Do you miss the Eddy Quintela era?

[Villavic]

According to sources, Christine met Eddy Quintela during her solo album production (circa 1984). They got married in 1986 and divorced in the mid 90s, before The Dance.

He co-wrote several songs with Christine. Little Lies, Isn't it Midnight, Temporary One, Save Me, As long as you follow!!, Sooner or Later..

I love Christine songs from that era. I don't think her divorce was the reason for not keep touring with Fleetwood Mac but probably it influenced her decision to retire and live in England. Eddie-Christine songs are beautiful, and Christine songs from 1984 t0 1997 were, many of them, beautiful too, probably inspired in a happy moment of her life. I miss that era, probably her best.

[PenguinHead]

Interesting. I never knew I missed the Quintela era until you mentioned it. I generally think of Christine's songs as self-penned. But she wrote quite a few songs with collaboraters, Eddy being the most prolific. They worked well together. I suppose they are completely estranged now. Was Christine ever on record for saying why they parted?

I don't know much about him. Was he a musician or established in the music industry before meeting Christine?

[HomerMcvie]

I only know that he played keyboards, too....


He has no article on Wiki, so my guess would be no!:lol:

[Matthew]

I love this era. Definitely best era of Christine´s songs in my opinion. I grew up with songs like Everywhere, Little Lies and As Long As You Follow. And when I heard Behind The Mask or Time for the first time I fell in love with Nigths In Estoril .. or Heart Of Stone is great song too. Her work during this time is my favourite much more than Rumours or so...

[vivfox]

Definitely best era of Christine´s songs when I heard Behind The Mask or Time for the first time I fell in love with Nigths In Estoril .

It's on her solo album that came out this century, not Behind The Mask which was released in 1990.

[bangdrum]

Actually, it's on Time which came out in 1995. :p

[vivfox]

Actually, it's on Time which came out in 1995. :p


Touche. You got me. I had that album and gave it away after one listen.

[HomerMcvie]

Touche. You got me. I had that album and gave it away after one listen.

That's how I got my SYW. My friend gave it one listen, hated it, and gave it to me!:laugh:

[David]

I miss the 1974-1976 Christine McVie era.

I had to go look up the Eddy Quintela era.

[HomerMcvie]

I miss the 1974-1976 Christine McVie era.

I had to go look up the Eddy Quintela era.

I miss the 1970-1998 Christine era.


And I wouldn't miss Eddy, if he'd only stand still.:laugh:

[aleuzzi]

I like her collaborations more with her nephew. The songs on ITM are a lot catchier, in the spirit of Christine's 70s work, than with the Eddie collaborations. I do love Little Lies, Hollywood, Temporary One, and Save Me--but I feel that, on the whole, her songs are not as interesting with him. The least impressive song (not performance) on ITM is Easy Come-Easy Go, the only Christine-Eddie collaboration.

[HomerMcvie]

The least impressive song (not performance) on ITM is Easy Come-Easy Go, the only Christine-Eddie collaboration.

I like her collaborations more with her nephew.


I didn't realize that that was an Eddy co-write. But I agree.

Calumny and Northern Star are absolute perfection. And I think the production on both, are better than anything Lindsey could have done.

[chriskisn]

Touche. You got me. I had that album and gave it away after one listen.

You did what? Bad Viv! :mad:


:lol:

[aleuzzi]

Calumny and Northern Star are absolute perfection. And I think the production on both, are better than anything Lindsey could have done.

Agreed! Both of those, btw, are Danny Perfect songs. Her vocals on both of them are terrific.

[michelej1]

I didn't realize that that was an Eddy co-write. But I agree.

Calumny and Northern Star are absolute perfection. And I think the production on both, are better than anything Lindsey could have done.

Calumny is one of the Top 5 songs in her career, in my estimation. The lyrics are captivating. Her voice is so expressive, worn, pained, craggy, jagged. She's got such masterful control of her tone, giving us the message in each line.

Northern Star is my second favorite song on the album. The production on it is fine, but I do wonder about an FM arrangement, if not on the record, then in concert. This is the one song on that album that I would have liked her to do at a Fleetwood Mac concert. I wouldn't have anyone else but her on vocal, but I would like to hear the rest of the band playing along with her, especially at the song's end.

Michele

[aleuzzi]

Northern Star is my second favorite song on the album. The production on it is fine, but I do wonder about an FM arrangement, if not on the record, then in concert.

Michele

Lindsey would've probably used studio gadgetry on her voice, like he did on Tango, like he does for himself. One of the things I love about ITM is the arrangements are spare and feature her voice in its unaltered glory. Not since Tusk did she sound that good in the studio. The no-touring thing agrees with her.

Of all the songs on ITM, the one closest to an FM song is, I think, Giving it Back, which sounds like it could have fallen off Mirage. Great tune!

[Rod~A~Little]

I also seemed to have permently misplaced my Time cd until about a month ago. I rediscovered Nights In Estoril and noticed that Eddy was a co-writer. Then I remembered all the great songs they collaborated on.

It would have been interesting to hear what might have been had they stayed together. Oh well,..

[HomerMcvie]

I also seemed to have permently misplaced my Time cd until about a month ago. I rediscovered Nights In Estoril and noticed that Eddy was a co-writer. Then I remembered all the great songs they collaborated on.

It would have been interesting to hear what might have been had they stayed together. Oh well,..

Do we really know the reason for the breakup? I don't recall that I've ever heard one.

He must either be a cheater, or an ass....(couldn't be Chris' fault....*sticking fingers into my ears, "la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la"*)

[michelej1]

Do we really know the reason for the breakup? I don't recall that I've ever heard one.

He must either be a cheater, or an ass....(couldn't be Chris' fault....*sticking fingers into my ears, "la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la"*)

I remember around The Dance, Stevie said that Eddy said that if Christine toured, he was leaving. That seemed so odd. If Christine shared that ultimatum with Stevie, I don't know why she went public with it. But I don't know why Eddy would take that stand anyway. I would have guessed that she would be more opposed to touring than he would. Touring helped earn the money that would keep him living in the style to which he'd become accustomed.:laugh:.

Michele

[michelej1]

Lindsey would've probably used studio gadgetry on her voice, like he did on Tango, like he does for himself.

I was most interested in what FM would do to the song in concert. The ending seemed like something that would be quite rousing on stage.

Michele

[HomerMcvie]

I remember around The Dance, Stevie said that Eddy said that if Christine toured, he was leaving. That seemed so odd. If Christine shared that ultimatum with Stevie, I don't know why she went public with it. But I don't know why Eddy would take that stand anyway. I would have guessed that she would be more opposed to touring than he would. Touring helped earn the money that would keep him living in the style to which he'd become accustomed.:laugh:.

Michele

Well I'll put that in the "ass" category! :laugh:

I know, though. Wouldn't he want Momma bringing home some extra big bucks?

I can't imagine Christine caving to anyone's ultimatums.

[Rod~A~Little]

Yes, what an ass!...And seriously? Like he didn't know what he was getting into when he met Christine!

Geez!!!!

[Villavic]

Yes, what an ass!...And seriously? Like he didn't know what he was getting into when he met Christine!

Geez!!!!

C&E met in 1984, The Dance was in 1997, so definitely he knew. I think there were more reasons than a tour. Don't know about the source that says Stevie said that (or is there a video?) but I can't believe they separated just because of the 1997 Reunion tour. Or maybe Eddie said that within a more complex context.

I just think the relationship was going bad in the last years and they finally broke up.

[Richard B]

I think there was a big age gap between Christine and Eddy, with Christine being older. I know some people think age doesn't matter, but I think it does. Not so much in loving, but in practical daily life it sure does. I will not date anyone younger than 30.

[michelej1]

I think there was a big age gap between Christine and Eddy, with Christine being older. I know some people think age doesn't matter, but I think it does. Not so much in loving, but in practical daily life it sure does. I will not date anyone younger than 30.

But it was a long term relationship, even if it eventually ended. I think if they were just bascially ill-suited for each other those kind of things break up in a couple of years. Michele

[Hellolovely]

What ever happened to Mr Q? He seems to have just disappeared.

[chiliD]

What ever happened to Mr Q? He seems to have just disappeared.

His "15 minutes" was up...probably disappeared back into the Estoril alleyways after the pumpkin carriage turned back into a real pumpkin.


I'd read in some article back around the Dance tour time (can't remember exactly where) that there were some fidelity issues with Eddy while Christine was away during the Dance tour.

[Aisling]

His "15 minutes" was up...probably disappeared back into the Estoril alleyways after the pumpkin carriage turned back into a real pumpkin.

This visual provided me with a much needed laugh today. I see him in that alleyway now, stumbling about, crying into his beer!

[michelej1]

When they divorced, it was really quiet. We didn't hear about the filing like we just did with Mick and Lynn. I wonder if Mr. Quintela asked for any support.

Michele

[SteveMacD]

Maybe EQ had an issue with Christine being in Fleetwood Mac at that point. She retired from the road in 1990 and her "Time" songs made it obvious that she was done with Fleetwood Mac. Suddenly, she started doing session work with Lindsey, Mick and John which morphed into Fleetwood Mac's "Hell Freezes Over" type live reunion album/DVD/TV event. Then there was a short 40-city tour. Not only was she back with Fleetwood Mac, but she was also touring with them? And you know there was a lot of pressure for them to continue that tour. Those things can be tough on a spouse. The industry pressure alone can be too much.

Not defending the guy. Just putting it in a different perspective.

As for his Cinderella story ending, he still gets royalty checks, so he has to be doing pretty well.

[michelej1]

Yes, I did an IMDB search and Eddy's name came up when Little Lies appeared on Dancing with the Stars and in some movie. So, if it ever breaks out again the way Everywhere just did, he can be rolling in the moolah like it was still 1987.

Michele

[Hellolovely]

By all accounts he seemed like a pretty decent guy and they were certainly together for quite a while (14 years). I think it's great that they were able to separate and have it kept very quiet and private without having a tabloid-spun blow by blow in the press; that says a lot about both of them. I know he was into music before he met Chris, and certainly was during their marriage, and I thought I read he moved back to Lisbon - was just curious if he was still in the music business at all.

[becca]

Eddy Quintela was a musician and song writer before crossing paths with Christine. He was very talented in both areas and the songs are great but the heavy-handed, usually boringly synthesized, product that was produced in those years doesn't stand up well I don't feel. People like Buckingham are to blame spending over a year per album polishing and tweaking... it probably really got started with Brian Wilson and John Phillips before him though. I would love to have earlier versions of all those songs!

I gave away the double LP Tusk after one listen in 1979-80, so if someone did the same with Time I can't really fault them on just that. I didn't even buy Time myself until quite some time later. I like and respect Buckingham as a guitarist and singer, but most of Tusk belonged on a solo album of his own.

[Dex]

Eddy Quintela was a musician and song writer before crossing paths with Christine. He was very talented in both areas and the songs are great but the heavy-handed, usually boringly synthesized, product that was produced in those years doesn't stand up well I don't feel.

I can see how people could think that. But heavily-synthed and arguably over-produced Christine songs are actually the ones that work best for me. Maybe because she's never been a singer/songwriter that packs a huge emotional wallop for me (with a few exceptions), I find that sort of treatment suits her songs well in a way that I don't find at all when LB does it to his own writing. With Chris, I don't feel like anything is really lost in the production, and I don't think I'd really appreciate an earlier demo of these songs all that much. The finished products are pure pop perfection to my ears, and in a way I'm sorry that a lot of her best Quintela collabs are on BTM and Time, because a lot of people are really missing out.

I'm actually a bad Mac fan. I just assumed that Everywhere was a Quintela collaboration along with Little Lies, just because of how darn snappy it is. I need to pay more attention to liner notes!

[Hellolovely]

Does anyone else get a chuckle out of the fact that Eddy's daughters name is "Sara"? :laugh:

[Ulpian]

Does anyone else get a chuckle out of the fact that Eddy's daughters name is "Sara"? :laugh:

How do we know this? I missed out that he had kid(s).

[Hellolovely]

Unfortunately all I know for sure is that he has a daughter named Sara. She was born sometime after he and Chris divorced, I believe.

[michelej1]

Of course, I don't know what Eddy looks like these days and what kind of shape he is in, but remember back then it was noteworthy that Chris was with a younger man. Today, I'm sure if you saw them together, no one would guess that he was the younger one.

Michele

[Ulpian]

Of course, I don't know what Eddy looks like these days and what kind of shape he is in, but remember back then it was noteworthy that Chris was with a younger man. Today, I'm sure if you saw them together, no one would guess that he was the younger one.

Michele

I saw some photos of him circa 2000 and he had a new girlfriend and had become, recently, a US citizen. I still have no idea what he does (or did). He could still be involved in music somehow. Who knows?

[Villavic]

How do we know this? I missed out that he had kid(s).

And Sara's sisters are Greta, Jane and Annabel Lee? ;)

[redbird]

It's not my favorite era, but I don't know if it's because of Eddy Quintela or if it's just some of the musical fashions of that time period that I don't care for. Lots of artists have written differently in different pop culture environments. And there are other Christine/Mac songs from that era that weren't co-written by him that I also don't care for. So I dunno if it has much to do with him in particular. I do like "Little Lies" a lot.

[aleuzzi]

To my ears, the best Christine-Eddy collaborations are "Little Lies," Hollywood," "Nights in Estoril" and "Temporary One."

I am not a huge fan of their collaborations in general. A song like "Skies the Limit": decent, attractive verse ruined by a bad chorus. The same thing with "Love Will Show Us How" (not an Eddy collaboration). In both cases, the verse sounds very much like Christine. The chorus--whoever penned it, doesn't fit with her voice. One of the things I love about In the Meantime is that the Christine-Dan Perfect collaborations sound a lot tighter and more original. I know some people don't like the production on the album but I don't think anyone can say a bad thing about the songs...

[michelej1]

To my ears, the best Christine-Eddy collaborations are "Little Lies," Hollywood," "Nights in Estoril" and "Temporary One."

I am not a huge fan of their collaborations in general. A song like "Skies the Limit": decent, attractive verse ruined by a bad chorus. The same thing with "Love Will Show Us How" (not an Eddy collaboration). In both cases, the verse sounds very much like Christine. The chorus--whoever penned it, doesn't fit with her voice. One of the things I love about In the Meantime is that the Christine-Dan Perfect collaborations sound a lot tighter and more original. I know some people don't like the production on the album but I don't think anyone can say a bad thing about the songs...

I can say a lot of bad things about the songs (Liar). But the ones Dan wrote alone, Calumny and Northern Star are some of the most perfect things I've ever heard, with Christine singing them the way she does.

Michele

[aleuzzi]

I can say a lot of bad things about the songs (Liar). But the ones Dan wrote alone, Calumny and Northern Star are some of the most perfect things I've ever heard, with Christine singing them the way she does.

Michele

Boooh. Those songs are terrific. I even love Liar. No lie.

[jbrownsjr]

Boooh. Those songs are terrific. I even love Liar. No lie.

Liar has really grown on me recently!! I can't believe it either. I completely understand exactly what she means in the lyrics.

[ejb1969]

I think her use of metaphors and other references in 'Liar' is interesting:

IMO, the song is definitely about Eddie:

How to read the Jack of Hearts:

Traditionally the Jack of Hearts is a card of romance. In some of the older cartomancy meanings he represents a lazy, immature, emotionally insecure young man; or simply the thoughts of the Queen or King of Hearts. Although Jacks can represent young people of either sex, the Jack of Hearts is most often read as a young male.

The Jack of Hearts is a young person of either sex with whom the querent feels an emotional bond or attachment. This card can represent a child of either sex, a male family member such as a son or son-in-law, brother, cousin, etc. The Jack of Hearts can also indicate a boyfriend, a male lover, or close male friend.

The J♥ can be an actor or an artist. He can be a writer of poetry, or just a student of the arts.

Source http://cartomancy.wordpress.com/2007/09/10/jack-of-hearts/

I always thought the "clown" lyric was a reference to the Everly Brothers song 'Cathy's Clown'...

Levels of venom abound, most certainly!

[aleuzzi]

Liar has really grown on me recently!! I can't believe it either. I completely understand exactly what she means in the lyrics.

If you can empathize with the lyrics in liar then that means things aren't going that well romantically! LOL. Hope that's not the case.

[Newzchspy]

Liar has really grown on me recently!! I can't believe it either. I completely understand exactly what she means in the lyrics.

Wasn't Liar about EQ?? I always thought it was??

[jbrownsjr]

If you can empathize with the lyrics in liar then that means things aren't going that well romantically! LOL. Hope that's not the case.

I had a relationship in the past around 2005 that fell under that umbrella. Thanks for the concern, it means a lot. :xoxo:

[jbrownsjr]

Wasn't Liar about EQ?? I always thought it was??

It was either about him, or her new boyfriend after him. I'm of course speculating.

[michelej1]

I think her use of metaphors and other references in 'Liar' is interesting:


The use of metaphors itself is fine and I would have welcomed unique ones. This song just contains a lot of cliched phrases. When you take one and put a spin on it, it's hooky. I have no problem with Heart of Stone, but when you throw several hackneyed words into one song, it begins to sound like lazy writing to me and the music doesn't do anything to transcend the weak lyrics.

I think Liar is catchy enough though, but disappointingly trite. A woman who has used the words "woo me until the sun comes up, then you say that you love me" to imply lying (and her feelings about knowingly being lied to) so beautifully, pains me with Jack of Hearts, shining knight, heart of darkness, walls came tumbling down, roll of the dice, clowns. It's like someone knocked her on the head with a thick volume of adages. I wish someone would have treated the concussion.

Then, we had 2 other songs with schlocky background vocals that would have fit on a 1972 sitcom. But then you had 9 other songs that held their own. Some were good and some were great. Two were some of the best of Christine's career. So, on balance, pretty good album.

Michele

[jbrownsjr]

It's like someone knocked her on the head with a thick volume of adages.
Michele

Haha!! I pictured this like in a Family Guy ep...

[Ulpian]

It was either about him, or her new boyfriend after him. I'm of course speculating.

I thought it was about the guy she had recently split up with in 2004. She said in her interviews that generally most of the songs were about her feelings as that relationship ran its course.

I like Liar.

Michele - which songs on ITM do you think are her best?

[jbrownsjr]

I thought it was about the guy she had recently split up with in 2004. She said in her interviews that generally most of the songs were about her feelings as that relationship ran its course.

I like Liar.

Michele - which songs on ITM do you think are her best?

Yes, I believe so Ulpian. My memory is fuzzy is all.

[michelej1]

Michele - which songs on ITM do you think are her best?

I like all of them except Bad Journey and Easy Come, Easy Go.

Calumny, Northern Star and Friend are my favorites.

I don't dislike Liar. I just think the lyrics are really cheesy.

Michele

[Ulpian]

I like all of them except Bad Journey and Easy Come, Easy Go.

Calumny, Northern Star and Friend are my favorites.

I don't dislike Liar. I just think the lyrics are really cheesy.

Michele

I like So Sincere, You Are, Friend, Liar, Calumny and Northern Star.

I am glad to hear that Mick says she is writing again and "back in the world". God knows what has prompted this, but let's hope she releases something new!

[aleuzzi]

I like So Sincere, You Are, Friend, Liar, Calumny and Northern Star.

I am glad to hear that Mick says she is writing again and "back in the world". God knows what has prompted this, but let's hope she releases something new!

I just have this feeling another album will come. Maybe it's wishful thinking, but I just have the feeling.

My favorite ITM songs are Forgiveness, Calumny, Bad Journey, and the acoustic version of Friend. But I love the whole thing, even Easy Come but only because the vocal is so strong.

[ejb1969]

I haven't been able to find the acoustic version of Friend anywhere. Can someone upload it for me, please?

[jbrownsjr]

My favs are Bad Journey, Anything is Possible, You Are, Friend, Calumny, So Sincere, Northern Star, Forgiveness, Givin it Back, Liar (getting there)

then Easy Come Easy Go, Sweet Revenge.. ehhhh


Pretty damn good album..

[jbrownsjr]

I really like Come Out to Play as well... lest not forget...

[michelej1]

I really like Come Out to Play as well... lest not forget...

Me too. That's one of my favorites actually, if I was ranking them. It would have made the album cut for me, for sure.

Michele

[jbrownsjr]

Me too. That's one of my favorites actually, if I was ranking them. It would have made the album cut for me, for sure.

Michele

The lyrics kind of bother me on this one as well...

"One thing could lead to another, I believe we should stay sister and brother.
Oh don't you that I'm human?" And you are sexy knight".. :laugh:

Sounds like a movie soundtrack that she wrote the song and video for album soundtrack. :laugh:

[michelej1]

"One thing could lead to another, I believe we should stay sister and brother.
Oh don't you that I'm human?" And you are sexy knight".. :laugh:


She says "and you are a sexy man" or were you just kidding?

Well, she does use the line "moth to a flame" in this one as well. But I enjoy her delivery and the music so much, I didn't dwell on the cliches like I do with Liar.

I would say Come Out to Play would make my top 5 of Meantime songs.

Michele

[jbrownsjr]

She says "and you are a sexy man" or were you just kidding?

Well, she does use the line "moth to a flame" in this one as well. But I enjoy her delivery and the music so much, I didn't dwell on the cliches like I do with Liar.

I would say Come Out to Play would make my top 5 of Meantime songs.

Michele

twas kidding.... but yeah I love the tone of her voice on this track.. reminds me of the same timbre used in Bad Journey... very nice delivery..

[Ulpian]

She says "and you are a sexy man" or were you just kidding?

Well, she does use the line "moth to a flame" in this one as well. But I enjoy her delivery and the music so much, I didn't dwell on the cliches like I do with Liar.

I would say Come Out to Play would make my top 5 of Meantime songs.

Michele

I cringe at COTP. The lyrics seem starkly puerile to me. I'm not fond of the lyrics of Calumny either, but it's such a beautiful song otherwise that I can get over that pretty easily.

[Chris_Lover]

Eddy Quintela was a musician and song writer before crossing paths with Christine. He was very talented in both areas and the songs are great but the heavy-handed, usually boringly synthesized, product that was produced in those years doesn't stand up well I don't feel. People like Buckingham are to blame spending over a year per album polishing and tweaking... it probably really got started with Brian Wilson and John Phillips before him though. I would love to have earlier versions of all those songs!

I gave away the double LP Tusk after one listen in 1979-80, so if someone did the same with Time I can't really fault them on just that. I didn't even buy Time myself until quite some time later. I like and respect Buckingham as a guitarist and singer, but most of Tusk belonged on a solo album of his own.

I agree with Becca when she says that those songs Chris wrote in the mid 80s were heavily synthesized and sounded very similar to LB songs from Tusk onwards (with all due respect to his fans), but imho Quitela era wasn't that bad. Some of her masterpieces have been released during that time, just think about "Ricky", "Little lies", "Everywhere" and "Isn't it midnight"...anyway, we are talking about the 80s, the era of synthesizers and first computers, so it's no wonder if she too was fascinated by new technologies applied to music back then. :shrug:

[michelej1]

October 18, 2013, This day in history:

http://www.wplr.com/home/2013/10/18/this-day-in-music-history-october-18th

1986: Fleetwood Mac singer and keyboardist Christine McVie got married for the second time, marrying Portuguese composer Eduardo Quintela in London. The couple would later divorce in the mid 1990’s.

[HomerMcvie]

October 18, 2013, This day in history:

http://www.wplr.com/home/2013/10/18/this-day-in-music-history-october-18th

1986: Fleetwood Mac singer and keyboardist Christine McVie got married for the second time, marrying Portuguese composer Eduardo Quintela in London. The couple would later divorce in the mid 1990’s.

Does anyone know if they had a pre-nup, or if he walked with a boatload of money when they were done?

[jbrownsjr]

October 18, 2013, This day in history:

http://www.wplr.com/home/2013/10/18/this-day-in-music-history-october-18th

1986: Fleetwood Mac singer and keyboardist Christine McVie got married for the second time, marrying Portuguese composer Eduardo Quintela in London. The couple would later divorce in the mid 1990’s.

Are there any photos of the wedding?

[michelej1]

Are there any photos of the wedding?

I wonder what she wore to the wedding.

Michele

[jbrownsjr]

I wonder what she wore to the wedding.

Michele

Knowing her, the Seven Wonders outfit. either one of them.. . (which I love those btw)

[Hellolovely]

I remember an article saying they had a small ceremony in London with family and close friends, and that the bride did not wear white to the wedding.

I also like to think Chris's "team" would have made sure she was protected financially. It isn't like Eddie would have needed the money anyway - the way I understand it he comes from a very wealthy family.

[Villavic]

I remember an article saying they had a small ceremony in London with family and close friends, and that the bride did not wear white to the wedding.

Seems band members weren't at the wedding, and no party like Mick's wedding (a youtube video of this was posted months ago, where you can see Stevie dancing)

[Wendy Welch]

Firstly, you should know I was around and had quite a few dinners and parties with Eddie Q. I must say you are all very misinformed about him. I personally have an opinion along with my dead husband about Eddie co-writing any of the songs with Christine. At the time all of the insiders would make fun of the Broke younger Duke Eddie that married Christine for her money, as per Judy Wong. Also, the insiders said that Eddie married her for her money and she married him for the title and his youth. But that is just what I heard and cannot back it up with facts. Also I was told that he cheated with her assistants, which caused the divorce:shrug:. Of course, this could be just rumours, but they were certainly rampant among the FM band and insiders. But it might shed light on some of your misconceptions. I would like to hear something otherwise from those in the know. I would be interested to hear the rebuttal as well as you would!

[Hellolovely]

I work with someone who knows Eddie - I've heard he is a nice guy, and not at all "broke". His family is pretty wealthy and well known in his hometown. Him and Christine were together for quite a while so I can't imagine they didn't genuinely love each other, but yes, there are several rumors that he cheated toward the end. Apparently too, from what I've been told, Christine was quite heartbroken and did not really want the divorce.

[Villavic]

I agree with Becca when she says that those songs Chris wrote in the mid 80s were heavily synthesized and sounded very similar to LB songs from Tusk onwards (with all due respect to his fans), but imho Quitela era wasn't that bad. Some of her masterpieces have been released during that time, just think about "Ricky", "Little lies", "Everywhere" and "Isn't it midnight"...anyway, we are talking about the 80s, the era of synthesizers and first computers, so it's no wonder if she too was fascinated by new technologies applied to music back then. :shrug:

Those "heavily synthesized" Chris songs from that era... I would love to listen them in more acoustic versions. It should be interesting.

[Macfan4life]

I always loved Eddy. He winked at me because he was playing keyboards and could not wave. During Christine's solo tour of 1984 she would take center mic for about 3 songs and he would come on stage and take her seat behind her keyboards. I was 14 and there with friends. We waved and he winked at us :)
I read this whole thread to make sure I had not commented on already. Yes Eddy wrote some great songs with Chris. However, Eddy was the inspiration for one of Chris's best songs ever Nights in Estoril. That song makes me want to visit Estoril.

[jbrownsjr]

I always loved Eddy. He winked at me because he was playing keyboards and could not wave. During Christine's solo tour of 1984 she would take center mic for about 3 songs and he would come on stage and take her seat behind her keyboards. I was 14 and there with friends. We waved and he winked at us :)
I read this whole thread to make sure I had not commented on already. Yes Eddy wrote some great songs with Chris. However, Eddy was the inspiration for one of Chris's best songs ever Nights in Estoril. That song makes me want to visit Estoril.

I love Sooner or Later and the beautiful atmospheric keys and strings tinkling away throughout the instrumental breaks. I believe that's a co-write w/ Eddy. It also has such a gorgeous melody. And Mick gives a sort of "syncopated" drum solo at the end.

[David]

What about I Do? Is that Eddie behind the pen?

[Villavic]

What about I Do? Is that Eddie behind the pen?

Yes, his name appears in the song credits.

[jbrownsjr]

What about I Do? Is that Eddie behind the pen?

I always wondered what this song would song like on an acoustic piano. I love the song and wish it was a little more organic. I believe it's a co-write, too.

[Villavic]

So sad to read Eddy passed away. I reiterate that I adore many songs from those years

[jbrownsjr]

So sad to read Eddy passed away. I reiterate that I adore many songs from those years

They really had a great chemistry. Great ideas. He stretched her out.

[SteveMacD]

They really had a great chemistry. Great ideas. He stretched her out.

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[jbrownsjr]

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Haha!! You are crazier than Karen! :wavey:

But seriously, Love Shines, Heart of Stone, Sooner or Later, ALAYF
I know you hear the nuances that Eddy brought. I would have loved a Quintela/McVie album. Maybe something like: Christine McVie The Reds and Blues of Love 1985.

If she kept writing hits like Got A Hold On Me and Toured albums like Stevie. My guess is she would be somewhere between Nicks and Buck in sales and tour grossing. Guesting Stevie would have helped, too.

Too bad she was tired by the mid 80's. It was nearing 20 years of touring and making records by 1985. But her writing had a lot of potential. Friend and You Are would have been stellar in the 80's. As we saw by 1990's tour she was burnt, leaving the Dance her final contributions. I never really liked Temp. One. Always thought it was vanilla compared to ALAYF, and the above.

[jmn3]

Haha!! You are crazier than Karen! :wavey:

But seriously, Love Shines, Heart of Stone, Sooner or Later, ALAYF
I know you hear the nuances that Eddy brought. I would have loved a Quintela/McVie album. Maybe something like: Christine McVie The Reds and Blues of Love 1985.

If she kept writing hits like Got A Hold On Me and Toured albums like Stevie. My guess is she would be somewhere between Nicks and Buck in sales and tour grossing. Guesting Stevie would have helped, too.

Too bad she was tired by the mid 80's. It was nearing 20 years of touring and making records by 1985. But her writing had a lot of potential. Friend and You Are would have been stellar in the 80's. As we saw by 1990's tour she was burnt, leaving the Dance her final contributions. I never really liked Temp. One. Always thought it was vanilla compared to ALAYF, and the above.

There are so many "what if" scenarios with these people and this band that it's hard to believe they left so many different opportunities on the table over the years. I never thought of this one, but you're right, Chris was on fire in the 80's and if she kept writing and churning out hits I think she could have had a very successful solo career.

Temporary One is about as milquetoast and "Chris by numbers" of a song that could have been put on The Dance. It's serviceable but plain and boring. It doesn't belong in the same sentence as As Long as You Follow. I truly believe ALAYF belongs in the Top 5 Christine songs of her entire career. It's sublime. Even though the Greatest Hits album continues to sell, I feel like nobody knows the song and that's a shame.

[Macfan4life]

Haha!! You are crazier than Karen! :wavey:

But seriously, Love Shines, Heart of Stone, Sooner or Later, ALAYF
I know you hear the nuances that Eddy brought. I would have loved a Quintela/McVie album. Maybe something like: Christine McVie The Reds and Blues of Love 1985.

If she kept writing hits like Got A Hold On Me and Toured albums like Stevie. My guess is she would be somewhere between Nicks and Buck in sales and tour grossing. Guesting Stevie would have helped, too.

Too bad she was tired by the mid 80's. It was nearing 20 years of touring and making records by 1985. But her writing had a lot of potential. Friend and You Are would have been stellar in the 80's. As we saw by 1990's tour she was burnt, leaving the Dance her final contributions. I never really liked Temp. One. Always thought it was vanilla compared to ALAYF, and the above.
I dont think she was tired in the mid 80s. She was on top of her game. She claimed to be the only member of the band that actually enjoyed making the Tango album. She also seemed to really enjoy the Tango tour. The 1994 California earthquake really freaked her out and she decided to pack up and move back to England. She agreed to do the Dance but clearly she was not having fun and would not budge on extending even a few dates.
She was loyal to the band even doing Time in 1995. I think her father's death in 1990 was the turning point for her to finally hang it up. The Mac shut down the tour for a few months but she and the band made up the dates. It was this time that she put out the statement the newly "Farewell tour" would be her last.

[jbrownsjr]

I dont think she was tired in the mid 80s. She was on top of her game. She claimed to be the only member of the band that actually enjoyed making the Tango album. She also seemed to really enjoy the Tango tour. The 1994 California earthquake really freaked her out and she decided to pack up and move back to England. She agreed to do the Dance but clearly she was not having fun and would not budge on extending even a few dates.
She was loyal to the band even doing Time in 1995. I think her father's death in 1990 was the turning point for her to finally hang it up. The Mac shut down the tour for a few months but she and the band made up the dates. It was this time that she put out the statement the newly "Farewell tour" would be her last.

I don't think her writing declined. I think she was burning out as the 80's progressed. The Tusk Tour took a lot out of all 5 of them.

I give kudos to Stevie Nicks for how much work she put in. Back then it wasn't all ego. I felt that she loved to write, and perform. And that she did.

Christine mentioned wanting to just sit by the pool between albums and tours. I wished she had done more solo work. She was good at it. I love her 3 1/2 albums and the Chicken Shack cuts of hers.

The small tour in 1984 really got me hooked into her crafts. Her quirky keyboard playing, her unique voice, and her nutty personality.

By 1990 I think she was done with the Rock life. I saw her personality change from Tango to BTM. But the time the Dance reunion, she looked beautiful, but burnt. She was on fumes for that tour.

[Macfan4life]

I don't think her writing declined. I think she was burning out as the 80's progressed. The Tusk Tour took a lot out of all 5 of them.

I give kudos to Stevie Nicks for how much work she put in. Back then it wasn't all ego. I felt that she loved to write, and perform. And that she did.

Christine mentioned wanting to just sit by the pool between albums and tours. I wished she had done more solo work. She was good at it. I love her 3 1/2 albums and the Chicken Shack cuts of hers.

The small tour in 1984 really got me hooked into her crafts. Her quirky keyboard playing, her unique voice, and her nutty personality.

By 1990 I think she was done with the Rock life. I saw her personality change from Tango to BTM. But the time the Dance reunion, she looked beautiful, but burnt. She was on fumes for that tour.
She definitely was not having fun during the Dance. You could see it in her face. I think she committed to the Dance in her usual Christine fashion of always putting the band before herself. She did it for them. It also was good for her and put some major cash into her life before her retirement.
The Eagles reunion really made it happen. The promoters saw how much money they were making and convinced everyone to come back and the money was too good to pass up. The Dance tour was sold out everywhere. I remember standing in line and they had to raffle places in line. I was lucky and got in relatively early to buy tickets yet did not score good seats.

[jbrownsjr]

She definitely was not having fun during the Dance. You could see it in her face. I think she committed to the Dance in her usual Christine fashion of always putting the band before herself. She did it for them. It also was good for her and put some major cash into her life before her retirement.
The Eagles reunion really made it happen. The promoters saw how much money they were making and convinced everyone to come back and the money was too good to pass up. The Dance tour was sold out everywhere. I remember standing in line and they had to raffle places in line. I was lucky and got in relatively early to buy tickets yet did not score good seats.

When I stood in line to get tickets, they had a line for every member. Nobody cared they just wanted to get in the smallest line to get those tickets. The lines were huge.