The Dance

[jcalzaretta]

Was having a stressful day so put on The Dance. Does it piss anyone off that all these people were there for this reunion of the greatest band ever and sat the whole time? Do you think they had to sit because it was filmed? Because I watch it thinking they did not have their best fans at this taping.

[vivfox]

It was an invitation only taping which consisted of their closest friends, families and industry execs. I was pissied that I wasn't invited.:shocked::lol:

[louielouie2000]

Was having a stressful day so put on The Dance. Does it piss anyone off that all these people were there for this reunion of the greatest band ever and sat the whole time? Do you think they had to sit because it was filmed? Because I watch it thinking they did not have their best fans at this taping.

It was an invitation only taping which consisted of their closest friends, families and industry execs. I was pissied that I wasn't invited.:shocked::lol:

It also has to do with the fact all of the songs were done multiple times (often with large breaks in between songs), and the filming took place over two consecutive days. I know even being the superfan that I am, I'd get tired and bored after only a few hours of that. So given that the audience was mainly industry people, you can imagine why everyone seemed so unamused.

[HomerMcvie]

It also has to do with the fact all of the songs were done multiple times (often with large breaks in between songs), and the filming took place over two consecutive days. I know even being the superfan that I am, I'd get tired and bored after only a few hours of that. So given that the audience was mainly industry people, you can imagine why everyone seemed so unamused.

Me too. And lord only knows how "stalker fans" might react, to hearing a Christine song, multiple times!:lol::lol::lol:;)

Thanks for inspiring me...think I'll watch TD now!:wavey::)

[markolas]

Why do people act like it's the greatest insult ever for someone to sit down during a concert? I go to hear a band play or sing, not bump @sses with thousands of other people.

[AliceLover]

It also has to do with the fact all of the songs were done multiple times (often with large breaks in between songs), and the filming took place over two consecutive days. I know even being the superfan that I am, I'd get tired and bored after only a few hours of that. So given that the audience was mainly industry people, you can imagine why everyone seemed so unamused.

Really? I was always told that they did three nights and only had to do a couple songs more than once.

What I would have killed to hear is the rehearsal versions of Twisted and Little Lies.

[mylittledemon]

What I would have killed to hear is the rehearsal versions of Twisted and Little Lies.

Did they actually rehearse those?

[AliceLover]

Did they actually rehearse those?

I've heard it from a few sources, actually. Someone else told me they rehearsed Isn't it Midnight as well, but I'm not sure on that one. Lindsey's live version probably would have been out of this world. Vito did a great job, but I bet Lindsey would have a field day with that one. Chris should have dumped SYLM and Over My Head for Little Lies and Isn't it Midnight. Also, Lindsey should have recorded Twist of Fate with the band (when it was Twist of Fate). I bet it would have been a hit single.

Also, someone said they rehearsed a song I had never seen before, had the word 'shadow' in it.

[McTrouble]

Was having a stressful day so put on The Dance. Does it piss anyone off that all these people were there for this reunion of the greatest band ever and sat the whole time? Do you think they had to sit because it was filmed? Because I watch it thinking they did not have their best fans at this taping.

I always feel like this when I watch SFTSM at the Saban - the DVD gives the impression that it was dull and no atmosphere there. But yes, I reckon the reason is cos it's being filmed.

[aleuzzi]

I've heard it from a few sources, actually. Someone else told me they rehearsed Isn't it Midnight as well, but I'm not sure on that one. Lindsey's live version probably would have been out of this world. Vito did a great job, but I bet Lindsey would have a field day with that one. Chris should have dumped SYLM and Over My Head for Little Lies and Isn't it Midnight. Also, Lindsey should have recorded Twist of Fate with the band (when it was Twist of Fate). I bet it would have been a hit single.

Also, someone said they rehearsed a song I had never seen before, had the word 'shadow' in it.

Over My Head should definitely have been dumped in favor of Isn't it Midnight. That'd been a real crowd pleaser--especially at the near-the-end-of-the-set part of the show. As much as SYLM live has never been as good as its studio version, the Dance banjo jamboree arrangement charming as hell. I'd have dumped "Everywhere" in favor or Little Lies--or hell, Spare Me a Little!

[MikeInNV]

I'd have dumped "Everywhere" in favor or Little Lies--or hell, Spare Me a Little!

Now see, I love "Everywhere" live but I don't care for the studio version at all. With "Little Lies" it's the opposite. The studio track is nice (though not a fave), but I don't like it live.

[mylittledemon]

Now see, I love "Everywhere" live but I don't care for the studio version at all. With "Little Lies" it's the opposite. The studio track is nice (though not a fave), but I don't like it live.

I feel the same way... I have a feeling if they did rehearse Little Lies, it likely was cut because it didn't flow well with the rest of the set.

[MariaA37]

Why do people act like it's the greatest insult ever for someone to sit down during a concert? I go to hear a band play or sing, not bump @sses with thousands of other people.

I agree. When I was in my teens and twenties I could stand for two hours at a concert, no problem. Now that I'm older, that's just not happening.

~Maria

[jmn3]

I'm in complete agreement that Everywhere is MUCH better live than it was on record, and Little Lies is exactly the opposite. Hearing Lindsey's take on it might be interesting, but I think it would still suffer in the same way that I think it did in 1987-1990 with Billy and Rick. Gypsy is another one but that's been addressed ad nauseum on this board over the years!

The selection of Over My Head for inclusion on The Dance DVD (and performance at those shows) remains a head scratcher for me. It's technically accurate, but it's incredibly boring. Nothing like the 70's versions the band played (listen to Live 1980 vs. The Dance DVD...not even in the same ballpark).

[michelej1]

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/fleetwood-macs-reunion-album-the-dance-turns-15/

Fleetwood Mac’s Reunion Album ‘The Dance’ Turns 15

by: Chad Childers, August 19, 2012

Coming off one of the more disappointing eras of the band, the most well-known lineup of Fleetwood Mac put aside past differences to reunite for the concert release, ‘The Dance,’ which arrived in stores Aug. 19, 1997.

The disc found the vocal trio of Lindsey Buckingham, Stevie Nicks, and Christine McVie all agreeing to one more run with the group that would be highlighted by an ‘MTV Unplugged’ special. Wanting to take advantage of the rare opportunity that all of the members were together, they also created a number of new tracks that would intermingle with their classic songs.

By the time they hit Warner Bros. Studios in Burbank, Calif. on May 23 of 1997, the veteran outfit was fully up to speed on both old and new material. While tracks like ‘Bleed to Love Her’ and “My Little Demon’ were standouts during the sessions, neither got much of a look once the album was released. Instead, fans gravitated toward the newly stripped-down versions of past favorites like ‘Landslide,’ and ‘Silver Springs,’ both of which spent a fair number of weeks on the Adult Contemporary chart. ‘Landslide’ had the better run of the two, cracking the Top 10 at radio.

Speaking of the charts, ‘The Dance’ was the first new album from the five-piece since 1987′s ‘Tango in the Night’ a full decade earlier. Just prior to the return of all three singers, John McVie and Mick Fleetwood attempted to continue unsuccessfully with several new additions. But the success of ‘The Dance,’ which catapulted the group to No. 1 on the charts and knocked off red hot rapper Sean “Puff Daddy” Combs, led the group to reconsider the future and work in one more tour together. The album would go on to become the fifth best-selling live album of all time in the U.S., with over five million copies sold.

As for the MTV Special, it was also a rousing success. Fans were able to latch back onto such favorites as ‘The Chain,’ ‘Dreams,’ ‘Rihannon,’ ‘You Make Lovin’ Fun,’ and ‘Don’t Stop,’ and there was an added bonus as the modern day USC Marching Band followed in the footsteps of their predecessors by playing ‘Tusk’ with the group on the recording. They also stuck around for ‘Don’t Stop.’

Those who eventually purchased the DVD were able to see a fuller version of the actual performance, which also showed off the skills of the various members. Lindsey Buckingham worked in a banjo for the song ‘Say You Love Me,’ which also featured Christine McVie on tambourine and John McVie on backing vocals. Meanwhile Christine McVie ran through a number of instruments, playing keyboards, piano, accordion, and maracas in addition to her singing.

In keeping with the bit of nostalgia provided with the record, the band offered a few nods to their past work in the cover art for the disc. Photographer David LaChappelle snapped a group photo with Mick Fleetwood recreating his pose from the cover of ‘Rumours’ and Lindsey Buckingham holding the cane from the band’s self-titled release.

With things lining up this year, there’s hope of catching lightning in a bottle again. The new tribute album, ‘Just Tell Me That You Want Me,’ received a positive buzz with both old and new rockers lining up to pay homage to the band. Plus, earlier this summer, Stevie Nicks revealed that another reunion was in the works for 2013.

[Jondalar]

I'm really old. I remember when The Other Side Of The Mirror and Behind the Mask..... I remember being so happy with the comeback of The Dance.... Cannot believe its been 15 years...

[mylittledemon]

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/fleetwood-macs-reunion-album-the-dance-turns-15/

Fleetwood Mac’s Reunion Album ‘The Dance’ Turns 15


:shocked:

Consider my mind blown. 15 years has flown by.

[holidayroad]

I'm really old. I remember when The Other Side Of The Mirror and Behind the Mask..... I remember being so happy with the comeback of The Dance.... Cannot believe its been 15 years...

:lol: I guess I'm old, too! I became a fan with Tango, so I remember when Greatest Hits, BTM, TOSOTM, and OOTC were released.

As for The Dance, I remember having MTV on one day and the video for 'Silver Springs' coming on. I was thinking it was cool that they decided to do this live, but that I liked the original better.

Imagine my surprise when I realize that the guitarist is Lindsey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I was totally floored!! http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/misc/smiley-vault-misc-075.gif (http://www.smileyvault.com/)I took it seriously when he said that he couldn't see working with 'those four people' again!

[UndoingTheLaces]

That was a great article but The Dance wasn't an unplugged performance.

I'm still floored that it was 15 years ago. It doesn't seem like that much time has passed. I remember watching the debut on TV and when the opening chords of Silver Springs started I was trying to figure out what the song was. I had no idea they were going to do it. And once Stevie sang the opening line I almost screamed, I was so excited. I bawled like a baby watching Stevie glaring at Lindsey, singing these emotions she'd been denied in concert for so many years. It was unreal and the clip still gives me goosebumps.

[johnnystorms]

my two BBFs actually even bought pot to time-warp to the 70s. never was my thing but we had a wild night.... actually ended up with me and my Boyfriend at the time being made up in a "drag-race" to see who looked better as Stevie... (neither of us did , as the girls making us up were STONED). good times!

[michelej1]

Ultimate Guitar, February 25, 2011

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/dvd/fleetwood_mac/the_dance/index.html

The Dance Reviewed by: mattybou92, on february 25, 2011

Sound: In 1997, "The Dance" put the famed Fleetwood Mac back on the top of the US charts with mulit-platinum success. It had been a decade since the "Rumours" line-up would perform together, and the last time for Christine McVie. "The Dance" is a unique album in the Mac catalog for many reasons.

"The Dance" could have come about for many reasons. Fleetwood Mac was suffering heavily in the 90's with the departure of Buckingham and Nicks. Mick Fleetwood was facing financial difficulties and John McVie nearly died from alcohol abuse. The idea for a tour and live album with the original mid 70's line-up seemed lucrative for each member, naturally. The project came to fruition with Mick Fleetwood working on a Buckingham solo album that turned into much more. Nicks was contacted as well as the remaining members of Mac who all agreed to bring the chain together once more.

The album, as well as the tour was extremely successful. Indeed, Fleetwood Mac has still "got it". The sound is very clear, very pristine beginning with the opening "The Chain" from the album "Rumours". The band has never been better, going through their most famous hits and adding a few new tracks. However, these new tracks actually deter from the flow of the DVD. While the album "The Dance" contained 17 tracks, the DVD contains 22, making the new songs more spread out. However, Stevie's contribution, "Sweet Girl" and McVie's "Temporary One" don't really make as strong of an impression as Buckingham's lovely "Bleed to Love Her."

Buckingham is at top form on the tour. An underrated guitarist, his skill level is simply stunning on "Big Love", a song quite different from the album version that appears on "Tango in the Night". Buckingham evens makes note of the fact, mentioning how songs, like people constantly grow and change. He has matured and changed since his time with Mac, and it is very evident with his treatment of Stevie on her songs.

Stevie manages to ride off the success of the Dixie Chicks when she performs "Landslide" to great acclaim. Her voice however, like Buckingham's, has lost some of its range. "Rhiannon" has all the magic of the Fleetwood-McVie rhythm section, but suffers with her limited range. A new intro is added however, that shows that the Mac is always evolving. "Silver Springs" is her other standout and was the other single released from the album with "Landslide". "Sliver Springs" was originally released as a B-side to "Go Your Own Way" back in the "Rumours"- era. It's a beautiful song that finally gets it's due.

Christine McVie makes a very sweet performance of her hits "Everywhere", "Over My Head" and "Say You Love Me". I still find it odd that "Little Lies" was not included, but the band has so many hits, it must have been difficult to include all of them.

Content: The DVD is a better collection and overall view of Fleetwood Mac's big comeback tour than the album version. With 22 songs, only four are new songs, and only two of them are weaker tracks. The opening number "The Chain" is a great opening with the line "Never break the chain," standing out strong. Some tracks such as "Little Lies", "Hold Me", "Monday Morning" and "Oh Diane" are not included, despite being hits, but overall, the set-list is very strong.

Following "The Chain", Nicks takes the stage with her iconic "Dreams" into McVie's "Everywhere". The band finds a good balance between the performing songwriters. Tracks such as "Gypsy", "Go Insane", "Gold Dust Woman", "Over My Head" and "Songbird" are only available on the DVD, so the DVD is the way to go. The DVD video in 1.33:1 aspect ratio, audio in Dolby Digital 5.1 and PCM stereo.

Production Quality: The overall production is very solid, and the staging of the show is very advanced for a live album. Dozens of cameras give it a very modern feel, and the close-ups of Nicks and Buckingham during Nick's emotional songs show that much thought was placed on the production. Buckingham, as usual, serves as producer and as usual gives the solid, clean production. Even when the UCLA Marching Band is introduced on the final few numbers ("Tusk" and "Don't Stop"), the sound quality and staging is stunning if not slightly over-the-top. But Fleetwood Mac has always been famed for their excess, and the production of the concert is no different.

Impression: Overall, Fleetwood Mac is back. Christine McVie would leave afterward, but it shows that both Buckingham and Nick's are fully capable of working efficiently together on Mac projects. This reunion would prove handy when "Say You Will" would be released a few years later, regrettably without Christine McVie. Having sold over 5-million copies in the US, it is the fifth best selling live album of all time there. There still was and always will be an audience for the Mac. It's worth your hard-earned cash to check out this band who suffered and triumphed to create an amazing work of art and an incredible concert.

[bluefox4000]

97....I was 12......my first glimpse of Mr. Buckingham....sigh. lol

Mick

[bombaysaffires]

Ultimate Guitar, February 25, 2011

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/dvd/fleetwood_mac/the_dance/index.html

The Dance Reviewed by: mattybou92, on february 25, 2011

Sound: In 1997, "The Dance" put the famed Fleetwood Mac back on the top of the US charts with mulit-platinum success. It had been a decade since the "Rumours" line-up would perform together, and the last time for Christine McVie. "The Dance" is a unique album in the Mac catalog for many reasons.

"The Dance" could have come about for many reasons. Fleetwood Mac was suffering heavily in the 90's with the departure of Buckingham and Nicks. Mick Fleetwood was facing financial difficulties and John McVie nearly died from alcohol abuse. The idea for a tour and live album with the original mid 70's line-up seemed lucrative for each member, naturally. The project came to fruition with Mick Fleetwood working on a Buckingham solo album that turned into much more. Nicks was contacted as well as the remaining members of Mac who all agreed to bring the chain together once more.

The album, as well as the tour was extremely successful. Indeed, Fleetwood Mac has still "got it". The sound is very clear, very pristine beginning with the opening "The Chain" from the album "Rumours". The band has never been better, going through their most famous hits and adding a few new tracks. However, these new tracks actually deter from the flow of the DVD. While the album "The Dance" contained 17 tracks, the DVD contains 22, making the new songs more spread out. However, Stevie's contribution, "Sweet Girl" and McVie's "Temporary One" don't really make as strong of an impression as Buckingham's lovely "Bleed to Love Her."

Buckingham is at top form on the tour. An underrated guitarist, his skill level is simply stunning on "Big Love", a song quite different from the album version that appears on "Tango in the Night". Buckingham evens makes note of the fact, mentioning how songs, like people constantly grow and change. He has matured and changed since his time with Mac, and it is very evident with his treatment of Stevie on her songs.

Stevie manages to ride off the success of the Dixie Chicks when she performs "Landslide" to great acclaim. Her voice however, like Buckingham's, has lost some of its range. "Rhiannon" has all the magic of the Fleetwood-McVie rhythm section, but suffers with her limited range. A new intro is added however, that shows that the Mac is always evolving. "Silver Springs" is her other standout and was the other single released from the album with "Landslide". "Sliver Springs" was originally released as a B-side to "Go Your Own Way" back in the "Rumours"- era. It's a beautiful song that finally gets it's due.

Christine McVie makes a very sweet performance of her hits "Everywhere", "Over My Head" and "Say You Love Me". I still find it odd that "Little Lies" was not included, but the band has so many hits, it must have been difficult to include all of them.

Content: The DVD is a better collection and overall view of Fleetwood Mac's big comeback tour than the album version. With 22 songs, only four are new songs, and only two of them are weaker tracks. The opening number "The Chain" is a great opening with the line "Never break the chain," standing out strong. Some tracks such as "Little Lies", "Hold Me", "Monday Morning" and "Oh Diane" are not included, despite being hits, but overall, the set-list is very strong.

Following "The Chain", Nicks takes the stage with her iconic "Dreams" into McVie's "Everywhere". The band finds a good balance between the performing songwriters. Tracks such as "Gypsy", "Go Insane", "Gold Dust Woman", "Over My Head" and "Songbird" are only available on the DVD, so the DVD is the way to go. The DVD video in 1.33:1 aspect ratio, audio in Dolby Digital 5.1 and PCM stereo.

Production Quality: The overall production is very solid, and the staging of the show is very advanced for a live album. Dozens of cameras give it a very modern feel, and the close-ups of Nicks and Buckingham during Nick's emotional songs show that much thought was placed on the production. Buckingham, as usual, serves as producer and as usual gives the solid, clean production. Even when the UCLA Marching Band is introduced on the final few numbers ("Tusk" and "Don't Stop"), the sound quality and staging is stunning if not slightly over-the-top. But Fleetwood Mac has always been famed for their excess, and the production of the concert is no different.

Impression: Overall, Fleetwood Mac is back. Christine McVie would leave afterward, but it shows that both Buckingham and Nick's are fully capable of working efficiently together on Mac projects. This reunion would prove handy when "Say You Will" would be released a few years later, regrettably without Christine McVie. Having sold over 5-million copies in the US, it is the fifth best selling live album of all time there. There still was and always will be an audience for the Mac. It's worth your hard-earned cash to check out this band who suffered and triumphed to create an amazing work of art and an incredible concert.

Actually, the piano intro to Rhiannon wasn't new at all...Stevie started performing it that way on the Bella Donna tour in '81 and continued to do it that way through all her solo tours....so it may have been new at a Mac show, but it was almost 20 yrs old by the Dance

[FierySequences]

Hi all, as you know I am new here at the Ledge, but not new to the Mac. Loved them for years, anyway I have some unanswered Q's about the “Dance” that I thought some of you might have had, as well. This is off topic to the OP, so I apologize in advance. And to answer the OP's Q: Yes, I would be standing, hooting and cheering them all the way, and possibly shouting out songs that would earn me evil glares from Stevie, SOTM anyone? However, about the Dance, I ponder these:

a) Why was the video and tour called “The Dance” and not “The Bridge” after Christine's “Temporary One” number? Just seemed more appropriate to me.
b) “My Little Demon” is prob one of my favorite songs from this era, and could have been a hit single....why Landslide as a single and not this song?
c) On that note, did anyone else notice the cold, hateful look Stevie was giving LB during the first cords and versus of MLD?
d) Why wasn't Little Lies or Hold Me performed? Or even Isn't It Midnight, Brown Eyes, Think About Me...etc?

That's about all, I really have no complaints about this awesome DVD and tour....only wish they could/would have included Stand Back, World Turning, Twisted....and possibly Why?

Edit: Sorry, I just now realized this was an old thread that I bumped....still I Love the Dance :/

[michelej1]

a) Why was the video and tour called “The Dance” and not “The Bridge” after Christine's “Temporary One” number? Just seemed more appropriate to me.


They did it after Henri Matisse's mural, La Danse and tried to make their own little circle the way they were positioned on the cover, as in the painting.

Michele

[MusicInferno]

Sorry for digging this out, but I couldn't find another, more recent thread about this.

I just re-watched this and when "Silver Springs" starts, the camera shows Christine playing the keys and if I'm not totally mistaken, she plays something completely different. Is that possible? Or is her keyboard modified to make it easier? Seemed weird to me. :)

[David]

Sorry for digging this out, but I couldn't find another, more recent thread about this.

I just re-watched this and when "Silver Springs" starts, the camera shows Christine playing the keys and if I'm not totally mistaken, she plays something completely different. Is that possible? Or is her keyboard modified to make it easier? Seemed weird to me. :)

Do you mean that the video doesn't appear to sync with the audio?

I notice that phenomenon a lot in many musical concert films. You hear a piano chord, and then a second or two later you see the pianist play the chord. I don't know what it is.

[UndoingTheLaces]

Sorry for digging this out, but I couldn't find another, more recent thread about this.

I just re-watched this and when "Silver Springs" starts, the camera shows Christine playing the keys and if I'm not totally mistaken, she plays something completely different. Is that possible? Or is her keyboard modified to make it easier? Seemed weird to me. :)

When a band performs live on a TV show the cameras are all shooting at once and it's up to the person in the control room to switch back and fourth between cameras to get the best shots for the audience watching at home. When a band is filmed live for the purposes of editing together a performance for a concert video the cameras shoot from many different angles and all the parts are edited together later. When it comes time for the editors to put it all together they don't run all the footage at once and choose from the best angles, like on TV, they usually put together all the shots that show the singers singing so they can sync up the lips to the words and some of the musicians doing things that match up with certain parts of the song, but the rest is just a matter of putting things that look good visually together at the right places so the performance looks good. A lot of what you are actually seeing was probably not actually done at that point in the song but once it's all edited together it looks good so what does it matter. If you watch the performance of Eyes of the World on the Mirage concert video you'll notice the Whoa Whoa Whoa chorus is exactly the same both times. Chances are when they shot the performance they didn't have enough good shots of both choruses so they ran the footage from one both times. So your seeing Christine hitting the wrong keys just means they were using footage from a different part of the song and to make the whole picture look good. Sometimes you have to sacrifice one thing for the other so they were probably hoping that nobody noticed her hands because she looked so good in that shot otherwise.

[teedeerocks]

Hi all, as you know I am new here at the Ledge, but not new to the Mac. Loved them for years, anyway I have some unanswered Q's about the “Dance” that I thought some of you might have had, as well. This is off topic to the OP, so I apologize in advance. And to answer the OP's Q: Yes, I would be standing, hooting and cheering them all the way, and possibly shouting out songs that would earn me evil glares from Stevie, SOTM anyone? However, about the Dance, I ponder these:

a) Why was the video and tour called “The Dance” and not “The Bridge” after Christine's “Temporary One” number? Just seemed more appropriate to me.
b) “My Little Demon” is prob one of my favorite songs from this era, and could have been a hit single....why Landslide as a single and not this song?
c) On that note, did anyone else notice the cold, hateful look Stevie was giving LB during the first cords and versus of MLD?
d) Why wasn't Little Lies or Hold Me performed? Or even Isn't It Midnight, Brown Eyes, Think About Me...etc?

That's about all, I really have no complaints about this awesome DVD and tour....only wish they could/would have included Stand Back, World Turning, Twisted....and possibly Why?

Edit: Sorry, I just now realized this was an old thread that I bumped....still I Love the Dance :/

Yes! I posted this very observation on some thread on this board.Her cold,not-pleased looks started during his MLD intro speech and continued into certain parts of the song.Also, during his intro,Stevie does that kinda intimidating walk towards him while she glares at him(almost through him).So no,Fiery Sequences,you are not alone!Check the other above mentioned parts out!Those words must have some deep-rooted meaning between S & L.Just what we need - more baggage!:nod:

[MusicInferno]

When a band performs live on a TV show the cameras are all shooting at once and it's up to the person in the control room to switch back and fourth between cameras to get the best shots for the audience watching at home. When a band is filmed live for the purposes of editing together a performance for a concert video the cameras shoot from many different angles and all the parts are edited together later. When it comes time for the editors to put it all together they don't run all the footage at once and choose from the best angles, like on TV, they usually put together all the shots that show the singers singing so they can sync up the lips to the words and some of the musicians doing things that match up with certain parts of the song, but the rest is just a matter of putting things that look good visually together at the right places so the performance looks good. A lot of what you are actually seeing was probably not actually done at that point in the song but once it's all edited together it looks good so what does it matter. If you watch the performance of Eyes of the World on the Mirage concert video you'll notice the Whoa Whoa Whoa chorus is exactly the same both times. Chances are when they shot the performance they didn't have enough good shots of both choruses so they ran the footage from one both times. So your seeing Christine hitting the wrong keys just means they were using footage from a different part of the song and to make the whole picture look good. Sometimes you have to sacrifice one thing for the other so they were probably hoping that nobody noticed her hands because she looked so good in that shot otherwise.

Thank you so much for your long answer. I understand what you're saying and it seems to be a comprehensible decision.
There's a few more scenes where it doesn't flow properly. Towards the end of "Say You Love Me" you can clearly see a string snapping while Lindsey plays (it's even a close-up during that moment) and when the frame changes, it's back there again.
There's also a moment where Chris changes positions on stage for a few seconds. That woman can move quickly! :D

[Josh2003]

The one that has always bothered me was right after "Landslide" but before Stevie says "Thank you, Lindsey," the shot, from behind, shows Lindsey saying something into the mic and gesturing toward Stevie. Was this audio cut completely, or was this just a shot taken from another part of the show?

The world may never know...

[UndoingTheLaces]

Thank you so much for your long answer. I understand what you're saying and it seems to be a comprehensible decision.
There's a few more scenes where it doesn't flow properly. Towards the end of "Say You Love Me" you can clearly see a string snapping while Lindsey plays (it's even a close-up during that moment) and when the frame changes, it's back there again.
There's also a moment where Chris changes positions on stage for a few seconds. That woman can move quickly! :D

You're welcome. They may have shot some of the songs more than once or have shot more than one night. That way they get more than enough footage. They just need to make sure the performers are wearing the exact same outfits both nights or it would look really odd. Like in Stevie's Red Rocks video where she shot all the closeups at a totally different time and her hair goes from being totally curly to straight bangs and back over and over again.

Another clip from the Mirage video, during Sisters of the Moon, there's a glaring edit after the bridge where in one shot Stevie's hair is matted down on her forehead with sweat but in another shot it's nicely coiffed.

[michelej1]

You're welcome. They may have shot some of the songs more than once or have shot more than one night. That way they get more than enough footage. They just need to make sure the performers are wearing the exact same outfits both nights or it would look really odd. Like in Stevie's Red Rocks video where she shot all the closeups at a totally different time and her hair goes from being totally curly to straight bangs and back over and over again.



Yes, they definitely shot 2 nights. I don't know if they did more than one take of any of the songs, though. The way Stevie talked about Silver Springs, though, I got the impression they just did one version of it each of the 2 nights.

Now, for Soundstage, they would do the song more than once, sometimes. I am not sure, but I think they did more than one take of songs for Live in Boston as well.

Michele

[Andyleo]

Anyone else notice that Chris can be heard counting in for Silver Springs, it's either the PCM Stereo, or the 5.1 Surround, but not on the other audio track? I always found that odd... :shocked:

[MusicInferno]

Anyone else notice that Chris can be heard counting in for Silver Springs, it's either the PCM Stereo, or the 5.1 Surround, but not on the other audio track? I always found that odd... :shocked:

Yes, you can hear her when you listen to the PCM Stereo, but it's not there in 5.1:nod:

[Villavic]

Happy Birthday The Dance release.

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[FuzzyPlum]

Happy birthday to my pet gecko…Spot.
Happy 5th birthday, dude : )

[HomerMcvie]

Happy birthday to my pet gecko…Spot.
Happy 5th birthday, dude : )

Live long and prosper, Spot and THEE RESSURECTOR!

[jbrownsjr]

Happy birthday to my pet gecko…Spot.
Happy 5th birthday, dude : )

Gecko or Garbo? hahaha

[WalkAThinLine.]

Within less than two years, the band went from having an album completely missing the Billboard 200 to a debut at number one. That's quite the turnaround. The problem is that the band failed to capitalize on this by waiting several years before beginning work on a studio album. They were still able to coast off some of their residual success from The Dance, but the pop music ecosystem had changed significantly from 1997 to 2003.

The Dance would essentially serve as a template for future Fleetwood Mac tours, with only minor variations depending on the circumstances. The acoustic rendition of "Big Love" would remain a staple in the setlist from that point onwards, "Landslide" would be a key fixture in the acoustic portion of the setlist, and "I'm So Afraid" would be another vehicle for Lindsey's guitar skills. There are still aspects of The Dance Tour that are still unique, including the addition of four new tracks, the banjo-infused rendition of "Say You Love Me", the incorporation of the USC Marching Band on "Don't Stop", and even a cover of "The Farmer's Daughter" in the setlist (but not the album).

Most songs from that album have at least one memorable attribute, perhaps with the exception of "You Make Loving Fun" and "Go Your Own Way", which while competent, sound like the band is simply going through the motions. This is even more apparent with their rendition of "Over My Head", which did not even make the album. It's overall a well-balanced album that I have little complaints about. The new material is pleasant and fits in well with the "classic hits". The lack of representation from Mirage on the album is somewhat glaring; the band generally avoids this material with the exception of "Gypsy" and "Eyes of the World". However, the rendition of "Gypsy" found on video version suffers from a shaky vocal performance from Nicks, so perhaps it was for the best that it was omitted.

[Macfan4life]

Within less than two years, the band went from having an album completely missing the Billboard 200 to a debut at number one. That's quite the turnaround. The problem is that the band failed to capitalize on this by waiting several years before beginning work on a studio album. They were still able to coast off some of their residual success from The Dance, but the pop music ecosystem had changed significantly from 1997 to 2003.

The Dance would essentially serve as a template for future Fleetwood Mac tours, with only minor variations depending on the circumstances. The acoustic rendition of "Big Love" would remain a staple in the setlist from that point onwards, "Landslide" would be a key fixture in the acoustic portion of the setlist, and "I'm So Afraid" would be another vehicle for Lindsey's guitar skills. There are still aspects of The Dance Tour that are still unique, including the addition of four new tracks, the banjo-infused rendition of "Say You Love Me", the incorporation of the USC Marching Band on "Don't Stop", and even a cover of "The Farmer's Daughter" in the setlist (but not the album).

Most songs from that album have at least one memorable attribute, perhaps with the exception of "You Make Loving Fun" and "Go Your Own Way", which while competent, sound like the band is simply going through the motions. This is even more apparent with their rendition of "Over My Head", which did not even make the album. It's overall a well-balanced album that I have little complaints about. The new material is pleasant and fits in well with the "classic hits". The lack of representation from Mirage on the album is somewhat glaring; the band generally avoids this material with the exception of "Gypsy" and "Eyes of the World". However, the rendition of "Gypsy" found on video version suffers from a shaky vocal performance from Nicks, so perhaps it was for the best that it was omitted.
^^^^ THIS ^^^^^
very well said

The Dance was a carbon copy of The Eagle's Hell Freezes Over. It was inspired by managers and concert promoters where the bands were promised boatloads of money. Both albums went to #1 and sold about 9 million copies. Both were promoted before the album release by a VHS/Laser Disk show broadcast on MTV. The Dance stayed at #1 longer and sold faster than Hell Freezes Over but in the end they sold almost the same amount of units. In 1994 the United States was coming out of a recession which probably hurt the Eagles some while in 1997 the economy was great.
One big difference that I tip my hat to the Eagles for actually going into the studio for their new songs. The songs charted too.
Just imagine if the reunion was more organic for creative reasons and the band recorded in 1995 instead of Time and released a studio album in 1996 followed by the live album The Dance and tour in 1997. Dream on silly dreamer.
While I loved The Dance and I was there waiting in line for tickets I found much of the performances wooden and uninspiring. Don't get me wrong, I had to pinch myself that I was seeing Fleetwood Mac live again. I must of watched the MTV special a million times before the concert and the band said the same things to the audience they did on the special. It just seemed so programmed. I could sense Chris was not happy to be there either. The Dance is a mixed bag for me. I never play that album. I much prefer the 1980 Live album or the 1982 Mirage concert.

Anyone remember SPECS music? It was a record store chain here in Florida. I went the morning the tickets went on sale and there was a mob of people outside so they gave people numbers and there was a lottery drawing to sequence the order to get in line. I was one of the lucky ones and got in relatively early and was able to secure tickets inside the Ampitheater. Then it was all lawn seats. It was sold out like all the other shows and had about 20,000 people in West Palm Beach. Donald Trump was in the second row. They had a very late sound check. The paper reported the next day that Stevie showed up really late to sound check. I was in line at the gate when the soundcheck started and the band played Dreams. I was in fear of a stampede and the Who concert in Cincy was rushing in my head where there was a stampede based on music coming from the arena and people died. Stevie could have indirectly killed us all. Seriously, who does a soundcheck at an outdoor show while 10,000 people are at the gate at 6:00 to get inside. Not smart at all. Luckily Mac fans were older people and did not overreact. I was still a spring chicken in my 20s ;)
Lindsey had to be rushed to the hospital after this show because one of his guitar strings broke and cut his finger or hand during GYOW. I woke up the next day and heard about it on the news. The hospital he went to was right up the street from my apartment.

[Villavic]

The Dance was a carbon copy of The Eagle's Hell Freezes Over.

I agree it was a copy of HFO. It was even in the same theater at Warner Studios, wasn’t it? I remember some radios called the 90s the Reunions Decade. Although a 10 years absence or a 14 years vacation don't seem like much today.

My memories of The Ledge in 1997 are that everybody was happy here. Yes me too had to pinch myself that I was seeing Fleetwood Mac together again. I remember it was a Sunday morning (I had a hangover I confess) I turned on the TV and saw a preview of Silver Springs and confirmed the rumour I read in The Ledge was true). Then I watched the whole concert. The reviews of the show, the performance were mostly positive here, probably because of the excitement everybody wanted to see just the good things. Ledgies shared their happiness. It was common to read posts finishing with Isn’t that weird? Followed by you know what.

Sure there were some immediate critics, but I can’t remember. Except one. Some ledgies were disappointed with Rhiannon, due to the lack of energy she used to put into her performance in the past. I thought Well, she is 48 now, she can’t sing it the way she did in the late 70s. Or if she can, she is taking care of her voice. Good decision, I thought.

Then the CD was released. My first complain was it wasn’t complete. I had to buy the CD singles to complete the setlist. But of course it wasn’t the same. And I was one of the upset ledgies that complained about the songs starting after the spoken intros. Bleed to, My Little Demon, Everywhere, Sweet Girl, etc. All those intros were at the end of the previous song. Well, that’s a problem with many concert CDs, not only with Mac’s.

Then I got the DVD. Where the hell is Christine counting previous to Silver Springs in the 5.1 side? Forget it. Play the PCM Stereo if you want to listen it. Absurd.

It was my first opportunity to see them live. Nov 97 at MSG. Thanksgiving. For me it was perfect. But since it was my first time, I can't fairly compare the experience to previous tours.

I think that the main events that overshadowed The Dance came later. Christine farewell, the lack of new material until 2003, and all the story we already know. I said Ok, The Dance was a celebration about they being together, singing the hits we all want to hear. And now what? Mmm… the chirping of the cricket.

Anyway The Dance will always be one of the reasons 1997 was a great year for me.

[BLY]

I remember that as the good old days of the Ledge back in 1997 also. I was excited about the reunion show and album. All my friends/family/ co workers that knew I was always a big MAC fan all had to reach out and tell me how great they were and how Lindsey was an unbelievable guitar player. I was like….HELLO! The big deal for me was Silver Springs. Always one of my favorite songs from the day I heard it on the b side of GYOW. I always get goosebumps at the end of the song and the first time I heard and saw it live I was so amazed and pleased. I saw the show live in Philadelphia and the icing on the cake for me was doing The Farmers Daughter at the close of the show.

[Macfan4life]

I agree it was a copy of HFO. It was even in the same theater at Warner Studios, wasn’t it? I remember some radios called the 90s the Reunions Decade. Although a 10 years absence or a 14 years vacation don't seem like much today.

My memories of The Ledge in 1997 are that everybody was happy here. Yes me too had to pinch myself that I was seeing Fleetwood Mac together again. I remember it was a Sunday morning (I had a hangover I confess) I turned on the TV and saw a preview of Silver Springs and confirmed the rumour I read in The Ledge was true). Then I watched the whole concert. The reviews of the show, the performance were mostly positive here, probably because of the excitement everybody wanted to see just the good things. Ledgies shared their happiness. It was common to read posts finishing with Isn’t that weird? Followed by you know what.

Sure there were some immediate critics, but I can’t remember. Except one. Some ledgies were disappointed with Rhiannon, due to the lack of energy she used to put into her performance in the past. I thought Well, she is 48 now, she can’t sing it the way she did in the late 70s. Or if she can, she is taking care of her voice. Good decision, I thought.

Then the CD was released. My first complain was it wasn’t complete. I had to buy the CD singles to complete the setlist. But of course it wasn’t the same. And I was one of the upset ledgies that complained about the songs starting after the spoken intros. Bleed to, My Little Demon, Everywhere, Sweet Girl, etc. All those intros were at the end of the previous song. Well, that’s a problem with many concert CDs, not only with Mac’s.

Then I got the DVD. Where the hell is Christine counting previous to Silver Springs in the 5.1 side? Forget it. Play the PCM Stereo if you want to listen it. Absurd.

It was my first opportunity to see them live. Nov 97 at MSG. Thanksgiving. For me it was perfect. But since it was my first time, I can't fairly compare the experience to previous tours.

I think that the main events that overshadowed The Dance came later. Christine farewell, the lack of new material until 2003, and all the story we already know. I said Ok, The Dance was a celebration about they being together, singing the hits we all want to hear. And now what? Mmm… the chirping of the cricket.

Anyway The Dance will always be one of the reasons 1997 was a great year for me.
It was a great time to have the Mac back. Another similarity between Hell Freezes Over and The Dance was the solo material. Henley did far more but just imagine some other Mac songs could have been included instead of a very long slow Go Insane and Stand Back. If you scrap Not That Funny too there could have been 4 more songs. I am in the minority that does not care for Farmers Daughter nor the banjo version of Say You Love Me. We did get a polished Everywhere instead of the I WANNA BE WIH YOU Stevieism :lol:

[Villavic]

just imagine some other Mac songs could have been included instead of a very long slow Go Insane and Stand Back.

I wasn't crazy about Go Insane either. So why did I say the concert was perfect? It was the right time to go to the MSG bar to get my champagne. :lol:

[HomerMcvie]

I wasn't crazy about Go Insane either. So why did I say the concert was perfect? It was the right time to go to the MSG bar to get my champagne. :lol:

Careful, they'll label you as an alcoholic! :lol:

[AnthonyMI]

I agree it was a copy of HFO. It was even in the same theater at Warner Studios, wasn’t it? I remember some radios called the 90s the Reunions Decade. Although a 10 years absence or a 14 years vacation don't seem like much today.

My memories of The Ledge in 1997 are that everybody was happy here. Yes me too had to pinch myself that I was seeing Fleetwood Mac together again. I remember it was a Sunday morning (I had a hangover I confess) I turned on the TV and saw a preview of Silver Springs and confirmed the rumour I read in The Ledge was true). Then I watched the whole concert. The reviews of the show, the performance were mostly positive here, probably because of the excitement everybody wanted to see just the good things. Ledgies shared their happiness. It was common to read posts finishing with Isn’t that weird? Followed by you know what.

Sure there were some immediate critics, but I can’t remember. Except one. Some ledgies were disappointed with Rhiannon, due to the lack of energy she used to put into her performance in the past. I thought Well, she is 48 now, she can’t sing it the way she did in the late 70s. Or if she can, she is taking care of her voice. Good decision, I thought.

Then the CD was released. My first complain was it wasn’t complete. I had to buy the CD singles to complete the setlist. But of course it wasn’t the same. And I was one of the upset ledgies that complained about the songs starting after the spoken intros. Bleed to, My Little Demon, Everywhere, Sweet Girl, etc. All those intros were at the end of the previous song. Well, that’s a problem with many concert CDs, not only with Mac’s.

Then I got the DVD. Where the hell is Christine counting previous to Silver Springs in the 5.1 side? Forget it. Play the PCM Stereo if you want to listen it. Absurd.

It was my first opportunity to see them live. Nov 97 at MSG. Thanksgiving. For me it was perfect. But since it was my first time, I can't fairly compare the experience to previous tours.

I think that the main events that overshadowed The Dance came later. Christine farewell, the lack of new material until 2003, and all the story we already know. I said Ok, The Dance was a celebration about they being together, singing the hits we all want to hear. And now what? Mmm… the chirping of the cricket.

Anyway The Dance will always be one of the reasons 1997 was a great year for me.

I remember the first time i heard Silver Springs on the radio I thought it was Leanne Rimes. Remember they didn't have screens on cars then and unless the DJ told you who that just was you just had to guess. I remember thinking to myself "wow, Leanne sure aged poorly in the last year!" Then about a month or two later I bought the Fleewood Mac greatest hits and became a Fan, soon after that I got The Dance and by Fall of that year I was totally a Ledgie.

and yeah I forgot about He Who Shall Not Be Named and the Black Ledge. (fun fact, the various BBS systems had color codes. Stevie was Pink, LB was Blue and I forgot the Main one color, but the Black Ledge used the same Perl BBS system (was it Perl?) and the Black Ledge was created on another service and the He Who Shall Not Be Named crowd went there to talk about everyone else behind their back. Someone shared the link and EVERYONE FINDS OUT. Eww. He was a pill. That was my first exposure to Cyberbullying as a 17 year old kid. What Adult makes fun of people for being overweight online, in 1997? Im not talking LIZZO here. I am talking another fan that is just here trying to have friends and talk about Fleetwood Mac. I don't think the term had been invented yet, but there were a few other younger Ledgies that were also victims of insults and impersonations, him and his "Groupies". I stuck around till early 2000s and now only periodically check in when there is something new the band is offering.

[jbrownsjr]

Go Insane (live) was one of my favorite parts of the show.

Still wish Big Love was done as a band, however.


woooooooooooooooo haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa whooooooooooooooooooooo haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa whoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

[HomerMcvie]

Go Insane (live) was one of my favorite parts of the show.

Still wish Big Love was done as a band, however.


woooooooooooooooo haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa whooooooooooooooooooooo haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa whoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

Honey, I think you're confusing Go Insane with Not That Funny.

At your age though, it's an easy mistake to make. :woohoo:

[Villavic]

Honey, I think you're confusing Go Insane with Not That Funny.

At your age though, it's an easy mistake to make. :woohoo:

I think he meant Big Love.

[HomerMcvie]

I think he meant Big Love.

I still have PTSD over NTF from 1982!

[Villavic]

I still have PTSD over NTF from 1982!

I had PTSD over many songs thay were played too much on the radio, but watching 1982 was something I do enjoy. Just with wine, I must say.

[jbrownsjr]

Honey, I think you're confusing Go Insane with Not That Funny.

At your age though, it's an easy mistake to make. :woohoo:

Listen to the end of Big Love on the Dance. I'm pretty sure you'll stand (or sit because you're old now) corrected.

[HomerMcvie]

I had PTSD over many songs thay were played too much on the radio, but watching 1982 was something I do enjoy. Just with wine, I must say.

Mirage live is a good as it gets...

MINUS NTF!

[HomerMcvie]

Listen to the end of Big Love on the Dance. I'm pretty sure you'll stand (or sit because you're old now) corrected.

Oh god, The Dance? I rarely watch it, because I can't stand all the overdubs. But when I do, I watch it from the comfort of my electric assist lift Lazy Boy.

[Villavic]

The Dance reached number one this week.

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