at the studio. She said she arrived there after work and if I remember right, Lindsey was excited about how it was going and showed her some polariods.

Oh, I was thinking it was after they were already co-habitating. So, when I said her house, I meant Lindsey's (assuming it was the one she occupied as well).

Michele

[redtulip]

Oh, I was thinking it was after they were already co-habitating. So, when I said her house, I meant Lindsey's (assuming it was the one she occupied as well).

Michele

I'm pretty sure she was still living in her own apartment and still working at the studio. So she wasn't there at the beginning of the shoot at least, according to what she wrote.

[Sleepless-Child]

Oh, here's a post with the quotes.
http://www.ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showpost.php?p=204257&postcount=3





Stevie said they talked and made out for two hours. What a nut. Logistically, do you see making out at a photo shoot with a photographer, her assistants and make up/wardrobe people roaming around, for two whole hours?

Lindsey said that they confronted what they'd lost and embraced for fifteen minutes.

Carol says the whole shoot took place in her home, under her watchful eye and I think, would have us to know there was no embracing or making out.

THANK YOU :D.
"But in one afternoon she put Lindsey and me back together and also planted the seed for Mick and me, which happened a year later. You want to know the power of Annie Leibovitz, there you go". Back together, really, Stevie??
In a way Carol Ann and Stevie are very similar : both excessive in their statements.
Two hours is exaggerated i'm sure.

[McTrouble]

How the hell did this get on to Storms????????? :shrug:

Anyway although I still value being a member here, I sure am glad there are more fun places to hang out where one can have a laugh and not take oneself so seriously! :p

I joined The Ledge because I love Lindsey (and to an extent F/Mac) and I wanted some lighthearted fun - after all, that's what talking about your favourite thing should be: fun!!!!

So maybe I don't come here as often as I used to - it's way too serious for my silly personality!

Too much huffing and puffing about nothing! :sorry:

But I do still like to post some daft comments when things get too serious so I'll leave you for now with a little ditty:-

The sun has got his hat on
Hip hip hip hooray
The sun has got his hat on
And he's coming out today

I'm here all week folks! :D

BTW - If only you could all just accept that Lindsey is THE best! :D ;);):rolleyes:

*Ready to be jumped all over now but I don't mind* ;)

[elle]

I joined The Ledge because I love Lindsey (and to an extent F/Mac) and I wanted some lighthearted fun - after all, that's what talking about your favourite thing should be: fun!!!!

So maybe I don't come here as often as I used to - it's way too serious for my silly personality!

Too much huffing and puffing about nothing! :sorry:

But I do still like to post some daft comments when things get too serious so I'll leave you for now with a little ditty:-


lol Viv - but that's my point - we / you can make it as silly and fun and lighthearted as much as we want - as well as serious at times. although i do understand that many feel it's not worth their time and effort.

that said - spare us your ditties in the future please :p :D ;) :laugh:

[elle]

BTW - If only you could all just accept that Lindsey is THE best! :D ;);):rolleyes:

*Ready to be jumped all over now but I don't mind* ;)

oh but of course! in fact, that's the ultimate truth - and rumor has it that anybody who has ever posted anything in this forum has to completely agree with that :p :D ;)

although isn't something off if, in LB fan forum where by definition people should be able to freely be "LB fanatics" as much as they want, we expect to be jumped on when stating "LB is the best"? what's wrong with that picture?

and all - before you get your knickers knotted, twisted or whatever - this is just my bad attempt at joking. :p :angel:

[McTrouble]

lol Viv - but that's my point - we / you can make it as silly and fun and lighthearted as much as we want - as well as serious at times. although i do understand that many feel it's not worth their time and effort.

that said - spare us your ditties in the future please :p :D ;) :laugh:

I'll think about it! :D

Maybe I'll just write some Buck related ditties! :p

[vivfox]

Stevie said they talked and made out for two hours. What a nut. Logistically, do you see making out at a photo shoot with a photographer, her assistants and make up/wardrobe people roaming around, for two whole hours?


Stevie has a love affair with the phrase 2 hours. She uses it often, especially when referring to her live show. I would LOVE to see her perform for 2 whole hours. It's never happened nor will it ever happen.

[vivfox]

:laugh: but of course, and that's a good thing. what mostly bugs is when someone claims (on and on and on ;)) how fair, balanced and unbiased they are while doing the "reprimanding"... so after a while most other people just give up on discussion and decide they have better things to do with their lives. and then some random person with mild FM interest starts googling LB and finds these boards and gets some potentially misleading impressions.


Well it's obvious you are talking about me here. I don't have a problem with reminding you that I didn't agree with your statement of who is and who isn't a fan of Lindsey's. I have always appreciated your positive contributions to this board and have both privately and publicly told you so. I'm not worried about some random person stumbling on this thread and getting potentially misleading impressions of us because one cannot predict the future or how a potential new member may perceive us.