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Bandon
12-04-2012, 01:08 AM
According to an article on MSN music article (Source: Nicks Blog Spot), one of the two new Fleetwood Mac songs will be released in two weeks. :blob2: However, Stevie says Lindsey put his "lead" vocals on "both" songs, so it sounds like they may both be his.:shrug:

vivfox
12-04-2012, 01:18 AM
ENTERTAINMENT.
John Travolta's lawyer slams new lawsuit
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Fleetwood Mac tour confirmed
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NY Film Critics name top film
Kid Rock is OK with Obama
Baldwin gets two-year TV deal
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Bandon
12-04-2012, 01:27 AM
But now it’s a reality, with the 34-city tour kicking off on April 4 and tickets going on sale as early as Friday, Dec. 14. And that’s not all. A deluxe version of “Rumours” will come out with the tour and will include unreleased outtakes and live songs. Plus, the band – Buckingham, Nicks, Mick Fleetwood and John McVie – has recorded two new songs to be released before the tour – one in just a few weeks.

WildHearted
12-04-2012, 01:59 AM
Of course they are both his - I'm not sure where the vibe that they might not be came from. The song that Stevie recorded was one from the BN era.

TrueFaith77
12-04-2012, 06:31 AM
Of course they are both his - I'm not sure where the vibe that they might not be came from. The song that Stevie recorded was one from the BN era.

I think peeps were confused because she CHOSE one of Lindsey's songs and Lindsey chose one of his own songs for Stevie to put vocals on.

Somehow that got confused with Stevie choosing one of her own songs? or something...



eta: So it sounds like January for the first single. Very exciting. Glad they are being released as singles. That is as it should be. I don't like EPs because I don't make a Best EP of the Year List. haha

D.W-Suite
12-04-2012, 06:45 AM
A deluxe version of “Rumours” will come out with the tour and will include unreleased outtakes and live songs.

Ugh. Although maybe I can finally get that copy of Second Hand News that appears in the Classic Albums doc. Y'know, the one with the electric guitar playing the lead vocal melody in the chorus. That'd be sweet. :thumbsup: It's also surely one of the only remaining outtakes we've yet to be given....

Lee
12-04-2012, 11:30 AM
It really irks me that Stevie doesn't think the fans want new Fleetwood Mac music. :shrug: I mean she put out a CD with new music & it did OK. Yeah, I'd take an EP, but I'd rather have a whole CD with new songs. And I know they got a few new songs between her & Lindsey.

Lee :confused:

WildHearted
12-04-2012, 11:51 AM
It really irks me that Stevie doesn't think the fans want new Fleetwood Mac music. :shrug: I mean she put out a CD with new music & it did OK. Yeah, I'd take an EP, but I'd rather have a whole CD with new songs. And I know they got a few new songs between her & Lindsey.

Lee :confused:

Stevie and Lindsey both seem to think this (although, it could be that Stevie's opinions rubbed off on him).

I don't know why they would get that impression, at all. I've hardly seen people flooding the boards or attending their concerts with signs saying "No new music, ever! Just the same songs we've heard over and over for the past 30 years please!"

Really, though. What.

CADreaming
12-04-2012, 12:03 PM
Sure the fan base wants new stuff - unfortunately we aren't going to cause them to go platinum....

WildHearted
12-04-2012, 12:07 PM
Sure the fan base wants new stuff - unfortunately we aren't going to cause them to go platinum....

Of course not. But they need to rephrase themselves, in that case: it's not the FANS who aren't interested in new music, it's the general public.

peer_gynt10
12-04-2012, 12:19 PM
Of course not. But they need to rephrase themselves, in that case: it's not the FANS who aren't interested in new music, it's the general public.

Then why don't they make an effort and record an album that will get people's interest? And, just a sarcastic thought, why not promote it while on tour?

CADreaming
12-04-2012, 12:22 PM
Of course not. But they need to rephrase themselves, in that case: it's not the FANS who aren't interested in new music, it's the general public.

Agreed.

Then why don't they make an effort and record an album that will get people's interest? And, just a sarcastic thought, why not promote it while on tour?

I don't think that's their fault. You're just not gonna get enough 10-14 year olds into FM - who are all pushing 70...

peer_gynt10
12-04-2012, 12:52 PM
Agreed.



I don't think that's their fault. You're just not gonna get enough 10-14 year olds into FM - who are all pushing 70...

True, but there was a time when FM were actually happy to sell 300-500,000 albums. Like many people here, I am just frustrated by the fact that Rumours - as much as I love it - is the be all and end all. And now we're getting yet another re-release of that one, while Mirage, Tango and Mask are slowly written out of history, let alone Mystery, Heroes and Bare Trees. Why not at least give us decent double-disc reissues of their whole catalogue and promote those with a tour?

TrueFaith77
12-04-2012, 12:53 PM
Point blank. If it didn't sell WAY better than SYW--think Eagles numbers--then they would not think it is worth it. And they would be correct in guessing it won't sell better.

nevedix20
12-04-2012, 01:01 PM
Website is up, the wheels are in motion I am entranced in the whole FM circus! ehh

elle
12-04-2012, 01:32 PM
Stevie and Lindsey both seem to think this (although, it could be that Stevie's opinions rubbed off on him).

I don't know why they would get that impression, at all. I've hardly seen people flooding the boards or attending their concerts with signs saying "No new music, ever! Just the same songs we've heard over and over for the past 30 years please!"

Really, though. What.

ok, i know i keep saying this but i don't know why so many people seem to think that what Stevie says SHE thinks is also what Lindsey thinks?

remember, Lindsey was out touring and meeting quite a few fans this year? he said over and over in interviews and conversations with fans that he wants new FM album and/or he wants to put new FM music out, in whichever way possible. Stevie even mentioned that in few interviews (although she says she has convinced him that's a bad idea... frankly i don't think he's that convinced :p ). why is nobody listening to what Lindsey actually says and everybody putting Stevie's words in his mouth is just really puzzling to me.

i do agree with people who are saying that it's the label holding them back. we all know they won't make money from selling albums or new music. (i wonder whether they'll put out that first track just for free as a download like Lindsey did with title track of SWS?)

now if the tour doesn't sell, that will be a problem. i hope for them it does, but who knows considering the info about sales for some other acts...

poetinmyheart
12-04-2012, 01:34 PM
Website is up, the wheels are in motion I am entranced in the whole FM circus! ehh

Me too! What a Christmas present.

Macfanforever
12-04-2012, 01:36 PM
Thats great.Radio probably stick it in the trash like they did with her IYD CD.
I hope it will get some airplay like Peace Keeper and SYW did in 2003.

WildHearted
12-04-2012, 01:47 PM
ok, i know i keep saying this but i don't know why so many people seem to think that what Stevie says SHE thinks is also what Lindsey thinks?

remember, Lindsey was out touring and meeting quite a few fans this year? he said over and over in interviews and conversations with fans that he wants new FM album and/or he wants to put new FM music out, in whichever way possible. Stevie even mentioned that in few interviews (although she says she has convinced him that's a bad idea... frankly i don't think he's that convinced :p ). why is nobody listening to what Lindsey actually says and everybody putting Stevie's words in his mouth is just really puzzling to me.

i do agree with people who are saying that it's the label holding them back. we all know they won't make money from selling albums or new music. (i wonder whether they'll put out that first track just for free as a download like Lindsey did with title track of SWS?)

now if the tour doesn't sell, that will be a problem. i hope for them it does, but who knows considering the info about sales for some other acts...

I'm not putting words into Lindsey's moth. I think that because Lindsey himself said it.

But the guitarist and singer knows that new music isn't a priority for the band's fans.

"It wouldn't matter if they didn't hear anything new. In a way there's a freedom to that — it becomes not what you got, but what you do with what you got. Part of the challenge of this tour is figuring out a presentation that has some twists and turns to it without having a full album," he said.

http://online.wsj.com/article/AP43027acf07a0451cb1c32da72e758afb.html

And I mentioned the part about Stevie's opinions rubbing off on him because, like you said, I think at one point Lindsey did want to do new music, but she may have (unfortunately) convinced him otherwise.

elle
12-04-2012, 01:53 PM
And I mentioned the part about Stevie's opinions rubbing off on him because, like you said, I think at one point Lindsey did want to do new music, but she may have (unfortunately) convinced him otherwise.

yes, that one point was 2 weeks ago, from what i've heard. ;)

read her newest interview, she said they'll put out 2 songs, and then 2 more if the first 2 go over well, and then maybe more. seems like he may have done some convincing of his own ;)

WildHearted
12-04-2012, 01:54 PM
yes, that one point was 2 weeks ago, from what i've heard. ;)

I'd also like to point out that there's a difference between wanting to record new music, and thinking that people want to hear said new music. ;)

elle
12-04-2012, 01:55 PM
I'd also like to point out that there's a difference between wanting to record new music, and thinking that people want to hear said new music. ;)

agree. didn't SN said that LB told her he wants to put out new music because fans will know that they care? or something like that?

elle
12-04-2012, 02:37 PM
what's wrong with amazon, people??

"We wanted to have something to put out before we go out, January or February, in whatever way you do that -- iTunes or something," explains Nicks, who says she herself doesn't own a computer or spend time on the Internet. "And since nobody really cares about albums anymore, if you can come up with two or three great songs and just put them out there...people can at least hear how we sound today when it comes to actually recording."

http://www.billboard.com/news/fleetwood-mac-to-release-new-music-before-1008036952.story#/news/fleetwood-mac-to-release-new-music-before-1008036952.story

WildHearted
12-04-2012, 02:46 PM
Okay, they've been asked about new music in literally every single one of these interviews. I mean, I'm sure the interviewers were given direction...

but... OBVIOUSLY people care about albums.

Adele's '21' didn't sell 10 million copies because no one cares about albums. I mean, your odds of having a '21' (or another 'Rumours') are slim to none... but they're being so dramatic about it all. Just because you aren't going to sell 6 million copies doesn't mean no one cares about albums.

That said, I'd be quite content with and actually thrilled about getting a few songs from them on iTunes. I'll take what I can get.

CADreaming
12-04-2012, 03:29 PM
The point is they can't sell the numbers it would take to make money. You can't make money (any significant money) on recorded music. Joe Walsh said the same thing recently on the Daryl Hall show - no one can make any money at it anymore & the younger generation will have to figure out what to do about it.

Villavic
12-04-2012, 07:36 PM
A deluxe version of “Rumours” will come out with the tour and will include unreleased outtakes and live songs.

Another Rumours??? Ok, Rumours is my favorite album, but enough is enough. More outttakes from the Rumours sessions? :confused:
I think they have forgotten their other albums. Tango, Mirage (never re-released), the White. and of course Tusk. Sure there are also live recordings from the Tusk or Mirage tours not included in the 1980 Live album. But noooooo... it has to be.. RUMOURS!!!

It so ironic when I read Mick's book about his thoughts during 1978:

Fleetwood Mac now found itself whipped by backlash of all stripes. First there was the general backlash that perennially affects rock music's biggest acts. Ask Michael Jackson, Madonna, U2, Bruce Springsteen. How do you follow, let alone top, the best work you've ever done in your life, work that almost killed you to complete?

I guess they never asked anybody :rolleyes:

shackin'up
12-07-2012, 11:26 AM
Stevie and Lindsey both seem to think this (although, it could be that Stevie's opinions rubbed off on him).



I'm pretty convinced this is Stevie's point of view. Why the heck did Lindsey spent 6 weeks of recording 8 new tracks with Mick and John? To release two of them?......

WildHearted
12-07-2012, 11:50 AM
I'm pretty convinced this is Stevie's point of view. Why the heck did Lindsey spent 6 weeks of recording 8 new tracks with Mick and John? To release two of them?......

Hence why I said Stevie's opinion rubbed off on him... Lindsey just recently said himself that the fan's wouldn't care if they never released any new music. It's quoted somewhere in the press thread.

elle
12-07-2012, 11:56 AM
Hence why I said Stevie's opinion rubbed off on him... Lindsey just recently said himself that the fan's wouldn't care if they never released any new music. It's quoted somewhere in the press thread.

not this again. as you know well he was interviewed few times in the last week and said he really really wants to release a new FM album. so no SN opinions rubbed off on him. if anything he's giving these candid interviews to try to change her mind.

CADreaming
12-07-2012, 12:45 PM
so no SN opinions rubbed off on him.

Oh, really? The man's saying things like "traumatic splendor", writing about angels and trying hard to be her -- but her opinions haven't rubbed off him?? LOL. ;)

chiliD
12-07-2012, 01:00 PM
i do agree with people who are saying that it's the label holding them back. we all know they won't make money from selling albums or new music. (i wonder whether they'll put out that first track just for free as a download like Lindsey did with title track of SWS?)

What label? :shrug: They're free agents. Their last contract was a one album deal with WB...and the "one album" was SYW. There's no "label" TO hold them back. :nod:

CADreaming
12-07-2012, 01:09 PM
^That's right! They're Unleashed! Lol

The Catdancer
12-07-2012, 02:16 PM
Sure the fan base wants new stuff - unfortunately we aren't going to cause them to go platinum....

Also - priorities change as we're getting older too (had to put that in there). We have bills to pay, kids are growing up and go to college etc. About 20, 30 years ago we didn't have all those responsibilities. Some of us might not even know that there's a new album out on the market because our attention doesn't go there anymore because of that. I also blame the marketing people. The publicity in Europe is horrible. A friend of mine went to buy SWS and they didn't even know who Lindsey was. When she said Fleetwood Mac, they still didn't know and she had to spell his name. Luckily for her they had one copy. And that's another thing that drives people to illegally download: if the albums aren't for sale in some countries, people are going download it illegally because they want to hear it. Fleetwood Mac (or Stevie or Lindsey) albums aren't for sale everywhere, in some countries the albums aren't even released.

shackin'up
12-07-2012, 04:26 PM
I just hope that Lindsey has built out that incredible "new" intro to NGBA, into a whole song. everything is in there: melancholy, melody, to my ears a rich base for something that is called Sad Angel.

elle
12-12-2012, 12:10 AM
thought this would fit nicely in one of these threads about new albums and new songs on tour -

https://twitter.com/MikeMettler/status/278727735793315841/photo/1

CADreaming
12-12-2012, 07:45 AM
thought this would fit nicely in one of these threads about new albums and new songs on tour -

https://twitter.com/MikeMettler/status/278727735793315841/photo/1

Ha! Perfect!

louielouie2000
12-23-2012, 02:27 PM
We're coming up on 3 weeks now... where are these songs? :rolleyes:

mitzo
12-23-2012, 03:52 PM
We're coming up on 3 weeks now... where are these songs? :rolleyes:

These people really make it hard to stay a fan. Really, really hard.

Ulpian
12-24-2012, 09:42 AM
These people really make it hard to stay a fan. Really, really hard.

Amen. I am always amazed at what an absolute mess they make of their non-tour commercial / artistic projects now. Other bands with half their pull and power are more savvy and know how to please fans but also making it a worthwhile commercial exercise. I know that's what frustrates Mick, and I suspect it's because Lindsey doesn't care (fair enough) and Stevie sees her solo career as her cash cow (I think).

StandbackStevie
12-24-2012, 07:44 PM
It was a 2 album deal, caus the Live in Boston Soundstage dvd/cd was released on warner bros.2004 from the say you will tour.Rhino Records is releasing the Rumours Deluxe set I believe.I do believe they are free agents they can go to any label they want too know.

vivfox
12-28-2012, 08:39 AM
I had a dream last night that FM surprised us with their new single, but the real surprise was that it was a song by Rick Vito who apparently was still in the band! It was accomppined <(spelling??) by a video of the band performing it with one small catch. Stevie's part was played by a little boy and at the very end of the song the boy faded out and she was standing there with her tambourine in hand.

FierySequences
12-28-2012, 09:47 AM
I had a dream last night that FM surprised us with their new single, but the real surprise was that it was a song by Rick Vito who apparently was still in the band! It was accomppined <(spelling??) by a video of the band performing it with one small catch. Stevie's part was played by a little boy and at the very end of the song the boy faded out and she was standing there with her tambourine in hand.

were you listening to IYD by any chance last night? This reminds me of the mirror in which the little girls were saying "I am SN". As far as her being a lil boy...hmmm, well one might think back to the line "But if I was a child and the child was enough...."

I love it when SN/MAC incorporate the "next generation" in their music, such as SYW and the childrens hands picture.

Side note: If Stevie had used a boy in that video to say "I am SN", this would have been a nice touch for her to reach out to the LGBT community.

Not sure why RV was there, but possibly b/c he a good chemistry working with SN.

This dream reminding me that I had one in which I lost my luggage at the airport....and my FM tix was in it! Talk about a nightmare!

Josh2003
12-28-2012, 11:56 AM
When is everyone going to learn NOT to take everything that FM/its members say so literally? We'll get the new songs before the tour. Maybe next week, maybe next month. Calm down.

APerfectLie
12-28-2012, 08:28 PM
When is everyone going to learn NOT to take everything that FM/its members say so literally? We'll get the new songs before the tour. Maybe next week, maybe next month. Calm down.

Reminds me of: "It's only been one show! Calm down!" XD but totally agree. If a FM member says next two weeks, they mean possibly within the next two decades, but there is still a chance of never.

michelej1
12-28-2012, 08:44 PM
Reminds me of: "It's only been one show! Calm down!" XD but totally agree. If a FM member says next two weeks, they mean possibly within the next two decades, but there is still a chance of never.

The thing about Stevie is she likes to put a definite number on things and that kind of misleads the mind. It's like a brainwashing technique. She's like, "we worked from 10:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m." or "we played 178 dates." When she says something and makes it sound so definite, you believe what she said, even when you know she's highly prone to error. I mean, when she says "I wrote this four years ago," you tend to think exactly four years ago. Whereas, if she says a few years ago, your mind doesn't try to pin down a date.

You know you shouldn't place any reliance on it, but when someone throws out a definite time frame, you kind of swallow it hook, line and sinker.

Michele

WildHearted
12-28-2012, 09:25 PM
The thing about Stevie is she likes to put a definite number on things and that kind of misleads the mind. It's like a brainwashing technique. She's like, "we worked from 10:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m." or "we played 178 dates." When she says something and makes it sound so definite, you believe what she said, even when you know she's highly prone to error. I mean, when she says "I wrote this four years ago," you tend to think exactly four years ago. Whereas, if she says a few years ago, your mind doesn't try to pin down a date.

You know you shouldn't place any reliance on it, but when someone throws out a definite time frame, you kind of swallow it hook, line and sinker.

Michele

This is so true. She does this all the time, and yet, her numbers are often completely wrong :lol: I really should stop believing her.

Johnny Stew
12-28-2012, 10:33 PM
There have been so many interviews and articles over the past few weeks, that I can't keep track -- were Stevie or Lindsey ever directly quoted that a song was being released in "two weeks?"

The only direct quote I remember, was something about "between now and the start of the tour." But I can't even remember which of them said it.

paleshadow
12-29-2012, 08:25 AM
Lindsey probably mentioned he had songs coming out on the This is 40 soundtrack in an interview and somehow it was misprinted that "Fleetwood Mac" had songs out in 2 weeks. The timing would have been about right.

elle
12-29-2012, 12:20 PM
Lindsey probably mentioned he had songs coming out on the This is 40 soundtrack in an interview and somehow it was misprinted that "Fleetwood Mac" had songs out in 2 weeks. The timing would have been about right.

good guess as he had those 3 This is 40 soundtrack come out at the beginning of dec, but the talk actually was about 2 FM songs that SN also worked on in his studio.

i'm not sure whether there was a 2-week timeline mentioned, but i think both LB and SN mentioned that first of the 2 songs would come out before the end of 2012 or at the start of 2013 (doesn't seem to be happening lol!), and the second one to coincide with the start of the tour in April.

ShangriLaTroubl
12-31-2012, 01:32 PM
It was a 2 album deal, caus the Live in Boston Soundstage dvd/cd was released on warner bros.2004 from the say you will tour.Rhino Records is releasing the Rumours Deluxe set I believe.I do believe they are free agents they can go to any label they want too know.

I think they will still release these two songs (if they do) with Warners. With digital music, they don't have to sign an "album contract" like the old days. They can easily write up a contract just to release these two songs as sort of an online EP. Stevie said in the recent Yahoo interview that the songs will be released between December and the beginning of the tour. The band itself never said they would be released immediately. I'm sure, if they do release them at all, it will be closer to the beginning of the tour for momentum purposes.

I think the big question at this point is one that we have gotten conflicting information. Some articles have suggested that Lindsey is doing lead vocals, while others (specifically the recent Yahoo article) have suggested that Stevie is doing the majority of the vocals. We know they were both written by Lindsey, but it seems he wrote them (or at least one of them) with Stevie in mind as the lead singer.

Bandon
12-31-2012, 02:26 PM
There have been so many interviews and articles over the past few weeks, that I can't keep track -- were Stevie or Lindsey ever directly quoted that a song was being released in "two weeks?"

The only direct quote I remember, was something about "between now and the start of the tour." But I can't even remember which of them said it.

Live Music
Fleetwood Mac announce new music, 2013 tour
Stevie Nicks talks with MSN Music about the band's upcoming tour and when their new songs will be available
By MSN Music Staff Dec 3, 2012 5:17PM

By Mark Brown
Special to MSN Music

It was hardly the world’s best-kept secret. Lindsey Buckingham told MSN Music last year that he was looking forward to a Fleetwood Mac tour, and Stevie Nicks basically said the same thing on TV earlier this year.

But now it’s a reality, with the 34-city tour kicking off on April 4 and tickets going on sale as early as Friday, Dec. 14. And that’s not all. A deluxe version of “Rumours” will come out with the tour and will include unreleased outtakes and live songs. Plus, the band – Buckingham, Nicks, Mick Fleetwood and John McVie – has recorded two new songs to be released before the tour – one in just a few weeks.


Here is the original link: http://social.entertainment.msn.com/music/blogs/live-music-blogpost.aspx?post=314f410a-27c2-4a57-b32f-5d3f42a10aca

Johnny Stew
12-31-2012, 02:55 PM
Thank you for sharing that, Bandon. I appreciate it, but I'm looking for a direct quote from one of the Maccers. Something straight from Stevie's or Lindsey's mouth that a song was supposed to be released in two weeks.

Bandon
12-31-2012, 03:58 PM
Thank you for sharing that, Bandon. I appreciate it, but I'm looking for a direct quote from one of the Maccers. Something straight from Stevie's or Lindsey's mouth that a song was supposed to be released in two weeks.

I interpreted the "a few weeks" as two weeks, however, the term "a few" to others may be longer. Who knows? My guess is there should be a new tune out by January 15th. Fingers crossed. :nod:

WildHearted
12-31-2012, 04:23 PM
I interpreted the "a few weeks" as two weeks, however, the term "a few" to others may be longer. Who knows? My guess is there should be a new tune out by January 15th. Fingers crossed. :nod:

A couple is 2, a few is 3, and 4 would be a month. That's how I'd say it anyway.

:thumbsup:

I just hope we get these songs AT SOME point in the near future. I'm itching to hear them. And yes, the slight discrepancy about the vocals is intriguing.

SteveMacD
01-10-2013, 12:56 AM
I'm excited that they did the new recordings with Mitchell Froom. It makes me optimistic for new Fleetwood Mac music. I'm a HUGE fan of what he did with Richard Thompson on RT's "Rumor and Sigh" and "Mirror Blue". I could easily hear how it could translate with Fleetwood Mac.

I Feel So Good (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziABOSERPXc)

I Misunderstood (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAaTGyBb_iM)

Grey Walls (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dReqM8-zOo)

Vincent Black Lightning 1952 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7bXBOfgvJ4)

Keep Your Distance (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4mU9Wh8yRs)

The Way That It Shows (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-XZ5XUtTto)

Matt Lucas
01-14-2013, 03:32 PM
I'm excited that they did the new recordings with Mitchell Froom. It makes me optimistic for new Fleetwood Mac music. I'm a HUGE fan of what he did with Richard Thompson on RT's "Rumor and Sigh" and "Mirror Blue". I could easily hear how it could translate with Fleetwood Mac.

I Feel So Good (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziABOSERPXc)

I Misunderstood (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAaTGyBb_iM)

Grey Walls (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dReqM8-zOo)

Vincent Black Lightning 1952 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7bXBOfgvJ4)

Keep Your Distance (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4mU9Wh8yRs)

The Way That It Shows (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-XZ5XUtTto)

It's my understanding that a lot of diehard Richard Thompson fans were not exactly happy with Froom's production, which was certainly more classic pop-sounding [think Beatles and Brian Wilson] than they expected. Thompson comes from a more folk background, so having mulitple layers of overdubs was probably a shock to some of his fans. I loved those records he did with Froom, though.

Froom has created some career-best records with a variety of artists. Check out these:

Los Lobos - Dream in Blue
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dI60ea-sRJo

Los Lobos - Wicked Rain
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQIqeMJYdHU

Los Lobos - Kiko and the Lavender Moon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ornSpLMUzbw

Missy Higgins - Where I Stood
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCLERYzJsYA

Crowded House - Into Temptation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MXKZUX8XgY

Crowded House - Better Be Home Soon [Froom plays the Hammond organ solo]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOenp3MUnh0

Crowded House - It's Only Natural
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVSFz6KFkaM

Crowded House - Instinct [this isn't among my favorite CH tunes, but several friends have told me that the groove reminds them of Fleetwood Mac, probably because of the bassline]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soaaFuIGolc

Paul McCartney - My Brave Face
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rJ2LRxzxbI

Elvis Costello - So Like Candy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBKGQaSFEjE

Bonnie Raitt - Lovers Will
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpIfS5FYvCU

Bonnie Raitt - Round and Round
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehAhyEFmdGs

Phantom Planet - California
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wq-S8CIU7VA

Suzanne Vega - Blood Makes Noise
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6qvIhygLTs

Finn Brothers - Part of Me, Part of You
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dc-9ZJ7ksAI

Froom is a fantastic keyboardist and a very talented arranger, too. Perhaps best of all, he's not afraid to challenge the artists with whom he works to bring their best. In other words, he's not a "yes man," and he's great at finding common ground with the artist.

matt

Gene
01-16-2013, 12:39 PM
Why isn't Lindsey producing?

KarmaContestant
01-16-2013, 01:10 PM
Why isn't Lindsey producing?

I think Stevie doesn't want to work with FM at all if Lindsey is producing. Speculating here, but I would say she feels it gives him too much power over the album making process, and his input on her material overwhelms her own feelings and opinions.

A third party producer allows her to have equal footing with Lindsey in the studio.

louielouie2000
01-16-2013, 01:11 PM
Why isn't Lindsey producing?

I assume it's a way to lure Stevie into the studio as she was pretty displeased with what became of her songs on Say You Will. Lindsey has also stated he doesn't want to produce any future Mac albums because the amount of time required would take him away from his family too many hours in the day.

Matt Lucas
01-16-2013, 01:20 PM
Why isn't Lindsey producing?

Good question.

It's always good to have someone else to bounce ideas off of, particularly, as is Lindsey's case, when the producer is also the artist.

Lindsey worked with Jon Brion on the recent THIS IS 40 tracks, he used Rob Cavallo and John Shanks as producers on SAY YOU WILL, and Richard Dashut was co-prodcuer on many Mac records and on OUT OF THE CRADLE.

So, it's not unusual at all that he's working with Froom on the new tracks, but Lindsey sounds as if he enjoyed working with him:

http://social.entertainment.msn.com/music/blogs/reverb-blogpost.aspx?post=77efe57a-010c-4475-8d4e-97e3d1cb867d

How did you hook up with Mitchell Froom?

“I had never met Mitchell but spoke with him on the phone. I like the guy. I like some of his reference points that I was aware of. I also knew he was a very skillful string-arranger in case we wanted anything more outside the box like that. And to top it off he lives about five minutes from me. We did this whole thing in a very handcrafted way. I’d go into his house and gave him all my rough demos first, some of which were fleshed out, others just snippets of things hummed into my phone….we sort of agreed on what songs we’d do, worked on arrangements. We had the whole thing worked out before John and Mick showed up. Then it was pretty organic. It was interesting for him – the peculiarity of how we do things… for three weeks we came up with all that’s stuff. It’s all very pop. It hearkens back to the Fleetwood Mac classic feel. And John and Mick were just playing their asses off.”

Okay, so here's something interesting: Lindsey claims to have never met Froom, but Mitch is credited with playing organ on "Turn it On" from CRADLE.

Hmmm...?

matt

SteveMacD
01-16-2013, 04:14 PM
Okay, so here's something interesting: Lindsey claims to have never met Froom, but Mitch is credited with playing organ on "Turn it On" from CRADLE.
That is curious. My guess is that it could be something that was done post-production, and he wasn't there for it. Like how Lindsey played on the song "Behind The Mask", but Rick Vito only met Lindsey for the first time at the second-to-the-last BTM tour date.

wetcamelfood
01-16-2013, 04:24 PM
That is curious. My guess is that it could be something that was done post-production, and he wasn't there for it. Like how Lindsey played on the song "Behind The Mask", but Rick Vito only met Lindsey for the first time at the second-to-the-last BTM tour date.

I guess, but I'd be surprised if LB allowed someone to come in last second and change/add something without hearing it before it's release.

John

shackin'up
01-16-2013, 04:45 PM
Maybe Dashut recorded some parts with Froom, that, in a later stadium, was used by Lindsey in the definitive version. remember, he's a windowdresser, not a songwriter. :cool:

UndoingTheLaces
01-16-2013, 07:36 PM
Any news on the two new songs yet?

nightbird28
01-21-2013, 06:54 AM
I was on Ultimate Classic Rock and they had two if the three song titles. Sad Angela and Miss Fantasy.

shackin'up
01-21-2013, 12:32 PM
I'm Pretty sure they will wait with the new songs untill the Rumours luxury cashcow has arrived and had It's peak. So no new songs untill the first week of march, is my guess.

Macfanforever
01-21-2013, 12:46 PM
I'm sorry to be negative .Why bother with new tunes.Radio will ignore them like they did with Stevie's IYD tunes.If the new tunes do get some airplay .They will only survive for about 3 weeks and end up getting lost with the mix of younger artists on the playlist.Forgot the top 40 stations.

Probably will hear it more on the River formatted stations plus some classic rock stations.

Hawkeye
01-21-2013, 01:09 PM
I'm sorry to be negative .Why bother with new tunes.Radio will ignore them like they did with Stevie's IYD tunes.If the new tunes do get some airplay .They will only survive for about 3 weeks and end up getting lost with the mix of younger artists on the playlist.Forgot the top 40 stations.

Probably will hear it more on the River formatted stations plus some classic rock stations.

So your the voice in Stevie's head.

Macfanforever
01-21-2013, 03:41 PM
So your the voice in Stevie's head.

Hahahaha.LOL.

I just sense this with her.

I just feel so sorry for her for having one or two big hits on any charts.

Pretty please let her have one hit please.

She's not the only one .Some older artists and bands have luck and some don't.

WildHearted
01-21-2013, 04:19 PM
I'm sorry to be negative .Why bother with new tunes.Radio will ignore them like they did with Stevie's IYD tunes.If the new tunes do get some airplay .They will only survive for about 3 weeks and end up getting lost with the mix of younger artists on the playlist.Forgot the top 40 stations.

Probably will hear it more on the River formatted stations plus some classic rock stations.

I don't understand the pre-occupation with how much the radio will play the new music.

I mean, I definitely see that that would be a concern for people like the record label and the band, because radio = exposure and money etc...

But as far as us fans go - who cares?

If I have it on my iPod/computer/CD I don't need to hear it on the radio. I just want to HEAR new music period.

Now, I get being disappointed that songs you like don't get a bunch of attention and aren't honored by the media/critics in the way you think they deserve to be. Especially if it has a bearing on that artist putting out future material. But let's be honest - If they put out new music, whether it's just these 2 songs, or maybe an EP/LP if we're lucky... this will likely be the last time. I don't foresee there being a follow-up. So I say just enjoy it and not worry about how it's charting. Or how it will chart if they release it. I'm just worried about them actually releasing it.

Macfanforever
01-21-2013, 04:37 PM
I don't understand the pre-occupation with how much the radio will play the new music.

I mean, I definitely see that that would be a concern for people like the record label and the band, because radio = exposure and money etc...

But as far as us fans go - who cares?

If I have it on my iPod/computer/CD I don't need to hear it on the radio. I just want to HEAR new music period.

Now, I get being disappointed that songs you like don't get a bunch of attention and aren't honored by the media/critics in the way you think they deserve to be. Especially if it has a bearing on that artist putting out future material. But let's be honest - If they put out new music, whether it's just these 2 songs, or maybe an EP/LP if we're lucky... this will likely be the last time. I don't foresee there being a follow-up. So I say just enjoy it and not worry about how it's charting. Or how it will chart if they release it. I'm just worried about them actually releasing it.

I see what you are saying. I agree on the new music.

I dont care what it is .Even rap to that matter.


LOL The Fleetwood Mac Rap.

BLY
01-21-2013, 05:23 PM
Just give us new music.... Radio? Who cares or listens to radio. This is 2013.

Macfanforever
01-21-2013, 10:47 PM
Just give us new music.... Radio? Who cares or listens to radio. This is 2013.

I agree even more.

Now I only listen to the radio for the news,weather and traffic reports.

Villavic
01-22-2013, 10:39 AM
I'm sorry to be negative .Why bother with new tunes.Radio will ignore them like they did with Stevie's IYD tunes.If the new tunes do get some airplay .They will only survive for about 3 weeks and end up getting lost with the mix of younger artists on the playlist.Forgot the top 40 stations.

Probably will hear it more on the River formatted stations plus some classic rock stations.

I agree with Wildhearted. Besides, apart from the joy of we the fans, this shows it was worth it, or not? :

In Your Dreams:
Chart (2011) Peak posiltion
US Billboard Top Rock Albums: 3
US Billboard 200: 6

billwebster
01-22-2013, 02:20 PM
It's great to hear they are actually going to release something new at this point in time, or rather near-ish to this point in time.

However, I'd very much like to hear all 8 new songs right away, in one go. Why do they intend to spoon-feed them to their audience?

Here's hoping they can get another 2 new songs from Stevie and put out an album.

Also, all these new songs need to be released in a lossless format, and in a physical format, on CD preferrably, even if that's just distributed by mailorder.
They are too big a band not to put out a CD.

Mitchell Froom is a great choice as their producer. Recently, he has been doing excellent stuff.

The album he produced for this young singer called Stevie Ann from the Netherlands is amazing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-dyUeVYSNM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06eugansj0A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39T9DzHoQWc

Macfanforever
01-22-2013, 03:26 PM
I agree with Wildhearted. Besides, apart from the joy of we the fans, this shows it was worth it, or not? :

In Your Dreams:
Chart (2011) Peak posiltion
US Billboard Top Rock Albums: 3
US Billboard 200: 6


Thanks for the update on IYD CD I did not realize it got that high.



It's great to hear they are actually going to release something new at this point in time, or rather near-ish to this point in time.

However, I'd very much like to hear all 8 new songs right away, in one go. Why do they intend to spoon-feed them to their audience?

Here's hoping they can get another 2 new songs from Stevie and put out an album.

Also, all these new songs need to be released in a lossless format, and in a physical format, on CD preferrably, even if that's just distributed by mailorder.
They are too big a band not to put out a CD.

Mitchell Froom is a great choice as their producer. Recently, he has been doing excellent stuff.

The album he produced for this young singer called Stevie Ann from the Netherlands is amazing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-dyUeVYSNM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06eugansj0A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39T9DzHoQWc

They can cut a deal with Walmart to put out a hard copy of the new tunes.Screw Icrap and Amazon.

billwebster
01-22-2013, 04:17 PM
They can cut a deal with Walmart to put out a hard copy of the new tunes.Screw Icrap and Amazon.

I hope they do. But for doing that, all the new songs must be released. Here's even more hoping they do that.