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michelej1
10-13-2012, 08:10 PM
[Aye, that Cornish-born laddie]
Express Co.uk Sunday October 14,2012
By James Desborough
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/351951/Fleetwood-Mac-hit-the-road
SUPERGROUP Fleetwood Mac are planning a world tour next year after reforming for a series of concerts following months of wrangling between drummer Mick Fleetwood and singer Stevie Nicks.
The rock giants are hitting the road to mark the 45th anniversary of the release of the band’s first album, with a different line-up, in 1968.
Singer Stevie Nicks has agreed to reunite with Lindsey Buckingham, Mick Fleetwood and John McVie. British singer Christine McVie is not expected to sign up.
Last night a spokesman for Nicks confirmed plans for the tour: “It’s certainly looking that way. I don’t have specifics yet.”
The group may even record new material for a proposed greatest hits release.
A source in Los Angeles said: “The Fleetwood Mac tour is on. This may be the end of the road for them after so many great years. They are all older and getting together can be a struggle with their commitments. They all want to go out on a bang.”
Fleetwood Mac, famous for hits single like Don’t Stop, Dreams and Rhiannon and albums Rumours and Tusk, have not performed since 2009.
That prompted a media battle between Nicks and Cornish-born Fleetwood, 65.
However Nicks, 64, told a US TV show a tour was on the cards for 2013. She said: “It’s the plan. Because that’s what we do.”
louielouie2000
10-13-2012, 08:32 PM
A source in Los Angeles said: “The Fleetwood Mac tour is on. This may be the end of the road for them after so many great years. They are all older and getting together can be a struggle with their commitments. They all want to go out on a bang.”
This is the first time I've ever heard such talk. Sounds like pure uninformed here-say to me. :rolleyes:
mezzoforte
10-13-2012, 08:37 PM
[Aye, that Cornish-born laddie]
Express Co.uk Sunday October 14,2012
By James Desborough
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/351951/Fleetwood-Mac-hit-the-road
SUPERGROUP Fleetwood Mac are planning a world tour next year after reforming for a series of concerts following months of wrangling between drummer Mick Fleetwood and singer Stevie Nicks.
The rock giants are hitting the road to mark the 45th anniversary of the release of the band’s first album, with a different line-up, in 1968.
Singer Stevie Nicks has agreed to reunite with Lindsey Buckingham, Mick Fleetwood and John McVie. British singer Christine McVie is not expected to sign up.
Last night a spokesman for Nicks confirmed plans for the tour: “It’s certainly looking that way. I don’t have specifics yet.”
The group may even record new material for a proposed greatest hits release.
A source in Los Angeles said: “The Fleetwood Mac tour is on. This may be the end of the road for them after so many great years. They are all older and getting together can be a struggle with their commitments. They all want to go out on a bang.”
Fleetwood Mac, famous for hits single like Don’t Stop, Dreams and Rhiannon and albums Rumours and Tusk, have not performed since 2009.
That prompted a media battle between Nicks and Cornish-born Fleetwood, 65.
However Nicks, 64, told a US TV show a tour was on the cards for 2013. She said: “It’s the plan. Because that’s what we do.”
I'm pretty skeptical since there isn't actually a quote about that.
Stevie hasn't made a peep about the possibility of recording with FM, while she is already talking about recording another solo project with Dave...
KindOfWoman90
10-13-2012, 09:05 PM
This is the first time I've ever heard such talk. Sounds like pure uninformed here-say to me. :rolleyes:
Entirely agree! Personally, I think as long as Stevie doesn't get too caught up in another project they could do another tour or two after next year. I hate articles like this... Nothing helpful lol :p
michelej1
10-13-2012, 10:46 PM
Well, we need to know who is the "spokesman for Nicks" and the "source in Los Angeles." Is it Liz or whom? Is the same person the spokesman and the source?
Michele
SteveMacD
10-14-2012, 02:06 AM
I love it when they say "this could be the end of the road for Fleetwood Mac", because they've been saying that ever since Peter Green quit over 42 years ago.
wetcamelfood
10-14-2012, 08:22 AM
I love it when they say "this could be the end of the road for Fleetwood Mac", because they've been saying that ever since Peter Green quit over 42 years ago.
Yeah really, hyperbole at it's finest. Pepole rag on the Cher's of the world that have a "final" tour then they're back next year making that tour a lie yet every FM tour since '97 should have been called the "no we really mean it this time" last tour. :rolleyes
John
CADreaming
10-14-2012, 09:34 AM
Well, we need to know who is the "spokesman for Nicks" and the "source in Los Angeles." Is it Liz or whom? Is the same person the spokesman and the source?
Michele
Exactly. I hate this kind of reporting. It reeks of tabloid.
APerfectLie
10-15-2012, 05:51 AM
Apparently Stevie just said this in an interview.. record some new songs as well.
"Well, actually, maybe like two songs, maybe four, who knows?" she says. "We don't really know yet 'cause we're not in the world of Fleetwood Mac yet." But, she reveals that Lindsey Buckingham "has a song," and adds, "I have a song that didn't make the Buckingham-Nicks album that I really love. So, I'm gonna suggest that."
Peestie
10-15-2012, 06:17 AM
Apparently Stevie just said this in an interview.. record some new songs as well.
"Well, actually, maybe like two songs, maybe four, who knows?" she says. "We don't really know yet 'cause we're not in the world of Fleetwood Mac yet." But, she reveals that Lindsey Buckingham "has a song," and adds, "I have a song that didn't make the Buckingham-Nicks album that I really love. So, I'm gonna suggest that."
This worries me. Why does she have to go back as far as Buckingham-Nicks?! She must have some stuff that's more recent. If it didn't make BN or any of her albums with FM (never mind her solo stuff) then why would it be good enough now? She wrote some great stuff for SYW so why go back almost 4 decades instead of writing something new?
WildHearted
10-15-2012, 07:56 AM
This worries me. Why does she have to go back as far as Buckingham-Nicks?! She must have some stuff that's more recent. If it didn't make BN or any of her albums with FM (never mind her solo stuff) then why would it be good enough now? She wrote some great stuff for SYW so why go back almost 4 decades instead of writing something new?
My guess would be the BN anniversary, first and foremost. Beyond that, she probably wants to save new material for her new solo album w/Dave... :/
Do you guys think this would be one of the live tracks or the demos we have (heart breaker, you wont forget me, without you, etc)? Or would those all have been written post-BN?
CADreaming
10-15-2012, 08:20 AM
No, Stevie has tons of material -- & that's another reason to go back that far - it's not that the songs weren't good enough to go on an album, it's that there's just too many!!
I agree, she wants to pull a BN era song for the anniversary. :) :blob2:
^Wildhearted, all of those are BN songs that they were working on prior to FM's offer to join.
TrueFaith77
10-15-2012, 10:30 AM
Morrissey's last greatest hits album had two new tracks. Those two new tracks appeared on his following studio album. It turned out to be a genius proposition. Let's hope that happens here too. :D
louielouie2000
10-15-2012, 10:48 AM
I still don't get why there's a need for another compilation package. We have Greatest Hits ('88); The Chain ('90); The Very Best Of Fleetwood Mac ('02); and you could arguably throw in things like The Dance ('97) & possibly Live ('80) & Live In Boston ('04). Not to mention the digital remasters of Fleetwood Mac, Rumours, and Tusk (and the Rumours 5.1 audio). Exactly how much more does Fleetwood Mac need to flog it's back catalogue? :shrug:
WildHearted
10-15-2012, 11:00 AM
I still don't get why there's a need for another compilation package. We have Greatest Hits ('88); The Chain ('90); The Very Best Of Fleetwood Mac ('02); and you could arguably throw in things like The Dance ('97) & possibly Live ('80) & Live In Boston ('04). Not to mention the digital remasters of Fleetwood Mac, Rumours, and Tusk (and the Rumours 5.1 audio). Exactly how much more does Fleetwood Mac need to flog it's back catalogue? :shrug:
I have the feeling it might be a greatest hits in the vein of celebrating Lindsey and Stevie's ~40 years of music, and what have you.
Unnecessary, yes. Doesn't exactly make sense in context of FM really. But a potential reason none the less. And also a reason for $$$. And it gives them something to tour behind, somewhat.
michelej1
10-15-2012, 01:54 PM
[Sounds like things have already been pushed back by a month]
NME October 15, 2012 17:00
http://www.nme.com/news/fleetwood-mac/66648
Fleetwood Mac confirm details of reunion tour, hint at new material in 2013
Stevie Nicks says band will be on the road from April
Stevie Nicks has confirmed that Fleetwood Mac will embark on a reunion tour from April next year.
The band behind iconic 1977 album 'Rumours' put an end to months of speculation by confirming their reunion, with Nicks also revealing the band are in talks about recording new music to coincide with the live dates.
Speaking to ABC News Radio, Nicks said: "We go into rehearsals somewhere around the end of February. So... if everything goes to plan, we should probably be out [on the road] by end of April [or] May, I would think."
Nicks added that the reunited group are working on new music, though nothing is official yet.Well, actually, maybe like two songs, maybe four, who knows? We don't really know yet 'cos we're not in the world of Fleetwood Mac yet. We're just still in talks about that.
Fleetwood Mac are one of a number of names rumoured to be headlining Glastonbury when the festival returns. Speaking to NME about the rumours, festival organiser Emily Eavis said: "I think Fleetwood Mac would be amazing to get, I’ll be totally honest we haven’t had any conversations with them yet but, you know, it is still early days. We’re just talking to some headliners now. For us it’s about getting the balance of heritage bands, legends and new bands – just keeping that balance."
Well, honestly, I prefer the remastered versions of Mirage, and Tango In The Night, with some B-Sides and rare songs, you know what I mean...
And...another Greatest Hits??? Don't hit me, but I think we'll see again the same songs, and only one from the last albums, and their firsts. I know Time was really bad, but they could include at least one song. From Behind the Mask, is enough, two or three songs (even when I know As long as you follow was not there), but they can put more songs from Say You Will (Say you will, Peacekeeper, Say Goodbye, Murro, etc.), and from the old albums, from the 1971-1974 era...
Regards!
The rock giants are hitting the road to mark the 45th anniversary of the release of the band’s first album, with a different line-up, in 1968.
Grasping at straws to come up with a reason to go out with no new material to promote? That makes absolutely no sense.
Fannymac
10-15-2012, 04:31 PM
I still don't get why there's a need for another compilation package. We have Greatest Hits ('88); The Chain ('90); The Very Best Of Fleetwood Mac ('02); and you could arguably throw in things like The Dance ('97) & possibly Live ('80) & Live In Boston ('04). Not to mention the digital remasters of Fleetwood Mac, Rumours, and Tusk (and the Rumours 5.1 audio). Exactly how much more does Fleetwood Mac need to flog it's back catalogue? :shrug:
Totally, TOTALLY agree.....the LAST thing we need is another hits package! (But, then, I also feel that way about another tour!!!!) If they REALLY want to go out on top, do a KILLER album that they can REALLY be proud of! I say do a great new album now, then do another new one in 2016/2017 in honor of their 50th anniversary, with anyone who has ever been in FM guesting on various tracks!
THEN they can "wrap it up!"
Spikey
10-15-2012, 06:18 PM
Grasping at straws to come up with a reason to go out with no new material to promote? That makes absolutely no sense.
I think the journalist came up with that one, i doubt Stevie mentioned 1968 45th anniv. Just a silly one-liner to go to print with, which makes no sense.
any new material would be very nice.
i don't really get why people are saying they'd rather get remastered old material than new material?
bunch of other dinosaur bands are touring / milking what they can get so FM doing the same makes sense (although i personally may not like it). however, most of these other old bands don't seem to have a problem pulling together and putting out some new material within something like a 2-month window between deciding to tour and the start of whatever greatest hits tour they are doing at the time. why can't macsters? (all those "we have different managers/lawyers/we can't get along" crap seems like some kind of cover... other bands also have members who can't stand each other but they still pull together when they need to, and go their separate ways afterwards.)
putting out new material makes it clear that artist / band still have something to say and are relevant; touring makes money. i don't know that anybody makes money of releases anymore, so not sure why would that need to be the goal of a new release (if that's what they expect, i'd have to say either the whole band, band members holding out, or the band management is stuck in the past).
putting out old + unreleased BN material would make sense to celebrate 40 years of BN, although shouldn't necessarily be a part of the new Mac project. but, i'd take any material from SN if i get some new LB songs in the process too.
just my opinion.
Spikey
10-15-2012, 06:38 PM
Oh, yeah, remasters are way less important than new material!!
Mirage could do with it but Tango sounds fine for the most.. I mean, you can get some amazing vinyl rips via torrents anyway, for both.
New music is where it's at, especially with LB at his musical peak and SN sounding way better than she did circa SYW.
Etisl
10-15-2012, 06:53 PM
Well, honestly, I prefer the remastered versions of Mirage, and Tango In The Night, with some B-Sides and rare songs, you know what I mean...
And...another Greatest Hits??? Don't hit me, but I think we'll see again the same songs, and only one from the last albums, and their firsts. I know Time was really bad, but they could include at least one song. From Behind the Mask, is enough, two or three songs (even when I know As long as you follow was not there), but they can put more songs from Say You Will (Say you will, Peacekeeper, Say Goodbye, Murro, etc.), and from the old albums, from the 1971-1974 era...
Regards!
On the other hand, maybe this would be great opportunity to release remastered versions of Mirage, Tango, and the Live album. Along with the new package CD, .............
OK, maybe it's just a dream. But it would be cool......also, maybe officially release the Mirage tour on DVD and the Tusk documentary...
louielouie2000
10-15-2012, 07:05 PM
Totally, TOTALLY agree.....the LAST thing we need is another hits package! (But, then, I also feel that way about another tour!!!!) If they REALLY want to go out on top, do a KILLER album that they can REALLY be proud of! I say do a great new album now, then do another new one in 2016/2017 in honor of their 50th anniversary, with anyone who has ever been in FM guesting on various tracks!
THEN they can "wrap it up!"
Who knows, maybe they will have such a good time recording these purported 2-4 new songs, that it will spin into a new album.
any new material would be very nice.
i don't really get why people are saying they'd rather get remastered old material than new material?
putting out new material makes it clear that artist / band still have something to say and are relevant; touring makes money. i don't know that anybody makes money of releases anymore, so not sure why would that need to be the goal of a new release (if that's what they expect, i'd have to say either the whole band, band members holding out, or the band management is stuck in the past).
This. Fleetwood Mac has been an oldies touring act for so long... I can't stomach any more of that. Stevie & Lindsey are recording the best material of their lives in their solo projects... I just know there's still chemistry in between them, and that with Mick & John, there is still great Mac music to be had. I just wish they'd all give it a chance & go into it with a clean slate.
PenguinHead
10-15-2012, 08:16 PM
On the other hand, maybe this would be great opportunity to release remastered versions of Mirage, Tango, and the Live album. Along with the new package CD, .............
OK, maybe it's just a dream. But it would be cool......also, maybe officially release the Mirage tour on DVD and the Tusk documentary...
Yes! If they are going to re-rehash their back catalog, please, at least give us these (what you said).
And if they feel so compelled to give us another compilation collection, make it worth our while! I'd love to have a well-done, updated box set. The Chain was OK, but it could have been much better in regard to content and presentation. Make it an epic box set with mostly alternative tracks and mixes, rare demos and unreleased songs, a big chunk of new songs and lots of live performances, and a dazzling graphic book of essays, photos, and accurate notations. It should be an extension of their body of work, and not another reiteration.
WildHearted
10-15-2012, 09:49 PM
Who knows, maybe they will have such a good time recording these purported 2-4 new songs, that it will spin into a new album.
This. Fleetwood Mac has been an oldies touring act for so long... I can't stomach any more of that. Stevie & Lindsey are recording the best material of their lives in their solo projects... I just know there's still chemistry in between them, and that with Mick & John, there is still great Mac music to be had. I just wish they'd all give it a chance & go into it with a clean slate.
I agree wholeheartedly.
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A box set or a re-re-release of ALL the discography is not a bad idea. Well, Pink Floyd made that, why not FM?
I agree, The Chain can be renewed, and we know they have lots and lots of material. So what we could see? Extended versions, alternate mixes, more Stevie/Lindsey solo songs live, maybe more from the 1968-1974 era, and, as I said before, more from Say You Will, and at least one song from Time.
We'll be waiting...
Regards!
starshine
10-16-2012, 06:04 PM
Well, honestly, I prefer the remastered versions of Mirage, and Tango In The Night, with some B-Sides and rare songs, you know what I mean...
And...another Greatest Hits??? Don't hit me, but I think we'll see again the same songs, and only one from the last albums, and their firsts. I know Time was really bad, but they could include at least one song. From Behind the Mask, is enough, two or three songs (even when I know As long as you follow was not there), but they can put more songs from Say You Will (Say you will, Peacekeeper, Say Goodbye, Murro, etc.), and from the old albums, from the 1971-1974 era...
Regards!I agree with you...We don't need another GH's for the upteenth time. I'd love me some more Masters /re-issues etc same for Stevie its such a shame they won't even try to do these even in limited editions ---same for there video's I'll never ever understand them ever. I guess we'll keep dreaming cause I don't its gonna ever happen. How sad IMO anyway:shrug:
mikephxaz
10-16-2012, 09:26 PM
[QUOTE=moon;1065824]Well, honestly, ... with some B-Sides and rare songs, you know what I mean...
I love the idea of FM releasing b-sides and rare songs, etc...it wouldnt be just another greatest hits package...
TrueFaith77
10-17-2012, 12:30 PM
I think the greatest hits should be just Lindsey/Stevie singles during which Lindsey/Stevie were around, including BN singles ... and maybe even including "Twister".
BombaySapphire3
10-17-2012, 12:58 PM
I think the greatest hits should be just Lindsey/Stevie singles during which Lindsey/Stevie were around, including BN singles ... and maybe even including "Twister".
Would probably never happen since Christine had as many top 20 singles in Fleetwood Mac as Lindsey and Stevie combined and if you go top 40 she beats them 10 to 8.Although at this point I would think most of the casual boomer fans that the hits collections are geared toward are pretty well saturated .Leaving only the diehards (us) who they presume will buy anything.:shrug:
But if it's going to be about Lindsey/Stevie solo songs, they should include some Chris songs too. Temporary One, or another from her solo career that she performed with the band, or not. Temporary One is not a bad choice, is recent, is new, but I don't know if they should ask Chris for her songs, reading again that she has nothing to do with that FM will do in 2013.
Regards!
Fannymac
10-17-2012, 01:43 PM
Yeah....we can FINALLY have "Ricky" on CD!!!:blob2:
chiliD
10-17-2012, 03:38 PM
It just irks the hell out of me that every time Fleetwood Mac talks about touring it becomes a "reunion tour". :mad: They really never went away or SAID they were broken up...they're just on hiatus. Coming back from a hiatus is NOT a "reunion". Now, if Peter Green & Jeremy Spencer were on board, or if Christine decided to finally get out of town & join up, then yeah, it's a reunion. But, just Mick, John, Lindsey & Stevie (and the "add-ons")? It doesn't qualify as a "reunion", it's just their next band project after an extended break for solo work.
The only FMac tour in the past 30 years that qualifies as a "reunion tour" is 1997's The Dance tour. Other than that, no.
WeepingWall
10-17-2012, 03:49 PM
It just irks the hell out of me that every time Fleetwood Mac talks about touring it becomes a "reunion tour". :mad: They really never went away or SAID they were broken up...they're just on hiatus. Coming back from a hiatus is NOT a "reunion". Now, if Peter Green & Jeremy Spencer were on board, or if Christine decided to finally get out of town & join up, then yeah, it's a reunion. But, just Mick, John, Lindsey & Stevie (and the "add-ons")? It doesn't qualify as a "reunion", it's just their next band project after an extended break for solo work.
The only FMac tour in the past 30 years that qualifies as a "reunion tour" is 1997's The Dance tour. Other than that, no.
This always annoys me as well. I guess it is to make it more of a big deal in the press, but it certainly doesn't make any sense. It should just say "Fleetwood Mac to tour again in 2013!" Though reunite does mean, "come together or cause to come together again after a period of separation or disunity," and under that definition, calling it a reunion tour isn't necessarily wrong, just misleading.
estranged4life
10-17-2012, 04:07 PM
No thanks! I will pass on this one.
PenguinHead
10-17-2012, 04:36 PM
This always annoys me as well. I guess it is to make it more of a big deal in the press, but it certainly doesn't make any sense. It should just say "Fleetwood Mac to tour again in 2013!" Though reunite does mean, "come together or cause to come together again after a period of separation or disunity," and under that definition, calling it a reunion tour isn't necessarily wrong, just misleading.
I feel exactly the same. Every time the band gets together the media deems it a reunion - the inference being that the band had broken up. They can't grasp the dynamics of how the band works.
PenguinHead
10-17-2012, 04:51 PM
But if it's going to be about Lindsey/Stevie solo songs, they should include some Chris songs too. Temporary One, or another from her solo career that she performed with the band, or not. Temporary One is not a bad choice, is recent, is new, but I don't know if they should ask Chris for her songs, reading again that she has nothing to do with that FM will do in 2013.
Regards!
I prefer that they not perform any of Christine's songs. I didn't like the Lindsey/Stevie version of Don't Stop. I rather hear/see them perform the songs they wrote. This is essentially the Buckingham Nicks era of the band. In my twisted perspective, it shows respect not to attempt to cover her songs: the results will be a poor comparison to the originals.
fairydust75
10-17-2012, 06:29 PM
I would be thrilled beyond words if Buckingham Nicks could actually work together and just let the magic happen. But egos, emotions, jealousy, contempt, anger, and resentment would hav't be banished from all reality as we know it.
Jondalar
10-17-2012, 08:02 PM
No thanks! I will pass on this one.
Dido, pass gas
BombaySapphire3
10-17-2012, 08:05 PM
Dido, pass gas
How do Dido's gastrointestinal habits figure in this thread?:shrug:
Dr.Brown
10-17-2012, 09:30 PM
How do Dido's gastrointestinal habits figure in this thread?:shrug:
Guess they'd rather listen to an album of Dido's latest gastrointestinal releases (perhaps entitled "Say You Go"?) :sorry: rather than yet another
"Greatest Hits" retread.
Can't say I blame them. :distress:
Damn, this is the last thing I should be commenting on given my username. :shocked:
BombaySapphire3
10-17-2012, 09:54 PM
Guess they'd rather listen to an album of Dido's latest gastrointestinal releases (perhaps entitled "Say You Go"?) :sorry: rather than yet another
"Greatest Hits" retread.
Can't say I blame them. :distress:
Damn, this is the last thing I should be commenting on given my username. :shocked:
Right ..you might easily be mistaken for a proctologist.:laugh:
APerfectLie
10-18-2012, 04:41 AM
But if it's going to be about Lindsey/Stevie solo songs, they should include some Chris songs too. Temporary One, or another from her solo career that she performed with the band, or not. Temporary One is not a bad choice, is recent, is new, but I don't know if they should ask Chris for her songs, reading again that she has nothing to do with that FM will do in 2013.
Regards!
I would KILL for a studio version of Temporary One!
mylittledemon
10-18-2012, 04:51 AM
If they aren't going to do a new studio record... Why not do something "semi" fresh? Strip down the arrangements and do an Unplugged-style concert where everything is mostly acoustic. Lindsey and Stevie can throw in 3-4 new songs into the mix. Market the concert on DVD and CD and then go on tour. That at least wouldn't seem so insincere. ;)
vivfox
10-18-2012, 06:50 AM
If they aren't going to do a new studio record... Why not do something "semi" fresh? Strip down the arrangements and do an Unplugged-style concert where everything is mostly acoustic. Lindsey and Stevie can throw in 3-4 new songs into the mix. Market the concert on DVD and CD and then go on tour. That at least wouldn't seem so insincere. ;)
Us fans would LOVE this idea but then Mick and John wouldn't be of much use.
CADreaming
10-18-2012, 07:07 AM
It doesn't matter to me if they package an EP with a Greatest Hits compilation. If that's what they think will sell it. I bought both versions of SYW for the extra tracks and I would pay the same price for an stand alone EP anyway. I'm excited to hear any new stuff.
And, still hold out hope for some significant BN release / mini tour, etc.
vivfox
10-18-2012, 07:23 AM
It doesn't matter to me if they package an EP with a Greatest Hits compilation. If that's what they think will sell it. I bought both versions of SYW for the extra tracks and I would pay the same price for an stand alone EP anyway. I'm excited to hear any new stuff.
Sadly, most of us fans would buy another greatest hits album even if it contained nothing new or different, just to show them our support.
windbecame
10-18-2012, 08:37 AM
I'd still like to know whatever happened with the 2009 Rumours CD/DVD combo thing??? Weren't there supposedly new demos and raw footage?? It made the press..they even talked about it at the Chicago show I was at... then it was never released or talked about again?:shrug: I at least wanted the DVD:distress:
CADreaming
10-18-2012, 09:11 AM
I'd still like to know whatever happened with the 2009 Rumours CD/DVD combo thing??? Weren't there supposedly new demos and raw footage?? It made the press..they even talked about it at the Chicago show I was at... then it was never released or talked about again?:shrug: I at least wanted the DVD:distress:
Yeah, me too! I really wanted the DVD. :mad:
CADreaming
10-18-2012, 09:13 AM
Sadly, most of us fans would buy another greatest hits album even if it contained nothing new or different, just to show them our support.
I don't know that I would, but I also said at first I would not get sucked into starting another collection & I ended up buying everything. :laugh:
jcalzaretta
10-18-2012, 10:14 AM
I'd love to see a CD come out just with a bunch of demos. Imagine getting a CD with some of that great material - like Forest of the Black Roses, which is great as it is.
mylittledemon
10-18-2012, 03:14 PM
Us fans would LOVE this idea but then Mick and John wouldn't be of much use.
Clearly you haven't seen Nirvana, Bob Dylan's, or Eric Clapton's "Unplugged" concerts then...
louielouie2000
10-18-2012, 03:50 PM
I'd love to see a CD come out just with a bunch of demos. Imagine getting a CD with some of that great material - like Forest of the Black Roses, which is great as it is.
That'd be interesting, but only about a dozen people would buy a copy. All of whom are right here on this board. :laugh: They've already done something like this with their White Album, Rumours, and Tusk remasters, anyway.
Regarding the whole Unplugged idea, they've already done that, too: The Dance. God knows, I can't stomach another repackaging of Rumours... give us some new material. I don't care if it's a new album or an EP. Something, anything, that's a stand alone effort.
CADreaming
10-18-2012, 03:53 PM
That'd be interesting, but only about a dozen people would buy a copy. All of whom are right here on this board. :laugh: They've already done something like this with their White Album, Rumours, and Tusk remasters, anyway.
Regarding the whole Unplugged idea, they've already done that, too: The Dance. God knows, I can't stomach another repackaging of Rumours... give us some new material. I don't care if it's a new album or an EP. Something, anything, that's a stand alone effort.
Eh. I wouldn't call The Dance truly "unplugged"... :shrug: Lindsey playing a banjo on one song? No, a truly unplugged, acoustic set would be cool.
Blueletter18
10-18-2012, 03:54 PM
Yeah, me too! I really wanted the DVD. :mad:
I want te Tusk Documentary remastered an released on DVD!!! I am in love with that.
Bandon
10-18-2012, 06:28 PM
I would love to hear a good studio recording of All the Beautiful Worlds, Dancing In the Shadows or Don't Treat Me Like a Stranger.
Spikey
10-18-2012, 09:10 PM
I've supported BN the last 2 years already- bought their new albums, bought tickets to see them both.. I don't feel like buying a greatest hits CD for tracks they play daily on the radio!!
I will be majorly disappointed if they have to package new material with a hits CD too.. tells me they don't take new material seriously. Even an EP would be a disappointment on some levels, because they are always capable of releasing double albums.. 8 or 9 tracks would seem like so little.
It would be different if LB/SN were at the end of their careers, but they both just released excellent, successful solo albums in 2011- why would they settle for anything as this juncture??
Buckingham Nicks stuff should happen in 2013, too. Come on, it's the 40th anniversary and they can be in the same room any more..
Stones are doing something that sounds extremely similar - releasing Greatest Hits with a couple of new songs in November, with first 4 dates of the tour recently announced, and more to come.
so i guess it's a thing du jour to do :shrug:
Peestie
10-19-2012, 05:38 AM
Stones are doing something that sounds extremely similar - releasing Greatest Hits with a couple of new songs in November, with first 4 dates of the tour recently announced, and more to come.
so i guess it's a thing du jour to do :shrug:
Band have been doing it for a while now, but it's usually just after they've reunited and want to test the water: Van Halen, Whitesnake, Black Sabbath (w/RJD). I've no problem with them releasing new songs that way but I'd rather they just release it as an EP because I don't need duplicate copies of their other songs. However, I can see why it makes more commercial sense.
TrueFaith77
10-19-2012, 07:46 AM
it'll be on ituenes so u can just buy the new tracks and call it a day.
MacShadowsBall
10-19-2012, 03:53 PM
This sounds like what they did with the '88 Greatest hits album with As Long As You Follow and No Questions Asked as the new songs. Also done again, bigger, in '92 with Paper Doll, Love Shines, etc on The Chain.
They could release a two-discs set of rare demo/live/alternate versions of the songs and tour behind that. :cool:
Spikey
10-20-2012, 10:35 PM
Stones are doing something that sounds extremely similar - releasing Greatest Hits with a couple of new songs in November, with first 4 dates of the tour recently announced, and more to come.
With respect to elle, with one difference:
Stones are a band who are pretty much over and are just milking the pot, yes they released a single, yes it's good, but they obviously are wrapping things up. SN/LB are getting in my view to the final chapters, but not final chapter, of their respective solo careers and there should be more to play out in terms of FM legacies, an EP or more, not one song each tacked onto a Hits album rerelease. They're not 50 years in, they've got 10+ years behind the Stones..
APerfectLie
10-21-2012, 04:33 AM
This sounds like what they did with the '88 Greatest hits album with As Long As You Follow and No Questions Asked as the new songs. Also done again, bigger, in '92 with Paper Doll, Love Shines, etc on The Chain.
They could release a two-discs set of rare demo/live/alternate versions of the songs and tour behind that. :cool:
This would kick way more ass than just a Greatest Hits album by itself! Whatever they release probably will (or at least SHOULD) have all their music videos on DVD. If they do go the Greatest Hits route, I hope they do what Stevie did with Crystal Visions and have the regular CD with the hits and (unlike CV) two new songs, then a deluxe version with perhaps a bonus CD with some awesome demos/alternate versions/live songs and two more new songs and then a Bluray with all their videos in HD and maybe some unreleased live show or making of Mirage or Tango footage. This way they can cater to the masses and sell them the same old hits and they can also throw a bone to us diehards.
This would kick way more ass than just a Greatest Hits album by itself! Whatever they release probably will (or at least SHOULD) have all their music videos on DVD. If they do go the Greatest Hits route, I hope they do what Stevie did with Crystal Visions and have the regular CD with the hits and (unlike CV) two new songs, then a deluxe version with perhaps a bonus CD with some awesome demos/alternate versions/live songs and two more new songs and then a Bluray with all their videos in HD and maybe some unreleased live show or making of Mirage or Tango footage. This way they can cater to the masses and sell them the same old hits and they can also throw a bone to us diehards.
That's THE IDEA!! A special CD/DVD edition would be incredible, with new material, like video footages.
I really want to see something about Mirage on video! How it was recorded, the studio in France, the sessions. I suppose something like this but about Tango In The Night exists, but not with Mirage. The only I know is how the video of Hold Me was made. :(
I'm starting to rule out a whole new album...
Regards!
michelej1
10-21-2012, 02:54 PM
That's THE IDEA!! A special CD/DVD edition would be incredible, with new material, like video footages.
I really want to see something about Mirage on video! How it was recorded, the studio in France, the sessions. I suppose something like this but about Tango In The Night exists, but not with Mirage. The only I know is how the video of Hold Me was made. :(
I'm starting to rule out a whole new album...
Regards!
I agree. I'd love to know the background for Mirage. What they did in France, what they did here. Everything that was recorded, but left off of the album. All that inside stuff.
Michele
mikephxaz
10-23-2012, 09:53 PM
they have five months to repackage a greatest hits with videos and bsides, demos, a few new songs, etc. If they dont give us something... I will be dissappointed...Even if the concert tour had video clips, nostalgia, GIVE US SOMETHING! I hope they aren't touring just because they can...those tours are tiresome. Instead of the boys club...stevie needs to step up to the fore front and do a few atmosphereic numbers like SOTM
Villavic
10-23-2012, 10:54 PM
They could release a two-discs set of rare demo/live/alternate versions of the songs and tour behind that. :cool:
I agree with that. It sounds to me more interesting than a pair of singles with old hits in a new GH album.
BombaySapphire3
10-24-2012, 01:05 AM
I hope they aren't touring just because they can...those tours are tiresome.
They are touring to make money.If the two writers then use said money to help finance future solo projects then it will have served some artistic purpose..but that is all.
mikephxaz
10-24-2012, 10:29 PM
They are touring to make money.If the two writers then use said money to help finance future solo projects then it will have served some artistic purpose..but that is all.
I am hoping that that is not the ONLY reason...With IYD Stevie has just proven that at 64 she can still have passion and drive to accomplish something fresh and new...With Say You Will, FM did the same thing...I don't want to believe that FM tours only to cash flow solo projects :distress:
BombaySapphire3
10-25-2012, 12:19 AM
I am hoping that that is not the ONLY reason...With IYD Stevie has just proven that at 64 she can still have passion and drive to accomplish something fresh and new...With Say You Will, FM did the same thing...I don't want to believe that FM tours only to cash flow solo projects :distress:
Say You Will was nearly a decade ago.Fleetwood Mac has not produced a note of new music since then.The "Unleashed" tour was exactly the oldies cash grab that Lindsey had once criticized the Eagles for.I don't see this next one being any different.Aside from the more worthy causes of funding solo albums the tour will serve to bankroll Mick's latest bussiness ventures and money making schemes.:rolleyes:
mikephxaz
10-25-2012, 12:38 AM
Say You Will was nearly a decade ago.Fleetwood Mac has not produced a note of new music since then.The "Unleashed" tour was exactly the oldies cash grab that Lindsey had once criticized the Eagles for.I don't see this next one being any different.Aside from the more worthy causes of funding solo albums the tour will serve to bankroll Mick's latest bussiness ventures and money making schemes.:rolleyes:
I agree about Unleashed....and about Mick...I just hoped Stevie wouldn't play with boys
for the same reason...I've seen the Eagles on their greatest hits tour and it was sad because it was obvious they don't like one another and doing it for the cash. Say You Will wasnt a perfect album but it was an honest attempt to be renewed and creative...my wish was that FM would be creative again...they may get the surprise of their lives if they dont sell as many tickets this time around...
On Ice
10-25-2012, 08:01 AM
I see a new greatest hits album and this tour as one in the same thing, just another re-hash and a means to make money. Not that there's anything wrong with making money, but let's face the facts that the nostalgia of the long ago Rumours is a lot more lucrative than making a creative, edgy new album. I've been a fan since the beginning of the Stevie-Lindsey line up and there was a time I would not miss an album or concert for the world. Hitting the road to play the same set with one or two of the bands gems thrown in to entice people like us, unfortunately just does nothing for me. I would however be interested in seeing either of them playing their great new music on their own, but as a band with no new material, it's incredibly stale and I have better things to spend my hard earned cash on. Sorry Mick
BrownEyedGirl26
10-25-2012, 10:23 AM
I agree about Unleashed....and about Mick...I just hoped Stevie wouldn't play with boys
for the same reason...I've seen the Eagles on their greatest hits tour and it was sad because it was obvious they don't like one another and doing it for the cash. Say You Will wasnt a perfect album but it was an honest attempt to be renewed and creative...my wish was that FM would be creative again...they may get the surprise of their lives if they dont sell as many tickets this time around...
Mike, because of the fact that the last tour was such a success, I'm a bit worried they won't be able to sustain the ticket sales! I really hope I'm wrong!:shrug:
michelej1
10-25-2012, 12:28 PM
Mike, because of the fact that the last tour was such a success, I'm a bit worried they won't be able to sustain the ticket sales! I really hope I'm wrong!:shrug:
Luckily, I think enough time has passed now. The audience has had a few years to refresh and replenish.
Michele
louielouie2000
10-25-2012, 02:00 PM
I think enough time has passed now. The audience has had a few years to refresh and replenish.
Michele
Agreed. By the time the band hits the road next year, it will have been 4 years since the Unleashed tour. Since they'll be touring (again!) backing the same old setlist with no new material, 4 years is enough of a break to whet casual fans appetites to plunk down $75-$200 for Mac tickets. The economy is in better shape than it was back in '09 as well, so people are spending a bit more freely on frivalous expenditures like pricey concert tickets. If Fleetwood Mac does go out on the road next year, they'll make money for sure. They'll probably even fill up the arenas better this time than they did last time around, too. Anyone else remember how some venues were half filled, and tickets were either given away, or greatly slashed leading up to shows, and some shows were cancelled?
mikephxaz
10-25-2012, 09:24 PM
Agreed. By the time the band hits the road next year, it will have been 4 years since the Unleashed tour. Since they'll be touring (again!) backing the same old setlist with no new material, 4 years is enough of a break to whet casual fans appetites to plunk down $75-$200 for Mac tickets. The economy is in better shape than it was back in '09 as well, so people are spending a bit more freely on frivalous expenditures like pricey concert tickets. If Fleetwood Mac does go out on the road next year, they'll make money for sure. They'll probably even fill up the arenas better this time than they did last time around, too. Anyone else remember how some venues were half filled, and tickets were either given away, or greatly slashed leading up to shows, and some shows were cancelled?
the truth is..as much as I bitch about the same ole setlist i'm such a fool, i'll probably be in the front five roows in Phoenix with my friends:distress:
On Ice
10-25-2012, 10:43 PM
I would like nothing better if we were all excited about a killer new album and a tour of smaller, more intimate venues with a career encompassing set list, the fab four plus may Tuggle and a percussionist, not an arena cash grab with "extra" musicians and backing vocalists.
A sheds tour with the same set list, again, not interested.
I would like nothing better if we were all excited about a killer new album and a tour of smaller, more intimate venues with a career encompassing set list, the fab four plus may Tuggle and a percussionist, not an arena cash grab with "extra" musicians and backing vocalists.
A sheds tour with the same set list, again, not interested.
I agree. Ancient tours were with a hidden Ray Lindsey playing some guitars. I think a short line-up with Mick, John, Stevie & Lindsey, Brett, a percussionist (could be Taku or Lenny), and maybe one backing vocalist (Sharon, Lory or Jana) should be good, but if you count them, they're already many too. :shrug:
I'm sad because maybe they're thinking about a smaller tour as you said, and for someone who lives so far away, it means that you won't see them...again...
And about the setlist, yes. They must change them. They will play the classics (The Chain, GYOW, NGBA, Dreams, and Don't Stop even when we know is not the same), but in the 2003/04 tour they played songs like Eyes of the World, and Beautiful Child. I know people are waiting for Sisters of the Moon, but what about Crystal, Save me a place, Sara, Oh Well, and Seven Wonders?
Regards!
WildHearted
10-26-2012, 09:13 AM
I agree. Ancient tours were with a hidden Ray Lindsey playing some guitars. I think a short line-up with Mick, John, Stevie & Lindsey, Brett, a percussionist (could be Taku or Lenny), and maybe one backing vocalist (Sharon, Lory or Jana) should be good, but if you count them, they're already many too. :shrug:
I'm sad because maybe they're thinking about a smaller tour as you said, and for someone who lives so far away, it means that you won't see them...again...
And about the setlist, yes. They must change them. They will play the classics (The Chain, GYOW, NGBA, Dreams, and Don't Stop even when we know is not the same), but in the 2003/04 tour they played songs like Eyes of the World, and Beautiful Child. I know people are waiting for Sisters of the Moon, but what about Crystal, Save me a place, Sara, Oh Well, and Seven Wonders?
Regards!
They've played Sara a lot, haven't they?
Aussie W/Heart
10-26-2012, 09:21 AM
Frozen Love
Crystal
SOTM
Beautiful Child
GDW
The Chain
They can play whatever the like after the above songs have been performed:D:thumbsup:
CADreaming
10-26-2012, 10:51 AM
They've played Sara a lot, haven't they?
Yes. They played it I think starting with the second leg of SYW and all during Unleashed. Their interaction became known as "the Sara hug" for that tour. lol
And, as far as Unleashed goes - I don't think it was a total washout as a tour. I think they used it like they said they were going to - to write. I think IYD and SWS came out of the down time on that tour. Also, they reworked GDW, did a band version of GI, made NGB strangely eerie, gave us the aforementioned "Sara hug", and Stevie brought back the top hat and told the story behind "Gypsy". Besides, I have an affinity for this tour since it was the first time I saw them live. It was a sweet tour. I'm even more excited to see them next year since Stevie has been having such a great time lately - I just hope her mood remains that way for FM.
KindOfWoman90
10-26-2012, 11:20 PM
Youtube led me to this interview with Glenn Frey from earlier this year - If you jump to 11:28, he mentions the possibility of an EP in conjunction with a 2 disc dvd history of the Eagles.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxUPNnmk2xA&feature=related
I just find it interesting that what some of us have felt would be a good option for FM is exactly what they are doing! I also find it interesting that they are putting together a doc, but that's beside the point. :D
michelej1
10-27-2012, 02:23 PM
I just find it interesting that what some of us have felt would be a good option for FM is exactly what they are doing! I also find it interesting that they are putting together a doc, but that's beside the point. :D
Interesting and it makes sense. I'd expect the Eagles and FM to be doing similar things, given the people behind them.
Michele
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