Band Politics

[MikeInNV]

Al Ortiz posted a Facebook pic of the marquee at the Beacon Theater that said "Stevie Nicks sold out." There were lots of comments, but one was from Lenny Castro saying how much he missed everyone. Someone else asked why he wasn't with them, and Lenny's response was "Ask Waddy. Not my doing." That's a little sad, and it reminded me of Jana feeling a little blindsided when she lost her spot.

[Fireflies]

to my knowledge, lenny was verbal in his disdain for dave stewart and his entourage. if stevie was aware that one of her band members was bashing on her newfound muse--one could see why she'd ask waddy to wield the axe for her.

[Josh2003]

to my knowledge, lenny was verbal in his disdain for dave stewart and his entourage. if stevie was aware that one of her band members was bashing on her newfound muse--one could see why she'd ask waddy to wield the axe for her.

Of course I have no way of knowing, but if Lenny was excluded for some personal reason or because of a purported beef he had with DS or anyone else, wouldn't they have simply replaced him, rather than tour without a percussionist at all?

That there is nobody at all on percussion leads me more to believe that Waddy probably felt a percussionist just wasn't necessary (which I find odd, since Stevie has never NOT had a percussionist).

[BombaySapphire3]

to my knowledge, lenny was verbal in his disdain for dave stewart and his entourage. if stevie was aware that one of her band members was bashing on her newfound muse--one could see why she'd ask waddy to wield the axe for her.

It begs belief that a member of Fleetwood Mac who have bashed on each other literally and figuratively for decades would give someone the boot for just that.Especially since to anyone that wasn't born yesterday Dave can come across as an annoying dweeb..just ask Annie.

[michelej1]

It begs belief that a member of Fleetwood Mac who have bashed on each other literally and figuratively for decades would give someone the boot for just that.

Employees don't enjoy the same privileges as the bosses.

If I were Lenny and Jana, even if I was understandably upset, I wouldn't say so on social sites, because let a year or a couple of tours past and the performer might want you back, but not if you've burned bridges.

Michele

[Macfanforever]

Ok thanks for this news.I was wondering why Lenny was missing.To bad for him.

[CADreaming]

Employees don't enjoy the same privileges as the bosses.

If I were Lenny and Jana, even if I was understandably upset, I wouldn't say so on social sites, because let a year or a couple of tours past and the performer might want you back, but not if you've burned bridges.

Michele

Exactly. But, I thought the artist paid a retainer to hold the players. Don't they know in advance when they are going out?

[Josh2003]

Exactly. But, I thought the artist paid a retainer to hold the players. Don't they know in advance when they are going out?

Lenny perhaps did. I haven't seen anything that indicates his "exclusion" was a surprise. All he said was "Ask Waddy" when asked why he wasn't included for this go-around. That could have many implications besides the surprised, blindsided Lenny we're suddenly painting him as here.

[Keith]

I like Lenny, but I didn't miss him last night. I actually liked how the band sounded. Also, maybe it's economics - one less player to have to pay. Stevie's audience is smaller - it's just a feeling but she did say last night that she and Darrell should tour alone - she was joking but mentioned it would be cheaper.. Who knows? Just her and a piano.

[Tango]

I like Lenny, but I didn't miss him last night. I actually liked how the band sounded. Also, maybe it's economics - one less player to have to pay. Stevie's audience is smaller - it's just a feeling but she did say last night that she and Darrell should tour alone - she was joking but mentioned it would be cheaper.. Who knows? Just her and a piano.

Yes, seriously. Maybe she took her cues from Lindsey's latest outting. What's cheaper than free and paying NO ONE!

[KarmaContestant]

Is Waddy on Facebook? If so, is anyone going to ask him? :woohoo:

[CADreaming]

... it's just a feeling but she did say last night that she and Darrell should tour alone - she was joking but mentioned it would be cheaper.. Who knows? Just her and a piano.

No she didn't! :laugh::lol::laugh:

[Christopher]

Yes, seriously. Maybe she took her cues from Lindsey's latest outting. What's cheaper than free and paying NO ONE!

Exactly! It appears that Stevie had to pare down again this outing and do some more cost cutting. The obvious one to get the axe is Lenny. Yes, it sucks for Lenny, and us, since Stevie always had a percussionist on her solo excursions. But the concert business is brutal, and many an artist have to make sacrifices if they want to continue to pay the remaining musicians a significant wage. It's an unfortunate reality for many touring musicians these days.

[CADreaming]

So Darrell and Brett are playing keys?

[Christopher]

So Darrell and Brett are playing keys?

Stevie had 2 keyboardist last outing. Brett has replaced Ricky this time out, I suppose an additional keyboardist is needed more than additional percussion to flesh out the arrangements in Stevie's current set list. :shrug:

[Macfanforever]

I agree .Its sad to see anybody loose their job.The Stevie Nicks company is like any other company in this country.Stevie and Waddy are looking to cut costs.Cutbacks are everywhere and they are saying its getting better.

Don't forget Bobbie Hall was her percussionist in the beginning.

[michelej1]

But, I thought the artist paid a retainer to hold the players. Don't they know in advance when they are going out?

I wonder how much notice you get before you can assume, "Well, if I haven't heard anything yet, I guess I won't be included."

I imagine that depends on the size of she show. With a big act or a long tour, you probably get tapped on the shoulder 6 months or a year in advance. When they're small it's different.

With Jana she seemed to know far enough in advance but she didn't like the way she found out on the grapevine and didn't hear from them personally.

Michele

[Macfanforever]

I was thinking the other night about Stevie is touring all the time now.We've seen her on tour every year for almost 10 years now Including FM,Tom Petty shows.
Waddy and her crew are lucky to keep going out on the road with her.

[drag00n]

"reminded me of Jana feeling a little blindsided when she lost her spot."

OK you have peaked my curiosity.. I just assumed, that Jenna left because with her CD, she was moving on to focus on her own career?? Guess not?? So what's the story?????

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[CADreaming]

"reminded me of Jana feeling a little blindsided when she lost her spot."

OK you have peaked my curiosity.. I just assumed, that Jenna left because with her CD, she was moving on to focus on her own career?? Guess not?? So what's the story?????

d,

I heard she found out through other band members she wasn't included in Stevie's last solo tour. She was supposedly still down for a FM tour, but since those plans were put on hold, I guess we'll see...

[drag00n]

I heard she found out through other band members she wasn't included in Stevie's last solo tour. She was supposedly still down for a FM tour, but since those plans were put on hold, I guess we'll see...

Thanks for the quick answer.. I guess I get so wrapped up in the music I forget it really is a business as well.. :distress:
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[olive]

Don't forget Bobbie Hall was her percussionist in the beginning.

wasn't she taking and selling stuff on e-bay along with the personal gifts she received from Stevie?

[drag00n]

wasn't she taking and selling stuff on e-bay along with the personal gifts she received from Stevie?

OMG!! Bobbie Hall Really???

[drag00n]

Just found this video bit from the PNC show.
Stevie is talking about the band being in different places and says something about losing one of their members... Lennie??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4m92fDiI5E&feature=relmfu