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Tango
03-20-2012, 08:02 AM
This information is actually included under the FAQ section at the top of the board (frequently asked questions):

A "Supporting Ledgie" is someone who, through a nominal contribution, helps us to meet the expenses of The Penguin and the Ledge. All contributions are either used for enhanced functionality or to offset running expenses. We pay a monthly fee for a dedicated server providing ample bandwidth, speed, and space to reliably run the Ledge and the rest of the Penguin. In addition to helping to support the site, "Supporting Ledgies" receive the following additional benefits: no banner advertising as they browse, the ability to turn off the Ebay auction listings, up to 150 private message storage capacity, a green username on the Who's Online List, their name listed on the 'View Forum Leaders' page, contribution status indicated under your username, a maximum Avatar Size of 75x75 (instead of 50x50), and the ability to be invisible on the Who's Online list.

Contributions can be conveniently and securely be made via Paypal in the Paid Subscription section of your User CP. Subscriptions can be purchased for either $6 for 6 months or $12 for 12 months. That only a dollar per month -- less than a cup of Starbucks coffee!

If you think about it, some folks here use The Ledge as their personal guidance counselor, sounding board, venting house, confessional, advice column, a place to find out where and when to purchase tickets, sell stuff on eBay, promote their school work, etc-- it seems the people that post the most could certainly come up with a buck a month for having a place to talk to others. Everyone wastes a dollar a month somewhere, even college kids--why not help with the upkeep and do something positive for everyone?

holidayroad
03-20-2012, 08:20 AM
It is to me!! It takes even less than that to be a Supporting Ledgie!!

I think most of us here think The Ledge is a wonderful place for fans of Fleetwood Mac. A lot of us are here every day. Michele (michelej1) has done an excellent job. She wants to keep this site, but is losing over $200 per month trying to do that.

All of us could help to keep this site in Michele's capable hands. Please consider becoming a Supporting Ledgie!

Travis
03-20-2012, 08:25 AM
I just paid $6

McTrouble
03-20-2012, 09:24 AM
I would actually like to hear some reasons as to why more Ledgies don't contribute and become Supporters? Especially ones that are here day in and day out. It only costs a pittance!

fringed n fab
03-20-2012, 10:41 AM
I would actually like to hear some reasons as to why more Ledgies don't contribute and become Supporters? Especially ones that are here day in and day out. It only costs a pittance!

I have said as far as me. It's not about 12 dollars a year either. Surely we all have that. But again, news of the site either selling soon, possibly even closing, still leaves a lot unclarified as to whether or not our 12 dollars together is enough to save this site, cause it's looking to me like the heads want out from under it regardless at this point, even though they say it's against their wishes. Would hate for everyone to start paying and the site close anyway if it doesn't sell. I have no idea what is going on and seem like the only one asking real questions unless those privy on here know things from others behind the scenes that us others aren't as privileged to be aware of.

CADreaming
03-20-2012, 10:55 AM
^Unless someone who is really comfortable financially buys it and can fork over the $235/month to keep it up, then it makes sense to support the site now and help out either the current owner or the future owner.

It would really suck to lose the site-the board too, but we can always discuss in other forums. It would take eons to rebuild the info that is in the site....

fringed n fab
03-20-2012, 11:10 AM
^Unless someone who is really comfortable financially buys it and can fork over the $235/month to keep it up, then it makes sense to support the site now and help out either the current owner or the future owner.

It would really suck to lose the site-the board too, but we can always discuss in other forums. It would take eons to rebuild the info that is in the site....

Say we have over 3,000 registered? If 1,500 of those people all came together at once and put up their 12 bucks, maybe that would make a dent in keeping up the site for a while and in a perfect simple world, everyone would easily do that but do you really see it happening? And this is what scares me if just 25 of us paid our 12 dollars. Because with the monthly running costs, seems like it's going to take more than that to keep this site up and running, nothing against the owners, just talking business and keeping real. No one's really saying just what's going on or might just happen. If it were mine or anyone elses site to run, what's so wrong about just coming forward and laying the facts out about raising more funds to keep this great site open for everyone. Because I think anyone else if they were in charge would have no problem making an official announcement on here if they wanted the site saved.

HomerMcvie
03-20-2012, 11:16 AM
nothing against the owners, just talking business and keeping real. No one's really saying just what's going on or might just happen.

Yeah, I have no problem becoming a supporter...I'd just like to know that I'm not going to pay, and then it closes in 2 months.


(or sells to someone who lifts the bans on evil people):lol:

fringed n fab
03-20-2012, 11:18 AM
Also some may not like it, but I see no problem if the site does remain open, then why not incorporate small tiny ads between posts or pages like City Data does? Minimal ads, not in the way of browsing. Along with yes, more paid memberships from those enjoying the site. Because like most anything, to keep a good thing running sometimes takes some money. That's just life as I'm sure we know. I just wish all of this had been brought up sooner to us on here before the owners were forced to talk selling or closing.

Tango
03-20-2012, 04:43 PM
Yeah, I have no problem becoming a supporter...I'd just like to know that I'm not going to pay, and then it closes in 2 months.



Yes, you'd lose--what-- like $4.00 on a board that you've been posting on daily for years. C'mon Homer, change your name to green. It's the right thing to do. Be a leader, and you'll still get to tell us all what you're having for dinner every night. A few more people helping to lighten the burden would help the current owner and hopefully keep it going.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2308/2327929269_6e4cb92354.jpg

Tango
03-20-2012, 04:45 PM
Also some may not like it, but I see no problem if the site does remain open, then why not incorporate small tiny ads between posts or pages like City Data does? Minimal ads, not in the way of browsing. Along with yes, more paid memberships from those enjoying the site. Because like most anything, to keep a good thing running sometimes takes some money. That's just life as I'm sure we know. I just wish all of this had been brought up sooner to us on here before the owners were forced to talk selling or closing.

Your name is still "brown" to me.

HomerMcvie
03-20-2012, 04:46 PM
Your name is still "brown" to me.

Wow. We've been singled out....


~peer pressure~

chriskisn
03-20-2012, 05:00 PM
It seems like lots of arguments against parting with $12. The problem is that if a new owner bought it tomorrow, they still have the same costs and the problem is that you still don't know if your $12 is going to stop the site closing within that 12 months.

Michele's point as I see it is that she can not financially afford to keep paying for this site. So basically because no-one is supporting this site it runs the risk of closing. So the very reason against supporting the site (closing) is the reason it is for sale and obviously if no-one buys, may close.

Maybe in the USA $12 is worth a whole lot more than it is in Australia. I mean I know you don't earn as much per year as we generally do in Australia, but I didn't realise you were THAT poor!

louielouie2000
03-20-2012, 05:49 PM
Thanks for starting this thread, and keeping the discussion going, folks. For further clarification:

1) When you pay to become a supporting member, you pay via a Paypal account. No one here at the Ledge will ever see your credit card or banking info. They Ledge owner, Michele, simply receives a payment from Paypal.

2) The cost is $1/per month. This can either be paid in a 6 month installment or a 12 month installment.

3) Unless a buyer steps forward, or the board quickly begins supporting itself with enough paying members, the Ledge is in very real danger of disappearing.

wetcamelfood
03-20-2012, 05:49 PM
It would really suck to lose the site-the board too, but we can always discuss in other forums. It would take eons to rebuild the info that is in the site....

Yes, in order to get the discography in database format we had to start over from scratch in 2004. It took 2 years just to get what was on the old discog pages in to the new. Then, from 2006 to now to build up the content on all items in there now (since y'know we all work full time and squeeze it in when we can etc.). It just figures in a few weeks I'd be ready to enter "new" things FINALLY then it may be all for naught. Hopefully not though, someone did have an idea in the other thread about all supporting ledgies paying 8 dollars a month and I might be able to swing that but of course there's bound to be some SL's that can't or may have good intentions originally then life's unexpected expenses crop up etc. Finger's crossed though & I'm open to ideas. :)

John

fringed n fab
03-20-2012, 06:26 PM
It seems like lots of arguments against parting with $12. The problem is that if a new owner bought it tomorrow, they still have the same costs and the problem is that you still don't know if your $12 is going to stop the site closing within that 12 months.
Michele's point as I see it is that she can not financially afford to keep paying for this site. So basically because no-one is supporting this site it runs the risk of closing. So the very reason against supporting the site (closing) is the reason it is for sale and obviously if no-one buys, may close.

Maybe in the USA $12 is worth a whole lot more than it is in Australia. I mean I know you don't earn as much per year as we generally do in Australia, but I didn't realise you were THAT poor!

At this rate is 12 dollars going to help at all? is my point. It would take a lot of registered members putting together the 12 dollars to get them (the owners) the money they need to continue operating month to month at this point it seems to me. And Tango? We understand your frustration but it's not right to go singling people out, many may have their reasons until they better understand what's about to take place soon here since no one's really come forth and made any official announcements about helping save the site. Right now all we know is it's up for sale.

louielouie2000
03-20-2012, 06:59 PM
I just wish all of this had been brought up sooner to us on here before the owners were forced to talk selling or closing.

I've dropped posts encouraging people to become supporting members the past year or so. I remember you in particular responding to those posts in the past. You aren't interested in becoming a supporting member, and that's just fine.

:wavey:

At this rate is 12 dollars going to help at all? is my point. It would take a lot of registered members putting together the 12 dollars to get them (the owners) the money they need to continue operating month to month at this point it seems to me.

If every single person who has read the announcement about the Ledge sale (which is posted at the top of every forum) became supporting members, this site would not just support itself, it would earn money. This revenue could be reinvested into not just the Ledge, but the rest of FleetwoodMac.net. There is so much more FleetwoodMac.net could offer. :)

HomerMcvie
03-20-2012, 07:00 PM
At this rate is 12 dollars going to help at all? is my point. It would take a lot of registered members putting together the 12 dollars to get them (the owners) the money they need to continue operating month to month at this point it seems to me.

And Tango? We understand your frustration but it's not right to go singling people out, many may have their reasons until they better understand what's about to take place soon here since no one's really come forth and made any official announcements about helping save the site. Right now all we know is it's up for sale.

Exactly. There's nothing wrong with asking what may happen. Just because we might raise $500 now, doesn't guarantee that The Ledge will still be here in 3 months, right?


A few years ago, someone was singling out people who weren't "supporting", and the mods scolded them for doing so. Maybe that policy has changed, since it's "desperate times".:shrug:

Silver Springs
03-20-2012, 07:04 PM
A few years ago, someone was singling out people who weren't "supporting", and the mods scolded them for doing so. Maybe that policy has changed, since it's "desperate times".:shrug:

I've been getting that impression with this thread as I've been reading it, too. Beginning to feel as though us "non-supporters" are going to have a stigma attached to us from now on because of what's happening.

I genuinely cannot afford the money to support.

WildHearted
03-20-2012, 07:09 PM
I would support if I could. As it stands right now, I honestly can't (poor college student with no job and $22 to my name). But I wish there was more I could do.

HomerMcvie
03-20-2012, 07:09 PM
I've been getting that impression with this thread as I've been reading it, too. Beginning to feel as though us "non-supporters" are going to have a stigma attached to us from now on because of what's happening.

I genuinely cannot afford the money to support.

And I couldn't back then(due to astronomical vet bills).

I can afford it now, and have said that I want to now, but being chided for asking questions, certainly isn't loosening the chain around my wallet. Quite the opposite, to be honest.

jannieC
03-20-2012, 07:33 PM
Guys, don't feel badly about your inability to be a supporting member of The Ledge at this point. And please know that if you contribute now, the site may still be sold or go offline. Let's hope that someone will buy it and decide to keep it going.

chriskisn
03-20-2012, 08:51 PM
At this rate is 12 dollars going to help at all? is my point. It would take a lot of registered members putting together the 12 dollars to get them (the owners) the money they need to continue operating month to month at this point it seems to me. And Tango? We understand your frustration but it's not right to go singling people out, many may have their reasons until they better understand what's about to take place soon here since no one's really come forth and made any official announcements about helping save the site. Right now all we know is it's up for sale.

The point is that if this place closes there will be lots and lots of people who post here a lot more regularly than I do that will be sad. The simple fact is that if just a few of them had contributed we might not have got to this point.

Sure not everyone can afford it and that is fine. If you can't afford to put food on the table then the ledge isn't going to be a high priority.

Someone said somewhere that there were only 31 people who were supporting ledgies (don't know how accurate this figure is?) but that means there are at least a couple of hundred regular users who aren't. Surely they can't all be too poor to contribute.

Yes we could all send money and the site could still close, but the point is simply that if more people had helped we would probably not be in this situation.

Anway, I have a toddler to put to a morning sleep and so I'm outta here....

CADreaming
03-20-2012, 08:52 PM
I decided to become a supporting member now even though it may not help save the site. But, I've enjoyed hanging out here for a few years and I can afford $12 in the hopes that things may turn around. I encourage anyone who can afford the $12 for a one-year membership to please do the same. It may not be a guarantee that your money will save the site, but if you don't support it definitely won't. Also, it doesn't mean another solution won't come along later. Personally, it's worth the investment to me to hope the site won't go away. I dare say I've gotten $12 worth of entertainment in this year alone -- and wasted more than that at the movies.

bangdrum
03-20-2012, 09:15 PM
I can afford $12 (once anyway). Look I'm green! :D

fringed n fab
03-20-2012, 09:20 PM
I've dropped posts encouraging people to become supporting members the past year or so. I remember you in particular responding to those posts in the past. You aren't interested in becoming a supporting member, and that's just fine.
:wavey:



If every single person who has read the announcement about the Ledge sale (which is posted at the top of every forum) became supporting members, this site would not just support itself, it would earn money. This revenue could be reinvested into not just the Ledge, but the rest of FleetwoodMac.net. There is so much more FleetwoodMac.net could offer. :)

I don't recall those conversations and to the best of my knowledge, I have always kept my opinions about joining/attempting to become more involved here, to myself up until now. It wasn't ever about the 12 dollars and still isn't. I never said I wouldn't contribute but that should be on everyone's own terms and not ridiculed or forced. At this point it seems they want out from under it and it might not sell and maybe just maybe, go offline soon no matter what.

fringed n fab
03-20-2012, 09:23 PM
Guys, don't feel badly about your inability to be a supporting member of The Ledge at this point. And please know that if you contribute now, the site may still be sold or go offline. Let's hope that someone will buy it and decide to keep it going.

Thank you for understanding Jannie. I know we don't conversate much on here but you have always been a fun, reasonable moderator.

APerfectLie
03-20-2012, 10:28 PM
Come Friday I will become a supporting member. But maybe the mods should hit up Karen and see if Stevie would be up to foot the bill ;)

iamnotafraid
03-20-2012, 10:37 PM
the mods should hit up Karen and see if Stevie would be up to foot the bill ;)

What about Mick???
Oh... never mind.

HomerMcvie
03-20-2012, 11:34 PM
What about Mick???
Oh... never mind. Mick can't pay his damned electric bill...:laugh:

cliffdweller
03-21-2012, 08:34 AM
I just donated $12. Totally worth it to me as I have been on this board now for 9 years and it has supplied me with endless enjoyment and entertainment over the years. I wish I would've donated sooner and more often.

holidayroad
03-21-2012, 09:43 AM
I've been getting that impression with this thread as I've been reading it, too. Beginning to feel as though us "non-supporters" are going to have a stigma attached to us from now on because of what's happening.

I genuinely cannot afford the money to support.



If someone can't afford it, that is understandable. I've had plenty of times in my life where I couldn't have afforded it. We're just trying to encourage people who can afford it to contribute. I don't want anyone to feel stigmatized. People will do what they can. I think everyone will accept that.

MacShadowsBall
03-21-2012, 10:19 AM
Besides paying money, are there any other ways Ledgies can help?

CADreaming
03-21-2012, 11:12 AM
If you are on Twitter, please follow me @CA_Dream and RT in the campaign to advertise the sale & ask for supporting members.

Thanks! :wavey:

BTFLCHLD
03-21-2012, 11:49 AM
Someone said somewhere that there were only 31 people who were supporting ledgies (don't know how accurate this figure is?) but that means there are at least a couple of hundred regular users who aren't. Surely they can't all be too poor to contribute...

supporting members (http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showgroups.php) <---info avail here.

adsense should be bringing in $$$ on the impressions alone. yes/no?

i have been a supporting memeber for YEARS. i am lucky to have extra at the time of renewal and i understand totally those that are unable to. but i also believe there are those that can and are simply unaware of the option -- pretty sure many do not linger in FAQ long enough to notice, if at all.

if you can, do. if you cant, dont. i do find a tad lame those that can but wont with the reasoning given due to a potentially limited time frame the ledge will be here. maybe time for a bit of payback for what you have enjoyed for so f'in long?! :shrug: close your eyes, imagine you are purchasing stevie's newest CD release, or the Buckingham Nicks ANEW album...im thinking most would be all over those purchases. :rolleyes:

perhaps the ledge should consider the change to paying membership -- pay or dont play.

Silver Springs
03-21-2012, 12:30 PM
perhaps the ledge should consider the change to paying membership -- pay or dont play.

That would remove a lot of the regular posters from the equation, me included. If we can't afford to support The Ledge, we can't afford to pay for a membership.

Simple.

MacShadowsBall
03-21-2012, 12:39 PM
I'm considering becoming a Supporting Ledgie for the 6 month version. I'm just concerned about PayPal and putting in my checking account/debit card number. I've never used PayPal. :confused:

I like the idea of having a higher limit of PM's as I've had to delete alot I wanted to save since I've been here.

So if you like PMing, remember that extra perk!

BTFLCHLD
03-21-2012, 12:45 PM
Simple.
Correct.

The idea of pay or dont play is for those interested in saving fleetwoodmac.net NOT necessarily forum chatroom frolics. There are forums available for FREE to create as well as other unledge forums to participate in.

ragrsrocalot
03-21-2012, 02:18 PM
I decided to become a supporting member now even though it may not help save the site. But, I've enjoyed hanging out here for a few years and I can afford $12 in the hopes that things may turn around. I encourage anyone who can afford the $12 for a one-year membership to please do the same. It may not be a guarantee that your money will save the site, but if you don't support it definitely won't. Also, it doesn't mean another solution won't come along later. Personally, it's worth the investment to me to hope the site won't go away. I dare say I've gotten $12 worth of entertainment in this year alone -- and wasted more than that at the movies.

Ditto .

CADreaming
03-21-2012, 03:21 PM
If I counted correctly there are now 34 supporting members. It would take $7 a month per member to cover the monthly fees-or roughly 200 more members to become supporting members.

wetcamelfood
03-21-2012, 04:52 PM
Correct.

The idea of pay or dont play is for those interested in saving fleetwoodmac.net NOT necessarily forum chatroom frolics. There are forums available for FREE to create as well as other unledge forums to participate in.

I agree, it's really just the discography I care about (or well, I wouldn't mind chiping in for a ledge w/o chit chat). If I could buy just the discog part of the site I might consider that but I don't thnk that's do-able so hopefully we can come up with something. :)

John

louielouie2000
03-21-2012, 06:22 PM
I posted this in the other thread, but if you've got any questions/comments/concerns/ideas/etc regarding being a Supporting Ledgie, the possible sale or closure of the Ledge, please send a private message to Michelej1. Thanks! :)

wetcamelfood
03-21-2012, 06:26 PM
I posted this in the other thread, but if you've got any questions/comments/concerns/ideas/etc regarding being a Supporting Ledgie, the possible sale or closure of the Ledge, please send a private message to Michelej1. Thanks! :)

I had discussed my idea with Marty when he was selling but he said it wouldn't be possible to only buy part of the site. I only said what I did to point out in agreement with BTFLCHLD that some care more about some parts of the site than others etc. :)

John

HomerMcvie
03-21-2012, 07:32 PM
i do find a tad lame those that can but wont with the reasoning given due to a potentially limited time frame the ledge will be here. maybe time for a bit of payback for what you have enjoyed for so f'in long?!

perhaps the ledge should consider the change to paying membership -- pay or dont play.

May I be honest? I have been here for going on 9 years(with a couple of years missing in action), and of course I love this place. That said, I belong to several boards, and I've never had to pay to belong to another, so that was kind of a foreign concept to me. I guess I'd never really thought about how much it cost to keep one running(I probably would have assumed 10% of what it actually is).

So when I found out that it was in danger of closing, of course I was willing to become a supporting member....I had actually been considering doing far more than that.

BUT, when posts like the above, attempt to SHAME those of us who haven't been supporting members before, into joining, regardless of any questions we may have, well, SHAME on you, for being so aggressive, and condescending. Posts like the above may actually stop people from obtaining supporting status.

Fireflies
03-21-2012, 09:06 PM
May I be honest? I have been here for going on 9 years(with a couple of years missing in action), and of course I love this place. That said, I belong to several boards, and I've never had to pay to belong to another, so that was kind of a foreign concept to me. I guess I'd never really thought about how much it cost to keep one running(I probably would have assumed 10% of what it actually is).

So when I found out that it was in danger of closing, of course I was willing to become a supporting member....I had actually been considering doing far more than that.

BUT, when posts like the above, attempt to SHAME those of us who haven't been supporting members before, into joining, regardless of any questions we may have, well, SHAME on you, for being so aggressive, and condescending. Posts like the above may actually stop people from obtaining supporting status.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-snPv1C8AEg4/TgkdXVweXGI/AAAAAAAAEns/_wDKS1SyHT4/s1600/wahmbulance.jpg

HomerMcvie
03-21-2012, 09:23 PM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-snPv1C8AEg4/TgkdXVweXGI/AAAAAAAAEns/_wDKS1SyHT4/s1600/wahmbulance.jpg

Well good luck with that.




*****

CADreaming
03-21-2012, 09:42 PM
I posted this in the other thread, but if you've got any questions/comments/concerns/ideas/etc regarding being a Supporting Ledgie, the possible sale or closure of the Ledge, please send a private message to Michelej1. Thanks! :)

PAYPAL questions...

If you have not paid via Paypal before you may want to ask others who are familiar with how it works. I had a lot of trouble setting mine up a while back and it wasn't an instant thing. I'm sure there is a way around it, but I found it challenging to navigate in at first. I'm not sure if other payment methods are accepted, but as Louie pointed out you can private message Michele directly at Michelej1 or email at [email protected].

CADreaming
03-22-2012, 08:43 AM
In case anyone has a hard time locating the supporting membership page. You can become a supporting member here: http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/payments.php

Mac Attack
03-22-2012, 09:00 AM
In case anyone has a hard time locating the supporting membership page. You can become a supporting member here: http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/payments.php

Thanks for the link, done. I haven't been on for a while and had no idea there was a problem or what a supporting ledgie was. I do enjoy stopping in and picking up info on my fav band. Thanks to all for your efforts in keeping this going!

holidayroad
03-22-2012, 09:00 AM
BUT, when posts like the above, attempt to SHAME those of us who haven't been supporting members before, into joining, regardless of any questions we may have, well, SHAME on you, for being so aggressive, and condescending. Posts like the above may actually stop people from obtaining supporting status.

I don't feel like anyone is trying to shame someone into contributing. More than one person has said that if someone can't afford to contribute, then they shouldn't worry about it. How's this.....if anyone can contribute, Please do! If you don't want to, then I respect your decision. If you can't afford it, I hope things are better for you soon!

bombaysaffires
03-22-2012, 12:37 PM
Done! Really, $12 is easily pissed away on a couple of mocha-choca-lattes or bottles of nail polish.

Happy to contribute for all the mindless hours I've spent with y'all....:xoxo:

bombaysaffires
03-22-2012, 12:38 PM
PAYPAL questions...

If you have not paid via Paypal before you may want to ask others who are familiar with how it works. I had a lot of trouble setting mine up a while back and it wasn't an instant thing. I'm sure there is a way around it, but I found it challenging to navigate in at first. I'm not sure if other payment methods are accepted, but as Louie pointed out you can private message Michele directly at Michelej1 or email at [email protected].

I found it incredibly easy. I didn't set up an account, I just selected no thanks and continued as a "guest". Done in two minutes.... I used the link posted by CADreaming in post #48.

CADreaming
03-22-2012, 01:05 PM
I would like to offer one Ledgie who would like to contribute but can't afford it at this time, supporting member status for one year. Please PM me if you are interested. First come, first serve. :)

Edit: Offer has been accepted. :)

Jondalar
03-22-2012, 06:15 PM
I just paid my $12. :)

Macfanforever
03-22-2012, 06:40 PM
Come Friday I will become a supporting member. But maybe the mods should hit up Karen and see if Stevie would be up to foot the bill ;)

A great Idea.But, Stevie is not a fan of computers and the internet.It won't work.If I was an artist .I would of help pay the bills or buy the forum out.I would us it as a tool to find out how I'm doing with my true fans.Find out the complaints and clean up the mistakes.She already mentioned this forum or others at one time.Am I right.

poetinmyheart
03-24-2012, 10:26 AM
In case anyone has a hard time locating the supporting membership page. You can become a supporting member here: http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/payments.php

Done. Hope it helps out - I didn't realise the expense of running a website. I just took it for granted. This forum is irreplaceable for Mac fans as far as I'm concerned. It would be a shame to see it go.

For UK Ledgies the $12 worked out less than £8 - a bargain for 12 months if you have the cash to spare.

Tango
06-27-2017, 03:14 PM
Just bumping this thread up - we lost our former owner, who practically single-handedly maintained this place for ten years. Let's try to keep this website alive for the future.

chriskisn
06-28-2017, 07:41 AM
Just bumping this thread up - we lost our former owner, who practically single-handedly maintained this place for ten years. Let's try to keep this website alive for the future.

I was a supporting Ledgie for a long time, but then after being made redundant last year, and not really visiting this place any more, I had to look at other priorities, and even now the income isn't what it used to be.

On this note however, as I don't really come here anymore, is Michelle still the owner or has it changed hands, as I know she was looking at selling at one point?

Tango
06-28-2017, 07:44 AM
I was a supporting Ledgie for a long time, but then after being made redundant last year, and not really visiting this place any more, I had to look at other priorities, and even now the income isn't what it used to be.

On this note however, as I don't really come here anymore, is Michelle still the owner or has it changed hands, as I know she was looking at selling at one point?

There have been some changes going on. ;)

http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showpost.php?p=1210754&postcount=7

chriskisn
06-29-2017, 08:57 AM
There have been some changes going on. ;)

http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showpost.php?p=1210754&postcount=7

Thanks. So who is the new owner? Do we know? I actually wanted to buy this site when Marty was selling and my Fleetwood Mac hating girlfriend wouldn't hear of it. Then I married her, had kids, and couldn't afford it now anyway :lol:

Tango
06-29-2017, 11:46 AM
There has been one post from the new owner so far:

http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showpost.php?p=1210761&postcount=10

That doesn't give you a full introduction, but at least you have a name and a way to contact him.

button-lip
06-29-2017, 05:53 PM
Thanks. So who is the new owner? Do we know? I actually wanted to buy this site when Marty was selling and my Fleetwood Mac hating girlfriend wouldn't hear of it. Then I married her, had kids, and couldn't afford it now anyway :lol:

This has to be funniest story I have heard here! :laugh::laugh::laugh:

Do your now wife still hate FM? :)

I very much doubt I will support again this site next year. I honestly don't see the point. :shrug:

chriskisn
06-30-2017, 08:00 AM
This has to be funniest story I have heard here! :laugh::laugh::laugh:

Do your now wife still hate FM? :)

I very much doubt I will support again this site next year. I honestly don't see the point. :shrug:

Yes, she hates Stevie with a passion. The couple of times we've seen her, she has dearly hoped that she would fall off the stage.

She doesn't mind Lindsey, hates Christine. Her opinions of the other 13 members are varied. There is a Q&A on here somewhere from probably 17 years ago where she told (via me) Rick Vito she thought he was hot. Hell, I think Rick Vito's hot but that's just the guitar playing. :lol:

I'm lucky though that I work with two ladies who love FM, so we do listen to a lot of FM and Stevie at work.

chriskisn
06-30-2017, 08:02 AM
There has been one post from the new owner so far:

http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showpost.php?p=1210761&postcount=10

That doesn't give you a full introduction, but at least you have a name and a way to contact him.

That fully explains the really dodgy ads that are popping up now, I wondered what was going on with that. Russian brides and various dating ones. Just a little bit tacky unfortunately.

FuzzyPlum
06-30-2017, 12:18 PM
That fully explains the really dodgy ads that are popping up now, I wondered what was going on with that. Russian brides and various dating ones. Just a little bit tacky unfortunately.


Really? Where? I don't get them. I thought the ads reflected your search/shopping history. All I get is cheap oil paintings from China, size 9 trainers and Bupa.

Tango
06-30-2017, 12:42 PM
^ This could be a whole new thread: what are your ads today. I have "Men's leather chest bags", an ad about "Jay-Z's" new album and stuff about "fireworks." :lol: I didn't search for any of that!

chriskisn
06-30-2017, 06:50 PM
Really? Where? I don't get them. I thought the ads reflected your search/shopping history. All I get is cheap oil paintings from China, size 9 trainers and Bupa.

I haven't been searching dating sites either. Unless the wife has...

Hawkeye
07-04-2017, 11:26 AM
I haven't been searching dating sites either. Unless the wife has...

You took her to one too many Stevie shows apparently :laugh:

chriskisn
07-05-2017, 07:22 AM
You took her to one too many Stevie shows apparently :laugh:

Yep sadly I did. Twice to Stevie and once to Fleetwood Mac. Enough to drive her insane. Though she did refuse to go to Bob Dylan with me, so there is a limit.

In my defense she did once drag me to Culture Club and the Village People... :laugh: