So what is it with Stevie and ugly men!?

[Rod~A~Little]

I was wondering why a beautiful woman such as Stevie has dated....uh well...some not so attractive men.

Okay, so Lindsey was the exception to the rule, but...

Mick Fleetwood
Jimmy Iovine
Joe Walsh
Rupert Hine (?)

Yikes!....

[Silver Springs]

Although I would never dane to call Mick "ugly" (Well...maybe during his Uncle Fester period) I am so glad you didn't add Lindsey to this list lol.

Honestly. I would have been concerned for your safety.

XD

[CADreaming]

I was wondering why a beautiful woman such as Stevie has dated....uh well...some not so attractive men.

Okay, so Lindsey was the exception to the rule, but...

Mick Fleetwood
Jimmy Iovine
Joe Walsh
Rupert Hine (?)

Yikes!....

I 'm guessing her judgement was impaired and/or she didn't have on her glasses.

[beccamorrisfift]

Maybe their talents were located further south?

;)

[poetinmyheart]

Maybe their talents were located further south?

;)

Hahahaha Becca - hilarious :laugh:

[bluefox4000]

I've thought about this. Aside from Linds and Henley, who are attractive to me, Yikes!!!!! Joe Walsh.....head for the freakin' hills:laugh:

Mick

[Macfanforever]

I guess I will have no problem dating her.LOL,Hahaha I would not say anything negetive about Mick He's bigger then most of us.

[olive]

maybe she's not so superficial, and is attracted to the person or a quality they possess , just cuz the package is pretty doesn't mean what's inside is good

[gldstwmn]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

[WildHearted]

I guess she's just not as superficial and/or shallow as most of us. ~Looks beyond the surface, etc.

[michelej1]

maybe she's not so superficial, and is attracted to the person or a quality they possess , just cuz the package is pretty doesn't mean what's inside is good

Yes, I think she likes people she perceives as talented. Then, once you love someone, you think they're attractive anyway. When she said her brother was handsome, I don't think she was being kind. I think she believes Chris Nicks is gorgeous. She may have realized that Waddy was ugly when she first met him, but I wouldn't be surprised if she considers him quite handsome now. Heck, I think Mick is gross a lot of the time, but after all these years of being an FM fans, I truly see beauty there on other occasions.

Michele

[vivfox]

Heck, I think Mick is gross a lot of the time, but after all these years of being a FM fan, I truly see beauty there on other occasions.


I always thought Mick was hideously ugly until this century. Now I actually see him as an attractive man. Rupert Hine is hideously ugly, period. However, I haven't seen a pic of him past 1989. I often have thought that I wish I could look past a cute face and into the soul of a man. Truthfully I am so tired of searching for love that I wish I would wake up one morning and never again be concerned with how cute a guy is and really fall for someone I truly LIKE being with. But it will probably never happen. I don't know if it's a gay guy thing or not but cuteness always seems to be the number one factor in a relationship for me in deciding if I want a man or not.

Back on topic, because this thread is about Stevie, I've often thought that a woman would be with a homely man because he could take care of her needs financially and in Stevie's case that he could help her become more successful somehow.

[bombaysaffires]

I was wondering why a beautiful woman such as Stevie has dated....uh well...some not so attractive men.

Okay, so Lindsey was the exception to the rule, but...

Mick Fleetwood
Jimmy Iovine
Joe Walsh
Rupert Hine (?)

Yikes!....

It's her fascination with Beauty and the Beast....she sees the beauty that no one else sees.

[michelej1]

I always thought Mick was hideously ugly until this century.

I don't think Mick's looks have improved this century. Your change of view probably has more to do on what's happened to you on the inside, than what's happened to him on the outside.

And for me, voice alters my perspective too. Obviously, Mr. Wonderful and Heroes are Hard to Find album covers give me nightmares. But sometimes when I hear Mick's clipped, dulcet tones in an interview, I'm kind of charmed. His sound makes him look nicer. Then, again his personality causes him to lose the ground he's gained. I think of the guy who proposed to a woman who just got out of bed with another man and I'm repulsed all over again.

Back on topic, because this thread is about Stevie, I've often thought that a woman would be with a homely man because he could take care of her needs financially and in Stevie's case that he could help her become more successful somehow.

Yes. Mick mentioned that even though Rhiannon was a hit from the start and he also told her how important she was to Over My Head's success, Stevie was still insecure about her place in the band. I have no doubt that part of her attraction to him was the fact that he was the head of the group in which she wanted to solidify her claim. If Lindsey made any move to push her out, aligning with Mick would give her the power needed to fight back. Of course, I feel she did the same thing in Fritz. She'd have had a 40 year love/hate relationship with Bob Aguirre if she thought he had the potential to go places back then.

We gravitate towards those who might offer us security, career wise, home wise, financially and it's not necessarily a calculated thing. It's often instinctive. Just the way you start nesting when a baby is on the way. You are physically and emotionally drawn to things that might bring you comfort and stability.

Michele

[CADreaming]

Yes. Mick mentioned that even though Rhiannon was a hit from the start and he also told her how important she was to Over My Head's success, Stevie was still insecure about her place in the band. I have no doubt that part of her attraction to him was the fact that he was the head of the group in which she wanted to solidify her claim. If Lindsey made any move to push her out, aligning with Mick would give her the power needed to fight back. Of course, I feel she did the same thing in Fritz. She'd have had a 40 year love/hate relationship with Bob Aguirre if she thought he had the potential to go places back then.

We gravitate towards those who might offer us security, career wise, home wise, financially and it's not necessarily a calculated thing. It's often instinctive. Just the way you start nesting when a baby is on the way. You are physically and emotionally drawn to things that might bring you comfort and stability.

Michele

I wonder when she was done with that? When did she feel she was independent enough to not have to seek a relationship with a man based on her need to secure her place in a band or use them for career advancement?

Good thing she realized that Lindsey could do greater things than Fritz. Otherwise, maybe they would still be in San Francisco singing in steakhouses...

[michelej1]

I wonder when she was done with that? When did she feel she was independent enough to not have to seek a relationship with a man based on her need to secure her place in a band or use them for career advancement?



Oh, maybe after the success of Bella Donna. Michele

[vivfox]

I think of the guy who proposed to a woman who just got out of bed with another man and I'm repulsed all over again.


Which man are you talking about here and who was he in bed with?

[Rod~A~Little]

It's her fascination with Beauty and the Beast....she sees the beauty that no one else sees.

Ah! Good observation bombaysaffires.

[CADreaming]

Oh, maybe after the success of Bella Donna. Michele

And after that it was just purely convenience, I guess.

[michelej1]

Which man are you talking about here and who was he in bed with?

I meant the passage in Mick's book when he wrote about proposing to Sara.

Michele

[Villavic]

Do you girls find Jimmy Iovine ugly? I guess he is not a movie star, you may find him not attractive, but ugly is a hard adjective, I guess he is a simple guy, that's it.

Yes, I think Stevie looks beyond surface. The point is that she was a hot girl, a rock goddess, and people usually wants to see "golden couples" among artists, icons and stars. But.. life is real. Life is real! (Freddie Mercury)

[Villavic]

I think of the guy who proposed to a woman who just got out of bed with another man and I'm repulsed all over again.

.......
I meant the passage in Mick's book when he wrote about proposing to Sara.

Michele

Sorry I can't find an episode where Mick proposes to Sara, nor a description about jumping to Mick's bed after proposing. He did tell she moved to his home (circa 1978 or Tusk recording days) when she was still married (did you mean this?), but Mick & Sara got married in 1988, far later:

And I'm most happy to say we're friends with Lindsey again. He came to the wedding when Sara and I married under a marquee outside our house in Malibu in the spring of 1988. Later that year we dedicated Fleetwood Mac Greatest Hits to him, with much love.

Did you mean about Sara being married and living with Mick? Or did I missunderstand?

[michelej1]

Sorry I can't find an episode where Mick proposes to Sara, nor a description about jumping to Mick's bed after proposing.

It didn't say she jumped into bed with Mick after he proposed. It said he proposed when she'd just been with another man. I don't know who the other guy was, but he worked for the band.

Michele

[Macfanforever]

Steven Tyler could fit in this dept.He 's in the same boat.

[Villavic]

It didn't say she jumped into bed with Mick after he proposed. It said he proposed when she'd just been with another man. I don't know who the other guy was, but he worked for the band.

Michele
Oh yeees, now I found it:

When Sara left, she had moved into her own place in Marina Del Rey, but she wasn't there. Then I heard on the Fleetwood Mac grapevine that Sara was in Hawaii with a boyfriend. This concept made me so queasy that I flew to Maui, arriving in time to practice in the afternoon with the Fleetwood Mac softball team, which was seeing action that night. John McVie and I were in the outfield. "Looking for Sara?" he asked contemptuously. I gulped. "You'll find her over at my house with . . ." And McVie named one of the dashing technicians on our crew. My heart did a backward flip! I dropped my glove and drove over to McVie's. I knocked on the door, but there was no answer. So I went in and knocked on the bedroom door. "Wait a minute," Sara said.

She came out in a robe; she and this guy had been asleep. She was very angry with me. I got down on my knees, told her I was sorry, and asked her to marry me.

"Mick," she said, "you must be really out of your mind. I'm not marrying you."

I told her the whole story of the Blob, and Sara laughed in my face. "You jerk," she said.

She was right, so I groveled. I swore I'd be good. I swore I'd reform and not be crazy. I swore I'd take care of her. She said she'd think about it, and eventually I left. In the end, she came home.

[tabruns]

I was wondering why a beautiful woman such as Stevie has dated....uh well...some not so attractive men.

Okay, so Lindsey was the exception to the rule, but...

Mick Fleetwood
Jimmy Iovine
Joe Walsh
Rupert Hine (?)

Yikes!....

Shallow much? Maybe looks aren't everything.

[icinglover1995]

Oh yeees, now I found it:

When Sara left, she had moved into her own place in Marina Del Rey, but she wasn't there. Then I heard on the Fleetwood Mac grapevine that Sara was in Hawaii with a boyfriend. This concept made me so queasy that I flew to Maui, arriving in time to practice in the afternoon with the Fleetwood Mac softball team, which was seeing action that night. John McVie and I were in the outfield. "Looking for Sara?" he asked contemptuously. I gulped. "You'll find her over at my house with . . ." And McVie named one of the dashing technicians on our crew. My heart did a backward flip! I dropped my glove and drove over to McVie's. I knocked on the door, but there was no answer. So I went in and knocked on the bedroom door. "Wait a minute," Sara said.

She came out in a robe; she and this guy had been asleep. She was very angry with me. I got down on my knees, told her I was sorry, and asked her to marry me.

"Mick," she said, "you must be really out of your mind. I'm not marrying you."

I told her the whole story of the Blob, and Sara laughed in my face. "You jerk," she said.

She was right, so I groveled. I swore I'd be good. I swore I'd reform and not be crazy. I swore I'd take care of her. She said she'd think about it, and eventually I left. In the end, she came home.

I don't know about you gusy, but that's really sweet.. And romantic. Maybe i'm just messed up.. But I think that's very romantic of Mick.

[bombaysaffires]

Oh yeees, now I found it:

When Sara left, she had moved into her own place in Marina Del Rey, but she wasn't there. Then I heard on the Fleetwood Mac grapevine that Sara was in Hawaii with a boyfriend. This concept made me so queasy that I flew to Maui, arriving in time to practice in the afternoon with the Fleetwood Mac softball team, which was seeing action that night. John McVie and I were in the outfield. "Looking for Sara?" he asked contemptuously. I gulped. "You'll find her over at my house with . . ." And McVie named one of the dashing technicians on our crew. My heart did a backward flip! I dropped my glove and drove over to McVie's. I knocked on the door, but there was no answer. So I went in and knocked on the bedroom door. "Wait a minute," Sara said.

She came out in a robe; she and this guy had been asleep. She was very angry with me. I got down on my knees, told her I was sorry, and asked her to marry me.

"Mick," she said, "you must be really out of your mind. I'm not marrying you."

I told her the whole story of the Blob, and Sara laughed in my face. "You jerk," she said.

She was right, so I groveled. I swore I'd be good. I swore I'd reform and not be crazy. I swore I'd take care of her. She said she'd think about it, and eventually I left. In the end, she came home.

"very dashing" makes me think of Curry Grant...

[michelej1]

"very dashing" makes me think of Curry Grant...

Good nominee, but I bet John McVie wouldn't be so keen to let Curry hang out at his place as a house guest after all the making love fun Curry had been doing with certain other people.

Michele

[studyinscarlet]

I was wondering why a beautiful woman such as Stevie has dated....uh well...some not so attractive men.

Okay, so Lindsey was the exception to the rule, but...

Mick Fleetwood
Jimmy Iovine
Joe Walsh
Rupert Hine (?)

Yikes!....

You forgot Waddy.

[cliffdweller]

You forgot Waddy.

Yikes. That's the worst one of all. Cocaine is a hell of a drug! :D

[Sleepless-Child]

Do you girls find Jimmy Iovine ugly? I guess he is not a movie star, you may find him not attractive, but ugly is a hard adjective, I guess he is a simple guy, that's it.

Yes, I think Stevie looks beyond surface. The point is that she was a hot girl, a rock goddess, and people usually wants to see "golden couples" among artists, icons and stars. But.. life is real. Life is real! (Freddie Mercury)

Well, i'm a girl and i think that Jimmy Iovine is kinda cute, except for the terrible haircut and eyebrows problem. He has a great smile. I like him in this video where sings Blue Lamp in the studio.
Mick is not too ugly either, he's got something.
But, you know, i kind of get why she still talks about Lindsey after all those years. He is the best she ever had :). Well, at least, physically.

[Bryan]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder ,morons.

[AnthonyMI]

I don't know if it's a gay guy thing or not but cuteness always seems to be the number one factor in a relationship for me in deciding if I want a man or not.


speaking from experience, yes, gay men are shallow. It goes like this...
1. Looks
2. Sex

Once the looks or sex slow down or fade, or better yet someone better looking or with better sex comes along, you are dumped... That is just how gay men are. That or they realize they are not even good friends, incompatible, hate eachother or some stupid reason. This is why lesbians joke about the second date they call the Uhaul or gay men joke that the second date means they are in a long term relationship or cant make it past 4 years. These things just are not like real relationships that usually begin as friends or lovers and "Blossom" into something more real. In fact, I have been turned down by acquaintances and friends I asked for a date because they "dont date friends". Seems like a stupid rule. Basically it is saying "I only date one night stands that I want to have a series on on going one night stand with". The relationships that mean something are the ones that are based on friends and something past the initial "OMG he is SO cute". Sadly, Stevie's one or two or three "True" loves were either drug addicts, pigs, or too famous to be held down. Maybe she is flawed too, putting her career(s) first etc etc.

If you want to be happy for the rest of your life, make an ugly woman (or man) your wife (or husband). Trust me... us ugly people are WAY more appreciative and try much much much harder to please. ;-)

[Rod~A~Little]

I created this thread to be light-hearted and fun.

In no way am I judging Stevie for who she chooses to date.
Some folks need to lighten up a little.

It's all in fun. With that said: One wonders why so many men in her life have been ass-ugly. lol

[fringed n fab]

I don't think all gay men are shallow and I'm definitely not superficial. I find all different types of men sexy or beautiful in different ways and someone doesn't have to be the most drop dead gorgeous in the face to be sexy. I create threads all the time showcasing what I find nice in someone and it's really about the different attributes I find sexy in men. They're examples, bits and pieces if anything. For instance I couldn't get over the movie Joshua the other night on Showtime (it's also on Showtime demand HD, at least on Comcast down here) and I have always found something so sexy in Tony Goldwyn, even though he might not be beautifully handsome in the face, I find him so adorable and manly, hunky. And such a nice mouth too. :)

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee466/fringedNfab/tonygoldwyn.jpg

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee466/fringedNfab/tonygoldwyn3.jpg

Too handsome to me.

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee466/fringedNfab/tonygoldwyn2.jpg

[PenguinHead]

I suppose Lindsey and Don Henley are probably the best looking men she was with, that we know of.

When Lindsey wrote "packing up, shaking up is all you wanna do" I wonder who he might be referring to. Was Walter Egan one of them? It seems she goes mostly for fellow musicians - those we know because of their fame. Surely there must be some who aren't famous. Has she ever dated an actor?

She recently made it known that she had a romance with someone she met in Italy. I keep thinking it was some rich old bloated Italian man. But I'd like to think it was a younger good-looking guy.

[fairydust75]

She recently made it known that she had a romance with someone she met in Italy. I keep thinking it was some rich old bloated Italian man. But I'd like to think it was a younger good-looking guy.[/QUOTE]

She did? Who, what? Since we have the where. Oh when?

[olive]

speaking from experience, yes, gay men are shallow. It goes like this...
1. Looks
2. Sex

Once the looks or sex slow down or fade, or better yet someone better looking or with better sex comes along, you are dumped... That is just how gay men are. That or they realize they are not even good friends, incompatible, hate eachother or some stupid reason. This is why lesbians joke about the second date they call the Uhaul or gay men joke that the second date means they are in a long term relationship or cant make it past 4 years. These things just are not like real relationships that usually begin as friends or lovers and "Blossom" into something more real. In fact, I have been turned down by acquaintances and friends I asked for a date because they "dont date friends". Seems like a stupid rule. Basically it is saying "I only date one night stands that I want to have a series on on going one night stand with". The relationships that mean something are the ones that are based on friends and something past the initial "OMG he is SO cute". Sadly, Stevie's one or two or three "True" loves were either drug addicts, pigs, or too famous to be held down. Maybe she is flawed too, putting her career(s) first etc etc.

If you want to be happy for the rest of your life, make an ugly woman (or man) your wife (or husband). Trust me... us ugly people are WAY more appreciative and try much much much harder to please. ;-)

i feel sorry for you , not all gay men are this shallow or self loathing -

[Silver Springs]

speaking from experience, yes, gay men are shallow. It goes like this...
1. Looks
2. Sex

Once the looks or sex slow down or fade, or better yet someone better looking or with better sex comes along, you are dumped... That is just how gay men are. That or they realize they are not even good friends, incompatible, hate eachother or some stupid reason. This is why lesbians joke about the second date they call the Uhaul or gay men joke that the second date means they are in a long term relationship or cant make it past 4 years. These things just are not like real relationships that usually begin as friends or lovers and "Blossom" into something more real. In fact, I have been turned down by acquaintances and friends I asked for a date because they "dont date friends". Seems like a stupid rule. Basically it is saying "I only date one night stands that I want to have a series on on going one night stand with". The relationships that mean something are the ones that are based on friends and something past the initial "OMG he is SO cute". Sadly, Stevie's one or two or three "True" loves were either drug addicts, pigs, or too famous to be held down. Maybe she is flawed too, putting her career(s) first etc etc.

If you want to be happy for the rest of your life, make an ugly woman (or man) your wife (or husband). Trust me... us ugly people are WAY more appreciative and try much much much harder to please. ;-)

How shallow. Here's me thinking a connection on a more personal level; ie personality and such, was far more meaningful than how they rate on the looks spectrum.

[bluefox4000]

speaking from experience, yes, gay men are shallow. It goes like this...
1. Looks
2. Sex

Once the looks or sex slow down or fade, or better yet someone better looking or with better sex comes along, you are dumped... That is just how gay men are. That or they realize they are not even good friends, incompatible, hate eachother or some stupid reason. This is why lesbians joke about the second date they call the Uhaul or gay men joke that the second date means they are in a long term relationship or cant make it past 4 years. These things just are not like real relationships that usually begin as friends or lovers and "Blossom" into something more real. In fact, I have been turned down by acquaintances and friends I asked for a date because they "dont date friends". Seems like a stupid rule. Basically it is saying "I only date one night stands that I want to have a series on on going one night stand with". The relationships that mean something are the ones that are based on friends and something past the initial "OMG he is SO cute". Sadly, Stevie's one or two or three "True" loves were either drug addicts, pigs, or too famous to be held down. Maybe she is flawed too, putting her career(s) first etc etc.

If you want to be happy for the rest of your life, make an ugly woman (or man) your wife (or husband). Trust me... us ugly people are WAY more appreciative and try much much much harder to please. ;-)

I'm gonna have to say.......that is one of he most broad ignorant statements i've Ever read.:distress: Think before you make such blanket statements.

Mick

[bombaysaffires]

I suppose Lindsey and Don Henley are probably the best looking men she was with, that we know of.

When Lindsey wrote "packing up, shaking up is all you wanna do" I wonder who he might be referring to. Was Walter Egan one of them? It seems she goes mostly for fellow musicians - those we know because of their fame. Surely there must be some who aren't famous. Has she ever dated an actor?

She recently made it known that she had a romance with someone she met in Italy. I keep thinking it was some rich old bloated Italian man. But I'd like to think it was a younger good-looking guy.


In her interview with Cynthia McFadden it's said that when she was on the road she would pull into town, "break a few hearts" and move on.... I remember another interview where something was said about waiters.... Does anyone have that?

With regard to the men mentioned, I think Stevie is addicted to drama. So many of her relationships (not necessarily the one night stands) involved huge amounts of drama.... LB, Mick, Rupert, Joe, Kim, etc ... Part of her loves the drama and loves using that to feed songwriting

[In Your Dreams]

Dave Stewart ain't no prize either. According to him they hooked up in the 80s.

[Rod~A~Little]

Hence, the name of this thread....lol

[Macfanforever]

I have friends say.The looks does not matter on the outside package.What matters is the love thats inside of the package.

[AnthonyMI]

How shallow. Here's me thinking a connection on a more personal level; ie personality and such, was far more meaningful than how they rate on the looks spectrum.

Did you actually read and comprehend? How did you get that this applies to my thinking at all? I'm talking about gay men in Chicago not the whole world. Though most gays in bigger cities do think that way.

[AnthonyMI]

I'm gonna have to say.......that is one of he most broad ignorant statements i've Ever read.:distress: Think before you make such blanket statements.

Mick

Actually, I put a great deal of thought into this, if you ever get to Chicago you'll get a chance to meet the Sallow Gays. Though it's true in most big metropolitan areas, ask any younger gay man....the prettier the gay man the more superficial they are. sorry, it's true.

[olive]

Did you actually read and comprehend? How did you get that this applies to my thinking at all? I'm talking about gay men in Chicago not the whole world. Though most gays in bigger cities do think that way.

please resign as spokesman for gay men.

[bluefox4000]

please resign as spokesman for gay men.

Seconded.

Mick

[Kena]

Has everyone here been in love with a man or woman that everyone else thinks is attractive? Remember- Love's a state of mind!

I bet Stevie thought Joe was the most precious thing she ever saw when she was in love with him. If she saw him across the room, probably not a well lit room, and fell in love with him instantly...well there must have been some sort of soul connect...that feeling you get when you see into someone...when you aren't just looking at them, when you are looking inside of them...I suppose I always find myself comparing my personal experiences to those of Stevie’s (because that's what got me hooked on her in the first place- those similar feelings and connections that- in my mind at least- we share). But I fell in love with a man like that once. We just made eye contact, looked in to each other, and I swear , I was in love. It was very powerful, and something that was stronger than anything else I've ever felt. I would have given my life for that man...anything...he could have it.

Sometimes it's just timing...the right place, lighting, angle of the face, amount of cocaine, booze, that a connection is made. When you're in love, you may not even see, or care, that they aren't actually attractive (to the rest of the world at least).

But eventually, it probably shocked the hell out of Stevie that she fell in love with a man that wasn't as pretty as her...I mean, when that sort of thing happens, and you just can't fight it because of the connection, do you even notice that one of you is prettier than the other? The love shared makes them more beautiful than anything else in the whole world right then.

Of course, sometimes you can have it all!!! Maybe Lindsey could have been her all. And sometimes you have it all wrong - errrr, Rupert. Stevie was having some self esteem issues during that time, I will forgive her for that.
Mick- well I can see that happening, he's looked somewhat attractive at different times (being the most handsome now!) he just always looked like he smelled bad. Now not so much.

Anywhoodles! just saying...For What it's worth.

[olive]

why not just accept that she is not shallow and superficial .

[WildHearted]

Has everyone here been in love with a man or woman that everyone else thinks is attractive? Remember- Love's a state of mind!

I bet Stevie thought Joe was the most precious thing she ever saw when she was in love with him. If she saw him across the room, probably not a well lit room, and fell in love with him instantly...well there must have been some sort of soul connect...that feeling you get when you see into someone...when you aren't just looking at them, when you are looking inside of them...I suppose I always find myself comparing my personal experiences to those of Stevie’s (because that's what got me hooked on her in the first place- those similar feelings and connections that- in my mind at least- we share). But I fell in love with a man like that once. We just made eye contact, looked in to each other, and I swear , I was in love. It was very powerful, and something that was stronger than anything else I've ever felt. I would have given my life for that man...anything...he could have it.

Sometimes it's just timing...the right place, lighting, angle of the face, amount of cocaine, booze, that a connection is made. When you're in love, you may not even see, or care, that they aren't actually attractive (to the rest of the world at least).

But eventually, it probably shocked the hell out of Stevie that she fell in love with a man that wasn't as pretty as her...I mean, when that sort of thing happens, and you just can't fight it because of the connection, do you even notice that one of you is prettier than the other? The love shared makes them more beautiful than anything else in the whole world right then.

Of course, sometimes you can have it all!!! Maybe Lindsey could have been her all. And sometimes you have it all wrong - errrr, Rupert. Stevie was having some self esteem issues during that time, I will forgive her for that.
Mick- well I can see that happening, he's looked somewhat attractive at different times (being the most handsome now!) he just always looked like he smelled bad. Now not so much.

Anywhoodles! just saying...For What it's worth.

I agree with the sentiment.


But the whole ~love at first sight thing with Joe Walsh (as in, the story of her seeing him for the first time from across the room somewhere) has never made any sense to me, because Stevie had known and been hanging out with the Eagles at least 7 or 8 years prior. :lol: Unless maybe she saw him across the room, didn't recognize him, and then fell in love.

[michelej1]

But the whole ~love at first sight thing with Joe Walsh (as in, the story of her seeing him for the first time from across the room somewhere) has never made any sense to me, because Stevie had known and been hanging out with the Eagles at least 7 or 8 years prior. :lol: Unless maybe she saw him across the room, didn't recognize him, and then fell in love.

Unless she never wore her glasses when she was with Don and had no idea what his bandmates looked like.

Michele

[Neal]

Sometimes it's just timing...the right place, lighting, angle of the face, amount of cocaine, booze, that a connection is made.


This statement is both humorous and shamefully familiar at the same time... :o

But I have no regrets. :p

[vivfox]

But the whole ~love at first sight thing with Joe Walsh (as in, the story of her seeing him for the first time from across the room somewhere) has never made any sense to me, because Stevie had known and been hanging out with the Eagles at least 7 or 8 years prior. :lol: Unless maybe she saw him across the room, didn't recognize him, and then fell in love.


I agree with what you said about her knowing him previously but that 1st day of the Wild Heart tour when he boarded that airplane and she looked up at him, she claims it was love at first sight. Maybe she saw him in a special light that particular day like she had never pictured him previously and that moment for her was magic.

[cliffdweller]

Unless she never wore her glasses when she was with Don and had no idea what his bandmates looked like.

Michele

:lol: :lol:

[Rod~A~Little]

Sigh...............

[TerraRhiannon]

Jimmy Iovine was not much to look it. Hmmm... he was beaten with the ugly stick. I mean, I don't judge people... or I don\t try to, cause I know it's what is on the inside that counts but I mean really.. I have to get past the shell first ;)

[PenguinHead]

She recently made it known that she had a romance with someone she met in Italy. I keep thinking it was some rich old bloated Italian man. But I'd like to think it was a younger good-looking guy.

She did? Who, what? Since we have the where. Oh when?[/QUOTE]

She mentioned it when she was discussing the inpiration for the song Italian Summer.
She had recently spent long vacation there and implied that she met someone. That's all I know.

[bombaysaffires]

Jimmy Iovine was not much to look it. Hmmm... he was beaten with the ugly stick. I mean, I don't judge people... or I don\t try to, cause I know it's what is on the inside that counts but I mean really.. I have to get past the shell first ;)

and yet, he's far better than so many of the others......:(

[Wing24]

I don't know why so many fans presume to know everything about her love life. I remember an interview where she said she's dated waiters and such. They could have been Greek Gods for all we know...;)

[olive]

why are you all hung up on looks?

[michelej1]

If you weren't real ugly then, she got an assurance from you that you would become ugly with age, as was the case with Les Dudek.

Michele

[bombaysaffires]

If you weren't real ugly then, she got an assurance from you that you would become ugly with age, as was the case with Les Dudek.

Michele

mwahahahaha

[jannieC]

why are you all hung up on looks?

I wonder if it's because Stevie is and was just so beautiful. People find it interesting that someone that beautiful could be attracted to men who are (in their eyes) not in her league.

I was in a long term relationship with someone who was really not traditionally attractive, at all. Actually when I first met him, I had NO attraction to him whatsoever. But then we became great friends and before you knew it, I was totally in love. :shrug:

My husband is very handsome and most people would agree about that. However, if something were to happen to make him less handsome, I would still love him and wouldn't think twice about it.

[michelej1]

I was in a long term relationship with someone who was really not traditionally attractive, at all. Actually when I first met him, I had NO attraction to him whatsoever. But then we became great friends and before you knew it, I was totally in love. :shrug:



For me, I find that my opinion of someone's looks changes with familiarity. So, I might not stop being shallow, but my shallow judgments shift. When I come to know and like someone, they become more attractive physically.

Michele

[bluefox4000]

Well I'm not normally hung up on looks (I think:laugh:) But some of her choices made me raise an eyebrow. But we're all only human right? We all...or most of us....contain a little shallowness we would like to never admit too.

just my view:wavey:

Mick

[elle]

Well I'm not normally hung up on looks (I think:laugh:) But some of her choices made me raise an eyebrow. But we're all only human right? We all...or most of us....contain a little shallowness we would like to never admit too.

agree, nothing wrong with little shallowness... life has to be fun too :D

i am somewhat surprised by people preaching about shallowness in the forum where huge number of posts tend to contain swooning over how beautiful SN is. :confused: double standard maybe?! woman's looks can be discussed infinitely but man's looks should not be discussed b/c for men what's inside is important? :laugh: :lol

[michelej1]

I was looking at Viv's signature pic and thinking of how there are just some men that women gravitate to and their looks are inconsequential. Sonny Bono's face was not conventionally handsome, he had a high, nasal voice, and he was short, but Cher said that women were always crazy about him, even when he was dead broke (as he was in 1964 when Cher met him).

Some people possess an indefinable magnetism. Sometimes, it's charisma, but sometimes it's something less polished than that, but no less intriguing.

Michele

[CADreaming]

agree, nothing wrong with little shallowness... life has to be fun too :D

i am somewhat surprised by people preaching about shallowness in the forum where huge number of posts tend to contain swooning over how beautiful SN is. :confused: double standard maybe?! woman's looks can be discussed infinitely but man's looks should not be discussed b/c for men what's inside is important? :laugh: :lol

What I don't get is how it comes up a million times in other threads and it's been a general consensus, but a thread gets created out of fun and suddenly it's a serious offense to point out some of her choices were somewhat lacking in the looks department? :shrug:

But, Michele is on to something - Stevie must have finally determined Joe Walsh's personality was overwhelmingly attractive and that's why she claimed to have fallen in love with him "at first sight" when she actually had known him for years. What an epiphany that was.

[michelej1]

Stevie must have finally determined Joe Walsh's personality was overwhelmingly attractive and that's why she claimed to have fallen in love with him "at first sight" when she actually had known him for years. What an epiphany that was.

You think that particular night he was so funny and impressive that he caught her eye as if for the very first time?

She said the same thing about having an instant love for Rupert Hines.

One of these days she's going to see this pony-tailed guy moving rhythmically on her right and fall madly in love at first sight with John McVie.

Michele

[CADreaming]

You think that particular night he was so funny and impressive that he caught her eye as if for the very first time?

She said the same thing about having an instant love for Rupert Hines.

One of these days she's going to see this pony-tailed guy moving rhythmically on her right and fall madly in love at first sight with John McVie.

Michele

Or Brett Tuggle...

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

[njova]

Who knows if Stevie has ever really been in love or if she really knew/knows what true love is. I mean she always used her career as an excuse to avoid any real commitment, maybe thats why she always talks about Lindsey so much he was the closest thing to real love she ever experienced.

[michelej1]

Or Brett Tuggle...



That makes me wonder how many people in her band Stevie has been romantic with in the past. Waddy is a safe assumption, but I'd put money on Carlos too.

Michele

[CADreaming]

That makes me wonder how many people in her band Stevie has been romantic with in the past. Waddy is a safe assumption, but I'd put money on Carlos too.

Michele

Really? Eh. I don't think either one, but I'm in the minority when it comes to her list. I don't think she's necessarily been with every man in her life even if she was coked up.

[michelej1]

Really? Eh. I don't think either one, but I'm in the minority when it comes to her list. I don't think she's necessarily been with every man in her life even if she was coked up.

I don't think she's been with every man in her life. I don't think the ones she has been with can all be attributed to coke either.

Michele

[CADreaming]

I don't think she's been with every man in her life. I don't think the ones she has been with can all be attributed to coke either.

Michele

Definitely not.

[Macfanforever]

Not to skew this off topic .Turn the tables around.How about male rockers with ugly girl freinds .My mind draw a blank on this one.What I know most are cute.

[michelej1]

Not to skew this off topic .Turn the tables around.How about male rockers with ugly girl freinds .My mind draw a blank on this one.What I know most are cute.

This reminds me of a Curb Your Enthusiasm. Larry decided that men with ugly wives must have a lot of integrity and are more trustworthy than men with attractives wives.

I would not say that these women are "ugly" at all, but I do think people like Patti Sialfa, Linda McCartney and Yoko Ono are not as attractive as people would have expected them to be.

Michele

[chiliD]

... but I'd put money on Carlos too.


It's gotta be why he continues to be a part of her band...it certainly as hell isn't his guitar playing. :mad:


:eek:

:shocked:

:lol:

[MikeInNV]

That makes me wonder how many people in her band Stevie has been romantic with in the past. Waddy is a safe assumption, but I'd put money on Carlos too.

Michele

Is everyone in Stevie's band straight? I thought I heard one of the guys was gay, but now I can't even remember who.

[HejiraNYC]

Not to skew this off topic .Turn the tables around.How about male rockers with ugly girl freinds .My mind draw a blank on this one.What I know most are cute.

I hate to say this but...

http://www.hotonline.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/jonbonjovisisotiartrm60j.jpg

No, she's not ugly, but decidedly, um... non-drool-worthy? :shrug:

[jannieC]

I hate to say this but...

http://www.hotonline.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/jonbonjovisisotiartrm60j.jpg

No, she's not ugly, but decidedly, um... non-drool-worthy? :shrug:

Aw, she is his high school sweetheart...mother of his children...and yes, not nearly as cute as she should be. KIDDING. Though I clearly remember where I was when I heard he'd become engaged. I pictured some fabulous big boobed blonde as his betrothed; not an "averagely" pretty girl.

[cliffdweller]

I hate to say this but...

http://www.hotonline.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/jonbonjovisisotiartrm60j.jpg

No, she's not ugly, but decidedly, um... non-drool-worthy? :shrug:

She's not a bombshell but I think she's pretty in a "girl next door" kind of way. Plus, I think it's so cool that they've been together since high school. So sweet. :xoxo:

[Kena]

She's not a bombshell but I think she's pretty in a "girl next door" kind of way. Plus, I think it's so cool that they've been together since high school. So sweet. :xoxo:

I agree with that. Oh, and they are actually the same age which is kind of rare for the rocker dude. (Ahem...Tom Petty, Steven Tyler, our Lindsey just to name a few).


Which brings to mind another topic...who could you imagine Stevie dating now? Anybody, single, married, old, young, just anything goes? I would start a thread on this but...I won't.

Mine would be Adam Levine. Oh weeee, I could just eat that man up. He could be Stevie's leather. Of course she'd probably never go for it...but what if??

If I had to pick someone her age, I'd say she'd look pretty cute with Jeff Bridges. He's a good looking older man. A good looking married man that is.

Ah, that was fun!!!

[Newzchspy]

Shallow much? Maybe looks aren't everything.

Of course looks aren't everything, BUT we can't bury our heads in the proverbial sand and act like they're not important.

[PenguinHead]

I agree with that. Oh, and they are actually the same age which is kind of rare for the rocker dude. (Ahem...Tom Petty, Steven Tyler, our Lindsey just to name a few).


Which brings to mind another topic...who could you imagine Stevie dating now? Anybody, single, married, old, young, just anything goes? I would start a thread on this but...I won't.

Mine would be Adam Levine. Oh weeee, I could just eat that man up. He could be Stevie's leather. Of course she'd probably never go for it...but what if??

If I had to pick someone her age, I'd say she'd look pretty cute with Jeff Bridges. He's a good looking older man. A good looking married man that is.

Ah, that was fun!!!

Jeff Bridges is a good example of an appropriate age and looks-wise equivalent to Stevie. I would be concerned if she was with anyone too much younger than her. Look what happened to Demi Moore! And who care if he's married or not; that's never stopped Stevie before. Who Stevie wants Stevie gets!

[vivfox]

Look what happened to Demi Moore!

Today it's being reported that Demi tried persuing Zac Efron before her escapade. He's 24. Let's hear it for the cougar!

[StreetAngel86]

I hate to say this but...

http://www.hotonline.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/jonbonjovisisotiartrm60j.jpg

No, she's not ugly, but decidedly, um... non-drool-worthy? :shrug:

She kinda looks like an older Jessica Biel
idk what she looked like back in the day but she could have been pretty <hot>
i'm sure Stevie would have wanted a piece of Jon if he wasn't married :lol:
and she'd join the band. and they would have made the most awesome music ...

[HejiraNYC]

She kinda looks like an older Jessica Biel
idk what she looked like back in the day but she could have been pretty <hot>
i'm sure Stevie would have wanted a piece of Jon if he wasn't married :lol:
and she'd join the band. and they would have made the most awesome music ...

I hate to say it, but I suspect JBJ may have been a smidge too pretty for Mama's tastes. She appreciates a "funny face" - a face that is not classically handsome, but has some kind of exaggerated feature that makes him endearing in an almost comical sense. For example, I am convinced that Stevie loved Jimmy's unibrow. She loved Mick's bulging eyes and brobdingnag height. She loved Joe Walsh's schnozzola. She loved Rupert Hine's pointy (like a stilletto) chin, just as much as she loves Dave Stewart's lack of a chin. I'd like to think her aesthetic palate is not mainstream, and that she can find beauty in the most unexpected places.

[cliffdweller]

I hate to say it, but I suspect JBJ may have been a smidge too pretty for Mama's tastes. She appreciates a "funny face" - a face that is not classically handsome, but has some kind of exaggerated feature that makes him endearing in an almost comical sense. For example, I am convinced that Stevie loved Jimmy's unibrow. She loved Mick's bulging eyes and brobdingnag height. She loved Joe Walsh's schnozzola. She loved Rupert Hine's pointy (like a stilletto) chin, just as much as she loves Dave Stewart's lack of a chin. I'd like to think her aesthetic palate is not mainstream, and that she can find beauty in the most unexpected places.

Hence the title of this thread.

I agree. I think Stevie's all about personality and interesting (*ahem*) looking men. I also don't think she can be with a man who is as pretty/high maintenance as her. Can you imagine the drama? THAT would not work.

[seekerj]

Jeff Bridges is a good example of an appropriate age and looks-wise equivalent to Stevie. I would be concerned if she was with anyone too much younger than her. Look what happened to Demi Moore! And who care if he's married or not; that's never stopped Stevie before. Who Stevie wants Stevie gets!

Yeah, uh-huh she's SUCH a victim. Completely innocent. Not a matter of what goes around comes around. Didn't devestate Bruce Willis at all. Poor, poor Demi the old dried-up druggie sleazebag. She got what she deserved.

[vivfox]

She kinda looks like an older Jessica Biel
idk what she looked like back in the day but she could have been pretty
.

She was never attractive to anyone but John.

[fringed n fab]

I think JBJ looked best in maybe the black and white footage from the Living On A Prayer video. Maybe it was those ripped jeans and ass... nowdays, I don't see the huge deal or appeal. :shrug:

[fringed n fab]

You know, someone else I had a brief screen crush on there for a moment back in the late 80's/early 90's, was Mike Tramp from White Lion in their "Wait" video. OMGoodness, could those pants get any tighter? What a fine ass back then. :)

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[WildHearted]

Well, we all know Stevie's thoughts about John's appearance:

"Jon, watching you leaning over the console... Jon Bon Jovi: Best butt of all time......Get him on the phone! .....Good butt, a fantastic face, and a loyal man. Don't make them like that anymore."

:lol:

[fairydust75]

You know, someone else I had a brief screen crush on there for a moment back in the late 80's/early 90's, was Mike Tramp from White Lion in their "Wait" video. OMGoodness, could those pants get any tighter? What a fine ass back then. :)

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I know exactly who your talking about, wow the '80's were a wonderdul time to be a teenage girl....lots of beautiful men to plaster all over your walls....memory's.

[Rod~A~Little]

Hence the title of this thread.

I agree. I think Stevie's all about personality and interesting (*ahem*) looking men. I also don't think she can be with a man who is as pretty/high maintenance as her. Can you imagine the drama? THAT would not work.

Oh yes the drama Cliffdweller!
But what good makings for some fantastic songs it would make!
:D

(Get Stevie some lookers right away!!!)

[PenguinHead]

Yeah, uh-huh she's SUCH a victim. Completely innocent. Not a matter of what goes around comes around. Didn't devestate Bruce Willis at all. Poor, poor Demi the old dried-up druggie sleazebag. She got what she deserved.

I'm indifferent to Demi, but she's just as emotionally vulnerable as anybody else. She doesn't deserve to be called an old dried-up druggie sleazebag. That over-the-top and unwarrented diatribe says more about your issues than hers. Why so angry?

[girlboymusic]

I'm indifferent to Demi, but she's just as emotionally vulnerable as anybody else. She doesn't deserve to be called an old dried-up druggie sleazebag. That over-the-top and unwarrented diatribe says more about your issues than hers. Why so angry?

Seriously. Also, it's kind of rich of anybody on a Stevie Nicks board to call anyone "an old dried-up druggie sleazebag." Stevie drugged and sleazed with the best of 'em.

[teedeerocks]

I was wondering why a beautiful woman such as Stevie has dated....uh well...some not so attractive men.

Okay, so Lindsey was the exception to the rule, but...

Mick Fleetwood
Jimmy Iovine
Joe Walsh
Rupert Hine (?)

Yikes!....

Maybe she's "living out" the whole "beauty and the beast" thing

[olive]

maybe she not that shallow .

[michelej1]

maybe she not that shallow .

True. And I don't mean this in a nice, "I see the goodness in all people" way, because I am so not that person, but actually once you know a person, even if your initial impression of them was that they were unattractive, when you start to be drawn to their personality, their physical looks change in your eyes.

It works the other way around too. If they look good on the surface, but then you realize they are sloppy, crude, or stupid, they are soon not going to be as physically appealing as you thought they were at first glance.

Michele

[olive]

True. And I don't mean this in a nice, "I see the goodness in all people" way, because I am so not that person, but actually once you know a person, even if your initial impression of them was that they were unattractive, when you start to be drawn to their personality, their physical looks change in your eyes.

It works the other way around too. If they look good on the surface, but then you realize they are sloppy, crude, or stupid, they are soon not going to be as physically appealing as you thought they were at first glance.

Michele
I agree . so many people are hung up on looks they sometimes over look someone wonderful

[vivfox]

True. And I don't mean this in a nice, "I see the goodness in all people" way, because I am so not that person, but actually once you know a person, even if your initial impression of them was that they were unattractive, when you start to be drawn to their personality, their physical looks change in your eyes.

It works the other way around too. If they look good on the surface, but then you realize they are sloppy, crude, or stupid, they are soon not going to be as physically appealing as you thought they were at first glance.


One of the things I love about you is your honesty, Michele. But IMO this statement is from a woman's point of view. Us men are unfortunately more shallow minded. If they look good on the surface, but then you realize they are sloppy, crude, or stupid, they are still going to be as physically appealing as you thought they were at first glance.:lol:(For real though)

[vivfox]

I agree . so many people are hung up on looks they sometimes over look someone wonderful


When it comes to intimacy, looks are important but if it's about friendship or anything else, for me looks mean nothing.

[michelej1]

One of the things I love about you is your honesty, Michele. But IMO this statement is from a woman's point of view. Us men are unfortunately more shallow minded. If they look good on the surface, but then you realize they are sloppy, crude, or stupid, they are still going to be as physically appealing as you thought they were at first glance.:lol:(For real though)

I don't know if it's because I'm a woman. I bet a lot of men feel the same way. When I see a guy who I thought was attractive do something gross, then after that, he doesn't look so hot to me.

Michele

[WildHearted]

I don't know if it's because I'm a woman. I bet a lot of men feel the same way. When I see a guy who I thought was attractive do something gross, then after that, he doesn't look so hot to me.

Michele

I feel the same way. I might be able to still acknowledge that the person is objectively good looking (if they are), but my attraction can be completely extinguished.

[teedeerocks]

I don't think Mick's looks have improved this century. Your change of view probably has more to do on what's happened to you on the inside, than what's happened to him on the outside.

And for me, voice alters my perspective too. Obviously, Mr. Wonderful and Heroes are Hard to Find album covers give me nightmares. But sometimes when I hear Mick's clipped, dulcet tones in an interview, I'm kind of charmed. His sound makes him look nicer. Then, again his personality causes him to lose the ground he's gained. I think of the guy who proposed to a woman who just got out of bed with another man and I'm repulsed all over again.



Yes. Mick mentioned that even though Rhiannon was a hit from the start and he also told her how important she was to Over My Head's success, Stevie was still insecure about her place in the band. I have no doubt that part of her attraction to him was the fact that he was the head of the group in which she wanted to solidify her claim. If Lindsey made any move to push her out, aligning with Mick would give her the power needed to fight back. Of course, I feel she did the same thing in Fritz. She'd have had a 40 year love/hate relationship with Bob Aguirre if she thought he had the potential to go places back then.

We gravitate towards those who might offer us security, career wise, home wise, financially and it's not necessarily a calculated thing. It's often instinctive. Just the way you start nesting when a baby is on the way. You are physically and emotionally drawn to things that might bring you comfort and stability.

Michele

I love the girl to death but she said it herself-she KNEW that she wanted to be a rock and roll star.And I think that she would have hooked up with the Creature From the Black Lagoon if he could've gotten her there.Stevie is very smart and knows how to work the system.It seems that she always has an ulterior motive for her actions but,because she is "something of a dreamer", she adds the romance factor in to validate her actions....she sure is a Gemini!!!